Speaker 1: What's up. It's sauce on the side. I'm Gandhi and
Speaker 1: today we have an interesting episode ahead. But before we
Speaker 1: get to.
Speaker 2: That, Hello Andrew, Oh, Hello Gandhi.
Speaker 1: How are you? I'm great?
Speaker 2: How are you great?
Speaker 1: Why do you sound so happy? You sounded very menacing
Speaker 1: to start? What do you mean, hello, Gandhi?
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm not trying to be menacing. It just iss
Speaker 2: for you.
Speaker 1: Not a good look.
Speaker 2: So who do you have on today?
Speaker 1: Today? I have the Captain aka Kyle Creek. You might
Speaker 1: know him on Instagram as are you ready s g
Speaker 1: R st K. I still haven't figured out what that means,
Speaker 1: and I hope I remember to ask him. But he's
Speaker 1: a good time. He has a lot of stuff to say,
Speaker 1: a lot of big thoughts, and he's just kind of
Speaker 1: like a fun guy. So I said, we just get
Speaker 1: to it.
Speaker 2: Love that.
Speaker 1: Are we still going by the Captain?
Speaker 3: I mean a lot of people know me by it,
Speaker 3: so it's kind of stuck. But I don't really use
Speaker 3: it that much anymore. I prefer people call me Kyle.
Speaker 3: I mean, let's be honest, it's not the worst nickname.
Speaker 1: You also are an author. You have a lot of books.
Speaker 3: Yeah, writer, I don't consider myself an author. I consider
Speaker 3: myself a writer. I think the way I explain to
Speaker 3: people's writers write about the world as it is, and
Speaker 3: authors create worlds, and so until I do a novel,
Speaker 3: I don't consider myself an author. And it's kind of
Speaker 3: my way of just I don't know, pain and respect
Speaker 3: to people that have done that, because it is so
Speaker 3: difficult to write that style of the book.
Speaker 1: Do you think you'll ever do that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's kind of where I'm going now with my career.
Speaker 3: And we were just talking before this. I mean, my
Speaker 3: goal for the longest time has been to leave social media.
Speaker 3: I mean I used to tell people back in probably
Speaker 3: twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, when I was first starting to
Speaker 3: get some notoriety online, I would tell people my goal
Speaker 3: is to write a book a year and be left
Speaker 3: the fuck alone. I'm at the point now where I
Speaker 3: do use social media substantially less. I mean, I took
Speaker 3: it off my phone in January of this year. I
Speaker 3: don't even have it on my phone anymore. I haven't
Speaker 3: been active on it for months, and it's been nice.
Speaker 3: Why tired of it unfulfilling for the most part, and
Speaker 3: I I kind of feel like social media's became a
Speaker 3: lot more of a healthscape in the past few years.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think social media used to be pretty
Speaker 3: fun for me. I used to enjoy it. I thought
Speaker 3: it was fairly challenging, and I liked trying to craft
Speaker 3: messages that resonated but also you know, would would get shared.
Speaker 3: I liked it. I thought it was you know, kind
Speaker 3: of it's almost like a game at times. And once
Speaker 3: they started putting algorithms in place and they started fucking
Speaker 3: with people's reach, it just it became too mechanical for me,
Speaker 3: you know, Rather than start doing like reels and start
Speaker 3: doing like these stupid, choppy short videos that everyone's doing
Speaker 3: now to get attention, that's just it's not me and
Speaker 3: I can't bring myself to do it. So I'd rather
Speaker 3: just kind of, you know, disappear into the ether than
Speaker 3: you know, become that person.
Speaker 1: Well, you're lucky you have something to fall back on,
Speaker 1: which it's not even a fallback. You started as a writer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I have a day job. That's pretty
Speaker 3: much been my whole career as an adult. Wasn't until
Speaker 3: I got into advertising that I made good money as
Speaker 3: a writer and on the side I didn't have much
Speaker 3: of a social following, but I started writing a lot
Speaker 3: of jokes that my clients would kind of say no
Speaker 3: to because I was doing a lot of TV work
Speaker 3: at the time, and I thought the jokes were good
Speaker 3: enough to see the light of day, so I started
Speaker 3: tweeting them instead, and they just kind of took off
Speaker 3: and snowballed from there, and then I had this catch
Speaker 3: persona was just me observing life and writing about it
Speaker 3: the way I saw it and the way I was
Speaker 3: experiencing it outside of my professional career, And that's really
Speaker 3: what became, you know, the social media following that I have.
Speaker 1: Now, how do you feel about the feedback that you
Speaker 1: get from random people? Because that's actually for me, one
Speaker 1: of the reasons I enjoyed following you is because you
Speaker 1: say a lot of the things that I think, at
Speaker 1: least I was thinking, and I don't necessarily know how
Speaker 1: to craft it, and I would just retweet or repost
Speaker 1: some of the things you said. But I know, based
Speaker 1: on me reposting what people would respond to. How do
Speaker 1: you navigate that and does it bother you or do
Speaker 1: you just laugh?
Speaker 3: I used to try and do it intentionally. I used
Speaker 3: to tell my frist starter. I used to Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 3: that's why I have instigator on my profile. I used
Speaker 3: to tell my friends, I know I have a good
Speaker 3: post when I lose more followers and I gain because
Speaker 3: it hits a nerve. And then at some point I know,
Speaker 3: you know, people will come back on the back end.
Speaker 3: But I've had several people and follow me over the
Speaker 3: years and then write me apologies and like, I don't know,
Speaker 3: I don't know theyn follow me. I don't pay attention
Speaker 3: that closely. But I'll have someone write me and say,
Speaker 3: you know I hadn't followed you two years ago because
Speaker 3: it's something you said, And I just want to say
Speaker 3: I came back and I thought about it, and you
Speaker 3: were right. You want people to feel something. You want
Speaker 3: people to laugh, you want people to be scared, you
Speaker 3: want people to cry, like that's your goal as a writer.
Speaker 3: And so I always figured if I elicited enough emotion
Speaker 3: that someone felt like they had to unfollow me, that
Speaker 3: was successful.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I must be so successful.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: First of all, who is the majority of your audience
Speaker 1: when you'll hear insights? What does that breakdown?
Speaker 3: I think it's like sixty forty primarily females. Oh okay,
Speaker 3: I mean I used to rag on like dating practices.
Speaker 3: That was kind of like my thing is. I would
Speaker 3: just talk shit on all the dumb stuff people do dating.
Speaker 3: I was always bashing on douchebags and you know, shit
Speaker 3: that i'd done myself when I was younger, stuff I
Speaker 3: still saw my friends doing, and so I was always
Speaker 3: kind of bashing that. And I think that's also why
Speaker 3: I gained, you know, a little bit of a female following.
Speaker 1: Do you ever look back anything you've posted in cringe
Speaker 1: a little bit.
Speaker 3: All the time. I read my old books, Like people
Speaker 3: will bring like my quote me books to me to
Speaker 3: sign a book event, and I'll flip through them sometimes
Speaker 3: and I'll read stuff I wrote and I'll be like, oh,
Speaker 3: fuck that guy.
Speaker 1: And quote so they're quoting you.
Speaker 3: I I think it's uh. I think if you don't
Speaker 3: look back on your past self and cringe a little bit,
Speaker 3: it's a sign that you're not growing as a person.
Speaker 3: Like I think everybody I know that is a good person,
Speaker 3: or everyone I know that's an interesting person looks back
Speaker 3: on their past self and doesn't like certain aspects of
Speaker 3: who they were, And it's unavoidable, and I think that's
Speaker 3: what prevents a lot of people from pursuing something they enjoy.
Speaker 3: I mean, they're too afraid of criticism, they're too afraid
Speaker 3: of regret, and so they just go through the motions.
Speaker 3: In ten years now, they look back in their life
Speaker 3: and yeah, they don't regret anything, but also they haven't
Speaker 3: done anything. And I think, you know, the fear of
Speaker 3: being criticized online is just it destroys people's ability to create.
Speaker 3: It destroys people's ability to live, you know. It influences
Speaker 3: people to break up with people they shouldn't break up with,
Speaker 3: Like your friends get in your ears, or random straight
Speaker 3: are talking to you about your relationship. You'll make choices
Speaker 3: to placate an audience that honestly doesn't give a fuck
Speaker 3: about you. I would love to see social media kind
Speaker 3: of just fall off in our society. I actually think
Speaker 3: it's been as much as it's helped my career and
Speaker 3: someone who really has benefited from social media, I do
Speaker 3: feel it's been a net negative for society as a whole,
Speaker 3: oh for sure. And I think we would all be
Speaker 3: a lot happier without it.
Speaker 1: People are always talking shit that are not in the arena.
Speaker 1: They're in the seats watching you, and they're telling you
Speaker 1: how you need to curate your content specifically for them,
Speaker 1: which strives me insane, and I try, I try really
Speaker 1: hard not to let that bother me. Every now and
Speaker 1: then it dings me and I get annoyed. But for you,
Speaker 1: having such a big following, has it ever affected you
Speaker 1: in your mental health at all?
Speaker 3: Yeah? It has, Okay, I mean there is times when
Speaker 3: it gets to you, and there is times when I think.
Speaker 3: I think what's gotten to me the most is when
Speaker 3: I feel like I've lost touch or like sometimes I'll
Speaker 3: look back and be like, oh, I used to write
Speaker 3: better than I do now, and that'll create a whole
Speaker 3: bunch of insecurity. And then if I'm in that state
Speaker 3: of insecurity and I get on and read too many
Speaker 3: negative comments, when I'm in that state, they could be
Speaker 3: pretty devastating and derail means. So, I mean, I was
Speaker 3: suicidal for a while when it was really really bad.
Speaker 1: So like, at the height of things going well for
Speaker 1: you and your podcast, I.
Speaker 3: Literally got my first major book deal and thirty days later.
Speaker 3: It is probably when I was at like my peak
Speaker 3: suicidal ideation. Wow, and I had you know what I'd
Speaker 3: always worked for, and it was because I just didn't
Speaker 3: have myself like I you know, the book deal was
Speaker 3: associated with the Captain. The book deal was for the Captain,
Speaker 3: and so it just like I just didn't like myself.
Speaker 3: I didn't like who I become. And It's part of
Speaker 3: what's so refreshing now about not using social media is
Speaker 3: I actually, for the first time feel like I'm making
Speaker 3: money and I'm making a living again, as as myself
Speaker 3: and not having to be something I'm not. You know,
Speaker 3: I had to really kind of adopt that post in
Speaker 3: ghost philosophy where you just post and to leave. But
Speaker 3: then I feel guilt because it's like, oh, people are
Speaker 3: taking time to write these meaningful comments and I should
Speaker 3: probably get back to them. And I used to tell
Speaker 3: myself I had to answer every DM and I used
Speaker 3: to tell myself, if someone's taking them time to write me,
Speaker 3: I need to write them back. And that was that
Speaker 3: destroyed my mental health. I was way way, way too
Speaker 3: involved in Instagram. It became, you know, a huge part
Speaker 3: of my life and my identity and the idea of
Speaker 3: not being relevant or the idea of losing what I'd
Speaker 3: worked for, like scared the hell out of me. What
Speaker 3: I'm doing now work wise is the work I've always
Speaker 3: wanted to do.
Speaker 1: I feel like Instagram has created this very bizarre world
Speaker 1: where everybody cares what something looks like and not what
Speaker 1: it actually feels like. It has ruined dating. Diamond here,
Speaker 1: who never wants to talk about her dating life, So
Speaker 1: we're not going to talk about your dating life. But
Speaker 1: skoot over to a microphone real quick.
Speaker 3: All right, let's rip her apart. Let's rip it.
Speaker 1: No, no, no. I just laugh at Diamond because I
Speaker 1: always say she is the queen of a tiny red
Speaker 1: flag and she'll never talk to somebody ever again, which
Speaker 1: I think is part of social media making you think
Speaker 1: that people only have green flags all the time and
Speaker 1: there's never anything wrong with somebody. So if you find
Speaker 1: one little thing you bounce. I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: social media.
Speaker 4: Oh, it's just you, it's just me, like I do.
Speaker 4: It's certain things that I just I'm like, I don't
Speaker 4: really have time to worry about that.
Speaker 3: Red flaggers are like that that they talk.
Speaker 1: About the ick.
Speaker 2: I get the ick very.
Speaker 3: Often, Like, what's an example.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I saw a video of this guy
Speaker 4: that I thought was cute walking out of the airport
Speaker 4: for so all, Why is someone recording you walking out
Speaker 4: of the airport.
Speaker 1: I think it's weird.
Speaker 4: But his backpack was on his back and one side
Speaker 4: was like off, and I'm like, that was so irritating
Speaker 4: to me because I'm like, I know you feel this,
Speaker 4: like fix it is this thing on? How do you
Speaker 4: not feel that like this, like your backpack is.
Speaker 1: Off of your shoulder?
Speaker 3: That's yeah. That might not be social media. That might
Speaker 3: just be her. Yeah, but a little fucked.
Speaker 1: Up Diamond is a lot fucked up, and that's why
Speaker 1: I love her. It's one of my favorites. But I
Speaker 1: think that is partially social media because you never would
Speaker 1: have seen that guy with that backpack walking out of
Speaker 1: the airport until you were actually there with him and
Speaker 1: might have had some type of connection.
Speaker 3: That's a good point because you know, for the most part,
Speaker 3: you know, and when you used to date someone, you
Speaker 3: only really knew what you saw of them when you
Speaker 3: saw him on like a Friday or a Saturday, so.
Speaker 1: Like, which is the real version of that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you would you wouldn't have noticed everyone in
Speaker 3: their little mistakes or mishaps or problems that end up
Speaker 3: on social media, and so I think that happened. What's
Speaker 3: happened for the most part of social media is this
Speaker 3: idea that people think they have options when they don't. Oh,
Speaker 3: I mean that's like diamonds. I think that's the real
Speaker 3: Dutch on social media.
Speaker 4: It's horrible when you think about like people being in
Speaker 4: relationships and like they say that cheating is more like
Speaker 4: people are cheating more now. I don't really think so,
Speaker 4: but I think it's more obvious because they're on Instagram
Speaker 4: liking pictures of women that men are and women too,
Speaker 4: but like men are on Instagram liking pictures of women
Speaker 4: that they'll never meet and thinking that they have Yeah,
Speaker 4: they think that they can. You know, why are you
Speaker 4: wasting your time liking something She's never going to see it?
Speaker 1: You lose her.
Speaker 3: I agree with you on them, but only in the
Speaker 3: sense that I find it disrespectful, because I do feel
Speaker 3: like it's just a waste of energy and time. And
Speaker 3: I think, you know, I understand, I understand that there
Speaker 3: might not be intention there, and some guys are like, oh,
Speaker 3: I just like them because I think she's hot, But
Speaker 3: I still think it's just like a waste of the energy,
Speaker 3: Like you're better off putting an energy into something else.
Speaker 3: So me personally, you know, in a relationship, like I've
Speaker 3: never liked or creeped other photos like that or like
Speaker 3: so they're in liked. I didn't even I mean, I
Speaker 3: don't even follow people in social media as I know
Speaker 3: them personally, and so I do think it's kind of
Speaker 3: pathetic when you see these guys that are in relationships
Speaker 3: and you look at who they're following, and like fifty
Speaker 3: of them are like OnlyFans models. It's discussing.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's a waste.
Speaker 3: It's a waste of your energy. It really is a
Speaker 3: waste of energy observing a.
Speaker 1: Lot about dating and initially starting in that realm of
Speaker 1: kind of observations, maybe advice about dating. Do you have
Speaker 1: any for our diamond? As she ventures out into this
Speaker 1: world here we go?
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, I think the idea that she
Speaker 3: started with about the idea of little red flags, like
Speaker 3: everyone's going to have those. I think it's good to
Speaker 3: have deal breakers. I think you absolutely should have things
Speaker 3: that you don't compromise on, but little red flags like
Speaker 3: a backpack strap, I think I think.
Speaker 1: Is I can see it right now.
Speaker 3: I think it is incredibly fucking silly, and you're going
Speaker 3: to You're gonna miss out on a lot of good
Speaker 3: people by finding fault in them. Say this is her,
Speaker 3: she's like he like, I could find fault anybody. You
Speaker 3: could give me anybody in the world, and I could
Speaker 3: find fault in him, because that's just the truth. That's
Speaker 3: life and deal breakers are one thing. But little red
Speaker 3: flies like that, you're gonna miss out on good stuff.
Speaker 3: You really are, because here's the thing is, you have
Speaker 3: those two there's looking there's a look at you and
Speaker 3: go look at her. Ick look at that. It gives
Speaker 3: me and it's just the truth, and you got to
Speaker 3: look past that stuff. I just think it would be
Speaker 3: very hard to date and be turned off by a
Speaker 3: backpack strap.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, No, it's very easy.
Speaker 2: Like I'm easy to.
Speaker 3: Be turned off or easy to date, because it sounds
Speaker 3: like dating is hard.
Speaker 4: No, well, dating is. I mean they say it all
Speaker 4: the time. The dating pool has p in it. You know,
Speaker 4: we we get it. It's a mess. But like also,
Speaker 4: it's just I could see the guy's backpack off of
Speaker 4: his shoulder right now.
Speaker 3: But he's a good looking guy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but that made him not so cute.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 4: It's just it's weird to me, Like I don't know.
Speaker 4: It just makes me wonder how your brain works, you know,
Speaker 4: how it's wired that you feel the strap.
Speaker 3: Wanted to go to dinner with him and find out.
Speaker 1: Say, she won't do it. Now, it's like dead, it's
Speaker 1: dead in the water. It's not gonna happen. It's okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah. It'd be different if you'd gone to dinner with
Speaker 3: that guy and he like snapped at a waiter and
Speaker 3: like he like made a big deal and like, you know,
Speaker 3: threw a fit over some dumb shit at dinner. Like
Speaker 3: I get it, Like that's actually that's a character trait, right,
Speaker 3: I think judging someone off a character trait is more
Speaker 3: accurate as opposed to a backpack strap, which has nothing
Speaker 3: to do with character.
Speaker 1: I gotta say on that though, more than the backpack
Speaker 1: strap bothering me, I would be a little suspicious of
Speaker 1: why you have somebody recording it as you're walking out
Speaker 1: of an airport. That would be like more if the
Speaker 1: red flag to me, like that, what's happening?
Speaker 3: The thing is like that shit's become so normalized with
Speaker 3: social media.
Speaker 1: I hate it. They need make cameras more expensive, I
Speaker 1: can tripods more expensive.
Speaker 3: They need to ban tripods and gym like I agree,
Speaker 3: Like I go to a public gym and if I
Speaker 3: see someone with a tripod, I legitimately want to kick it,
Speaker 3: like it pisses me off. And I don't understand why
Speaker 3: gyms don't ban them, because if you open a gym
Speaker 3: and you had a big sign that says no tripods,
Speaker 3: keep your influencer shit at home. Do you know any
Speaker 3: people with join your gym just because you're taking a
Speaker 3: stand on that stuff.
Speaker 1: My gym says it, but people still do it constantly,
Speaker 1: And I just think in my head to like, who's
Speaker 1: watching this? Who's actually watching you work out at I'm
Speaker 1: not going to say the gym, but at this gym right,
Speaker 1: this is very stupid. I hate it. I hate the tripods.
Speaker 1: And everybody has a podcast now which I'm trying to
Speaker 1: get you to do. Are you going to do it?
Speaker 3: I don't want to fall into the category of everybody.
Speaker 1: No, but I think you actually have things to say
Speaker 1: where I what I've been seeing a lot, and granted
Speaker 1: it's my social media, so the algorithm is feeding me
Speaker 1: what I'm looking at and just giving me more of it.
Speaker 1: But I see a lot of dudes sitting in a
Speaker 1: room talking about how women suck and what women need
Speaker 1: to do differently, and I find that fascinating. And I
Speaker 1: don't know how all of them just came up with
Speaker 1: pot and people are watched. It's insane to me.
Speaker 3: What's stupid too, those You got people that don't have
Speaker 3: podcasts that are recording videos of them wearing headphones talking
Speaker 3: into a microphone just so they can have clips to
Speaker 3: post on social media and look like that of a.
Speaker 1: Podcast that they should have known that existed.
Speaker 3: That's like a new thing people are doing, like they're
Speaker 3: not even on a podcast, but they'll get a mic
Speaker 3: and they'll put headphones on, they'll record themselves singing like
Speaker 3: some kind of life advice, and they'll clip it and
Speaker 3: they'll post that are real to try and look at
Speaker 3: that podcast. And that's my biggest issue with social media,
Speaker 3: and it's probably why I've taken a step back from it,
Speaker 3: is I think it's just given everybody this idea they're
Speaker 3: all a star and they all have something that needs
Speaker 3: to be said, and it's just like everyone thinks they're important.
Speaker 3: And you know, I was reading recently that. I think
Speaker 3: it was the company Lego did a study a couple
Speaker 3: of years back, kids between like eight and eleven years
Speaker 3: old in the UK and the US what they wanted
Speaker 3: to be when they grow up, and the number one
Speaker 3: thing is a YouTube content creator. Wow, that's what kids
Speaker 3: want to be these days. And I think that is
Speaker 3: I think that is incredibly fucking depressing, and I think
Speaker 3: it just shows a huge lack of imagination, but it
Speaker 3: also shows like kind of where we're steering our youth.
Speaker 3: I had a day. My friend calls it my Kanye
Speaker 3: moment because I had a day. I had a day.
Speaker 3: Rout was just fed up with it. And it was
Speaker 3: probably like in twenty seventeen or something, but I had
Speaker 3: written something that got reposted by several of those large
Speaker 3: meme accounts, you know, like fuck Jerry, Yeah, fuck Jerry,
Speaker 3: the fat Jewish, he's.
Speaker 1: The worst, the beach steals everybody's everything.
Speaker 3: Yet anyway, what everyone and he does, I mean, just
Speaker 3: don't get me started on Jay Shetty. His whole backstory
Speaker 3: is bullshit.
Speaker 1: And there's like you can see Andrew was here right now.
Speaker 1: Andrew has a whole Ja Shetty conspiracy theory. He said,
Speaker 1: he's going down.
Speaker 3: He should go down. I mean I've I've had my
Speaker 3: content post on his page back in the day where
Speaker 3: it's like his team would just take something, erase your name,
Speaker 3: write his name beneath it, and post it unreal and
Speaker 3: that's how he made it following. And so I had
Speaker 3: a day back in like twenty seventeen where i'd had
Speaker 3: I'd written something. I can't remember what it was, but
Speaker 3: it got reposted by all these big meme accounts. So
Speaker 3: I screenshot at all of them and I post at
Speaker 3: all of them, and I was like, hey, fuck Jerry,
Speaker 3: fuck you. I wrote this two years ago, and I
Speaker 3: had like that's part of the reason why I always
Speaker 3: took the screenshots on twitters, because I had a timestamp. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and this is before you could fake like tweets really easy.
Speaker 1: But I know you can do that. I am missing out.
Speaker 3: I would do it, so I had proof of when
Speaker 3: I actually wrote that, and I had him in books.
Speaker 3: And so I had a day where I called out
Speaker 3: every account that was ripped me off and I posted
Speaker 3: like twelve things in a row, and it was like
Speaker 3: Beige Card again. It was all these huge accounts. So anyway,
Speaker 3: I got my account shut down temporarily for cyberbullying.
Speaker 1: It was a cyber bully.
Speaker 3: That was a cyber bully for calling these accounts out.
Speaker 3: And that's the only time I've ever had my account
Speaker 3: shut off. And then I had another time where I
Speaker 3: got into a beef with a comedian who had posted
Speaker 3: something of mine, and he he posted something of mine
Speaker 3: and then people were writing comments like saying, oh, I
Speaker 3: love this, this is so great, and the way he
Speaker 3: was responding, he was taking credit for it, like he
Speaker 3: created it. And I was like, I was sitting there
Speaker 3: and I texted one of my buddies and I was like,
Speaker 3: watch it. I'm about to post in ten minutes and
Speaker 3: it's still a my Instagram. It was Dane Cook, and
Speaker 3: so I.
Speaker 1: Dane Cook is still doing comedy, yes, is Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: the most shocking part of this whole thing, right, So.
Speaker 3: I wrote, like this big, long thing just kind of,
Speaker 3: you know, ripping into him for stealing. And he's like
Speaker 3: a known joke thief. I know a lot of comedians
Speaker 3: have actually had problems with him. So I ripped him
Speaker 3: apart and then I think I think he might have
Speaker 3: reported or someone else did. But I almost got my
Speaker 3: account shut down for that too, same things cyber bowling.
Speaker 3: But that's the only time I've really had issues online.
Speaker 3: I've watched countless celebrities rip my shit off, and I've
Speaker 3: contacted some of them and they've been good about it.
Speaker 3: Like I've contacted some of them and said, hey, I
Speaker 3: don't know if someone at your team, you know, screenshot
Speaker 3: of that for you, but I wrote that, and they'll
Speaker 3: be good and they'll credit me, and some of them
Speaker 3: actually become friends of mine. I actually become friends with
Speaker 3: some of them strictly because they ripped my shit off
Speaker 3: and then I wrote them to call them out. And
Speaker 3: I've usually I've usually always tried sending a DM to
Speaker 3: be like, you know, listen, I know the internet shit
Speaker 3: gets ripped off all the time. You probably didn't know that.
Speaker 3: But I wrote this, and it's like fifty to fifty.
Speaker 3: Some of them were really cool about it, and some
Speaker 3: of them like fuck you, and they blocked me in immediately.
Speaker 3: So I've been blocked by a lot of big accounts
Speaker 3: just for calling them out for that.
Speaker 1: Aren't like celebrity accounts, not.
Speaker 3: Celebrities, but just like big meme accounts. I think what
Speaker 3: blows my mind about that is the fact that people
Speaker 3: think it's okay to do it.
Speaker 1: It's wild. And not only do people think it's okay
Speaker 1: to just steal content left and right. It happens to
Speaker 1: us all the time. We will say something on the
Speaker 1: show and the next day it's a meme and people
Speaker 1: are just posting that, like we didn't just say it,
Speaker 1: and it's radio so I can't go back and take
Speaker 1: a screenshot of it.
Speaker 3: You know. I want to talk about social media being
Speaker 3: a net negative. I mean, there's the mental health aspect
Speaker 3: of it, but also I just think it's really crushed
Speaker 3: people's critical thinking. It used to be where you take
Speaker 3: an information and you form your own thought about it,
Speaker 3: and now, instead of forming the thought, you just take
Speaker 3: the information and you don't think about it. I just
Speaker 3: think it's lost a lot of meaning.
Speaker 1: I could see that. I want to go back to
Speaker 1: the celebrity part of what you were talking about, because
Speaker 1: you started off, like you said, copywriting, then getting into advertising,
Speaker 1: then your social media account blows up, and now you're
Speaker 1: interacting with celebrities. Do you ever take a step back
Speaker 1: and think this this is bizarre?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Do you think this is exactly the way I thought
Speaker 1: this was gonna come no.
Speaker 3: Very very weird. I have. I have friends of mine
Speaker 3: now that I remember watching in movies when I was
Speaker 3: a kid, and like I remember, like I'll be at
Speaker 3: dinner with them and we become a good friends and
Speaker 3: I'll be like, man, I'm read being in high school,
Speaker 3: like watching you in the movie and it was just
Speaker 3: so weird. Like, whether you choose to believe in the
Speaker 3: law of attraction or not, you should believe that you
Speaker 3: can change your life. You could have a whole podcast
Speaker 3: on just the way. I think victim culture has taken
Speaker 3: over society too.
Speaker 1: You know we talk about that all the time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like it's like who can have the shittier life? Right,
Speaker 3: Like who can sell, you know, tell the saddest story.
Speaker 1: And I understand, like some people who have great lives
Speaker 1: really want to be a press and they really want
Speaker 1: to feel like they're struggling. Just enjoy it. Enjoy your
Speaker 1: great life. That's wonderful.
Speaker 3: Or you'll have someone who genuinely is having a really
Speaker 3: hard time and they decide to finally be vulnerable and
Speaker 3: share it. And so they share it and they get
Speaker 3: a ton of feedback, and now they're addicted to this
Speaker 3: feedback loop. They're like, hey, I told a story about
Speaker 3: my boyfriend cheating on me and how it broke me,
Speaker 3: and look at many comments I got, and then they
Speaker 3: lean into that, Okay, I'm just gonna tell more sad stories.
Speaker 3: The victim mentality is probably probably the most detrimental thing
Speaker 3: you can do to your life or anyone around you,
Speaker 3: Like it's so easy to think everything's bad when you're
Speaker 3: stuck in that loop.
Speaker 1: It definitely is. What do you think about cancel culture?
Speaker 3: I think you have to allow yourself to be canceled.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 1: I've been saying this for a long time. I don't
Speaker 1: really believe it exists.
Speaker 3: I believe it exists in the sense that people try
Speaker 3: to do it, which they.
Speaker 1: Try, but only if you acquiesce does it actually happen.
Speaker 1: If you just keep saying like, oh, I go fuck yourself.
Speaker 3: I believe it's real, but I believe you. I believe
Speaker 3: it's real in the sense that people attempt to do it,
Speaker 3: and I think it's bullshit. But at the same time,
Speaker 3: I think you have to choose to be canceled, Like
Speaker 3: I actually have that in the book speech therapy, like
Speaker 3: what to what to do if you're canceled?
Speaker 1: Did you have you been canceled?
Speaker 3: I've had people try all the time. Like I've said
Speaker 3: plenty offensive things that people have tried to cancel me for.
Speaker 3: And one of my favorite things is I love watching
Speaker 3: people double down.
Speaker 1: I love I love too, I tell time and all
Speaker 1: the time. I love when people are like, no, I'm
Speaker 1: not sorry.
Speaker 3: That's my favorite thing about Dave Chappelle is I love
Speaker 3: watching someone who is that intelligent and clever and good
Speaker 3: at what they do double down.
Speaker 1: I know in this business that we're in, people are
Speaker 1: so worried about it all the time, and I say,
Speaker 1: just say what you have to say. People are gonna
Speaker 1: get over it. Especially with social media moving at the
Speaker 1: speed that it does right now, people forget you don't
Speaker 1: ever remember.
Speaker 3: Seventy two hour rule. Yeah, like in seventy two hours,
Speaker 3: they'll be pissed about something else.
Speaker 1: Exactly, and you can just move on with your life
Speaker 1: and nobody cares anymore, which is great and terrible at
Speaker 1: the same time. I'm very interested, and we can do
Speaker 1: this off the air, because I'm sure you don't want
Speaker 1: to like shit on anybody, but I really want to
Speaker 1: hear the rest of your ja schetty stuff, because when
Speaker 1: I tell you.
Speaker 3: I'll shoot on Jay Shatty all day. I have no
Speaker 3: I have I have I I have no problem calling
Speaker 3: out people that are plagiarists.
Speaker 1: Okay, so it's the plagiarism that bothers you, not the other.
Speaker 3: I probably don't know enough about the other stuff, Okay,
Speaker 3: be honest. I've seen it happen where and this was like,
Speaker 3: you know, when he was just getting his come up
Speaker 3: as a career. I've seen posts where he just puts
Speaker 3: his name on word for words stuff other people have written.
Speaker 3: Plagiarism to me, when you put your name on something
Speaker 3: and you claim you've done it is like a kin
Speaker 3: to like murder.
Speaker 1: You would send someone to death for plagiarism.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, we need to go back to Babylonian law
Speaker 3: and be chopping off hands and shit, because I think
Speaker 3: people would actually be a lot. And I always tell
Speaker 3: people this, like I missed the old the Wild West,
Speaker 3: when someone cheated at a game of cards and you
Speaker 3: could take him on the street and shoot them with
Speaker 3: a revolver. Like I missed the fact that you could
Speaker 3: be like all right, high noon, you just cheated. I
Speaker 3: watched you cheated this hand of cards. High noon, We're
Speaker 3: gonna go out there and we're gonna have a problem
Speaker 3: with it, like.
Speaker 1: An you want to bring back the duel?
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, I know problem if if I think if
Speaker 3: two grown men today want a duel, they should be
Speaker 3: allowed to. And I know there's states that allow it's
Speaker 3: called mutual combat. I know Texas is one of them.
Speaker 1: Of course, Texas one of them.
Speaker 3: If you go up to a cap up in Texas
Speaker 3: and you stay me and this individual, if agreed to
Speaker 3: mutual combat, we're gonna fight. The cop won't do anything.
Speaker 3: He'll let you, guys fight it out.
Speaker 1: The cop will let you to pull out a gun
Speaker 1: and shoot at each other.
Speaker 3: I don't know how far it'll go, but he'll let
Speaker 3: They'll let you fight.
Speaker 1: But at the very least like fists.
Speaker 3: They'll let you fight, fly, don't let Yeah, they'll let
Speaker 3: you fight and they won't stop it. How do you
Speaker 3: know this because it's a mutual combat law.
Speaker 1: Have you done this?
Speaker 3: No? But I respect it, and I'm telling you, like
Speaker 3: if you wanted a Babylonian law and chop people's thumbs off,
Speaker 3: it's probably where it should start. So you can no longer
Speaker 3: use your smartphone like i'd before it. Man, I would
Speaker 3: be one hundred percent for that as a forflagiarizing people online.
Speaker 1: So please know when somebody steals from Kyle Creek, he
Speaker 1: thinks about chopping off your thumb.
Speaker 3: Yes, and I would maybe shooting you. I would support
Speaker 3: that in a court proceeding, for sure.
Speaker 1: Listen, they think that I'm insane because of a lot
Speaker 1: of the way that I feel about stuff. Any think
Speaker 1: I'm too passionate.
Speaker 3: Well, you know the French are still using a guillotine
Speaker 3: to like the seventies. No, I did not know that
Speaker 3: the last used to the guillotine in France, I think
Speaker 3: was nineteen seventy seven. So like over insane, Like over
Speaker 3: here in America it was all like flower power and hippies,
Speaker 3: and over in France it was like bag gettes and
Speaker 3: bloody heads, like and there's a photo of it. It
Speaker 3: was like it was a convicted murderer. And there's a
Speaker 3: photo of a medieval guillotine just like you would imagine
Speaker 3: a guillotine would look. And there's a crowd of people
Speaker 3: standing around watching this guy gaguillotine in the seventies.
Speaker 1: That's psychotic, that's insane. But you you're all about it,
Speaker 1: you want to bring it back.
Speaker 3: I think I think it changes people's characters.
Speaker 1: You're into like chopping off body parts, heads, thumbs.
Speaker 3: If it holds people to a higher standard, yes, And
Speaker 3: I kind of feel like that's why society is the
Speaker 3: way it is. There's no there's no repercussions for people anymore.
Speaker 3: Like people are getting off with doing like heinous, awful,
Speaker 3: terrible crimes and they're getting out. I mean, there's a
Speaker 3: reason why when you used to sail into a port
Speaker 3: as a pirate, they had like pirates hanging out that
Speaker 3: port to tell you, like, we don't we don't tolerate
Speaker 3: that shit here. And I feel like a lot of
Speaker 3: society I went back that you would only have to
Speaker 3: go back to it for literally like five days. If
Speaker 3: you did like, if you did for like five days.
Speaker 1: Dead bodies, people that deserve it.
Speaker 3: Okay, if you do that for like five days, it
Speaker 3: would be enough for people to be like, oh fuck,
Speaker 3: they're serious.
Speaker 1: I don't disagree with that. Actually, I just want to
Speaker 1: know what all of the hangable offenses are because you're
Speaker 1: saying plagiarism, I'm not really sure. Oh okay, So thumbs
Speaker 1: off for plagiarism. What's the hangable offense?
Speaker 3: Uh, you know, murder, rape, anything involving kids like that
Speaker 3: kind of stuff. I mean, all day, string them up. Okay,
Speaker 3: so I got nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 1: If you can build society the way that you want
Speaker 1: it to be built, you're going to bring back death
Speaker 1: public death for five days.
Speaker 3: I'd be like Vlad the Impaler, but with better style.
Speaker 1: Oh really, well, how would your style be better?
Speaker 3: You know, a nice Victorian code or something.
Speaker 1: Listen, I have an idea. I bring this up in
Speaker 1: every podcast, almost every podcast. I want to start a
Speaker 1: podcast called Can I Touch It? And I just suit
Speaker 1: up and whatever I need to suit up in, and
Speaker 1: I try to touch all the animals that in my
Speaker 1: head I think I'd be able to touch because they
Speaker 1: will like feel that I'm a good person and they
Speaker 1: won't attack me.
Speaker 3: Is that a podcast or like it's more like a YouTube.
Speaker 1: It will be both. Yeah, it would be like a
Speaker 1: recorded You could definitely.
Speaker 3: Watch you up and just hear you scream.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I'm telling you, I don't think I will scream.
Speaker 1: I think we will get along very well. I just
Speaker 1: start with a platypus. Okay, I think I could touch
Speaker 1: a platypus I think would be okay. I know they
Speaker 1: have a little bit of poison.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a little poisonous spurs and yeah.
Speaker 1: And they're the best animal ever.
Speaker 3: I love blooming octopus.
Speaker 1: So I hear I saw a lady that had one.
Speaker 3: Honor wearing a glove or are you doing a bare handed.
Speaker 1: I would have to wear a glove because it will
Speaker 1: be very danger because it'll be very short lived if
Speaker 1: I don't have a glove.
Speaker 3: I think you're only allowed to wear a glove on animals.
Speaker 1: You don't care about people's fingers. We've established.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, like the danger has to be there, though,
Speaker 3: Like you could wear a glove if you're touching a bear,
Speaker 3: because the danger is still there, right because a bear
Speaker 3: doesn't matter. It can rip your arm off. But if
Speaker 3: you're wearing a glove to touch a blooming octopus, that
Speaker 3: defeats the purpose.
Speaker 1: But a blue wearing octopus could poison me, So I mean.
Speaker 3: Part of it, that's the danger part of it.
Speaker 1: So the company is not behind me on this. I've
Speaker 1: really tried, but I've already started. I've started touching all
Speaker 1: the things I could possibly touch.
Speaker 3: What you just go to the zoo here and touch things.
Speaker 1: No, but you can. Did you know you can? You
Speaker 1: can get behind the scenes with a lot of the
Speaker 1: zoo stuff. So penguins you can't touch them. I got
Speaker 1: bitten by a penguin. It was the worst bite I
Speaker 1: think I've ever had in my entire life.
Speaker 3: That's crazy.
Speaker 1: Monkeys, fifty to fifty monkeys are sketchy.
Speaker 3: Monkey scare me. I've never understood why anyone won a
Speaker 3: monkey as a pet.
Speaker 1: I understand it. I would never understand.
Speaker 3: Oh, I think I think monkeys are.
Speaker 1: Creepy because they're like little humans.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they're like little humans that are like terrible
Speaker 3: little humans.
Speaker 1: Like they're like toddlers.
Speaker 3: No, like they're worse because a toddler doesn't have that
Speaker 3: kind of strength or teeth. It's like, it's like everything
Speaker 3: you would not want your child to be is what.
Speaker 3: A monkey is stronger than you as sharp teeth, they're
Speaker 3: fucking crazy, They're fast, like everything you don't want your
Speaker 3: child to become. That's why I'm neuriused why you have
Speaker 3: monkey as a pet. It's like purposely being like I
Speaker 3: want the most ill behaved, horrible child, but I also
Speaker 3: wann't to have enough strength to rip me in half,
Speaker 3: and then you get a pet monkey. I've never understood it.
Speaker 3: It's stupid.
Speaker 1: Specifically chimpanzees, those were the tough. I got bitten by
Speaker 1: a monkey. The monkey had no teeth. It was one
Speaker 1: of the worst bruises I've ever had in my life.
Speaker 1: It was so bad. It was a lump in my
Speaker 1: thigh for probably three or four weeks.
Speaker 3: Because it went for it. Humans will pull back a
Speaker 3: bit because, like we kind of know them pain were
Speaker 3: inflicted by animals, don't They don't care.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that monkey was like, please go fuck yourself. Horseshoe
Speaker 1: crabs were good, Sharks were good, fox were good.
Speaker 3: Snakes.
Speaker 1: I've touched a lot of snakes.
Speaker 3: Like poisonous ones.
Speaker 1: No, I haven't touch a poisonous one.
Speaker 2: Yea.
Speaker 1: I have a snake guy, so I think he'll let
Speaker 1: me come.
Speaker 3: There's a show where these guys just let like animals
Speaker 3: sting and bite them. I had camera what it's called.
Speaker 1: I've seen these guys before because they've gotten it from
Speaker 1: snakes and been and been completely and.
Speaker 3: They'll let like these giant hornets, or they'll they'll let
Speaker 3: like these really poisonous spiders like to let like a
Speaker 3: black widow bite them. It's called Kings of Pain. And
Speaker 3: then they rate it on like a scale and they
Speaker 3: let all sorts of just like really toxic, nasty insects
Speaker 3: by them.
Speaker 1: They only had two seasons. I wonder why are they alive?
Speaker 1: Let's see, Yeah, we had We have a friend who's
Speaker 1: an African safari tour guide and he said the thing
Speaker 1: that scares him more than anything, more than the lions,
Speaker 1: the hyenas, panthers, leopards, whatever it is, he's the black
Speaker 1: mamba is the scariest thing you'll ever encounter.
Speaker 3: That's super super fast and crawly toxic.
Speaker 1: I believe I could touch it that I would watch,
Speaker 1: you would watch me die.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's the whole point of that show.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying someone's gonna steal this at some point
Speaker 1: because I talked about as.
Speaker 3: To say, Kings of Pain, I think kind of tried
Speaker 3: to do that. But the reason it's interesting because that
Speaker 3: you have to have the danger. It has to be dangerous.
Speaker 1: I think it would be dangerous, But.
Speaker 3: Nothing dangerous about touching some of these animals with the
Speaker 3: glove on.
Speaker 1: Okay, so some of them we won't wear the glove,
Speaker 1: but if my hand gets bitten off in the first round,
Speaker 1: Like it's just going to kill the season.
Speaker 3: But everyone's going to watch that episode, and.
Speaker 1: Thank god, we'd have one strong viral episode.
Speaker 3: Just go die, put that on YouTube, get some ad revenue.
Speaker 3: You get a couple million views. You're good.
Speaker 1: So your world so far. We are bringing back the guillotine. Yes,
Speaker 1: we're bringing back hanging people in public for five days.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all you need.
Speaker 1: That's a duel.
Speaker 3: Yeah, duels for sure if two people agree on.
Speaker 1: For sure, and chopping off people's fingers for plagiarism.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thumbs where else? I think that's probably a good start,
Speaker 3: a good start.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's definitely wod You know what I
Speaker 1: think we should do. I think we should allow people
Speaker 1: and this would really help the dairy industry too, specifically
Speaker 1: egg farmers. We should allow people to get one egg
Speaker 1: a day, and if someone pisses you off, whatever they
Speaker 1: piss you off for, you can throw one egg a day.
Speaker 1: You only get one, so you have to be really
Speaker 1: discerning about whether you want to release that egg or not.
Speaker 1: And if you save them all up for a week
Speaker 1: and someone really pisses you off, you could throw all
Speaker 1: seven but I think that if we sort of police
Speaker 1: society that way, or you just can't walk around being
Speaker 1: a douchebag because you might get hit with an egg,
Speaker 1: people would up right differently.
Speaker 3: Well, it used to be like that where like, you know,
Speaker 3: people just punch you in the mouth. I mean, Mike
Speaker 3: Tyson has that famous quote where he says, you know,
Speaker 3: the problem is like people don't get punched in the
Speaker 3: mouth anymore.
Speaker 1: So would you bring back a punch of the mouth
Speaker 1: as well?
Speaker 3: Dude? If you're talking shit to someone and you get
Speaker 3: punched in the mouth and you deserved it, I'm all
Speaker 3: for that.
Speaker 1: Men and women equal opportunity.
Speaker 3: I think depends on the level of what's being said.
Speaker 1: So what could what could a woman say to you
Speaker 1: to deserve a punch in the mouth?
Speaker 3: To me, yeah, nothing, I mean because I I don't
Speaker 3: know that a woman could get under my skin in
Speaker 3: that way.
Speaker 1: Why is that?
Speaker 3: Because I just have like a different I view it differently.
Speaker 1: Do you value us less?
Speaker 3: No? I think I just view it as I view
Speaker 3: men with a different kind of level of like the
Speaker 3: character I expect from them. I guess, Okay, it's the
Speaker 3: same reason why I say, like two men dueling and like,
Speaker 3: you know, a game of cards. It's like I just
Speaker 3: kind of feel like I hold men to this certain
Speaker 3: standard that I feel like society is lost. I would expect,
Speaker 3: you know, men to behave a certain way, but you.
Speaker 1: Expect women to just be crazy, you expect that.
Speaker 3: I'm way more forgiving of it.
Speaker 1: Is it because we're smaller? Why you more forgiving?
Speaker 3: I think it's just me being polite. I think I
Speaker 3: think I think it's a way. I think just it's
Speaker 3: a way, like I think, I really do think it's
Speaker 3: just it's like a polite thing to do. It's because
Speaker 3: I don't consider it as much of a threat as
Speaker 3: I would like. So if a man is trying to
Speaker 3: get aggressive with me, like I know, there's like certain
Speaker 3: things that are going to be said, or like there's
Speaker 3: a certain like repercussion that's likely to happen unless I mean,
Speaker 3: have you seen the movie swim Fan.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a long time ago, The Stalker Girl that you
Speaker 1: Ain't Mad?
Speaker 3: Why that's a hard movie to watch because that was
Speaker 3: like super vindictive kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: I love that swim Fan is your trigger.
Speaker 3: Dude, you should watch that movie. That lady is like
Speaker 3: she was like that's like straight up psychologic like trying
Speaker 3: to ruin someone's life.
Speaker 1: Kind of did they ever date? Was there like a
Speaker 1: thing I don't remember, you just remember it was so
Speaker 1: mad that she's the girl.
Speaker 3: That I remember watched it in high school and being like,
Speaker 3: whoa this this like makes me mad to watch.
Speaker 1: Do you ever? Do you ever have any encounters with
Speaker 1: like stalker like people off?
Speaker 3: But again, it's not something that's really bothered me.
Speaker 1: And yeah, this is you're a big guy, like soccer.
Speaker 1: Is that that bothers me?
Speaker 3: I mean some if some lady pulled a gun on me,
Speaker 3: I mean, no whole are barred at that point. But
Speaker 3: I do think probably some of it comes from the
Speaker 3: fact that I'm fairly confident, like my size, and then
Speaker 3: again it just comes down to the level of respect.
Speaker 3: And I think I have a pretty good sense of
Speaker 3: when people are trying to push my buttons too, and
Speaker 3: I know that a lot of times people want a
Speaker 3: certain reaction.
Speaker 1: And so it's kind of like in person or online.
Speaker 3: In person too, like really like I've steered away from
Speaker 3: a lot of like when I was younger, you know,
Speaker 3: going on Utah. I mean there's a lot of bar
Speaker 3: fights that happen.
Speaker 1: In like a lot of shit talkers in Utah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's like country bar kind of stuff, Okay,
Speaker 3: I mean it's a lot of country boys at some
Speaker 3: of those places.
Speaker 1: I don't go to country bars, and so.
Speaker 3: Like I kind of always knew when like they were
Speaker 3: trying to start a fight, and I was like, that's
Speaker 3: the reaction they want. So at that point's like you
Speaker 3: do the opposite thing and it kind of irritates them more.
Speaker 1: So your world is shaping up to be a place
Speaker 1: of I guess we would say violence.
Speaker 3: It's a place of respect.
Speaker 1: It's a place of respect, and when there's no respect violence.
Speaker 3: It worked for a long time.
Speaker 1: I'm on board with this for the most part. I
Speaker 1: think I'm on board with it, and now it doesn't anymore, saying.
Speaker 3: A lot of countries were founded on that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: I joke about things like cutting people's thumb off. But
Speaker 3: then part of me is like it holds people to
Speaker 3: a level. It holds people, It holds people to a
Speaker 3: level that I think it ultimately creates more self respect.
Speaker 3: And I just think a lot of people have gotten
Speaker 3: away with too much. I think people are too comfortable
Speaker 3: talking shit on other people. I think people are too
Speaker 3: comfortable judging others. I think people are too comfortable insulting others.
Speaker 3: I think people are too comfortable meddling in other people's lives.
Speaker 3: I feel that's the biggest drain social media has had
Speaker 3: on society.
Speaker 1: Okay, so then I will I'll leave our audience with
Speaker 1: the answer to this question. Through everything, through your journey
Speaker 1: and what you've been doing, are you happy right now?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: What would you like to be different?
Speaker 3: I do think there's things in my life I need
Speaker 3: to improve. I think my relationship. I think I'm on
Speaker 3: a good path towards fatherhood. I do think I can
Speaker 3: be a better father. And there's a lot that I
Speaker 3: want to accomplish in my career that I've yet to accomplish.
Speaker 3: And I think one of my biggest issues is I
Speaker 3: struggle with being happy than now. And I've realized that
Speaker 3: about myself because I'm very gold driven. I achieved something
Speaker 3: that I'm just like, what's next, What's next? And so
Speaker 3: probably one of the things that I know that I
Speaker 3: have really sucked at in my life is celebrating my wins.
Speaker 3: Like when some good happens, I don't really celebrate it.
Speaker 3: I just I moved to the next thing, and it's
Speaker 3: something that I'm actively trying to get better at. You know,
Speaker 3: I feel like I feel like a lot of my
Speaker 3: success has come from the fact that I'm never satisfied.
Speaker 3: But at the same time that has also caused probably
Speaker 3: some of my greatest pain in life. And so it's
Speaker 3: it's something I'm aware that I need to work on
Speaker 3: and I don't. I'm not gonna lie to someone and
Speaker 3: tell them that I don't, because I know I do.
Speaker 3: I know I struggle with that.
Speaker 1: Has writing these books been therapy for you as well?
Speaker 1: While you give people advice, most.
Speaker 3: Of the stuff I write is advice to myself.
Speaker 1: You're talking to yourself.
Speaker 3: Yeah, most of the stuff, and I've said this before,
Speaker 3: most of the stuff I write is things that I
Speaker 3: need to hear or things that I needed to hear
Speaker 3: at times like I'll look back and be like, man,
Speaker 3: if I would have known this six months ago, it
Speaker 3: would have made that situation easier. That's also kind of
Speaker 3: why I feel like so much responsibility for what I write.
Speaker 3: And it's the reason why like I'm so against like
Speaker 3: sponsored ads and kind of selling out. Is I need
Speaker 3: my work as much as other people need my work
Speaker 3: because I feel lost when I don't write, and writing
Speaker 3: forces me into this state of introspection that I wouldn't
Speaker 3: have otherwise, because when I sit down and I think, Okay,
Speaker 3: what am I going to write about today? Ninety five
Speaker 3: percent of the time, it's what am I currently feeling? Okay, Like,
Speaker 3: what am I dealing with right now? Particularly with what
Speaker 3: I've done with my substack the past few weeks, you know,
Speaker 3: I started kind of shifting my substack to things that
Speaker 3: are current on my mind, what am I currently struggling with,
Speaker 3: And a lot of it's me processing it and coming
Speaker 3: to terms of it, or it's me giving myself the
Speaker 3: advice that I know I need at the time.
Speaker 1: So I people want to find your books? Where can
Speaker 1: they find them?
Speaker 3: Amazon is where they're all available. If you search Kyle
Speaker 3: Kreek as a Captain, or you can search like any
Speaker 3: of the titles, if you search like speech Therapy or
Speaker 3: fucking History. I mean, it'll come up. And then my
Speaker 3: Amazon pages there that has everything.
Speaker 1: And you want them to get it now because you
Speaker 1: just sold one of these.
Speaker 3: I want them to definitely buy Speech Therapy now while
Speaker 3: it's a self published book, because it's money directly in
Speaker 3: my pocket, and I need some goats and that's my
Speaker 3: goat fund.
Speaker 1: A lot of questions about these goats, but okay, well,
Speaker 1: thank you so much. I really appreciate it. Thanks for
Speaker 1: spinning so much time with me. And I'm sure we'll
Speaker 1: see you again when you come back through New York.
Speaker 1: All right, Kyle Creek, thank you.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 1: Kyle was awesome. Love him for coming in. He's a
Speaker 1: good time. I feel like it would be nice to
Speaker 1: have him back. In light of all of the things
Speaker 1: that have happened over the last week or two.
Speaker 2: It's insane that we have lived through a presidential assassination attempt,
Speaker 2: a Y two K bug basically, and then a president
Speaker 2: dropping out, all in one week.
Speaker 1: It's insanity if you think about just our lifetimes as millennials. Yes,
Speaker 1: what we've done through, it's a miracle that we're so
Speaker 1: well preserved and we look young. It's crazy.
Speaker 2: I just want like a pause on unprecedented events, right,
Speaker 2: Can we make them presidented again?
Speaker 1: For the No. I don't want any of this to
Speaker 1: be precedented, none of it. I am sick of it.
Speaker 1: I'm tired of just being like, huh.
Speaker 2: It's it's like you're trying not to doom scroll, but
Speaker 2: at the same time, it's like then you feel uninformed,
Speaker 2: and then being uninformed, it's like that's such a faux pas,
Speaker 2: especially nowadays. But you really do need to carve out
Speaker 2: some time to just kind of scream into a pillow. Uh,
Speaker 2: maybe do some hot yoga, Oh my god, just do
Speaker 2: something to get your mind off of it.
Speaker 1: And it's also very interesting. And I'm just gonna say
Speaker 1: this one thing. I know that there are a lot
Speaker 1: of people who say things like we can all disagree
Speaker 1: on politics and we can still be friends. And I
Speaker 1: think that used to be the case. I do not
Speaker 1: feel that that's the case anymore. And I'm gonna explain why.
Speaker 1: Because if you are a person who is in the
Speaker 1: impacted group of a lot of the things that could
Speaker 1: be coming down the barrel, if you're in the LGBTQIA community,
Speaker 1: if you are a minority, if you are a woman,
Speaker 1: if you care about medicaid, if you care about all
Speaker 1: these very big important things, maybe even wars overseas. If
Speaker 1: you care about those things, if you're impacted by those things,
Speaker 1: it's very hard to be friends with a person who
Speaker 1: actively votes against you and your human rights, your bodily autonomy,
Speaker 1: and all of these things. It's getting more and more
Speaker 1: difficult to do that as badly as it seems to
Speaker 1: be existing now. So if you see people getting a
Speaker 1: little more tense and a little more chaotic about things,
Speaker 1: that could be part of the reason. And if you
Speaker 1: can sit there and say, hey, we can still be friends.
Speaker 1: You have to take a step back and appreciate how very,
Speaker 1: very privileged you are to be in a group that
Speaker 1: you know is not going to be impacted by these things.
Speaker 1: And that's not a bad thing, that doesn't make you
Speaker 1: a bad person. Enjoy it. Appreciate that because I know
Speaker 1: I'm not in that group. Andrew, I don't think you're
Speaker 1: in that group. It's a tough one.
Speaker 2: It's yeah, it's I think you said it perfectly. You can.
Speaker 2: I'm all up for discussion. I'm all for talking things out.
Speaker 2: I think you can approach things, try and change people's
Speaker 2: minds in heart. But it just is getting very difficult
Speaker 2: to even start those conversations without saying, like, if we
Speaker 2: can't settle on basic human rights, then we really gotta
Speaker 2: take several steps back just to get there. And it's
Speaker 2: hard to explain something like that to somebody.
Speaker 1: It's tough to explain. And is this podcast gonna get political?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Probably. I'm not even gonna lie because you know what,
Speaker 1: you know what this is. It's auso on the side.
Speaker 1: It's all the stuff I get to do here in
Speaker 1: my studio and or my control that we don't do
Speaker 1: on the air.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you, honestly, have you how got about this?
Speaker 3: Let me take a second.
Speaker 1: Are you gonna say something mean to me?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Wait, are you gonna say something nice to me?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: I'll take all the seconds you need.
Speaker 2: You are very politically passionate. Is that what you would say? Passionate? Politically?
Speaker 1: Maybe?
Speaker 2: How do I? I don't even know what I would say,
Speaker 2: but you don't. Yes, but you do have voice that
Speaker 2: you want to use more. And I think instead of
Speaker 2: stifling it and not trying to come out and say
Speaker 2: how you really feel, like that would be more of
Speaker 2: a harm than actually saying what you feel and maybe
Speaker 2: even changing a few minds and hearts.
Speaker 1: Maybe. I had a friend asking the other day if
Speaker 1: it was really difficult because of these jobs to have
Speaker 1: an opinion about everything, especially you know, stupid celebrity news.
Speaker 1: He's like, do you actually care do you really talk
Speaker 1: about these things? And like, do I actually care about it?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: I don't care what a celebrity wants to do with
Speaker 1: their lives and themselves. Good, go live your life. I
Speaker 1: think what's much harder is to have an opinion and
Speaker 1: not be able.
Speaker 2: To say it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a way way tougher thing in this business
Speaker 1: and entertainment and probably a lot of businesses than caring
Speaker 1: about stupid celebrity. So it's harder to not say the
Speaker 1: things that are in your heart. So prepare yourselves.
Speaker 2: This could get bumpy, yes, but be open for conversation.
Speaker 2: Don't just come control. Don't just be so quick to
Speaker 2: be as both parties are want to do triggered by
Speaker 2: something or calling them out. Actually listen, digest it. If
Speaker 2: you think there's an alternative fact that maybe someone's not hearing,
Speaker 2: present it, but that's.
Speaker 1: Not a thing. Alternative fact.
Speaker 2: Well, if you're coming with a quote unquote research.
Speaker 1: Okay, if you an alternate opinion, that is the thing. Yes,
Speaker 1: an alternate fact does not exist. They continue apologies.
Speaker 2: One plus one does equal to this guy is blue.
Speaker 2: There is an alternative fact to that.
Speaker 1: Graveity Israel. It is on earth.
Speaker 2: But yeah, think about it. Don't just be so quick
Speaker 2: to be angry, and who knows, maybe you'll learn a
Speaker 2: thing or two.
Speaker 1: And that was your boy Andrew, who you can find
Speaker 1: on social media at Andrew Bug only on Instagram because
Speaker 1: he will not dabble in anything else.
Speaker 2: I got rid of Twitter the minute Elon went crazy.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you it's live over there right now,
Speaker 1: going do.
Speaker 2: I'm so happy I'm away from the sesspool and.
Speaker 1: I am at Baby Hot Sauce on Twitter, even though
Speaker 1: I guess we call it x now and I never
Speaker 1: really know X or tweet whatever.
Speaker 2: I would never dead name someone, but I'm a dead named.
Speaker 1: Twitter, okay, and on Instagram at Baby Hot Sauce. Come
Speaker 1: holler and uh. We love you and we're always open
Speaker 1: to suggestions. If there's stuff you want us to talk about,
Speaker 1: please send it our way. Yes, yeah, okay, say by
Speaker 1: it until next time, Andrew.
Speaker 2: Hey, buye until next time, Andrew