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Speaker 1: What's up. It's sauce on the side. I'm Gandhi and

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Speaker 1: today we have an interesting episode ahead. But before we

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Speaker 1: get to.

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Speaker 2: That, Hello Andrew, Oh, Hello Gandhi.

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Speaker 1: How are you? I'm great?

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Speaker 2: How are you great?

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Speaker 1: Why do you sound so happy? You sounded very menacing

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Speaker 1: to start? What do you mean, hello, Gandhi?

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm not trying to be menacing. It just iss

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Speaker 2: for you.

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Speaker 1: Not a good look.

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Speaker 2: So who do you have on today?

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Speaker 1: Today? I have the Captain aka Kyle Creek. You might

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Speaker 1: know him on Instagram as are you ready s g

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Speaker 1: R st K. I still haven't figured out what that means,

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Speaker 1: and I hope I remember to ask him. But he's

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Speaker 1: a good time. He has a lot of stuff to say,

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Speaker 1: a lot of big thoughts, and he's just kind of

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Speaker 1: like a fun guy. So I said, we just get

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Speaker 1: to it.

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Speaker 2: Love that.

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Speaker 1: Are we still going by the Captain?

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Speaker 3: I mean a lot of people know me by it,

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Speaker 3: so it's kind of stuck. But I don't really use

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Speaker 3: it that much anymore. I prefer people call me Kyle.

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Speaker 3: I mean, let's be honest, it's not the worst nickname.

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Speaker 1: You also are an author. You have a lot of books.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, writer, I don't consider myself an author. I consider

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Speaker 3: myself a writer. I think the way I explain to

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Speaker 3: people's writers write about the world as it is, and

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Speaker 3: authors create worlds, and so until I do a novel,

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Speaker 3: I don't consider myself an author. And it's kind of

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Speaker 3: my way of just I don't know, pain and respect

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Speaker 3: to people that have done that, because it is so

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Speaker 3: difficult to write that style of the book.

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Speaker 1: Do you think you'll ever do that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's kind of where I'm going now with my career.

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Speaker 3: And we were just talking before this. I mean, my

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Speaker 3: goal for the longest time has been to leave social media.

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Speaker 3: I mean I used to tell people back in probably

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Speaker 3: twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, when I was first starting to

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Speaker 3: get some notoriety online, I would tell people my goal

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Speaker 3: is to write a book a year and be left

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Speaker 3: the fuck alone. I'm at the point now where I

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Speaker 3: do use social media substantially less. I mean, I took

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Speaker 3: it off my phone in January of this year. I

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Speaker 3: don't even have it on my phone anymore. I haven't

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Speaker 3: been active on it for months, and it's been nice.

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Speaker 3: Why tired of it unfulfilling for the most part, and

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Speaker 3: I I kind of feel like social media's became a

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Speaker 3: lot more of a healthscape in the past few years.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think social media used to be pretty

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Speaker 3: fun for me. I used to enjoy it. I thought

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Speaker 3: it was fairly challenging, and I liked trying to craft

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Speaker 3: messages that resonated but also you know, would would get shared.

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Speaker 3: I liked it. I thought it was you know, kind

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Speaker 3: of it's almost like a game at times. And once

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Speaker 3: they started putting algorithms in place and they started fucking

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Speaker 3: with people's reach, it just it became too mechanical for me,

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Speaker 3: you know, Rather than start doing like reels and start

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Speaker 3: doing like these stupid, choppy short videos that everyone's doing

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Speaker 3: now to get attention, that's just it's not me and

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Speaker 3: I can't bring myself to do it. So I'd rather

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Speaker 1: Well, you're lucky you have something to fall back on,

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Speaker 1: which it's not even a fallback. You started as a writer.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I have a day job. That's pretty

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Speaker 3: much been my whole career as an adult. Wasn't until

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Speaker 3: I got into advertising that I made good money as

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Speaker 3: a writer and on the side I didn't have much

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Speaker 3: of jokes that my clients would kind of say no

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Speaker 3: tweeting them instead, and they just kind of took off

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Speaker 3: and snowballed from there, and then I had this catch

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Speaker 3: persona was just me observing life and writing about it

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Speaker 3: experiencing it outside of my professional career, And that's really

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Speaker 3: what became, you know, the social media following that I have.

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Speaker 1: Now, how do you feel about the feedback that you

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Speaker 1: get from random people? Because that's actually for me, one

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Speaker 1: of the reasons I enjoyed following you is because you

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Speaker 1: say a lot of the things that I think, at

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Speaker 1: to craft it, and I would just retweet or repost

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Speaker 1: some of the things you said. But I know, based

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Speaker 1: on me reposting what people would respond to. How do

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Speaker 3: I used to try and do it intentionally. I used

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Speaker 3: to tell my frist starter. I used to Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 3: that's why I have instigator on my profile. I used

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Speaker 3: to tell my friends, I know I have a good

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Speaker 3: post when I lose more followers and I gain because

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Speaker 3: it hits a nerve. And then at some point I know,

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Speaker 3: you know, people will come back on the back end.

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Speaker 3: But I've had several people and follow me over the

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Speaker 3: years and then write me apologies and like, I don't know,

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Speaker 3: I don't know theyn follow me. I don't pay attention

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Speaker 3: you know I hadn't followed you two years ago because

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Speaker 3: it's something you said, And I just want to say

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Speaker 3: I came back and I thought about it, and you

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Speaker 3: were right. You want people to feel something. You want

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Speaker 3: people to laugh, you want people to be scared, you

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Speaker 3: want people to cry, like that's your goal as a writer.

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Speaker 3: And so I always figured if I elicited enough emotion

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Speaker 3: that someone felt like they had to unfollow me, that

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Speaker 3: was successful.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I must be so successful.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: First of all, who is the majority of your audience

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Speaker 3: I think it's like sixty forty primarily females. Oh okay,

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Speaker 3: I mean I used to rag on like dating practices.

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Speaker 3: That was kind of like my thing is. I would

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Speaker 3: just talk shit on all the dumb stuff people do dating.

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Speaker 3: I was always bashing on douchebags and you know, shit

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Speaker 1: Do you ever look back anything you've posted in cringe

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Speaker 3: All the time. I read my old books, Like people

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Speaker 3: and I'll read stuff I wrote and I'll be like, oh,

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Speaker 1: And quote so they're quoting you.

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Speaker 3: I I think it's uh. I think if you don't

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Speaker 3: it's a sign that you're not growing as a person.

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Speaker 3: Like I think everybody I know that is a good person,

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Speaker 3: who they were, And it's unavoidable, and I think that's

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Speaker 3: what prevents a lot of people from pursuing something they enjoy.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they're too afraid of criticism, they're too afraid

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Speaker 3: In ten years now, they look back in their life

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Speaker 3: It destroys people's ability to live, you know. It influences

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Speaker 3: people to break up with people they shouldn't break up with,

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Speaker 3: Like your friends get in your ears, or random straight

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Speaker 3: are talking to you about your relationship. You'll make choices

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Speaker 3: to placate an audience that honestly doesn't give a fuck

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Speaker 3: about you. I would love to see social media kind

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Speaker 3: of just fall off in our society. I actually think

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Speaker 3: it's been as much as it's helped my career and

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Speaker 3: someone who really has benefited from social media, I do

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Speaker 3: feel it's been a net negative for society as a whole,

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Speaker 3: oh for sure. And I think we would all be

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Speaker 1: People are always talking shit that are not in the arena.

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Speaker 1: They're in the seats watching you, and they're telling you

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Speaker 1: how you need to curate your content specifically for them,

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Speaker 1: which strives me insane, and I try, I try really

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Speaker 1: hard not to let that bother me. Every now and

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Speaker 1: then it dings me and I get annoyed. But for you,

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Speaker 1: having such a big following, has it ever affected you

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Speaker 3: Yeah? It has, Okay, I mean there is times when

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Speaker 3: I feel like I've lost touch or like sometimes I'll

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Speaker 1: So like, at the height of things going well for

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Speaker 3: Literally got my first major book deal and thirty days later.

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Speaker 3: It is probably when I was at like my peak

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Speaker 3: suicidal ideation. Wow, and I had you know what I'd

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Speaker 3: and so it just like I just didn't like myself.

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Speaker 3: I didn't like who I become. And It's part of

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Speaker 3: what's so refreshing now about not using social media is

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Speaker 3: I actually, for the first time feel like I'm making

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Speaker 3: and not having to be something I'm not. You know,

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Speaker 3: I had to really kind of adopt that post in

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Speaker 3: ghost philosophy where you just post and to leave. But

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Speaker 3: then I feel guilt because it's like, oh, people are

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Speaker 3: taking time to write these meaningful comments and I should

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Speaker 3: probably get back to them. And I used to tell

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Speaker 3: to tell myself, if someone's taking them time to write me,

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Speaker 3: I need to write them back. And that was that

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Speaker 3: destroyed my mental health. I was way way, way too

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Speaker 3: involved in Instagram. It became, you know, a huge part

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Speaker 3: not being relevant or the idea of losing what I'd

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Speaker 3: worked for, like scared the hell out of me. What

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Speaker 3: I'm doing now work wise is the work I've always

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Speaker 1: I feel like Instagram has created this very bizarre world

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Speaker 1: where everybody cares what something looks like and not what

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Speaker 1: it actually feels like. It has ruined dating. Diamond here,

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Speaker 1: who never wants to talk about her dating life, So

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Speaker 1: we're not going to talk about your dating life. But

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Speaker 1: skoot over to a microphone real quick.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's rip her apart. Let's rip it.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no. I just laugh at Diamond because I

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Speaker 3: It's a waste of your energy. It really is a

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Speaker 3: I think it is incredibly fucking silly, and you're going

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, No, it's very easy.

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Speaker 4: No, well, dating is. I mean they say it all

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Speaker 3: The thing is like that shit's become so normalized with

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Speaker 1: It was a cyber bully.

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Speaker 3: That was a cyber bully for calling these accounts out.

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Speaker 3: And that's the only time I've ever had my account

441
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Speaker 3: shut off. And then I had another time where I

442
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Speaker 3: got into a beef with a comedian who had posted

443
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Speaker 3: something of mine, and he he posted something of mine

444
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Speaker 3: and then people were writing comments like saying, oh, I

445
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Speaker 3: love this, this is so great, and the way he

446
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Speaker 3: was responding, he was taking credit for it, like he

447
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Speaker 3: created it. And I was like, I was sitting there

448
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Speaker 3: and I texted one of my buddies and I was like,

449
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Speaker 3: watch it. I'm about to post in ten minutes and

450
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Speaker 3: it's still a my Instagram. It was Dane Cook, and

451
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Speaker 3: so I.

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Speaker 1: Dane Cook is still doing comedy, yes, is Yeah, that's

453
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Speaker 1: the most shocking part of this whole thing, right, So.

454
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Speaker 3: I wrote, like this big, long thing just kind of,

455
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Speaker 3: you know, ripping into him for stealing. And he's like

456
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Speaker 3: a known joke thief. I know a lot of comedians

457
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Speaker 3: have actually had problems with him. So I ripped him

458
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Speaker 3: apart and then I think I think he might have

459
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Speaker 3: reported or someone else did. But I almost got my

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Speaker 3: account shut down for that too, same things cyber bowling.

461
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Speaker 3: But that's the only time I've really had issues online.

462
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Speaker 3: I've watched countless celebrities rip my shit off, and I've

463
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Speaker 3: contacted some of them and they've been good about it.

464
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Speaker 3: Like I've contacted some of them and said, hey, I

465
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Speaker 3: don't know if someone at your team, you know, screenshot

466
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Speaker 3: of that for you, but I wrote that, and they'll

467
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Speaker 3: be good and they'll credit me, and some of them

468
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Speaker 3: actually become friends of mine. I actually become friends with

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Speaker 3: some of them strictly because they ripped my shit off

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Speaker 3: and then I wrote them to call them out. And

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Speaker 3: I've usually I've usually always tried sending a DM to

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Speaker 3: be like, you know, listen, I know the internet shit

473
00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:54,399
Speaker 3: gets ripped off all the time. You probably didn't know that.

474
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Speaker 3: But I wrote this, and it's like fifty to fifty.

475
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Speaker 3: Some of them were really cool about it, and some

476
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Speaker 3: of them like fuck you, and they blocked me in immediately.

477
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Speaker 3: So I've been blocked by a lot of big accounts

478
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Speaker 3: just for calling them out for that.

479
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Speaker 1: Aren't like celebrity accounts, not.

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Speaker 3: Celebrities, but just like big meme accounts. I think what

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Speaker 3: blows my mind about that is the fact that people

482
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Speaker 3: think it's okay to do it.

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Speaker 1: It's wild. And not only do people think it's okay

484
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Speaker 1: to just steal content left and right. It happens to

485
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Speaker 1: us all the time. We will say something on the

486
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Speaker 1: show and the next day it's a meme and people

487
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Speaker 1: are just posting that, like we didn't just say it,

488
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Speaker 1: and it's radio so I can't go back and take

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Speaker 1: a screenshot of it.

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Speaker 3: You know. I want to talk about social media being

491
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Speaker 3: a net negative. I mean, there's the mental health aspect

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Speaker 3: of it, but also I just think it's really crushed

493
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Speaker 3: people's critical thinking. It used to be where you take

494
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Speaker 3: an information and you form your own thought about it,

495
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Speaker 3: and now, instead of forming the thought, you just take

496
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Speaker 3: the information and you don't think about it. I just

497
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Speaker 3: think it's lost a lot of meaning.

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Speaker 1: I could see that. I want to go back to

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Speaker 1: the celebrity part of what you were talking about, because

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Speaker 1: you started off, like you said, copywriting, then getting into advertising,

501
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Speaker 1: then your social media account blows up, and now you're

502
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Speaker 1: interacting with celebrities. Do you ever take a step back

503
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Speaker 1: and think this this is bizarre?

504
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Do you think this is exactly the way I thought

506
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Speaker 1: this was gonna come no.

507
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Speaker 3: Very very weird. I have. I have friends of mine

508
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Speaker 3: now that I remember watching in movies when I was

509
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Speaker 3: a kid, and like I remember, like I'll be at

510
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Speaker 3: dinner with them and we become a good friends and

511
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Speaker 3: I'll be like, man, I'm read being in high school,

512
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Speaker 3: like watching you in the movie and it was just

513
00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,280
Speaker 3: so weird. Like, whether you choose to believe in the

514
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Speaker 3: law of attraction or not, you should believe that you

515
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Speaker 3: can change your life. You could have a whole podcast

516
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Speaker 3: on just the way. I think victim culture has taken

517
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Speaker 3: over society too.

518
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Speaker 1: You know we talk about that all the time.

519
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like it's like who can have the shittier life? Right,

520
00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,880
Speaker 3: Like who can sell, you know, tell the saddest story.

521
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Speaker 1: And I understand, like some people who have great lives

522
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Speaker 1: really want to be a press and they really want

523
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Speaker 1: to feel like they're struggling. Just enjoy it. Enjoy your

524
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Speaker 1: great life. That's wonderful.

525
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Speaker 3: Or you'll have someone who genuinely is having a really

526
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Speaker 3: hard time and they decide to finally be vulnerable and

527
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Speaker 3: share it. And so they share it and they get

528
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Speaker 3: a ton of feedback, and now they're addicted to this

529
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Speaker 3: feedback loop. They're like, hey, I told a story about

530
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Speaker 3: my boyfriend cheating on me and how it broke me,

531
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Speaker 3: and look at many comments I got, and then they

532
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Speaker 3: lean into that, Okay, I'm just gonna tell more sad stories.

533
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Speaker 3: The victim mentality is probably probably the most detrimental thing

534
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Speaker 3: you can do to your life or anyone around you,

535
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Speaker 3: Like it's so easy to think everything's bad when you're

536
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Speaker 3: stuck in that loop.

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Speaker 1: It definitely is. What do you think about cancel culture?

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Speaker 3: I think you have to allow yourself to be canceled.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I've been saying this for a long time. I don't

541
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Speaker 1: really believe it exists.

542
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Speaker 3: I believe it exists in the sense that people try

543
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Speaker 3: to do it, which they.

544
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Speaker 1: Try, but only if you acquiesce does it actually happen.

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Speaker 1: If you just keep saying like, oh, I go fuck yourself.

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Speaker 3: I believe it's real, but I believe you. I believe

547
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Speaker 3: it's real in the sense that people attempt to do it,

548
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Speaker 3: and I think it's bullshit. But at the same time,

549
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Speaker 3: I think you have to choose to be canceled, Like

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Speaker 3: I actually have that in the book speech therapy, like

551
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Speaker 3: what to what to do if you're canceled?

552
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Speaker 1: Did you have you been canceled?

553
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Speaker 3: I've had people try all the time. Like I've said

554
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Speaker 3: plenty offensive things that people have tried to cancel me for.

555
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Speaker 3: And one of my favorite things is I love watching

556
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Speaker 3: people double down.

557
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Speaker 1: I love I love too, I tell time and all

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Speaker 1: the time. I love when people are like, no, I'm

559
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Speaker 1: not sorry.

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Speaker 3: That's my favorite thing about Dave Chappelle is I love

561
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Speaker 3: watching someone who is that intelligent and clever and good

562
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Speaker 3: at what they do double down.

563
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Speaker 1: I know in this business that we're in, people are

564
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Speaker 1: so worried about it all the time, and I say,

565
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Speaker 1: just say what you have to say. People are gonna

566
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Speaker 1: get over it. Especially with social media moving at the

567
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Speaker 1: speed that it does right now, people forget you don't

568
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Speaker 1: ever remember.

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Speaker 3: Seventy two hour rule. Yeah, like in seventy two hours,

570
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Speaker 3: they'll be pissed about something else.

571
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Speaker 1: Exactly, and you can just move on with your life

572
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Speaker 1: and nobody cares anymore, which is great and terrible at

573
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Speaker 1: the same time. I'm very interested, and we can do

574
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Speaker 1: this off the air, because I'm sure you don't want

575
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Speaker 1: to like shit on anybody, but I really want to

576
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Speaker 1: hear the rest of your ja schetty stuff, because when

577
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Speaker 1: I tell you.

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Speaker 3: I'll shoot on Jay Shatty all day. I have no

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Speaker 3: I have I have I I have no problem calling

580
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Speaker 3: out people that are plagiarists.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so it's the plagiarism that bothers you, not the other.

582
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Speaker 3: I probably don't know enough about the other stuff, Okay,

583
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Speaker 3: be honest. I've seen it happen where and this was like,

584
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Speaker 3: you know, when he was just getting his come up

585
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Speaker 3: as a career. I've seen posts where he just puts

586
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Speaker 3: his name on word for words stuff other people have written.

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Speaker 3: Plagiarism to me, when you put your name on something

588
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Speaker 3: and you claim you've done it is like a kin

589
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Speaker 3: to like murder.

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Speaker 1: You would send someone to death for plagiarism.

591
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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, we need to go back to Babylonian law

592
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Speaker 3: and be chopping off hands and shit, because I think

593
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Speaker 3: people would actually be a lot. And I always tell

594
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Speaker 3: people this, like I missed the old the Wild West,

595
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Speaker 3: when someone cheated at a game of cards and you

596
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Speaker 3: could take him on the street and shoot them with

597
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Speaker 3: a revolver. Like I missed the fact that you could

598
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Speaker 3: be like all right, high noon, you just cheated. I

599
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Speaker 3: watched you cheated this hand of cards. High noon, We're

600
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Speaker 3: gonna go out there and we're gonna have a problem

601
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Speaker 3: with it, like.

602
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Speaker 1: An you want to bring back the duel?

603
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Speaker 3: Yes, okay, I know problem if if I think if

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Speaker 3: two grown men today want a duel, they should be

605
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Speaker 3: allowed to. And I know there's states that allow it's

606
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Speaker 3: called mutual combat. I know Texas is one of them.

607
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Speaker 1: Of course, Texas one of them.

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Speaker 3: If you go up to a cap up in Texas

609
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Speaker 3: and you stay me and this individual, if agreed to

610
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 3: mutual combat, we're gonna fight. The cop won't do anything.

611
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 3: He'll let you, guys fight it out.

612
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Speaker 1: The cop will let you to pull out a gun

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Speaker 1: and shoot at each other.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how far it'll go, but he'll let

615
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Speaker 3: They'll let you fight.

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Speaker 1: But at the very least like fists.

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Speaker 3: They'll let you fight, fly, don't let Yeah, they'll let

618
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Speaker 3: you fight and they won't stop it. How do you

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Speaker 3: know this because it's a mutual combat law.

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Speaker 1: Have you done this?

621
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Speaker 3: No? But I respect it, and I'm telling you, like

622
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Speaker 3: if you wanted a Babylonian law and chop people's thumbs off,

623
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Speaker 3: it's probably where it should start. So you can no longer

624
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Speaker 3: use your smartphone like i'd before it. Man, I would

625
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Speaker 3: be one hundred percent for that as a forflagiarizing people online.

626
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Speaker 1: So please know when somebody steals from Kyle Creek, he

627
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Speaker 1: thinks about chopping off your thumb.

628
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Speaker 3: Yes, and I would maybe shooting you. I would support

629
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Speaker 3: that in a court proceeding, for sure.

630
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Speaker 1: Listen, they think that I'm insane because of a lot

631
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Speaker 1: of the way that I feel about stuff. Any think

632
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Speaker 1: I'm too passionate.

633
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Speaker 3: Well, you know the French are still using a guillotine

634
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Speaker 3: to like the seventies. No, I did not know that

635
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Speaker 3: the last used to the guillotine in France, I think

636
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Speaker 3: was nineteen seventy seven. So like over insane, Like over

637
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,160
Speaker 3: here in America it was all like flower power and hippies,

638
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,199
Speaker 3: and over in France it was like bag gettes and

639
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 3: bloody heads, like and there's a photo of it. It

640
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 3: was like it was a convicted murderer. And there's a

641
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Speaker 3: photo of a medieval guillotine just like you would imagine

642
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 3: a guillotine would look. And there's a crowd of people

643
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Speaker 3: standing around watching this guy gaguillotine in the seventies.

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Speaker 1: That's psychotic, that's insane. But you you're all about it,

645
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Speaker 1: you want to bring it back.

646
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Speaker 3: I think I think it changes people's characters.

647
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Speaker 1: You're into like chopping off body parts, heads, thumbs.

648
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Speaker 3: If it holds people to a higher standard, yes, And

649
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 3: I kind of feel like that's why society is the

650
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Speaker 3: way it is. There's no there's no repercussions for people anymore.

651
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Speaker 3: Like people are getting off with doing like heinous, awful,

652
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Speaker 3: terrible crimes and they're getting out. I mean, there's a

653
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Speaker 3: reason why when you used to sail into a port

654
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 3: as a pirate, they had like pirates hanging out that

655
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Speaker 3: port to tell you, like, we don't we don't tolerate

656
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Speaker 3: that shit here. And I feel like a lot of

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Speaker 3: society I went back that you would only have to

658
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Speaker 3: go back to it for literally like five days. If

659
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Speaker 3: you did like, if you did for like five days.

660
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Speaker 1: Dead bodies, people that deserve it.

661
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Speaker 3: Okay, if you do that for like five days, it

662
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 3: would be enough for people to be like, oh fuck,

663
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Speaker 3: they're serious.

664
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Speaker 1: I don't disagree with that. Actually, I just want to

665
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Speaker 1: know what all of the hangable offenses are because you're

666
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Speaker 1: saying plagiarism, I'm not really sure. Oh okay, So thumbs

667
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,679
Speaker 1: off for plagiarism. What's the hangable offense?

668
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Speaker 3: Uh, you know, murder, rape, anything involving kids like that

669
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 3: kind of stuff. I mean, all day, string them up. Okay,

670
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Speaker 3: so I got nothing wrong with that.

671
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Speaker 1: If you can build society the way that you want

672
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 1: it to be built, you're going to bring back death

673
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: public death for five days.

674
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Speaker 3: I'd be like Vlad the Impaler, but with better style.

675
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 1: Oh really, well, how would your style be better?

676
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 3: You know, a nice Victorian code or something.

677
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 1: Listen, I have an idea. I bring this up in

678
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Speaker 1: every podcast, almost every podcast. I want to start a

679
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 1: podcast called Can I Touch It? And I just suit

680
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 1: up and whatever I need to suit up in, and

681
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Speaker 1: I try to touch all the animals that in my

682
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Speaker 1: head I think I'd be able to touch because they

683
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 1: will like feel that I'm a good person and they

684
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Speaker 1: won't attack me.

685
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 3: Is that a podcast or like it's more like a YouTube.

686
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 1: It will be both. Yeah, it would be like a

687
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 1: recorded You could definitely.

688
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 3: Watch you up and just hear you scream.

689
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I'm telling you, I don't think I will scream.

690
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,199
Speaker 1: I think we will get along very well. I just

691
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Speaker 1: start with a platypus. Okay, I think I could touch

692
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 1: a platypus I think would be okay. I know they

693
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Speaker 1: have a little bit of poison.

694
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, a little poisonous spurs and yeah.

695
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: And they're the best animal ever.

696
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 3: I love blooming octopus.

697
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: So I hear I saw a lady that had one.

698
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 3: Honor wearing a glove or are you doing a bare handed.

699
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: I would have to wear a glove because it will

700
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Speaker 1: be very danger because it'll be very short lived if

701
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 1: I don't have a glove.

702
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 3: I think you're only allowed to wear a glove on animals.

703
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: You don't care about people's fingers. We've established.

704
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, like the danger has to be there, though,

705
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 3: Like you could wear a glove if you're touching a bear,

706
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 3: because the danger is still there, right because a bear

707
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 3: doesn't matter. It can rip your arm off. But if

708
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 3: you're wearing a glove to touch a blooming octopus, that

709
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 3: defeats the purpose.

710
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Speaker 1: But a blue wearing octopus could poison me, So I mean.

711
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 3: Part of it, that's the danger part of it.

712
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 1: So the company is not behind me on this. I've

713
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 1: really tried, but I've already started. I've started touching all

714
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Speaker 1: the things I could possibly touch.

715
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Speaker 3: What you just go to the zoo here and touch things.

716
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 1: No, but you can. Did you know you can? You

717
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: can get behind the scenes with a lot of the

718
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 1: zoo stuff. So penguins you can't touch them. I got

719
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: bitten by a penguin. It was the worst bite I

720
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Speaker 1: think I've ever had in my entire life.

721
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Speaker 3: That's crazy.

722
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Speaker 1: Monkeys, fifty to fifty monkeys are sketchy.

723
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Speaker 3: Monkey scare me. I've never understood why anyone won a

724
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Speaker 3: monkey as a pet.

725
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Speaker 1: I understand it. I would never understand.

726
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 3: Oh, I think I think monkeys are.

727
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,439
Speaker 1: Creepy because they're like little humans.

728
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they're like little humans that are like terrible

729
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 3: little humans.

730
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Speaker 1: Like they're like toddlers.

731
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 3: No, like they're worse because a toddler doesn't have that

732
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 3: kind of strength or teeth. It's like, it's like everything

733
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Speaker 3: you would not want your child to be is what.

734
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 3: A monkey is stronger than you as sharp teeth, they're

735
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 3: fucking crazy, They're fast, like everything you don't want your

736
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 3: child to become. That's why I'm neuriused why you have

737
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 3: monkey as a pet. It's like purposely being like I

738
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Speaker 3: want the most ill behaved, horrible child, but I also

739
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 3: wann't to have enough strength to rip me in half,

740
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 3: and then you get a pet monkey. I've never understood it.

741
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 3: It's stupid.

742
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: Specifically chimpanzees, those were the tough. I got bitten by

743
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Speaker 1: a monkey. The monkey had no teeth. It was one

744
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 1: of the worst bruises I've ever had in my life.

745
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: It was so bad. It was a lump in my

746
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Speaker 1: thigh for probably three or four weeks.

747
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 3: Because it went for it. Humans will pull back a

748
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 3: bit because, like we kind of know them pain were

749
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Speaker 3: inflicted by animals, don't They don't care.

750
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, that monkey was like, please go fuck yourself. Horseshoe

751
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: crabs were good, Sharks were good, fox were good.

752
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 3: Snakes.

753
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: I've touched a lot of snakes.

754
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Speaker 3: Like poisonous ones.

755
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 1: No, I haven't touch a poisonous one.

756
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 2: Yea.

757
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: I have a snake guy, so I think he'll let

758
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Speaker 1: me come.

759
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 3: There's a show where these guys just let like animals

760
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 3: sting and bite them. I had camera what it's called.

761
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: I've seen these guys before because they've gotten it from

762
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: snakes and been and been completely and.

763
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 3: They'll let like these giant hornets, or they'll they'll let

764
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 3: like these really poisonous spiders like to let like a

765
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 3: black widow bite them. It's called Kings of Pain. And

766
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 3: then they rate it on like a scale and they

767
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 3: let all sorts of just like really toxic, nasty insects

768
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Speaker 3: by them.

769
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Speaker 1: They only had two seasons. I wonder why are they alive?

770
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: Let's see, Yeah, we had We have a friend who's

771
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: an African safari tour guide and he said the thing

772
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Speaker 1: that scares him more than anything, more than the lions,

773
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: the hyenas, panthers, leopards, whatever it is, he's the black

774
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 1: mamba is the scariest thing you'll ever encounter.

775
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Speaker 3: That's super super fast and crawly toxic.

776
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Speaker 1: I believe I could touch it that I would watch,

777
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: you would watch me die.

778
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 3: Yes, that's the whole point of that show.

779
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: I'm just saying someone's gonna steal this at some point

780
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: because I talked about as.

781
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 3: To say, Kings of Pain, I think kind of tried

782
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 3: to do that. But the reason it's interesting because that

783
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 3: you have to have the danger. It has to be dangerous.

784
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: I think it would be dangerous, But.

785
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 3: Nothing dangerous about touching some of these animals with the

786
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 3: glove on.

787
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: Okay, so some of them we won't wear the glove,

788
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 1: but if my hand gets bitten off in the first round,

789
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: Like it's just going to kill the season.

790
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 3: But everyone's going to watch that episode, and.

791
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: Thank god, we'd have one strong viral episode.

792
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 3: Just go die, put that on YouTube, get some ad revenue.

793
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 3: You get a couple million views. You're good.

794
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 1: So your world so far. We are bringing back the guillotine. Yes,

795
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 1: we're bringing back hanging people in public for five days.

796
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all you need.

797
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: That's a duel.

798
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, duels for sure if two people agree on.

799
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: For sure, and chopping off people's fingers for plagiarism.

800
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, thumbs where else? I think that's probably a good start,

801
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 3: a good start.

802
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's definitely wod You know what I

803
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: think we should do. I think we should allow people

804
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: and this would really help the dairy industry too, specifically

805
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: egg farmers. We should allow people to get one egg

806
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: a day, and if someone pisses you off, whatever they

807
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: piss you off for, you can throw one egg a day.

808
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 1: You only get one, so you have to be really

809
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: discerning about whether you want to release that egg or not.

810
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: And if you save them all up for a week

811
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: and someone really pisses you off, you could throw all

812
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: seven but I think that if we sort of police

813
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: society that way, or you just can't walk around being

814
00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: a douchebag because you might get hit with an egg,

815
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: people would up right differently.

816
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 3: Well, it used to be like that where like, you know,

817
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 3: people just punch you in the mouth. I mean, Mike

818
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 3: Tyson has that famous quote where he says, you know,

819
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 3: the problem is like people don't get punched in the

820
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 3: mouth anymore.

821
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: So would you bring back a punch of the mouth

822
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: as well?

823
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 3: Dude? If you're talking shit to someone and you get

824
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 3: punched in the mouth and you deserved it, I'm all

825
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 3: for that.

826
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: Men and women equal opportunity.

827
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 3: I think depends on the level of what's being said.

828
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: So what could what could a woman say to you

829
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: to deserve a punch in the mouth?

830
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 3: To me, yeah, nothing, I mean because I I don't

831
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,479
Speaker 3: know that a woman could get under my skin in

832
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 3: that way.

833
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: Why is that?

834
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 3: Because I just have like a different I view it differently.

835
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Speaker 1: Do you value us less?

836
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 3: No? I think I just view it as I view

837
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 3: men with a different kind of level of like the

838
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 3: character I expect from them. I guess, Okay, it's the

839
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 3: same reason why I say, like two men dueling and like,

840
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 3: you know, a game of cards. It's like I just

841
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 3: kind of feel like I hold men to this certain

842
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,719
Speaker 3: standard that I feel like society is lost. I would expect,

843
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 3: you know, men to behave a certain way, but you.

844
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: Expect women to just be crazy, you expect that.

845
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 3: I'm way more forgiving of it.

846
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: Is it because we're smaller? Why you more forgiving?

847
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 3: I think it's just me being polite. I think I

848
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 3: think I think it's a way. I think just it's

849
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 3: a way, like I think, I really do think it's

850
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 3: just it's like a polite thing to do. It's because

851
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 3: I don't consider it as much of a threat as

852
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 3: I would like. So if a man is trying to

853
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 3: get aggressive with me, like I know, there's like certain

854
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 3: things that are going to be said, or like there's

855
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 3: a certain like repercussion that's likely to happen unless I mean,

856
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 3: have you seen the movie swim Fan.

857
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, a long time ago, The Stalker Girl that you

858
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: Ain't Mad?

859
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 3: Why that's a hard movie to watch because that was

860
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 3: like super vindictive kind of stuff.

861
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 1: I love that swim Fan is your trigger.

862
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 3: Dude, you should watch that movie. That lady is like

863
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 3: she was like that's like straight up psychologic like trying

864
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 3: to ruin someone's life.

865
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: Kind of did they ever date? Was there like a

866
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: thing I don't remember, you just remember it was so

867
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: mad that she's the girl.

868
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Speaker 3: That I remember watched it in high school and being like,

869
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 3: whoa this this like makes me mad to watch.

870
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Speaker 1: Do you ever? Do you ever have any encounters with

871
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: like stalker like people off?

872
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 3: But again, it's not something that's really bothered me.

873
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 1: And yeah, this is you're a big guy, like soccer.

874
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: Is that that bothers me?

875
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 3: I mean some if some lady pulled a gun on me,

876
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 3: I mean, no whole are barred at that point. But

877
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 3: I do think probably some of it comes from the

878
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,719
Speaker 3: fact that I'm fairly confident, like my size, and then

879
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 3: again it just comes down to the level of respect.

880
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 3: And I think I have a pretty good sense of

881
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 3: when people are trying to push my buttons too, and

882
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 3: I know that a lot of times people want a

883
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 3: certain reaction.

884
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,760
Speaker 1: And so it's kind of like in person or online.

885
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 3: In person too, like really like I've steered away from

886
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 3: a lot of like when I was younger, you know,

887
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 3: going on Utah. I mean there's a lot of bar

888
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 3: fights that happen.

889
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,280
Speaker 1: In like a lot of shit talkers in Utah.

890
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's like country bar kind of stuff, Okay,

891
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 3: I mean it's a lot of country boys at some

892
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 3: of those places.

893
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: I don't go to country bars, and so.

894
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 3: Like I kind of always knew when like they were

895
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 3: trying to start a fight, and I was like, that's

896
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 3: the reaction they want. So at that point's like you

897
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 3: do the opposite thing and it kind of irritates them more.

898
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,720
Speaker 1: So your world is shaping up to be a place

899
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: of I guess we would say violence.

900
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 3: It's a place of respect.

901
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 1: It's a place of respect, and when there's no respect violence.

902
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:50,439
Speaker 3: It worked for a long time.

903
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: I'm on board with this for the most part. I

904
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,280
Speaker 1: think I'm on board with it, and now it doesn't anymore, saying.

905
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 3: A lot of countries were founded on that kind of stuff.

906
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 3: I joke about things like cutting people's thumb off. But

907
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 3: then part of me is like it holds people to

908
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 3: a level. It holds people, It holds people to a

909
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 3: level that I think it ultimately creates more self respect.

910
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 3: And I just think a lot of people have gotten

911
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 3: away with too much. I think people are too comfortable

912
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 3: talking shit on other people. I think people are too

913
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 3: comfortable judging others. I think people are too comfortable insulting others.

914
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 3: I think people are too comfortable meddling in other people's lives.

915
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,879
Speaker 3: I feel that's the biggest drain social media has had

916
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 3: on society.

917
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 1: Okay, so then I will I'll leave our audience with

918
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,720
Speaker 1: the answer to this question. Through everything, through your journey

919
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 1: and what you've been doing, are you happy right now?

920
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 3: No?

921
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: What would you like to be different?

922
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 3: I do think there's things in my life I need

923
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 3: to improve. I think my relationship. I think I'm on

924
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 3: a good path towards fatherhood. I do think I can

925
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 3: be a better father. And there's a lot that I

926
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,760
Speaker 3: want to accomplish in my career that I've yet to accomplish.

927
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 3: And I think one of my biggest issues is I

928
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 3: struggle with being happy than now. And I've realized that

929
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 3: about myself because I'm very gold driven. I achieved something

930
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 3: that I'm just like, what's next, What's next? And so

931
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 3: probably one of the things that I know that I

932
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 3: have really sucked at in my life is celebrating my wins.

933
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 3: Like when some good happens, I don't really celebrate it.

934
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 3: I just I moved to the next thing, and it's

935
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 3: something that I'm actively trying to get better at. You know,

936
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 3: I feel like I feel like a lot of my

937
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 3: success has come from the fact that I'm never satisfied.

938
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 3: But at the same time that has also caused probably

939
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 3: some of my greatest pain in life. And so it's

940
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 3: it's something I'm aware that I need to work on

941
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 3: and I don't. I'm not gonna lie to someone and

942
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 3: tell them that I don't, because I know I do.

943
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 3: I know I struggle with that.

944
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,760
Speaker 1: Has writing these books been therapy for you as well?

945
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: While you give people advice, most.

946
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 3: Of the stuff I write is advice to myself.

947
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: You're talking to yourself.

948
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, most of the stuff, and I've said this before,

949
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 3: most of the stuff I write is things that I

950
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 3: need to hear or things that I needed to hear

951
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 3: at times like I'll look back and be like, man,

952
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 3: if I would have known this six months ago, it

953
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 3: would have made that situation easier. That's also kind of

954
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 3: why I feel like so much responsibility for what I write.

955
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 3: And it's the reason why like I'm so against like

956
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,919
Speaker 3: sponsored ads and kind of selling out. Is I need

957
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 3: my work as much as other people need my work

958
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,720
Speaker 3: because I feel lost when I don't write, and writing

959
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 3: forces me into this state of introspection that I wouldn't

960
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 3: have otherwise, because when I sit down and I think, Okay,

961
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,879
Speaker 3: what am I going to write about today? Ninety five

962
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 3: percent of the time, it's what am I currently feeling? Okay, Like,

963
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 3: what am I dealing with right now? Particularly with what

964
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 3: I've done with my substack the past few weeks, you know,

965
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 3: I started kind of shifting my substack to things that

966
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 3: are current on my mind, what am I currently struggling with,

967
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 3: And a lot of it's me processing it and coming

968
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 3: to terms of it, or it's me giving myself the

969
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 3: advice that I know I need at the time.

970
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 1: So I people want to find your books? Where can

971
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 1: they find them?

972
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 3: Amazon is where they're all available. If you search Kyle

973
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 3: Kreek as a Captain, or you can search like any

974
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 3: of the titles, if you search like speech Therapy or

975
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 3: fucking History. I mean, it'll come up. And then my

976
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 3: Amazon pages there that has everything.

977
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: And you want them to get it now because you

978
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: just sold one of these.

979
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 3: I want them to definitely buy Speech Therapy now while

980
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 3: it's a self published book, because it's money directly in

981
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 3: my pocket, and I need some goats and that's my

982
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 3: goat fund.

983
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: A lot of questions about these goats, but okay, well,

984
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: thank you so much. I really appreciate it. Thanks for

985
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: spinning so much time with me. And I'm sure we'll

986
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 1: see you again when you come back through New York.

987
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,399
Speaker 1: All right, Kyle Creek, thank you.

988
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 3: So.

989
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 1: Kyle was awesome. Love him for coming in. He's a

990
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 1: good time. I feel like it would be nice to

991
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: have him back. In light of all of the things

992
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: that have happened over the last week or two.

993
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:49,280
Speaker 2: It's insane that we have lived through a presidential assassination attempt,

994
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 2: a Y two K bug basically, and then a president

995
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 2: dropping out, all in one week.

996
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: It's insanity if you think about just our lifetimes as millennials. Yes,

997
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 1: what we've done through, it's a miracle that we're so

998
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,720
Speaker 1: well preserved and we look young. It's crazy.

999
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 2: I just want like a pause on unprecedented events, right,

1000
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 2: Can we make them presidented again?

1001
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: For the No. I don't want any of this to

1002
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: be precedented, none of it. I am sick of it.

1003
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: I'm tired of just being like, huh.

1004
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 2: It's it's like you're trying not to doom scroll, but

1005
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 2: at the same time, it's like then you feel uninformed,

1006
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,879
Speaker 2: and then being uninformed, it's like that's such a faux pas,

1007
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 2: especially nowadays. But you really do need to carve out

1008
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 2: some time to just kind of scream into a pillow. Uh,

1009
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 2: maybe do some hot yoga, Oh my god, just do

1010
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 2: something to get your mind off of it.

1011
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 1: And it's also very interesting. And I'm just gonna say

1012
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: this one thing. I know that there are a lot

1013
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: of people who say things like we can all disagree

1014
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: on politics and we can still be friends. And I

1015
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: think that used to be the case. I do not

1016
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: feel that that's the case anymore. And I'm gonna explain why.

1017
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,399
Speaker 1: Because if you are a person who is in the

1018
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 1: impacted group of a lot of the things that could

1019
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: be coming down the barrel, if you're in the LGBTQIA community,

1020
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,240
Speaker 1: if you are a minority, if you are a woman,

1021
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 1: if you care about medicaid, if you care about all

1022
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 1: these very big important things, maybe even wars overseas. If

1023
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,280
Speaker 1: you care about those things, if you're impacted by those things,

1024
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,479
Speaker 1: it's very hard to be friends with a person who

1025
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 1: actively votes against you and your human rights, your bodily autonomy,

1026
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: and all of these things. It's getting more and more

1027
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 1: difficult to do that as badly as it seems to

1028
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: be existing now. So if you see people getting a

1029
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 1: little more tense and a little more chaotic about things,

1030
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: that could be part of the reason. And if you

1031
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,280
Speaker 1: can sit there and say, hey, we can still be friends.

1032
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 1: You have to take a step back and appreciate how very,

1033
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 1: very privileged you are to be in a group that

1034
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: you know is not going to be impacted by these things.

1035
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 1: And that's not a bad thing, that doesn't make you

1036
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 1: a bad person. Enjoy it. Appreciate that because I know

1037
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: I'm not in that group. Andrew, I don't think you're

1038
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:48,959
Speaker 1: in that group. It's a tough one.

1039
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 2: It's yeah, it's I think you said it perfectly. You can.

1040
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,879
Speaker 2: I'm all up for discussion. I'm all for talking things out.

1041
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 2: I think you can approach things, try and change people's

1042
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 2: minds in heart. But it just is getting very difficult

1043
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 2: to even start those conversations without saying, like, if we

1044
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 2: can't settle on basic human rights, then we really gotta

1045
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 2: take several steps back just to get there. And it's

1046
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 2: hard to explain something like that to somebody.

1047
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: It's tough to explain. And is this podcast gonna get political?

1048
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1049
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: Probably. I'm not even gonna lie because you know what,

1050
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:27,919
Speaker 1: you know what this is. It's auso on the side.

1051
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 1: It's all the stuff I get to do here in

1052
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 1: my studio and or my control that we don't do

1053
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 1: on the air.

1054
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you, honestly, have you how got about this?

1055
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:37,919
Speaker 3: Let me take a second.

1056
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: Are you gonna say something mean to me?

1057
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 2: No?

1058
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 1: Wait, are you gonna say something nice to me?

1059
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 2: Yes?

1060
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 1: I'll take all the seconds you need.

1061
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 2: You are very politically passionate. Is that what you would say? Passionate? Politically?

1062
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:54,240
Speaker 1: Maybe?

1063
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 2: How do I? I don't even know what I would say,

1064
00:41:55,800 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 2: but you don't. Yes, but you do have voice that

1065
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 2: you want to use more. And I think instead of

1066
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,399
Speaker 2: stifling it and not trying to come out and say

1067
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 2: how you really feel, like that would be more of

1068
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 2: a harm than actually saying what you feel and maybe

1069
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 2: even changing a few minds and hearts.

1070
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 1: Maybe. I had a friend asking the other day if

1071
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 1: it was really difficult because of these jobs to have

1072
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,439
Speaker 1: an opinion about everything, especially you know, stupid celebrity news.

1073
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: He's like, do you actually care do you really talk

1074
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 1: about these things? And like, do I actually care about it?

1075
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 3: No?

1076
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 1: I don't care what a celebrity wants to do with

1077
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: their lives and themselves. Good, go live your life. I

1078
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 1: think what's much harder is to have an opinion and

1079
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: not be able.

1080
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 2: To say it.

1081
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a way way tougher thing in this business

1082
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: and entertainment and probably a lot of businesses than caring

1083
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: about stupid celebrity. So it's harder to not say the

1084
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: things that are in your heart. So prepare yourselves.

1085
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 2: This could get bumpy, yes, but be open for conversation.

1086
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 2: Don't just come control. Don't just be so quick to

1087
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 2: be as both parties are want to do triggered by

1088
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 2: something or calling them out. Actually listen, digest it. If

1089
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 2: you think there's an alternative fact that maybe someone's not hearing,

1090
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 2: present it, but that's.

1091
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: Not a thing. Alternative fact.

1092
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 2: Well, if you're coming with a quote unquote research.

1093
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 1: Okay, if you an alternate opinion, that is the thing. Yes,

1094
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Speaker 1: an alternate fact does not exist. They continue apologies.

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00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,280
Speaker 2: One plus one does equal to this guy is blue.

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00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 2: There is an alternative fact to that.

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Speaker 1: Graveity Israel. It is on earth.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, think about it. Don't just be so quick

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00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 2: to be angry, and who knows, maybe you'll learn a

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Speaker 2: thing or two.

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Speaker 1: And that was your boy Andrew, who you can find

1102
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: on social media at Andrew Bug only on Instagram because

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00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 1: he will not dabble in anything else.

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Speaker 2: I got rid of Twitter the minute Elon went crazy.

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00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,359
Speaker 1: Let me tell you it's live over there right now,

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Speaker 1: going do.

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Speaker 2: I'm so happy I'm away from the sesspool and.

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00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 1: I am at Baby Hot Sauce on Twitter, even though

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Speaker 1: I guess we call it x now and I never

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00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:51,439
Speaker 1: really know X or tweet whatever.

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00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 2: I would never dead name someone, but I'm a dead named.

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Speaker 1: Twitter, okay, and on Instagram at Baby Hot Sauce. Come

1113
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 1: holler and uh. We love you and we're always open

1114
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,800
Speaker 1: to suggestions. If there's stuff you want us to talk about,

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Speaker 1: please send it our way. Yes, yeah, okay, say by

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Speaker 1: it until next time, Andrew.

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Speaker 2: Hey, buye until next time, Andrew