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Speaker 1: If you want Colts talk all year long, you're in

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Speaker 1: the right place. Taylor hit Buddy Counts.

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Speaker 2: Into the end zone.

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Speaker 3: Touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, why how can we like you mentioned as Pillars,

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Speaker 3: Play action?

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Speaker 1: Now he's in trouble and he's going to be brought

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Speaker 1: down a sack for the Colts. The Forest buckner back

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Speaker 4: Never quit.

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Speaker 5: I'm never not fault, I never not compete, and I

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Speaker 5: will always containe to be a great, great leader, great competitor.

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Speaker 1: And now he checks it down left side looking for

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Speaker 1: the end zone for Alec Pears, and he's got it, touchdown,

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Speaker 1: Alec Pears. This is the Official Colts Podcast, giving you

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Speaker 1: an updated look at what's new with the Horseshoes in

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Speaker 1: the Indiana Union Construction Industry Radio Studio. Let's get the

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Speaker 5: What's up everyone, It's another episode of the Official Colts

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Speaker 5: Podcast here on the Colts Audio Network. We are brought

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Speaker 5: to you by our friends at win Bet. I'm JJ

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Speaker 5: Stakowitz here with Casey Valier and Bill Brooks. We got

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Speaker 5: football things to talk about. Guys. You know what I

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Speaker 5: love about that intro, you get Matt Taylor's highlight calls

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Speaker 5: We're taping this Two months from today, the coltsill have

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Speaker 5: Mini Camp. The Colts held their mandatory mini camp last week,

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Speaker 3: I think when you look at Anthony Richardson and when

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Speaker 3: I would say the one the group that I'm looking

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Speaker 3: at I'm looking at the offensive line.

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Speaker 4: M M.

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Speaker 3: I would like to look to see what the office

436
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Speaker 3: line does because I think we all know how important

437
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Speaker 3: the offensive line is to the team, to the offense,

438
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Speaker 3: to the production of who I was going to be

439
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Speaker 3: quarterback back there, to production of the running backs. So

440
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Speaker 3: I'm looking at the office line see how they progress

441
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Speaker 3: during training camp. New offense, new scheme, new coaching, so

442
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Speaker 3: let's see what happens there. I want to see how

443
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Speaker 3: they do. So to me, yes, we're gone. We know.

444
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Speaker 3: We all know about Anthony Richardson, and we all know

445
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Speaker 3: about Menshew, and we know about that competition there, we

446
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Speaker 3: all know about talk about the cornerback position as well.

447
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Speaker 3: But off the line, to me is gonna be the

448
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Speaker 3: position that I look at because I want to see

449
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Speaker 3: how they do, and I think that's gonna dictate how

450
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Speaker 3: probably it will dictate probably how good this offense will

451
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Speaker 3: be going into this twenty twenty three season.

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Speaker 4: Now I agree, I think definitely there's where my eyes

453
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Speaker 4: are gonna be looking at. But I think tight ends

454
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Speaker 4: and then all of the secondary there's there are question marks.

455
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Speaker 4: You've got the injury to Daniel Scott, which which is

456
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Speaker 4: going to impact the safety group because you just depth wise.

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Speaker 5: Real quick on that case. Yeah, Daniel Scott placed uninjured

458
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Speaker 5: reserve last week towards ACL so he is done. Yes

459
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Speaker 5: for his rookie year. That's a bummer. I took the

460
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Speaker 5: culture gonna count at him this year for stamps.

461
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Speaker 4: But yeah, sorry, go ahead, Oh no, you're fine that

462
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Speaker 4: that is a big loss because he may not have

463
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Speaker 4: been one of those guys fighting for a lot of

464
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Speaker 4: defensive snaps this season, but he's a guy who played

465
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Speaker 4: over six special team snaps during his I mean he

466
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Speaker 4: spent a long time in college. I mean he's he's

467
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Speaker 4: an older rookie. He had a lot of special teams.

468
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Speaker 4: You know, he'd done it for a long time. So

469
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Speaker 4: that was an area I was really, you know, kind

470
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Speaker 4: of a little upset to see that injury happen because

471
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Speaker 4: it's really gonna keep your eyes there. But corner, you

472
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Speaker 4: got a lot of young guys, so it's gonna be

473
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Speaker 4: a lot of youth trying to, you know, figure out

474
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Speaker 4: what that starting lineup is gonna look like at the

475
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Speaker 4: corner spot. But as we mentioned, you talk about Kylon

476
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Speaker 4: grantson in the spring, he had he did that with

477
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Speaker 4: guys like Jilanni Woods, Drew Ogletree, Will Mallory sidelined for

478
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Speaker 4: a majority of the time, seeing all of them back

479
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Speaker 4: with the guy like Pharaoh Brown and mo Aley Cox.

480
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Speaker 4: There's a lot of guys with a lot of experience

481
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Speaker 4: fighting for some minimal spots. So it's gonna be a

482
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Speaker 4: lot of fun to see how that tight end room

483
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Speaker 4: kind of shapes out. Because there's some guys who I

484
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Speaker 4: wouldn't be shocked to see not make this roster make

485
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Speaker 4: someone else's.

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Speaker 3: That's gonna be interesting. I think that will probably be

487
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Speaker 3: one of the toughest battles of the team as far

488
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Speaker 3: as who's gonna be on this roster as far us

489
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Speaker 3: in a tight end position, I agree with you.

490
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Speaker 5: Yeah. For me, the the biggest thing I want to

491
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Speaker 5: watch is just how do the all the rookies the

492
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Speaker 5: Colts have?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

494
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Speaker 5: How does that show a lot of them? Because you

495
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Speaker 5: draft twelve players and bring in quite a few undrafted

496
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Speaker 5: free agents, a lot of whom you you do like

497
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Speaker 5: and are interested in seeing, there's gonna be a lot

498
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Speaker 5: of competition there. It's that that to me, the down

499
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Speaker 5: the roster battles during training camp are gonna be fascinating. Absolutely,

500
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Speaker 5: because I mean, can the Colts keep all twelve rookies,

501
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Speaker 5: I don't know, but they could earn their way onto

502
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Speaker 5: the roster, right and that could then lead to some

503
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Speaker 5: names who maybe you recognize not making the roster. It's

504
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Speaker 5: gonna be really competitive up in Grand Park, and I

505
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Speaker 5: think I think Shane Steichen has set this team up

506
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Speaker 5: for healthy competition. Yeah, and look it starts with the

507
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Speaker 5: quarterback room. Like I know we said an internet to

508
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Speaker 5: talking about quarterback room, but the competition in there. Hearing

509
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Speaker 5: Gardner Minshew last week talk about why the Colts are

510
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Speaker 5: so excited, you know, Like you see Anthony Richardson making

511
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Speaker 5: a big throw, the first guy over to him is

512
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Speaker 5: Gardner Minshew to jump in him a high five, and

513
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Speaker 5: he like. But it's because I think Gardner Minshew has

514
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Speaker 5: set the tone for the quarterback group. And I think

515
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Speaker 5: if you're looking at the entire team, he's like, look,

516
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Speaker 5: I'm gonna take care of what I can do. Anthony's

517
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Speaker 5: taking care of what he can do, and the success

518
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Speaker 5: of one of me does not impact Anthony. The success

519
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 5: of Anthony does not impact me, but it impacts the

520
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Speaker 5: entire team. So we need to be rooting for each other.

521
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Speaker 5: And I think for everyone. You see the quarterback competition

522
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Speaker 5: and see how they're operating, that's how it should look

523
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Speaker 5: at every other position group.

524
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Speaker 3: And I think it's a good competition. You want that

525
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Speaker 3: type of competition. And I know what we used to

526
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Speaker 3: say and when I was playing, is let's make it

527
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Speaker 3: tough on the coaches, right, let them make a tough decision.

528
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Speaker 3: They have to make a tough decision. If we go

529
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Speaker 3: and compete like we should compete against each other, all

530
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Speaker 3: in fun, all in good competition, no malice or anything

531
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Speaker 3: like that, then that's going to be tough on the

532
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Speaker 3: coaches to make the decision. But that's only gonna make

533
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Speaker 3: us better as a team. And that's what you want.

534
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Speaker 3: And that's that's what I like seeing. I like seeing

535
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Speaker 3: those guys going out there. Hey, high five the guy

536
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Speaker 3: for throwing a touchdown pass. But then know what I'm

537
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Speaker 3: going out there, I'm making a twenty yard completionent myself.

538
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Speaker 3: So those are the things you want to see out

539
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Speaker 3: there in practice.

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Speaker 4: Well, Bill, you can speak to this. I mean you

541
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Speaker 4: played at the highest level. I know me. I did

542
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Speaker 4: not play nearly at the highest level, but I played

543
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Speaker 4: collegiate baseball and one of the things that I see,

544
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Speaker 4: you see people compete, that's just what you wanted. You're

545
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Speaker 4: a competitor and you see someone do something, You're like,

546
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Speaker 4: all right, that was pretty cool. I want to do

547
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Speaker 4: something better exactly, And that's what's gonna do. You see

548
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Speaker 4: guys continue to play at the top of what they

549
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 4: can do. It just makes everybody else better. So that's

550
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Speaker 4: you want to have competition is and that's that's maybe

551
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Speaker 4: why I'm really looking forward to this training camp because

552
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Speaker 4: there's a lot of questions and I kind of like it,

553
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Speaker 4: like I'm okay that I don't know what it's gonna

554
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Speaker 4: look like. You know, when August one rolls around to

555
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Speaker 4: what August sixteen rolls around, I am excited to see

556
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Speaker 4: just the change that you see throughout camp.

557
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Speaker 5: This is great because we're an now goo to transition

558
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Speaker 5: into wet cement all right. By the way, I saw

559
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Speaker 5: a story recently of probably this is you know, like

560
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 5: like senior pranks. Like usually it's like, oh, you planted

561
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Speaker 5: a tree in the pitcher's moulenger, you put glitter on

562
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Speaker 5: the football field or something that's like that's annoying, harmless.

563
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Speaker 5: Some kid apparently I don't know where this was. He

564
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Speaker 5: put quick crete down the toilets at his schools and

565
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Speaker 5: caused several thousand dollars worth of damage to the plumbing.

566
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Speaker 5: And the quote I saw was that he said he

567
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Speaker 5: would get a summer job to work it off him. Like, buddy,

568
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Speaker 5: you're gonna need more than a summer job.

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Speaker 4: You will pay that summer jobs.

570
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Speaker 5: But anyways, for what cement, let's start with the quarterback

571
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Speaker 5: battle between Anthony Richardson and Gardner Minshew. Did the Spring

572
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Speaker 5: play any role in who the cults are going to

573
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Speaker 5: roll with at quarterback in week one?

574
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Speaker 4: Like?

575
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Speaker 5: Was there really any competition going on? Or is that

576
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Speaker 5: cement still just it hasn't even left the mixer yet.

577
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Speaker 4: I would say that the seamen hasn't left the mixer,

578
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Speaker 4: but it's it's starting to drip down, if that makes sense.

579
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Speaker 4: I think ultimately we all knew what Gardner Minshew was

580
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Speaker 4: going to come in and do. Gardner Minshew was going

581
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Speaker 4: to come in and kind of, you know, steady the troops,

582
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Speaker 4: if you will. He was gonna have that veteran leadership.

583
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 4: He knows the Shane Stike in offense. But ultimately he

584
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 4: is just kind of there to get things ready, so

585
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Speaker 4: when Anthony Richardson's ready to roll, he's the guy for

586
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Speaker 4: the future. You don't take a guy forth overall at

587
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Speaker 4: the quarterback position and not anticipate him being the guy

588
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Speaker 4: at some point. So I don't know whether or not

589
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Speaker 4: we'll know whether or not the semen is dry when

590
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Speaker 4: training camp is over. I think right now you're seeing it,

591
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Speaker 4: you know, dribble out. I don't know ultimately when you

592
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Speaker 4: will be able to know. It's a terrible answer. Probably

593
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Speaker 4: middle of August, right like, that's probably a good a

594
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Speaker 4: good call because I think ultimately there's a really good

595
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Speaker 4: possibility that Gardner Minshew starts the season as the quarterback.

596
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Speaker 4: But I don't think that's the way that it's going

597
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Speaker 4: to end up because Anthony Richardson the only way for

598
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 4: him to get better is to take those snaps, to

599
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 4: take his lumps, his ups and downs. So ultimately that's

600
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Speaker 4: where we're going to be. So right now, the cement,

601
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Speaker 4: I don't think it's left the mixer. It's gonna be

602
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 4: very very wet when the middle of camp rolls around,

603
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Speaker 4: and we won't know when it's dry until maybe the

604
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Speaker 4: time that we ten rolls around.

605
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Speaker 5: For the Cement to dry Bill, this is great for

606
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 5: for me, it's how does Anthony Richardson respond to the

607
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 5: bad days in training camp. He's going to have days

608
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 5: where he he you know, can barely complete a pass,

609
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 5: he's getting picked off. It's not working for him because

610
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 5: he is a young quarterback. Every single rookie quarterback is

611
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 5: going to have those days in practice. How does he

612
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,439
Speaker 5: come back the next day? Does it spiral, does it

613
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 5: snowball or does he take the mistakes that he made

614
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 5: and does he learn from them and then correct them

615
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 5: going forward? To me, that's the biggest thing that I'm

616
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Speaker 5: watching for in determining this, and.

617
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Speaker 3: That's a good way of looking at it. And for me,

618
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Speaker 3: bring all the Spring did for me was I would say,

619
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Speaker 3: give Anthony Richardson an opportunity to learn the playbook so

620
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Speaker 3: when training camp does start, he is as close to

621
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Speaker 3: possible as from rookie to be on equal footing to

622
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Speaker 3: compete for a job. Because if you don't know what

623
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Speaker 3: the plays are, you don't understand the plays, you really

624
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 3: can't compete. Now, Gardn Minshew has the edge because he's

625
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 3: a veteran. He sees things, he knows what's the defense is,

626
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,679
Speaker 3: trying to do to him. So when he sees a

627
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 3: certain front, defensive front, he knows, okay, this is what

628
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 3: they're doing. When he sees a certain coverage, he knows

629
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Speaker 3: what they're doing, so he can go with the ball.

630
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 3: Soon's the ball snap, he can get the ball right

631
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 3: out his hands quick. But with Anthony, this opportunity in

632
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 3: the springtime was to get to know the offense, understand

633
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Speaker 3: the offense, understanding terminology, so going into the training camp

634
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 3: he can be as ready as possible to compete with

635
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Speaker 3: Gardner Minshew and I agree with you, guys, Casey, the

636
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 3: cement is probably just coming out right just right now

637
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 3: as far as when the spring is over, getting ready

638
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Speaker 3: to go in the training camp.

639
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Speaker 4: And one of the things I think we've discussed at

640
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 4: nods throughout this entire offseason program. It's not super imperative

641
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 4: that every single player is out there playing, But ultimately,

642
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 4: think about Anthony Richardson. He hasn't been throwing to Michael Pittman.

643
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 4: He hasn't seen Jonathan Taylor in the backfield. He has

644
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,239
Speaker 4: I mean Alec Peter Smith's a substantial amount of time.

645
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 4: Josh downs How hasn't been out there, So there are

646
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 4: a lot of pieces that Anthony Richardson hasn't seen within

647
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 4: this offense that more than likely when August rolls around,

648
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 4: are going to be the guys running those routes. So

649
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 4: I think that's also part of it. Same with Gardner Minshew.

650
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 4: I mean, he's dealing with the same thing. He hasn't

651
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 4: seen those guys too, So I think it's really hard

652
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 4: to kind of get that gauge until you see everybody

653
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 4: and you see kind of how it looks with everybody

654
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 4: on the field.

655
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 5: All right, So in the secondary, I think there's only one.

656
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:48,479
Speaker 5: Let's say there's seven starters right in nicol it's basically

657
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 5: your base defense these days, I think there's one guaranteed

658
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 5: starter that's kennymore the second as your kind of nickel corner.

659
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 5: If you go to a base four to three, he

660
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 5: kicks outside. Black probably will start, but Nick Cross can

661
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 5: compete with him at that strong safety spot. And then

662
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 5: let's say there's a scenario where Nick Cross plays really

663
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 5: well in training camp, but Julian Blackman's also playing really well.

664
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 5: Do you drop Julian Blackman back to free safety? And

665
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,959
Speaker 5: then does Rodney Thomas become more of a reserve. So

666
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 5: That's why I say there's only one guaranteed starter obviously cornerback.

667
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 5: With all the youth there that is wide open and

668
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 5: up in the air. How do you see this all

669
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 5: playing out? Because safety and corner that the competition there

670
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 5: could go any which way. Like every time I see

671
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 5: some you know, some Colts fans around here there, they'll

672
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 5: ask me about the secondary and I'm like, look, it

673
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 5: could be you could you could have your starting corners

674
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 5: of like Dallas Flowers, Juju Brent's, Kennymore. You could have

675
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 5: Darius Rush, Kenny Moore, Dallas Flowers, you could have Darryl Baker, right,

676
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 5: you know, Juju, Brent's and Kenny. Like, it could go

677
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 5: any which way. And to me, that competition just being

678
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 5: so wide open is one of the most interesting story

679
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 5: lines going into training camp.

680
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're gonna have You're gonna have some young players

681
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 3: playing in the secondary this year, no matter what you say,

682
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 3: no matter what type of combination combination you have, they're

683
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 3: gonna have to play because those guys are right now

684
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 3: with with uh Gilmore gone and things in the secondary,

685
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 3: so the guys are going practicing hard, playing hard. But

686
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 3: it's gonna be some young guys and they have to

687
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 3: be ready to go. If they're not ready to go

688
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 3: uh by time training camps over, there's gonna be some

689
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 3: issues in the secondary. But I like what the guys

690
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 3: are doing back there. I mean, I like the situation

691
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 3: where you have Jillian Blackman back there safety, you have

692
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 3: Rodney Thomas, you have Dallas Flowers, you have Baker. Of

693
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 3: course you have Kennymore. I like the group back there,

694
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 3: but just to matter the coaches making decision, who's gonna

695
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 3: give us the best chance to win back there and

696
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 3: who's gonna be so good that we have to play them.

697
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 3: And I like the young guys because they're longa tall

698
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 3: and long, and I think that's what Gus Bradley has

699
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 3: in the hass have has had some long defenders to

700
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 3: hamper the receivers getting down the field. For a receiver,

701
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 3: I hated guys that were tall and had long arms

702
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 3: because they just drove me crazy, made it tough to

703
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 3: get off the line of scrimmage. But yeah, I think

704
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 3: it's gone interesting to see what happens with the young

705
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 3: guys out there and in the secondary.

706
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 4: This may be part of the reason that I mentioned

707
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 4: I'm so excited to kind of see what it looks

708
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 4: like in camp, just because I think there's a real

709
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,719
Speaker 4: possibility that the secondary looks a lot different than what

710
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 4: you've seen any cold secondary in a while, just because

711
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 4: of the guys you have, they just have they bring

712
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,959
Speaker 4: different skill sets, and that is something that I'm really

713
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 4: I'm anxious because I have you've kind of seen this

714
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 4: in the NFL landscape recently, is some of these young

715
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 4: guys at corner are coming in and making huge differences.

716
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 4: You're seeing that it's safe too, but you know it's

717
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 4: it's highlighted at that cornerback position. And I'm anxious because

718
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 4: I think there's a lot of talent with a couple

719
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 4: of these guys they've brought in that I'm not sure

720
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 4: if we're gonna see the sea dried at all this

721
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 4: year because there might be a hand point a handful

722
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 4: of guys that are just interchanging that you can never

723
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,479
Speaker 4: really say this is what it's going to look like.

724
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 4: That's kind of where I look at.

725
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 5: I mean, the competition is going to extend into the season.

726
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 5: The Colts Week one secondary could be very different than

727
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 5: the week eight, Week fifteen, Week eighteen. You hope that

728
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 5: it stays the same from week one is huge, right, Yes,

729
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 5: I agree. I think you're totally right about this one

730
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 5: Casey that this could keep going on throughout the season.

731
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 5: All right, what about up front? Two guys who have

732
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 5: quite a bit of potential that the Colts are looking

733
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 5: for them to continue striving to reach it. Quity Pay

734
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 5: on the defensive line and Bernard Ryman at left tackle.

735
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 5: Right now, I mean Bernard Ryman, he's probably your guy there.

736
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 5: The Colts don't have a veteran per se competing with

737
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 5: him at that spot. You've got, you know, Blake Freeland,

738
00:33:55,920 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 5: Jake Witt, two guys who were drafted this year, I think, think,

739
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 5: But I like what I've seen from Bernard Ryman, like

740
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 5: toward the end of last season when he really started

741
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 5: to get his feet under him. He put on good

742
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 5: weight this offseason. I'm encouraged about Bernard Ryman. Quitty Pay.

743
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 5: The thing that we need to remember with Quitty Pay

744
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 5: this dude. Okay, so his sack numbers have been what

745
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 5: four and six? Right, He's a very good run defender. Yes,

746
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 5: you need to he can set the edge really well.

747
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 5: That is an important thing to do in the NFL.

748
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 5: And I think everyone expects. Oh, he's a first round pick.

749
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,439
Speaker 5: He should be getting ten fifteen sacks a year. You'd

750
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 5: love him to reach that. Quity Pay is a good

751
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 5: NFL player right now. He can get better and he

752
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 5: can get after the quarterback more consistently, but he is

753
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 5: to me, he's a good NFL player. Drafted twenty first overall.

754
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 5: That is a good thing. Do you see signs though,

755
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 5: that you know, Bernard Ryman can improve from being a

756
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 5: you know, good for a rookie, solid for a rookie

757
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 5: left tackle into being a good NFL left tackle. Do

758
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 5: you see signs Bill that Quitty Pay can improve from

759
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 5: being a good NFL player who can stop the run

760
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 5: to a you know, very good NFL player who can

761
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 5: really consistently get after the quarterback.

762
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 3: I think yes to both those questions, because first, you

763
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 3: saw Bernard Rayman make steps mixed games throughout the season

764
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 3: last year. He got better as the season went on,

765
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 3: and I think that he can continue to do that

766
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 3: during this offseason and going into training camp and being

767
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 3: ready for the season to make those steps. And he's gonna,

768
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna have to in order for the

769
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 3: for this offensive line to be successful and to be

770
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 3: successful as the way they want to be successful, uh,

771
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 3: and running this offense. And then of course Quitty Pay.

772
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 3: Remember Quitty Pay has been dinged up the past couple

773
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 3: of years, you know, So that that that just taken

774
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 3: him a step back a little bit. So I think

775
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 3: if Quitty Pay can stay healthy, I think he can

776
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 3: bring up those numbers as far as pass rush and

777
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 3: not so much just getting sacks, but putting pressure on

778
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 3: the quarterback. To me, those are just important as a

779
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 3: sack and making him make a make the quarterback make

780
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 3: a bad throw, a bad decision back there. And as

781
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 3: you said, JJ, Quity Pay is good against the run

782
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:06,959
Speaker 3: and to play a defensive line. We all think about

783
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 3: getting sacks and we need to get sacks.

784
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 4: But there's more teams.

785
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 5: Other teams do run the ball, you know, they they

786
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 5: have Quicky Pay could stop the run, they would just

787
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 5: run it right at him exactly.

788
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 3: So my thing. So he's doing his job. So yeah,

789
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 3: you want to see him take the next step, and

790
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 3: I think he can take the next step. And I

791
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 3: think for Quitty just hearing him talk, he really wants

792
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 3: to take that next step right now. So he's doing

793
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 3: all the things he needs to do to get ready

794
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 3: so he can be that guy on the defense to

795
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 3: help put pressure against the quarterback and of course get

796
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 3: more sacks.

797
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 4: Last week on the podcast, we talked about ESPN dot

798
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 4: Com put out an article about the five top players

799
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 4: for each team and these two guys who are not

800
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,399
Speaker 4: on there. And one of the things that I thought

801
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 4: Matt Taylor said really well last week is at the

802
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 4: end of the year, if the Colts are showing that projection,

803
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 4: they look like they're heading into twenty twenty four in

804
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 4: a positive light. Both Bernard Ryman and quld he Pay

805
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 4: are a part of that top five list, and I

806
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 4: one hundred percent agree. I think there are a lot

807
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 4: of tools in their game that they have shown. They've

808
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 4: made those strides to continue to be able to prove

809
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 4: they can take that next step to be you know,

810
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 4: whether that's you know, for Bernard Ryman just to be

811
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 4: a select you can you know, you can pencil him

812
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 4: in at left tackle and you're safe there. And then

813
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 4: even quid he Pay to that point where maybe he

814
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 4: is in that discussion of your most important defensive players

815
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 4: on this team. But I think when you look at

816
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 4: the positions that they play, that's part of the reason

817
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 4: this question is in here. I think they both have

818
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 4: those tools and that skill set to make that next step,

819
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 4: and this year I think is huge for both of them.

820
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 4: I mean, I think right now that cement is pretty dry.

821
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 4: I think right now you know what you you know

822
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 4: that those guys are potential pillars. The cements dry. You

823
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 4: just have to improve on it. And I think this

824
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 4: is a big You mentioned quld he Pay in the

825
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 4: nagging injuries he's had. I think if he can put

826
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 4: together a full season, it's it's one of those things.

827
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,879
Speaker 4: Injuries happen in the game half football, so it's going

828
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 4: to happen. But if Quitty Pay can put together a

829
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 4: full season, I think you can really get a good

830
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 4: idea this year of where he's going to be for

831
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 4: the next handful of years. And Bernard Reyman, I agree completely.

832
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 4: I think he sewed a lot of strides last year

833
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 4: at the end of the year that he was making

834
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,879
Speaker 4: that next step. Give him a full offseason. He's gained yeah,

835
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 4: I think he said he put on with thirty pounds.

836
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, And here's the thing to me, it's good weight.

837
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 4: It's not just yeah, just weight.

838
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 3: Like I do, yeah, right, right, right, eating everything nutritional

839
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 3: value out the window for me.

840
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 4: For him, he exactly, he's putting on good weight. I

841
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 4: think he is taking every step he needs to to

842
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 4: get to that point.

843
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 5: All Right, one more wet cement deal here, and I

844
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 5: love how how this one may tay put this in

845
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 5: the rundown the Colts tight end room. All right, So

846
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 5: here's le let's just kind of reset this a little bit.

847
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 5: The Colts are bringing back all three tight ends that

848
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 5: played over three hundred and thirty snaps last year. That

849
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 5: would be mo Aley Cox, Jolwanni Woods, and Kylon Granson.

850
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 5: They also are bringing back Drew Ogletree, who is the

851
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 5: sixth round pick last year, who the Colts thought was

852
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 5: gonna be a really good player before he tore his

853
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 5: ACL in a joint practice with the Detroit Lions. Then

854
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,800
Speaker 5: Will Mallory was a fifth round pick this year. Farroh

855
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 5: Brown and Caden Smith were both signed in free agency.

856
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 5: All right, so let's say you're trying to fill in

857
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 5: a four foot by four foot box here. Do the

858
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 5: Colts have too much cement? Is there like too much

859
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 5: cement in the mixer to fill in the tight end box?

860
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 5: And is it too wet?

861
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:39,399
Speaker 4: Right? Now you're rowing over into the grass and I'm

862
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 4: gonna take this one.

863
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 5: Bill.

864
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 4: I don't think there's ever too much cement because I'm

865
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,879
Speaker 4: a big I'm a big believer in depth. But you're

866
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 4: pretty close. I mean, there is a lot of NFL

867
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 4: experience and in a lot of different ways. That's one

868
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 4: of the things I like about this tight end room

869
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 4: because you got a lot of different guys that offer

870
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 4: different skill sets, and I think that's a good thing

871
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,479
Speaker 4: to have, especially in a Shane Styke in office where

872
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 4: he likes to utilize players in different different ways. You know,

873
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 4: you may have one wide receiver that looks like this,

874
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 4: another looks like that. Same with the tight end spot.

875
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 4: So I'm I'm interested to see what happens here because

876
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 4: I think there is a lot of cement. I don't

877
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 4: know if there's too much, but there is there is

878
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,399
Speaker 4: an overflowing amount that that could get to the point

879
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 4: where there's a tipping point. So we'll see what happens there.

880
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 3: I've said, you have some variety, like you said, case

881
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 3: you at the tight end position here, you know you

882
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 3: have guys that are tall. Most of the guys are

883
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 3: tall and big, but you have Kylin grantson a little

884
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 3: on the smaller side that can run, and it's a

885
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 3: little quicker maybe than some other the guys, but I

886
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 3: liked it. I'm looking forward to this competition. Yeah, there's

887
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 3: gonna be some good competition. And you know JJ you

888
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 3: mentioned Drew Ogletree last year, you know, having a good

889
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 3: camp and looking very good in camp before the injury,

890
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 3: and I'm looking to see how he bounces back from

891
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 3: that injury and how he looks come training camp when

892
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 3: he's ready to go to practice. And so you have

893
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 3: someone like that, if he can continue to progress and

894
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 3: get better, it's gonna be just see what he does.

895
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 3: And then we know what Jolanny Woods did last year,

896
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 3: how he played as a rookie, making some big plays,

897
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 3: being a big target for quarterbacks. And I know quarterbacks

898
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 3: love having big targets, especially over the middle. So it's

899
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 3: gonna be interesting to see what these guys do. This

900
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,959
Speaker 3: might be one of the best competitions in training camp

901
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 3: as far as who makes the team and who gets

902
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 3: playing time and where's the ball going?

903
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 4: Right, I mean, I think you're right, because I think

904
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 4: there's gonna be some names you're gonna see. Wow, they

905
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 4: cut him and he may have had a really good camp.

906
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 4: You just got to look at it from a numbers

907
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 4: I completely agree.

908
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 3: And there's gonna be some team that gets a good

909
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 3: just a good player. Some of the team's gonna get

910
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 3: a good player.

911
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 4: And that is one thing that Chris Ballard has always said,

912
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 4: you want to release guys that other teams are picking up.

913
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 4: And I think there's a really good possibility to this

914
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 4: hide end room. You're gonna see maybe a couple guys

915
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 4: that get NFL jobs because there's just a lot of

916
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 4: depth and pretty good talent there.

917
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, one other thing to wrap up before we wrap

918
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 5: up this podcast, just from Mini Camp, was Jonathan Taylor

919
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 5: talked last week a little bit about his situation and

920
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,399
Speaker 5: he's up for a contract extension. He's in the final

921
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 5: year of his four year rookie contract. Being a twenty

922
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 5: twenty draft pick and being a running back and trying

923
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 5: to get paid is a tough needle to thread in

924
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 5: the NFL today. I mean, you look at just this offseason,

925
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 5: Saquon Barkley and Josh Jacobs both got the franchise tag.

926
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,320
Speaker 5: Josh Jacobs led the NFL in rushing last year. Saquon

927
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 5: Barkley one of the best running backs in the NFL.

928
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 5: He can do everything, catch the ball, run the ball,

929
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 5: whatever you need him to do. Neither of them have

930
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 5: signed that franchise tag yet, and I believe that's like

931
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 5: ten point eight million.

932
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 4: I want to say something right around there.

933
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, so you know you're probably looking for a long

934
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 5: term deal. The teams are hesitant to give those to

935
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 5: running backs. Dalvin Cook just got released. Yep, isekil Elliott

936
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 5: got released. It's a tough thing to be a running

937
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 5: back and to get paid. Do you want to know

938
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 5: how old Todd Gurley? By the way, Oh, I saw

939
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 5: some When was the last time Todd Todd Gurley last

940
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,919
Speaker 5: played in the NFL In twenty twenty, he was twenty eight.

941
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 5: Todd Gurley is twenty eight years old. It's an unbelievable

942
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 5: to Todd Gurley was a two time first team All

943
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 5: Pro in twenty seventeen to twenty eighteen. He was the

944
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 5: AP Offensive Player of the Year in twenty seventeen. Wow,

945
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 5: and he's out of the league twenty eight and he's

946
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 5: been out of the league now going on three seasons.

947
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 3: To me, that to me is more amazing than actually

948
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 3: his age three seasons. Yes, as good as it was.

949
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 3: He's been out three seasons.

950
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 4: Wow.

951
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 5: This to me, Jonathan Taylor the contract. If he gets

952
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,399
Speaker 5: a contract EXTENSIONM nicoles, He'll have earned it. You will

953
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 5: have deserved far. Nick Chubb, I think, to me, is

954
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 5: the guy. If you're Jonathan Taylor, you're looking at Nick Chubb.

955
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 4: Yep.

956
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,240
Speaker 5: And he signed. He signed an extension and Nick Chubb

957
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 5: has been good throughout the extension so far. I mean

958
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 5: he's Nick Chubb is one of the most efficient running

959
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 5: backs in the NFL. I was listening to the Athletic

960
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 5: Football Show coming in today and they were talking abou

961
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 5: Huntick Chubb's probably the best pure running back in the NFL.

962
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 5: I think Jonathan Taylor's right there in that conversation. And

963
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 5: to me, the running back value debate, this could be

964
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,760
Speaker 5: a whole podcast. I'm sure you can find the debate

965
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 5: somewhere if you want to really get into it. If

966
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 5: you're listening to this and you're like, I want to

967
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 5: learn more about the running back debate, just like I

968
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 5: don't know, put on any NF national NFL show and

969
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 5: you're going to get a debate about it. What does

970
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 5: what does all this mean? Though? When you see the

971
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 5: landscape of the NFL and how running backs are being

972
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 5: devalued compared to the you know, ten years ago, twenty

973
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 5: years ago, thirty years ago. What does it all mean

974
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:47,840
Speaker 5: for Jonathan Taylor? And before we kind of get into that,

975
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 5: we have a couple of soundbites just so you guys

976
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 5: can hear it from JT himself last week. So take

977
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 5: a listen to these.

978
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, they definitely are and it's sad. It sucks because

979
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 2: a lot of positions, a lot of positions do a

980
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:04,919
Speaker 2: lot for their team, but specifically speaking for the running

981
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 2: back position, I can just speak firsthand. We do do

982
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 2: a lot. And you just want you just want to

983
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 2: be treated fairly and not even treated fairly, you just

984
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 2: want to be, you know, appreciated for what you bring

985
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,280
Speaker 2: to the team. It's never about yourself, it's about the team.

986
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 2: So what do you bring to the team. So, you know,

987
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 2: just seeing guys fight, you just hope that things work

988
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 2: out for them. I mean, you see why guys they

989
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 2: request trades. They want you know, they just want to

990
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 2: feel value by not only their coaches, their teammates, but

991
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 2: the organization as well. And I think it's it's something

992
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 2: you got to continue to do. You definitely have to

993
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 2: pay pay attention just so you know, Okay, what type

994
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 2: of space are you entering into. And you just hope,

995
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 2: you know, from the track record here, you hope that

996
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 2: the things are are being evaluated the right way. You know,

997
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 2: it's not just all about it's all about the wins.

998
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 2: You want to make sure at the end of the day,

999
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 2: you guys are winning games. You want to win championships.

1000
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,879
Speaker 2: But it's a lot I feel like it's a lot

1001
00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 2: more with this organization. It's you know, what are you

1002
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 2: doing in the community. Are you trying to uplift the community?

1003
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 2: Are you trying to uplift your teammates? So you just

1004
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 2: hope that, you know, the organization sees that value and

1005
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 2: everything that you're trying to provide not only to the

1006
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 2: team but also to the community.

1007
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,839
Speaker 5: So, Bill, when you hear Jonathan Taylor talk about those things,

1008
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 5: he's obviously very cognizant of what's going on out there.

1009
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 5: What does this mean for him? What does this landscape

1010
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 5: mean for one of the best running backs in the NFL,

1011
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,240
Speaker 5: who is going to be up for a contract extension

1012
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 5: right now with the Colts.

1013
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,439
Speaker 3: Well, someone that understands the landscape right now, what's going

1014
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 3: on as far as around the NFL. And also I

1015
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 3: think each team is going to handle it differently. So

1016
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 3: each team looks at, of course, the running back position differently.

1017
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 3: Each team is going to handle their own their own

1018
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 3: free agents differently than some other teams. And I think

1019
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor has made a good case for himself what

1020
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 3: he has done in the past and his age. He's

1021
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 3: a younger guy that you know what, he maybe he

1022
00:46:56,400 --> 00:47:00,439
Speaker 3: deserves to be paid a little bit more money than

1023
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 3: what the teams want to pay some of these other

1024
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,879
Speaker 3: running backs. And he's done a good job. Jonathan Taylor

1025
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 3: can run the ball, he holds onto the ball, he blocks,

1026
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 3: he does those things. He is a guy that the

1027
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 3: team values and is. With the landscape changing though of

1028
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 3: the NFL, you're talking about these guys previously and ten

1029
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 3: years ago, Yeah, well it was more of a running league.

1030
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,800
Speaker 3: Now this is a passing league, and everything's geared around

1031
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,919
Speaker 3: the quarterbacks and the wide receivers and the defensive ends

1032
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 3: and the tackles, and that's where his league's get going to.

1033
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 3: So it makes it tough for running backs because a

1034
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 3: lot of teams don't put as much value on the

1035
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 3: running backs. But I think Jonathan Taylor has shown that

1036
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 3: he can be that home run hitter, he can be

1037
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 3: the guy that makes a difference for a team, and

1038
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:51,439
Speaker 3: that when you're running the ball with Jonathan Taylor, other

1039
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 3: teams have to pay attention to that. So I think

1040
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor brings a lot of value to this team,

1041
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,959
Speaker 3: and I think he knows that, and I think he's

1042
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 3: shown what he can do for the Nanapolis Colts.

1043
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 4: I think ultimately we're biased because we see what Jonathan

1044
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,839
Speaker 4: Taylor does, yes, firsthand, we're watching him in practice doing

1045
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 4: all of that, So I think our view may be

1046
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 4: a little tainted. But the way that I look at

1047
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 4: is he is different from all the other guys. And

1048
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 4: the big reason why you talk about quarterback contracts, the

1049
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 4: cults are on a different scale right now. Yes, you

1050
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 4: have a rookie quarterback in place. So if you're at

1051
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 4: that situation, Dalvin Cook, you have Kirk Cousins there, Ezekiel Lellie,

1052
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 4: You've got Dak Prescott there. They also had Tony Pollard,

1053
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 4: who's a pretty good running back. That's part of that reason.

1054
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:43,439
Speaker 4: The same things goes with you know, Josh Jacobs. Yeah,

1055
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 4: Jimmy Garoppolo is not being paid as a premier quarterback,

1056
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 4: but he's on a different contract scale. So I think

1057
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 4: a lot of that also plays into it. And I

1058
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 4: look at this team and I see how can Anthony

1059
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 4: Richardson be the best Anthony Richardson and that is with

1060
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 4: a Jonathan Taylor helping him do that. One of the

1061
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 4: things I think that also is playing a big role.

1062
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 4: It's a passing league. Yes, you look at durability where

1063
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 4: running backs kind of hit their peak and all of that,

1064
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 4: it all plays into it. But also when you look

1065
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 4: at the some of the young guys, I mean, look

1066
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 4: at these young running backs on rookie contracts that have

1067
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 4: come in and made impacts recently. That's part of it.

1068
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: You know.

1069
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 4: You look at the Super Bowl and Pachecko from Kansas

1070
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 4: City was taken in the seventh round. That's kind of

1071
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:29,879
Speaker 4: where you look at some of the way the teams are,

1072
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 4: but the way that this team is constructed. Jonathan Taylor,

1073
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 4: he is a pillar. He is a part of this

1074
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 4: offense that I think the only way maybe not the

1075
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 4: only way, but the best way to see the progress

1076
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 4: of Anthony Richardson from day one to the end of

1077
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 4: the year. It comes with having Jonathan Taylor as a

1078
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 4: nice security blanket both in the run game and you've

1079
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 4: seen him be able to be effective in the passing

1080
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:54,399
Speaker 4: game as well.

1081
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 5: Jonathan Taylor is twenty four. Yeah, I mean that is a.

1082
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 3: Big fanside the age difference. You look at you look

1083
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 3: at Dalvin Cook. I think Dalvin Cook is twenty seven. Yeah,

1084
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 3: I think Ezukiella is twenty seven. So you people say

1085
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 3: that's only three years. That makes a big difference. It's

1086
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 3: a huge difference. So you got, like say Jonathtail twenty four,

1087
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 3: So him being able to secure a contract is in

1088
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 3: his favorite because of his age, right of course, of

1089
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 3: what the value he has to this team.

1090
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,399
Speaker 5: Delvin Cook. So from his age twenty five through twenty

1091
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 5: seven season he ran the ball eight hundred and twenty

1092
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 5: five times in that span. That is a lot of carries.

1093
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 5: That's a lot of work.

1094
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 6: That's a lot of and look trade by the way,

1095
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 6: if let's say Jonathan Taylor got Dalvin Cook's contract extension

1096
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:41,399
Speaker 6: and he got the same production ish that Dalvin Cook got,

1097
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 6: that's really good.

1098
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:44,839
Speaker 5: The Vikings got their money's worth out of Dalvin Cook.

1099
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 5: Contract and then they did release him, but they absolutely

1100
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 5: got their money's worth out of that. Just because you

1101
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 5: give a running back and extension does not mean it

1102
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 5: you're not going to get value out of it.

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00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 3: Exactly.

1104
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 5: The Browns are getting a lot of value out of

1105
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,080
Speaker 5: the Nick Chubb contract extension. I think you can say

1106
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 5: the Cowboys got value out of the Zeke contract ultimately. Yeah,

1107
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 5: and that you can't just look at it as like

1108
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 5: you should never pay a running back. They don't have

1109
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 5: the kind of value you can just find a guy

1110
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 5: off the street, like you can't find a Jonathan Taylor

1111
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 5: off There is a difference between the elite guys who

1112
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 5: like Bill sexactly the home run hitters. Jonathan Taylor is

1113
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 5: an explosive, efficient running back. He can do both that.

1114
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,359
Speaker 5: To me, those are the kind of guys who, if

1115
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,280
Speaker 5: you reward them, you will get value back, as opposed

1116
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 5: to you maybe someone who's just efficient, not explosive, someone

1117
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,359
Speaker 5: who's just explosive but not efficient. That's where you might

1118
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 5: get into the waters where you might regret that extension you.

1119
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 4: Brought up, Nick Chubb. I don't think the Browns are

1120
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,879
Speaker 4: at all regretting the decision there. I mean the forty

1121
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 4: nine ers gave up a pretty good haul to get

1122
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 4: Christian McCaffrey, but I don't think they even cared about

1123
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 4: what that compensation was because those are the kinds of

1124
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 4: players those players are, And I really do think that

1125
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 4: Jonathan Taylor, as I mentioned, we're biased, we see him

1126
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 4: every day, but I think he's absolutely in that category.

1127
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 4: And those are the things when Chris Paller talks about

1128
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 4: you play good, you pay good players regardless of the position.

1129
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 4: Jonathan Taylor falls into that category because he is a

1130
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 4: great player who, in my opinion, would deserve whatever contract

1131
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 4: extension or whatever it is, just because he is at

1132
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 4: the elite. When you come to the running.

1133
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:23,800
Speaker 3: Back room and you bring up Christian McCaffrey, you know,

1134
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 3: you look at the San Franco forty nin ers. He

1135
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 3: fits that system well. Someone that can run the ball

1136
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 3: hard and catch the ball out of the backfield. So

1137
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 3: he's fits that system well, so they they value him right.

1138
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 3: Same thing with Jonathan Taylor. You know he'll probably fit

1139
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 3: this system well, this Shamee. Stikeen's system where they're going

1140
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:40,800
Speaker 3: to have to they'll value Jonathan Taylor.

1141
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 4: So, like you said, it's team by team.

1142
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 3: So you warrant that. Okay, Jonathan Taylor fits this system.

1143
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 3: We're gonna pay him because we know we're gonna get production.

1144
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,320
Speaker 3: As you guys are talking, JJ mentioned, you mentioned Casey,

1145
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 3: We're gonna get production out of these guys. So we're

1146
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 3: gonna get our value out of these guys and what

1147
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 3: they can mean to the team, and not just on

1148
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,959
Speaker 3: the football field, but off the football field as well.

1149
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 3: Jonathan Tail is a leader. He's a leader, one of

1150
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 3: the leaders of this team. So that's value in itself.

1151
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 3: What he can do in the locker room, how he

1152
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 3: presents himself, how he goes to work each and every day,

1153
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 3: that is value for this team. So I think that

1154
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 3: he will bring the value that he will get the

1155
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 3: value that he deserves. As far as from the contract and.

1156
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 5: When you're establishing a culture and you're rewarding your own guys,

1157
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 5: that that does go huge. That is huge.

1158
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 4: Ye.

1159
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 5: All right, let's move on to my favorite part of

1160
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 5: the podcast. Every week, the Random Thought of the Week,

1161
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 5: Mate is out this week. We don't have the jingle,

1162
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:37,359
Speaker 5: no jingle, no jingle this.

1163
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 4: We can send me the jingle, Come on, Matt.

1164
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 5: So we we all got out and played a little golf.

1165
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 5: This last weekend, Casey, you got to play with some

1166
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 5: of your friends you hadn't seen a little while I

1167
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 5: got to. I played three times this weekend.

1168
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 3: Look at you.

1169
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 5: That was insane. Happy Father's Day weekend. There you go, Jack, Bill,

1170
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 5: you got out and you played in Anthony Calhoun's fundraise

1171
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 5: a outing. So I always think about this because I

1172
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 5: don't I'm not good enough to like really care about

1173
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 5: the golf balls that I use. So I'll go and

1174
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 5: I'll buy XI from play it against sports. But then,

1175
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:18,760
Speaker 5: you know, I hit my ball, you know, I played

1176
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 5: at Eagle Creek the other day, and I hit my

1177
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 5: ball into the like the deep heather, and I'm going,

1178
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 5: I'm rooting around for it. And I found a couple

1179
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 5: of you know, a couple of ice balls, and I

1180
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 5: grabbed those. I never played with them before. And the

1181
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 5: next hole I went and I hit those and I

1182
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 5: drove it probably like ten yards shorter than I'd been

1183
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 5: driving it using a titleist. So I got to thinking,

1184
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 5: does it really matter or did I just have like

1185
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 5: a worse swing on that drive? Does the golf ball matter? Bill?

1186
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:50,800
Speaker 5: Does the golf ball matter?

1187
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 4: Here we go?

1188
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 3: This is great, Okay, from a physical standpoint, I really

1189
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 3: don't know if it matters or not. But for me

1190
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 3: mental mentally, okay, matters for me what ball I'm playing.

1191
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 3: If I think I'm playing the ball that I'm comfortable with,

1192
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 3: which is usually a tylist or a bridge stone or

1193
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 3: tailor made, I play one of those three balls, I

1194
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 3: feel probably a little more comfortable, and I'll swing within myself.

1195
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 3: If there's a ball that I have on the tee

1196
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,439
Speaker 3: or I'm hitting off the ground and there's a ball

1197
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 3: that I'm not comfortable with, I probably try to swing

1198
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 3: a little bit harder, and I probably missed the ball

1199
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 3: and I probably don't hit it as well as I should.

1200
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 3: So for me, it's it's all mental. I don't know

1201
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 3: if it actually makes a difference if one ball flies

1202
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 3: further another or spends more. I know one ball spind

1203
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 3: might spend more than another, depending on the ball, but

1204
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:46,360
Speaker 3: as far as go further, I don't know. Physically.

1205
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 4: Mentally, yes, so right there with you, Bill, I am.

1206
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,799
Speaker 4: I don't know what the term is, but I think

1207
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:55,880
Speaker 4: it's just a problem. I think I have a problem.

1208
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 4: And what I do before I play is I pick

1209
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 4: out a brand, so in my bag, I have so

1210
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,280
Speaker 4: many golf balls. Yes, I have so many golf balls,

1211
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 4: from Callaway to top Flight to whatever it is. So like,

1212
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 4: I'll go in picking out a brand, and that's the

1213
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 4: ball that I will look for the entire time I play.

1214
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 4: If I happen to lose a ball, I go back

1215
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 4: into the bag. I have to find that ball. So like, yes,

1216
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,320
Speaker 4: let's let's take into consideration. So I golfed on Monday

1217
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 4: and I used here's a here's a shameless prug for

1218
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 4: a buddy of mine, he has started creating golf balls. Okay,

1219
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 4: he's from He's from where I grew up. He's one

1220
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 4: of my brother's best friends. He's a big shot attorney

1221
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 4: in California, and as a side business, he and a

1222
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 4: buddy are creating what are called breakfast balls. It's a

1223
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:43,839
Speaker 4: I'm sure you can go on the website and find him.

1224
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 4: But he sent me a package of breakfast balls at Christmas,

1225
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 4: and yesterday is my first day getting out. So I

1226
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:52,280
Speaker 4: was like, hey, Dylan, I'm gonna play your breakfast balls.

1227
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 4: I didn't lose a single golf ball yesterday. So here's

1228
00:56:56,440 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 4: my thing. Now Now I'm a big breakfast ball support.

1229
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 4: And it was so funny because yesterday there were three

1230
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 4: times where I had a ball that maybe a little

1231
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 4: awry and I'm looking and one of the things I

1232
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 4: did like is you ain't gonna find a breakfast ball

1233
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,800
Speaker 4: anywhere else because this is a very you know, almost

1234
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 4: like exclusive to just my brother's friends and maybe me

1235
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 4: and my dad who have these. So it was kind

1236
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 4: of a comforting feeling like you won't find the ball

1237
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 4: that I'm hitting. And maybe I almost felt that way

1238
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 4: of like I've got an exclusive golf ball yesterday, So

1239
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 4: that might be where my mind is now, But I

1240
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 4: am strictly like I have titleist Callaway and now breakfast

1241
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 4: ball is in one bag, part of my bag. All

1242
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 4: the other ones they just go into this bottom. And

1243
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 4: I'm sure they have no difference in my golf game,

1244
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 4: because like JJ said, he's not that good, I'm right

1245
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 4: in that same boat, like, yeah, I'm not good enough

1246
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 4: to really see a difference in golf ball, but mentap

1247
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 4: mentally absolutely all right.

1248
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 5: One other one about golf is golf the best sport

1249
00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 5: to yell at the TV at like ah just had

1250
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 5: a putt, Like I found myself doing that during the

1251
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 5: US Open, And I'm just like, wait a minute. If

1252
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 5: I was putting from all my green the same spot

1253
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 5: as Roy McElroy, I would five putt like like just

1254
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 5: hit a butt? What are you doing? And then I'm like, uh,

1255
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:18,919
Speaker 5: you know, hold on to me, golf is the best

1256
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 5: because it's the sport that like we all can play, right,

1257
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 5: Like I can't. Like, you know, I'm watching a football

1258
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 5: game and Joe Burrow sails a pass. I'm never like, God,

1259
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 5: what a terrible throw. I could No, I couldn't do that.

1260
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 5: I'm watching, you know, show Hey O Tani strike someone

1261
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 5: out and like just hit the slider. Help do that?

1262
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 5: You know, Like, golf to me is the one sport

1263
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 5: where you're like, yeah, I could hit that shot even

1264
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 5: if you can't, but you can envision yourself doing it.

1265
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 5: So I found myself during the US Open having to

1266
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 5: catch myself a bunch when Rory kept hitting greens in

1267
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 5: regulation and then parring everything, just like, God, just one butt,

1268
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 5: you could do it. I could make that putt. No,

1269
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 5: I couldn't.

1270
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 4: I like to think that I and this has nothing

1271
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 4: to do with me that are feeling like an I'm

1272
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 4: a player, but I react to watching sports just like

1273
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 4: all the players in the locker room, where I am

1274
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 4: very opinionated. There's people like, man, you're not fun to

1275
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 4: w Like I go to Super Bowl parties, I don't

1276
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 4: enjoy it because I'm like, I don't want to hear

1277
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 4: what you have to say, because I've got my own

1278
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 4: way of watching. Like my wife, I feel sorry for

1279
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 4: her if she ever watches any sporting events with me,

1280
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 4: because she's like, oh, well, I'm gonna go upstairs because

1281
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 4: that's how I am. I watch a baseball game, like, seriously,

1282
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 4: what are you waiting on? I mean, that's the pitch

1283
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 4: to hit. What are you doing? Or you know, you're

1284
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 4: watching golf and you're like, man, you're one hundred and

1285
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Speaker 4: twenty out and you just left yourself thirty feet like,

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Speaker 4: come on, hit it close. I'm the same way, And

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Speaker 4: then I'll go out there and I do the exact

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Speaker 4: same thing, and I'm like, Okay, maybe I should temper

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Speaker 4: it down. But then I start watching and I do

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Speaker 4: the same thing week in and week out. So I

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Speaker 4: don't know golf, I would say, yes, I'm the same

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Speaker 4: way with baseball. I'm the same way with you know,

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Speaker 4: I see a guy miss five free throws, I'm like, dude,

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00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 4: don't you practice. Come on, it's a free throw. So

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Speaker 4: I'm the same way. I'm a terrible guy at spectating sports.

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Speaker 5: See, I'm the worst guy to watch sports with because

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Speaker 5: because I like with football and Bill, I'm sure you

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Speaker 5: can like speak to this too, like you have you

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Speaker 5: played the game so you can speak to it even more.

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Speaker 5: But like you know, you're watching football and it's just like,

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Speaker 5: what what kind of play was that? Like what's going on?

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Speaker 5: And I'm like, well, you know, it looks like the

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Speaker 5: receiver's depth was a little bit off, Like that wasn't

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Speaker 5: a bad throat. I was really on the receiver, like

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Speaker 5: you know. And then they're just like, can you just

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Speaker 5: shut up for a second and let me watch this

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Speaker 5: game in peace? Like a I I get that from

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Speaker 5: my wife all the time.

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Speaker 3: I do that in football and I see a play happen,

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Speaker 3: I try to figure out why why did the play

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Speaker 3: not work? You know, not so much with the play

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Speaker 3: rock or you know, hey, this guy made a great

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01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:37,439
Speaker 3: catch or this guy, Oh, that's a nice movie made

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Speaker 3: on the linebacker and to break free. So I'll say

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Speaker 3: that or whatever. But I even don't say too much

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Speaker 3: now when it comes to golf, I don't with those guys.

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Speaker 3: I don't say anything because I was thinking back when

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Speaker 3: I was watching US Open a few days ago. These

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Speaker 3: guys are hitting the ball two hundred and some odd

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Speaker 3: yards in a par three and they're using seven eyes.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, I can't do that. Okay, that's not happening. Yes,

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Speaker 3: that's not that's not happening to me. And they're hitting

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Speaker 3: it on the green and rolling it up to about

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Speaker 3: you know, six feet four feet from the hole. I

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Speaker 3: was like, I can't do that. So with the golf,

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Speaker 3: to me, I think those guys are amazing what they do.

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Speaker 3: And then you look at you know, the courses I play.

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Speaker 3: Some of them are difficult, but like the US Open,

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Speaker 3: they're not anywhere near as difficult of those guys as

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Speaker 3: far as the speed of the greens, the depth of

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Speaker 3: the rough. So I said, you know what, you guys

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Speaker 3: are unique. You guys are good at what you do.

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Speaker 3: I cannot do that. So I just marvel at what

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Speaker 3: they do on a day and day base. And to

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Speaker 3: do it four days in a row.

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Speaker 5: Yes, ye, to do it four days in the row,

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Speaker 5: three days in a row, and my body felt exact.

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Speaker 4: But also, when's the last time that you took a

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Speaker 4: shot and you had five hundred people staring at you exactly.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how they do that, Like there's something

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Speaker 4: to be said about just that part, Like, Yeah, I

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Speaker 4: would love to have a gallery for when I hit

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01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 4: my ball left and someone goes and finds it. But

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't be able to strike that ball on the

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Speaker 4: tee when I have all those people around me watching

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Speaker 4: and even I mean the slightest Oh what, no way,

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01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 4: there's a lot of that part that I'm like, that

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01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 4: takes a different kind of guy to be able to

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Speaker 4: stand there and do what they do.

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Speaker 5: For sure, Well, shut out, shut out to those because

1351
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 5: I felt bad the amount I was yelling at the

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Speaker 5: TV Windom Clark. Did anybody know Wyndham Clark was before

1353
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 5: this shot? I did? I did Like his caddie kept

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01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 5: telling him, be an athlete. Be an athlete because you

1355
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Speaker 5: don't think of golfers, is right, But.

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Speaker 3: They are, they are, they are athletes.

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Speaker 5: All right? Well that is going to do it for

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Speaker 5: this episode of the Official Colts Podcast presented by win Bet,

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Speaker 5: coming up this week on the Colt Audio Network, The

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Speaker 5: Colts Reunion Podcast is back. Bill, You sat down along

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01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 5: with Matt Taylor with a couple of Colts players from

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Speaker 5: your past. The first guest coming up is Dallas Clark.

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Speaker 5: That episode will be out on Wednesday. That was a

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Speaker 5: really interesting episode. He talked about how he's running a

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Speaker 5: family farm back in Iowa, why you move back to Iowa,

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01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 5: what inspired him to become an Ironman triathlete, which is

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Speaker 5: it man? And by the way, the guy who inspired

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Speaker 5: him to become an Ironman triathlete? Very interesting, very very

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Speaker 5: notable inj Car Driver. Yes, And he also talked about

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Speaker 5: some memories about being a vital weapon in the Colts

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Speaker 5: offense and going from being a guy who looked around

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Speaker 5: to the huddle to Marvin Harrison and Peyton Manning and

1373
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 5: Reggie Wayne and being like what am I doing here?

1374
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 5: To being one of the most important members of the

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Speaker 5: Colts dominant offense of the two thousand so again, that

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Speaker 5: episode of the Colts Union Podcast will be out on Wednesday.

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Speaker 5: On Thursday, the Person behind the Pads podcast is back.

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01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 5: Lara Overton is with Julian Blackman talking about his childhood

1379
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 5: and some of the roles that music and sports played

1380
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:58,439
Speaker 5: in his formative years. Also how his older brothers helped

1381
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 5: him get ready for the riggers of life in the NFL.

1382
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Speaker 5: We have a couple more of those coming up too.

1383
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 5: Matt Taylor sat down with Shane Steichen That's gonna be

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Speaker 5: a good one. And I had a fascinating chat with

1385
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Speaker 5: Jonathan Taylor about everything from growing up in a small

1386
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Speaker 5: town to astronomy to his thoughts on space travel. We're like,

1387
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Speaker 5: so enlightening. I was like, this is great. I'm digging it.

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Speaker 4: There's just something different about Jonathan Taylor.

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Speaker 5: Love talking. I mean love it.

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Speaker 4: You you talk about fascinating conversation, Like, I've never had

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Speaker 4: a bad conversation with that guy. There's a lot going

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01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 4: on in Jonathan Taylor's head and then he goes out

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Speaker 4: and dominates on Sundays.

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Speaker 5: It's it's pretty compressed. So keep an eye up for

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Speaker 5: those podcasts coming up in the next couple of weeks. Also,

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Speaker 5: if you haven't listened to it, last week, I sat

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Speaker 5: down with DeForrest Buckner. Awesome talk about being a dad.

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Speaker 5: We ran that one before Father's Day and yeah, what

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Speaker 5: what a what a guy to Forrest bucking oh Man,

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Speaker 5: Like just the way that he handles being a professional

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Speaker 5: football player and everything it takes for him to get

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Speaker 5: ready for Sundays while also intentionally spending time with his kids. Yeah,

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01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 5: and his wife. A really good conversation with Buck if

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Speaker 5: you haven't caught up on that one. The last word

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Speaker 5: is back on Friday, Casey, you and Jeffrey talking quarterbacks.

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Speaker 4: We're hopefully Jeffrey. You know, with Jeffreys are unknown, so

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Speaker 4: you know, I reached out to him yesterday and didn't

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Speaker 4: hear a response, So I'm hoping we can coordinate with

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Speaker 4: Jeffrey on a time. But yeah, we're talking quarterbacks. We've

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Speaker 4: we've gone through the positional previews kind of all the

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Speaker 4: way through, so we're we're to that point now where

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Speaker 4: we're getting to talk some quarterback chatter. We've got, you know,

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Speaker 4: Anthony Richardson, Gardner Minshew and Shane Steike and all have

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Speaker 4: a little bit of clips here we'll throw in, but

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Speaker 4: it should be some good, good conversations with gore Man

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Speaker 4: on Friday.

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Speaker 5: All right, Well, that is going to do it for

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Speaker 5: us here on the Cult Audio Network. Arember to rate,

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Speaker 5: review and subscribe to us wherever you get in podcasts,

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Speaker 5: download us on Spotify, on Apple podcasts. You can watch

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Speaker 5: these podcasts on YouTube. Just the audio version You can

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Speaker 5: also watch some of the person behind the Pads podcasts

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Speaker 5: the actual interviews pretty close. Check those out on YouTube.

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Speaker 5: Subscribe difficult YouTube page as well. Anyways, four Jacy Valier

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Speaker 5: and Bill Brooks, I'm JJ sank of Its. Thank you

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Speaker 5: so much for listening to us here on the official

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Speaker 5: Cults podcast, presented by Windbeck. Talking next week.