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Speaker 1: why do I have Steph Curry at number two? Like

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Speaker 1: I said yesterday, I view a clear cut top tier

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Speaker 1: the last three guys who all in the last twenty

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Speaker 1: Those three are clearly a level above the rest of

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Speaker 1: imagine being James Wiseman or Jonathan Kminga in particular, players

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Speaker 1: He certainly could, It's just it's not what he needs

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Speaker 1: Just so you guys know, this is actually a crazy stat.

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Speaker 1: or not he's making that pull up three. But when

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Speaker 1: it comes to Steph Curry and Nikole Jokic, they're the

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Speaker 1: only players in this league or no matter what you do,

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Speaker 1: no matter what you throw at them, you cannot stop

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Speaker 1: them in their offense from consistently generating high quality shots

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Speaker 1: which are going to go in over the course of

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Speaker 1: a game and certainly over the course of a series.

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Speaker 1: There's no coverage they can't beat. Like again, the Lakers

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Speaker 1: literally threw everything at Steph Curry in that series, and

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Speaker 1: there was just nothing that he couldn't solve. There's no

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Speaker 1: adjustment that Steph can't make to find an opening. No

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Speaker 1: matter how great your defense is. Steph is the very

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Speaker 1: best shot maker in the league. He is consistently a

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Speaker 1: threat with or without the basketball, and he's worked incredibly

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Speaker 1: hard to turn himself into a positive defensive player despite

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Speaker 1: his physical limitations. And lastly, and this is the last

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Speaker 1: thing I want to say on the Steph Curry front,

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Speaker 1: He's got a nasty streak. He is one of the

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Speaker 1: most competitive players in the league. I talk a lot

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Speaker 1: about this idea of the difference between loving basketball and

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Speaker 1: hating losing. In my time playing the game, I've met

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Speaker 1: so many players that are incredibly talented, but when I'm

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Speaker 1: in a situation, whether it's in an open gym when

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Speaker 1: I was in college or pick up basketball here in

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Speaker 1: town now as an adult, like I would see that

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Speaker 1: guy and I'd be like, man, he's super talented, but

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Speaker 1: I'd rather not play with him today, not because of

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Speaker 1: touches or anything like that, but because I don't think

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Speaker 1: he hates it's losing enough. And I have a feeling

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Speaker 1: that even if he makes a couple of nice plays,

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Speaker 1: that it's gonna be a hard it's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: chore to win this game because he's just not gonna

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Speaker 1: give a shit enough about doing all of those things

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Speaker 1: and like, and that's just something as I've grown older,

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Speaker 1: I've noticed the difference between that with players. And then

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Speaker 1: you'll meet a lot of guys like I'm even in

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Speaker 1: my time coaching in high school, there are specific players

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Speaker 1: where it's like he's not as talented as the dude

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Speaker 1: that's in front of him in the rotation. But like

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Speaker 1: sometimes like us and the coaching staff would decide, like, hey,

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Speaker 1: we should play him instead, because like he's just gonna

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Speaker 1: go out there and freaking fight. He's just gonna fight,

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Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, winning basketball games

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Speaker 1: is like fifty percent talent, skill execution, and fifty percent

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Speaker 1: of it is just a knockdown, drag out fight. And like,

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Speaker 1: that's what I love about Steph is like there's a

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Speaker 1: nastiness to him. There's a fight to him, and he

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Speaker 1: is obviously the most gifted shot maker in the league,

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Speaker 1: but none of that matters if he's not nasty. And

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Speaker 1: Steph also has that nasty he's been. You know what's

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Speaker 1: funny because like I during the Steph Lebron rivalry in

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Speaker 1: the mid twenty ten's, I was younger, right, So I

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Speaker 1: was like, what in my early mid twenties, what twenty

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Speaker 1: four to twenty five years old, And I couldn't stay

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Speaker 1: in Steph obviously because I was rooting against him all

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Speaker 1: the time, and I was a big Lebron fan. Also,

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Speaker 1: I was just younger, so I struggled to compartmentalized stuff,

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Speaker 1: and as I've grown older, like I have just completely

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Speaker 1: fallen in love with Steph's game. And it's funny now

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Speaker 1: looking back, because like he's legitimately my second favorite player

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Speaker 1: in the league behind Lebron, and I like absolutely love

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Speaker 1: watching him play and I've become such a huge fan

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Speaker 1: of his and like it took time and distance from

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Speaker 1: that to kind of figure it out, but like I

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Speaker 1: it's just been kind of a cool like journey as

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Speaker 1: a fan to kind of see the difference in the

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Speaker 1: way that I viewed Stephan now versus the way that

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Speaker 1: I viewed him ten years ago or so I should say,

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Speaker 1: like eight seven, eight years ago. Hey, guys, that puts

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Speaker 1: Steph at number two. We got number one tomorrow, big shock,

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Speaker 1: It's going to be Nicole Jokic. I'm excited to talk

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Speaker 1: about that for a little bit tomorrow, and then heading

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Speaker 1: into next week, we're gonna be doing our all time

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Speaker 1: player rankings. Actually, I think we're just looking at the

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Speaker 1: last twenty five years to basically everything post MJ. So

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Speaker 1: that'll be fun as well. Three weeks of that, and

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Speaker 1: then we have three weeks of season previews heading into

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Speaker 1: training camp, and from there we'll be breaking down actual basketball.

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Speaker 1: That's all I have for today is always I sincerely

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Speaker 1: appreciate you guys, and I will see you tomorrow. The

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