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Speaker 4: Discover the subject matter for yourself. Hi. I'm Sandra Champlain.
Speaker 4: For over twenty five years, I've been on a journey
Speaker 4: to prove the existence of life after death.
Speaker 3: On each episode, will discuss the reasons we now know
Speaker 3: that our loved ones have survived physical doubt.
Speaker 4: And so will we. Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife.
Speaker 4: Have you ever heard someone say that something is bittersweet,
Speaker 4: meaning that it's sad but can also be happy. I
Speaker 4: woke up this morning feeling very happy and very tired,
Speaker 4: and I have some really good news to share. And
Speaker 4: it's also the fifteenth anniversary of my dad's passing, so inside,
Speaker 4: of course, there's all kinds of memories that come up
Speaker 4: with an anniversary like that. But then I think of
Speaker 4: the chain of events that brought me here with you today,
Speaker 4: and we couldn't be here without my dad passing exactly
Speaker 4: the way he did. Me hitting rock bottom to discover
Speaker 4: the world of grief and why people do some crazy
Speaker 4: things while grieving and relationships come apart, followed by my
Speaker 4: third to discover as much information about the afterlife? Is
Speaker 4: it real? How do we communicate? And certainly I learned
Speaker 4: a bunch before my dad passed, and then after he died,
Speaker 4: I wanted to know even more, which eventually led me
Speaker 4: to writing my book We Don't Die, a skeptics discovery
Speaker 4: of life after death, followed by my podcast which still
Speaker 4: exists on YouTube called We Don't Die, where I still
Speaker 4: interview people one on one. And then as magic happened,
Speaker 4: that wonderful call from producer Tom from Coast to Coast
Speaker 4: am asking if I would be the host of Shades
Speaker 4: of the Afterlife. So many years later, my heart is
Speaker 4: filled with love and none of that could have happened
Speaker 4: without Dad going just the way he did and when
Speaker 4: he did fifteen years ago. So Dad, this one's for you,
Speaker 4: and also my friends. What may seem like the worst
Speaker 4: pain and grief you could ever imagine right now, you
Speaker 4: never know a few years in the future how your
Speaker 4: words and your journey might be the thing that someone
Speaker 4: else needs to hear, or it could lead you to
Speaker 4: a place you couldn't even dream of. Now, Why did
Speaker 4: I wake up so tired and yet so happy? I
Speaker 4: have had a secret project going on the past few months.
Speaker 4: You've heard probably my episodes with Scott Milligan and mister Eric,
Speaker 4: who speaks through Scott in the Trance State. If you haven't,
Speaker 4: the words are spectacular. Over the past five years, we've
Speaker 4: held these question and answer sessions about life, death and
Speaker 4: the afterlife, and I've compiled the top questions that have
Speaker 4: been asked of our friend in the afterlife. I've had
Speaker 4: them transcribed, and secretly I've been putting them all together
Speaker 4: into a book. The news is when I woke up
Speaker 4: this morning, the book was on Amazon ready for purchase.
Speaker 4: Today is also the anniversary of Scott when he first
Speaker 4: began sitting as a medium twenty eight years ago. Is
Speaker 4: it a coincidence that Amazon had it ready the same
Speaker 4: day as his anniversary. I don't know, but it sure
Speaker 4: is reason for celebration. So I was up at three
Speaker 4: in the morning, got the news from Amazon, shared it
Speaker 4: with Scott. I'm sharing it with the world. The book
Speaker 4: is called Conversations with Eric, Life, Death and the Afterlife
Speaker 4: through the Closed Eyes of a Trance Medium. Today, on
Speaker 4: our show, we're going to celebrate. I want to read
Speaker 4: some from the book, and I want to play for
Speaker 4: you some words from Eric that only a few other
Speaker 4: people have heard, a question that I asked him this
Speaker 4: past week in one of our classes. So sit back, relax,
Speaker 4: and let me read a little to you. First, I'd
Speaker 4: like to read Scott Milligan's introduction on May second, nineteen
Speaker 4: ninety seven. My journey as a physical medium began when
Speaker 4: I was only a teenager. I sat with strangers once
Speaker 4: a week in John Austin's home circle, and the seed
Speaker 4: began to grow within me. On that very first sitting,
Speaker 4: the question was asked, is anyone there? Then mighty bangs
Speaker 4: sounded on the wall that made me jump on the
Speaker 4: eleventh sitting a voice manifested in the air, separate from anyone,
Speaker 4: and the voice called out from the dark. After that,
Speaker 4: nothing for two and a half years. But within those years,
Speaker 4: every night I sat in the home circles of others,
Speaker 4: including Colin Fry, Stuart Alexander, David Thompson, and Joan Avison.
Speaker 4: These four people had the gift of physical mediumship. They
Speaker 4: sat and through their senses, unbelievable things occurred. I didn't
Speaker 4: realize that I was developing within those home circles as
Speaker 4: I was being used in service of others. Two and
Speaker 4: a half year years later, the mist in the air
Speaker 4: seemed to intensify again, this feeling, this presence started to build.
Speaker 4: The invisible voices in my home circle started to whisper. Then,
Speaker 4: from deep within me, a voice started to say the
Speaker 4: word yes. I couldn't tell you where it came from,
Speaker 4: but it felt as it came from my stomach. Over time,
Speaker 4: this word yes kept repeating in my mind, feeling like
Speaker 4: it was getting bigger and bigger. I couldn't move away
Speaker 4: from it, so I thought, well, I'm just going to
Speaker 4: say it. When I spoke, Instead of the word yes
Speaker 4: coming out, it sounded like yesh. Every time I wanted
Speaker 4: to say yes, it came out yes, and I couldn't
Speaker 4: control it. Suddenly the voice broke again and said yes,
Speaker 4: So now we come to speak to our brothers and
Speaker 4: sisters of the joining of our world and yours. That
Speaker 4: voice that seemed to have come from me started to
Speaker 4: move me from believing to knowing that the these unseen
Speaker 4: people were a part of my life. Very rapidly. In
Speaker 4: over the next few sittings, the voice started to get
Speaker 4: stronger and stronger. That was the beginning of my relationship
Speaker 4: with my workers, my friends morning Star, Daniel and Eric,
Speaker 4: who speak through me while I am in the trance state.
Speaker 4: Morning Star was the first to come and spoke the words,
Speaker 4: so now we come to speak to our brothers and
Speaker 4: sisters of the joining of our World's morning Star, while
Speaker 4: he was on Earth, was known as Dull Knife, and
Speaker 4: he was a great chief of the Cheyenne people in America.
Speaker 4: He would come frequently in the early days to win
Speaker 4: the reason of the circle. Daniel is my younger friend
Speaker 4: who calls everyone ducks or duckies. Daniel brings joy and
Speaker 4: humor to the circle, which builds the necessary power for
Speaker 4: phenomena to occur. Mister Eric Robert Johnston is a Victorian
Speaker 4: man and his education is beyond my comprehension. He communicates
Speaker 4: regularly through me and our trance demonstrations. Eric never shies
Speaker 4: away from a question and always answers with dignity and respect.
Speaker 4: Eric reminds us that he is not a guide, he
Speaker 4: is a friend. He often reminds me of the importance
Speaker 4: of being of service, not having a big ego. One time,
Speaker 4: when I became quite big headed, Eric said to me,
Speaker 4: if you desire to be a star, my boy, you will,
Speaker 4: But all stars fade and turn to dust. Those who
Speaker 4: contribute to humanity will live forever in the hearts and
Speaker 4: minds of your tomorrows. Eric's philosophy is profound and thought provoking,
Speaker 4: and he never hesitates in his speech. When I talk,
Speaker 4: I stutter a little with a few ums and things
Speaker 4: like that. There's none of that in the spirit world,
Speaker 4: which shows their intelligence. When a medium is under the
Speaker 4: influence of the spirit, their words seem to flow like
Speaker 4: a river. At one of the trance question and answer sessions,
Speaker 4: we had a high ranking member of the police force attend.
Speaker 4: While while I was entranced, this very educated man was
Speaker 4: speaking to Eric about physics, and Eric was answering his
Speaker 4: questions easily. I am dyslexic and was found to be
Speaker 4: dyslexic at the late age of eleven. They said, I
Speaker 4: had a reading age of about five years old. I'm
Speaker 4: not very educated and failed all my GCSE exams, only
Speaker 4: getting c's and d's. You will witness Eric's high level
Speaker 4: of education on the following pages. Also, Eric is very clever.
Speaker 4: He will answer questions that someone has not verbalized and
Speaker 4: only thought about. Eric and my other friends remind me
Speaker 4: that those in the spirit world are but a foot away.
Speaker 4: Although he has asked many questions, Eric often says there
Speaker 4: are no answers, there are only questions that lead to
Speaker 4: greater questions. He is a humble friend and shares that
Speaker 4: the words he speaks are not only his words, but
Speaker 4: they are the voice of many. He refers to me
Speaker 4: as the one we love what trancey is and what
Speaker 4: the experience feels like. I simply close my eyes and
Speaker 4: just sit there, usually listening to three songs, not trying
Speaker 4: to pay attention to my busy mind. During those songs,
Speaker 4: I feel quite heavy, as if I'm going to sleep.
Speaker 4: My spirit friends gently blend their energy with mine to
Speaker 4: use my vocal chords to speak through me. The voice
Speaker 4: may change, It may sound older or younger. It may
Speaker 4: sound like someone who lived long ago. My friends who
Speaker 4: work with me once lived earthly lives that can be proven.
Speaker 4: This is true trance mediumship, which people confuse with channeling.
Speaker 4: Channeling cannot be proven. Many believe they are channeling angels,
Speaker 4: ascended masters, and guides, but channeling comes from the soul.
Speaker 4: Channeling can bring some powerful words of philosophy, but trance
Speaker 4: involves a discarnate mind of someone who once walked this earth.
Speaker 4: Life changed for us all in March twenty twenty. I
Speaker 4: had been trayed traveling, teaching and demonstrating trance and physical mediumship,
Speaker 4: but that was all put on pause when the COVID
Speaker 4: nineteen pandemic impacted the planet. My good friend Sandra Champlain
Speaker 4: encouraged me to begin teaching and demonstrating trance mediumship online.
Speaker 4: As we were all in lockdown and people were interested,
Speaker 4: we began. I am grateful that people who had no
Speaker 4: prior knowledge of physical and trance mediumship were interested in
Speaker 4: developing their medium abilities. Many just wanted to quiet their
Speaker 4: busy minds to feel the love from their family and
Speaker 4: friends who have passed away. Many now have discovered the
Speaker 4: power of home circles and are inviting their spirit friends
Speaker 4: into their homes weekly. Although the world has opened and
Speaker 4: I am traveling again, we still have our Zoom online classes.
Speaker 4: In addition, over the years, we have held many online
Speaker 4: events called in the Arms of Eternity, where people from
Speaker 4: all over the world join us on Zoom. We begin
Speaker 4: by sending healing to all of those in need. Gentle
Speaker 4: music plays in the background as I lead the group
Speaker 4: into this healing. At some point, that sleepy feeling comes
Speaker 4: over me. My voice becomes quiet, and I drift into
Speaker 4: the trance state. I am told by Sandra that usually
Speaker 4: after twenty minutes, the voice of Eric speaks through me
Speaker 4: and delivers words of philosophy for all. Then members of
Speaker 4: our group are invited to ask Eric questions or to
Speaker 4: have him speak on topics regarding life, death, or the afterlife.
Speaker 4: At the time of this book publication, we have well
Speaker 4: over two hundred hours of these sittings. Conversations with Eric
Speaker 4: was compiled from transcripts of actual sittings, containing some of
Speaker 4: Eric's most powerful words on the most requested subjects. Eric's
Speaker 4: words are profound, enlightening, and comforting. It is my sincere
Speaker 4: wish that mister Eric Robert Johnston's words and philosophy find
Speaker 4: their way into the hearts and minds of many. Scott
Speaker 4: Milligan more words.
Speaker 3: From the book, and we'll hear from the actual Eric
Speaker 3: when we get back. You're listening to Shades of the
Speaker 3: Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast, a m
Speaker 3: paranormal podcast network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife.
Speaker 3: I'm Sandra Champlain, and we're celebrating the release of the
Speaker 3: new book Conversations with Eric Life, Death, and the Afterlife
Speaker 3: through the closed Eyes of a Trance Medium. I'm not
Speaker 3: only the publisher. I wrote the forward, so I'll read
Speaker 3: that to you now and you'll get a little more
Speaker 3: understanding of why this is so important to me. I
Speaker 3: would have never imagined spending over two hundred hours of
Speaker 3: my life talking to an old dead man. Not just
Speaker 3: any dead man, but the wisest, most compassionate, loving and
Speaker 3: non judgmental gentleman named mister Eric Robert Johnston, who lived
Speaker 3: in the Victorian era in England and passed away near
Speaker 3: the end of the eighteen hundreds. You see, I was
Speaker 3: a skeptic about the afterlife, mediums and all talk of
Speaker 3: other worldly people, places, or beings. I wasn't just skeptical.
Speaker 3: I had a big ego and spoke very negatively of
Speaker 3: people interested in spirituality or the metaphysical.
Speaker 4: So what happened? I developed a huge fear of dying
Speaker 4: that led me on a quest to determine for myself
Speaker 4: if there was any evidence of the afterlife. I'm pleased
Speaker 4: to say there is, and there is a lot of it.
Speaker 4: I have dedicated well over twenty five years of my
Speaker 4: life to studying the various reasons to believe, authored and
Speaker 4: international best selling book titled We Don't Die, a skeptics
Speaker 4: Discovery of Life after Death, and I host two podcasts,
Speaker 4: We Don't Die and Shades of the Afterlife, which together
Speaker 4: encompass well over seven hundred hours of episodes featuring conversations
Speaker 4: with experts and everyday folks on the many reasons to
Speaker 4: believe that we survive physical death. There are numerous reasons
Speaker 4: to believe in the afterlife. Some of my favorites include
Speaker 4: vertical near death experiences, induced after death, communication therapy, deathbed
Speaker 4: visitations and the world of audio and visual trans communication. However,
Speaker 4: the one that brings me the most comfort are our
Speaker 4: conversations with Eric. In November twenty sixteen, during my never
Speaker 4: ending search for afterlife evidence, I was introduced to a
Speaker 4: young man named Scott Milligan. I had heard about physical mediumship,
Speaker 4: a rare form of communication where voices of discarnate spirits
Speaker 4: could be heard in the darkness of a seance room.
Speaker 4: These voices were said to be those of our deceased
Speaker 4: loved ones and others spirit helpers, doing their best to
Speaker 4: prove that our consciousness continues after physical death through the
Speaker 4: phenomena they deliver. Of course, this sounded too good to
Speaker 4: be true, but there is only one way to find out.
Speaker 4: So I took a three thousand mile journey from my
Speaker 4: home in the United States to a small town in
Speaker 4: southeastern England. I have always been so passionate about investigating
Speaker 4: the afterlife, knowing firsthand the difference it would make to
Speaker 4: others who fear death or have experienced deep grief after
Speaker 4: the passing of a loved one. The five day retreat
Speaker 4: opened to my eyes and heart in a way nothing
Speaker 4: else could. I experienced three kinds of mediumship, evidential, physical
Speaker 4: and trance. My heart was filled with love seeing evidential
Speaker 4: mediums giving platform demonstrations, delivering words from loved ones in
Speaker 4: the spirit world. We received training and experienced that we
Speaker 4: are all mediums and how the spirit world communicates through
Speaker 4: our thoughts and feelings ways we previously thought was just
Speaker 4: our imagination. I will save my experience with physical mediumship
Speaker 4: for Scott's next book, but what I can tell you
Speaker 4: is that it brought the joy of Christmas back to me.
Speaker 4: Voices do communicate in the darkness. Phenomena occurred that was
Speaker 4: so joyful, and all who witnessed it were left in
Speaker 4: a state of awe and filled with love for humanity
Speaker 4: and the unseen world. Toward the end of the retreat,
Speaker 4: I had my first experience of trance mediumship. This young
Speaker 4: man named Scott Milligan sat in front of the group
Speaker 4: and closed his eyes. Music was played that seemed to
Speaker 4: lull him into a different state of consciousness. After some time,
Speaker 4: a much different voice spoke from Scott's mouth. This was
Speaker 4: the voice of Eric. Eric speaks in a way that
Speaker 4: we do not speak today, filled with pleasantries and proper etiquette.
Speaker 4: He has a deep voice and used some vocabulary that
Speaker 4: was used long ago. During Scott's trance demonstration, Eric shared
Speaker 4: words of philosophy about life, death, and the reality of
Speaker 4: the afterlife. I hung onto every word and was overjoyed
Speaker 4: at what I was witnessing. Eric asked the audience if
Speaker 4: we had any questions. With a mix of curiosity and uncertainty,
Speaker 4: I introduced myself to Eric. Eric always asks I trust
Speaker 4: you or well. I told him I was well. Indeed,
Speaker 4: the question I had was about suffering. My dad passed
Speaker 4: away from cancer and suffered terribly at the end. I
Speaker 4: wanted to know why we human beings must endure pain
Speaker 4: and suffering and if it served any purpose. Eric's answer
Speaker 4: was lengthy, but here are some words that comforted me.
Speaker 4: In his response, Well, I have to say to you
Speaker 4: it does help to enrich the soul's experience because you
Speaker 4: won't experience it in our world. Suffering is a byproduct
Speaker 4: of being alive. Your body is fragile and filled with senses.
Speaker 4: The body is a miracle. Once you are born, it
Speaker 4: starts to kill itself, but it kills itself so you
Speaker 4: can renew. In our world, if you are to cut
Speaker 4: into the skin, it causes such pain, but The body
Speaker 4: then learns how to cope with the cut, and it
Speaker 4: starts to bring what has been separated back together. But
Speaker 4: I have to say to you that when you are
Speaker 4: alive and experience pain for yourself, it is terribly distressing.
Speaker 4: The only hope I can give you is that it
Speaker 4: lasts only for a short period of time, and when
Speaker 4: you come to our side of life, the physical pain
Speaker 4: goes back to the earth. You arrive in the state
Speaker 4: of familiarity, where everything is familiar to you, and you
Speaker 4: receive the proper education, are reunited with your love ones,
Speaker 4: and then you can move into the greater world of spirit.
Speaker 4: We hear the cry of those who are left behind,
Speaker 4: and no matter how loudly we shout, we are still
Speaker 4: with you. Sadly, your earthly ears do not hear us,
Speaker 4: so we must come to you in dreams. But then
Speaker 4: when you are awake and tears stream down your face,
Speaker 4: you say, oh, it was only a dream, and we
Speaker 4: must work incredibly hard to convince you to allow you
Speaker 4: to live again. We draw close to give you a
Speaker 4: healing bomb to wipe away those tears, and embrace you
Speaker 4: and tell you that it will be okay. In your world.
Speaker 4: People leave you and our world people join you, and
Speaker 4: so they will leave you for a moment in your
Speaker 4: world physically. But when it is your time, when our
Speaker 4: world surrounds you, we get excited that you are arriving.
Speaker 4: A sense of peace will wash over you, a sense
Speaker 4: of calm because you, your soul knows the natural progression
Speaker 4: to our world. So, in answer to your question, pain
Speaker 4: is a byproduct of being alive, but you will not
Speaker 4: experience it in our world. Those words made such a
Speaker 4: difference for me, and in another question, I learned that
Speaker 4: if the body is suffering, the soul can move to
Speaker 4: the unseen world even before the body dies. None of
Speaker 4: us wish to suffer or want our loved ones to
Speaker 4: experience pain. The next four years, I spent as much
Speaker 4: time as I could with Scott and his spirit team.
Speaker 4: I made regular trips to London, taking a taxi an
Speaker 4: hour and a half each way, just to discover trance
Speaker 4: and have an opportunity to sit with Scott, my soul
Speaker 4: and the spirit world. I am pleased to know that
Speaker 4: we all have our own spirit teams, and that Eric
Speaker 4: and Scott's other friends are companions to us all, and
Speaker 4: that love is always available to us from the invisible
Speaker 4: world around us. Quieting the mind is the way to
Speaker 4: communicate with our soul, our loved ones, and those invisible
Speaker 4: that accompany us in our lives. Scott and I quickly
Speaker 4: became good friends, and in twenty twenty we began offering
Speaker 4: Trance and the Altered States classes on Zoom and weekly
Speaker 4: sessions called in the Arms of Eternity, sending much needed
Speaker 4: healing to the people of the world, followed by a
Speaker 4: demonstration of trance. I have been the host and facilitator
Speaker 4: of these online sessions. Scott begins by gently leading us
Speaker 4: into healing, listening to soft music, and then becomes quiet,
Speaker 4: inviting his friends to join him. All sessions are experimental
Speaker 4: and we never know what is going to happen. However,
Speaker 4: what typically happens is Eric speaks through Scott, providing philosophy
Speaker 4: on a topic that is important to him. Then there's
Speaker 4: always an opportunity for our Zoom audience to ask questions
Speaker 4: or have Eric speak on a topic of their choosing.
Speaker 4: Audience members type their questions in the question and answer
Speaker 4: box on Zoom, and I am the only person who
Speaker 4: can see those questions. From time to time, Eric surprises
Speaker 4: me and reads the questions before I am able to
Speaker 4: voice them. I've often wondered if he can see through
Speaker 4: my eyes, but he assures me that he knows the
Speaker 4: questions in people's hearts. Over the past few years, we
Speaker 4: have had hundreds of hours of words from mister Eric.
Speaker 4: He says that although his voice is the voice we hear,
Speaker 4: he is the voice of many who work with him,
Speaker 4: doing their very best to comfort and empower those of
Speaker 4: us here on earth. Within these pages you will discover
Speaker 4: the most frequently asked questions about topics important to us.
Speaker 4: All these questions have been answered and transcribed from our sessions.
Speaker 4: They have been and edited only slightly for correct punctuation
Speaker 4: and for ease of reading, but the passionate words are
Speaker 4: from our friend Eric. One final note. Out of the
Speaker 4: twenty five plus years I have been investigating the afterlife,
Speaker 4: the best and most comforting evidence I know and look
Speaker 4: forward to is our conversations with Eric. I trust you
Speaker 4: will enjoy his words and invite you to join us
Speaker 4: sometime for our in the arms of eternity and discover
Speaker 4: Eric's answers to your most important questions. I hope you
Speaker 4: like my introduction. The book is broken down into fifty
Speaker 4: two different topics, things like reunions with our children and pets,
Speaker 4: the halls of learning, Who is Eric? Automatic writing? How
Speaker 4: does spiritual healing work? Do our loved ones? Miss us?
Speaker 4: The holidays and grief? Dreaming? Our purpose in life? What
Speaker 4: does your world look like? How can we connect with
Speaker 4: our loved ones forgiveness, romance, near death experiences? And many more.
Speaker 4: When we get back from our break, you're going to
Speaker 4: meet Eric and here a very fascinating conversation I just
Speaker 4: had with him this past week. Let's go to the
Speaker 4: break and we'll be right back with a conversation with Eric.
Speaker 4: You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio
Speaker 4: and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back
Speaker 4: to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain and talking
Speaker 4: about our new book Conversations with Eric. What if you
Speaker 4: could talk to somebody in the unseen world who lives
Speaker 4: in the afterlife? What would you ask them? And in
Speaker 4: this segment, I want you to hear from Eric himself.
Speaker 4: Get to know the man that I speak with week
Speaker 4: after week. The recordings in the book are all from
Speaker 4: our Friday sessions called in the arms of eternity. However,
Speaker 4: every month with Scott Milligan, we have a class called
Speaker 4: Trance and the Altered States. Some people who join us
Speaker 4: are interested in becoming trance mediums. Some just want to
Speaker 4: feel the love from the spirit world or their loved ones,
Speaker 4: or connect to their guides. Becoming this kind of a
Speaker 4: medium requires a lot of what's called sitting in the
Speaker 4: power and sitting to blend with the unseen world. We
Speaker 4: meet for four sessions a month, and on the last
Speaker 4: session Scott always provides for our class a private trance
Speaker 4: demonstration with questions and answers. This past week, mister Eric
Speaker 4: came to address the group and no one had a question,
Speaker 4: so I asked a question that I hope will make
Speaker 4: you smile. Let me introduce you to our friend in spirit,
Speaker 4: mister Eric Robert Johnston.
Speaker 1: Sandra, my dear, I trusted you our will. I am
Speaker 1: very well.
Speaker 4: Thank you Eric.
Speaker 1: That is always pleasing to him my fin Now, as
Speaker 1: time moves ever far away, what can I do to
Speaker 1: serve you all?
Speaker 4: I have a topic, Eric, If there's no questions.
Speaker 1: If it is so, let it be pleased.
Speaker 4: Okay, it's on the topic of Heaven on Earth. I
Speaker 4: was looking around my garden, seeing the beautiful birds, the flowers,
Speaker 4: and is as if someone, perhaps in your world, maybe children,
Speaker 4: took blank pieces of paper with all kinds of colors
Speaker 4: and created this most beautiful tapestry of plants and birds
Speaker 4: and animals. And then I have to believe that our
Speaker 4: world is a replica of yours. Could you just talk
Speaker 4: a bit about heaven on earth? No, of course, my friend,
Speaker 4: what a wonderful way of expressing how a child can
Speaker 4: create such beauty, and quite rightly so. But then you
Speaker 4: say that.
Speaker 1: Our world is a replica of this But may I
Speaker 1: say it is a continuation of this world. You all
Speaker 1: have seen how mother Earth can provide substance and beauty.
Speaker 1: For if you could imagine, my friends, before you learnt
Speaker 1: to migrate to other countries, what it must have been
Speaker 1: like to know the land you were born, to know
Speaker 1: the flowers, to know what berries to eat, what birds
Speaker 1: to admire, what beast to fee from. But then you
Speaker 1: move to other contebries, and it felt so different. Their
Speaker 1: behaviors were foreign to you, including the earth, land, the nature.
Speaker 1: And therefore you try to recreate in that foreign land
Speaker 1: that seems familiar, And then it starts to change from
Speaker 1: what it was to where it is now. Your world
Speaker 1: is ever changing, but our world also must change with it.
Speaker 1: For the vibration in which you enter is a state
Speaker 1: of familiarity. It is familiar to you, so you come
Speaker 1: a custom from changing your thoughts from one vibration to
Speaker 1: the next. We pray for all of you to find
Speaker 1: heaven in your world, which is peace. But if heaven
Speaker 1: exists in your world, so must hell, for it has
Speaker 1: to have night and day. If you don't have hell,
Speaker 1: you won't know what heaven is and which one is
Speaker 1: more pleasing. Fire you see the beauty because, my friend,
Speaker 1: you have seen the world in a different way. You
Speaker 1: have lived a fast paced life where you've had to
Speaker 1: cater for others needs when they are enjoying themselves. You
Speaker 1: are stressed because you have target, you have employment, and now,
Speaker 1: my friends, you now see the world to be different.
Speaker 1: Or you have earned your stripes and you have moved
Speaker 1: from your residence to a different place where nature has
Speaker 1: more opportunity. The natural law of attraction is in operation
Speaker 1: all and around you. You attract those of like minds,
Speaker 1: But equally in your world you can attract people who
Speaker 1: see you to be awfully different, and therefore they may
Speaker 1: wish to harm you. This is why your world knows both.
Speaker 1: In our world, the natural law of attraction is in operation,
Speaker 1: and therefore you will not have interaction with any individual
Speaker 1: or animal that will do you harm or you them harm.
Speaker 1: If you can imagine, if your mind would love it.
Speaker 1: You say that you see beauty in heaven in your world,
Speaker 1: and quite rightly sow, my friends, but it will not
Speaker 1: prepare you efficiently to what the beauty of our world
Speaker 1: has to offer. If you truly saw what we know,
Speaker 1: you'll find it difficult to exist within your reality. You have,
Speaker 1: my friends, dreams that are so peaceful when you choose
Speaker 1: to extend those dreams, even though if the world is
Speaker 1: calling you back when you wake, my friend, then you
Speaker 1: call it a dream as it has been expressed. But
Speaker 1: you then wish the day away to the time that
Speaker 1: you can rest again and get lost within your imagination.
Speaker 1: But all world is beyond anything your mind can create.
Speaker 1: The color not of your spectrum, sound not of your frequency.
Speaker 1: And time, my friend, where your body will not be exhausted.
Speaker 1: There is no time for you to sleep in actuality,
Speaker 1: my friends, but for us to commune with you. We
Speaker 1: must revert back to that photo press. It aids us
Speaker 1: to lower our vibration back to your earth. But my friends,
Speaker 1: think of all the species that does not exist in
Speaker 1: your world. There is no photograph, no painting that will
Speaker 1: truly do justice, and it doesn't show their personality. Maybe
Speaker 1: it is because, my friends, but that species that functioned
Speaker 1: as a consciousness moved into the reality that this world
Speaker 1: has served its papers woe. Mankind eventually realized that it
Speaker 1: is time that it has served its purpose and no
Speaker 1: longer live within your world. What will come of the residents,
Speaker 1: the statues, the stones that mankind has made. Will it
Speaker 1: become an irritant? Or has the earth found a way?
Speaker 1: Like a stream that's disrupted can always find its flow again.
Speaker 1: This world in which you live, a former world in
Speaker 1: which I used to know, is part of the soul's progression,
Speaker 1: so it becomes vers. Your world has to offer a
Speaker 1: sense of peace, but it also has to give you
Speaker 1: the opportunity of detachment that you can leave it behind.
Speaker 1: Your world will always be the most densest form of
Speaker 1: creation because thought can be light and heavy, and your
Speaker 1: world is increasingly heavy. Because modern technology thribes on negativity.
Speaker 1: Those who claim to sell the rag, speak through the wireless,
Speaker 1: or show themselves on the devil's bobs, finds it more
Speaker 1: invigorating to speak of negativity, which then puts one in
Speaker 1: the hearts of those who observe or listen. Then therefore
Speaker 1: a vibration goes out again and feeds the negative beast.
Speaker 1: So my friends find heaven. Of course, is our dear friend,
Speaker 1: Sadra said, by the colors of the birds, the colors
Speaker 1: of the leaves. But I wonder if my friends, that
Speaker 1: those who live in the local are surroundings sees the
Speaker 1: same beauty as the one that's just inquired. Do the
Speaker 1: animals feel safe or have they been so fickle to
Speaker 1: be persuaded by the hand that feeds them and in
Speaker 1: return does the ray of dance by flying back and
Speaker 1: forth and running back and wark. If all people in
Speaker 1: your world treated all life, no matter what form it
Speaker 1: has taken, with us no respect, then it will be
Speaker 1: a glimpse, only a glimpse. My fan of the world
Speaker 1: that'll wait.
Speaker 4: Show we'll hear more words from mister Eric on the
Speaker 4: other side of the break. But if you're wondering, the
Speaker 4: rag is the newspaper, the wireless is the radio, and
Speaker 4: the devil's box is what he calls our televisions. Yes,
Speaker 4: I do seem to spoil the birds and the squirrels
Speaker 4: and the critters these days. But he's right. I lived
Speaker 4: a very fast paced life, working eighty hours a week
Speaker 4: for many years until COVID hit and I live a
Speaker 4: different kind of life in nature right now, and I
Speaker 4: appreciate it, I really do. So let's go to the
Speaker 4: break and we'll be right back with more of mister Eric.
Speaker 4: You're listening to Shades.
Speaker 3: Of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast,
Speaker 3: a paranormal podcast network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife.
Speaker 3: I'm Sandra Champlain and we're talking with mister Eric, Robert Johnston,
Speaker 3: who lived back in the eighteen hundreds. He's wise, he's wonderful.
Speaker 3: He's the subject of our new book, Conversations with Eric.
Speaker 3: I had asked him about heaven on Earth and all
Speaker 3: the beautiful birds and landscapes and if they are created
Speaker 3: by his world. He was mentioning that if we treat
Speaker 3: each other with kindness like I show the birds, it
Speaker 3: would be a whole different kind of Earth. He's got
Speaker 3: more to say on this topic, So let's continue.
Speaker 1: If you allow me to extend further with this, is
Speaker 1: that permitted?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 4: Please?
Speaker 1: In your world you have animals for human consumption. You
Speaker 1: have plants to grow to aid wellness only for a
Speaker 1: short period of time. These things of what I speak
Speaker 1: of is not respected. It is bred for consumption and
Speaker 1: monetary gain. An animal that has been bred for human consumption,
Speaker 1: where there is no love there will not interact with
Speaker 1: you when you come to the spirit world. They will
Speaker 1: have their own vibration and they will not see or
Speaker 1: experience people like yourself, for it will serve no purpose.
Speaker 1: But if the animal was given love and respect, even
Speaker 1: though it may have been euphanized, it will have interaction.
Speaker 1: But it will not be confined within a cave separated
Speaker 1: by barriers. It will be allowed to interact. But if
Speaker 1: the observer can only see it in a cage, that
Speaker 1: is how it will be presented. But then we will
Speaker 1: work and the cage will then fade away to walk
Speaker 1: in the natural habitat and see the animal be what
Speaker 1: it was meant to be. Equally, with this thought, my friends,
Speaker 1: it extends to people in your world, people who have
Speaker 1: had impact in your world in a negative capacity will
Speaker 1: still be within our world, but the vibration will be
Speaker 1: so different you will not see or interact with each other.
Speaker 1: Like expressions that I have shared with you previously, that
Speaker 1: when you look to the Moon, you see a planet
Speaker 1: of dust because you are born to this vibration. This
Speaker 1: is the vibration that you know. But if someone was
Speaker 1: conceived and then born in the vibration of the Moon,
Speaker 1: its habitat would not be a planet of dust. It'd
Speaker 1: be full of activity. But it will look to the
Speaker 1: Earth and see a planet of dust. It is the
Speaker 1: vibration that it was born and nourished in. My friends,
Speaker 1: So when they come to our side of life, they
Speaker 1: will be in a vibration, even though it will be
Speaker 1: real to them. They will not see you, and you
Speaker 1: will not see them. Because it serves no purpose to
Speaker 1: have grievance, even though that one may seek forgiveness, it
Speaker 1: is no purpose in the state of minerality. Now, I
Speaker 1: did not come here to say that I am God,
Speaker 1: and therefore I cannot question God. But certain individuals that
Speaker 1: has caused mass impact. These individuals do not exist anymore
Speaker 1: within our reality. We see Eric, my friend, for how
Speaker 1: is that possible? You have just said, everythinking this world
Speaker 1: comes to yours. The purpose of life is to destroy self.
Speaker 1: The imperfections of sealth the individuals that we speak of
Speaker 1: that cause mass exodus and mass trauma. These individuals, when
Speaker 1: they come to our side of life, are instantly absorbed
Speaker 1: into consciousness. They do not then meet with their family,
Speaker 1: They do not have the experiences of learning through the
Speaker 1: layers of our world. They just simply are exhausted, and
Speaker 1: therefore they do not exist. There are some who create
Speaker 1: the own vibration where my friends is increasingly difficult, but
Speaker 1: not impossible for us to reach them. But they're so blindsighted,
Speaker 1: deep within their traditions, and therefore, my friends, we sometimes
Speaker 1: require strength from you, who have still knowledge of these
Speaker 1: conditions of hatred, love and compassion, of volatility, and therefore
Speaker 1: within the power that we are trying to dissolve the
Speaker 1: darkness around them. You can assist us, but that is
Speaker 1: merely preparing you for the great work when you come
Speaker 1: to our side of life. If you are skilled in
Speaker 1: such a capacity of communicating, like I am doing now,
Speaker 1: then you'll be used. If it is your wish train
Speaker 1: within the wholes of learning, to be a voice, but
Speaker 1: a voice that expresses itself through multiple channels of thought,
Speaker 1: be it in dream awake, inspiration and meditation, entrancement, or
Speaker 1: in the imagination of young minds. But my friends, your
Speaker 1: world did not copy our world. We copied yours. If
Speaker 1: it is your will, my friends, that we must now
Speaker 1: come to a place where questions may arise within your minds.
Speaker 1: But the questions that you think of must lead you
Speaker 1: to a greater question. I cannot tell you how your
Speaker 1: life will unfold, for it is your choice. The certainty
Speaker 1: that I give you is that you will come to
Speaker 1: our reality. We will meet, and then you will see
Speaker 1: those who have inspired you. You'll see your family, animals.
Speaker 1: If you're with attachments to plants and other trinkets of familiaralities,
Speaker 1: you'll be taken to residents. This is very pleasing fire.
Speaker 1: You will come to the summer land, and you'll rest
Speaker 1: the rest knowing that the world that was so real
Speaker 1: to you has served its benign papers. Your world is
Speaker 1: the short part of the journey. Your whole, your breath
Speaker 1: when you see the beauty of our reality, For what
Speaker 1: you breathe in your world is no different to accept
Speaker 1: in love. Within our reality, Love will move through you
Speaker 1: all and you will continue to seek out knowledge, and
Speaker 1: you'll continue to thrive in a world that knows no war.
Speaker 1: Good day to you, my friend.
Speaker 4: Thank you Eric. And I think you can probably see
Speaker 4: why I love Eric so much. I have literally spent
Speaker 4: about two hundred hours I think more than that really
Speaker 4: doing these questions and answers. And if you could live
Speaker 4: in my shoes just for a little while while and
Speaker 4: hear these profound answers. He never misses a beat. He's
Speaker 4: always kind, always compassionate. It's really something spectacular to behold. Now, Scott,
Speaker 4: his mind has checked out, but it looks like him
Speaker 4: doing the talking, and of course it's Eric speaking through him.
Speaker 4: We all have inspirers working with us. They come through
Speaker 4: our mind, often in our own voice. You might get
Speaker 4: an idea out of nowhere. It may be our soul,
Speaker 4: it may be them. But we have loved ones and
Speaker 4: helpers on the other side, working with each and every
Speaker 4: one of us. We do. This new book is called
Speaker 4: Conversations with Eric, Life, Death and the Afterlife through the
Speaker 4: Closed Eyes of a Trance Medium. On my website, we
Speaker 4: Don't Die dot com. If you want to watch some
Speaker 4: of the past replays, you can watch them for free.
Speaker 4: Just go to the store page and scroll to the bottom.
Speaker 4: There's tons of in the arms of Eternity that are
Speaker 4: there for you to enjoy. To behold a trance demonstration
Speaker 4: in person or a physical medium seance with this phenomena
Speaker 4: happening is incredible. Scott and friends, they'll be traveling through
Speaker 4: the United States and Europe and you can see what's
Speaker 4: coming up, including our online events. Just go to the
Speaker 4: Scott page at Weedon'tdie dot com. My friend, there is
Speaker 4: more to life than meets THEI, and more to you
Speaker 4: than you know. Just realize, down to our tiniest particle,
Speaker 4: all we are is invisible, vibrating energy. It's an illusion
Speaker 4: and a very good one of us being alive and real.
Speaker 4: And I know there's pain and suffering, but there's a
Speaker 4: much bigger picture. You are important, you are loved. Life
Speaker 4: is an education for the soul. You're here to dream,
Speaker 4: to explore, to make mistakes, to love, to forgive. So
Speaker 4: give yourself a big hug. You're just where you need
Speaker 4: to be on the journey. You never know what's right
Speaker 4: around the corner for you. Good things. I hope, don't forget.
Speaker 4: Come visit me at We Don't die dot com. Come
Speaker 4: to a free Sunday gathering. Come a few minutes early
Speaker 4: and say hello to me. I would love that our
Speaker 4: time together for today is over. I hope you enjoyed it.
Speaker 4: I'm Sandra Champlain. Thank you so much for listening to
Speaker 4: Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to
Speaker 4: Coast am Hairinormal podcast Network.
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