1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:01,280 Speaker 1: And you're here. 2 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 2: Thanks for choosing the iHeartRadio and Coast to Ghost Day 3 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 2: and Paranormal Podcast Network. Your quest for podcasts of the paranormal, supernatural, 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 2: and the unexplained ends here. They invite you to enjoy 5 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 2: all our shows we have on this network, and right now, 6 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 2: let's start with Chase of the Afterlife with Sandra Champlain. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 3: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and 8 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 3: opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and opinions 9 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 3: only and do not reflect those of iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, Coast 10 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 3: to Coast, AM employees of Premiere Networks, or their sponsors 11 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 3: and associates. We would like to encourage you to do 12 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 3: your own research and. 13 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 4: Discover the subject matter for yourself. Hi. I'm Sandra Champlain. 14 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 4: For over twenty five years, I've been on a journey 15 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 4: to prove the existence of life after death. 16 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 3: On each episode, will discuss the reasons we now know 17 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 3: that our loved ones have survived physical doubt. 18 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 4: And so will we. Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. 19 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 4: Have you ever heard someone say that something is bittersweet, 20 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 4: meaning that it's sad but can also be happy. I 21 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 4: woke up this morning feeling very happy and very tired, 22 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 4: and I have some really good news to share. And 23 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 4: it's also the fifteenth anniversary of my dad's passing, so inside, 24 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 4: of course, there's all kinds of memories that come up 25 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 4: with an anniversary like that. But then I think of 26 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 4: the chain of events that brought me here with you today, 27 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 4: and we couldn't be here without my dad passing exactly 28 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 4: the way he did. Me hitting rock bottom to discover 29 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 4: the world of grief and why people do some crazy 30 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 4: things while grieving and relationships come apart, followed by my 31 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 4: third to discover as much information about the afterlife? Is 32 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 4: it real? How do we communicate? And certainly I learned 33 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 4: a bunch before my dad passed, and then after he died, 34 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 4: I wanted to know even more, which eventually led me 35 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 4: to writing my book We Don't Die, a skeptics discovery 36 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 4: of life after death, followed by my podcast which still 37 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 4: exists on YouTube called We Don't Die, where I still 38 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 4: interview people one on one. And then as magic happened, 39 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 4: that wonderful call from producer Tom from Coast to Coast 40 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 4: am asking if I would be the host of Shades 41 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 4: of the Afterlife. So many years later, my heart is 42 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 4: filled with love and none of that could have happened 43 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 4: without Dad going just the way he did and when 44 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 4: he did fifteen years ago. So Dad, this one's for you, 45 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 4: and also my friends. What may seem like the worst 46 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 4: pain and grief you could ever imagine right now, you 47 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 4: never know a few years in the future how your 48 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 4: words and your journey might be the thing that someone 49 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 4: else needs to hear, or it could lead you to 50 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 4: a place you couldn't even dream of. Now, Why did 51 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 4: I wake up so tired and yet so happy? I 52 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 4: have had a secret project going on the past few months. 53 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 4: You've heard probably my episodes with Scott Milligan and mister Eric, 54 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 4: who speaks through Scott in the Trance State. If you haven't, 55 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 4: the words are spectacular. Over the past five years, we've 56 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 4: held these question and answer sessions about life, death and 57 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 4: the afterlife, and I've compiled the top questions that have 58 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 4: been asked of our friend in the afterlife. I've had 59 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 4: them transcribed, and secretly I've been putting them all together 60 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 4: into a book. The news is when I woke up 61 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 4: this morning, the book was on Amazon ready for purchase. 62 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 4: Today is also the anniversary of Scott when he first 63 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 4: began sitting as a medium twenty eight years ago. Is 64 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 4: it a coincidence that Amazon had it ready the same 65 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 4: day as his anniversary. I don't know, but it sure 66 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,799 Speaker 4: is reason for celebration. So I was up at three 67 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 4: in the morning, got the news from Amazon, shared it 68 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 4: with Scott. I'm sharing it with the world. The book 69 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 4: is called Conversations with Eric, Life, Death and the Afterlife 70 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 4: through the Closed Eyes of a Trance Medium. Today, on 71 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,239 Speaker 4: our show, we're going to celebrate. I want to read 72 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 4: some from the book, and I want to play for 73 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 4: you some words from Eric that only a few other 74 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 4: people have heard, a question that I asked him this 75 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 4: past week in one of our classes. So sit back, relax, 76 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 4: and let me read a little to you. First, I'd 77 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 4: like to read Scott Milligan's introduction on May second, nineteen 78 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 4: ninety seven. My journey as a physical medium began when 79 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 4: I was only a teenager. I sat with strangers once 80 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,679 Speaker 4: a week in John Austin's home circle, and the seed 81 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,799 Speaker 4: began to grow within me. On that very first sitting, 82 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 4: the question was asked, is anyone there? Then mighty bangs 83 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 4: sounded on the wall that made me jump on the 84 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 4: eleventh sitting a voice manifested in the air, separate from anyone, 85 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 4: and the voice called out from the dark. After that, 86 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 4: nothing for two and a half years. But within those years, 87 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 4: every night I sat in the home circles of others, 88 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 4: including Colin Fry, Stuart Alexander, David Thompson, and Joan Avison. 89 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 4: These four people had the gift of physical mediumship. They 90 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 4: sat and through their senses, unbelievable things occurred. I didn't 91 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 4: realize that I was developing within those home circles as 92 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 4: I was being used in service of others. Two and 93 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 4: a half year years later, the mist in the air 94 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 4: seemed to intensify again, this feeling, this presence started to build. 95 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 4: The invisible voices in my home circle started to whisper. Then, 96 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 4: from deep within me, a voice started to say the 97 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 4: word yes. I couldn't tell you where it came from, 98 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 4: but it felt as it came from my stomach. Over time, 99 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 4: this word yes kept repeating in my mind, feeling like 100 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 4: it was getting bigger and bigger. I couldn't move away 101 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 4: from it, so I thought, well, I'm just going to 102 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 4: say it. When I spoke, Instead of the word yes 103 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 4: coming out, it sounded like yesh. Every time I wanted 104 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 4: to say yes, it came out yes, and I couldn't 105 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 4: control it. Suddenly the voice broke again and said yes, 106 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 4: So now we come to speak to our brothers and 107 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 4: sisters of the joining of our world and yours. That 108 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 4: voice that seemed to have come from me started to 109 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 4: move me from believing to knowing that the these unseen 110 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 4: people were a part of my life. Very rapidly. In 111 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 4: over the next few sittings, the voice started to get 112 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 4: stronger and stronger. That was the beginning of my relationship 113 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 4: with my workers, my friends morning Star, Daniel and Eric, 114 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 4: who speak through me while I am in the trance state. 115 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 4: Morning Star was the first to come and spoke the words, 116 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 4: so now we come to speak to our brothers and 117 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 4: sisters of the joining of our World's morning Star, while 118 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 4: he was on Earth, was known as Dull Knife, and 119 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 4: he was a great chief of the Cheyenne people in America. 120 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 4: He would come frequently in the early days to win 121 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 4: the reason of the circle. Daniel is my younger friend 122 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 4: who calls everyone ducks or duckies. Daniel brings joy and 123 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 4: humor to the circle, which builds the necessary power for 124 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 4: phenomena to occur. Mister Eric Robert Johnston is a Victorian 125 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 4: man and his education is beyond my comprehension. He communicates 126 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 4: regularly through me and our trance demonstrations. Eric never shies 127 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 4: away from a question and always answers with dignity and respect. 128 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 4: Eric reminds us that he is not a guide, he 129 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 4: is a friend. He often reminds me of the importance 130 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 4: of being of service, not having a big ego. One time, 131 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 4: when I became quite big headed, Eric said to me, 132 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,239 Speaker 4: if you desire to be a star, my boy, you will, 133 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 4: But all stars fade and turn to dust. Those who 134 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 4: contribute to humanity will live forever in the hearts and 135 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 4: minds of your tomorrows. Eric's philosophy is profound and thought provoking, 136 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 4: and he never hesitates in his speech. When I talk, 137 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 4: I stutter a little with a few ums and things 138 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 4: like that. There's none of that in the spirit world, 139 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 4: which shows their intelligence. When a medium is under the 140 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 4: influence of the spirit, their words seem to flow like 141 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 4: a river. At one of the trance question and answer sessions, 142 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 4: we had a high ranking member of the police force attend. 143 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 4: While while I was entranced, this very educated man was 144 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 4: speaking to Eric about physics, and Eric was answering his 145 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 4: questions easily. I am dyslexic and was found to be 146 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 4: dyslexic at the late age of eleven. They said, I 147 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 4: had a reading age of about five years old. I'm 148 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 4: not very educated and failed all my GCSE exams, only 149 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 4: getting c's and d's. You will witness Eric's high level 150 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 4: of education on the following pages. Also, Eric is very clever. 151 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 4: He will answer questions that someone has not verbalized and 152 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 4: only thought about. Eric and my other friends remind me 153 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 4: that those in the spirit world are but a foot away. 154 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:43,719 Speaker 4: Although he has asked many questions, Eric often says there 155 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 4: are no answers, there are only questions that lead to 156 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 4: greater questions. He is a humble friend and shares that 157 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 4: the words he speaks are not only his words, but 158 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 4: they are the voice of many. He refers to me 159 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 4: as the one we love what trancey is and what 160 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 4: the experience feels like. I simply close my eyes and 161 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 4: just sit there, usually listening to three songs, not trying 162 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 4: to pay attention to my busy mind. During those songs, 163 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 4: I feel quite heavy, as if I'm going to sleep. 164 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 4: My spirit friends gently blend their energy with mine to 165 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 4: use my vocal chords to speak through me. The voice 166 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 4: may change, It may sound older or younger. It may 167 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 4: sound like someone who lived long ago. My friends who 168 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 4: work with me once lived earthly lives that can be proven. 169 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 4: This is true trance mediumship, which people confuse with channeling. 170 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 4: Channeling cannot be proven. Many believe they are channeling angels, 171 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 4: ascended masters, and guides, but channeling comes from the soul. 172 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 4: Channeling can bring some powerful words of philosophy, but trance 173 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 4: involves a discarnate mind of someone who once walked this earth. 174 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 4: Life changed for us all in March twenty twenty. I 175 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 4: had been trayed traveling, teaching and demonstrating trance and physical mediumship, 176 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 4: but that was all put on pause when the COVID 177 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 4: nineteen pandemic impacted the planet. My good friend Sandra Champlain 178 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 4: encouraged me to begin teaching and demonstrating trance mediumship online. 179 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 4: As we were all in lockdown and people were interested, 180 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 4: we began. I am grateful that people who had no 181 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 4: prior knowledge of physical and trance mediumship were interested in 182 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 4: developing their medium abilities. Many just wanted to quiet their 183 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 4: busy minds to feel the love from their family and 184 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 4: friends who have passed away. Many now have discovered the 185 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 4: power of home circles and are inviting their spirit friends 186 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 4: into their homes weekly. Although the world has opened and 187 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 4: I am traveling again, we still have our Zoom online classes. 188 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,959 Speaker 4: In addition, over the years, we have held many online 189 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 4: events called in the Arms of Eternity, where people from 190 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 4: all over the world join us on Zoom. We begin 191 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 4: by sending healing to all of those in need. Gentle 192 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 4: music plays in the background as I lead the group 193 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 4: into this healing. At some point, that sleepy feeling comes 194 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 4: over me. My voice becomes quiet, and I drift into 195 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 4: the trance state. I am told by Sandra that usually 196 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 4: after twenty minutes, the voice of Eric speaks through me 197 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 4: and delivers words of philosophy for all. Then members of 198 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 4: our group are invited to ask Eric questions or to 199 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 4: have him speak on topics regarding life, death, or the afterlife. 200 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 4: At the time of this book publication, we have well 201 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 4: over two hundred hours of these sittings. Conversations with Eric 202 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 4: was compiled from transcripts of actual sittings, containing some of 203 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 4: Eric's most powerful words on the most requested subjects. Eric's 204 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 4: words are profound, enlightening, and comforting. It is my sincere 205 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 4: wish that mister Eric Robert Johnston's words and philosophy find 206 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 4: their way into the hearts and minds of many. Scott 207 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 4: Milligan more words. 208 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 3: From the book, and we'll hear from the actual Eric 209 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 3: when we get back. You're listening to Shades of the 210 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 3: Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast, a m 211 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 3: paranormal podcast network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. 212 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 3: I'm Sandra Champlain, and we're celebrating the release of the 213 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 3: new book Conversations with Eric Life, Death, and the Afterlife 214 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 3: through the closed Eyes of a Trance Medium. I'm not 215 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 3: only the publisher. I wrote the forward, so I'll read 216 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,839 Speaker 3: that to you now and you'll get a little more 217 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 3: understanding of why this is so important to me. I 218 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 3: would have never imagined spending over two hundred hours of 219 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 3: my life talking to an old dead man. Not just 220 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 3: any dead man, but the wisest, most compassionate, loving and 221 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 3: non judgmental gentleman named mister Eric Robert Johnston, who lived 222 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 3: in the Victorian era in England and passed away near 223 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,959 Speaker 3: the end of the eighteen hundreds. You see, I was 224 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 3: a skeptic about the afterlife, mediums and all talk of 225 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 3: other worldly people, places, or beings. I wasn't just skeptical. 226 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 3: I had a big ego and spoke very negatively of 227 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 3: people interested in spirituality or the metaphysical. 228 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 4: So what happened? I developed a huge fear of dying 229 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 4: that led me on a quest to determine for myself 230 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 4: if there was any evidence of the afterlife. I'm pleased 231 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 4: to say there is, and there is a lot of it. 232 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 4: I have dedicated well over twenty five years of my 233 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 4: life to studying the various reasons to believe, authored and 234 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 4: international best selling book titled We Don't Die, a skeptics 235 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 4: Discovery of Life after Death, and I host two podcasts, 236 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 4: We Don't Die and Shades of the Afterlife, which together 237 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 4: encompass well over seven hundred hours of episodes featuring conversations 238 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 4: with experts and everyday folks on the many reasons to 239 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 4: believe that we survive physical death. There are numerous reasons 240 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 4: to believe in the afterlife. Some of my favorites include 241 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 4: vertical near death experiences, induced after death, communication therapy, deathbed 242 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 4: visitations and the world of audio and visual trans communication. However, 243 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 4: the one that brings me the most comfort are our 244 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 4: conversations with Eric. In November twenty sixteen, during my never 245 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 4: ending search for afterlife evidence, I was introduced to a 246 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 4: young man named Scott Milligan. I had heard about physical mediumship, 247 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 4: a rare form of communication where voices of discarnate spirits 248 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 4: could be heard in the darkness of a seance room. 249 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 4: These voices were said to be those of our deceased 250 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 4: loved ones and others spirit helpers, doing their best to 251 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 4: prove that our consciousness continues after physical death through the 252 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 4: phenomena they deliver. Of course, this sounded too good to 253 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 4: be true, but there is only one way to find out. 254 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 4: So I took a three thousand mile journey from my 255 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 4: home in the United States to a small town in 256 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 4: southeastern England. I have always been so passionate about investigating 257 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 4: the afterlife, knowing firsthand the difference it would make to 258 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 4: others who fear death or have experienced deep grief after 259 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 4: the passing of a loved one. The five day retreat 260 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 4: opened to my eyes and heart in a way nothing 261 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 4: else could. I experienced three kinds of mediumship, evidential, physical 262 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 4: and trance. My heart was filled with love seeing evidential 263 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 4: mediums giving platform demonstrations, delivering words from loved ones in 264 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 4: the spirit world. We received training and experienced that we 265 00:16:56,800 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 4: are all mediums and how the spirit world communicates through 266 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 4: our thoughts and feelings ways we previously thought was just 267 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 4: our imagination. I will save my experience with physical mediumship 268 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 4: for Scott's next book, but what I can tell you 269 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 4: is that it brought the joy of Christmas back to me. 270 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 4: Voices do communicate in the darkness. Phenomena occurred that was 271 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 4: so joyful, and all who witnessed it were left in 272 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 4: a state of awe and filled with love for humanity 273 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 4: and the unseen world. Toward the end of the retreat, 274 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 4: I had my first experience of trance mediumship. This young 275 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 4: man named Scott Milligan sat in front of the group 276 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 4: and closed his eyes. Music was played that seemed to 277 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 4: lull him into a different state of consciousness. After some time, 278 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 4: a much different voice spoke from Scott's mouth. This was 279 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 4: the voice of Eric. Eric speaks in a way that 280 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 4: we do not speak today, filled with pleasantries and proper etiquette. 281 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 4: He has a deep voice and used some vocabulary that 282 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 4: was used long ago. During Scott's trance demonstration, Eric shared 283 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 4: words of philosophy about life, death, and the reality of 284 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 4: the afterlife. I hung onto every word and was overjoyed 285 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 4: at what I was witnessing. Eric asked the audience if 286 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 4: we had any questions. With a mix of curiosity and uncertainty, 287 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:28,199 Speaker 4: I introduced myself to Eric. Eric always asks I trust 288 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 4: you or well. I told him I was well. Indeed, 289 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 4: the question I had was about suffering. My dad passed 290 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 4: away from cancer and suffered terribly at the end. I 291 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:43,640 Speaker 4: wanted to know why we human beings must endure pain 292 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 4: and suffering and if it served any purpose. Eric's answer 293 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 4: was lengthy, but here are some words that comforted me. 294 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 4: In his response, Well, I have to say to you 295 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 4: it does help to enrich the soul's experience because you 296 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 4: won't experience it in our world. Suffering is a byproduct 297 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 4: of being alive. Your body is fragile and filled with senses. 298 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 4: The body is a miracle. Once you are born, it 299 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 4: starts to kill itself, but it kills itself so you 300 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 4: can renew. In our world, if you are to cut 301 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 4: into the skin, it causes such pain, but The body 302 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 4: then learns how to cope with the cut, and it 303 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 4: starts to bring what has been separated back together. But 304 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 4: I have to say to you that when you are 305 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 4: alive and experience pain for yourself, it is terribly distressing. 306 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,199 Speaker 4: The only hope I can give you is that it 307 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:45,959 Speaker 4: lasts only for a short period of time, and when 308 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 4: you come to our side of life, the physical pain 309 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 4: goes back to the earth. You arrive in the state 310 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 4: of familiarity, where everything is familiar to you, and you 311 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 4: receive the proper education, are reunited with your love ones, 312 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 4: and then you can move into the greater world of spirit. 313 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 4: We hear the cry of those who are left behind, 314 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 4: and no matter how loudly we shout, we are still 315 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 4: with you. Sadly, your earthly ears do not hear us, 316 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 4: so we must come to you in dreams. But then 317 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 4: when you are awake and tears stream down your face, 318 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 4: you say, oh, it was only a dream, and we 319 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 4: must work incredibly hard to convince you to allow you 320 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 4: to live again. We draw close to give you a 321 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 4: healing bomb to wipe away those tears, and embrace you 322 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 4: and tell you that it will be okay. In your world. 323 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 4: People leave you and our world people join you, and 324 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 4: so they will leave you for a moment in your 325 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 4: world physically. But when it is your time, when our 326 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 4: world surrounds you, we get excited that you are arriving. 327 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 4: A sense of peace will wash over you, a sense 328 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 4: of calm because you, your soul knows the natural progression 329 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 4: to our world. So, in answer to your question, pain 330 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 4: is a byproduct of being alive, but you will not 331 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 4: experience it in our world. Those words made such a 332 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 4: difference for me, and in another question, I learned that 333 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,199 Speaker 4: if the body is suffering, the soul can move to 334 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 4: the unseen world even before the body dies. None of 335 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 4: us wish to suffer or want our loved ones to 336 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 4: experience pain. The next four years, I spent as much 337 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 4: time as I could with Scott and his spirit team. 338 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 4: I made regular trips to London, taking a taxi an 339 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 4: hour and a half each way, just to discover trance 340 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 4: and have an opportunity to sit with Scott, my soul 341 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 4: and the spirit world. I am pleased to know that 342 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 4: we all have our own spirit teams, and that Eric 343 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,919 Speaker 4: and Scott's other friends are companions to us all, and 344 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 4: that love is always available to us from the invisible 345 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 4: world around us. Quieting the mind is the way to 346 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 4: communicate with our soul, our loved ones, and those invisible 347 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 4: that accompany us in our lives. Scott and I quickly 348 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:19,360 Speaker 4: became good friends, and in twenty twenty we began offering 349 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 4: Trance and the Altered States classes on Zoom and weekly 350 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 4: sessions called in the Arms of Eternity, sending much needed 351 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 4: healing to the people of the world, followed by a 352 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 4: demonstration of trance. I have been the host and facilitator 353 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 4: of these online sessions. Scott begins by gently leading us 354 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 4: into healing, listening to soft music, and then becomes quiet, 355 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 4: inviting his friends to join him. All sessions are experimental 356 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 4: and we never know what is going to happen. However, 357 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 4: what typically happens is Eric speaks through Scott, providing philosophy 358 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 4: on a topic that is important to him. Then there's 359 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 4: always an opportunity for our Zoom audience to ask questions 360 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 4: or have Eric speak on a topic of their choosing. 361 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,719 Speaker 4: Audience members type their questions in the question and answer 362 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 4: box on Zoom, and I am the only person who 363 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:18,360 Speaker 4: can see those questions. From time to time, Eric surprises 364 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 4: me and reads the questions before I am able to 365 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 4: voice them. I've often wondered if he can see through 366 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 4: my eyes, but he assures me that he knows the 367 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 4: questions in people's hearts. Over the past few years, we 368 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 4: have had hundreds of hours of words from mister Eric. 369 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 4: He says that although his voice is the voice we hear, 370 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 4: he is the voice of many who work with him, 371 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 4: doing their very best to comfort and empower those of 372 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,880 Speaker 4: us here on earth. Within these pages you will discover 373 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 4: the most frequently asked questions about topics important to us. 374 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 4: All these questions have been answered and transcribed from our sessions. 375 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 4: They have been and edited only slightly for correct punctuation 376 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 4: and for ease of reading, but the passionate words are 377 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 4: from our friend Eric. One final note. Out of the 378 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 4: twenty five plus years I have been investigating the afterlife, 379 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 4: the best and most comforting evidence I know and look 380 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 4: forward to is our conversations with Eric. I trust you 381 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 4: will enjoy his words and invite you to join us 382 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 4: sometime for our in the arms of eternity and discover 383 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 4: Eric's answers to your most important questions. I hope you 384 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 4: like my introduction. The book is broken down into fifty 385 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 4: two different topics, things like reunions with our children and pets, 386 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 4: the halls of learning, Who is Eric? Automatic writing? How 387 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 4: does spiritual healing work? Do our loved ones? Miss us? 388 00:24:55,640 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 4: The holidays and grief? Dreaming? Our purpose in life? What 389 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 4: does your world look like? How can we connect with 390 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 4: our loved ones forgiveness, romance, near death experiences? And many more. 391 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 4: When we get back from our break, you're going to 392 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 4: meet Eric and here a very fascinating conversation I just 393 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 4: had with him this past week. Let's go to the 394 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 4: break and we'll be right back with a conversation with Eric. 395 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 4: You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio 396 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 4: and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back 397 00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 4: to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain and talking 398 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 4: about our new book Conversations with Eric. What if you 399 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 4: could talk to somebody in the unseen world who lives 400 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 4: in the afterlife? What would you ask them? And in 401 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 4: this segment, I want you to hear from Eric himself. 402 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 4: Get to know the man that I speak with week 403 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 4: after week. The recordings in the book are all from 404 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 4: our Friday sessions called in the arms of eternity. However, 405 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 4: every month with Scott Milligan, we have a class called 406 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 4: Trance and the Altered States. Some people who join us 407 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:37,719 Speaker 4: are interested in becoming trance mediums. Some just want to 408 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 4: feel the love from the spirit world or their loved ones, 409 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 4: or connect to their guides. Becoming this kind of a 410 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:49,439 Speaker 4: medium requires a lot of what's called sitting in the 411 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 4: power and sitting to blend with the unseen world. We 412 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 4: meet for four sessions a month, and on the last 413 00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 4: session Scott always provides for our class a private trance 414 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 4: demonstration with questions and answers. This past week, mister Eric 415 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 4: came to address the group and no one had a question, 416 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 4: so I asked a question that I hope will make 417 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 4: you smile. Let me introduce you to our friend in spirit, 418 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 4: mister Eric Robert Johnston. 419 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: Sandra, my dear, I trusted you our will. I am 420 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:24,880 Speaker 1: very well. 421 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 4: Thank you Eric. 422 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 1: That is always pleasing to him my fin Now, as 423 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: time moves ever far away, what can I do to 424 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:38,120 Speaker 1: serve you all? 425 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 4: I have a topic, Eric, If there's no questions. 426 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 1: If it is so, let it be pleased. 427 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 4: Okay, it's on the topic of Heaven on Earth. I 428 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 4: was looking around my garden, seeing the beautiful birds, the flowers, 429 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 4: and is as if someone, perhaps in your world, maybe children, 430 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 4: took blank pieces of paper with all kinds of colors 431 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 4: and created this most beautiful tapestry of plants and birds 432 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 4: and animals. And then I have to believe that our 433 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 4: world is a replica of yours. Could you just talk 434 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 4: a bit about heaven on earth? No, of course, my friend, 435 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 4: what a wonderful way of expressing how a child can 436 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 4: create such beauty, and quite rightly so. But then you 437 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 4: say that. 438 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 1: Our world is a replica of this But may I 439 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: say it is a continuation of this world. You all 440 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: have seen how mother Earth can provide substance and beauty. 441 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: For if you could imagine, my friends, before you learnt 442 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: to migrate to other countries, what it must have been 443 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: like to know the land you were born, to know 444 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: the flowers, to know what berries to eat, what birds 445 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 1: to admire, what beast to fee from. But then you 446 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: move to other contebries, and it felt so different. Their 447 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: behaviors were foreign to you, including the earth, land, the nature. 448 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: And therefore you try to recreate in that foreign land 449 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: that seems familiar, And then it starts to change from 450 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: what it was to where it is now. Your world 451 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: is ever changing, but our world also must change with it. 452 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: For the vibration in which you enter is a state 453 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: of familiarity. It is familiar to you, so you come 454 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 1: a custom from changing your thoughts from one vibration to 455 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: the next. We pray for all of you to find 456 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: heaven in your world, which is peace. But if heaven 457 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 1: exists in your world, so must hell, for it has 458 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: to have night and day. If you don't have hell, 459 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: you won't know what heaven is and which one is 460 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: more pleasing. Fire you see the beauty because, my friend, 461 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 1: you have seen the world in a different way. You 462 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: have lived a fast paced life where you've had to 463 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 1: cater for others needs when they are enjoying themselves. You 464 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: are stressed because you have target, you have employment, and now, 465 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: my friends, you now see the world to be different. 466 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: Or you have earned your stripes and you have moved 467 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: from your residence to a different place where nature has 468 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: more opportunity. The natural law of attraction is in operation 469 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: all and around you. You attract those of like minds, 470 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: But equally in your world you can attract people who 471 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 1: see you to be awfully different, and therefore they may 472 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 1: wish to harm you. This is why your world knows both. 473 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 1: In our world, the natural law of attraction is in operation, 474 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 1: and therefore you will not have interaction with any individual 475 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: or animal that will do you harm or you them harm. 476 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: If you can imagine, if your mind would love it. 477 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: You say that you see beauty in heaven in your world, 478 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: and quite rightly sow, my friends, but it will not 479 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:20,719 Speaker 1: prepare you efficiently to what the beauty of our world 480 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: has to offer. If you truly saw what we know, 481 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 1: you'll find it difficult to exist within your reality. You have, 482 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 1: my friends, dreams that are so peaceful when you choose 483 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: to extend those dreams, even though if the world is 484 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 1: calling you back when you wake, my friend, then you 485 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 1: call it a dream as it has been expressed. But 486 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 1: you then wish the day away to the time that 487 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 1: you can rest again and get lost within your imagination. 488 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: But all world is beyond anything your mind can create. 489 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: The color not of your spectrum, sound not of your frequency. 490 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 1: And time, my friend, where your body will not be exhausted. 491 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 1: There is no time for you to sleep in actuality, 492 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 1: my friends, but for us to commune with you. We 493 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: must revert back to that photo press. It aids us 494 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 1: to lower our vibration back to your earth. But my friends, 495 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: think of all the species that does not exist in 496 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 1: your world. There is no photograph, no painting that will 497 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 1: truly do justice, and it doesn't show their personality. Maybe 498 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: it is because, my friends, but that species that functioned 499 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 1: as a consciousness moved into the reality that this world 500 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: has served its papers woe. Mankind eventually realized that it 501 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 1: is time that it has served its purpose and no 502 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 1: longer live within your world. What will come of the residents, 503 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 1: the statues, the stones that mankind has made. Will it 504 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 1: become an irritant? Or has the earth found a way? 505 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 1: Like a stream that's disrupted can always find its flow again. 506 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 1: This world in which you live, a former world in 507 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: which I used to know, is part of the soul's progression, 508 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 1: so it becomes vers. Your world has to offer a 509 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 1: sense of peace, but it also has to give you 510 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 1: the opportunity of detachment that you can leave it behind. 511 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 1: Your world will always be the most densest form of 512 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:29,919 Speaker 1: creation because thought can be light and heavy, and your 513 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:39,800 Speaker 1: world is increasingly heavy. Because modern technology thribes on negativity. 514 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: Those who claim to sell the rag, speak through the wireless, 515 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 1: or show themselves on the devil's bobs, finds it more 516 00:35:54,160 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 1: invigorating to speak of negativity, which then puts one in 517 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 1: the hearts of those who observe or listen. Then therefore 518 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 1: a vibration goes out again and feeds the negative beast. 519 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 1: So my friends find heaven. Of course, is our dear friend, 520 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 1: Sadra said, by the colors of the birds, the colors 521 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:25,880 Speaker 1: of the leaves. But I wonder if my friends, that 522 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:31,840 Speaker 1: those who live in the local are surroundings sees the 523 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 1: same beauty as the one that's just inquired. Do the 524 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 1: animals feel safe or have they been so fickle to 525 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 1: be persuaded by the hand that feeds them and in 526 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 1: return does the ray of dance by flying back and 527 00:36:55,080 --> 00:37:01,279 Speaker 1: forth and running back and wark. If all people in 528 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 1: your world treated all life, no matter what form it 529 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:13,839 Speaker 1: has taken, with us no respect, then it will be 530 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 1: a glimpse, only a glimpse. My fan of the world 531 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 1: that'll wait. 532 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 4: Show we'll hear more words from mister Eric on the 533 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 4: other side of the break. But if you're wondering, the 534 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:31,839 Speaker 4: rag is the newspaper, the wireless is the radio, and 535 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 4: the devil's box is what he calls our televisions. Yes, 536 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 4: I do seem to spoil the birds and the squirrels 537 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 4: and the critters these days. But he's right. I lived 538 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 4: a very fast paced life, working eighty hours a week 539 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 4: for many years until COVID hit and I live a 540 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,880 Speaker 4: different kind of life in nature right now, and I 541 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,239 Speaker 4: appreciate it, I really do. So let's go to the 542 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,919 Speaker 4: break and we'll be right back with more of mister Eric. 543 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 4: You're listening to Shades. 544 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 3: Of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast, 545 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 3: a paranormal podcast network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. 546 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:33,280 Speaker 3: I'm Sandra Champlain and we're talking with mister Eric, Robert Johnston, 547 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:38,360 Speaker 3: who lived back in the eighteen hundreds. He's wise, he's wonderful. 548 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:42,439 Speaker 3: He's the subject of our new book, Conversations with Eric. 549 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 3: I had asked him about heaven on Earth and all 550 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 3: the beautiful birds and landscapes and if they are created 551 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 3: by his world. He was mentioning that if we treat 552 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 3: each other with kindness like I show the birds, it 553 00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 3: would be a whole different kind of Earth. He's got 554 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,800 Speaker 3: more to say on this topic, So let's continue. 555 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 1: If you allow me to extend further with this, is 556 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:07,320 Speaker 1: that permitted? 557 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:07,839 Speaker 2: Yes? 558 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:08,320 Speaker 4: Please? 559 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:14,400 Speaker 1: In your world you have animals for human consumption. You 560 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:22,239 Speaker 1: have plants to grow to aid wellness only for a 561 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 1: short period of time. These things of what I speak 562 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 1: of is not respected. It is bred for consumption and 563 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:40,400 Speaker 1: monetary gain. An animal that has been bred for human consumption, 564 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:45,840 Speaker 1: where there is no love there will not interact with 565 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 1: you when you come to the spirit world. They will 566 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:56,400 Speaker 1: have their own vibration and they will not see or 567 00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 1: experience people like yourself, for it will serve no purpose. 568 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 1: But if the animal was given love and respect, even 569 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 1: though it may have been euphanized, it will have interaction. 570 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:24,440 Speaker 1: But it will not be confined within a cave separated 571 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 1: by barriers. It will be allowed to interact. But if 572 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:38,279 Speaker 1: the observer can only see it in a cage, that 573 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:43,239 Speaker 1: is how it will be presented. But then we will 574 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:49,760 Speaker 1: work and the cage will then fade away to walk 575 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 1: in the natural habitat and see the animal be what 576 00:40:56,080 --> 00:41:01,240 Speaker 1: it was meant to be. Equally, with this thought, my friends, 577 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 1: it extends to people in your world, people who have 578 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 1: had impact in your world in a negative capacity will 579 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:19,319 Speaker 1: still be within our world, but the vibration will be 580 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 1: so different you will not see or interact with each other. 581 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:30,480 Speaker 1: Like expressions that I have shared with you previously, that 582 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,720 Speaker 1: when you look to the Moon, you see a planet 583 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:37,880 Speaker 1: of dust because you are born to this vibration. This 584 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:43,600 Speaker 1: is the vibration that you know. But if someone was 585 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 1: conceived and then born in the vibration of the Moon, 586 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:53,000 Speaker 1: its habitat would not be a planet of dust. It'd 587 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 1: be full of activity. But it will look to the 588 00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:01,400 Speaker 1: Earth and see a planet of dust. It is the 589 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 1: vibration that it was born and nourished in. My friends, 590 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:14,319 Speaker 1: So when they come to our side of life, they 591 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,960 Speaker 1: will be in a vibration, even though it will be 592 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 1: real to them. They will not see you, and you 593 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:27,319 Speaker 1: will not see them. Because it serves no purpose to 594 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:34,040 Speaker 1: have grievance, even though that one may seek forgiveness, it 595 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:39,680 Speaker 1: is no purpose in the state of minerality. Now, I 596 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:43,240 Speaker 1: did not come here to say that I am God, 597 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 1: and therefore I cannot question God. But certain individuals that 598 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:55,600 Speaker 1: has caused mass impact. These individuals do not exist anymore 599 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 1: within our reality. We see Eric, my friend, for how 600 00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:02,960 Speaker 1: is that possible? You have just said, everythinking this world 601 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:08,880 Speaker 1: comes to yours. The purpose of life is to destroy self. 602 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:15,000 Speaker 1: The imperfections of sealth the individuals that we speak of 603 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:22,640 Speaker 1: that cause mass exodus and mass trauma. These individuals, when 604 00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,719 Speaker 1: they come to our side of life, are instantly absorbed 605 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:32,120 Speaker 1: into consciousness. They do not then meet with their family, 606 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:37,640 Speaker 1: They do not have the experiences of learning through the 607 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:44,359 Speaker 1: layers of our world. They just simply are exhausted, and 608 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:52,320 Speaker 1: therefore they do not exist. There are some who create 609 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:59,759 Speaker 1: the own vibration where my friends is increasingly difficult, but 610 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:07,560 Speaker 1: not impossible for us to reach them. But they're so blindsighted, 611 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:16,040 Speaker 1: deep within their traditions, and therefore, my friends, we sometimes 612 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:22,520 Speaker 1: require strength from you, who have still knowledge of these 613 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:31,359 Speaker 1: conditions of hatred, love and compassion, of volatility, and therefore 614 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,640 Speaker 1: within the power that we are trying to dissolve the 615 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:39,719 Speaker 1: darkness around them. You can assist us, but that is 616 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:43,680 Speaker 1: merely preparing you for the great work when you come 617 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:48,960 Speaker 1: to our side of life. If you are skilled in 618 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 1: such a capacity of communicating, like I am doing now, 619 00:44:55,239 --> 00:45:00,440 Speaker 1: then you'll be used. If it is your wish train 620 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:04,920 Speaker 1: within the wholes of learning, to be a voice, but 621 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:10,200 Speaker 1: a voice that expresses itself through multiple channels of thought, 622 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:19,200 Speaker 1: be it in dream awake, inspiration and meditation, entrancement, or 623 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:26,280 Speaker 1: in the imagination of young minds. But my friends, your 624 00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:34,920 Speaker 1: world did not copy our world. We copied yours. If 625 00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:39,400 Speaker 1: it is your will, my friends, that we must now 626 00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:45,760 Speaker 1: come to a place where questions may arise within your minds. 627 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:51,160 Speaker 1: But the questions that you think of must lead you 628 00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:57,879 Speaker 1: to a greater question. I cannot tell you how your 629 00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:04,000 Speaker 1: life will unfold, for it is your choice. The certainty 630 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:07,080 Speaker 1: that I give you is that you will come to 631 00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:12,640 Speaker 1: our reality. We will meet, and then you will see 632 00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:19,879 Speaker 1: those who have inspired you. You'll see your family, animals. 633 00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:28,160 Speaker 1: If you're with attachments to plants and other trinkets of familiaralities, 634 00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:34,760 Speaker 1: you'll be taken to residents. This is very pleasing fire. 635 00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:41,360 Speaker 1: You will come to the summer land, and you'll rest 636 00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:47,399 Speaker 1: the rest knowing that the world that was so real 637 00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:55,200 Speaker 1: to you has served its benign papers. Your world is 638 00:46:55,239 --> 00:47:00,800 Speaker 1: the short part of the journey. Your whole, your breath 639 00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:06,319 Speaker 1: when you see the beauty of our reality, For what 640 00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:13,200 Speaker 1: you breathe in your world is no different to accept 641 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:19,719 Speaker 1: in love. Within our reality, Love will move through you 642 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:29,319 Speaker 1: all and you will continue to seek out knowledge, and 643 00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:37,799 Speaker 1: you'll continue to thrive in a world that knows no war. 644 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,920 Speaker 1: Good day to you, my friend. 645 00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,680 Speaker 4: Thank you Eric. And I think you can probably see 646 00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:49,800 Speaker 4: why I love Eric so much. I have literally spent 647 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,560 Speaker 4: about two hundred hours I think more than that really 648 00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:57,640 Speaker 4: doing these questions and answers. And if you could live 649 00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,120 Speaker 4: in my shoes just for a little while while and 650 00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:06,799 Speaker 4: hear these profound answers. He never misses a beat. He's 651 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:14,080 Speaker 4: always kind, always compassionate. It's really something spectacular to behold. Now, Scott, 652 00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,040 Speaker 4: his mind has checked out, but it looks like him 653 00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:20,400 Speaker 4: doing the talking, and of course it's Eric speaking through him. 654 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:25,480 Speaker 4: We all have inspirers working with us. They come through 655 00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,359 Speaker 4: our mind, often in our own voice. You might get 656 00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,320 Speaker 4: an idea out of nowhere. It may be our soul, 657 00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:35,200 Speaker 4: it may be them. But we have loved ones and 658 00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,439 Speaker 4: helpers on the other side, working with each and every 659 00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,919 Speaker 4: one of us. We do. This new book is called 660 00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:46,160 Speaker 4: Conversations with Eric, Life, Death and the Afterlife through the 661 00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:51,040 Speaker 4: Closed Eyes of a Trance Medium. On my website, we 662 00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:54,400 Speaker 4: Don't Die dot com. If you want to watch some 663 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,440 Speaker 4: of the past replays, you can watch them for free. 664 00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,720 Speaker 4: Just go to the store page and scroll to the bottom. 665 00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:04,480 Speaker 4: There's tons of in the arms of Eternity that are 666 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:10,000 Speaker 4: there for you to enjoy. To behold a trance demonstration 667 00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:14,080 Speaker 4: in person or a physical medium seance with this phenomena 668 00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:19,520 Speaker 4: happening is incredible. Scott and friends, they'll be traveling through 669 00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:23,560 Speaker 4: the United States and Europe and you can see what's 670 00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,759 Speaker 4: coming up, including our online events. Just go to the 671 00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:31,520 Speaker 4: Scott page at Weedon'tdie dot com. My friend, there is 672 00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,239 Speaker 4: more to life than meets THEI, and more to you 673 00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:38,400 Speaker 4: than you know. Just realize, down to our tiniest particle, 674 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:42,719 Speaker 4: all we are is invisible, vibrating energy. It's an illusion 675 00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,640 Speaker 4: and a very good one of us being alive and real. 676 00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,520 Speaker 4: And I know there's pain and suffering, but there's a 677 00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:54,440 Speaker 4: much bigger picture. You are important, you are loved. Life 678 00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:58,080 Speaker 4: is an education for the soul. You're here to dream, 679 00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:04,160 Speaker 4: to explore, to make mistakes, to love, to forgive. So 680 00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,920 Speaker 4: give yourself a big hug. You're just where you need 681 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,719 Speaker 4: to be on the journey. You never know what's right 682 00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:13,600 Speaker 4: around the corner for you. Good things. I hope, don't forget. 683 00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,160 Speaker 4: Come visit me at We Don't die dot com. Come 684 00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:18,840 Speaker 4: to a free Sunday gathering. Come a few minutes early 685 00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,759 Speaker 4: and say hello to me. I would love that our 686 00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:25,680 Speaker 4: time together for today is over. I hope you enjoyed it. 687 00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,640 Speaker 4: I'm Sandra Champlain. Thank you so much for listening to 688 00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:34,000 Speaker 4: Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to 689 00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,680 Speaker 4: Coast am Hairinormal podcast Network. 690 00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,239 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Ghost 691 00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:49,279 Speaker 2: Day and Paranormal podcast Network. Make sure and check out 692 00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,600 Speaker 2: all our shows on the iHeartRadio app or by going 693 00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:58,760 Speaker 2: to iHeartRadio dot com