Speaker 1: The world has grown more chaotic and unstable under President
Speaker 1: Joe Biden. Our enemies like Russia, China, and Iran have
Speaker 1: only grown stronger because of Biden's weakness. We saw that
Speaker 1: recently and when Chinese leaders Hi Jimpang and Russian President
Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin met for talks in Moscow during a three
Speaker 1: day meeting. This is concerning when you've got people like
Speaker 1: the Air Force General Mike Minahan, head of Air Mobility Command,
Speaker 1: saying that the United States in China will fight in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. This also becomes concerning when we're bogged
Speaker 1: down in Ukraine right now fighting Russia. We're depleting our military, arsenal,
Speaker 1: financial resources, and without any sort of defined plan of
Speaker 1: what winning actually would look like there or if Ukraine
Speaker 1: can even win. So what does all of this mean
Speaker 1: for the United States. Rebecca Koffler is a strategic military
Speaker 1: intelligence analyst who previously worked as a Russian doctrine and
Speaker 1: strategic specialist in the Defense and Eligence Agency, and she
Speaker 1: joins us to break it all down. She's also the
Speaker 1: author of the book Putin's Playbook, So go check that out.
Speaker 1: Stay tuned for Rebecca Koffler. So, Rebecca, Chinese leader Shi
Speaker 1: Jimping and Russian President Vladimir Putin just recently held talks
Speaker 1: in Moscow. What are your big takeaways from these three
Speaker 1: day meetings and what we have learned from them so far?
Speaker 1: The takeaways are huge, Lisa, First, if I may let
Speaker 1: me read your quote of what She Jinping told Putin
Speaker 1: as he was saying goodbye to his quote unquote, dear friend,
Speaker 1: changes a taking place now that haven't happened in a
Speaker 1: hundred years. When we are together, we drive these changes.
Speaker 1: Putin responded, agreed, So here the takes the takeaways. First,
Speaker 1: the two She Jumping and Putin forming a permanent anti
Speaker 1: US block with China as global center of gravity. What
Speaker 1: does it mean? Both of them have written what I
Speaker 1: would call manifestos in their respective state newspapers outlining their
Speaker 1: vision how they see the world. What they want to do, Lisa,
Speaker 1: is transform the world, to shift the balance of power
Speaker 1: in their own favor, specifically in China's China is on
Speaker 1: an upward trajectory and the Rush is on a downward trajectory.
Speaker 1: So Putin specifically kind of signaled to she that China
Speaker 1: is now a higher ranking higher ranking member of the partnership,
Speaker 1: if you're Will. So what they were strategizing about is
Speaker 1: how do they displace the United States from its top
Speaker 1: place as the dominant political, economic, and military power. And
Speaker 1: that's China's goal by twenty fourty nine. And so they're
Speaker 1: planning to replace the dollar with the petra Yuan is
Speaker 1: the dominant currency of international reserves. And more importantly, they
Speaker 1: want to challenge the United States potentially in a two
Speaker 1: theater war. And my intelligence assessment is that she would
Speaker 1: possibly authorize China's incursion into Taiwan during Prison Biden's first term.
Speaker 1: You know, we're often told, Rebecca that, look, we have
Speaker 1: to be involved in Ukraine, because if we didn't get
Speaker 1: involved in Ukraine, if we didn't take this fight against Russia,
Speaker 1: then China would see it as a green light to
Speaker 1: invade Taiwan. But if you're China, wouldn't you want us
Speaker 1: preoccupied in Ukraine. We've depleted our military arsenal, we've joined
Speaker 1: our finances, we were distracted. Right now, you are exactly correct, Lisa,
Speaker 1: and I heard you talk about this or not on
Speaker 1: box and you just nailed this analysis. Because all of
Speaker 1: these pundits, right, they think like Americans, but our adversaries
Speaker 1: don't think like Americans. Russians think like the Russians, and
Speaker 1: Chinese think like the Chinese. So what she jumping is
Speaker 1: pondering right now is that, as you said, he has
Speaker 1: two of its top geopolitical adversaries just decimating each other's
Speaker 1: combat readiness in a proxy war. So there's this famous
Speaker 1: Chinese program a wise monkey, and monkey is a young
Speaker 1: is a symbol of wisdom and shrewdness and intelligence in
Speaker 1: Chinese culture. Right, So a shrewd monkey is sitting atop
Speaker 1: of the mountain watching down the valley how two tigers
Speaker 1: are fighting ferociously, and she's waiting patiently to see how
Speaker 1: this ends. And this is what China is doing right now,
Speaker 1: because we are the only country that can intervene and
Speaker 1: disrupt China's plans to take over Taiwan. And we simply
Speaker 1: will not have the combat readiness needed and the military
Speaker 1: arsenal because we are hyper focused on this Ukraine business.
Speaker 1: And so Joe Biden and his team are absolutely, you know, incompetent.
Speaker 1: They are missing the forest for the tree. You're exactly right, well,
Speaker 1: and you've written a lot about some of the steps
Speaker 1: at present, she is taken installing a wartime cabinet directing
Speaker 1: his military for war. Is this just posturing or how
Speaker 1: real is this threat for the United States? Oh, it
Speaker 1: is absolutely real, Lisa. In fact, we are living in
Speaker 1: the riskiest period in modern history in my analysis. Here's why,
Speaker 1: because we face a two front war and we're simply
Speaker 1: capable of fighting it. We do have the doctrine, but
Speaker 1: we have eroded our capability because our pentagon is actually
Speaker 1: focused on pronouns and you know, teaching Marxist ideologists to
Speaker 1: our military officers instead of how to win wars. And
Speaker 1: so she knows this. You know, it is not costing.
Speaker 1: He's doing all of these things that we call in
Speaker 1: the intelligence business i NW or indications and warnings in
Speaker 1: plain language. These are the signposts when we assess does
Speaker 1: the country transition onto a wartime footing. There are certain
Speaker 1: checkmarks that we're looking for, and China's pasture right now
Speaker 1: fits all those. As you said, he installed back in
Speaker 1: October the wartime cabinet. He also gave direction to his
Speaker 1: armed forces to get ready for war, very very specifically.
Speaker 1: He directed them to get all their energy, all their weaponry.
Speaker 1: Here's what he said, the entire military must concentrate all
Speaker 1: energy on fighting a war, direct all works toward warfare,
Speaker 1: and speed up to build their ability to win. So
Speaker 1: here's what they're doing in order to win. China has
Speaker 1: beefed up its space order of battle from two hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty to four hundred and ninety nine satellites. Why
Speaker 1: is that. It's because every aspect of fighting right now
Speaker 1: is conducted through satellite constellation, anything from mister warning to
Speaker 1: navigation to reconnaissance, commander control. At the same time, China
Speaker 1: is developing and fielding count what we call counter space
Speaker 1: weapons too, and I quote blind and deaf and US forces.
Speaker 1: This is part of China's what they call unrestricted warfare concept.
Speaker 1: And these counterspace weapons include kinetic kill missiles, ground based lasers,
Speaker 1: electronic warfare systems, and directed energy weapons and even orbiting
Speaker 1: space robots. And there's a long list of these of
Speaker 1: these items that the Chinese are doing, including developing chemical
Speaker 1: and biological warfare agents that their artillery could be arm duets.
Speaker 1: And so there's a piece that I've written on the
Speaker 1: New York Posts that it's titled White China app is
Speaker 1: ready to go to war with the US over Taiwan,
Speaker 1: and I provide detail on all of these steps. So no,
Speaker 1: it's not posturing, it's actually getting ready for war. Take
Speaker 1: a quick commercial break more with Rebecca Kaffler. Well, and
Speaker 1: you wrote regarding that New York Post article. I found
Speaker 1: this part really interesting. You talk about us down the
Speaker 1: Chinese spy balloon with a four hundred thousand dollars missile,
Speaker 1: pointing out it's an example how China could defeat us
Speaker 1: by depleting our combat arsenal. And you write, imagine China
Speaker 1: sending one hundred balloons ahead of its attack on Taiwan.
Speaker 1: How many f twenty twos would be needed to do
Speaker 1: down the ball Imagine air traffic disruptions across America, Imagine
Speaker 1: the panic that would ensue. Yes, exactly. That's again part
Speaker 1: of their concept that they developed actually back in nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety nine called unrestricted warfare. And that concept was published
Speaker 1: and accidentally was published in the open space and we
Speaker 1: grabbed it, re meaning the United States and the analysts,
Speaker 1: and this is considered to be the seminal paper by
Speaker 1: the Chinese that allows us to leave from their way
Speaker 1: of war. Unfortunately, right now, the very very few, you know,
Speaker 1: expert in the Pentagon who are able to take lessons
Speaker 1: learned from this. And one of the things that the
Speaker 1: Change wrote about is that the US fighting is old
Speaker 1: style the war fighting because they're they're shooting birds with
Speaker 1: golden bullets. This is how they said it. They're shooting
Speaker 1: birds with golden bullets, just like we shot down the
Speaker 1: balloon with the very extensive high tech missile, right four
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars. That is how they plan to further
Speaker 1: erode down combat arsenal that we are already doing to
Speaker 1: ourselves by sending, you know, billions of dollars worth of
Speaker 1: weaponry to Ukraine. We by the way, it's already one
Speaker 1: hundred and ninety six billion dollars worth of weaponry either
Speaker 1: sent or promise to Ukraine. Okay, it's an equivalent of
Speaker 1: Ukraine's entire GDP grows tostic product for twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1: And so the Chinese are watching us doing that, and
Speaker 1: they developing concepts on how they're gonna stretch us thin.
Speaker 1: And that's just one of the ways. Another way is
Speaker 1: to send something like that balloon but also equipped with
Speaker 1: either a kinetic or a non kinetic payload that contains
Speaker 1: cam bio, and so this is what specifically they were
Speaker 1: talking about. They were talking in these doctrinal writings about
Speaker 1: overwhelming the adversaries healthcare system, hospitals and creating panic. And
Speaker 1: so imagine that they equipp the balloon with something like
Speaker 1: CORVID nineteen. This is exactly what happened during COVID nineteen.
Speaker 1: It's another program that the Chinese are running right now.
Speaker 1: How do they weaponize these types of shameric viruses through
Speaker 1: gain of function research? And so we know everything about
Speaker 1: how they fight the war, and yet we are unprepared
Speaker 1: because we're just used to throw money at the program problem.
Speaker 1: You know, we have. We're a very rich country. We
Speaker 1: have superior weaponry, but the industry end of the stams
Speaker 1: a way of war, and they have spent decades on
Speaker 1: how to bypass our technological superiority that they also believe
Speaker 1: is our crutch and our vulnerability. Well. Also, the Washington
Speaker 1: Examiner had reported that the you know, kind of Chinese
Speaker 1: by balloon that we talked about is a delivery platform
Speaker 1: for a potential nuclear emp attack. And our electrical grid
Speaker 1: is so vulnerable it's actually pretty terrifying when you look
Speaker 1: into it and the damage that that could do to America. Oh, yes, absolutely, yes.
Speaker 1: The EMP electromagnetic pulse is another pretty unique, i would
Speaker 1: say type of weapons that we just simply don't pay
Speaker 1: attention to because we so So here's the belief in
Speaker 1: the Pentagon. And as you know, I'm a former DA
Speaker 1: intelligence officer. DA is a military count de bide to CIA,
Speaker 1: and so back in the intelligence community, I warned about
Speaker 1: the Russian prep. Right, I've believed scores and scores of
Speaker 1: military commander's DA, CIA director, President Obama's Messial Security Council
Speaker 1: of the White House, et cetera. But nobody wanted to
Speaker 1: believe that Russia would do what Putin said himself he
Speaker 1: was going to do. All kinds of excuses were given
Speaker 1: to me. You know, No, Russia's not going to do that.
Speaker 1: And so the same thing right now is happening with
Speaker 1: China because we believe we're the tob dog, which we
Speaker 1: are militarily right, and we can potentially for any adversary
Speaker 1: or we can fight them. But with the the experts,
Speaker 1: the so called you know experts in the group, thank
Speaker 1: don't account for is those types of unique strategies like
Speaker 1: loading an EMP onto a balloon and a multi sense
Speaker 1: of package that you know is going to collect intelligence
Speaker 1: and provide it real time to the Chinese. We don't
Speaker 1: account our just our just group think mind that dominate
Speaker 1: in the Pentagon, in the intelligence world, in within the
Speaker 1: White House specifically, you know, with the Biden's White House,
Speaker 1: that's what's going to get us in trouble with the
Speaker 1: countries like Russia China. And it's not just that basically
Speaker 1: Biden created a multi headed monster, right that's just Russia
Speaker 1: in China, they're joined by a run by North Korea,
Speaker 1: you know as Syria. It's basically a bunch of gamesters
Speaker 1: right now trying to figure out how do they challenge
Speaker 1: the United States. Well, and where does Iran fit into
Speaker 1: this equation, because you just mentioned Iran, there's reports that
Speaker 1: they're very close to being able to build a nuclear bomb.
Speaker 1: Talk about Iran's growth and you know power. I mean,
Speaker 1: we've seen all these nations, all of our enemies get
Speaker 1: more powerful under the Bide administration. So talk about Iran
Speaker 1: and where they fit in into this conversation. Absolutely, Iran
Speaker 1: is an ever going threat. So we just had the
Speaker 1: report come out a few weeks ago, the twenty twenty
Speaker 1: three intelligence Assessment by the Office of the Director of
Speaker 1: National Intelligence. Right, and it's spelled out very clearly. Unfortunately
Speaker 1: it wasn't given too much coverage, but I would direct
Speaker 1: to you there's a piece that I provided analysis for
Speaker 1: which is on the Fox News website. It's called US
Speaker 1: Mainland under Threat as Iran pushes assassin nations kidnappings. It's
Speaker 1: written by a colleague of mine, Benjamin wine Cayl. But
Speaker 1: I provide an ass to that. So, nuclear, as you mentioned,
Speaker 1: is one type of threat, right, So, Iran is trying
Speaker 1: to get their hands on the nuclear weapon. And Russia
Speaker 1: and Iran right now of you know, very close, they
Speaker 1: deepening their partnership. Not only that, China has now orchestrated
Speaker 1: the normalization of relations between Iran and Saudi Arabia. So,
Speaker 1: and Russia is the top dog when it comes to
Speaker 1: the nuclear and know how it's the It's the top
Speaker 1: country in the world when it comes to the nuclear arsenality,
Speaker 1: even beast the United States. So if you can imagine
Speaker 1: if the Russians share that technology with the Iranians, you
Speaker 1: know what could possibly go wrong? Right? But then another
Speaker 1: threat that is even much clear also, right, because the
Speaker 1: threshold for actually detonating a nuclear bomb in the homeland
Speaker 1: is very high. Right then, very few countries would ever
Speaker 1: dare to do that and hopefully would detect something like that.
Speaker 1: But there's a much simpler threat that is looming right now,
Speaker 1: and it's reflected in that assessment. Basically, the Iranians are
Speaker 1: developing Condesta networks inside the United States to target Americans.
Speaker 1: So there's a report right now that they are planning
Speaker 1: to effectively penetrate our law enforcement agencies in our government
Speaker 1: institutions and target for assassination and kidnapping those types of professionals.
Speaker 1: In fact, we right now are spending millions of dollars
Speaker 1: providing security to somebody like mic compare right and and
Speaker 1: one of his top advisors during the Trump administration, So
Speaker 1: that these people have gotten so bored that they're planning
Speaker 1: to target, and they have already targeted, like in places
Speaker 1: like New York, for example, they plotted a yeah, an
Speaker 1: assassination of US citizen, a journalist who published the Iranian
Speaker 1: government's human rights abuses. They planned to carry out of order.
Speaker 1: And those capabilities are growing stronger and stronger. And this
Speaker 1: is here within the homeland that I'm talking about so
Speaker 1: I direct people to check out that piece of Fox News.
Speaker 1: I remember that with a journalist. What should we do
Speaker 1: about all of this? That's like a sixty four thousand
Speaker 1: dollar questions that people people ask me about usually raid
Speaker 1: and my response as well, first, you can't allow this
Speaker 1: to happen in the first place. Right, It's very difficult
Speaker 1: right now on the spot, you know, to find a
Speaker 1: magic baller, uh to solve the Russia Ukraine problem. Okay,
Speaker 1: there's zero chance for Ukraine to win. And we can
Speaker 1: go you know, into the reasons why in in the
Speaker 1: next podcast. But that's that's the thing, um. And so
Speaker 1: we didn't. We slept at the wheel, so to speak. Right,
Speaker 1: the best way to fight an adversary is to prevent
Speaker 1: them from attacking a country from attacking you by developing
Speaker 1: a robust determan strategy and and and we didn't, right,
Speaker 1: So the best thing for us to do right now
Speaker 1: is to elect people, you know, who who will be
Speaker 1: adults in the room and who could think strategically rather
Speaker 1: than you know, hyper focus on one little problem. We
Speaker 1: need somebody who looks at the big picture of what's
Speaker 1: going on right now. And unfortunately, the Bindance administration is blissfully,
Speaker 1: you know, oblivious. I mean, look, they just going back
Speaker 1: to like Putin, right they designated the international criminal or
Speaker 1: right now designated Putin as the war criminal. Okay, well
Speaker 1: that's going to make everyone feel better, but what does
Speaker 1: it do in reality? It's just basically cuts off a
Speaker 1: peaceful path for Ukraine. So we're going to have to
Speaker 1: to help Ukrainian fight the Russians until the last Ukrainian standing, right,
Speaker 1: because you can't negotiate with the criminal. And that's just
Speaker 1: the nonsensical type of policy that Biden and his so
Speaker 1: called experts are pursuing. And so we just need to
Speaker 1: get the right people into the White House who are
Speaker 1: able to anticipate threats, not react to that. We're constantly
Speaker 1: in the reactive posture. We need to get ahead of
Speaker 1: the game. And how do you get ahead of the game.
Speaker 1: It's you do your job the intelligence. The primary mission
Speaker 1: of intelligence is to prevent strategic supprise eyes and to
Speaker 1: protect the United States from threats. You do that by
Speaker 1: following very closely those I in doubles used that I
Speaker 1: just talked about, and then develop the appropriate forced pasture.
Speaker 1: They appropriate strategy, they appropriate weapons portfolio, and we're doing
Speaker 1: it all backwards. We let the war happen, and then
Speaker 1: we ohe how do we defeat them? Well, it's a
Speaker 1: little bit too late, and so right now we need
Speaker 1: to really pay attention to what's going on in China
Speaker 1: and develop the strategy accordingly. And unfortunately we don't have
Speaker 1: the right people in charge, and our commander in chief
Speaker 1: is simply you know, it's just not tapable on multiple
Speaker 1: multiple levels. Well, let's pray we get some new leadership
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four because you know, Lord knows we
Speaker 1: need it. Rebecca Kaffler, I appreciate your time. Thanks for
Speaker 1: breaking this all down for us. I always love having
Speaker 1: you on. Thank you for having man. God bless everybody,
Speaker 1: God bless America. Like you said, let's pray we get
Speaker 1: the right people in charge so we can't become a
Speaker 1: normal country and be s country in the world. Again.
Speaker 1: That was Rebecca Coffler with a very informative assessment of
Speaker 1: the growing powers that we see in the nation with
Speaker 1: Russia and China, Duran and what it means for the
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