WEBVTT - China’s Aggression with Rebekah Koffler

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<v Speaker 1>The world has grown more chaotic and unstable under President

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden. Our enemies like Russia, China, and Iran have

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<v Speaker 1>only grown stronger because of Biden's weakness. We saw that

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<v Speaker 1>recently and when Chinese leaders Hi Jimpang and Russian President

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<v Speaker 1>Vladimir Putin met for talks in Moscow during a three

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<v Speaker 1>day meeting. This is concerning when you've got people like

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<v Speaker 1>the Air Force General Mike Minahan, head of Air Mobility Command,

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<v Speaker 1>saying that the United States in China will fight in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five. This also becomes concerning when we're bogged

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<v Speaker 1>down in Ukraine right now fighting Russia. We're depleting our military, arsenal,

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<v Speaker 1>financial resources, and without any sort of defined plan of

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<v Speaker 1>what winning actually would look like there or if Ukraine

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<v Speaker 1>can even win. So what does all of this mean

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<v Speaker 1>for the United States. Rebecca Koffler is a strategic military

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<v Speaker 1>intelligence analyst who previously worked as a Russian doctrine and

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<v Speaker 1>strategic specialist in the Defense and Eligence Agency, and she

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<v Speaker 1>joins us to break it all down. She's also the

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<v Speaker 1>author of the book Putin's Playbook, So go check that out.

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<v Speaker 1>Stay tuned for Rebecca Koffler. So, Rebecca, Chinese leader Shi

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<v Speaker 1>Jimping and Russian President Vladimir Putin just recently held talks

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<v Speaker 1>in Moscow. What are your big takeaways from these three

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<v Speaker 1>day meetings and what we have learned from them so far?

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<v Speaker 1>The takeaways are huge, Lisa, First, if I may let

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<v Speaker 1>me read your quote of what She Jinping told Putin

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<v Speaker 1>as he was saying goodbye to his quote unquote, dear friend,

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<v Speaker 1>changes a taking place now that haven't happened in a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred years. When we are together, we drive these changes.

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<v Speaker 1>Putin responded, agreed, So here the takes the takeaways. First,

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<v Speaker 1>the two She Jumping and Putin forming a permanent anti

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<v Speaker 1>US block with China as global center of gravity. What

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<v Speaker 1>does it mean? Both of them have written what I

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<v Speaker 1>would call manifestos in their respective state newspapers outlining their

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<v Speaker 1>vision how they see the world. What they want to do, Lisa,

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<v Speaker 1>is transform the world, to shift the balance of power

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<v Speaker 1>in their own favor, specifically in China's China is on

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<v Speaker 1>an upward trajectory and the Rush is on a downward trajectory.

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<v Speaker 1>So Putin specifically kind of signaled to she that China

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<v Speaker 1>is now a higher ranking higher ranking member of the partnership,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're Will. So what they were strategizing about is

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<v Speaker 1>how do they displace the United States from its top

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<v Speaker 1>place as the dominant political, economic, and military power. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's China's goal by twenty fourty nine. And so they're

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<v Speaker 1>planning to replace the dollar with the petra Yuan is

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<v Speaker 1>the dominant currency of international reserves. And more importantly, they

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<v Speaker 1>want to challenge the United States potentially in a two

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<v Speaker 1>theater war. And my intelligence assessment is that she would

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<v Speaker 1>possibly authorize China's incursion into Taiwan during Prison Biden's first term.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we're often told, Rebecca that, look, we have

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<v Speaker 1>to be involved in Ukraine, because if we didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>involved in Ukraine, if we didn't take this fight against Russia,

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<v Speaker 1>then China would see it as a green light to

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<v Speaker 1>invade Taiwan. But if you're China, wouldn't you want us

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<v Speaker 1>preoccupied in Ukraine. We've depleted our military arsenal, we've joined

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<v Speaker 1>our finances, we were distracted. Right now, you are exactly correct, Lisa,

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<v Speaker 1>and I heard you talk about this or not on

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<v Speaker 1>box and you just nailed this analysis. Because all of

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<v Speaker 1>these pundits, right, they think like Americans, but our adversaries

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<v Speaker 1>don't think like Americans. Russians think like the Russians, and

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<v Speaker 1>Chinese think like the Chinese. So what she jumping is

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<v Speaker 1>pondering right now is that, as you said, he has

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<v Speaker 1>two of its top geopolitical adversaries just decimating each other's

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<v Speaker 1>combat readiness in a proxy war. So there's this famous

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<v Speaker 1>Chinese program a wise monkey, and monkey is a young

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<v Speaker 1>is a symbol of wisdom and shrewdness and intelligence in

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<v Speaker 1>Chinese culture. Right, So a shrewd monkey is sitting atop

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<v Speaker 1>of the mountain watching down the valley how two tigers

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<v Speaker 1>are fighting ferociously, and she's waiting patiently to see how

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<v Speaker 1>this ends. And this is what China is doing right now,

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<v Speaker 1>because we are the only country that can intervene and

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<v Speaker 1>disrupt China's plans to take over Taiwan. And we simply

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<v Speaker 1>will not have the combat readiness needed and the military

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<v Speaker 1>arsenal because we are hyper focused on this Ukraine business.

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<v Speaker 1>And so Joe Biden and his team are absolutely, you know, incompetent.

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<v Speaker 1>They are missing the forest for the tree. You're exactly right, well,

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<v Speaker 1>and you've written a lot about some of the steps

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<v Speaker 1>at present, she is taken installing a wartime cabinet directing

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<v Speaker 1>his military for war. Is this just posturing or how

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<v Speaker 1>real is this threat for the United States? Oh, it

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<v Speaker 1>is absolutely real, Lisa. In fact, we are living in

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<v Speaker 1>the riskiest period in modern history in my analysis. Here's why,

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<v Speaker 1>because we face a two front war and we're simply

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<v Speaker 1>capable of fighting it. We do have the doctrine, but

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<v Speaker 1>we have eroded our capability because our pentagon is actually

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<v Speaker 1>focused on pronouns and you know, teaching Marxist ideologists to

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<v Speaker 1>our military officers instead of how to win wars. And

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<v Speaker 1>so she knows this. You know, it is not costing.

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<v Speaker 1>He's doing all of these things that we call in

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<v Speaker 1>the intelligence business i NW or indications and warnings in

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<v Speaker 1>plain language. These are the signposts when we assess does

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<v Speaker 1>the country transition onto a wartime footing. There are certain

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<v Speaker 1>checkmarks that we're looking for, and China's pasture right now

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<v Speaker 1>fits all those. As you said, he installed back in

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<v Speaker 1>October the wartime cabinet. He also gave direction to his

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<v Speaker 1>armed forces to get ready for war, very very specifically.

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<v Speaker 1>He directed them to get all their energy, all their weaponry.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what he said, the entire military must concentrate all

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<v Speaker 1>energy on fighting a war, direct all works toward warfare,

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<v Speaker 1>and speed up to build their ability to win. So

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<v Speaker 1>here's what they're doing in order to win. China has

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<v Speaker 1>beefed up its space order of battle from two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty to four hundred and ninety nine satellites. Why

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<v Speaker 1>is that. It's because every aspect of fighting right now

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<v Speaker 1>is conducted through satellite constellation, anything from mister warning to

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<v Speaker 1>navigation to reconnaissance, commander control. At the same time, China

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<v Speaker 1>is developing and fielding count what we call counter space

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<v Speaker 1>weapons too, and I quote blind and deaf and US forces.

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<v Speaker 1>This is part of China's what they call unrestricted warfare concept.

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<v Speaker 1>And these counterspace weapons include kinetic kill missiles, ground based lasers,

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<v Speaker 1>electronic warfare systems, and directed energy weapons and even orbiting

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<v Speaker 1>space robots. And there's a long list of these of

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<v Speaker 1>these items that the Chinese are doing, including developing chemical

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<v Speaker 1>and biological warfare agents that their artillery could be arm duets.

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<v Speaker 1>And so there's a piece that I've written on the

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<v Speaker 1>New York Posts that it's titled White China app is

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<v Speaker 1>ready to go to war with the US over Taiwan,

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<v Speaker 1>and I provide detail on all of these steps. So no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not posturing, it's actually getting ready for war. Take

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<v Speaker 1>a quick commercial break more with Rebecca Kaffler. Well, and

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<v Speaker 1>you wrote regarding that New York Post article. I found

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<v Speaker 1>this part really interesting. You talk about us down the

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<v Speaker 1>Chinese spy balloon with a four hundred thousand dollars missile,

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<v Speaker 1>pointing out it's an example how China could defeat us

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<v Speaker 1>by depleting our combat arsenal. And you write, imagine China

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<v Speaker 1>sending one hundred balloons ahead of its attack on Taiwan.

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<v Speaker 1>How many f twenty twos would be needed to do

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<v Speaker 1>down the ball Imagine air traffic disruptions across America, Imagine

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<v Speaker 1>the panic that would ensue. Yes, exactly. That's again part

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<v Speaker 1>of their concept that they developed actually back in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety nine called unrestricted warfare. And that concept was published

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<v Speaker 1>and accidentally was published in the open space and we

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<v Speaker 1>grabbed it, re meaning the United States and the analysts,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is considered to be the seminal paper by

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<v Speaker 1>the Chinese that allows us to leave from their way

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<v Speaker 1>of war. Unfortunately, right now, the very very few, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>expert in the Pentagon who are able to take lessons

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<v Speaker 1>learned from this. And one of the things that the

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<v Speaker 1>Change wrote about is that the US fighting is old

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<v Speaker 1>style the war fighting because they're they're shooting birds with

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<v Speaker 1>golden bullets. This is how they said it. They're shooting

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<v Speaker 1>birds with golden bullets, just like we shot down the

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<v Speaker 1>balloon with the very extensive high tech missile, right four

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<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand dollars. That is how they plan to further

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<v Speaker 1>erode down combat arsenal that we are already doing to

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<v Speaker 1>ourselves by sending, you know, billions of dollars worth of

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<v Speaker 1>weaponry to Ukraine. We by the way, it's already one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and ninety six billion dollars worth of weaponry either

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<v Speaker 1>sent or promise to Ukraine. Okay, it's an equivalent of

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<v Speaker 1>Ukraine's entire GDP grows tostic product for twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 1>And so the Chinese are watching us doing that, and

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<v Speaker 1>they developing concepts on how they're gonna stretch us thin.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's just one of the ways. Another way is

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<v Speaker 1>to send something like that balloon but also equipped with

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<v Speaker 1>either a kinetic or a non kinetic payload that contains

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<v Speaker 1>cam bio, and so this is what specifically they were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about. They were talking in these doctrinal writings about

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<v Speaker 1>overwhelming the adversaries healthcare system, hospitals and creating panic. And

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<v Speaker 1>so imagine that they equipp the balloon with something like

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<v Speaker 1>CORVID nineteen. This is exactly what happened during COVID nineteen.

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<v Speaker 1>It's another program that the Chinese are running right now.

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<v Speaker 1>How do they weaponize these types of shameric viruses through

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<v Speaker 1>gain of function research? And so we know everything about

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<v Speaker 1>how they fight the war, and yet we are unprepared

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<v Speaker 1>because we're just used to throw money at the program problem.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we have. We're a very rich country. We

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<v Speaker 1>have superior weaponry, but the industry end of the stams

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<v Speaker 1>a way of war, and they have spent decades on

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<v Speaker 1>how to bypass our technological superiority that they also believe

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<v Speaker 1>is our crutch and our vulnerability. Well. Also, the Washington

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<v Speaker 1>Examiner had reported that the you know, kind of Chinese

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<v Speaker 1>by balloon that we talked about is a delivery platform

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<v Speaker 1>for a potential nuclear emp attack. And our electrical grid

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<v Speaker 1>is so vulnerable it's actually pretty terrifying when you look

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<v Speaker 1>into it and the damage that that could do to America. Oh, yes, absolutely, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>The EMP electromagnetic pulse is another pretty unique, i would

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<v Speaker 1>say type of weapons that we just simply don't pay

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<v Speaker 1>attention to because we so So here's the belief in

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<v Speaker 1>the Pentagon. And as you know, I'm a former DA

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<v Speaker 1>intelligence officer. DA is a military count de bide to CIA,

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<v Speaker 1>and so back in the intelligence community, I warned about

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<v Speaker 1>the Russian prep. Right, I've believed scores and scores of

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<v Speaker 1>military commander's DA, CIA director, President Obama's Messial Security Council

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<v Speaker 1>of the White House, et cetera. But nobody wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>believe that Russia would do what Putin said himself he

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<v Speaker 1>was going to do. All kinds of excuses were given

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<v Speaker 1>to me. You know, No, Russia's not going to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>And so the same thing right now is happening with

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<v Speaker 1>China because we believe we're the tob dog, which we

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<v Speaker 1>are militarily right, and we can potentially for any adversary

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<v Speaker 1>or we can fight them. But with the the experts,

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<v Speaker 1>the so called you know experts in the group, thank

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<v Speaker 1>don't account for is those types of unique strategies like

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<v Speaker 1>loading an EMP onto a balloon and a multi sense

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<v Speaker 1>of package that you know is going to collect intelligence

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<v Speaker 1>and provide it real time to the Chinese. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>account our just our just group think mind that dominate

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<v Speaker 1>in the Pentagon, in the intelligence world, in within the

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<v Speaker 1>White House specifically, you know, with the Biden's White House,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what's going to get us in trouble with the

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<v Speaker 1>countries like Russia China. And it's not just that basically

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<v Speaker 1>Biden created a multi headed monster, right that's just Russia

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<v Speaker 1>in China, they're joined by a run by North Korea,

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<v Speaker 1>you know as Syria. It's basically a bunch of gamesters

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<v Speaker 1>right now trying to figure out how do they challenge

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<v Speaker 1>the United States. Well, and where does Iran fit into

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<v Speaker 1>this equation, because you just mentioned Iran, there's reports that

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<v Speaker 1>they're very close to being able to build a nuclear bomb.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk about Iran's growth and you know power. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen all these nations, all of our enemies get

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<v Speaker 1>more powerful under the Bide administration. So talk about Iran

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<v Speaker 1>and where they fit in into this conversation. Absolutely, Iran

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<v Speaker 1>is an ever going threat. So we just had the

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<v Speaker 1>report come out a few weeks ago, the twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>three intelligence Assessment by the Office of the Director of

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<v Speaker 1>National Intelligence. Right, and it's spelled out very clearly. Unfortunately

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't given too much coverage, but I would direct

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<v Speaker 1>to you there's a piece that I provided analysis for

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<v Speaker 1>which is on the Fox News website. It's called US

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<v Speaker 1>Mainland under Threat as Iran pushes assassin nations kidnappings. It's

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<v Speaker 1>written by a colleague of mine, Benjamin wine Cayl. But

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<v Speaker 1>I provide an ass to that. So, nuclear, as you mentioned,

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<v Speaker 1>is one type of threat, right, So, Iran is trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get their hands on the nuclear weapon. And Russia

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<v Speaker 1>and Iran right now of you know, very close, they

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<v Speaker 1>deepening their partnership. Not only that, China has now orchestrated

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<v Speaker 1>the normalization of relations between Iran and Saudi Arabia. So,

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<v Speaker 1>and Russia is the top dog when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>the nuclear and know how it's the It's the top

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<v Speaker 1>country in the world when it comes to the nuclear arsenality,

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<v Speaker 1>even beast the United States. So if you can imagine

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<v Speaker 1>if the Russians share that technology with the Iranians, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what could possibly go wrong? Right? But then another

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<v Speaker 1>threat that is even much clear also, right, because the

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<v Speaker 1>threshold for actually detonating a nuclear bomb in the homeland

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<v Speaker 1>is very high. Right then, very few countries would ever

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<v Speaker 1>dare to do that and hopefully would detect something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's a much simpler threat that is looming right now,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's reflected in that assessment. Basically, the Iranians are

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<v Speaker 1>developing Condesta networks inside the United States to target Americans.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a report right now that they are planning

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<v Speaker 1>to effectively penetrate our law enforcement agencies in our government

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<v Speaker 1>institutions and target for assassination and kidnapping those types of professionals.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, we right now are spending millions of dollars

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<v Speaker 1>providing security to somebody like mic compare right and and

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<v Speaker 1>one of his top advisors during the Trump administration, So

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<v Speaker 1>that these people have gotten so bored that they're planning

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<v Speaker 1>to target, and they have already targeted, like in places

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<v Speaker 1>like New York, for example, they plotted a yeah, an

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<v Speaker 1>assassination of US citizen, a journalist who published the Iranian

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<v Speaker 1>government's human rights abuses. They planned to carry out of order.

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<v Speaker 1>And those capabilities are growing stronger and stronger. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is here within the homeland that I'm talking about so

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<v Speaker 1>I direct people to check out that piece of Fox News.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember that with a journalist. What should we do

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<v Speaker 1>about all of this? That's like a sixty four thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollar questions that people people ask me about usually raid

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<v Speaker 1>and my response as well, first, you can't allow this

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<v Speaker 1>to happen in the first place. Right, It's very difficult

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<v Speaker 1>right now on the spot, you know, to find a

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<v Speaker 1>magic baller, uh to solve the Russia Ukraine problem. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>there's zero chance for Ukraine to win. And we can

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<v Speaker 1>go you know, into the reasons why in in the

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<v Speaker 1>next podcast. But that's that's the thing, um. And so

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't. We slept at the wheel, so to speak. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>the best way to fight an adversary is to prevent

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<v Speaker 1>them from attacking a country from attacking you by developing

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<v Speaker 1>a robust determan strategy and and and we didn't, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So the best thing for us to do right now

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<v Speaker 1>is to elect people, you know, who who will be

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<v Speaker 1>adults in the room and who could think strategically rather

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<v Speaker 1>than you know, hyper focus on one little problem. We

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<v Speaker 1>need somebody who looks at the big picture of what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on right now. And unfortunately, the Bindance administration is blissfully,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, oblivious. I mean, look, they just going back

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<v Speaker 1>to like Putin, right they designated the international criminal or

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<v Speaker 1>right now designated Putin as the war criminal. Okay, well

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to make everyone feel better, but what does

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<v Speaker 1>it do in reality? It's just basically cuts off a

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<v Speaker 1>peaceful path for Ukraine. So we're going to have to

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<v Speaker 1>to help Ukrainian fight the Russians until the last Ukrainian standing, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because you can't negotiate with the criminal. And that's just

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<v Speaker 1>the nonsensical type of policy that Biden and his so

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<v Speaker 1>called experts are pursuing. And so we just need to

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<v Speaker 1>get the right people into the White House who are

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<v Speaker 1>able to anticipate threats, not react to that. We're constantly

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<v Speaker 1>in the reactive posture. We need to get ahead of

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<v Speaker 1>the game. And how do you get ahead of the game.

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<v Speaker 1>It's you do your job the intelligence. The primary mission

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<v Speaker 1>of intelligence is to prevent strategic supprise eyes and to

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<v Speaker 1>protect the United States from threats. You do that by

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<v Speaker 1>following very closely those I in doubles used that I

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<v Speaker 1>just talked about, and then develop the appropriate forced pasture.

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<v Speaker 1>They appropriate strategy, they appropriate weapons portfolio, and we're doing

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<v Speaker 1>it all backwards. We let the war happen, and then

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<v Speaker 1>we ohe how do we defeat them? Well, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit too late, and so right now we need

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<v Speaker 1>to really pay attention to what's going on in China

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<v Speaker 1>and develop the strategy accordingly. And unfortunately we don't have

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<v Speaker 1>the right people in charge, and our commander in chief

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<v Speaker 1>is simply you know, it's just not tapable on multiple

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<v Speaker 1>multiple levels. Well, let's pray we get some new leadership

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty four because you know, Lord knows we

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<v Speaker 1>need it. Rebecca Kaffler, I appreciate your time. Thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>breaking this all down for us. I always love having

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<v Speaker 1>you on. Thank you for having man. God bless everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>God bless America. Like you said, let's pray we get

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<v Speaker 1>the right people in charge so we can't become a

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<v Speaker 1>normal country and be s country in the world. Again.

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<v Speaker 1>That was Rebecca Coffler with a very informative assessment of

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<v Speaker 1>the growing powers that we see in the nation with

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<v Speaker 1>Russia and China, Duran and what it means for the

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