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Speaker 1: buck Sexton Show. This is the buck Sexton Show where

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Speaker 1: me if we've never seen a president of the United

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Speaker 1: has conducted himself all his life, but including astonishingly enough

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Speaker 1: Carl Bernstein, beloved by the left wing mainstream media, on

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Speaker 1: the details? How has he been akhn man as president

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Speaker 1: the United States? Where is the khana? I want to know?

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Speaker 1: Because he lies about unimportant matters, because he exaggerates, because

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Speaker 1: but where is the Khan that we're supposed to care about?

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Speaker 1: It's what exactly and at what point do we start

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Speaker 1: already realize it. But when does the rest of the

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Speaker 1: country catch onto the fact that if you unleash the

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Speaker 1: mission of search and destroy, the person's going to be ruined.

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Speaker 1: Their reputation will be ruined, their professional life will be ruined,

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Speaker 1: of all that, they may lose their freedom as well.

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Speaker 1: Nobody could withstand this. You know. One of the things

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Speaker 1: that has been most amazing about Trump has just been

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Speaker 1: his willingness to stay in the fight. You know, I've

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Speaker 1: had days where I thought, man, maybe Trump has just

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Speaker 1: he's just had it. Man, he doesn't need this. They

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Speaker 1: don't want to do this. In a nice life, A billionaire,

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Speaker 1: I know, he's got a very big ego. Everybody in

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Speaker 1: people always talk about the undermining or institutions, and they

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Speaker 1: discuss how, oh Trump does this and that. What I

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Speaker 1: following message. If you have a good life, if you're happy,

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Speaker 1: have what you need and what you what? What do

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Speaker 1: you've acquired enough that you're comfortable whatever that means for you.

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Speaker 1: Would you really want to challenge the machine? Do you

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Speaker 1: want to be a part of this effort to change

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Speaker 1: sense of sanity and public discussions about issues that we've

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Speaker 1: been lied to. I mean, I keep telling you we're

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Speaker 1: You know. I had I had someone today come in

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Speaker 1: why it's some big win this this plan in Poland

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Speaker 1: at the next meeting, you know, and get a lot

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Speaker 1: and we'll just go We'll just keep going through this,

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Speaker 1: We'll keep going through this whole process. But if you

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Speaker 1: US is fortunately because the Trump not signing on for

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Speaker 1: all this nonsense. But even if they did what everyone

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Speaker 1: says they're gonna do at this meeting, they wouldn't even

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Speaker 1: climate change. So even if they did this perfectly, it's

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Speaker 1: not enough, but they still want to pat themselves in

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Speaker 1: congratulation circle for everybody who supports it, for everybody who's there,

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Speaker 1: this is meaningless. It's nonsense, and they become hostile to

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Speaker 1: you for pointing this out. It's obvious, but they respond

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Speaker 1: to lose my mind. But then there's also this part

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Speaker 1: of me that that sees what the Trump effect is,

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Speaker 1: if you will, or maybe you'd call it the Mueller effect,

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Speaker 1: have is this echo chamber effect getting stronger and stronger

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Speaker 1: And I want to know why do they think Whenever

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Speaker 1: they go, what, very few of them were better than

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Speaker 1: I was at school. I'm just going to be honest

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Speaker 1: with you. I mean, very few of them are people

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Speaker 1: that academically, because I know who they are and I

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Speaker 1: question it. What is this based in? It's really based

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Speaker 1: in this this elitism that people have bought into on

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Speaker 1: You don't have to know anything. You just have to

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Speaker 1: but you know, Carl bernste It was really referring to

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Speaker 1: because the Trump Foundation, the charitable foundation started by Donald Trump,

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Speaker 1: Just one more, that's one thing that we're one So,

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Speaker 1: What was Judge Sullivan doing? And what does it mean

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Speaker 1: for Flynn, for the Mueller probe, for justice and the

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Speaker 1: what happened today with Judge Sullivan, with Flynn with a

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Speaker 1: who pleaded guilty to one charge of making false statements

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Speaker 1: from the filings, and what has happened over the last

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Speaker 1: year or so through a series of filings, through a

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Speaker 1: lot of documents, learn people started to cast doubt on

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Speaker 1: what actually happened with that flee wondering, well, did he lie?

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Speaker 1: Why have we not seen the original FBI document from

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Speaker 1: that conversation with how they wrote down what he actually

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Speaker 1: said or what they said he said. And late last

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Speaker 1: week the judge ordered all those documents to be filed.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting that they weren't filed and made available over

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Speaker 1: a nearly two year long investigation until Judge Sullivan ordered

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Speaker 1: them to be made available. And then on Monday, late

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Speaker 1: last night, they Judge Sullivan ordered the original three O

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Speaker 1: two to be filed and they looked through that. That

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Speaker 1: gets us to this morning and this afternoon, which was

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Speaker 1: the flee And what happened was, through a series of

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Speaker 1: court filings, flends people had kind of intimated that maybe

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Speaker 1: he didn't lie, Maybe the Feds had been a little

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Speaker 1: wishywashy with the evidence. Maybe this was all coercion I'd

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Speaker 1: been given the lawyer. And what Judge him at Sullivan

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Speaker 1: did is he gave Flynn an opportunity to just take

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Speaker 1: those intimations from the filing head on. He said, do

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Speaker 1: you want to withdraw your plea? And Flinn said no.

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Speaker 1: And I think that kind of took Sullivan a back,

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Speaker 1: having read the filings in the implications that were in there,

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Speaker 1: and he said, so you did lie. Yes, I did lie.

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Speaker 1: Did you know you you could have had a lawyer? Yes,

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Speaker 1: I knew. Did you know that lying to the Federals

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Speaker 1: of Crime? Yes? I knew that. And that seemed to

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Speaker 1: set the judge off because he has a reputation of

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Speaker 1: wanting all the facts from the FBI. He took the

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Speaker 1: extraordinary measure of requiring all these documents to be made public.

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Speaker 1: He got them and he looked and said, wait, there's

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Speaker 1: nothing there. There number one and number two, I'm giving

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Speaker 1: you the opportunity to withdraw the plea and you're not

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Speaker 1: doing it. What on earth is going on? And that

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Speaker 1: seemed to set the tone for the whole hearing. But

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Speaker 1: then there was that exchange where he said, couldn't someone

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Speaker 1: make the case that you sold out your country? And

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Speaker 1: then the judge went to a recess and then came

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Speaker 1: back and said, that's not what I meant to say. Well,

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Speaker 1: what do you make of that? Yeah, that that was

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Speaker 1: really odd and it seemed to be based on a

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Speaker 1: mischaracterization of the facts, which I think is why the

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Speaker 1: judge came back. He seemed to be under the impression

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Speaker 1: when he made the initial charge, said well, you could

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Speaker 1: have been charged from the Logan Act. You are an

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Speaker 1: unregistered foreign agent while you were a national security advisor.

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Speaker 1: You know, I might even say you're a traitor. The

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Speaker 1: actual facts were that he had stopped that work for

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Speaker 1: Turkey or for Turkish interests before he became national security advisor,

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Speaker 1: so it kind of wasn't operative there. So that was

693
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Speaker 1: a very strange outburst from the judge. Although taken outside

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Speaker 1: of the legal context, I kind of agree with him.

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Speaker 1: The charges that they gotten him to plea to in

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Speaker 1: my mind, are not nearly serious as serious as the

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Speaker 1: ones they didn't go after him on, namely being an

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Speaker 1: unregistered agent of a foreign government. I think that's far

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Speaker 1: more serious than making false statements to the FBI in

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Speaker 1: an interview which they actually had no business. Yeah, I agree,

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Speaker 1: And I think this is a this is a part

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Speaker 1: that doesn't get enough attention. I think that Flynn. Look,

703
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Speaker 1: I think Flynn got hosed. I mean, yes, he lied,

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Speaker 1: but they you know, they set him up to lie,

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Speaker 1: and they obviously didn't do similar things with Hillary or

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Speaker 1: any of her top people. Of the emails, and everyone

707
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Speaker 1: sees that disparity and understands that that's just that's the

708
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Speaker 1: two tier justice system we have at work for Democrats

709
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: and Republicans unfortunately. But on this Flynn stuff, being involved

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Speaker 1: with guys who are trying to get a Turkish, a

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Speaker 1: Turkish dissident from Pennsylvania extradited to Turkey for charges of

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Speaker 1: being involved in a coup, that nobody who knows the

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Speaker 1: issue that I know, have any belief that he actually

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Speaker 1: was involved in where he will be tortured and disappeared

715
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Speaker 1: is not okay, No, it's not. And That's part of

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Speaker 1: my I have so many problems with the Mueller investigation,

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Speaker 1: namely because it's very one sided. You had Tony Podesta,

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Speaker 1: the brother of Hillary Clinton's campaign chairman, who was an

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Speaker 1: unregistered foreign agent. He was Paulman of Forts Partner. You

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Speaker 1: had Mercury Public Affairs doing the same thing. None of

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Speaker 1: those people got charged. John Podess's brother didn't get charged,

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Speaker 1: even though he was doing the thing. You had Andrew McCabe, who,

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Speaker 1: according to the Department of Justice Inspector General, lied four

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Speaker 1: times to federal agents, including I believe three times under

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, where are the false statement charge? Yeah, why

726
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Speaker 1: hasn't he been charged? By the way, do we ever

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Speaker 1: get an answer to that? I have no idea. We

728
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: know that Hillary and her people made false statements, they

729
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Speaker 1: weren't charged. We know that Hillary's people not only were

730
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Speaker 1: not charged, but fact witnesses posing his attorneys were allowed

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Speaker 1: to be in these depositions and interviews with him, and oh,

732
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Speaker 1: by the way, at the end of that, they got immunity.

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Speaker 1: So my beef is not specifically with how Flynn was

734
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Speaker 1: charged or why if he lied, he deserves to pay

735
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Speaker 1: the consequence. I don't understand this two tiered system of justice.

736
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Speaker 1: This two America's where if you have the right politics,

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Speaker 1: you can do whatever you want to get off scott free.

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Speaker 1: But if you have the wrong politics, my goodness, we're

739
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 1: going to make sure you go to prison or you

740
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Speaker 1: have the convict scarlet letter on you for the rest

741
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Speaker 1: of your life. It's it's the miscarriage in the misapplication

742
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Speaker 1: of justice across both spectrum, both political parties, that I

743
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 1: find so disturbing. Here, why do you think that this

744
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Speaker 1: got pushed off that the Flynn sentencing got pushed off

745
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Speaker 1: to March. I'm seeing a lot of different theories about this,

746
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Speaker 1: and after today I see here and I say, well,

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Speaker 1: I could believe a couple of different things. What do

748
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Speaker 1: you think? Well, so, I don't know. I'm not in

749
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Speaker 1: Judge Sullivan's head. The impression that I got was that

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Speaker 1: he was very upset by the kind of tiptoeing games

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Speaker 1: that Flenn's counsel were trying to play. He was upset

752
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Speaker 1: about the unregistered foreign agent stuff. He was upset that

753
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Speaker 1: Flynn was saying he took responsibility while kind of intimating

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Speaker 1: and filings that maybe it wasn't his fault. It seemed

755
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Speaker 1: to me very clear that the judge wanted to sentence

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Speaker 1: Flynn to some amount of prison time, despite the recommendation

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Speaker 1: from the prosecutors that he gets none. And so I

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Speaker 1: think what he is doing, especially in light of this

759
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Speaker 1: far a case that came up yesterday with two of

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Speaker 1: Flynn's Turkish associates, that he wants to give Flynn another

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00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:08,280
Speaker 1: ninety days to help DJ in any way he can

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Speaker 1: cooperate in that case, and then at the end of

763
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Speaker 1: ninety days, we'll kind of see where his attitude is

764
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Speaker 1: and what his contributions are, and then the judge will

765
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Speaker 1: sentence in them. So I think what the judge was

766
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 1: actually doing was restraining his own impulse to want to

767
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 1: sentence Flynn to prison and give him one more chance

768
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 1: to show that he accepts responsibility for what he did.

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00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: You know, I why did Flynn Lee? People ask me

770
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 1: this all the time, and I say, look, the heads

771
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 1: of the intelligence community in general, in the last two years,

772
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: if they were a stock, the stock has plummeted. I mean,

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00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,240
Speaker 1: you know, we don't think of because of people like Brennan,

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Speaker 1: because of people like Hayden and Clapper. The place where

775
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: I used to work does not have the same luster

776
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 1: in the public's eye as it once did. And I

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00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 1: think rightfully so, but I think you got to put

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Speaker 1: Flynn in that category two at this point, What the

779
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 1: heck was he thinking? Well, I mean, yeah, it's I

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00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: will say my confidence in the intelligence community has been

781
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: in very low in the tank for a while, starting

782
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 1: with James Clapper lying to Congress under oath about mass surveillance,

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Speaker 1: John Brennan lying to Congress under oath about spying on

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Speaker 1: Congress itself. Who knows what gets into the heads of

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Speaker 1: these people. Why did he think he didn't need a lawyer?

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Speaker 1: Clearly you have two FBI agents. They're trying to ring

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Speaker 1: you up. Then, even knowing that they had the transcripts

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Speaker 1: of his phone calls, apparently chose to give them very

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00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: different characterizations than what they had in front of them.

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Speaker 1: Who knows why people do what they do. But if

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00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 1: he lied, he deserves to be held accountable for it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: But I mean, I think we can just and this

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Speaker 1: is just I'm just expressing my frustration of this at

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Speaker 1: this point. But you know, Sean, there are limits too stupid, right,

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Speaker 1: Usually you run to a place of such stupid to

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00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: not tell the truth when the guys that are there

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Speaker 1: are going to go back and look at exactly word

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Speaker 1: for word what you said, and to not have a

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Speaker 1: a your present, and to think that you could compose

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Speaker 1: on the spot and get away, it's just it just

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00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: defies belief. And there was no crime. I mean, the

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00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 1: other part of this that gets me frustrated is just

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Speaker 1: that there's, to your point, you know who gets charged

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Speaker 1: and who doesn't. People need to understand that's everything. Forget

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Speaker 1: about trial by jury, forget about a vigorous defense. The

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Speaker 1: decision to prosecute is the decision to destroy. But Flynn

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Speaker 1: should know that he should. Yeah, I mean, I have

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Speaker 1: no reason why the same question could be asked. Why

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Speaker 1: did McCabe lie Apparently he thought he could get away

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Speaker 1: with it? Why did Clapper lie he thought he could

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Speaker 1: get away with it? Why did Brennan lye he thought

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00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: he would could get away with it? Yeah, three of

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00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: those four guys were right. So if you're just playing

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Speaker 1: the odds there, maybe it's not such a terrible decision

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Speaker 1: to make, beyond the terrible moral and ethical components of it,

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Speaker 1: and so on. A much simpler taking us to a

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Speaker 1: simpler time, a simpler issue. Sean we're speaking of Sean

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Speaker 1: So they came out issued a new rule today, or

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Speaker 1: finalize the new rule today, which characterizes bump stocks, which

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Speaker 1: gun which uses the recoil of the gun to move

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Speaker 1: your finger back and forth across the trigger, as opposed

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Speaker 1: to you moving pressing it deliberately. The problem with that,

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Speaker 1: regardless of how you feel about bump stocks, is that

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Speaker 1: as machine guns because there's a very very specific definition

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Speaker 1: mechanics of a gun that says a machine gun is

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Speaker 1: one where you pull the trigger once and it fires

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Speaker 1: a bunch of bullets. A bump stock, even if it

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Speaker 1: gives you the ability to fire real fast, it doesn't

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Speaker 1: pull the trigger for each round. All it does is

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Speaker 1: often your finger goes back across the trigger. So I

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Speaker 1: think the courts are going to take a very hard

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Speaker 1: look at this rule. I think if they are facelessly

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Speaker 1: applying the statute and the law, it will get tossed

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Speaker 1: out pretty quickly because you simply cannot have an agency

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Speaker 1: going in redefining the law unilaterally when Congress has already

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Speaker 1: Sean Davids to the federalist everybody, Sean, always get to

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Speaker 1: talk to you, man. Always a pleasure. Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: You know, you have so many different legal interpretations of

867
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 1: what really has gone on here with FLYNT and what

868
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 1: the applications are. And you know, you've got very very

869
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: smart people coming at this from different perspectives, in some

870
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: cases wildly different perspectives. And I know that Judge Knaps

871
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 1: is run around speaking of different perspectives Judge Politano, and

872
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: he's saying that he thinks Trump could be indicted based

873
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 1: on what they already have. Right now, I'm just like, Judge,

874
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? I like Judge Nat, but

875
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: I think he's I think he's way off on this one.

876
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 1: But I for example, you know you got Durst saying

877
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: that Flynn was coerced here. But that didn't seem to

878
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 1: hold water today based on what the judge was saying

879
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,760
Speaker 1: to him. But you know, here's the Durst play eleven.

880
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 1: I don't believe it was a valid play. I think

881
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 1: that Flynn was coerced into pleading guilty to a crime

882
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 1: of which he was innocent. He was coerced by threats

883
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 1: against his son, threats against his fortune. And the reason

884
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,439
Speaker 1: I think he was innocent is even if he told

885
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 1: an untruth, which it seems as if he did, it

886
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: was not a material untruth. The government already knew everything

887
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 1: they asked him about. They knew that he had conversations

888
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 1: with the diplomat, they knew the nature of the conversations.

889
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: They had recordings of it. And when you ask a

890
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 1: question that you already know the answer to and you

891
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 1: have proof of the answer, there's only one purpose to

892
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 1: the question, and that is to elicit a lie to

893
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 1: do a morality test, and that is not a proper

894
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 1: function of the FBI. I hope the judge will agree

895
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,839
Speaker 1: with that. It will take a lot of courage for

896
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: the judge to throw out a plea that has already

897
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 1: been accepted by him. Didn't look like that judge is

898
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 1: ready for that today. We got ninety days now to

899
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,879
Speaker 1: figure out what's going to happen here. But I think

900
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: that the dirsh is right here on the issue of

901
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: material a material lie. You know, if I'm asked, you

902
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 1: know who I emailed last week, and I name nine

903
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: out of ten people, and that tenth person is just

904
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: a memory lapse, that isn't a material lie necessarily. I mean,

905
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: it could be. But you know, if they asked me

906
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 1: what I had for breakfast two weeks ago, and I

907
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 1: think I had a bagel, but really I had corn flakes,

908
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 1: that doesn't matter unless there's some reason for it to matter.

909
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 1: You know, it can't just be a function of your

910
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 1: recollection of a fact is different from what they believe

911
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:05,280
Speaker 1: it is or what they can prove it is. Because

912
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:09,399
Speaker 1: memory is imperfect and it has to also matter. It

913
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:12,320
Speaker 1: has to matter. That's what material means. It has to matter.

914
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 1: And Flynn's lye did not matter. So but they apply

915
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 1: that statute now in a way where they can effectively

916
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: get you. They'll say anything matters. You know, we've got

917
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:26,799
Speaker 1: Andy McCarthy, he's got a different, a different take on

918
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 1: this from play thirteen. This is one of the one

919
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: of the real curiosities of the way this has been covered.

920
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 1: What's happened here is Muller has recommended something that I

921
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 1: think is almost certain to happen anyway. That is, if

922
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 1: Muller hadn't made any recommendation of no jail time, this

923
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 1: judge would impose no jail time on General Flynn because

924
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 1: his crime, if his crime is trivial. And on the

925
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 1: other side of the ledger, he's given thirty three years

926
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 1: of decorated heroic service to the United States, and he's

927
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,399
Speaker 1: a first defender. In a normal case, he would get

928
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 1: no jail time. But with Muller making a motion to

929
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: get him no jail time, the coverage will now be

930
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 1: he got no jail time because of the explosive cooperation

931
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: he gave to the Muller investigation. And I just don't

932
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: think there's any evidence that he did that. And yet

933
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: now we're in a position where it sounded like, and

934
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 1: we just talked to Sean about this, it sounded like

935
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:29,359
Speaker 1: the judge was about to give him jail time. I mean,

936
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 1: this is the whole the whole thing is such a mess.

937
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: And then you have Jonathan Turley. I mean, it's just

938
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 1: we're going with the big legal eagles who are appearing

939
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 1: on all the networks. Is here Jonathan Turley who is

940
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 1: saying that this is actually serious. He says that it

941
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 1: is matural that this is serious play twelve. And you

942
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,319
Speaker 1: can see why the original agents reportedly didn't believe he

943
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 1: was intentionally lying. You know. So the question is is

944
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Speaker 1: this a sort of a case of being you know,

945
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 1: charge as a crime for being a chump? I mean

946
00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,839
Speaker 1: because he goes to this meeting without a lawyer. They

947
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 1: I passed the protocol to let the White House Council

948
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 1: be aware of this interview in this request, and it

949
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 1: just snowballs out of control. And that violation of protocol,

950
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 1: I wrote in a column recently, is a very serious one. Yeah,

951
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 1: so that the I'm sorry, So what he views is

952
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 1: serious is what the FBI did. So, you know, you

953
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 1: got people coming to this from from all over the place,

954
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 1: you know, people who are saying that, oh, he's guilty,

955
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 1: he lied. You know, closed the you know, closed the

956
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 1: book on this, and it's all over with. For you'd

957
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 1: like to think that in a case like this, there

958
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:38,399
Speaker 1: could be some agreement over what's really gone on here,

959
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 1: over over what matters. So far, most of the facts

960
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 1: are in agreement, although I need to understand how is

961
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 1: it that the original FBI agents didn't think he was

962
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: because they compared it to transcripts later on and then

963
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 1: they looked at what he said and they compared it,

964
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 1: But they didn't keep an exact transcript of what he said.

965
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 1: From what I understand, they were taking notes. So how

966
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 1: is it possible, And I'm just thinking through this with

967
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 1: all of you, how could he be caught in a

968
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 1: lie later on based only upon the notes and therefore

969
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:16,720
Speaker 1: the recollection of the FBI agents talking to him. Wouldn't

970
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,319
Speaker 1: you need the specificity of his exact words and the

971
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 1: exact words of the transcript and compare them side by side. Well,

972
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 1: they don't have a transcript of what Flynn told the

973
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 1: FBI agents. From what I understand, it wasn't recorded. And

974
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:34,720
Speaker 1: beyond that, where does it actually get dealt with whether

975
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 1: this is material or not? And what if the FBI

976
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 1: guy taking this down struck wasn't telling the truth. We

977
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 1: just we're not allowed to believe it. That's possible. So

978
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 1: a lot going on in the legal world. I want

979
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 1: to bring in some expertise and some legal background to

980
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 1: weigh in and all this. We have Sidney Powell with

981
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 1: us now. She's a former federal prosecutor. She used to

982
00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 1: work specifically a lot of appeals level issues and then

983
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:04,360
Speaker 1: also the author of License to Lie and a London

984
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 1: Center fellow. Sidney, thank you so much for joining us

985
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 1: on the program, My pleasure, Buck, thank you for having

986
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 1: me enjoy your show. Thank you. So please tell me

987
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 1: just what's your reaction to what happened today at the

988
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 1: Flinn sentencing in that courtroom, because it seemed like the

989
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 1: judge didn't even really know what was going on what

990
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 1: happened today. I think he has a number of concerns

991
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 1: that were raised by both what the government's been filing

992
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 1: and what the defense filed, and by the very nature

993
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 1: of the plea itself, as well as the factual basis

994
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 1: for the plea, and they weren't all resolved today. So

995
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 1: I was very glad that General Flynn accepted his offer

996
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 1: of additional time in postponing the sentencing. The story that

997
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are missing is that

998
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 1: the judge has additional questions that he is going to

999
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 1: be asking the prosecution in particular as well as the

1000
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 1: defense giving them a chance to answer them, one of

1001
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 1: which is, how were these statements that General Flynn made

1002
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 1: even material to the investigation that the FBI was supposedly

1003
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 1: conducting since they knew the answers to the questions they

1004
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 1: went over to ask him, And that goes to the

1005
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 1: very validity of the factual basis for the plea itself.

1006
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 1: I also would want to know, and perhaps I missed

1007
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 1: this Sydney, but to my understanding, it has still not

1008
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 1: been made clear what exactly the crime was that they

1009
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 1: were supposed to be investigating when they went to speak

1010
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 1: to General Flynn. Well, there wasn't one. Well there you go.

1011
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 1: I think that was actually made clear today because he

1012
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 1: got the government to admit that there was no crime

1013
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 1: in General Flynn talking to Ambassador Asley Act. And in fact,

1014
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 1: when he when the Special Counsel Assistant mentioned the possibility

1015
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 1: of the Logan Act, he was practically laughed out of

1016
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 1: the courtroom. And Judge Sullivan said, oh, you mean that

1017
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 1: statute that nobody's ever been prosecuted under, And the whole

1018
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 1: courtroom burst out in laughter. Right, So you know, why

1019
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 1: would I keep hearing from people? Oh? Well, Flynn lied.

1020
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 1: Flynn lied, and that's all that matters, and that's all

1021
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 1: that anybody's supposed to care about here. Meanwhile, from from

1022
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 1: what we're actually hearing, there was a decision made. I mean,

1023
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 1: did you ever see anything like this when you were

1024
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 1: working as a as a federal prosecutor or? The FBI

1025
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 1: is like, well, there's no crime here, let's just go

1026
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 1: ask this person a bunch of questions and hope that

1027
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 1: he lies or she lies about something. No. I've never

1028
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 1: seen anything like this in any way, shape or form.

1029
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 1: It is beyond appalling. You know, how are we to

1030
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 1: make of all that? I mean, you've got James come

1031
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 1: running around saying that the FBI, the FBI's reputational damage

1032
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 1: is the result of Fox News and Trump and Republicans

1033
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 1: who have no spine. Meanwhile, he acts like Andy McCabe,

1034
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 1: who was acting FBI director, wasn't fired for lying under

1035
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 1: oath several times according to the Inspector General report, which,

1036
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 1: as I understand it is also prosecutable. So you know,

1037
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 1: it's it's like we're living in a bizarre o land

1038
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 1: where no one's really keeping track of what's happened Sydney. Yeah,

1039
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 1: there are three federal felonies outline that should be indicted

1040
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 1: already in the special in the Inspector General's report, And

1041
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 1: I mean, why haven't they been indicted? I mean, this

1042
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 1: two tiered system of justice we have just it's an

1043
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 1: article that you that you wrote, and we're speaking to

1044
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 1: Sidney Powell, who's a former federal prosecutor and author of

1045
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 1: License to Lie. An article that you wrote, you know,

1046
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 1: got my attention. It's one of the reason why we

1047
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:56,919
Speaker 1: wanted to have you on the program. Although also saw

1048
01:00:56,960 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 1: you do some very good analysis on Fox and Friends

1049
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 1: that this notion that people don't lie about lying, rather

1050
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 1: than that when you're prosecuted by the federal government and say, okay,

1051
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna plead to a one zero, zero one charge,

1052
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 1: then you must be guilty, end of story, end of case.

1053
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 1: What's what's your as somebody who did this, It was

1054
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 1: involved in hundreds and hundreds of federal prosecutions. Well, what's

1055
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 1: the truth of this? Well it happens all the time now.

1056
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 1: I mean when I was a federal prosecutor, and I'm

1057
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 1: not going to mention how old I am, I could

1058
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:33,960
Speaker 1: probably be your mother. But you know, we did not

1059
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 1: do this. We always thought and I worked for nine

1060
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Speaker 1: different US attorneys from both political parties in three different

1061
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Speaker 1: districts across the country. I mean, every US attorney I

1062
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 1: work for said, listen, they're more than enough dangerous crimes

1063
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 1: out there. You don't need to be making anything up,

1064
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 1: and you don't need to go looking for something. You know,

1065
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 1: prosecute what we've got. We've got plenty. But the prosecutors, now,

1066
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Speaker 1: it's like the higher profile, a more higher profile person

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Speaker 1: they can take elm is the way they look at it.

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Speaker 1: You know, the higher the CEO or the CFO or

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Speaker 1: the general or whatever, the prouder they are of themselves,

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Speaker 1: and the bigger notch they get on their belt for

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Speaker 1: doing it. Well, that's not the way we worked at all.

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Speaker 1: So you have this whole different mindset of what a

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Speaker 1: prosecution is, and they pride themselves on seeing how many

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Speaker 1: crimes they can throw at people. So it leaves people

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Speaker 1: with no choice but to plead guilty, because the beating

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Speaker 1: they're taking by pleading guilty isn't as bad as the

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Speaker 1: beating they're going to take if they try to fight it.

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Speaker 1: Just look at the difference between General Flynn and Paul Manaford.

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Speaker 1: Paul Manafort just tried to reach out to a potential

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Speaker 1: witness that he didn't even know was on General Special

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Speaker 1: Counsel's witness list, and he finds himself in solitary confinement

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Speaker 1: and had all his assets frozen, so he can't hire counsel,

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Speaker 1: all his children's assets frozen, and see to do how's

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Speaker 1: he to fight? Yeah, I think that that's a that's

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Speaker 1: a part of this this story overall with the Special Council,

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01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 1: that people don't have enough of an appreciation of. I

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Speaker 1: know of somebody. I had a friend who was a

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Speaker 1: criminal defense attorney and he was involved in a very

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Speaker 1: very high profile case where somebody he just told me

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Speaker 1: straight up, He's like, look, this person pleaded guilty because

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Speaker 1: it was take the plea or go bankrupt and then

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Speaker 1: probably go to prison for three times as long as

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Speaker 1: you'll get if you don't take the plea, and he

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Speaker 1: just figured, I can't I can't win. They feel like

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Speaker 1: there's absolutely no way out and the only thing they

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Speaker 1: can do is plead guilty. And if that happens to

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Speaker 1: somebody in the position of General Flynn, imagine what they

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Speaker 1: do to poorer people who have no resources, no financial resources,

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Speaker 1: no community resources, no sterling career to hold up on

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Speaker 1: and point too, and you know they're just totally screwed.

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Speaker 1: Did you have an opinion on either the reputation or

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Speaker 1: just the ethics that you've seen from this special counsel

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Speaker 1: so far? But about some of the individuals involved specifically,

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Speaker 1: what do you think of or did you know of Mueller?

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01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 1: What do you think of or did you know of Weissman?

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01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 1: I mean the people that are running this, because you

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Speaker 1: are very conflicting things about this in the media. Oh well,

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Speaker 1: I mean this is easy. Andrew Weissman is the lead

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Speaker 1: villain in my book, License to Lie, and one of

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Speaker 1: only three ethics complaints I've ever filed in my life

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01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 1: as against Andrew Weissman and two of his colleagues in

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Speaker 1: License to Lie, And why was why do you fill

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Speaker 1: that out? At me? Tell people? I think people should

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Speaker 1: know about who this Weisman guy is, and from a

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Speaker 1: former federal prosecutor, you know, as well from somebody who

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Speaker 1: was ostensibly on the same team, so to speak. What

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Speaker 1: was Weisman doing? What do people need to know about

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Speaker 1: this guy? Muller's number two. Yeah, they literally made up crimes.

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Speaker 1: They destroyed Arthur Anderson, an eighty five thousand jobs, all

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Speaker 1: for nothing. The Supreme Court reverse rested in a unanimous

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Speaker 1: decision two years later, finding that they literally had not

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Speaker 1: charged the valid crime against Anderson, and the jury instructions

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01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 1: were so devoid of criminal intent that Justice Rnquist, writing

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Speaker 1: for the unanimous court, said, it was shocking how little

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Speaker 1: criminal intent the jury instructions required, so that anybody could

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Speaker 1: have been convicted the way they instructed the jury. And

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Speaker 1: then they made up a crime against four Merrill Lynch executives,

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Speaker 1: sent four Merrill Lynch executives to prison for a year

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Speaker 1: on an indictment that didn't stay to federal offense. While

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Speaker 1: they actually yellow highlighted the evidence they knew proved their

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Speaker 1: innocence and surgically exercised it from the meager summaries they

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01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:47,440
Speaker 1: gave the defense in preparation for the trial, and they

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01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 1: hid that evidence for six years. It was only by

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Speaker 1: accident that we discovered it when the third team of

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Speaker 1: prosecutors accidentally gave me the disc that had the yellow

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Speaker 1: highlighted information on it. And I think that's one part

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Speaker 1: of this that aside that people generally don't have an

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Speaker 1: appreciation of or they don't have an understanding of and

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Speaker 1: that is that even when prosecutors engage in egregious misconduct,

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Speaker 1: the sanctions against them, I mean, the real oversight is

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Speaker 1: pretty limited. Oh, absolutely nothing. Nothing happened to them. I

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Speaker 1: mean one of the cases in my book is the

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Speaker 1: Ted Stevens case, the senator from Alaska, whose Judge Sullivan

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Speaker 1: is the judicial hero of my book because he threw

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Speaker 1: out the conviction against Senator Ted Stevens for egregious government misconduct,

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01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:40,400
Speaker 1: hiding evidence that showed he was innocent, and it costs

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Speaker 1: the Alaska the state of Alaska, their Senate seat, changed

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Speaker 1: the balance of power in the United States Senate. What

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Speaker 1: happened to those prosecutors? Nothing? And the first Department of

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Speaker 1: Justice by that time, it's astonishing, And by that was

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Speaker 1: a vote that was necessary to get Obamacare through, if

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Speaker 1: memory serves exactly. Yeah, So you know, what do you

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01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 1: do about the team? I mean, one of them got

1154
01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 1: a thirty day suspension, but neither of them served it.

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01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:13,000
Speaker 1: One served a one day suspension. What can we do?

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Speaker 1: It feels like there is a two tier justice system.

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01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:20,080
Speaker 1: It feels like somehow the left and the statists and

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01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 1: the progressives have managed to take over some of the court,

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Speaker 1: or maybe they just use the corridors and the levers

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Speaker 1: of power differently than than people who are constitutionalists and

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Speaker 1: people on the right view. But you know, I can't

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Speaker 1: find any prominent left wing pro Hillary pro Obama folks

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Speaker 1: who get the same kind of treatment from the federal

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Speaker 1: from the federal prosecutors offices. No, there isn't one that

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Speaker 1: I know of. Ever, we've got to we've got to

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Speaker 1: curb the power of federal prosecutors in general. They just

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Speaker 1: have way too much power, and they have absolute immunity.

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Speaker 1: They can send an innocent person to prison for the

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Speaker 1: rest of their lives knowing they're completely innocent, and not

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Speaker 1: a single thing happens to him. That's just that's stunning. Well,

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Speaker 1: the book that I can recommend everybody check out is

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Speaker 1: License to Lie, author Sidney Powe, former federal prosecutor. Sidney,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us on the show,

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Speaker 1: and we'd be honored to have you back sometime. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: Buck anytime at all. I really appreciate the work that

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Speaker 1: you do. All right, team, rolling into a quick break,

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Speaker 1: we'll be right back. What impact does it have when

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Speaker 1: the president calls Michael Cohen a rat some of who's

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Speaker 1: cooperating with an investigation and questions how his office was

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Speaker 1: rated by the FBI. It undermines the rule of law.

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Speaker 1: This is the President of the United States calling a

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Speaker 1: witness who has cooperated with his own Justice Department a wret.

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Speaker 1: Say that again to yourself at home and remind yourself

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Speaker 1: where we have ended up. This is not about Republicans

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Speaker 1: and Democrats. This is about what does it mean to

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Speaker 1: be an American? What are the things that we care

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Speaker 1: about above our policy disputes which are important. There's a

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Speaker 1: set of values that represents the glue of this country

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Speaker 1: and they are under attacked by things just like that.

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Speaker 1: We have to stop being numb to it. Whether you're

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01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:09,840
Speaker 1: Republican or Democrat, you need to stand on your feet,

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01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 1: overcome your shame and say something. Oh the sanctimony from

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Speaker 1: sanc to Coomy. It continues on every time this guy

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Speaker 1: gets a chance. It's always about America and fundamental decency

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Speaker 1: and our values. Meanwhile, was it about fundamental decency for

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Speaker 1: him to try to take down a president with leaks

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Speaker 1: to a newspaper about a private conversation. Yet with the

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Speaker 1: President the United States and the Oval Office, I'm just

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Speaker 1: wondering is that was that about fundamental decency? Anyone any

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Speaker 1: want to get into that one? Oh? What about leaking

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01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:45,800
Speaker 1: classified documents? Would that would that be? Or even just

1202
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 1: sensitive documents? What about the lack of honor that Comy

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01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:52,120
Speaker 1: displayed forget about the law for a moment, just the

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01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:55,880
Speaker 1: lack of honor as a person where he would, as

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Speaker 1: a senior government official, sit down with the President the

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Speaker 1: United States and for purely personal gain and out of spite,

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01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:07,840
Speaker 1: leak the details of a conversation to the media. Jam

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Speaker 1: off the President United States as if he doesn't have

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01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 1: more important things to do, then suffer to play Kate

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Speaker 1: Komey's massive six foot eleven and change ego when it

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01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:22,519
Speaker 1: comes to league and classified documents. Coomey, who's down on

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Speaker 1: Capitol Hill? And look, he loves all the attention. He

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Speaker 1: loves all of this. Komey didn't really want to talk

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Speaker 1: about that when Katherine Herridger Fox News asked him play.

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Speaker 1: Look four. My understanding is that when you shared your

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Speaker 1: memos with your legal team, that there was a follow

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Speaker 1: up for a classified containment operation by the Bureau. Was

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Speaker 1: there a spill of classified information when you shared those memos? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna talk about something like that. Wanted to

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Speaker 1: talk about whether classified information was I'm not gonna talk

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Speaker 1: about it one way or another. Woo Coomey got a

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01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:59,360
Speaker 1: little didn't like that. One didn't like all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: he's not the tall guy in the room. All of

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01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:05,960
Speaker 1: a sudden, he's not so into, you know, being America's

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01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:10,439
Speaker 1: lecturer in chief here a post formally held by Barack Obama.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I love to lecture the American people,

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Speaker 1: but you know, Comy loves to lecture the American people too.

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Speaker 1: And then you know, there's just so much here that

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Speaker 1: when you look at it, I mean, Comy is is

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Speaker 1: symptomatic or he is a symptom of the broader problem,

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01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:31,960
Speaker 1: which is the establishment hated Trump. They still hate Trump.

1232
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Speaker 1: And look, there's a lot of reason to criticize Trump.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of stuff about him that you could

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01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:39,479
Speaker 1: pick on that's completely legitimate. But at the end of

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Speaker 1: the day, he saved us from Hillary. What he accomplished

1236
01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:49,240
Speaker 1: politically is just short of a miracle. And there's finally

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01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:52,920
Speaker 1: a person who's in the Oval office, A finally person

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Speaker 1: who's the head of the executive branch of our government

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Speaker 1: who's willing to talk about issues that you weren't supposed

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01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 1: to talk about it till now. I mean, we're having

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Speaker 1: the discussion we're having on immigration. As much as I'm

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Speaker 1: frustrated about it, as much as i worry that Trump's

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01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:08,759
Speaker 1: not going to be able to follow through on his promise,

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying he hasn't, under saying I'm worried. At

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01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:17,799
Speaker 1: least we can discuss whether we want continued, constant illegal

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01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:22,280
Speaker 1: immigration just flowing into the country and really talk about

1247
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Speaker 1: what the costs are to this country. Talk about the

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01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:29,640
Speaker 1: cost in dollar figures, in in lives due to the

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01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:33,759
Speaker 1: cartels and the opioids that are just flooding into this country.

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Speaker 1: That's the only conversation now we can have because of Trump.

1251
01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:40,439
Speaker 1: But the left and the Democrats and the statusts all

1252
01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:45,200
Speaker 1: working together here view him, view Trump and the ideas

1253
01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 1: that he represents, put aside the manphisic and the ideas

1254
01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:52,360
Speaker 1: that he represents. Like that though the working, normal, everyday

1255
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:55,960
Speaker 1: American is getting a raw deal from his government. Now

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01:12:57,280 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 1: that the elite that the establishment aren't nearly as brilliant

1257
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:03,120
Speaker 1: and wonderful as they would love to make, all the

1258
01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 1: rest of us believe that their privileged positions do not

1259
01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:12,240
Speaker 1: come from being superior to us in skill, in acumen, inability,

1260
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 1: but because of connections and playing the system and exploiting

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01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:21,840
Speaker 1: their own levers to get to where they are, whether

1262
01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:24,720
Speaker 1: it's in government or outside of it. All of that

1263
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:27,320
Speaker 1: is very threatening to these people, which is why you

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01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:33,759
Speaker 1: had the establishment within the government working together to defeat

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Speaker 1: and then destroy Trump when they couldn't defeat him, and

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Speaker 1: that's why win. For example, he gets asked, why didn't

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Speaker 1: he tell Sally Yates, who was the acting Attorney General?

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Speaker 1: Why not tell Sally Yates about what was coming up

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Speaker 1: here with this interview with Flynn. Here's what he said,

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Speaker 1: Play clip three. You didn't tell Sally Yates about this

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Speaker 1: interview with Michael Flynn. The FBI was conducted until the

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Speaker 1: day of Why did you wait until the day of

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Speaker 1: Saliates about that investigation? The days I have interview because

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01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:08,080
Speaker 1: I knew that if anything came of the interview, if

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Speaker 1: it advanced our investigation, the attack from the Trump administration

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Speaker 1: would be that an Obama holdover it intineered it, and

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Speaker 1: so I had to make the decisions separate from her,

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01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:19,080
Speaker 1: to leave them with their only opportunity to challenge it

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01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:21,600
Speaker 1: would be to burn down the entire FBI. To my

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01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:24,320
Speaker 1: shock and horror, they've tried to do just that in

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01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:28,400
Speaker 1: the face of silence from people in this building. So Coomy,

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01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:31,599
Speaker 1: McCabe and struck they are the FBI or were they

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01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:35,439
Speaker 1: employees of the FBI. I noticed the sensitivity about an

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01:14:35,439 --> 01:14:39,439
Speaker 1: Obama holdover Sally Yates engineering this because they knew that

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01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:43,120
Speaker 1: was a real thing. We got more on sactic comy

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01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:44,760
Speaker 1: coming up here at a moment. Team stay with me.

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Speaker 1: I think the last person that we're going to take

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Speaker 1: any lecture from about the values of this country is

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Speaker 1: from a self admitted liar and leaker that we know

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Speaker 1: James Comey to be. There's no doubt that he did

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Speaker 1: a tremendous number of things wrong and brought out age's

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Speaker 1: corruption to the FBI. He led it with a political

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01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:06,240
Speaker 1: bias that is unheard of at an agency like that,

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01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 1: and so he'll be the last person that we're going

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01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:10,280
Speaker 1: to take any type of lecture from. What we know

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01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:12,920
Speaker 1: is that we're fighting every single day to make America

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Speaker 1: better for the people of this country. It's why the

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01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:17,680
Speaker 1: President is so focused on making sure we have a

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Speaker 1: strong economy, getting good trade deals, defeating isis, remaking the judiciary,

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01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:25,599
Speaker 1: and fighting for border security like we were seeing him

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01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:28,000
Speaker 1: do this week, like you've seen him do every day

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01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:30,960
Speaker 1: since he took office. This is a president who's fully

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01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 1: committed to supporting and reflecting the values of the American people.

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01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:41,000
Speaker 1: And we certainly won't be lectured by Sarah huckeby Sanders

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01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:44,200
Speaker 1: breathing fire in James Collmey's direction, I gotta tell you,

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01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:47,599
Speaker 1: I liked it. I like I've callmy is the worst.

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01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:50,439
Speaker 1: I mean, call me is the guy who reminds me

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01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:53,040
Speaker 1: of the people that I had to always be concerned

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01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:57,320
Speaker 1: about in the CIA and the intelligence community, the kind

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01:15:57,360 --> 01:16:00,280
Speaker 1: of people who would throw you under the bus just

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01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:02,960
Speaker 1: to show that they were doing their job and feel

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01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:07,160
Speaker 1: and feel so self righteous about it and never stop

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01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:10,640
Speaker 1: to think, is this really fair? Is this important? Is

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01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:14,800
Speaker 1: this a full reflection of this person's contributions to, you know,

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01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:20,679
Speaker 1: to the fight to defending this country. Someone like James

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01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:23,200
Speaker 1: Comey just because the rules are the rules until the

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01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:25,320
Speaker 1: people that he wants to impress get in trouble, and

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01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:26,920
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, if it's Hillary Clinton, the

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01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:29,360
Speaker 1: rules aren't the rules. Anymore, then the rules have got

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01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:33,840
Speaker 1: a change. These people are very dangerous. Remember, tyranny is

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01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:40,160
Speaker 1: not the draconian application of law to everyone. A real

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01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:45,040
Speaker 1: tyranny is the capricious application of the law based upon

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01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:48,599
Speaker 1: whether somebody is part of the in group or not,

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01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:54,040
Speaker 1: part of the favored sector or not. Because if everyone

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01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:58,280
Speaker 1: has to live under our totalitarian but draconian rather laws,

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01:16:58,280 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 1: and everyone has to live under the very strict, various

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01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:03,000
Speaker 1: your laws, at least you know what to expect. But

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01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:06,360
Speaker 1: James Coomey's FBI is if you're a very prominent political

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01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:09,360
Speaker 1: figure and you're a conservative, you know you're getting a

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01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:11,960
Speaker 1: different treatment. And it also comes from you know, these

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01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:14,599
Speaker 1: guys are all humans too, right, They're all they all

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01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:17,679
Speaker 1: have egos. They want the glowing treatment of the media.

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01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 1: They want to be written about the New York Times

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01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:23,720
Speaker 1: for being you know, America's last honest copper. You know, whatever, right,

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01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:26,360
Speaker 1: they love all that stuff. You know, Komy loves it.

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01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:30,840
Speaker 1: And you know that Komy likes this moment that he

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01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:33,080
Speaker 1: has in the spotlight after all the damage that he's

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01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 1: done to the FBI. And I know FBI folks who

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01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:38,800
Speaker 1: will say that, I mean, James Comey's is a disgrace,

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01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:43,160
Speaker 1: a disgrace. And I can tell you if somebody who

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01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:46,400
Speaker 1: worked the CIA, Mike Hayden and John Brennan, they've disgraced

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01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:49,280
Speaker 1: the CIA with what they've done, particularly Brennan. I mean, Hayden,

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01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:52,880
Speaker 1: I don't know what. I still am shocked at some

1344
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 1: of the stuff that he said, but part of me

1345
01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:57,400
Speaker 1: just doesn't want to believe that. It's I don't know.

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01:17:57,439 --> 01:17:58,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I work for my guy, I just have.

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01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:04,680
Speaker 1: But Brennan. Brennan is office rocker and really dangerous and

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01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:09,519
Speaker 1: wacko guy when it comes to the conversation in this

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01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:13,120
Speaker 1: country about the rule of law and the intelligence community.

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01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:16,600
Speaker 1: I mean, he's really bad news. But you know, Kobe

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01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:19,080
Speaker 1: really likes to just just give this this constant lecture.

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01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 1: It's all about America and the foundation of our ethics

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01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 1: and values, and it's it's not about being partisan, but

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01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:27,880
Speaker 1: it is about being partisan with James Coom. That's the problem.

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01:18:28,400 --> 01:18:34,040
Speaker 1: Play clip five. People who know better, including Republican members

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01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:36,960
Speaker 1: of this body, have to have the courage to stand

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01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:41,200
Speaker 1: up and speak the truth, not be cowed by mean

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01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:43,840
Speaker 1: tweets or fear of their base. There is a truth

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01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:46,640
Speaker 1: and they're not telling it. Their silence is shameful. The

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01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:49,920
Speaker 1: top Republicans who are remaining in the House Sex session,

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01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:53,439
Speaker 1: do you see any chaking that mantle coming up and

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01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:57,200
Speaker 1: defending the MBI taking on the president. Not yet to

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01:18:57,320 --> 01:18:59,839
Speaker 1: my view, to their everlasting shame. I hope they'll overcome

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01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:02,560
Speaker 1: to realize someday they got to explained to their grandchildren

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01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:10,280
Speaker 1: what they did today. No sank to Komey. No one's

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01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:12,519
Speaker 1: gonna have to explain to their grandchild. No one's gonna care.

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01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:15,120
Speaker 1: All right, you're you're you're not the most You're not

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01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:18,639
Speaker 1: the center of this of this national drama that's going

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01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 1: to be you know, written about and and be the

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01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:25,840
Speaker 1: story that everybody tells their kids for future generations. No,

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01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:28,679
Speaker 1: it just it's a petty bureaucrat with too much power,

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01:19:28,840 --> 01:19:35,919
Speaker 1: too much self absorption, and no no ability to self reflect.

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01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:39,120
Speaker 1: I mean, just this guy is scary in that regard.

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01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:43,120
Speaker 1: Such a false humility, and false humility is the scariest

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01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:49,720
Speaker 1: kind coming from this guy. It's really distressing. Um, you know,

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01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:55,200
Speaker 1: Bob Goodlatt is asking some very important questions about all this.

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01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:58,240
Speaker 1: Here's Bob Goodlett on Kobe and the Special counsel on

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01:19:58,280 --> 01:20:01,479
Speaker 1: how all this has gone down Play seven. It's also

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01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:05,600
Speaker 1: very interesting that when Loretta Lynch told mister Komey to

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01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:10,519
Speaker 1: treat the Clinton investigation as a matter, he didn't seek

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01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:15,840
Speaker 1: a special counsel. And when Loretta Lynch met with President

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01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:20,000
Speaker 1: Bill Clinton on the tarmac right before the announcement was

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01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:23,439
Speaker 1: made regarding that investigation, he didn't seek a special counsel,

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01:20:23,479 --> 01:20:26,680
Speaker 1: although he claims he thought about one. But when he

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01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:30,800
Speaker 1: was fired, that's when he engaged in leaking documents in

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01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:35,280
Speaker 1: order to get a special counsel appointed. And based on

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01:20:35,439 --> 01:20:38,360
Speaker 1: now that we have, near the end of this investigation,

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01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:43,519
Speaker 1: based upon, in my opinion, very false premises, good Lad

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01:20:43,640 --> 01:20:47,280
Speaker 1: raises something very interesting here about Komey. That is that

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01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:50,640
Speaker 1: there is a clear he had a clear willingness to

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01:20:52,040 --> 01:20:55,280
Speaker 1: keep it under the vest, keep things quiet, keep it

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01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:57,160
Speaker 1: on the down low, as long as he was doing

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01:20:57,200 --> 01:21:00,200
Speaker 1: going to be FBI director. As long as James he

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01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:04,200
Speaker 1: gets what he wants, we don't have to worry about

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01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:07,320
Speaker 1: the constitution and the foundation of this country and the

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01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:10,360
Speaker 1: ethics and the morals of George Washington and Ben Franklin

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01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:13,680
Speaker 1: and blobde blobdy blah. As long as James Comy gets

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01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:15,800
Speaker 1: to stay as FBI director. None of that seems to matter.

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01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:18,800
Speaker 1: It's what Comy loses his job that all of a

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01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:22,400
Speaker 1: sudden he goes scorched earth. Oh isn't that interesting when

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01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:26,559
Speaker 1: Comy would have to return to private life and get

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01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:30,080
Speaker 1: paid seven figures again, I mean, he was paid a

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01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:34,200
Speaker 1: million dollars a year plus from what I understand to

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01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:37,800
Speaker 1: be an advisor at a hedge fund in Connecticut. And

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01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:39,640
Speaker 1: it just so happened that that hedge fund was one

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01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:43,559
Speaker 1: of the very few that Coomy's mentee, pre Berarra didn't

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01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:49,200
Speaker 1: go after with a vengeance looking for insider trading. Isn't

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01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:52,680
Speaker 1: that's a very good investment. I gotta say that for

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01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:55,320
Speaker 1: that edge fund, very good, very good to have Comey

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01:21:55,360 --> 01:21:58,080
Speaker 1: as an advisor on your saff advising on what exactly,

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01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:03,120
Speaker 1: Oh don't ask not supposed to ask you, Comy. Coomey's

1412
01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:06,040
Speaker 1: not for sale. You know one one thing I forgot.

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01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:09,519
Speaker 1: I keep bringing up that that Scooter Libby the other

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01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:14,200
Speaker 1: Special Council debacle, another Republican administration, Democrats trying to make

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01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:16,840
Speaker 1: that seem like, oh my gosh, treason and as terrible

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01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:20,639
Speaker 1: was all crap, all garbage. They're just trying to destroy

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01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:23,360
Speaker 1: a good man because they're angry about Bush and they're

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01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:26,080
Speaker 1: angry about, you know, losing the election and the fact

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01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:30,400
Speaker 1: that they have to run some some slomial like John Kerry.

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01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:36,360
Speaker 1: You know, they they ran with this thing with the

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01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:39,599
Speaker 1: Scooter Libby, but it was based on it was just

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01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:42,000
Speaker 1: based on spite that they went after him. But you

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01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:45,599
Speaker 1: know Fitzgerald, who was also Comey's lawyer right now, he

1424
01:22:45,640 --> 01:22:47,519
Speaker 1: was the one who went after Conrad black On on

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01:22:47,680 --> 01:22:52,080
Speaker 1: his services fraud. That's the thing we keep being told,

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01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:54,280
Speaker 1: which I would know got overturned by the Supreme Court.

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01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:58,400
Speaker 1: You know, we keep being told that you gotta trust

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01:22:58,439 --> 01:23:02,040
Speaker 1: these guys. This is the system. They're professionals. And then

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01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:04,839
Speaker 1: when you look at the really big cases, the cases

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01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:14,560
Speaker 1: that matter, Republicans get treated terribly and there's no corollary

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01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:17,519
Speaker 1: on the other side. There's there's no equivalent. You know,

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01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:23,760
Speaker 1: there's no Democrats who are getting destroyed based on prosecutorial

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01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:28,840
Speaker 1: zeal and I think that that's noteworthy. And you know,

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01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:30,639
Speaker 1: also I think it's not worthy that Comy doesn't really

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01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:34,200
Speaker 1: want to answer certain questions. Bob Goodlatt brought that one

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01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:37,479
Speaker 1: up play six the year and a half after James

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01:23:37,520 --> 01:23:41,599
Speaker 1: Comy was fired, he's still playing games with the Congress

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01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:45,760
Speaker 1: over this issue. We've interviewed fourteen other witnesses, all of

1439
01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:49,479
Speaker 1: whom who had security clearances but lost them when they

1440
01:23:49,479 --> 01:23:52,479
Speaker 1: were fired, went and got them back on a temporary basis.

1441
01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:55,320
Speaker 1: James Comy refused to do that. So if you read

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01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:57,880
Speaker 1: the transcript, you'll note a number of times when he's

1443
01:23:57,880 --> 01:24:00,720
Speaker 1: asked about it matter, he said, well, that's classified. And

1444
01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:03,479
Speaker 1: the point is, even if we had moved the interview

1445
01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:06,599
Speaker 1: into a classified setting, he still would not have been

1446
01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:08,920
Speaker 1: able to answer the questions that he knew the answers

1447
01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:12,400
Speaker 1: to because they were classified and he didn't have clearance

1448
01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:14,760
Speaker 1: to talk about them. That's the kind of things we've

1449
01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:18,679
Speaker 1: had to put up with, mister Komy. You know, we're

1450
01:24:18,720 --> 01:24:20,840
Speaker 1: never really going to get a lot of these answers. Unfortunately.

1451
01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:22,120
Speaker 1: I hate to be the one I to tell you that,

1452
01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:24,679
Speaker 1: just like I was telling people right after Romney lost

1453
01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:27,080
Speaker 1: to Obama, you're never going to see justice for what

1454
01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:29,520
Speaker 1: happened in Benghazi. No one's really going to be held accountable.

1455
01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:32,519
Speaker 1: That was right. I don't know if we're ever going

1456
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:34,559
Speaker 1: to get all these answers. Very frustrating. I wish it

1457
01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:35,640
Speaker 1: wasn't the case. I don't know if we're ever going

1458
01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:38,040
Speaker 1: to get these answers, because the fix is in the

1459
01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:40,840
Speaker 1: people who make these determinations about the information, who make

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01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:44,200
Speaker 1: the determinations about who gets prosecuted, who gets let go,

1461
01:24:44,479 --> 01:24:49,559
Speaker 1: who gets the second chance, who gets crushed. They are

1462
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:53,439
Speaker 1: of the left. Now, they're not all hardcore progressives, but

1463
01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:58,479
Speaker 1: they're Democrats. They opposed the Republican Party, and they, unlike

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01:24:58,600 --> 01:25:01,439
Speaker 1: many of their Republican counterpart arts adj and the federal

1465
01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:04,280
Speaker 1: judiciary and elsewhere, are not willing to abuse their power

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01:25:04,280 --> 01:25:08,240
Speaker 1: in the same way. There is not an equivalency here

1467
01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:11,320
Speaker 1: between the left and the right. It's unfortunate, but this

1468
01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:14,240
Speaker 1: is the world we're living in now. The left is

1469
01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:16,760
Speaker 1: weaponizing the law that's happening right before our very eyes,

1470
01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:19,040
Speaker 1: and it's gotten a lot of help from some folks

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01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:22,800
Speaker 1: in the deep state. I want to share some titles

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01:25:22,920 --> 01:25:26,240
Speaker 1: with you from a couple left wing publications about something

1473
01:25:26,240 --> 01:25:31,480
Speaker 1: that happened recently that touches on the double standard whenever

1474
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:35,960
Speaker 1: issues of the trans or LGBT community are involved and

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01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:39,080
Speaker 1: the media is covering it all right, This one from

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01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:44,880
Speaker 1: the Daily Beast quote RuPaul loves drag kid Desmond, you

1477
01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:50,120
Speaker 1: will too fiercely. Back in June, The Today Show promoted

1478
01:25:50,360 --> 01:25:55,120
Speaker 1: this same individual quote, Meet the ten year old drag

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01:25:55,240 --> 01:26:02,280
Speaker 1: kid taking over social media with an inspiring message quote,

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01:26:02,280 --> 01:26:04,519
Speaker 1: it really is amazing being in the spotlight because I

1481
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:07,000
Speaker 1: get so much support and I'm an inspiration to so

1482
01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:10,280
Speaker 1: many people, which is one of my number one goals,

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01:26:10,479 --> 01:26:13,479
Speaker 1: Desmond told The Daily Beast. I like all the fame

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Speaker 1: and helping the LGB community fight for our rights. This

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01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:23,640
Speaker 1: is about an eleven year old boy, and I have

1486
01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:26,559
Speaker 1: to hat tip the fine writing over at the Daily

1487
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:31,720
Speaker 1: Wire for finding this piece. Amanda pressed to Jacomo is

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01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:36,920
Speaker 1: the one who gets the byeline here. Just about a

1489
01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:42,240
Speaker 1: week ago in eleven year old Boy eleven folks in

1490
01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:46,639
Speaker 1: New York in a Brooklyn gay bar called three Dollar Bill,

1491
01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:50,799
Speaker 1: an eleven year old boy was put on stage dressed

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01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:54,320
Speaker 1: as a as a female, I mean dressed as an

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01:26:54,560 --> 01:26:57,240
Speaker 1: I guess as a woman or as a girl, and

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01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:03,040
Speaker 1: they try to make him a Gwen Stefani lookalike in

1495
01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:07,960
Speaker 1: full drag makeup, a blonde wig and a crop top

1496
01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:14,000
Speaker 1: as he danced on stage to a no doubt song

1497
01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:19,680
Speaker 1: and collected dollar bills from adult males who were at

1498
01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:23,960
Speaker 1: the club viewing this. Now, I would just want to

1499
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:29,160
Speaker 1: point out that if an eleven year old girl showed

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01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:32,599
Speaker 1: up at a just a a I guess a straight

1501
01:27:32,640 --> 01:27:37,240
Speaker 1: bar or just a standard bar and was gyrating on

1502
01:27:37,280 --> 01:27:42,520
Speaker 1: a stage eleven years old folks gyrating on a stage

1503
01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:48,880
Speaker 1: for the amusement and whatever, you know, just for the

1504
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:52,240
Speaker 1: viewing pleasure, I don't even know what to say of

1505
01:27:52,320 --> 01:27:59,280
Speaker 1: a bunch of adult males. People would rightly be completely horrified,

1506
01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:04,360
Speaker 1: They would be outraged. There might even be I don't

1507
01:28:04,360 --> 01:28:06,639
Speaker 1: know that they probably would be arrests made for endangering

1508
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:09,120
Speaker 1: the welfare of a child. There might it might even

1509
01:28:09,120 --> 01:28:13,080
Speaker 1: fall under some kind of visual exploitation statute. I don't know.

1510
01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:17,000
Speaker 1: I just know that this would never be okay. And

1511
01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:22,559
Speaker 1: if a bunch of friends of mine, heterosexual friends of mine,

1512
01:28:22,600 --> 01:28:24,680
Speaker 1: peers of mine, said, yeah, you know, we're at the

1513
01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:27,360
Speaker 1: bar last night, and they had an eleven year old

1514
01:28:27,439 --> 01:28:31,640
Speaker 1: girl in a crop top dancing on stage while adults

1515
01:28:31,800 --> 01:28:38,200
Speaker 1: threw money at her, I would probably call the police

1516
01:28:38,200 --> 01:28:40,680
Speaker 1: without even necessarily knowing what the crime is that I

1517
01:28:40,680 --> 01:28:42,160
Speaker 1: would want them to be arrest of woe. I would

1518
01:28:42,200 --> 01:28:45,320
Speaker 1: just I would just freak out. And what I guess

1519
01:28:45,439 --> 01:28:49,599
Speaker 1: isn't really surprising or shouldn't be surprising, is that I

1520
01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:54,479
Speaker 1: was seeing I was seeing blue check journos today, you know,

1521
01:28:54,720 --> 01:29:01,040
Speaker 1: left wing, progressive activist journalist types who were defending this.

1522
01:29:02,200 --> 01:29:06,280
Speaker 1: And I'm sorry, but but there's an obvious double standard

1523
01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:11,080
Speaker 1: that exists in the way the media views LGBTQ and

1524
01:29:11,240 --> 01:29:16,360
Speaker 1: transgender issues when it comes to exploitation and what would

1525
01:29:16,360 --> 01:29:21,560
Speaker 1: fall under you know, exploitation in a in a heterosexual context.

1526
01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:27,120
Speaker 1: I mean, to have a sexualized eleven year old dancing

1527
01:29:27,160 --> 01:29:33,560
Speaker 1: on stage is at a minimum morally abhorrent, and it

1528
01:29:33,680 --> 01:29:36,800
Speaker 1: may also be something that that violates certain statutes. I mean,

1529
01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:38,479
Speaker 1: once you get into some of the some of the

1530
01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:42,360
Speaker 1: law that exists I think people are you know, generally

1531
01:29:42,439 --> 01:29:45,960
Speaker 1: doesn't come up because you just obviously, you know, there's

1532
01:29:46,000 --> 01:29:48,439
Speaker 1: so many of these laws and unless you're somebody that's

1533
01:29:48,520 --> 01:29:52,760
Speaker 1: violating them, you tend not to think about this. But this,

1534
01:29:53,080 --> 01:29:55,439
Speaker 1: whenever it comes to any kind of exploitation of a child,

1535
01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:58,160
Speaker 1: I mean, the laws are incredibly strict, as they should be,

1536
01:29:59,000 --> 01:30:02,240
Speaker 1: and it covers a lot more than actual you know,

1537
01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:04,720
Speaker 1: physical touching. Or any kind of physical abuse. There's a

1538
01:30:04,720 --> 01:30:07,720
Speaker 1: lot more that is swept up into those laws, and

1539
01:30:09,160 --> 01:30:11,639
Speaker 1: I was just amazed to see how many people were

1540
01:30:11,680 --> 01:30:13,600
Speaker 1: trying to say that this is I mean, look, the

1541
01:30:13,640 --> 01:30:16,559
Speaker 1: Daily Beast was writing pieces of selling media is celebrating this.

1542
01:30:17,439 --> 01:30:20,439
Speaker 1: They're celebrating an eleven year old who was being dressed

1543
01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:24,960
Speaker 1: up and danced on stage for the amusement of gay

1544
01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:28,360
Speaker 1: men at a gay bar. And this is supposed to

1545
01:30:28,400 --> 01:30:32,200
Speaker 1: be normal, And okay, why why would anyone think that?

1546
01:30:34,400 --> 01:30:38,040
Speaker 1: But you know, this is also then this goes to

1547
01:30:38,160 --> 01:30:43,880
Speaker 1: the the over zealousness with which some people are trying

1548
01:30:43,920 --> 01:30:49,560
Speaker 1: to turn every issue that affects the LGBT community into

1549
01:30:50,160 --> 01:30:54,280
Speaker 1: a kind of a crusade. Right, they have lost all

1550
01:30:54,280 --> 01:30:56,320
Speaker 1: sense of objectivity. I mean, this is also what you

1551
01:30:56,360 --> 01:31:02,240
Speaker 1: see with people who are advocating for eleven, twelfth, thirteen

1552
01:31:02,320 --> 01:31:06,720
Speaker 1: year olds to start transgender, you know, procedure procedures. I

1553
01:31:06,760 --> 01:31:09,720
Speaker 1: would just start taking you know, hormones at a very

1554
01:31:09,960 --> 01:31:14,920
Speaker 1: young age to start you know, the the sex change

1555
01:31:14,960 --> 01:31:17,639
Speaker 1: operation before they're even eighteen. I mean, this is just

1556
01:31:18,520 --> 01:31:20,519
Speaker 1: no normal person would think this. But then again, you know,

1557
01:31:20,560 --> 01:31:24,400
Speaker 1: we had we had the miss or whatever. It does

1558
01:31:24,439 --> 01:31:27,800
Speaker 1: not Miss USA, but the Miss World pageant and there

1559
01:31:27,920 --> 01:31:31,960
Speaker 1: was a transgender contestant and a female beauty pageant, and

1560
01:31:32,520 --> 01:31:34,760
Speaker 1: we're supposed to think. I mean, you know, they're telling me,

1561
01:31:34,800 --> 01:31:38,000
Speaker 1: as a heterosexual male, that if I think it's bizarre

1562
01:31:38,200 --> 01:31:41,840
Speaker 1: and highly unattractive for a man to present as a

1563
01:31:41,920 --> 01:31:45,639
Speaker 1: woman because I am only attracted to women, there's something

1564
01:31:46,520 --> 01:31:50,160
Speaker 1: close minded about that. There's some kind of bigotry involved,

1565
01:31:50,360 --> 01:31:53,479
Speaker 1: because they really live in this fantasy world. They think

1566
01:31:53,479 --> 01:31:56,720
Speaker 1: that there's like magic that's happening here where a man

1567
01:31:56,800 --> 01:31:59,479
Speaker 1: can become a woman, and therefore men who are attracted

1568
01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:02,960
Speaker 1: to women should be attracted to a transgender woman. Right.

1569
01:32:03,760 --> 01:32:05,840
Speaker 1: If you're not, they think there's something strange about you.

1570
01:32:06,760 --> 01:32:10,200
Speaker 1: This is crazy, This whole thing is nuts, and that

1571
01:32:10,280 --> 01:32:15,400
Speaker 1: they're even unable to see how it could affect children

1572
01:32:15,960 --> 01:32:18,640
Speaker 1: and the abuse that is inherent in this kind of

1573
01:32:18,640 --> 01:32:20,519
Speaker 1: a thing. I mean, the idea that you would let

1574
01:32:20,560 --> 01:32:23,839
Speaker 1: eleven year old in any context dance in a sexual

1575
01:32:23,880 --> 01:32:29,280
Speaker 1: fashion for the amusement of adult adult anybody is horrifying.

1576
01:32:30,200 --> 01:32:37,240
Speaker 1: But this is how depraved the Left has become. They're fine,

1577
01:32:37,280 --> 01:32:40,640
Speaker 1: We're really starting to see the length they're willing to

1578
01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:43,280
Speaker 1: go to on this and just what they're willing to sacrifice,

1579
01:32:43,320 --> 01:32:47,240
Speaker 1: and any decency, any integrity, any honor that can be

1580
01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:53,120
Speaker 1: sacrificed to the LGBTQ trans crusade, including what it involves children.

1581
01:32:53,880 --> 01:32:59,000
Speaker 1: Row called Tom everybody. Man, I can't believe it's already

1582
01:32:59,080 --> 01:33:02,840
Speaker 1: almost when day, or as somebody said to me, it

1583
01:33:03,040 --> 01:33:08,920
Speaker 1: is halfway to hump Day, which is halfway to Friday. Yes,

1584
01:33:09,320 --> 01:33:12,519
Speaker 1: that is that is technically a true thing that was

1585
01:33:12,600 --> 01:33:16,160
Speaker 1: said to me. So we're getting their team almost there

1586
01:33:16,240 --> 01:33:21,439
Speaker 1: for the holiday, almost ready to rock out and forget

1587
01:33:21,479 --> 01:33:24,559
Speaker 1: all of our troubles with some delicious egg nog. Perhaps

1588
01:33:25,120 --> 01:33:27,320
Speaker 1: I know that my family we do we do ham

1589
01:33:27,400 --> 01:33:30,759
Speaker 1: on Christmas. We go big with the roast. That honey

1590
01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:36,080
Speaker 1: glaze roast ham m good. Before I get into roll call,

1591
01:33:36,280 --> 01:33:40,440
Speaker 1: I just I gotta say something about this. I sometimes

1592
01:33:40,760 --> 01:33:46,599
Speaker 1: have this, uh, this feeling that social media is going

1593
01:33:46,640 --> 01:33:50,320
Speaker 1: to destroy humankind. I mean just meaning that social media

1594
01:33:50,560 --> 01:33:54,120
Speaker 1: can be away from the worst people in society to

1595
01:33:54,160 --> 01:33:58,000
Speaker 1: get attention for themselves everything else. And this weekend I

1596
01:33:58,360 --> 01:34:02,760
Speaker 1: managed to cook a steak for Miss Molly and me

1597
01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:05,800
Speaker 1: that I and she would agree. And she's a very

1598
01:34:05,800 --> 01:34:08,760
Speaker 1: good cook and she can be a tough critic. I

1599
01:34:08,800 --> 01:34:13,919
Speaker 1: think even she would agree that the steak was basically perfect.

1600
01:34:14,040 --> 01:34:17,280
Speaker 1: I mean it was really really well done. It was

1601
01:34:17,320 --> 01:34:21,120
Speaker 1: a boning RIBI so it was a tomahawk, and man,

1602
01:34:21,280 --> 01:34:25,040
Speaker 1: I seared that guy and I put a little time

1603
01:34:25,040 --> 01:34:27,960
Speaker 1: in there, and it was cast iron pan and it

1604
01:34:28,080 --> 01:34:30,280
Speaker 1: just and if you haven't seen it, it's on my Instagram.

1605
01:34:30,360 --> 01:34:32,559
Speaker 1: I think I put it up on Facebook too, just

1606
01:34:32,600 --> 01:34:34,559
Speaker 1: to you. I was proud of my work because I've

1607
01:34:34,560 --> 01:34:37,240
Speaker 1: really been trying to trying to improve my cooking technique.

1608
01:34:37,560 --> 01:34:40,640
Speaker 1: I'm not somebody who's had much cooking experience and I

1609
01:34:40,720 --> 01:34:46,719
Speaker 1: want to get better at this. And so I remember

1610
01:34:46,760 --> 01:34:48,320
Speaker 1: I shared this. I thought to myself, you know, it's

1611
01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:52,000
Speaker 1: so nice. Sometimes the social media you get to do,

1612
01:34:52,040 --> 01:34:56,160
Speaker 1: you get to do nice things. You know. Sometimes you

1613
01:34:56,240 --> 01:35:00,440
Speaker 1: get to just share, you know, a photo of a puppy,

1614
01:35:00,600 --> 01:35:03,479
Speaker 1: or you get to you know, put out there that

1615
01:35:04,439 --> 01:35:08,400
Speaker 1: you know, you made really nice burgers for your family,

1616
01:35:08,479 --> 01:35:10,880
Speaker 1: just something that you think. It's not political, right, this

1617
01:35:11,040 --> 01:35:13,360
Speaker 1: is I'm just a human being, man, I'm just a

1618
01:35:13,400 --> 01:35:16,880
Speaker 1: person like everybody else. And I put this steak up

1619
01:35:16,920 --> 01:35:19,080
Speaker 1: there and it's just a steak. I didn't I was

1620
01:35:19,120 --> 01:35:22,760
Speaker 1: in editorializing. I wasn't. I thought, if there are a

1621
01:35:22,840 --> 01:35:26,400
Speaker 1: few things that we can all still agree on in America,

1622
01:35:26,600 --> 01:35:31,160
Speaker 1: we can celebrate a perfectly seared Tomahawks steak should be

1623
01:35:31,200 --> 01:35:36,880
Speaker 1: on that list. And yet some guy who's a blue

1624
01:35:37,040 --> 01:35:41,040
Speaker 1: check Twitter person. So from a verified account, some guy

1625
01:35:41,160 --> 01:35:48,160
Speaker 1: named Jerry Saltz wrote in response to my steak, my

1626
01:35:48,439 --> 01:35:52,200
Speaker 1: non political steak tweet. Oh look at this steak. It

1627
01:35:52,320 --> 01:35:55,679
Speaker 1: is so good. Here's here's a short eight second video

1628
01:35:55,800 --> 01:35:59,280
Speaker 1: of its sizzling. This guy who has a half a

1629
01:35:59,320 --> 01:36:05,000
Speaker 1: million Twitter followers. Uh, this guy who is somebody that

1630
01:36:05,680 --> 01:36:09,400
Speaker 1: you know, he would think wouldn't be acting like such

1631
01:36:09,439 --> 01:36:15,160
Speaker 1: a mediac responded to my tweet quote symbol of a

1632
01:36:15,320 --> 01:36:24,200
Speaker 1: very lonely man with bad daddy issues. I was flabbergasted.

1633
01:36:24,680 --> 01:36:28,520
Speaker 1: I don't know this guy. I've had no He apparently

1634
01:36:28,600 --> 01:36:33,000
Speaker 1: won the Pulitzer Prize for Criticism for New York Magazine

1635
01:36:33,080 --> 01:36:36,960
Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen. Guy's got a half a million Twitter followers.

1636
01:36:37,600 --> 01:36:40,080
Speaker 1: You know, he looks kind of like, you know, a

1637
01:36:40,960 --> 01:36:45,160
Speaker 1: less a less attractive version of Woody Allen. But you know,

1638
01:36:45,200 --> 01:36:48,600
Speaker 1: he's a guy who writes for New York Magazine, And

1639
01:36:49,000 --> 01:36:52,320
Speaker 1: I sort of sit here, I think to myself, what

1640
01:36:52,600 --> 01:36:56,519
Speaker 1: exactly can I do now where I don't have to

1641
01:36:56,560 --> 01:36:59,639
Speaker 1: expect that I'm gonna get all this all this nasty

1642
01:36:59,680 --> 01:37:01,599
Speaker 1: blow back and all this stuff. You know, is there

1643
01:37:01,600 --> 01:37:05,360
Speaker 1: anything that's sacred? I mean, first of all, the notion

1644
01:37:05,479 --> 01:37:08,840
Speaker 1: that a steak cooking a steak is a symbol of

1645
01:37:08,840 --> 01:37:13,599
Speaker 1: a lonely man with daddy issues. It's so stupid. I

1646
01:37:13,640 --> 01:37:16,000
Speaker 1: think it's the dumbest thing I've ever read online from

1647
01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:19,519
Speaker 1: a person with a real platform and who works in

1648
01:37:19,600 --> 01:37:22,160
Speaker 1: media for a living, who is a writer for a living.

1649
01:37:23,200 --> 01:37:26,559
Speaker 1: I also thought about sharing a photo of miss Molly

1650
01:37:26,800 --> 01:37:29,120
Speaker 1: as she was wearing a black rifle t shirt in

1651
01:37:29,160 --> 01:37:32,559
Speaker 1: the kitchen with me just looking absolutely stunning and lovely

1652
01:37:33,200 --> 01:37:36,439
Speaker 1: and saying, I don't think. I don't think that I'm

1653
01:37:36,479 --> 01:37:40,280
Speaker 1: a very lonely man. I think I think that that's

1654
01:37:40,320 --> 01:37:44,200
Speaker 1: a pretty uh that's that's quite a stretch there, buddy.

1655
01:37:45,520 --> 01:37:47,599
Speaker 1: And yet, and yet, this was an exchange I had

1656
01:37:47,640 --> 01:37:49,800
Speaker 1: on social media, and you know what there was I

1657
01:37:49,880 --> 01:37:52,599
Speaker 1: thought about, you know, because I don't like it when

1658
01:37:52,600 --> 01:37:54,800
Speaker 1: people do this. I could have really dragged the guy

1659
01:37:55,000 --> 01:37:57,120
Speaker 1: and gone after him and made a huge thing of it.

1660
01:37:57,240 --> 01:38:00,200
Speaker 1: But you know, I don't know people say dumping things

1661
01:38:00,200 --> 01:38:02,040
Speaker 1: on Twitter, and not everyone who says dumb things on

1662
01:38:02,040 --> 01:38:04,080
Speaker 1: Twitter is a bad person. I don't want to be

1663
01:38:04,120 --> 01:38:07,679
Speaker 1: one of those people that really just you know, just

1664
01:38:07,760 --> 01:38:11,760
Speaker 1: turns turns the blade even you know it pushes it

1665
01:38:11,800 --> 01:38:14,680
Speaker 1: even deeper and turns it around and really twists it.

1666
01:38:15,080 --> 01:38:17,200
Speaker 1: So I decided I was just gonna be saying, you

1667
01:38:17,240 --> 01:38:19,880
Speaker 1: know what, I'll I'll let other people decide on this.

1668
01:38:19,920 --> 01:38:22,360
Speaker 1: One man, this is pretty dumb. But I let it go.

1669
01:38:22,400 --> 01:38:24,280
Speaker 1: And then I realized, you know what, in the in

1670
01:38:24,320 --> 01:38:29,160
Speaker 1: the spirit of Christmas, I'm gonna try to be even

1671
01:38:29,360 --> 01:38:31,599
Speaker 1: nicer for the rest of the month that I would

1672
01:38:31,640 --> 01:38:33,400
Speaker 1: normally be on Twitter. I don't know if I'm going

1673
01:38:33,439 --> 01:38:37,160
Speaker 1: to succeed, but despite the fact that there are mean

1674
01:38:37,439 --> 01:38:40,680
Speaker 1: trolls out there, including trolls with big followings and a

1675
01:38:40,720 --> 01:38:43,519
Speaker 1: lot of people that you know, want to want to

1676
01:38:43,520 --> 01:38:46,320
Speaker 1: be reading their stuff, I'm gonna try to be even

1677
01:38:46,400 --> 01:38:50,800
Speaker 1: nice because that's what Christmas is all about. I mean,

1678
01:38:50,840 --> 01:38:53,120
Speaker 1: it's actually about the birth of Jesus Christ, our Savior,

1679
01:38:53,720 --> 01:38:55,840
Speaker 1: but let's put that aside for a moment. Let's we

1680
01:38:55,880 --> 01:38:58,559
Speaker 1: won't even get into that. Be able Dully forget about

1681
01:38:58,560 --> 01:39:00,519
Speaker 1: that part of it. And I went to a whole

1682
01:39:00,600 --> 01:39:05,920
Speaker 1: Christmas music spectacular at the Kennedy Central last weekend. No

1683
01:39:06,080 --> 01:39:09,800
Speaker 1: talk of Jesus in this, which is interesting. I thought

1684
01:39:10,840 --> 01:39:13,280
Speaker 1: it is supposed to be Christmas songs and a lot

1685
01:39:13,320 --> 01:39:18,360
Speaker 1: of you know, all out woful Christmas is you, which

1686
01:39:18,520 --> 01:39:22,400
Speaker 1: it's not really what Christmas is not about. How I want,

1687
01:39:22,479 --> 01:39:26,360
Speaker 1: you know, somebody who's my love interest to you know

1688
01:39:26,360 --> 01:39:29,639
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I mean, I'm just saying a little

1689
01:39:29,680 --> 01:39:31,760
Speaker 1: bit of taking the Christ out of Christmas is a

1690
01:39:31,800 --> 01:39:35,080
Speaker 1: thing that happens with a lot to a lot, far

1691
01:39:35,120 --> 01:39:38,680
Speaker 1: too frequently in our in our country these days. But

1692
01:39:38,760 --> 01:39:40,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to be even nicer on Twitter. That's

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01:39:40,880 --> 01:39:43,280
Speaker 1: one of my little Christmas resolutions for the depress of

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01:39:43,280 --> 01:39:46,519
Speaker 1: the month. And I'm already probably too nice. So but

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01:39:47,479 --> 01:39:51,200
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna stop cooking steaks. In fact, I've already

1696
01:39:51,240 --> 01:39:53,200
Speaker 1: got a I've got later this week. I think I'm

1697
01:39:53,240 --> 01:39:57,360
Speaker 1: going for let mignon with some rosemary from my rosemary plant.

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01:39:57,560 --> 01:40:01,599
Speaker 1: Oh what's up? All right? Roll Call is next? Liberty,

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01:40:01,880 --> 01:40:20,799
Speaker 1: Truth and great Hair. Feel those funky beats. It's time

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01:40:20,840 --> 01:40:23,320
Speaker 1: for roll Call. But I know I gave you a

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01:40:23,320 --> 01:40:25,080
Speaker 1: head fake before. I'm the roll call, but this time

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01:40:25,120 --> 01:40:28,400
Speaker 1: I'm really I'm really getting getting into it. So here

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01:40:28,439 --> 01:40:31,720
Speaker 1: we go Facebook dot Com slash buck Sexton to be

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01:40:31,800 --> 01:40:36,519
Speaker 1: a part of the role call partey. Eric writes, I

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01:40:36,600 --> 01:40:39,439
Speaker 1: find this whole Michael Flynn in front of the judge

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01:40:39,479 --> 01:40:42,759
Speaker 1: thing to be very punscious, pilot, Like, if the judge

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01:40:42,880 --> 01:40:47,599
Speaker 1: doesn't like it, why doesn't he put a stop to it? Well, Eric, judges,

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01:40:47,720 --> 01:40:51,040
Speaker 1: federal judges have a lot of authority. They have a

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01:40:51,040 --> 01:40:54,080
Speaker 1: lot of power to do all kinds of things. I

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01:40:54,120 --> 01:40:57,639
Speaker 1: think people generally don't realize. The judges can go well

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01:40:57,680 --> 01:41:00,240
Speaker 1: beyond the sentence and guidelines. They can go well, hello

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01:41:00,320 --> 01:41:04,240
Speaker 1: the sentence and godelines. Judges can even set aside. People

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01:41:04,320 --> 01:41:06,360
Speaker 1: really don't know this one, and I bring this up

1714
01:41:06,360 --> 01:41:09,200
Speaker 1: and they usually say no way. Judges can set aside

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01:41:09,240 --> 01:41:11,200
Speaker 1: a jury verdict. They say, no, we're going to set

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01:41:11,200 --> 01:41:14,599
Speaker 1: aside that jury verdict and impose their own sentence. Now,

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01:41:14,760 --> 01:41:17,720
Speaker 1: that's regular and obviously would raise a lot of eyebrows,

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01:41:17,720 --> 01:41:21,160
Speaker 1: but they can do it. So as to why the

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01:41:21,240 --> 01:41:23,120
Speaker 1: judge is doing what he's doing here, there's a lot

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01:41:23,200 --> 01:41:25,960
Speaker 1: of theories about it. Right now, I think that people

1721
01:41:26,800 --> 01:41:30,000
Speaker 1: got a little bit of a dose of reality today.

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01:41:30,479 --> 01:41:35,960
Speaker 1: If we think that federal judges are not a part

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01:41:36,040 --> 01:41:38,360
Speaker 1: of the very system that is being abused to go

1724
01:41:38,400 --> 01:41:40,960
Speaker 1: I approve of people for political purposes, I think we're

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01:41:41,640 --> 01:41:46,160
Speaker 1: missing We're missing the point. They're federal judges. Prosecutors are

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01:41:46,280 --> 01:41:50,679
Speaker 1: very cozy, They're very much part of the same team

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01:41:50,800 --> 01:41:52,439
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways. Judges are just there to

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01:41:53,640 --> 01:41:56,280
Speaker 1: be a traffic cop in the process. But they're not

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01:41:56,680 --> 01:42:00,360
Speaker 1: Judges are not advocates for the citizenry over the state.

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01:42:00,560 --> 01:42:04,160
Speaker 1: Understand I remember, remember who pays the judges, the federal government.

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01:42:04,160 --> 01:42:06,040
Speaker 1: That's where they're drawing their paycheck. Now, I'm not saying

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01:42:06,040 --> 01:42:10,439
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean they're judges who are very very much

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01:42:10,479 --> 01:42:13,280
Speaker 1: devoted to the Constitution and the rule of law and

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01:42:13,840 --> 01:42:19,960
Speaker 1: are an essential bullwork in defense of individual liberty, because

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01:42:19,960 --> 01:42:24,760
Speaker 1: there are But just I think that we've seen, or

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01:42:24,840 --> 01:42:28,040
Speaker 1: we were led to believe by some people that maybe

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01:42:28,080 --> 01:42:31,240
Speaker 1: weren't paying critically close attention, that federal judges are going

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01:42:31,320 --> 01:42:33,479
Speaker 1: to be our saviors. You know. It's like with this

1739
01:42:33,600 --> 01:42:35,680
Speaker 1: Obamacare ruling. I mean, I think that this is not

1740
01:42:35,720 --> 01:42:39,240
Speaker 1: gonna stand up, and so this federal judge. If anything,

1741
01:42:39,360 --> 01:42:41,439
Speaker 1: has made it harder for Republicans. I think of the

1742
01:42:41,479 --> 01:42:45,000
Speaker 1: long term, because this is going to get overturned, and

1743
01:42:45,040 --> 01:42:48,880
Speaker 1: then they're gonna say, see, our our judges quote, our

1744
01:42:49,000 --> 01:42:52,680
Speaker 1: judges uphold Obamacare, and that's the law of land. Your

1745
01:42:52,800 --> 01:42:58,799
Speaker 1: judges try to overturn Obamacare and they fail. So that's

1746
01:42:58,880 --> 01:43:01,599
Speaker 1: there's a There's a whole show to be had here,

1747
01:43:01,680 --> 01:43:05,280
Speaker 1: many shows, probably a whole a series that we could

1748
01:43:05,280 --> 01:43:08,320
Speaker 1: just do on the politicization of the judiciary and what

1749
01:43:08,360 --> 01:43:11,640
Speaker 1: it means for this country and some of the pitfalls

1750
01:43:11,680 --> 01:43:16,200
Speaker 1: that come from it. Thomas, what's up? A man said, whoh, Thomas,

1751
01:43:16,240 --> 01:43:19,240
Speaker 1: this is very long. I'm wondering what Robert Mueller's game

1752
01:43:19,320 --> 01:43:22,400
Speaker 1: is here, Buck. What prompted him to refer flynn sentencing

1753
01:43:22,439 --> 01:43:24,800
Speaker 1: hearing to be conducted at this time when he knows

1754
01:43:24,840 --> 01:43:27,799
Speaker 1: the statute of limitations for his recommended charges doesn't expire

1755
01:43:27,840 --> 01:43:31,120
Speaker 1: for another four years, and he hasn't ended his investigation

1756
01:43:31,200 --> 01:43:34,000
Speaker 1: or submitted a final report to the DOJ. The timing

1757
01:43:34,040 --> 01:43:36,960
Speaker 1: here doesn't make any sense. Having Flynn testify against his

1758
01:43:37,000 --> 01:43:39,160
Speaker 1: partners would not be dependent on Flynn being sentenced for

1759
01:43:39,200 --> 01:43:42,000
Speaker 1: his alleged crime. And now the prospect of Flynn being

1760
01:43:42,080 --> 01:43:45,720
Speaker 1: charged by Judge Sullivan for higher crimes would invalidate any

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01:43:45,720 --> 01:43:48,400
Speaker 1: further testimony or appearance in court, as well as witness

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01:43:48,400 --> 01:43:51,599
Speaker 1: against as well as a witness against his former business partners.

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01:43:52,680 --> 01:43:54,719
Speaker 1: Is that the deal between Muller and Flynn that Mueller

1764
01:43:54,760 --> 01:43:57,479
Speaker 1: will insulate Flynn from testifying against his partners, that exchange

1765
01:43:57,479 --> 01:44:01,839
Speaker 1: for more information, Shield Tie, Judge Sullivan should be outraged.

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01:44:01,920 --> 01:44:04,439
Speaker 1: What's going on then, Shield side, Thomas, You're doing a

1767
01:44:04,439 --> 01:44:06,760
Speaker 1: lot of very good thinking on this, a lot of

1768
01:44:06,800 --> 01:44:11,479
Speaker 1: very good analysis. I have to tell you, I don't know.

1769
01:44:12,040 --> 01:44:14,360
Speaker 1: I don't know what the answer is here, and I

1770
01:44:14,400 --> 01:44:16,840
Speaker 1: think it's important to tell you when I really don't know.

1771
01:44:18,080 --> 01:44:21,200
Speaker 1: I have some ideas, I certainly have some analysis to

1772
01:44:21,240 --> 01:44:23,439
Speaker 1: offer up on it, as I have been throughout this show,

1773
01:44:24,240 --> 01:44:26,599
Speaker 1: but it's not exactly clear to me what's going on here.

1774
01:44:26,720 --> 01:44:31,840
Speaker 1: Remember we're going off of imperfect information. Even for a

1775
01:44:31,920 --> 01:44:35,400
Speaker 1: federal trial. You know, indictments tend to be are sealed

1776
01:44:35,439 --> 01:44:36,960
Speaker 1: in the first place. But not only do we have

1777
01:44:37,200 --> 01:44:44,040
Speaker 1: sealed indictment issue, we also have the issue of classification

1778
01:44:44,240 --> 01:44:46,880
Speaker 1: and ongoing investigation. Right they're claiming that some of this

1779
01:44:47,000 --> 01:44:52,240
Speaker 1: information is classified, so we can't see it perhaps under

1780
01:44:52,240 --> 01:44:55,320
Speaker 1: any circumstances. And there's a lot that we're gonna have

1781
01:44:55,320 --> 01:44:59,559
Speaker 1: to sift through here. Why would this judge delay the

1782
01:44:59,680 --> 01:45:04,080
Speaker 1: center sing until March. Why would the judge say that

1783
01:45:04,200 --> 01:45:07,000
Speaker 1: maybe he sold out? That Flynn sold out his country,

1784
01:45:07,000 --> 01:45:12,440
Speaker 1: which he then apologized for. Very irregular, A really unsteady

1785
01:45:12,560 --> 01:45:15,360
Speaker 1: day in the federal court today, I mean, not a

1786
01:45:15,479 --> 01:45:18,360
Speaker 1: day that gives people a lot of confidence in what's

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01:45:18,400 --> 01:45:22,120
Speaker 1: going on with the federal judiciary. So I'm open to

1788
01:45:22,160 --> 01:45:24,880
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of different theories about this one.

1789
01:45:25,680 --> 01:45:30,640
Speaker 1: I do think that Flynn's liability here, the real liability,

1790
01:45:30,680 --> 01:45:33,400
Speaker 1: had to do with the lobbying for Turkey, and with

1791
01:45:33,520 --> 01:45:38,840
Speaker 1: trying to keep his son out of federal criminal jeopardy,

1792
01:45:38,880 --> 01:45:42,439
Speaker 1: and also just wanted this whole thing to end. But

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01:45:43,040 --> 01:45:45,439
Speaker 1: you know that that leaves a lot open territory for

1794
01:45:45,680 --> 01:45:49,280
Speaker 1: wolves Flynn just saying he's guilty. You know, Annie MacArthur

1795
01:45:49,360 --> 01:45:50,880
Speaker 1: wrote this piece of the Weekend where he's like Flynn

1796
01:45:50,960 --> 01:45:52,960
Speaker 1: lytte it looks like Flynn Lyne. And that's that's the

1797
01:45:53,040 --> 01:45:56,040
Speaker 1: case as far as we know it. Flynn did lie.

1798
01:45:56,439 --> 01:45:59,479
Speaker 1: Why would he lie? Why a lot of the FBI

1799
01:45:59,640 --> 01:46:03,240
Speaker 1: about this. What purpose would that serve? I find it

1800
01:46:03,560 --> 01:46:05,880
Speaker 1: very hard to believe that the former director of the

1801
01:46:05,920 --> 01:46:10,120
Speaker 1: Defense Intelligence Agency did not know or would not have known,

1802
01:46:10,760 --> 01:46:13,080
Speaker 1: that this conversation was monitored. It had been reported in

1803
01:46:13,120 --> 01:46:15,320
Speaker 1: the press that the conversation was monitored, which is why

1804
01:46:15,320 --> 01:46:17,960
Speaker 1: it was a thing in the first place. So even

1805
01:46:18,000 --> 01:46:20,720
Speaker 1: if he didn't know for some reason that this conversation

1806
01:46:20,800 --> 01:46:25,440
Speaker 1: had been recorded and transcribed as part of counterintelligence monitoring,

1807
01:46:26,000 --> 01:46:28,840
Speaker 1: then which by the way, is a huge breach of

1808
01:46:29,479 --> 01:46:31,759
Speaker 1: protocol that this information even got out there and somebody

1809
01:46:31,760 --> 01:46:35,439
Speaker 1: committed a felony leak to get Flynn. And then the end,

1810
01:46:35,439 --> 01:46:37,920
Speaker 1: did the FBI try to set Flinn up? Absolutely, the

1811
01:46:37,920 --> 01:46:39,760
Speaker 1: FBI was trying to set Flint up. And I I want

1812
01:46:39,760 --> 01:46:41,719
Speaker 1: to see the FBI. A few people in the FBI

1813
01:46:42,400 --> 01:46:48,280
Speaker 1: COMI struck McCabe, Sally Yates, you know, these pro institutionalist,

1814
01:46:49,360 --> 01:46:53,760
Speaker 1: pro Hillary holdovers in the Department of Justice. I mean,

1815
01:46:53,800 --> 01:46:55,519
Speaker 1: they're the ones that decided that they were going to

1816
01:46:55,600 --> 01:46:58,960
Speaker 1: get Flynn, and that's what happened here. But he made

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01:46:59,000 --> 01:47:01,160
Speaker 1: it way too easy for them. I mean, I can't

1818
01:47:01,160 --> 01:47:05,120
Speaker 1: tell you that Flynn didn't mess up here because he did,

1819
01:47:05,560 --> 01:47:08,479
Speaker 1: and the lobbying for Turkey. I saw this to you

1820
01:47:08,560 --> 01:47:10,160
Speaker 1: yesterday the show, and go back and listen to it.

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01:47:10,840 --> 01:47:13,000
Speaker 1: I can't see a defense of this. I think this

1822
01:47:13,160 --> 01:47:17,200
Speaker 1: was really shady and showed very poor judgment, just as

1823
01:47:17,240 --> 01:47:20,519
Speaker 1: I said to you yesterday before the whole ordeal today

1824
01:47:20,560 --> 01:47:22,920
Speaker 1: in the Federal Court. I don't know why a three

1825
01:47:22,960 --> 01:47:27,280
Speaker 1: star general would think that advocating on behalf of Turkey,

1826
01:47:27,320 --> 01:47:30,680
Speaker 1: which is really an autocracy. Now. I mean, they say

1827
01:47:30,720 --> 01:47:35,439
Speaker 1: it's a democracy, but ERDAUA has effectively made it a

1828
01:47:35,479 --> 01:47:39,240
Speaker 1: Turkish version of Putin's Russia. Or maybe Putin is a

1829
01:47:39,360 --> 01:47:43,600
Speaker 1: Russian version of Erduan's Turkey. So this is not a

1830
01:47:43,760 --> 01:47:45,360
Speaker 1: This is not a regime that he should have been

1831
01:47:45,920 --> 01:47:49,080
Speaker 1: that in any way Flynn should have been lending his

1832
01:47:49,080 --> 01:47:50,960
Speaker 1: credibility to him and involved with any He should have

1833
01:47:51,000 --> 01:47:53,360
Speaker 1: known better on that one. Now, should his life be ruined,

1834
01:47:53,360 --> 01:47:55,560
Speaker 1: should thirty years of service all be forgotten? Should he

1835
01:47:55,640 --> 01:47:59,280
Speaker 1: been targeted because he's part of Trump's inner circle? No, no,

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01:47:59,400 --> 01:48:02,400
Speaker 1: of course not. But there's a lot. You know, multiple

1837
01:48:02,439 --> 01:48:05,160
Speaker 1: things can be true at the same time. It can

1838
01:48:05,200 --> 01:48:08,080
Speaker 1: be true that Flynn showed poor judgment and that Flynn

1839
01:48:08,240 --> 01:48:10,559
Speaker 1: was targeted by the FBI, and that's what I think

1840
01:48:10,600 --> 01:48:13,000
Speaker 1: happened here. It can be true that Flynn lied and

1841
01:48:13,200 --> 01:48:15,080
Speaker 1: that he never should have been put in a position

1842
01:48:15,960 --> 01:48:19,200
Speaker 1: for that lie to have been a criminal matter. You know,

1843
01:48:19,400 --> 01:48:24,479
Speaker 1: multiple things can be true at the same time. Rick writes, Buck,

1844
01:48:24,760 --> 01:48:28,040
Speaker 1: still love your show. Pretty sure that will never change.

1845
01:48:28,520 --> 01:48:31,400
Speaker 1: Heard your Christmas movie list and wasn't surprised you'd never

1846
01:48:31,479 --> 01:48:34,759
Speaker 1: heard of the movie The Apartment, released in nineteen sixty,

1847
01:48:34,760 --> 01:48:37,839
Speaker 1: directed by Billy Wilder and starring Jack Lemon and Shirley McClain.

1848
01:48:38,280 --> 01:48:40,960
Speaker 1: Although some might think it dated now, I think the

1849
01:48:41,080 --> 01:48:43,840
Speaker 1: underlying message of right and wrong is still relevant. It

1850
01:48:44,000 --> 01:48:46,320
Speaker 1: is definitely a Christmas movie that will take you through

1851
01:48:46,320 --> 01:48:49,439
Speaker 1: the gamut of emotions and very worth seeing. Merry Christmas

1852
01:48:49,479 --> 01:48:53,880
Speaker 1: to you and miss Molly shield tie Oss, Rick, oh Rick,

1853
01:48:53,920 --> 01:48:55,360
Speaker 1: thank you so much for letting me know what The

1854
01:48:55,400 --> 01:48:58,280
Speaker 1: Apartment's all about and for the con message. Miss Molly

1855
01:48:58,320 --> 01:49:01,360
Speaker 1: sends you a big hog and and a Christmas kiss

1856
01:49:01,400 --> 01:49:05,280
Speaker 1: on the cheek. And yeah, man, I think that that's

1857
01:49:05,320 --> 01:49:07,200
Speaker 1: a movie that I'll have to watch over this holiday season.

1858
01:49:07,200 --> 01:49:09,920
Speaker 1: I'm just laying low. I'm gonna be doing reading and

1859
01:49:10,760 --> 01:49:13,240
Speaker 1: thinking and resting and maybe even get to the gym

1860
01:49:13,280 --> 01:49:14,880
Speaker 1: for the first time in a while. That would be nice.

1861
01:49:15,120 --> 01:49:18,479
Speaker 1: I do not have any exciting plans this year. I

1862
01:49:18,520 --> 01:49:21,760
Speaker 1: think that that's gonna be gonna be the way that

1863
01:49:22,320 --> 01:49:26,000
Speaker 1: we way that I rejuvenate a little bit here. You

1864
01:49:26,040 --> 01:49:29,120
Speaker 1: need to need to chill. Dale Rights. Hey, Buck, really

1865
01:49:29,120 --> 01:49:31,880
Speaker 1: appreciated your shout out to Trading Places as a great

1866
01:49:32,400 --> 01:49:36,519
Speaker 1: Christmas movie. Sometimes people forget about it. It remains not

1867
01:49:36,560 --> 01:49:39,559
Speaker 1: only my favorite Christmas movie, but one of my top

1868
01:49:39,640 --> 01:49:45,240
Speaker 1: five comedies of all time. Randolph Mortimer truly an all

1869
01:49:45,280 --> 01:49:48,360
Speaker 1: star cast and also very educational with respect to concepts

1870
01:49:48,360 --> 01:49:51,639
Speaker 1: of the market and buying on margin. Yeah, I think

1871
01:49:51,640 --> 01:49:54,120
Speaker 1: the Trading Places people would say forty eight hours. I

1872
01:49:54,160 --> 01:49:57,880
Speaker 1: think Trading Places is Eddie Murphy's second best movie after

1873
01:49:57,920 --> 01:49:59,559
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills Cop. I know that might be a little

1874
01:49:59,600 --> 01:50:03,000
Speaker 1: controver schell, but I put it ahead of Beverly Hills Cop.

1875
01:50:03,040 --> 01:50:06,479
Speaker 1: I think it's really really entertaining, very very well done.

1876
01:50:07,040 --> 01:50:10,479
Speaker 1: And so there you have it, all right, team, that's

1877
01:50:10,479 --> 01:50:13,200
Speaker 1: gonna be it for today in the hunt, We're gonna

1878
01:50:13,240 --> 01:50:17,160
Speaker 1: have an exciting, informative, and invigorating week. You're on radio

1879
01:50:17,280 --> 01:50:20,040
Speaker 1: looking forward to it. I will talk to you all tomorrow,

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01:50:20,720 --> 01:50:23,360
Speaker 1: shield Hie. I really love posting on snippy dot com

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Speaker 1: you're posting is what people are seeing, and you can

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Speaker 1: communicate with other folks about the Second Amendment, about the Constitution,

1894
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Speaker 1: about any issue that comes to mind, without worrying about

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