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Speaker 3: Granting's welcome in. Second half begins Fox Sports Radio Jason

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Speaker 3: Smith Show with Me and Mike Harmon. No Jason Smith tonight,

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Speaker 3: and instead our guy, the Stinking Genius stops on by.

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Speaker 3: As he's not quite sweating out the Arizona Wildest. He

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Speaker 3: still los his mind at Stinking Genius one where you

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Speaker 3: find him. You hear him Sunday nights alongside Chris Blank.

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Speaker 3: Thanks to all our team making us sound all pretty.

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Speaker 3: Shay in the back freshly shorn and got he got

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Speaker 3: a haircut on he we got Alex Justin Brandon doing

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Speaker 3: some of the digital work, and of course Monsey keeping

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Speaker 3: a surprise of everything going on at the news desk.

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Speaker 3: Arizona is ninety one seventy two seven fourteen remaining Illinois

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Speaker 3: with a twelve point lead and the ball coming up

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Speaker 3: on three minutes left in their matchup against Houston and

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Speaker 3: Calvin Sampson. And that's one of the things that it's

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Speaker 3: been interesting to watch the evolution. And we've talked a

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Speaker 3: lot of college buckets related in college football related to nil,

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Speaker 3: the changing face of the game for players and transfer

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Speaker 3: rules and dollars and cents. But a couple of years

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Speaker 3: ago there was the fear that you were going to

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Speaker 3: have this exodus of all of the old learned wise

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Speaker 3: coaches because you saw Jay Wright, you saw Shrzyzewsky, who

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Speaker 3: might have been at that tipping point age wise, but

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Speaker 3: still was not a fan of where things were going.

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Speaker 3: So he taps out John Shire at thirty eight years old.

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Speaker 4: Jim beheiman hill stuff now.

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Speaker 3: Right, Bill self, we're still waiting to find out what

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Speaker 3: all goes on there, right, But conjecture that maybe he

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Speaker 3: walks away. But all of that to say that we

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Speaker 3: do still in the tournament, have great representation. We do

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Speaker 5: You know, Nick Saban would still be coaching if you

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Speaker 5: didn't have to deal with NIL. I just don't think

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Speaker 5: that these, you know, nil is actually harder, I believe

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Speaker 5: room back in the day and having them try to

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Speaker 5: go to their school. It's it's completely different now. And

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Speaker 5: you're right, you have to not only convince kids to

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Speaker 5: I don't think a lot of coaches want to deal

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but some of it just goes to the infrastructure,

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Speaker 3: Like you've always had to do the recruiting game, and

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Speaker 3: scholarships are not.

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Speaker 4: Hey, now you've got to pay years.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right now you're working to a budget insert tangentially

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Speaker 3: with a laugh and a knowing smile that and maybe

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Speaker 3: Some folks were always working to a budget. But that's

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Speaker 3: a whole other thing. But you're looking at just if

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Speaker 3: you build the right infrastructure for a coach, perhaps it's

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Speaker 3: not as difficult as it would have seen three to

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Speaker 3: five years ago, right because it turned, no question about it.

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Speaker 3: It's a whether it's that soft left turn or a

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Speaker 5: The sharp left turn doesn't work. You said, we see

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Speaker 3: Well, it's how you navigate it, right, I mean. And

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Speaker 5: What about for BYU did it pay? You have the

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Speaker 3: Well, that's the unfortunate side of it, right, There's always

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Speaker 3: team's success. Again, We've talked about this at any level,

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Speaker 4: How's the coach like that? How's the coach of what

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Speaker 5: Embedded from Santa Clara was up there thirty two years

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Speaker 5: I think is a phenomenal move by Arizona State. That's

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Speaker 3: But that's just it, right. Everybody's always looking for another opportunity,

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Speaker 3: whether it's the they just love coaching and that's what's

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Speaker 3: the altruistic side of it, which again altruism to me

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Speaker 3: That is. Not to mention millions of dollars coaching, but

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Speaker 3: looking for that next challenge. The fact that we have

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Speaker 3: So many had lamented these last couple of years and.

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Speaker 5: It's good for the game because we like watching them,

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Speaker 3: Well, they're the main stays of all of it, right,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like eve, even in.

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Speaker 3: The old days, right, you know, the Hey, I got

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Speaker 3: to know this squad, and that was part of the appeal, right,

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Speaker 5: Well bring out the old days like you just could

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Speaker 5: you imagine North Carolina, Kansas available back twenty five years ago,

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Speaker 4: We be talking about it for months.

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Speaker 3: But let's but let's just let's just stay with the

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Speaker 3: North Carolina Carolina job for a second, right, as we

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Speaker 3: wait as to whether Bill self actually leaves or not, right,

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Speaker 3: because that's not a done deal.

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Speaker 4: Well, he's leaving. It's it's it's a done deal. He's gone.

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Speaker 3: You just decided. He said, it's no news, bad info,

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Speaker 3: and baby's someone jumped the gun. Maybe someone had the scoop.

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Speaker 3: But he's not done yet. Okay, Okay, doesn't mean that

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Speaker 3: that doesn't change by a lot of right, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't see him staying, but that's his choice him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's his choice. I like that, Like I've

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Speaker 3: decided that he's done. Even if he has, that's pretty

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Speaker 3: bunny that his choice. But for Hubert Davis at North Carolina.

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Speaker 4: Terrible fire, they should not have done that.

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Speaker 3: Well. See, and that's where I think I allow me

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Speaker 3: to retort, is that you had a pattern. And I

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Speaker 6: For a championship a couple of years ago. Also, that's

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Speaker 6: several years back. How how many years do you get

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Speaker 6: to run off? Well, I mean they've missed the tournament

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Speaker 6: since then, and then they've had multiple big time games

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Speaker 6: that they've blown what double digit leads fifteen to nineteen

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Speaker 3: Case, So it out.

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Speaker 4: So if you're sakeing all comes down to one game.

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Speaker 4: That's what bothers me because theyve it.

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Speaker 3: Isn't that what we've been doing forever? If you don't winn, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: The whole tortality of the situation, not one game, Mike,

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Speaker 5: that's not what you do.

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Speaker 3: But if you lose in that fashion multiple times in

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Speaker 3: the NCAA tournament, that's a pattern. Don't you need to

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Speaker 3: get out of that pattern? You're telling me you can't

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Speaker 3: get over You can be good but not great.

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Speaker 5: No, because if they win that VCU game. But they

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Speaker 5: were talking about that, you're.

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Speaker 3: What they didn't They blew another nineteen point.

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Speaker 4: Lead, right right right.

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Speaker 3: It's the latest in a long sample size for Hubert Davis.

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Speaker 3: Look at he might be the nicest guy in the world.

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Speaker 4: I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't pretend to know the man.

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Speaker 4: Well, they didn't have plan be available though.

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Speaker 5: What now they're trying to find out who they're going

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Speaker 5: to get, and I keep hearing you know, Tommy Lloyd's

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Speaker 3: First well, because the other guys had already said no,

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Speaker 3: two names that jumped to the top of the odds

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Speaker 5: If you're gonna make that happen.

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Speaker 3: Well we'll see if he has a star. Jefferson's still

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Speaker 3: having great pain trying to go through the paces ahead

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Speaker 3: of their matchup tomorrow. I have Iowa State winning it all.

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Speaker 3: So this is bad for the fact that he got

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Speaker 3: hurt as the tournament started, like throw my pen in

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Speaker 3: the air. But it's uh, what what are you gonna

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Speaker 3: do I was in I was tied for first place.

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Speaker 3: I took the screenshot after first weekend. But you know,

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Speaker 3: for the North Carolina, I agree with you that you

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Speaker 3: should have had plan be more solidified, but.

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Speaker 4: But you really couldn't because the season still going on.

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Speaker 3: Well, but that's the hard part, right. You may have

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Speaker 3: intel that you like your bill self is done.

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Speaker 4: Bit.

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Speaker 3: You may have intel that tells you, hey, this guy

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Speaker 3: would love to sit down with you, but he can't

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Speaker 3: until after this round or after this game. You know,

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Speaker 3: there's and iron. You can't even really get through the

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Speaker 3: agent at this point, you know, for any of that,

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Speaker 3: you know, to really be substantive whatever the buyouts are,

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Speaker 3: because that that's the other thing. Hubert Davis had no

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Speaker 3: money left on his deal. What was it five or

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Speaker 3: six million that was guaranteed, Like that's nothing. I don't

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Speaker 3: Mike Harman. Arnie Spanier in for Jason tonight. Illinois has

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Speaker 3: So how do you reward yourself? You guzzle bottle of

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Speaker 5: ahead and play Division one sports is and I didn't

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Speaker 5: even realize it, so I, you know, I had to

436
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 5: deal with my kid trying to play hockey is so minuscule.

437
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 4: The openings are not as big as you think.

438
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Speaker 5: You know, you're saying to yourself, Wow, you got football

439
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 5: and a hundred kids are on a team, and you

440
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 5: got so many teams and there's over you know, a

441
00:22:57,800 --> 00:22:59,680
Speaker 5: couple hundred teams in basketball.

442
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,159
Speaker 4: But you know, you really do the math. It's not

443
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Speaker 4: what you think.

444
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:06,639
Speaker 3: Well for football, it's seven percent, you know, right and

445
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 3: play at the collegiate level, but less than two percent

446
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 3: to move on to Division one where the right right

447
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 3: and scholarships for that right.

448
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 5: And you know, your kid has to be really, really

449
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 5: good to be worried about getting nil type of money

450
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,640
Speaker 5: in football or basketball. I don't know about the other

451
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 5: sports at this point, about baseball or hockey or anything

452
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 5: like that, but you have to be really good to

453
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Speaker 5: get that type of money.

454
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Speaker 4: And you know, with the influx of a lot of foreigners.

455
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:41,879
Speaker 5: You know, coming into play college basketball overseas Europeans and

456
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,880
Speaker 5: also people coming back from like G League stuff, it's

457
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 5: just too tough to go ahead. And you know, be

458
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:53,439
Speaker 5: a star in college basketball, you really have to stand

459
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 5: out like a Cooper Flag. Otherwise it's really not worth

460
00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 5: it and you should just you know, stay the course

461
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Speaker 5: and worry out other things.

462
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Speaker 3: Well. And that's the thing, right, it's the maturity of

463
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Speaker 3: the kid, not just from the physical side of things,

464
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Speaker 3: because you're you're gonna do the comparison of like why

465
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Speaker 3: am I a year older than my classmates or a

466
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 3: year and a half or whatever, So you know, there's

467
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Speaker 3: something to the psychology of it that comes into play. Look,

468
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 3: my daughter's my older one is twenty and the younger

469
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Speaker 3: one's seventeen, coming up on eighteen. Year at the end

470
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Speaker 3: of June. I just remember when the older one was

471
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Speaker 3: finishing grade school, there were a couple of the parents

472
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Speaker 3: that they thought their kids were hockey prodigies, so they

473
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Speaker 3: held them back.

474
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Speaker 4: It's always like that with the hockey players. It's always

475
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Speaker 4: like that.

476
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Speaker 3: Did you consider it at any point? Aren't he?

477
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Speaker 4: I mean no, But you not.

478
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Speaker 5: To make this say more because you're like you said,

479
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,119
Speaker 5: show it's all about the years.

480
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Speaker 4: You know.

481
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 5: We don't even call him by his name. We just

482
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Speaker 5: called him in ninety seven. You know, what's your kid's name,

483
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,880
Speaker 5: ninety seven. It's all about that. So no, we never

484
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 5: we considered it. Really, your chance has come when you

485
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 5: get to college, and then after you leave college. There's

486
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 5: so many professional leagues in hockey. It's amazing. You can

487
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 5: go to just so many cities in Europe and overseas.

488
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Speaker 5: If you really want to play for a long time,

489
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Speaker 5: you can well.

490
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Speaker 3: And that's the thing, right, and again it goes back

491
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Speaker 3: to the maturity of the kids. So maybe the extra

492
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Speaker 3: year helps in that regard of you know, focus and prospects,

493
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Speaker 3: et cetera. If you're willing to go make that that leap. Right,

494
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 3: there's a lot of professional basketball leagues now, there's many

495
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:38,400
Speaker 3: of them where good luck actually extracting your paycheck right

496
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 3: of those stories. But I remember guys at Northwestern and

497
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 3: I love them dearly, but they weren't particularly good, but

498
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 3: they were tall and went and had fantastic lives overseas

499
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Speaker 3: for a couple of years.

500
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Speaker 4: You could do it.

501
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 3: They made pretty good money. Housing was paid, meals were paid,

502
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 3: all of those things to where it.

503
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Speaker 4: Coaches just do that.

504
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's just it. It's job opportunities if you want

505
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 3: to stick with the field. It's like, I mean, to

506
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:10,439
Speaker 3: a what the same extent, it's job chasing in our field,

507
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 3: aren't he? You know, we're not always blessed to be

508
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 3: able to stay in the same spot, the same roles,

509
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:21,439
Speaker 3: same opportunities. It's a mutating business, no question about it.

510
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 4: Day to day, that's sure.

511
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Speaker 3: But it's the same thing, right, Are you willing to

512
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 3: go that next step and stay with it or you know,

513
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 3: at what point is the cost mental, physical, family, relational.

514
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Speaker 4: It's too much of a cost. You're you're damaging your

515
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Speaker 4: kid too much? Is that something I would do?

516
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Speaker 5: I can't believe that this is going to be like

517
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 5: a common practice even among adults. This is just wrong

518
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,679
Speaker 5: to do. Just keep your kid in the grade that

519
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 5: he is. If he's really that good, he'll excels somewhere

520
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 5: along the line. You can't really worry about nil money anyway.

521
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Speaker 5: That's you know, so far fetched to begin with. And

522
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 5: you know what, if you're it is smart enough, it

523
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 5: gets a college degree, he'll be able to make his

524
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Speaker 5: own money.

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Speaker 3: Well. And that's the initial thing, was the quest for

526
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Speaker 3: a scholarship, as I alluded to, you know the classmates

527
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Speaker 3: of my daughters, and it's the same thing. Right, it's

528
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 3: still just a very small percentage, doesn't mean it's not attainable.

529
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 3: And depending on what you also want to do and

530
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Speaker 3: how academically minded you are in the process. Right, if

531
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 3: it's all sports sports, sports, that's great, but you know

532
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 3: that then you'll take whatever offer comes and goes from there.

533
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,719
Speaker 3: But if you're being discerning of hey, this doesn't align

534
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Speaker 3: with what I want to do for my future, and

535
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,400
Speaker 3: I'll speak to that personally, it just becomes a all right, well,

536
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:49,199
Speaker 3: this school doesn't work because they want to dissuade you

537
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 3: from this course of study because practices lab versus lab

538
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 3: time and all of those kind of things. Those decisions

539
00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 3: have to be made as well. So you might be

540
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 3: on the board to where you can go find yourself money,

541
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 3: but academically it doesn't match up with what you want

542
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,880
Speaker 3: to do, you know, which is a much smaller sub section,

543
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 3: but it's still, you know, part of the equation.

544
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Speaker 5: We proved that leaving kids behind is not the way

545
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 5: to do it. Remember no kids left behind? Remember that

546
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 5: rule that was a slogan in these school systems, no

547
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 5: kids left behind. We're gonna push it to the next

548
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,199
Speaker 5: grade because when we left kids behind, they felt like

549
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 5: outcast and they ended up quitting school and didn't want

550
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,640
Speaker 5: to go back anymore. Not that you know, pushing kids

551
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 5: that don't deserve to go throughs any better, but it

552
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 5: certainly better psychologically.

553
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Speaker 3: Well, a lot of it is just trying to figure

554
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 3: out where the the aptitudes are, the interests and that

555
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 3: investment which teacher to teach your school to school district

556
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 3: and go on down the line is going to vary,

557
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Speaker 3: you know, in level of importance.

558
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Speaker 4: And we move kids up that are smart. We move

559
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 4: kids up that are smart, we never say anything about that.

560
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Speaker 3: Well, some of that becomes theory testing of how much

561
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 3: can you handle? And I mean I'd be curious for

562
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Speaker 3: those if.

563
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 4: You Dookie Howser, but that well you leave Neil.

564
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 3: Patrick Harris and that fine fantastic show alone. Uh you

565
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 3: know there there have been plenty of those Prodigy shows

566
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Speaker 3: through the years. But but all of that to say,

567
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 3: I mean, where I and it's probably out there, but

568
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 3: some of those studies of what effect and impact did

569
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Speaker 3: that have on them as people? While they might have

570
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 3: been high achievers in school, once they got into the

571
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 3: quote unquote real world, you know, how did they ascend

572
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 3: to their what struggles did they have, et cetera. I'm

573
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 3: sure there's a book. I'm reading a book about dopamine

574
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 3: addiction right now. Really fascinating.

575
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really terrifying, to be honest.

576
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 3: I'll send you some snippets of it.

577
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Speaker 4: Some of the data that's supporting the horizon.

578
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Speaker 3: Well, you know what, I try to be a little

579
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Speaker 3: more than a box score reader or why why did

580
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 3: cuz beg world out there? Arnie span is there? I

581
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 3: didn't know that well that's what they tell me anyway.

582
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Speaker 3: But here I am in the Vox Sports radio studios

583
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Speaker 3: here in southern California. Hey, be sure to check out

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Speaker 3: our YouTube channel for the show. Search Jason Smith Shaw

585
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 3: on YouTube again Jason Smith Show. I'll be there too,

586
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Speaker 3: yelling at you just the same. Be sure to hit

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Speaker 3: the subscribe button, hit the thumbs up icon, comment away,

588
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 3: let us know what you agree with and also when

589
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 3: you disagree, that's even more fun. H A R M

590
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Speaker 3: O N. And it's Mike. You call me Mark, you

591
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Speaker 3: get the dirty side eye. Go check out the YouTube

592
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 3: channel again, search Jason Smith Show and subscribe because you

593
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 3: know that guy's gonna screw me again here in short order.

594
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Speaker 3: He's got a book coming out and he's gonna do

595
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Speaker 3: a book tour and all of a sudden people are

596
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Speaker 3: gonna start calling me Mark again.

597
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Speaker 4: It's better than what they always call you, that's for sure.

598
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Speaker 3: Wow.

599
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Speaker 2: Save that for the Power Hour.

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Speaker 3: Spaniard at Stick and Genius one is where you find Arnie.

601
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Speaker 3: Find me over at Swollen Dome. Now let's take it

602
00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 3: back to the news desk to someone we we sh

603
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 3: great respect for. She's celebrating a big opening day victory.

604
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 3: She's only gonna mock my White Sox so much.

605
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Speaker 8: It's that's low hanging fruit. I wouldn't do that twenty

606
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 8: strikeouts Monso, he said, lying Frue, I.

607
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Speaker 3: Could have gone up there and done the same, or

608
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 3: Aaron Judge Gray.

609
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 8: Aaron Judge definitely could have all by himself.

610
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Speaker 9: I don't know who's more excited, Arnie or me, because

611
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 9: Arnie also did get a big win right now, right

612
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 9: the one seed Wildcats, it wasn't even a game because

613
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 9: it really they cruised past four seed Arkansas final score

614
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Speaker 9: one on nine.

615
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 8: To eighty eight.

616
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 9: Wildcats had six players and then double digits. They shot

617
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Speaker 9: sixty four percent from the field. They are headed to

618
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Speaker 9: the ELI eight for the first time since twenty fifteen.

619
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Speaker 8: Two seed Perdue, Yes, two seed Perdue. Who that's who

620
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Speaker 8: they're gonna face.

621
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Speaker 9: But they survived with the last second tipp in and

622
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Speaker 9: won seventy nine to seventy seven against eleven seed Texas.

623
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Speaker 9: So the boiler Makers are headed to their seventh Elite

624
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Speaker 9: eight appearance.

625
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Speaker 8: It will be Perdue against Arizona.

626
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Speaker 4: You can go ahead and say Arizona probably gonna win

627
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 4: that game.

628
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Speaker 8: You can, Okay, you have to say that already.

629
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Speaker 4: Say, Arizona win that game, you can put that all right.

630
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Speaker 8: I'll think about it. I'll think about it. I'll write

631
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Speaker 8: it in my notes.

632
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 9: How about that three seed Illinois knocked off two ceed

633
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 9: Houston sixty five to fifty five, punching their ticket to

634
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Speaker 9: the Elite eighth. The Illinois they shot twenty one free

635
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 9: throws compared to Houston, who only shot two free throws,

636
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 9: which came after thirty four minutes of play. Houston also

637
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 9: shot thirty four percent from the field. They just struggled

638
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 9: the minute they came out. Nine seed Iowa had a

639
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Speaker 9: seventy seven to seventy one wait over four seed Nebraska.

640
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 9: The Hawkeys are headed to the Elite eight for the

641
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Speaker 9: first time since nineteen eighty seven. So it's gonna be

642
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Speaker 9: Iowa against Illinois next. When it comes to baseball, one

643
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 9: game is still going on on this opening date. It's

644
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Speaker 9: in Seattle and the Guardians lead the Mariners right now,

645
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 9: five to four. It is the bottom of the eighth inning.

646
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 9: The Dodgers already defeated the Diamondbacks.

647
00:32:58,160 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 8: Eight to two.

648
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 9: Will Smith picked up right where he left off left

649
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 9: off a two run shot. Will Smith at a two

650
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 9: run shot, couple of RBIs from Mookie Bets, Kyle Tucker.

651
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 9: Everybody was involved in that one. The Tigers defeated the

652
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Speaker 9: Padres eight to two. Trek Scooble pitched six innings, gave

653
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 9: up three hits, zero runs. Christopher Sanchez struck out ten

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Speaker 9: and six shutout innings as the Phillies took down the

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Speaker 9: Rangers five to three.

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Speaker 8: The Angel shut out the Astros three zero.

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Speaker 9: Blue Astros Mike Shot Homeward and on his opening day.

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Speaker 9: Cardinals came back to defeat the Rays nine to seven.

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Speaker 9: Saint Louis was down six runs and scored eight runs

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Speaker 9: in the eighth inning. The Mets started things off this

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Speaker 9: morning by taking down the Pirates eleven seven. Paul Skins

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Speaker 9: didn't make it through the first inning, but it wasn't

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Speaker 9: his fault. He allowed five runs on thirty seven pitches.

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Speaker 8: I don't know how how it's not an error.

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Speaker 9: Misjudging the ball O'Neil Cruz in the center field.

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Speaker 3: The old technicality of it didn't touch his good no matter.

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Speaker 5: If you're playing shortstop and the ball goes under your legs,

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Speaker 5: that's there.

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Speaker 4: Isn't it.

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Speaker 8: I think so if it went through your legs, I

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Speaker 8: believe so. Yeah, like he clear misjudged it.

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Speaker 9: He and then he got the sun in his eyes

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Speaker 9: and couldn't catch the next one.

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Speaker 3: That just means the score didn't like Paul the second one.

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Speaker 4: The second one should have been there or not the first.

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Speaker 3: One, first one. It's terrible misjudge. Yeah, no, they teach

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Speaker 3: you that in first grade.

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Speaker 8: Totally.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, first steps backward.

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Speaker 8: Absolutely, I'm with you. I am with you.

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Speaker 9: Jacob Mazerowski did strike out eleven and five inningsday as

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Speaker 9: the Brewers route at the White Sox fourteen to two.

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Speaker 9: Nationals took down the Cubs ten to four. Orioles edged

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Speaker 9: the Twins two to one, Red Sox blank the Reds

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Speaker 9: three zero. NFL News Yeah, Tom Brady told CNB C

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Speaker 9: NBC that he contemplated coming out of retirement, but the

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Speaker 9: NFL didn't like it very much when he looked into

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Speaker 9: his options. And when it comes to the NHL, the

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Speaker 9: Ducks did defeat the Flames, defeat the Flames three two

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Speaker 9: in overtime. Avalanche defeated the Jets three to two. Islanders

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Speaker 9: top the Stars two to one, Kracking beat the Lightning

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Speaker 9: four to three in overtime.

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Speaker 3: Back to you, guys, appreciate you Manzi where you find her,

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Speaker 3: check out everything she's got.

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Speaker 4: The lines her up by the way for Saturday.

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Speaker 3: Okay, we'll talk about that as we continue, as well

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Speaker 3: as the battle of a nickname. If you don't claim it,

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Speaker 3: it's there for everyone, even if we associate this particular

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Speaker 3: term with a veteran player. Also shameless plug brought to

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Speaker 3: go check out the leaderboard this guy. Oh no, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's right at Swollendome, at Stick and Genius one where

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Speaker 3: you find Arnie. Yeah. We'll talk about nicknames, copyrights, trademarks,

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Speaker 3: and owning your space. Next on Fox.

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Speaker 3: wrestling dot com. I don't know if you caught this

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Speaker 3: one ARREADYE, but Caleb Williams was trying to trademark Iceman.

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Speaker 3: I did this this moniker, Yeah, something that was conferred

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Speaker 3: upon him given all of the comeback issues and opportunities

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Speaker 3: afforded by the Bears. In other words, their defense wasn't

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Speaker 3: really good and put them in positions where he had

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Speaker 3: to be well nothing short of a miracle worker. Well,

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Speaker 3: I knew it would eventually pop up, because in popular

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Speaker 3: pop culture, and certainly basketball and sports culture at large,

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Speaker 3: we know there has long been an Iceman, and that's

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Speaker 3: George Gervin.

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Speaker 4: And he can figure roll. You understand that.

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Speaker 3: One thing I could do. His finger rolled nicely done.

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Speaker 3: One of the great commercials of our time. Go back

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Speaker 3: in the day now Gervin quote, I've got nothing but

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Speaker 3: respect for Williams. He's already proved his greatness and his

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Speaker 3: potential upside is great, like an Ice and Iceman. But

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00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 3: remember that name is taken saying you.

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Speaker 4: Want to buy it from me. But if you want

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Speaker 4: to buy it from me, no.

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Speaker 3: But that's the thing. He never trademarked it, so he

741
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Speaker 3: doesn't know it.

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Speaker 4: Wow, he never.

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Speaker 3: And that's where the problem is, it says he filed.

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Speaker 3: Four days after Williams filed, Gervin filed his applications for

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Speaker 3: Iceman and Iceman forty four. So Gerald BARISONA.

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Speaker 4: But nobody knows Williams Iceman. You know that well.

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Speaker 3: But you're you're trying to build your your legend, right,

748
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,919
Speaker 3: you're trying to build that into yourself. And if people

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Speaker 3: are gonna start making Chochke's t shirts and hats and

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00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 3: whatever else with that and your likeness, you want your

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00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 3: cut right, you want you want to protect it. You

752
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Speaker 3: want to make your money. It's like you know, Lebron

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Speaker 3: James calling himself king and things like that, and.

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Speaker 5: It doesn't make any money on that though, Lebron on

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Speaker 5: the word I'm.

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Speaker 3: King, on the king James merch how much.

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Speaker 4: Money you think he's making off merchandise.

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Speaker 3: It's greater than a dollar, and if it's greater than

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Speaker 3: a dollar, then it's worth your filing application.

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Speaker 5: Now, you know, it's giving yourself a nickname so you

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Speaker 5: could make some extra money. But it's like calling yourself

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Speaker 5: thinking genius.

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Speaker 3: Come on now, now, who would do such a thing.

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Speaker 3: By the way, the fact that we don't have a

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Speaker 3: full line of merch that we've concocted because you got

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Speaker 3: your Arnie's army Yep, yeah, all right, Malard's got his

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Speaker 3: militia that was.

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Speaker 4: In the NFL. Bill Arnsberger was Arnie's army.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Though, Like, there's there's opportunity

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Speaker 3: you should have your own online shop with your head

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Speaker 3: and maybe you're you know, wearing that sweat bands and

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Speaker 3: maybe maybe after a game is maybe you've got some

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Speaker 3: degenerate fans that would like to buy those sweat bands, headbands,

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Speaker 3: here's my you know, game sign goggles, all of those things.

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00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 3: Maybe there's a deal that you can get with somebody else.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, but you know, where there's a dollar

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Speaker 3: to be made and where you've got a reputation or

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00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 3: a nickname that's been conferred on you, you're looking around going, well,

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00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 3: I'd rather me and even if you give it all

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00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 3: the charity and again goes back to that what what

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00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 3: part of the pie chart is mine versus goodwill in that?

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00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 3: But the idea is, well, we could do something with

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Speaker 3: that money either for the betterment of me and the

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Speaker 3: people around me. Maybe we use it in the community

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Speaker 3: in the city, because Caleb William's done everything he can

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Speaker 3: to tear himself to the mighty of Chicago.

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Speaker 5: If you took a hundred calls and asked everybody, what's

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Speaker 5: Caleb Williams's nickname, nobody's saying the Iceman.

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Speaker 4: Nobody.

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Speaker 3: I think it's a recency bias though, And even if Chicago,

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Speaker 3: come on and in Chicago that's what they were. But

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Speaker 3: that's the thing. It started to grow into a thing

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Speaker 3: in Chicago as they piled up all those last minute wins,

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Speaker 3: so never heard of, which would also be why you'd

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Speaker 3: go and try the trademarket.

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Speaker 5: I understand why he's trying to do that. Just never

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Speaker 5: hurt anybody calling them the ice man.

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Speaker 3: I'm surprised you didn't try to be the cheerleader for that.

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Speaker 3: Maybe on Sunday you will. Now it's in they etched

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Speaker 3: in your brain. But certainly for you and I, and

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Speaker 3: and for people of a certain age and and acumen

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00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 3: and history with these sporting events. Yeah, George Gervin is

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Speaker 3: far and away the ice. Sure, I've got multiple signed

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00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 3: items that you know, little NBA mini balls that where

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00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 3: George Gervin immediately just puts ice under his name. You

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Speaker 3: don't even have to ask. It's part of his name,

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Speaker 3: his pot.

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00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 4: Remember the poster, isn't he sitting on a block of ice.

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00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 3: Holding the buddy? If I can get one of those originals,

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00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 3: remember those I need? Like, all of those are just fantastic,

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Speaker 3: the full run of them. A couple of years ago

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00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 3: at the Super Bowl, Warren Moon and Jim McMahon were

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00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 3: making appearances and they actually did many reproductions of those

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00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 3: as they went table to table. I have a stack

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Speaker 3: of them. I'll send them. I'll send you a pair

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00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 3: at Stick and Genius one where you find already find

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00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 3: me over at Swollen Dome. As we continue, we get

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Speaker 3: back into the NCAA Tournament, the Sweet sixteen. Well, now

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Speaker 3: we're down to twelve. Who joins them