WEBVTT - Patriots Unfiltered Draft Show 4/25: Day Three NFL Draft Coverage 0:00:04.440 --> 0:00:08.240 Welcome to the twenty twenty sixth Patriots Unfiltered Draft Show. 0:00:08.440 --> 0:00:11.239 The New England and Patriots Slide presented by Toyota is 0:00:11.280 --> 0:00:14.640 official website for deals by a Toyota dot Com. 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:21.800 All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered, our special draft extravaganza. 0:00:21.880 --> 0:00:26.320 It's Day three of the NFL Draft and it's Fred Kurge, 0:00:26.360 --> 0:00:30.640 Paul Torello, Evan Lazar, Mike do So. We'll be here 0:00:30.640 --> 0:00:34.440 for the next two hours at least, at least breaking 0:00:34.520 --> 0:00:40.680 down what's going on at most. So, Patriots made three 0:00:40.720 --> 0:00:44.040 picks yesterday. We'll go over them again. Right now, the 0:00:44.159 --> 0:00:47.000 NFL Draft is getting down to the end of the 0:00:47.040 --> 0:00:50.760 fourth round. I think there's two more picks left in 0:00:50.800 --> 0:00:53.760 the fourth round and then we're on to the fifth. Yeah, correct, 0:00:54.160 --> 0:00:56.400 where the Patriots have a couple picks. 0:00:56.240 --> 0:01:00.320 Right, just one one are seventy one right now, one 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:03.320 thirty nine. The Patriots will next select the next schedule 0:01:03.400 --> 0:01:05.960 to select at one to seventy one, right right, Yeah. 0:01:05.760 --> 0:01:07.600 They still have three six round picks. 0:01:07.800 --> 0:01:11.479 Yeah, yeah, they should happen pretty quick. 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:13.440 I mean one seventy one's package those. 0:01:13.280 --> 0:01:15.160 Three six is to get up in the fifth will 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:17.840 go two fifth rounds. Well I was looking at it 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:23.960 last night, the trade value chart as one does, and Welles. 0:01:23.240 --> 0:01:25.080 Trying to figure out sure it all added up. 0:01:25.440 --> 0:01:26.240 If they did want to. 0:01:26.240 --> 0:01:29.800 Give rid of these sixth round picks, dump the picks, 0:01:30.120 --> 0:01:33.720 as they say, uh, then maybe you know they they 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:36.760 if they did package two of their sixth round picks 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:38.680 with their fifth round pick, they could have gotten back 0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:41.440 into the fourth round. So you know, one of their 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:43.160 sixth round picks would get them to the top of 0:01:43.200 --> 0:01:46.000 the fourth of the fifth, maybe the very last pick 0:01:46.000 --> 0:01:47.920 of the fourth, top of the fifth, right in this range. 0:01:47.960 --> 0:01:50.920 So if they were interested in trading up, they they 0:01:50.920 --> 0:01:53.400 could do it right now. So stay tuned. 0:01:53.480 --> 0:01:55.240 Okay, that would be great because right now it feels 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:56.880 like you're watching the fray go by a little bit. 0:01:57.360 --> 0:02:00.320 Guys going off the big board. Definitely a player. 0:02:00.360 --> 0:02:03.120 Definitely feels like this is a top one fifty kind 0:02:03.160 --> 0:02:05.960 of draft. Like once you get outside of the top 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:08.640 one hundred and fifty picks, normally it starts to really 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:10.280 fall off a cliff, but in a draft like this, 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:11.919 I'd say it falls even harder. 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:14.440 On my back of the envelope, guys went, Yeah, the 0:02:14.480 --> 0:02:19.920 Bills took Juke Bowery alignment from BC should have been 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:20.520 a little closer to. 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:22.440 The front of the envelope then, now, you do you 0:02:22.480 --> 0:02:25.000 do expect your back of the envelope guys to all 0:02:25.000 --> 0:02:25.600 get drafted? 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:26.600 Right? Not necessarily. 0:02:26.600 --> 0:02:27.840 It's my favorite name of. 0:02:27.800 --> 0:02:31.239 The draft the Fijians Price Sock. Yes, I liked him, 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:34.600 like a name I should have named taj. This is 0:02:34.600 --> 0:02:38.520 a reading in the book, right, it's very biblical. But 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:39.919 you do expect all your back. 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:41.320 Of the envelope guys to get killed, right? 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:44.040 I don't. I don't think they all will. Oh no, 0:02:44.840 --> 0:02:45.120 you know. 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:47.800 My two except for the guys that have they had 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:50.400 the red flag, they might not get Jack Velling could 0:02:50.440 --> 0:02:53.880 be an undrafted free agent as well as Xavian Surrey Junior. 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:56.560 I mean, you're here today, freend, so maybe you can 0:02:56.600 --> 0:02:58.280 make some calls if he doesn't get drafted, you know, 0:02:58.320 --> 0:03:00.440 try to talk them some help. 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:03.280 That was one of the talked about last night where 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:07.160 they might miss Mike Rabel's presence is recruiter with the 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:09.200 U d F as like my I mean, Fred, I 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:10.239 think there's an opportunity. 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:14.320 But all kidding aside that that was interesting that Elliott 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:16.120 said that that it would be missed. 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:17.920 I did think that was interesting. That was one of 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:19.520 the things that I thought, you know, usually like the 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:21.240 boards kind of set, I would assume that, you know, 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:23.520 they can kind of pull the trigger. But Mike Rabel 0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:25.440 is a great salesman, and you hear all the players 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:28.920 they've already selected respond to him on the phone. Uh, 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:30.760 you know, I love I love what you know Lomu 0:03:30.800 --> 0:03:32.320 had to say about, you know, getting to meet him, 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:34.280 and he's a little aggressive, you know, kind of stand 0:03:34.320 --> 0:03:35.880 off with him. So that is something I think that 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:36.760 that could hurt a little bit. 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:38.080 But yeah, I mean, look. 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:39.840 At Elijah Ponder. You know, they got him as an 0:03:39.880 --> 0:03:43.640 undrafted rookie last year and he contributed a lot as 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:44.120 a rookie. 0:03:44.200 --> 0:03:46.880 All Right, so you've had a night to sleep on it. 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:49.440 I didn't really sleep Forred. I'm gonna be honest. That 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:51.800 coffee right before the show last night. I'm up on 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:54.080 my I know I was coming to Fred, but you 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:56.760 need to. I'm still ready. 0:03:56.680 --> 0:04:00.520 Your day after assessment of the first three picks for 0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:01.640 the New England Patriots. 0:04:01.800 --> 0:04:04.120 Yeah, I mean it's there's a lot to like about Rared, 0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:06.520 and I mean I think there's a lot comparable to 0:04:06.560 --> 0:04:09.600 Lomu and that there is some raw ability there, but 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:12.839 the athleticism again, and you know, I don't always going 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:14.600 back to that, but they've been drafting a lot of 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:17.800 really athletic guys, good size, good link. That was actually 0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:20.560 talking to Brian Hory. We're having a Patriots event here, 0:04:20.640 --> 0:04:22.560 watch party. Bunch of pups. If you're around the area, 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:24.520 get down there a lot of cute little dogs running around. 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:26.440 But you know, Brian Horry really liked the pick. He 0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:28.200 was telling me that, you know, he thinks he's gonna 0:04:28.200 --> 0:04:29.960 fit Josh McDaniel's offense. 0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:32.719 Really well, but probably needs to get a little. 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:35.680 Stronger, you know, continue to one, continue to grow up, 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:38.680 Kolby Young, is that what you're saying? Going so, yeah, 0:04:38.720 --> 0:04:40.599 I I like it. I'm excited to see him coming. 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:43.000 It's exactly the cos there you go. 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:48.040 Could you see the wheels turning? An even points to 0:04:48.080 --> 0:04:50.559 the screens. There's another one of Fred's guys, and Fred 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:53.240 looks and you see him thinking, is that one of. 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:54.920 My looks at his domble. 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:56.880 He actually has a back of the envelope, that is, 0:04:57.040 --> 0:04:59.120 it's not like a metaphor. 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:01.599 It actually is the back of the envelope. 0:05:01.160 --> 0:05:04.240 Real thing and then it cuts. That's one of my guys. 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:06.600 I remember all the guys he said. It's one of 0:05:06.640 --> 0:05:08.599 my favorite parts of the draft is hearing what you 0:05:08.640 --> 0:05:11.640 guys think. I spend way too much time on this, 0:05:11.680 --> 0:05:13.160 so I'm interested to hear it. 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:14.800 I just do a back of the envelope and I'm 0:05:14.839 --> 0:05:16.919 more accurate than one hundred percent and. 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:19.120 Nailed only kidding, Yeah, you nailed it. 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:22.000 But I'm I'm excited to see Raredan come into here 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:25.080 and see how he fits in. Wanted that third tight 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:27.360 end you can learn under Hunter Henry. But I think 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:30.120 he's got size, He's got big hands, and I think 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:32.080 that that could be a potential weapon in the red. 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:34.559 Und He could be well, he could be the hidden 0:05:34.880 --> 0:05:37.400 gem of this draft for the Patriots. 0:05:37.480 --> 0:05:39.440 Yeah, and I think what you're optimistic about with him 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:40.919 because I know a lot of people go back to 0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:44.039 the injuries and the tear and then retear of the 0:05:44.040 --> 0:05:47.240 same acl but that that happened in twenty twenty one 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:49.440 and twenty twenty two. You know, he played twenty eight 0:05:49.480 --> 0:05:53.159 straight games. I'd noted, damn without getting hurt. So hopefully 0:05:53.920 --> 0:05:56.680 the injuries are are in his rear view mirror, and 0:05:56.720 --> 0:05:59.520 he's beyond that now as a player, and obviously he 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:01.920 had to break out season last year, you know at 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:06.200 Notre Dame, So I maybe I would have picked different 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:08.560 guys in certain spots than they did. But there were 0:06:08.640 --> 0:06:13.360 so many different conversations of going tackle, edge, tight end. 0:06:13.520 --> 0:06:16.440 With their first three picks, felt like every mock draft 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:19.799 you saw was that combination in some order way, shape 0:06:19.880 --> 0:06:23.000 or form. So they they kind of in that respect 0:06:23.000 --> 0:06:25.279 wen Chalk and sort of did what we all wanted 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:28.000 them to do and expected them to do. You know, 0:06:28.279 --> 0:06:30.640 they took Raridon. You know at the end of the 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:33.080 third round, maybe I would have taken injuries from Texas, 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:35.839 but they took Rridon and like they probably will end 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:37.760 up being right about it. You know, he's probably will 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:39.920 be a better player. So I think in a lot 0:06:39.920 --> 0:06:43.440 of different cases they did sort of you can't be 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:46.080 mad at them at all, Like, yeah, because they did 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:49.400 what what we all wanted and expected, and then what 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:52.000 they were saying all off season were the priorities, and 0:06:52.279 --> 0:06:54.160 they went out and they attacked them. 0:06:54.240 --> 0:06:58.440 So if the aj Brown thing wasn't didn't seem to 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:01.840 be so likely. Do you think one of those three 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:05.800 might have been a wide receiver on more mock drafts 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:07.480 as we got closer to the draft. 0:07:08.480 --> 0:07:12.200 Maybe maybe sure, I think we crossed wide receiver. Maybe 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:13.920 not entirely off the list, but I would say the 0:07:13.960 --> 0:07:16.160 first two days I crossed it off the list, assuming 0:07:16.200 --> 0:07:19.760 it's going to be aj Brown. But keep going back 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:21.160 to the point that they have three guys that are 0:07:21.280 --> 0:07:24.600 for contract next year, talking about Booty, they do need 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:27.240 some other guys in the pipeline, so I wouldn't be 0:07:27.240 --> 0:07:29.760 surprised here if the right guy falls through the cracks. 0:07:30.000 --> 0:07:32.920 Everybody's saying how bad this draft is, Is there really 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:35.360 going to be much of a market for the undrafted guys. 0:07:35.360 --> 0:07:37.800 I'd assume that these six and seventh round picks are 0:07:37.880 --> 0:07:39.960 essentially going to be the guys who are usually that 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:41.760 quality of player of undrafted. 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:43.840 To the experts that a lot of them have said 0:07:44.120 --> 0:07:47.040 stuff like that Day three is going to be a 0:07:47.080 --> 0:07:50.480 struggle comparatively. Now, there's going to be good players that 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:53.320 get taken today. You know, there always are There always 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:55.560 are guys, you know, like Pooka Nakula that you know 0:07:55.600 --> 0:07:57.840 no one's really paying attention to, and all of a sudden, 0:07:57.880 --> 0:07:59.840 three years from now, you go, like, imagine they got 0:07:59.840 --> 0:08:02.280 that guy in the fifth round or whatever. You know, Yeah, 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:06.320 there's always, I mean always hidden guys. I'm curious on 0:08:06.320 --> 0:08:09.840 on Raridan. Is it rared in or is it just Rearden? Like, 0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:13.000 how do we rared in? I think so Okay, So 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:16.960 I'm not ready to just say he's a third tight end. 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:18.920 I'm like, I'm wondering if they're going if they're going 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:22.480 to use two tight end sets. Yeah, I mean, I 0:08:23.000 --> 0:08:24.640 I don't think it makes a lot of sense to 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:27.080 have Hill out there with with Hunter Henry. I think 0:08:27.080 --> 0:08:28.520 it makes more sense to have this guy out there 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:30.760 with Hunter Henry and have two guys that the defense 0:08:31.000 --> 0:08:33.160 necessarily has to pay attention to. 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:36.760 Yeah, I just I would say like tight end is 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:40.319 typically one of the slower developing positions from college to 0:08:40.360 --> 0:08:44.000 the NFL. Now, Notre Dame is a good tight end factory, 0:08:44.080 --> 0:08:46.400 and they maybe they're guys are a little bit more 0:08:46.440 --> 0:08:49.440 pro ready than the average and a college tight end 0:08:49.480 --> 0:08:53.640 their college prospect. But most of the time, tight end 0:08:53.679 --> 0:08:55.760 is a slower burn when it comes to develop. No, 0:08:55.800 --> 0:08:56.400 You're right about it. 0:08:56.440 --> 0:08:57.959 So I look at I think. 0:08:57.760 --> 0:09:00.480 That Rariden has a potential to have an imp because 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:03.520 of his vertical field stretching ability. That's an element that 0:09:03.960 --> 0:09:06.840 Henry and Hill. At this stage of Henry's career, he's 0:09:06.880 --> 0:09:10.280 not bringing the down the field threat that Raridan can bring. 0:09:10.400 --> 0:09:12.880 So you know, maybe he's one of those guys that, 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:15.640 you know, just like he did last year in college. 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:18.040 You know, he only had thirty two catches, but they 0:09:18.080 --> 0:09:20.480 went for fifteen yards of catch, which you know, I 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:23.280 like it, right, So you know, maybe he's only has 0:09:23.559 --> 0:09:27.040 twenty catches as a rookie, but he is able to 0:09:27.080 --> 0:09:29.720 break off some big plays and make an impact that way. 0:09:29.960 --> 0:09:33.200 I would just temper expectations that he's gonna step in 0:09:33.240 --> 0:09:36.000 and have like this huge role, No, because that doesn't 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:38.959 really usually happen at tight end unless you draft a 0:09:38.960 --> 0:09:40.679 guy like Tyler Warren or something like that. 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:42.080 In the fast I wouldn't expect that. 0:09:42.240 --> 0:09:45.840 I'm just I'm just looking ahead to some specific things 0:09:45.840 --> 0:09:49.800 that they did with like with Hooper and yeah, and Henry, 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:51.439 and I think that he can, you know, because I 0:09:51.480 --> 0:09:53.959 don't think Hooper had a huge role last year. No, 0:09:54.120 --> 0:09:56.240 but a couple of touchdowns, yeah, a couple of big 0:09:56.240 --> 0:09:58.520 plays like Evan just talked about, And you know, I 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:01.920 think maybe this guy the ability to do that. He's right, 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:04.359 Evan's right about I mean, even with Gronk and Hernandez. 0:10:04.840 --> 0:10:07.320 It took Gronk a little bit. You know, we're talking 0:10:07.360 --> 0:10:09.520 about one of the best, if not the best, to 0:10:09.600 --> 0:10:11.280 ever do it. It took him a little while to 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:14.360 get his feet wet. But it's usually the you know, 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:18.160 balancing the dual responsibilities because you're almost like another off 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:21.400 You're almost like a sixth offensive lineman and you're you know, 0:10:21.520 --> 0:10:24.280 like the fourth receiver, you know, at. 0:10:24.200 --> 0:10:24.880 The same time. 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:27.640 That's exactly and that's what makes that transition a little 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:28.240 more difficult. 0:10:28.320 --> 0:10:30.320 Well that's that's what makes me excited about him because 0:10:30.360 --> 0:10:32.880 I kind of made peace with a guy like delp 0:10:33.040 --> 0:10:35.720 or maybe he's never gonna be that guy, and that's okay, 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:37.480 that you can find a role for that guy. But 0:10:37.840 --> 0:10:39.440 the potential of rot and I, you know, I went 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:41.200 back to my notes of what I wrote about him, 0:10:41.200 --> 0:10:42.520 and I, you know, I felt like he had the 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:44.640 desire to block. I think he's maybe a better blocker 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:47.040 than some people are getting him credit for. But I 0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:50.800 think you can also get stronger and tougher and to 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:53.800 develop an all around tight end like that and You've 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:55.920 got the balance in front of him between Hill and 0:10:55.960 --> 0:10:58.160 Henry that you know, you don't have to do anything. 0:10:58.320 --> 0:10:59.520 An intriguing potential. 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:02.360 It's exactly what I wanted of We can just it's 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:04.000 when I said to Hoyer, I'm like, Josh can kind 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:05.200 of play with this kid a little bit. There's no 0:11:05.240 --> 0:11:07.640 pressure on him to have to come in and you know, look, 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:09.280 we're gonna let you play, but you better make sure 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:11.720 you're blocking well. You know, if there's not that, it's hey, 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:13.559 this is gonna be a package for you. We feel 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:15.240 like we can take advantage of your size down the 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:17.360 seam and you know, just the catch radius, the size 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:19.400 of the hands that I've been saying it all all 0:11:19.400 --> 0:11:22.199 spring appealing to me with Drake May who Drake May like. 0:11:22.840 --> 0:11:25.000 That's my favorite part about him as a player, Like 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:28.400 you have nearly eleven in chance, an eighty inch wingspan, 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:29.360 he's six foot. 0:11:29.200 --> 0:11:33.000 Six, he likes he's all of six foot six. 0:11:33.240 --> 0:11:35.120 You know, he's a seam runner. He runs a lot 0:11:35.160 --> 0:11:38.160 of deep crossing routes, he runs a lot of you know, 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:41.760 post corner type concepts, and he's just a big target. 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:44.080 He's a big, big target and you can just see 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:46.560 in your eye, you can just see Drake may just 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:48.280 kind of putting it on the platter for him and 0:11:48.400 --> 0:11:51.760 letting him use his size and you know, be a nice, big, 0:11:51.920 --> 0:11:56.000 friendly target for him between the numbers. But you know, 0:11:56.080 --> 0:12:00.720 I just I look at it as this year. I like, 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:02.520 you get a few big plays out of him, like 0:12:02.559 --> 0:12:04.920 I was talking about earlier, with his speed and with 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:08.000 his ability to stretch the field vertically. But really you're 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:10.520 drafting him because Hunter Henry's thirty one years old and 0:12:10.880 --> 0:12:13.960 you want a developmental player at that position. You want 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:18.040 to add somebody into the pipeline. With Akis, I think 0:12:18.040 --> 0:12:20.240 Agus is going to push for playing time right away. 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:23.480 I think Akis has a chance. And I love Harold Landry. 0:12:23.480 --> 0:12:26.360 I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but I think Accus 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:29.800 has a chance to be to surpass Harold Landry immediately 0:12:30.000 --> 0:12:33.160 pretty quickly. I agree as a rookie that that picked 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:35.760 you know, Lamu and rare it In feel more like 0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:39.880 long term development plays, which is what the draft is for. 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:42.560 Akus feels like the guy that is going to make 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:43.880 the biggest impact on this. 0:12:44.000 --> 0:12:48.520 Maybe they can sort of transition Landry to you know, 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:50.800 you know, we talk a lot about Morgan Moses. They 0:12:50.840 --> 0:12:53.120 have a plan for him, you know, is coming off 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:54.400 an injury. Maybe that's the. 0:12:54.320 --> 0:12:56.720 Plan, you know, get him a bunch of reps, can. 0:12:56.720 --> 0:12:59.600 Make him more of a part time player, and let 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:03.080 akin in Draymond Jones be the you know, sort of 0:13:03.080 --> 0:13:08.240 the every down you know, edge setting physical uh you know, yeah, 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:11.400 bull rush types as opposed to the speed rush types. 0:13:11.800 --> 0:13:13.400 I mean, there's a lot to ask for a rookie 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:15.600 second or pick. I'm not putting the cart before the horse, 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:18.480 but potentially I could see something like that. And what 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:20.559 I really like about the offense when you're talking about 0:13:20.559 --> 0:13:24.280 all this stuff you guys, is these are some of 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:27.240 the little chess pieces, like you said, Mike, that that 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:29.520 Josh can use with a kid like this, and then 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:31.920 you can go power with what they did in the 0:13:31.960 --> 0:13:35.719 off season, you know, like Barah Tucker, you know up 0:13:35.760 --> 0:13:39.360 front in front of Reggie Gilliam and Julian Hill. Yeah, 0:13:39.400 --> 0:13:42.200 you know, when you want to talk to you guys 0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:45.719 at the combine about wanting to be more wanted to 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:48.400 be more physical, wanted to be more consistent running the ball. 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:50.560 We've got to get stronger. Yeah, right, That's what he 0:13:50.559 --> 0:13:52.680 said to you guys. Yeah, so now they have the 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:53.760 opportunity to do that. 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:56.240 I've heard of the past though, that sometimes it's hard 0:13:56.280 --> 0:13:59.000 to do that for a linemen. It's like you're either 0:13:59.120 --> 0:14:01.679 the game plans there were going to fire out and 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:06.360 be running today or or not. And you know, it's 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:10.720 it's tough to make that transition within the game. Yeah, 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:12.480 you know, because it's a different mindset. 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:13.400 Yeah, you could see that. 0:14:14.280 --> 0:14:16.040 Yeah, we'll see. I also just I was. 0:14:15.960 --> 0:14:18.400 Looking back at you know, their rankings in the red 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:20.640 zone last year. I mean, they they peaked kind of 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:22.360 around the middle of the league, but basically they were 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:25.920 below average. I mean, you know, by Baltimore, they're twenty 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:27.600 six in the league in red zone offense. I mean, 0:14:28.280 --> 0:14:30.520 I wonder if Riden can help that number two because 0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:32.520 that's a place that I don't think they were. 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:35.320 All in his profile that I you know, as I've 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:38.040 dug deeper into the tape, you know, in the last 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:41.400 twelve hours, he only had three career touchdowns at Notre Dame. 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:44.680 He had zero last year, you know, in his big season, 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:46.480 and I was, you know, was it usage? 0:14:46.680 --> 0:14:46.960 Was it? 0:14:47.480 --> 0:14:47.600 Uh? 0:14:47.680 --> 0:14:49.520 You know, they just didn't feature him in the red 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:52.280 zone obviously they had those two running backs and they 0:14:52.400 --> 0:14:53.880 kind of just ran the ball in a lot of 0:14:53.920 --> 0:14:57.400 the time Jeremiah Love and and Price. But I was 0:14:57.440 --> 0:14:59.200 just looking at that and I thought that was weird, 0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:03.160 Like this six foot six, big tight end, pass catching 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:05.720 tight end with this huge catch radius and big hands, 0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:08.000 and like you'd think that that would be a mismatch 0:15:08.480 --> 0:15:10.520 kind of piece that you could use in the red zone. 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:13.040 And they didn't really use him. Interesting and that, but 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:14.680 not that he wasn't on the field, but it just 0:15:14.760 --> 0:15:18.600 wasn't He wasn't a featured red zone target. So maybe 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:21.280 there's untapped potential there. Yeah, you know, maybe there's more 0:15:21.280 --> 0:15:24.600 there that Notre Dame didn't do with him. You know, 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:27.400 that's part of the translation, you know. I would say 0:15:27.400 --> 0:15:30.280 the college game from a passing standpoint, with receivers and 0:15:30.360 --> 0:15:33.080 tight end is very different than the pro style game. 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:36.160 And they don't really feature the tight end in college 0:15:36.360 --> 0:15:39.480 as like a mismatch weapon like they do in the pros. 0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:41.640 They don't move him around as much, they don't hunt 0:15:41.680 --> 0:15:44.680 matchups as much with those guys. I'd say Notre Dame 0:15:44.720 --> 0:15:47.640 does it more than the average school in college, but 0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:50.120 for the most part, it's not. That's not what you're 0:15:50.120 --> 0:15:51.600 really trying to get out of that position. 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:54.640 Back to Akis, what did you think about how emotional 0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:57.640 he was in his call when he talked of Rabel 0:15:57.680 --> 0:15:59.120 and the owner and love it. 0:15:59.200 --> 0:16:02.280 I mean that doesn't like he like you just hear 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:05.880 so much about his violence and his physicality. You don't 0:16:05.880 --> 0:16:09.440 play like that if you're without emotion, right, like, you know, 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:12.120 like I feel like those two things go hand in hand. 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:15.160 He was a captain at Illinois, like a real leader 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:19.240 of that program. And I feel like you can't be 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:21.560 running through guys faces like he does. If you're not, 0:16:22.440 --> 0:16:24.800 you don't have that sort of attitude about you. So, 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:27.480 I mean him and Mike Rabel are like kindred spirit. 0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:30.560 It's like he just seemed like really grateful to have 0:16:30.640 --> 0:16:33.600 been taken. Yeah, and now that he's been taken, like 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:36.880 he said, you're gonna get everything I can give. 0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:38.800 From day, send me the playbooks, send me the playbook. 0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:41.400 I wonder if some of that too he lasted, you know, 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:44.520 like for him, you know, there were rumblings that he 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:47.640 was going to be a top forty, top fifty pick 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:50.600 easily when fifty five, so he waited a little bit 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:52.640 longer than maybe he was expecting. So maybe there was 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:55.040 a little bit of relief that you know, he finally 0:16:55.040 --> 0:16:56.200 did get drafted as well. 0:16:56.440 --> 0:17:03.560 Yeah, gabbitus that's his new names. All right, where are we? 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:05.720 We are picked five of the fifth five. 0:17:07.920 --> 0:17:10.639 They hold back. Yeah, this could go a lot faster 0:17:10.720 --> 0:17:13.240 if the league wanted it to. Sam hecked about twenty 0:17:13.240 --> 0:17:14.160 five twenty five. 0:17:14.600 --> 0:17:17.639 There's a handful of centers that have gone in the 0:17:17.720 --> 0:17:21.440 last like, you know, twenty picks or so that we're 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:24.800 all the centers that everybody has been talking about. Logan 0:17:24.880 --> 0:17:29.159 Jones went super early, but you know, Connor Lao, Sam Hacked, like, 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:31.040 those are the guys that a lot of people are 0:17:31.080 --> 0:17:33.679 talking about, is projecting them as starting centers. 0:17:33.680 --> 0:17:35.480 You know that I have a lot of the off 0:17:35.520 --> 0:17:38.479 the ball linebackers have gone. They have That's that's been 0:17:38.520 --> 0:17:40.600 a spot where you know a number of guys Jimmy 0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:45.000 Roller from Michigan we talked about. Uh, I don't think 0:17:45.000 --> 0:17:46.840 Perkins has gone yet, but you know that's just the 0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:51.200 spot we talked about day three. Wer Yeah, Betcher. 0:17:51.200 --> 0:17:55.399 Betcher, Yeah. Laws in Deantay Lawson from Alabama has injury 0:17:56.200 --> 0:17:58.960 red flags on him. Harold Perkins obviously had the A 0:17:59.080 --> 0:18:03.200 C L earlier on in his career at LSU justin Jefferson. 0:18:04.000 --> 0:18:06.280 You know, some people liked him Aiden Fisher, My guy's 0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:08.359 still there. He was like kind of the last I 0:18:08.400 --> 0:18:11.240 was a Betcher Roller Fisher. You know, those are the 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:14.040 three guys I was zooming in on. I like Perkins too, 0:18:14.119 --> 0:18:16.040 is just like a fun chess piece if you can 0:18:16.080 --> 0:18:18.359 figure him out. I mean, he's such a good athlete. 0:18:18.520 --> 0:18:20.000 If you can figure out what to do with him, 0:18:20.560 --> 0:18:22.480 then you know you might get a steal there. So 0:18:22.880 --> 0:18:26.199 they're looking for the guy that is more consistent and 0:18:26.359 --> 0:18:28.560 is just gonna kind of do the Robert Splane dance, 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:31.320 then that's probably like a Fisher if you're looking for 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:35.040 upside and potential than Perkins. Still being there is intriguing. 0:18:36.440 --> 0:18:39.760 Bob and Wilmington, North Carolina, writes Senate podcast at Patriots 0:18:39.800 --> 0:18:42.520 dot Com. He wants to know what's your favorite round 0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:43.640 of the draft? 0:18:44.080 --> 0:18:48.920 Second round? First, Well, the second round, because I think 0:18:48.960 --> 0:18:51.400 that's where you know. The first round you general generally 0:18:51.480 --> 0:18:53.439 know you know how guys are gonna go. But I 0:18:53.440 --> 0:18:56.719 think second round gets interesting, and I also think that's 0:18:56.760 --> 0:18:58.879 a time where you get a guy who might be 0:18:58.920 --> 0:19:01.520 devalued a little bit, but that still maybe they're coming 0:19:01.520 --> 0:19:03.840 off a bad year, maybe they had an injury. You 0:19:03.920 --> 0:19:05.359 have to take a little bit of a chance on 0:19:05.400 --> 0:19:08.000 a guy the first round. I love it, of course, 0:19:08.040 --> 0:19:09.959 but a lot of pressure on that player, you know, 0:19:10.000 --> 0:19:12.119 and to nail that player for the team. So I 0:19:13.000 --> 0:19:15.399 love Day two. I just that second and third round. 0:19:16.000 --> 0:19:17.960 Said it last night. That's where the rubber meets the road. 0:19:18.000 --> 0:19:18.640 That's the pick. 0:19:18.680 --> 0:19:20.280 Still, that's the heart of your draft. You've got to 0:19:20.320 --> 0:19:22.400 hit those ones. And you know, and to Paul's point, 0:19:22.440 --> 0:19:24.879 the Day three ones, this is where the great teams 0:19:24.920 --> 0:19:26.760 find players. This is you know, if you want to 0:19:26.760 --> 0:19:29.600 be consistently competitive in the NFL, you've got to find 0:19:29.640 --> 0:19:31.720 a couple of players almost every year on Day three. 0:19:32.000 --> 0:19:33.720 And that's what that's what the really good teams do. 0:19:33.880 --> 0:19:36.440 So you know, Patriots not No. Four fourth round pick. 0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:38.760 That's a little bit of a doughnut in their in 0:19:38.840 --> 0:19:41.679 their draft class this year. But you know, hopefully they 0:19:41.720 --> 0:19:43.600 have somebody here who falls through the cracks. But you know, 0:19:43.640 --> 0:19:44.919 to be honest, a lot of the guys that I 0:19:45.000 --> 0:19:46.919 love there, they're going fast and furious. 0:19:46.920 --> 0:19:48.520 Now, yeah, what's your favorite round. 0:19:48.640 --> 0:19:51.240 I would say day two, you know, even the fourth round, 0:19:51.280 --> 0:19:53.080 Like I think that's where you separate the men from 0:19:53.119 --> 0:19:55.399 the boys. Like everybody can draft in the first round, 0:19:55.520 --> 0:19:58.240 like if you're especially if you're high in the first round. 0:19:58.240 --> 0:20:02.040 You know, I look even at the Patriots, like you know, 0:20:02.119 --> 0:20:04.840 Drake May and Will Campbell, like you know, those guys 0:20:04.840 --> 0:20:08.120 are guys that are consensus great players, great prospects. 0:20:08.520 --> 0:20:12.440 Uh, you know, but you know, not everyone you know. 0:20:12.640 --> 0:20:14.440 And there's a lot of misses, right, And I think 0:20:14.480 --> 0:20:17.240 you get that. It's so exacerbated when you missed there, 0:20:17.640 --> 0:20:19.560 you know what I mean because of what Ever's saying, Like, 0:20:19.600 --> 0:20:22.280 these are the guys that everybody has rated, and if 0:20:22.280 --> 0:20:24.960 you miss some one of those, you know, there's a 0:20:25.040 --> 0:20:27.359 laundry list of offensive tackles that have missed in the 0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:29.080 first round over the last five years. 0:20:29.119 --> 0:20:31.760 You paid a big price the draft high in the 0:20:31.800 --> 0:20:34.679 first round, whether it's because you suck or you traded 0:20:34.720 --> 0:20:36.880 a lot of acids to get there. Miss. 0:20:38.000 --> 0:20:42.240 I just think the killer the real hardcore scouting is 0:20:42.520 --> 0:20:45.520 yesterday and today, right, Like, and the guys that I 0:20:45.520 --> 0:20:47.480 think the best teams, like Deuce was saying, are the 0:20:47.480 --> 0:20:49.679 ones that find the diamonds in the rough. You know, 0:20:49.760 --> 0:20:52.679 Paul mentioned Nikua earlier on the show. You know, the 0:20:52.720 --> 0:20:55.200 Patriots like you going back to it drafting Craig Woodson 0:20:55.240 --> 0:20:57.440 in the fourth round. You know, like that that sort 0:20:57.480 --> 0:21:00.520 of those sort of picks are huge. I mean that 0:21:00.520 --> 0:21:01.200 that's if. 0:21:01.080 --> 0:21:03.680 You're asking me what's more impressive? You know what's harder? 0:21:03.920 --> 0:21:06.119 Absolutely, you know when you're getting those Day two and 0:21:06.200 --> 0:21:09.640 Day three picks. When the when when all the consensus 0:21:09.640 --> 0:21:12.920 talent is gone? Because in the first round you're picking 0:21:12.920 --> 0:21:16.200 from consensus talented players. But now you've got to figure 0:21:16.240 --> 0:21:19.720 out the intangibles. You know, who has you know, the desire, 0:21:19.840 --> 0:21:22.440 you know who's who's in what what what player is 0:21:23.000 --> 0:21:25.320 important enough? And then who fits in your system and 0:21:25.520 --> 0:21:28.439 stuff like that, what's what's the better fit? Yeah, I 0:21:28.520 --> 0:21:34.439 just think first rounders the difference makers. Yeah, and that's why. 0:21:33.640 --> 0:21:34.320 Most of the time. 0:21:34.359 --> 0:21:36.000 But then I gravitate the talent. 0:21:36.000 --> 0:21:38.679 Most, Like if you're gonna throw Trey Lance at me, 0:21:38.800 --> 0:21:40.919 like I can throw Fred Warner at you, like you know, 0:21:41.119 --> 0:21:44.520 like there's guys like that that go you know later 0:21:44.560 --> 0:21:46.240 in the draft to the. 0:21:46.280 --> 0:21:48.399 Only reason I threw Trey Lance. You said it was 0:21:48.440 --> 0:21:50.880 easy to draft the first well. 0:21:51.960 --> 0:21:53.760 It's pretty easy. There's more. 0:21:54.520 --> 0:21:57.080 I would argue there's more Round one busts than there 0:21:57.080 --> 0:21:59.560 are Day three Fred Warner I was. 0:21:59.560 --> 0:22:01.240 Going to say, it's hard not to draft in the 0:22:01.240 --> 0:22:03.160 first round. It's hard not to draft the guy. And 0:22:03.480 --> 0:22:05.639 I wonder in some of these teams if it becomes 0:22:05.720 --> 0:22:07.400 kind of group thinking. It's you look at these mock 0:22:07.480 --> 0:22:10.360 drafts and they say, well, Trey Lance is the fourth quarterback, 0:22:10.400 --> 0:22:12.080 and everyone's got that, and do. 0:22:12.080 --> 0:22:12.920 We really love them? 0:22:13.000 --> 0:22:15.600 Like I don't know, but you know, like I, it's 0:22:15.640 --> 0:22:18.439 hard because these guys get slotted and you know, you're 0:22:18.440 --> 0:22:19.360 they're supposed to go there. 0:22:19.359 --> 0:22:20.720 But go back five years, look at the. 0:22:20.640 --> 0:22:24.160 First round, Paul's there's a handful of complete miss It's going. 0:22:24.160 --> 0:22:26.680 To be eight to ten guys that you say, eh, yeah, 0:22:26.720 --> 0:22:29.160 he's okay. And you and here's the here's the thing 0:22:29.200 --> 0:22:31.240 that happens to and it happens to me all the time. 0:22:32.680 --> 0:22:35.000 You know all those names because we're doing we do 0:22:35.160 --> 0:22:39.080 this every year, right, so you really remember those thirty 0:22:39.400 --> 0:22:42.840 forty names very well, you know, and then you look at, 0:22:42.880 --> 0:22:45.240 you know, the round five guys that are getting taken 0:22:45.280 --> 0:22:47.399 today right now, you know, a lot of these names 0:22:47.400 --> 0:22:50.960 are somewhat familiar to me because you know I but 0:22:51.000 --> 0:22:53.040 they'll go right out of my mind if they don't hit. 0:22:53.600 --> 0:22:56.199 Yeah, do you know what I mean? Whereas you know 0:22:56.600 --> 0:23:00.119 what I would just say, like if you say, you know, 0:23:00.160 --> 0:23:02.600 there's I don't know. It's usually like a fifty percent 0:23:02.760 --> 0:23:05.119 hit rate in the first round, and then once we 0:23:05.160 --> 0:23:08.160 get out of the first round, that drops off a cliff, right, yeah, 0:23:08.320 --> 0:23:10.320 and then once we get into Day three that drops 0:23:10.359 --> 0:23:13.000 off another play. Sure, So like at least in the 0:23:13.000 --> 0:23:15.800 first round, you're you're flipping a coin that you're probably 0:23:15.840 --> 0:23:17.440 going to hit on the player, and if you're good 0:23:17.480 --> 0:23:19.240 at it, you're in the And. 0:23:19.240 --> 0:23:22.359 The miss in the first round is usually not a 0:23:22.400 --> 0:23:25.640 guy who's like out of the league, unless you're less 0:23:25.840 --> 0:23:26.359 like the Raiders. 0:23:26.400 --> 0:23:29.480 At what point in the draft, it's more it's more 0:23:29.560 --> 0:23:33.760 it's better to be lucky than good, lucky than good, 0:23:34.040 --> 0:23:36.159 you know, like if you're hitting in fifth, sixth, and 0:23:36.240 --> 0:23:39.720 seventh round, is that more luck or is it really good? 0:23:39.720 --> 0:23:41.920 It's probably a coin flip between those two probably, to 0:23:42.000 --> 0:23:42.440 be honest. 0:23:42.560 --> 0:23:45.439 Yeah, And I would also say, like I know what 0:23:45.480 --> 0:23:48.400 your point is, but like if you do that consistently, 0:23:49.000 --> 0:23:50.360 you have a hard time calling. 0:23:50.160 --> 0:23:54.159 It luck, right, Yeah, Like, but who the Rams. 0:23:53.880 --> 0:23:57.560 Have consistently gotten like really high quality players outside of 0:23:57.560 --> 0:24:00.159 the first round, now out of necessity because they gave 0:24:00.160 --> 0:24:02.640 away so many of the first round picks, but they 0:24:02.680 --> 0:24:06.080 had that that slight up. Then one of the nights 0:24:06.080 --> 0:24:08.840 of the draft this weekend, and there was like eight 0:24:08.880 --> 0:24:11.680 guys on that board. None of them were first round picks, 0:24:12.359 --> 0:24:14.679 you know, and they're all, you know, household names for 0:24:14.720 --> 0:24:18.160 everybody who watches Rams games like that, At some point, 0:24:18.160 --> 0:24:20.520 it's not luck. Now if you just you know, you 0:24:20.680 --> 0:24:22.679 picked Tom Brady in the sixth round, there's an element 0:24:22.680 --> 0:24:25.720 of fortune to that. I'm not trying to be silly 0:24:25.760 --> 0:24:28.800 about it. But when you get good, when you get 0:24:28.800 --> 0:24:31.320 Craig Woodson's yeah, I would say I have a hard 0:24:31.320 --> 0:24:34.160 time calling that luck through four. 0:24:34.440 --> 0:24:36.840 Like, I'm not talking about the back end of the third. 0:24:37.000 --> 0:24:38.800 I don't think they were lucky to get Craig Woodson. 0:24:38.800 --> 0:24:40.159 I think they identified something that. 0:24:40.720 --> 0:24:43.520 Guy like Julian Edelman, that's that's that's a lot. They 0:24:43.600 --> 0:24:46.720 saw something in him because he was it was a quarterback. 0:24:46.880 --> 0:24:48.520 They knew he wasn't going to be a quarterback. 0:24:48.640 --> 0:24:50.960 Ye, Bill had no idea and he is. He's admitted 0:24:50.960 --> 0:24:52.840 it as much. He had no idea what he wanted 0:24:52.840 --> 0:24:53.040 to do. 0:24:53.480 --> 0:25:00.760 Some yeahpetitor driving him, we can do something with that. 0:25:01.000 --> 0:25:03.840 It's interesting what it is, right, well, I think that's 0:25:03.840 --> 0:25:06.960 the feeling in these later rounds is what's the one trait? Like, 0:25:07.080 --> 0:25:09.160 is there one trait? Does he have great size? Does 0:25:09.200 --> 0:25:11.320 he have great speed? Does he have great quickness? And 0:25:11.359 --> 0:25:13.120 then see if we can build around them. 0:25:13.160 --> 0:25:15.280 Yeah, it's interesting. I think that, you know, the Julian 0:25:15.359 --> 0:25:18.040 Edelman's are probably trailblazers in this regard. But like you 0:25:18.080 --> 0:25:21.000 see so many of these guys when you're doing research 0:25:21.040 --> 0:25:24.280 on these players that work quarterbacks and they actually just 0:25:24.400 --> 0:25:28.400 make the switch in college now you know, like so yeah, yeah, 0:25:28.480 --> 0:25:30.960 so it's no yah Stowers was one of them. It's 0:25:31.000 --> 0:25:33.600 no longer the Julian Edelman route of Oh he was 0:25:33.640 --> 0:25:36.000 a college quarterback all the way through and then he 0:25:36.040 --> 0:25:38.679 becomes a wide receiver. So I bet you you know, 0:25:38.840 --> 0:25:41.080 it's probably a little bit to do with Edelman's success 0:25:41.119 --> 0:25:43.240 and you know why that happened sooner. But you know, 0:25:43.320 --> 0:25:45.520 Jacobe Myers is one of those guys. He started as 0:25:45.520 --> 0:25:48.840 a quarterback and then he switched in college to wide receivers, 0:25:48.840 --> 0:25:51.240 so you see that lesson less now that they position 0:25:51.320 --> 0:25:52.880 switches once you get to the league. 0:25:53.040 --> 0:25:55.040 Mike and Brooklyn writes and he wants to talk about 0:25:55.119 --> 0:25:57.359 Raret and he says, I've watched every down and game 0:25:57.400 --> 0:25:59.800 he played at Notre Dame. Nice, my wife of twelve 0:26:00.320 --> 0:26:03.399 is a Notre Dame alumnus, so we don't make plans 0:26:03.440 --> 0:26:06.360 on Saturdays in the fall, we watch the Irish. He's 0:26:06.400 --> 0:26:08.919 gonna be good. He is too tall to block with 0:26:09.000 --> 0:26:11.919 a lot of power, but as a crazy athlete, and 0:26:12.000 --> 0:26:15.560 Notre Dame used his speed and lengthy have him get 0:26:15.800 --> 0:26:18.560 to key places in the run game. He and Lomu 0:26:18.720 --> 0:26:21.560 give them a lot of flexibility in how they can block. 0:26:21.600 --> 0:26:24.000 In the run game at Notre Dame, is ranged to 0:26:24.000 --> 0:26:27.160 get really wide or to the second third level, helped 0:26:27.200 --> 0:26:29.679 spring a ton of big runs for love and price. 0:26:30.240 --> 0:26:32.720 With an athlete like Lomu and May being a run 0:26:32.760 --> 0:26:36.240 threat and the speed Henderson has, I think they're building 0:26:36.280 --> 0:26:40.080 a run game built around space and athleticism, not power, 0:26:40.440 --> 0:26:43.040 and it's really exciting. Really want to know what Evan 0:26:43.080 --> 0:26:43.600 thinks of this? 0:26:43.880 --> 0:26:46.840 Yeah, I mean that's definitely a lot of good points 0:26:47.080 --> 0:26:49.639 I think with Reard and you know his blocking tape, 0:26:49.640 --> 0:26:51.679 he's definitely at his best when he can get some 0:26:51.760 --> 0:26:54.320 momentum into the blocks, whether it's in space orts up 0:26:54.359 --> 0:26:56.879 to the second level, or you know, down blocking on 0:26:56.920 --> 0:26:59.800 the line of scrimmage, where he's using his athleticism to 0:26:59.880 --> 0:27:02.080 like create power. You know, if you ask him to 0:27:02.080 --> 0:27:04.440 just sit there and dig out somebody, you know, at 0:27:04.440 --> 0:27:07.200 the point of attack, he doesn't really have the raw 0:27:07.600 --> 0:27:09.960 strength and the you know, the power to kind of 0:27:09.960 --> 0:27:12.840 displace that defender. But if you give him some momentum, 0:27:12.840 --> 0:27:15.440 like he was really good at inserting like up through 0:27:15.480 --> 0:27:17.199 the middle of the line of scrimmage, up to the 0:27:17.200 --> 0:27:19.800 linebackers at the second level and kind of almost like 0:27:19.880 --> 0:27:22.359 a full back, you know, leading through the whole, so 0:27:22.480 --> 0:27:24.840 to speak. So there was a lot of different movement 0:27:24.880 --> 0:27:27.040 blocks that I thought were impressive. And you know, when 0:27:27.040 --> 0:27:29.240 we talked to Elliott Wolf yesterday, you know, that's what 0:27:29.280 --> 0:27:32.160 he said. He said, they want athletes on the offensive 0:27:32.200 --> 0:27:34.720 line that they want to be a little bit more athletic, 0:27:34.800 --> 0:27:36.920 and you know, with that is going to probably come 0:27:36.960 --> 0:27:40.840 with finesse. You know, like that's just naturally a side 0:27:40.840 --> 0:27:45.040 effect of getting guys that are good athletes, but they'll 0:27:45.119 --> 0:27:48.040 be fun. I mean, if they they're all of a 0:27:48.080 --> 0:27:50.879 sudden a you know, more of like a spread space 0:27:50.960 --> 0:27:53.080 team and Drake Mays and the shotgun a lot and 0:27:53.119 --> 0:27:55.920 he's surveying and doing his thing like that, that would 0:27:55.920 --> 0:27:57.320 be a fun brand of football to watch. 0:27:58.160 --> 0:28:00.320 Okay, Anthony and Seattle says, take a. 0:28:00.320 --> 0:28:02.240 Lot of excitement out of the draft with that whole 0:28:02.280 --> 0:28:03.879 run oriented thing. 0:28:04.640 --> 0:28:06.560 Kind of bummed me out a little bit. Why so, 0:28:06.600 --> 0:28:07.840 I don't want to be a running team. 0:28:08.040 --> 0:28:09.720 They don't want to be a running team. They're drafting 0:28:09.760 --> 0:28:11.680 all these athletes because they don't want to move the ball. 0:28:11.800 --> 0:28:12.840 I want to score. 0:28:13.040 --> 0:28:15.000 Yeah, well, I want to move the ball and score. 0:28:15.119 --> 0:28:16.240 Mike, how do you score. 0:28:17.840 --> 0:28:18.120 To score? 0:28:18.200 --> 0:28:18.600 Run to win? 0:28:18.840 --> 0:28:18.959 Well? 0:28:19.400 --> 0:28:21.720 What was the thing when I asked Elliot Wolf about 0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:22.200 the athlete. 0:28:22.280 --> 0:28:23.920 I'm being starcastic, everybody. 0:28:23.960 --> 0:28:26.879 The number one thing that he said was pass blocking, 0:28:26.920 --> 0:28:28.920 because we have a quarterback that's going to drop back 0:28:28.920 --> 0:28:31.480 to pass a lot. That was his number one thing. 0:28:31.640 --> 0:28:33.720 And then he got into some of the multiplicity in 0:28:33.720 --> 0:28:34.240 the run game. 0:28:34.359 --> 0:28:38.040 And I understand like Rabel's thing about being more consistent 0:28:38.040 --> 0:28:40.240 in the running game with some with some ability to 0:28:40.360 --> 0:28:42.840 run when you need to run a little bit more effectively. 0:28:42.840 --> 0:28:46.040 I'm all for that, because that's Mike's cliche. Yeah, that's 0:28:46.080 --> 0:28:48.880 when you when you run to win, like you throw 0:28:48.920 --> 0:28:51.160 the score and you run to win. I know that's 0:28:51.160 --> 0:28:53.960 a cliche, but there's a lot of validity to that. 0:28:54.880 --> 0:28:59.080 I would just say that where I differentiate with the 0:28:59.120 --> 0:29:03.440 blocking element with the tight end position. When you're blocking 0:29:03.480 --> 0:29:05.960 out in space and you're blocking up on the move 0:29:06.240 --> 0:29:09.240 and you're getting the tight end on linebackers and defensive backs, 0:29:09.840 --> 0:29:12.600 like it's cool to watch that, and like there's there's 0:29:12.760 --> 0:29:15.520 value to that. That doesn't really make him a blocker 0:29:15.800 --> 0:29:18.320 in my opinion, like a a guy that's a blocker 0:29:18.400 --> 0:29:19.760 is a guy that puts his hand in the dirt 0:29:19.920 --> 0:29:20.720 and can block. 0:29:20.520 --> 0:29:22.280 Any more of a guy who gets in the way 0:29:22.360 --> 0:29:23.560 and outside linebacker. 0:29:23.720 --> 0:29:26.600 You did that for them last year was Mac Hollins. 0:29:26.680 --> 0:29:29.200 Yeah right, he was a big time He was really 0:29:29.200 --> 0:29:31.800 a slot tight end who blocked for them in those 0:29:31.880 --> 0:29:32.560 kinds of situations. 0:29:32.600 --> 0:29:34.040 Yeah, And there's nothing I'm not you could do that 0:29:34.200 --> 0:29:36.920 saying that it's a bad thing. I'm just saying, you know, 0:29:36.960 --> 0:29:39.440 when we start talking about guys that are true blocking 0:29:39.480 --> 0:29:41.640 tight ends. I think of the inline guys like Gronk 0:29:41.680 --> 0:29:43.560 that had to hand in the dirt, and like Gronk 0:29:43.560 --> 0:29:45.920 could take a three hundred and five pound defensive end 0:29:45.960 --> 0:29:48.360 and block them. I don't think Raridan is going to 0:29:48.440 --> 0:29:49.280 be that kind of guy. 0:29:49.840 --> 0:29:52.760 Anthony ciliss I agree with Evan Induced. I think you 0:29:52.760 --> 0:29:55.000 can make up for a first round miss with second 0:29:55.040 --> 0:29:56.200 and third round hits. 0:29:56.680 --> 0:30:01.640 Yeah, I don't. Well, still miss on your first round pick. 0:30:01.640 --> 0:30:03.040 You're not getting blue chip talent. 0:30:03.200 --> 0:30:05.000 Yeah, that's I mean the exception will be if you 0:30:05.040 --> 0:30:07.120 somehow you know, I'm blue chip talent in those second 0:30:07.160 --> 0:30:07.880 and I mean you. 0:30:07.800 --> 0:30:09.280 Can do that once in a while. But you're not 0:30:09.280 --> 0:30:11.960 getting consistent blue chip talent beyond the. 0:30:11.880 --> 0:30:13.840 First right, Like maybe the acceptable thing is you got 0:30:13.840 --> 0:30:16.640 a solid player, but not you know, but if you 0:30:16.680 --> 0:30:18.200 have good players throughout the draft. 0:30:18.240 --> 0:30:21.480 But like, there's a reason why when you look back 0:30:22.000 --> 0:30:24.560 at the Hall of Fame and you go by round, 0:30:24.640 --> 0:30:26.480 there's the reason why they're almost all first round. 0:30:26.800 --> 0:30:32.400 Right, sure talent, let's go to the phones eight five five, 0:30:32.480 --> 0:30:34.040 pats five hundred, Fred, you. 0:30:34.120 --> 0:30:37.280 Lost your chance to get Justin Jefferson. All these years later, 0:30:38.480 --> 0:30:39.240 he went back into. 0:30:39.120 --> 0:30:40.880 The draft times. Yeah, as a linebacker. 0:30:40.960 --> 0:30:45.400 Interesting, Let's go to Dorchester where Butcher's what's up this 0:30:45.520 --> 0:30:46.440 Butch turns. 0:30:47.160 --> 0:30:50.880 Big guys looking at talk linebacker here. I feel like 0:30:50.960 --> 0:30:52.840 every year, even going back to the end of the 0:30:52.840 --> 0:30:57.160 Belichick days, we're looking for some solution here at inside linebacker, 0:30:57.200 --> 0:30:59.960 and it seems like, you know, these guys are available 0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:03.520 around three to five, and they're relatively cheap and free agency, 0:31:04.000 --> 0:31:06.280 and we just you know, seem to be putting a 0:31:06.320 --> 0:31:09.240 band aid on the situation here instead of you know, 0:31:09.360 --> 0:31:12.680 sort of building long term. So we got Splaine and 0:31:12.800 --> 0:31:15.200 right now, I'd say Alice is starting next to him, 0:31:15.520 --> 0:31:19.680 and I'm not really sold on Ellis. You know, Gibson's gone, 0:31:19.760 --> 0:31:22.560 and I actually really liked Gibson for what they asked 0:31:22.600 --> 0:31:25.440 him to do. kJ Britt, you know, kind of feels 0:31:25.440 --> 0:31:29.040 like an upgrade over Gibson a little, and you know, 0:31:29.080 --> 0:31:32.640 I never really thought to buy was was what we needed. 0:31:32.720 --> 0:31:37.160 He was a liability and coverage. All signs point towards 0:31:37.200 --> 0:31:39.640 the Missouri kid. We'll see if he's there when when 0:31:39.680 --> 0:31:42.840 we're up. I kind of like the Byu kid. But 0:31:43.080 --> 0:31:45.760 you know, are they starters or do we have to 0:31:45.800 --> 0:31:49.400 look to free agency, and you know, Matt Milano's still 0:31:49.400 --> 0:31:52.640 out there, maybe a veteran incentive laden deal. We can 0:31:52.640 --> 0:31:54.600 cut him if it doesn't work type of thing. You know, 0:31:54.680 --> 0:31:56.280 what are we doing in linebacker here? 0:31:56.560 --> 0:31:59.280 Yeah? Okay, lineback? Is it getting harder and harder to 0:31:59.320 --> 0:32:00.800 find good line Well? 0:32:00.840 --> 0:32:03.080 I would just say that the position itself as a 0:32:03.120 --> 0:32:05.680 whole has been devalued. And when we talked to Elliott 0:32:05.680 --> 0:32:08.280 Well before the draft and the pre draft press conference, 0:32:08.320 --> 0:32:11.040 he highlighted Day three as a sweet spot in this 0:32:11.080 --> 0:32:14.840 particular class for linebackers. So they have five more picks 0:32:14.880 --> 0:32:16.840 to make today and I fully expect one of them 0:32:16.920 --> 0:32:19.400 at least to be a linebacker. Now, maybe it's not 0:32:19.480 --> 0:32:21.480 the value that the caller is looking for in terms 0:32:21.480 --> 0:32:23.959 of immediate impact and all that kind of stuff, but 0:32:24.800 --> 0:32:29.120 you know, I think that they're looking for linebackers today, 0:32:29.440 --> 0:32:32.080 and I'm sure even at one seventy one they might 0:32:32.160 --> 0:32:34.360 end up coming out with a linebacker at that bit. 0:32:34.560 --> 0:32:36.360 I totally hear the call, though, I mean, it's a 0:32:36.360 --> 0:32:38.760 concern of mine. There's only so much you can do 0:32:38.800 --> 0:32:41.040 in the draft. There's only so many, you know, talented 0:32:41.080 --> 0:32:43.520 pieces that you can get. But you know, if Spain 0:32:43.600 --> 0:32:45.560 r Ellis gets hurt. And I mean I like Ellis, 0:32:45.600 --> 0:32:47.479 I don't. I'm not in love with Elis. I think 0:32:47.520 --> 0:32:50.400 he's okay to holdover. I mean, they wanted to keep 0:32:50.440 --> 0:32:53.120 him and he had moments, yeah, but I think ultimately 0:32:53.120 --> 0:32:55.200 he's not the kind of game changer, you know, and 0:32:55.400 --> 0:32:58.200 Speling's a little older, and it's just when you look 0:32:58.240 --> 0:33:02.080 at that, it could be an achilles heel form given 0:33:02.160 --> 0:33:04.440 it snaps in a reserve role last year. 0:33:04.520 --> 0:33:07.240 I'm not sure. kJ Britt. You know, we'll find out. 0:33:07.280 --> 0:33:09.240 I don't know much about I'm not saying that he's 0:33:09.240 --> 0:33:12.400 not that, but I'm not He hasn't played that much defense, 0:33:13.200 --> 0:33:15.200 so maybe he can come in and do exactly what 0:33:15.200 --> 0:33:17.720 Gibbons did or more, and then at least. 0:33:17.480 --> 0:33:18.480 You have some depth there. 0:33:18.960 --> 0:33:21.840 But I would be surprised if they didn't find, you know, 0:33:21.880 --> 0:33:30.240 another piece. What are the guys I mean, but a 0:33:30.320 --> 0:33:32.200 kid that got hurt at l s U. Yeah, I 0:33:32.640 --> 0:33:35.640 just I wouldn't be opposed to taking a flyer on that. 0:33:35.840 --> 0:33:39.480 I'm lying. I I don't like I'm kind of probably 0:33:39.520 --> 0:33:41.240 say this all the time about other positions. I do 0:33:41.320 --> 0:33:42.880 linebacker on your own time, Well. 0:33:42.880 --> 0:33:45.640 That's like you say, this whole thing with like the 0:33:45.680 --> 0:33:49.200 position's been devalued. Just go right down to like how 0:33:49.200 --> 0:33:52.080 many are on the field. Like when when I started, 0:33:52.160 --> 0:33:54.680 when I started doing this, they had four linebackers on 0:33:54.720 --> 0:33:56.440 the field at all times. Now that you're lucky if 0:33:56.480 --> 0:33:58.479 there's more than two, right, I mean, you need in 0:33:58.480 --> 0:34:01.840 my opinion, you need three linebacks. You want one guy 0:34:01.920 --> 0:34:04.600 like Robert Spulaane who's kind of your anchor at that position. 0:34:04.960 --> 0:34:07.360 You're going to play some standard nickels, so you're going 0:34:07.440 --> 0:34:10.279 to have a second linebacker like Ellis playing next to him. 0:34:10.520 --> 0:34:12.800 And then you want a super sub like Jack Gibbons. 0:34:12.800 --> 0:34:16.480 But even Jack Gibbons was like a spot starter and 0:34:16.560 --> 0:34:18.480 really and a special teamer. 0:34:18.320 --> 0:34:21.440 Like that is going to have to be a special team, right. 0:34:21.280 --> 0:34:23.840 And so like that that role in itself is also 0:34:24.320 --> 0:34:28.319 you know, ninety percent kicking game anyways, you know the 0:34:28.400 --> 0:34:32.120 sideline the sideline linebacker thing, like on third down, they're 0:34:32.120 --> 0:34:33.840 they're going to put an extra defensive back on the 0:34:33.840 --> 0:34:36.120 field and you're not going to have that guy in coverage. 0:34:36.120 --> 0:34:37.840 Like I know what we concerned I would have is 0:34:38.320 --> 0:34:42.080 because Robert Sperlane plays so many plays if something were 0:34:42.080 --> 0:34:43.400 to happen you lost him, Yeah. 0:34:43.280 --> 0:34:45.520 On the stretch last year made a difference, and. 0:34:45.600 --> 0:34:48.440 I and I do think, you know, I do think 0:34:48.480 --> 0:34:50.520 Gibbons did a good job of filling in for him, 0:34:50.600 --> 0:34:52.400 and I, you know, I don't know that they have 0:34:52.560 --> 0:34:55.239 the ability to do that. Yeah, now, you know, maybe 0:34:55.320 --> 0:34:58.759 they do. Maybe Britain is that maybe Christian Ellis is 0:34:58.760 --> 0:35:00.719 a little bit better this year and second year or 0:35:00.719 --> 0:35:01.320 this system. 0:35:01.600 --> 0:35:03.840 I still think some of the linebackers that are available 0:35:03.880 --> 0:35:06.560 can play. You know, I think, like I said earlier, 0:35:06.600 --> 0:35:10.400 this this class was touted as this is the sweet 0:35:10.480 --> 0:35:13.319 spot for the linebackers. And that doesn't mean I'm not 0:35:13.360 --> 0:35:15.400 saying that as in like they're all it was a 0:35:15.440 --> 0:35:18.520 bad year for linebackers. Actually a really deep year for linebackers. 0:35:19.200 --> 0:35:21.000 It just you know, they they a lot of them 0:35:21.080 --> 0:35:23.239 happened to grade out in like this fourth or fifth 0:35:23.320 --> 0:35:25.520 round range. So I still think that there's a lot 0:35:25.560 --> 0:35:28.040 of options of guys that they could get that could 0:35:28.080 --> 0:35:31.200 at least be that third guy like Jack Gibbons was. 0:35:31.280 --> 0:35:33.959 Maybe he's not going to replace Robert Spuline. Maybe they're 0:35:34.000 --> 0:35:36.719 they're not doing that quite yet, But I think there's 0:35:36.800 --> 0:35:38.560 like four or five guys that you know, I thought 0:35:38.840 --> 0:35:40.160 were solid players. 0:35:40.440 --> 0:35:42.919 I wonder about the tavaiavit all too, because he never 0:35:42.960 --> 0:35:45.439 really seemed to fit entirely what they did. They found 0:35:45.440 --> 0:35:47.160 a role for him kind of as a stand up 0:35:47.160 --> 0:35:49.560 strong side guy. I mean, they'll stand up Landry, you know, 0:35:49.560 --> 0:35:51.799 I'm sure they'll stand up Draymond Jones to make that 0:35:51.840 --> 0:35:55.040 third linebacker. But there's no obvious third linebacker right now. 0:35:55.080 --> 0:35:57.640 I mean, I feel like Britt is more inside kind 0:35:57.680 --> 0:36:00.360 of a guy. Do they even want that position? But 0:36:00.400 --> 0:36:02.040 I just I think back two years ago, I thought 0:36:02.080 --> 0:36:04.279 that was kind of the poster child for when you 0:36:04.320 --> 0:36:06.680 don't have linebackers who can get off blocks or get 0:36:06.680 --> 0:36:09.560 around blocks and make plays, and teams are just grinding 0:36:09.600 --> 0:36:12.279 you to death. And you paid. You pointed out when 0:36:12.280 --> 0:36:14.320 Spolen got hurt like twice, and it was weird. 0:36:14.360 --> 0:36:16.879 And that year that you're talking about two years ago, 0:36:16.920 --> 0:36:17.480 they were terrible. 0:36:17.480 --> 0:36:18.160 Bentley got hurt. 0:36:18.160 --> 0:36:20.040 Bentley got hurt, right, yep, And all of a sudden, 0:36:20.080 --> 0:36:24.400 that right, and I'm saying, and if something were to 0:36:24.440 --> 0:36:27.200 happen to Splaine, I'm not sure that you'd just be okay, 0:36:27.320 --> 0:36:28.719 I mean, right, no, me neither. 0:36:28.760 --> 0:36:30.560 I mean, he just talks so much about how he 0:36:30.600 --> 0:36:33.640 makes everybody right and he's the communicator, and I mean, 0:36:33.719 --> 0:36:35.520 don't even talk about the energy that he brings. 0:36:35.560 --> 0:36:37.160 But but where were they going to Like, if they 0:36:37.160 --> 0:36:38.480 were going to do that, they would have had to 0:36:38.520 --> 0:36:39.480 have done it last night. 0:36:39.680 --> 0:36:42.640 Yeah, and one of you guys, one of you guys 0:36:42.680 --> 0:36:45.640 made the point, like you can't just do everything right now. 0:36:45.760 --> 0:36:48.040 I was listening to one of your shows this morning, Paul, 0:36:48.719 --> 0:36:52.880 and this is my show, and the kid was, you know, 0:36:52.960 --> 0:36:57.319 talking about tackle, saying, you know, he wasn't crazy about 0:36:57.360 --> 0:36:59.880 the pick. But you know, last year they went into 0:36:59.880 --> 0:37:02.960 the season with no plan. The ste this is the 0:37:03.000 --> 0:37:06.440 achilles heel this team. They they don't have a plan. 0:37:07.320 --> 0:37:10.360 And as if, like every year you can address every need, 0:37:11.200 --> 0:37:11.920 you just can't. 0:37:12.000 --> 0:37:15.600 So I'm curious about this. What did he. 0:37:15.600 --> 0:37:17.200 Mean, like a plan for tackle? 0:37:17.880 --> 0:37:18.320 The plan? 0:37:19.239 --> 0:37:21.640 The plan this year was as plan as the nose 0:37:21.680 --> 0:37:24.160 in your face. The plan in the draft. Havevn't said 0:37:24.160 --> 0:37:26.000 it right at the top of the show. I mean, 0:37:26.200 --> 0:37:29.719 you ask any Patriots fan what their top three needs were, 0:37:29.760 --> 0:37:36.240 and in some order, it was tackle, edge, tight end. Right, Yeah, 0:37:36.320 --> 0:37:38.520 those are the three needs. You know, everybody kind of 0:37:38.560 --> 0:37:39.680 assumed they were going to get a J. 0:37:39.800 --> 0:37:40.600 Brown. So it was. 0:37:40.640 --> 0:37:44.480 Tackle edge tight end and they did it like that's 0:37:44.480 --> 0:37:45.000 not a plan. 0:37:45.200 --> 0:37:46.960 Yeah, I'm going. 0:37:46.960 --> 0:37:48.719 To push back on that a little bit. Who said 0:37:48.719 --> 0:37:49.440 that who should. 0:37:49.200 --> 0:37:50.200 I should I be mad? 0:37:50.360 --> 0:37:54.279 Was with Megan Odalini. 0:37:55.960 --> 0:37:58.359 He's planted his flag in. I hate this draft. 0:38:00.480 --> 0:38:02.480 It's not my station, especially after what they did to 0:38:02.520 --> 0:38:02.960 my boy. 0:38:02.960 --> 0:38:04.120 That's true and my boy. 0:38:04.239 --> 0:38:07.320 So just looking at the linebackers yesterday, because there was 0:38:07.360 --> 0:38:09.560 a gap in linebackers, they a bunch of them went 0:38:09.600 --> 0:38:12.400 in the second round and then none until today in 0:38:12.440 --> 0:38:16.880 the fourth round. So the Patriots took Acis at fifty five, 0:38:17.280 --> 0:38:20.400 Anthony Hill Junior went at sixty, and there wasn't another 0:38:20.440 --> 0:38:23.600 linebacker taken until the fourth round, So you know, there 0:38:23.680 --> 0:38:26.520 was obviously a drop off there. You know, C J. Allen, 0:38:27.680 --> 0:38:30.200 Anthony Hill Junior, Gold Day. They all went in the 0:38:30.239 --> 0:38:31.640 second round last night, Trotter. 0:38:32.520 --> 0:38:34.640 So you've seen a lot of these names go off 0:38:34.680 --> 0:38:39.319 today too, Like you know, keishaan Elliott, I saw you. 0:38:39.160 --> 0:38:39.760 Was it Eliam? 0:38:40.239 --> 0:38:42.000 Yeah? I think Kishan Elliott still available? 0:38:42.040 --> 0:38:44.600 Thatcher went he is I think I thought I saw 0:38:44.680 --> 0:38:44.920 him go. 0:38:45.200 --> 0:38:48.360 No, you saw Kyle Lewis go. Maybe right now, so 0:38:48.440 --> 0:38:52.240 far Elims or Kendall Daniels, Betcher Lewis, and Justin Jefferson 0:38:52.239 --> 0:38:54.640 have been drafted at linebacker. But we went from pick 0:38:54.719 --> 0:38:58.160 twenty six or excuse me, pick yeah twenty eight in 0:38:58.239 --> 0:38:59.000 the second round. 0:38:59.120 --> 0:39:03.120 Reckon dudes, what great great highlight tape he had. Evan 0:39:03.200 --> 0:39:07.920 was giggling, Oh you see that, He's like giggling. It 0:39:07.960 --> 0:39:10.560 was like Kean was saying, it's about time you watch 0:39:10.600 --> 0:39:11.400 some of these guys. 0:39:11.480 --> 0:39:13.880 Seriously, Well, you do us some of them sometime. You 0:39:13.920 --> 0:39:15.759 watch these six round picks, right, I mean. 0:39:15.640 --> 0:39:18.920 Would you so you had to address that need at linebacker, 0:39:18.960 --> 0:39:22.480 and like we all agreed to really addressed address the need, right, 0:39:22.520 --> 0:39:24.680 you would have had to have done it at fifty 0:39:24.680 --> 0:39:27.799 five last night, and like who would you have rather had, 0:39:27.920 --> 0:39:29.920 you know, an off ball linebacker or ais? 0:39:30.000 --> 0:39:32.200 Yeah, no, you're totally right, And that's you know, this 0:39:32.239 --> 0:39:33.600 is what you have to choose. You have to make 0:39:33.640 --> 0:39:35.799 a choice. And there is a little more pressure on 0:39:35.800 --> 0:39:37.040 Splaine and Elis to be better. 0:39:37.080 --> 0:39:38.880 And I'm not looking to draft a guy. This is 0:39:38.960 --> 0:39:41.960 kind of back to our larger point about what's your 0:39:41.960 --> 0:39:44.399 favorite round of the job. I'm not looking for a guy, right, 0:39:44.440 --> 0:39:47.680 now that can replace Robert Splaine. Yeah, right now. But 0:39:47.760 --> 0:39:50.399 it's kind of like what they did with Lomu. I'm 0:39:50.400 --> 0:39:52.279 looking for a guy who I think might have the 0:39:52.320 --> 0:39:56.440 potential to someday step into a role like that, But 0:39:56.800 --> 0:39:58.480 this year I'm going to ask him to be a 0:39:58.480 --> 0:40:01.799 core four special team right and provide some depth in 0:40:01.840 --> 0:40:05.080 case someone gets banged up. Yep, I'm not asking someone 0:40:05.080 --> 0:40:07.560 to go out. I'm not. I'm not drafting someone on 0:40:07.640 --> 0:40:10.000 day three that I'm going to ask to replace Robert 0:40:10.040 --> 0:40:11.960 Splaine day one. I don't think Robert Splaine, when he 0:40:12.000 --> 0:40:14.360 was drafted or when he came into the league was 0:40:14.400 --> 0:40:15.200 capable of doing that. 0:40:17.600 --> 0:40:19.440 It's just interesting to me, you know, you mentioned the 0:40:19.480 --> 0:40:22.319 special teams element because I think some of you know, 0:40:22.440 --> 0:40:26.400 these linebackers, like my Guyden Fisher is more of like 0:40:26.520 --> 0:40:29.280 he wins with his brain, right, like he's winning with instincts, 0:40:29.280 --> 0:40:31.560 He's winning with feel. I don't know if he has 0:40:31.600 --> 0:40:35.040 the athleticism necessarily to be like a great player in 0:40:35.080 --> 0:40:37.640 the kicking game. But then other guys that are great 0:40:37.640 --> 0:40:39.960 athletes might not have his instincts, but they have the 0:40:40.000 --> 0:40:42.120 athleticism to play in the kicking game. So if you're 0:40:42.400 --> 0:40:44.440 kind of dead set on the guy that you draft 0:40:44.560 --> 0:40:47.040 being somebody that plays you know, is like a Core 0:40:47.120 --> 0:40:49.279 four special team or like, you know, that might be 0:40:49.320 --> 0:40:51.200 a little bit of a different type of player than 0:40:51.560 --> 0:40:54.680 someone that you're projecting is gonna play on defense. So 0:40:54.760 --> 0:40:57.160 it'd be interesting to see how they kind of split 0:40:57.200 --> 0:41:00.319 that because I don't know if Fisher has as the 0:41:00.760 --> 0:41:04.080 Jack Kelly from b YU who some people like Kayshaun 0:41:04.120 --> 0:41:05.719 Elliott might have it, you know, I don't know if 0:41:05.719 --> 0:41:08.160 they have the athleticism to go out there and play 0:41:08.160 --> 0:41:09.799 in space like that in the kicking game. 0:41:10.719 --> 0:41:12.960 All right, Well, I grew up in the days of 0:41:13.239 --> 0:41:16.200 you know, Willie Lanier and Jack Lambert and you know 0:41:16.239 --> 0:41:20.520 even Andre Tippett and and Steve Nelson's Lawrence Taylor. They 0:41:20.520 --> 0:41:22.000 were linebackers, you know. 0:41:22.360 --> 0:41:25.800 Okay, so those guys are Andre Tippett and Lawrence Taylor 0:41:26.400 --> 0:41:30.480 are now like Miles Garrett, like, you don't call them linebackers. 0:41:30.560 --> 0:41:32.800 But back then they were linebackers. 0:41:32.200 --> 0:41:34.359 Right, But they were pass rushers. They would stand up 0:41:34.440 --> 0:41:37.120 edge rushers. Now they now, both of those guys could cover, 0:41:37.840 --> 0:41:39.719 but that's not what they made their living doing. Those 0:41:39.719 --> 0:41:42.279 guys were really edge rushers, the Jack Lambert's and the 0:41:42.280 --> 0:41:46.440 William Laniers that you're talking about. This is Evans Lament. 0:41:47.120 --> 0:41:50.560 There's not they don't have those linebackers now that you know, 0:41:51.239 --> 0:41:53.560 like Ted Johnson, you know just couda come up and 0:41:53.640 --> 0:41:56.239 fill the gap, take on the you know, yeah, take 0:41:56.320 --> 0:41:59.719 take on the blocks and fill gaps. And it's it's 0:41:59.719 --> 0:42:02.560 more you need sideline to sideline, three down guys who 0:42:02.600 --> 0:42:05.759 can cover a little bit tackle the athletes to be 0:42:05.800 --> 0:42:08.360 able to match up with some of these running backs 0:42:08.360 --> 0:42:10.319 that are so prevalent now in the passing game. 0:42:10.480 --> 0:42:12.320 It's hard, hard position. 0:42:12.560 --> 0:42:14.840 Ray Lewis was sort of like the last of the 0:42:14.920 --> 0:42:18.200 breed where he could thump, he could cover, he could 0:42:18.239 --> 0:42:20.319 go sidelines to sideline, he could do it all. 0:42:20.440 --> 0:42:24.320 Yeah. Yeah, I just you know, for me, like linebackers, 0:42:24.520 --> 0:42:28.960 like I want my linebackers going forward if the guys 0:42:29.000 --> 0:42:32.080 that are covering, like what, let's get the dbs to cover, right, 0:42:32.160 --> 0:42:34.880 like the guys. I don't want my linebackers being in 0:42:34.960 --> 0:42:38.279 high stress coverage situations like if it's third down, I'm 0:42:38.280 --> 0:42:40.960 taking that linebacker off the field. Maybe, Like you have 0:42:41.000 --> 0:42:43.080 one linebacker, you know, splain would that's what it is? 0:42:43.360 --> 0:42:45.440 One guy. Yeah, and but he would blitz like he 0:42:45.480 --> 0:42:47.600 would have and it's basically just in case they run. 0:42:47.719 --> 0:42:51.000 Yeah, yeah, like he would play. He would blitz or 0:42:51.040 --> 0:42:53.799 he'd mirror or or you know whatever. He wouldn't be 0:42:54.080 --> 0:42:56.840 like covering somebody you know, one on one too often. 0:42:57.000 --> 0:42:59.360 So I I think I feel like that has also 0:42:59.520 --> 0:43:01.239 kind of played role. You know, teams are playing so 0:43:01.320 --> 0:43:03.799 much nickel and dime defense now that you don't even 0:43:03.880 --> 0:43:06.160 really need the guys you know that can match up 0:43:06.160 --> 0:43:09.040 on running backs like that. I think that's even getting 0:43:09.040 --> 0:43:10.279 a little bit more extinct too. 0:43:11.160 --> 0:43:13.440 Do you think we'll ever see the cycle kind of 0:43:13.440 --> 0:43:17.560 go back to needing those types of linebackers. 0:43:17.719 --> 0:43:19.719 I think, in my opinion, it's going back to the 0:43:19.719 --> 0:43:23.520 guys that can take on blocks like because you're trying 0:43:23.520 --> 0:43:26.200 to stop the run out of these lighter boxes and 0:43:26.239 --> 0:43:28.480 if you don't have guys that can come downhill and 0:43:28.520 --> 0:43:31.719 fill and basically count as extra defensive linemen to take 0:43:31.760 --> 0:43:34.840 back gaps, then it gets really really difficult. So I 0:43:34.920 --> 0:43:37.160 actually think that in a lot of cases now you 0:43:37.200 --> 0:43:39.200 can beat two hundred and twenty five pounds in fill 0:43:39.200 --> 0:43:41.040 a gap. You just do it with speed to power 0:43:41.120 --> 0:43:43.560 instead of just like raw size. But you know we 0:43:43.600 --> 0:43:46.400 saw it like Josiah Trotter went last night really really early. 0:43:46.719 --> 0:43:49.319 Like that's because he is a really, really good run 0:43:49.360 --> 0:43:52.920 defending linebacker. Like he's not a coverage player, you know, 0:43:52.960 --> 0:43:55.239 he's a really good run defender. I think some of 0:43:55.280 --> 0:43:57.680 these teams are looking at it and saying, you know, 0:43:58.520 --> 0:44:01.000 we're going to play a six man bob, So our 0:44:01.040 --> 0:44:03.320 mic is going to have to be able to compress space. 0:44:03.360 --> 0:44:05.120 They're gonna have to take on blocks, They're going to 0:44:05.160 --> 0:44:06.919 have to be able to make plays against the run. 0:44:07.239 --> 0:44:09.600 You know, let the safeties cover people, let the corners 0:44:09.640 --> 0:44:12.680 cover people. You know, this guy's going to go downhill. 0:44:12.840 --> 0:44:15.160 All right? Eight five to five pass five hundred is 0:44:15.200 --> 0:44:18.880 the hotline. Let's go to Sean and Vancouver. What's up Sean. 0:44:19.520 --> 0:44:22.400 He's like a few things, you know. Joe Kim believed 0:44:22.440 --> 0:44:25.120 that Gay Bachis would be a Patriot. How much of 0:44:25.120 --> 0:44:27.680 the New England Patriots connection worked the other way to 0:44:27.760 --> 0:44:32.200 convince the Paths. Also, safety Jalen Kilgar seems to be 0:44:32.239 --> 0:44:34.279 falling a bit. What do you think of him as 0:44:34.320 --> 0:44:36.960 a Patriot if he's still available? Last thing, what do 0:44:37.000 --> 0:44:40.359 you think about nose tackle Tim Keenan the third. Could 0:44:40.400 --> 0:44:42.360 he be a tong replacement. I'll let you go on that. 0:44:42.760 --> 0:44:46.160 He's the comp. He was the comp and in NFL 0:44:46.200 --> 0:44:48.359 dot Com. Yeah, I think. I mean I'd probably if 0:44:48.360 --> 0:44:50.480 I had to bet right now, I might roll the 0:44:50.520 --> 0:44:52.520 dice on those tackle at this spot coming up. 0:44:52.560 --> 0:44:55.720 I think the Godfather is still out there too, Timmy Keenan. 0:44:55.719 --> 0:44:58.120 When I watched him, was I mean, there's no pass 0:44:58.200 --> 0:45:02.479 rush there, Dad died. He is a situational He's gonna 0:45:02.480 --> 0:45:04.880 play on first down, He's gonna play on short yardage, 0:45:04.920 --> 0:45:07.520 goal line. He's not going to play at all in 0:45:07.600 --> 0:45:11.000 passing situations. So I I you know, I think Dane 0:45:11.000 --> 0:45:13.200 had him like a late Day three pick just because 0:45:13.239 --> 0:45:15.800 of how you know, small over role he's gonna play. 0:45:16.040 --> 0:45:18.400 Kilgore I think is falling because he's kind of like 0:45:18.440 --> 0:45:21.239 a specialized like he's a nickel. I think he's gonna 0:45:21.239 --> 0:45:24.040 play in the slot. But I you can want you 0:45:24.080 --> 0:45:25.960 need to have a role for that, Like if you 0:45:26.000 --> 0:45:28.879 don't want to play a big nickel like that, then 0:45:29.160 --> 0:45:30.759 you know there's a lot of teams that that just 0:45:31.000 --> 0:45:32.920 rules out that kind of player altogether. 0:45:34.160 --> 0:45:38.360 All Right, Connor wants to know do you think the 0:45:38.400 --> 0:45:41.799 Patriots would have taken Eli Raridan regardless, or do you 0:45:41.800 --> 0:45:44.080 think Chris Bell was the pick if the Dolphins didn't 0:45:44.080 --> 0:45:45.799 snag him one pick earlier. 0:45:45.920 --> 0:45:48.719 I'd go question. I mean, I'd lean with what they did. 0:45:48.760 --> 0:45:50.840 I just tight ends a bigger need. It's a position 0:45:50.920 --> 0:45:52.799 we talked about. We're assuming A. J. Brown is going 0:45:52.840 --> 0:45:55.360 to be coming in. That's the way I would lean in. 0:45:55.480 --> 0:45:58.439 And Paul's thing Bell was, you know, maybe you're gonna 0:45:58.440 --> 0:46:00.239 have to store him for a little while. Maybe east 0:46:00.239 --> 0:46:04.279 he opens up on pup. But yeah, I'm interested to 0:46:04.400 --> 0:46:07.600 know how they viewed this whole tight end class. I mean, 0:46:07.640 --> 0:46:09.640 we'll never know, but there were a lot of good 0:46:09.800 --> 0:46:12.279 a lot of good players. But I'm excited about Ard 0:46:12.320 --> 0:46:14.160 and I. It's funny you go back and you look 0:46:14.160 --> 0:46:15.840 at your notes and I'm like, yeah, I really like 0:46:15.920 --> 0:46:18.160 this kid. Why was I not really on him as much? 0:46:18.200 --> 0:46:19.760 And you know, it just kind of happens when you're 0:46:19.960 --> 0:46:22.680 sifting through all these guys. But now it's just thinking 0:46:22.680 --> 0:46:25.600 about it last night, getting to see him on the 0:46:25.600 --> 0:46:28.240 field with the link that he has, it's gonna be intriguing. 0:46:28.360 --> 0:46:31.120 You know, see how Drake responds to that just so much. 0:46:31.280 --> 0:46:32.920 I mean out of the gate in training camp, you 0:46:32.960 --> 0:46:34.799 felt like, now he likes Matt Collins, like he's throwing 0:46:34.800 --> 0:46:37.000 the ball to Matt Collins a lot. And I and 0:46:37.040 --> 0:46:38.560 I was talking about Brian. I was talking to Brian 0:46:38.560 --> 0:46:40.600 Horror today about it. I just said, you know, is 0:46:40.640 --> 0:46:44.520 there did you have types of receivers that you struggled 0:46:44.520 --> 0:46:48.080 to build chemistry with because they were smaller? And I 0:46:48.120 --> 0:46:50.400 forget the name of the receiver he told me about, 0:46:50.600 --> 0:46:52.399 but he said that, yes, he. 0:46:52.440 --> 0:46:54.720 Was wanted like children from Cleveland. 0:46:54.800 --> 0:46:55.960 Day's not a Patriot guy. 0:46:55.960 --> 0:46:58.240 It's like a Cleveland guy. It was like a Cleveland guy. 0:46:58.840 --> 0:47:00.719 But he said, you know in the receiver said it 0:47:00.719 --> 0:47:02.880 it's so hard because you can't see me and I 0:47:02.920 --> 0:47:03.440 can't see you. 0:47:03.480 --> 0:47:05.120 And he was like, you know, when he catched the ball, 0:47:05.160 --> 0:47:05.879 it'd be like whoa. 0:47:06.000 --> 0:47:09.760 You know, you wouldn't see it until it's right here, 0:47:10.120 --> 0:47:11.960 you know. So I and and it's just a general 0:47:12.040 --> 0:47:15.080 Drake thing. I think he just likes seeing those targets. 0:47:15.080 --> 0:47:17.400 I mean, Drake's got good size, he doesn't have a 0:47:17.440 --> 0:47:20.160 problem scanning the field. But I'm excited that I think 0:47:20.200 --> 0:47:22.120 rare And is going to fit exactly that kind of 0:47:22.120 --> 0:47:23.560 mold that that Drake likes to throw. 0:47:23.480 --> 0:47:27.760 Tom Yeah, it's interesting the I don't feel like fans, 0:47:28.520 --> 0:47:32.080 you know, think about sometimes you just can't see the guy, 0:47:32.400 --> 0:47:34.319 like so it's easy, like when you watch it from 0:47:34.320 --> 0:47:36.000 like a bird's eye view and it's like, oh, this 0:47:36.040 --> 0:47:39.319 guy's open, right, but like the screen cap, but like 0:47:40.320 --> 0:47:44.440 some guys you know, there's yeah, or like the lineman 0:47:44.480 --> 0:47:46.759 flash in front of his face, or like a guy 0:47:46.840 --> 0:47:49.560 kind of hides and it's actually his skill as a 0:47:49.600 --> 0:47:53.319 receiver to like if he can't see you, then you 0:47:53.360 --> 0:47:56.280 can't see him, right, So like the receivers are supposed 0:47:56.280 --> 0:47:59.040 to know that if I can't make eye contact with 0:47:59.080 --> 0:48:01.440 the quarterback right now and he can't see me, so 0:48:01.520 --> 0:48:03.359 I need to move, Like I'm not in a good 0:48:03.719 --> 0:48:06.400 place with that. So it's funny how that happens. Sometimes. 0:48:06.680 --> 0:48:08.719 There was one I can't remember exactly what play it was, 0:48:08.760 --> 0:48:11.520 but there was one play last year of the year 0:48:11.560 --> 0:48:14.479 before where Drake missed a guy open over the middle 0:48:14.480 --> 0:48:16.319 of the field and he's like, honestly, I couldn't see him. 0:48:17.400 --> 0:48:19.680 A lot of guys, not a lot, but you see 0:48:19.719 --> 0:48:22.879 some guys regardless of the color of their uniforms, they 0:48:22.880 --> 0:48:25.800 wear those bright yellow receiving gloves. 0:48:25.840 --> 0:48:26.840 Yeah, do you think. 0:48:27.000 --> 0:48:29.360 That has anything to do with Maybe that flashes and 0:48:29.760 --> 0:48:31.359 my quarterback sees it a little better. 0:48:31.440 --> 0:48:35.919 Maybe I remember Edelman. Edelman talked about how Bill would 0:48:35.960 --> 0:48:37.799 have them wear receiver gloves if they were the same 0:48:37.840 --> 0:48:40.839 color as the jersey of the opponent, right, so that 0:48:41.080 --> 0:48:43.480 the whole for holding, so that they couldn't see where 0:48:43.480 --> 0:48:45.799 their hands. The refs couldn't see the hands as well 0:48:45.840 --> 0:48:51.640 on the jerseys, so they would like camouflage into the jersey. 0:48:49.719 --> 0:48:54.440 So you can't wear teal gloves against the Dolphins on 0:48:54.440 --> 0:48:55.480 the Patriots. 0:48:55.040 --> 0:48:57.280 So they just have like a bunch of different colored 0:48:57.320 --> 0:48:59.239 gloves and like if they're playing a team with like 0:48:59.320 --> 0:49:01.680 dark colored jur they put the black gloves on, and 0:49:01.800 --> 0:49:04.120 like jerseys, they put the white gloves on. Yeah. 0:49:04.400 --> 0:49:05.839 I told him that I just hate when they weigh 0:49:05.840 --> 0:49:07.640 the yellow gloves because he always looks like a flag. 0:49:07.719 --> 0:49:11.680 Yeah you're watching TV, you know, like, oh, it's a flag, right, No, 0:49:11.719 --> 0:49:12.759 it's just a glove. 0:49:13.280 --> 0:49:16.279 Eddie and la fun draft so far, I personally would 0:49:16.280 --> 0:49:20.520 have liked howl over August. I want to say yakis, 0:49:20.520 --> 0:49:24.480 but I know it's ocus achus, but I see the 0:49:24.520 --> 0:49:28.200 potential with Akis, so I can't keep playing. Uh So, 0:49:28.280 --> 0:49:31.160 say Campbell isn't suited for a left tackle, would it 0:49:31.160 --> 0:49:33.440 be smart to try him at right tackle and then 0:49:33.880 --> 0:49:36.560 guard or would you move him straight to guard and 0:49:36.640 --> 0:49:40.440 try Lamu Lamou at left tackle? Just some thoughts and 0:49:40.520 --> 0:49:42.800 how you would go about fixing the line if things 0:49:42.840 --> 0:49:44.240 don't work out. 0:49:44.719 --> 0:49:46.440 I mean, I just whatever you do, I don't want 0:49:46.440 --> 0:49:48.719 to weaken two spots at once. So you know, if 0:49:48.760 --> 0:49:50.400 you're a Tucker is in the left guard spot and 0:49:50.400 --> 0:49:51.520 he's playing well. 0:49:51.360 --> 0:49:54.040 Then where he's very Tucker going. If you're right Campbell 0:49:54.360 --> 0:49:57.160 left guard and it's very Tucker going to right guard, 0:49:57.200 --> 0:49:58.759 I guess, and then maybe on when he was out, 0:49:58.800 --> 0:49:59.200 And like, I. 0:49:59.200 --> 0:50:00.520 Mean, we're just possible. 0:50:00.840 --> 0:50:03.640 I think that the larger rather than worrying about sides 0:50:03.719 --> 0:50:07.040 is would you try Campbell at right tackle before you 0:50:07.080 --> 0:50:08.160 tried to move them to guard? 0:50:08.440 --> 0:50:11.600 I'm going to play with Will Campbell at left tackle? No, no, no, 0:50:12.160 --> 0:50:13.680 this hype efect. 0:50:14.520 --> 0:50:17.239 You need to I don't like. 0:50:17.520 --> 0:50:19.480 No, I don't need I don't know why we have 0:50:19.560 --> 0:50:23.440 to entertain this like this, this whole I'm gonna I 0:50:23.520 --> 0:50:25.400 want to explore this further during the course of the 0:50:25.400 --> 0:50:28.200 off season around the room a little this utter refusal, 0:50:28.320 --> 0:50:30.880 like I don't care who plays left tackle as long 0:50:30.920 --> 0:50:32.720 as they're the best left tackle on the team. 0:50:32.840 --> 0:50:34.520 I think he's the best left tackle on the team. 0:50:34.600 --> 0:50:36.439 I understand that That's not what I'm not saying. 0:50:36.840 --> 0:50:39.880 It's trying to suggest that low moom is better at 0:50:39.920 --> 0:50:42.560 left tackle than Will Campbell. So then where what would 0:50:42.600 --> 0:50:44.360 you do with Will Campbell in that case? 0:50:44.600 --> 0:50:45.920 Would you to me that is. 0:50:45.960 --> 0:50:52.040 Just hypotheticals, Like we're just making things up, right, So why. 0:50:51.880 --> 0:50:56.080 Like, because it's a possibility. That's why, I mean a possibility. 0:50:56.239 --> 0:50:59.560 That's why you create competition on your roster so you 0:50:59.600 --> 0:51:02.040 see the best player is can we see. 0:51:01.880 --> 0:51:04.600 The guy play in pads in an NFL practice before 0:51:04.600 --> 0:51:07.520 we start saying if that is happening, if you. 0:51:07.840 --> 0:51:09.560 Like, you need to open your mind a little bit, 0:51:10.239 --> 0:51:12.480 like no one said this is happening. 0:51:12.719 --> 0:51:14.440 Okay, but we don't know. 0:51:15.719 --> 0:51:18.439 In an emailer has I think a very legitimate question, 0:51:18.480 --> 0:51:19.839 would you just automatically I'm. 0:51:19.760 --> 0:51:22.600 Not trying to guard I just feel like. 0:51:22.600 --> 0:51:24.319 We just don't want to entertain it, right. 0:51:24.600 --> 0:51:26.960 It's like, because everybody likes the guy, I love the 0:51:27.040 --> 0:51:29.920 kid too. No, he's not talking to my wife at 0:51:29.960 --> 0:51:31.919 the welcome party. I thought it was great. 0:51:31.960 --> 0:51:34.120 I love somebody as good. 0:51:34.040 --> 0:51:36.640 As you know, Like somebody tells Evan, you know somebody 0:51:36.640 --> 0:51:40.040 in your family could get sick. No they can't. I'm 0:51:40.080 --> 0:51:41.480 just not gonna like that. 0:51:43.200 --> 0:51:46.360 Where no one wants to even bring up the possibility 0:51:46.400 --> 0:51:51.800 that I hear it, because like it just I'm not whatever. 0:51:52.440 --> 0:51:56.520 I I just like we're talking about because we're talking 0:51:56.520 --> 0:51:59.319 about a guy that played at a really high level 0:51:59.360 --> 0:52:01.799 I think at that position for fourteen weeks. Then he 0:52:01.840 --> 0:52:04.680 tore his mcut and then you don't think that. I mean, 0:52:04.719 --> 0:52:06.920 he had one bad game against Miles Garrett. Are we 0:52:06.960 --> 0:52:08.680 gonna We're gonna, We're gonna. 0:52:08.440 --> 0:52:10.279 Bras the game. I mean, like I think there was 0:52:10.320 --> 0:52:12.200 a lot of like really late pressure. 0:52:12.360 --> 0:52:13.880 I mean I know that the set, Like you just 0:52:13.920 --> 0:52:15.480 look at the sack total at the end of that 0:52:15.520 --> 0:52:17.040 game and it looks like you got killed. I don't 0:52:17.080 --> 0:52:19.120 really think he got killed that game. I know we 0:52:19.200 --> 0:52:20.839 gave up five sacks, but. 0:52:20.840 --> 0:52:22.279 A couple of them were well out of the. 0:52:22.280 --> 0:52:25.120 Pocket, and Miles Garret is just a superior athlete and 0:52:25.200 --> 0:52:25.839 ran them down. 0:52:26.480 --> 0:52:28.040 But I would I. 0:52:27.960 --> 0:52:29.920 Think that he can. We just think he's give it 0:52:30.000 --> 0:52:32.360 some time before we broach the subject, like let's watch 0:52:32.440 --> 0:52:33.600 the season unfold away. 0:52:33.719 --> 0:52:36.080 I just don't understand now that we have to get time. 0:52:37.480 --> 0:52:40.560 I hear you, Evan. I'm, like I've said many times, 0:52:40.640 --> 0:52:43.960 I'm team Campbell. However, they just drafted a guy who 0:52:44.040 --> 0:52:45.480 all he's played is left tackle. 0:52:46.480 --> 0:52:48.600 That's kind of why Evan doesn't really love to pick. 0:52:48.440 --> 0:52:48.600 You know. 0:52:48.760 --> 0:52:54.640 And and so you know it's right, like yeah, and 0:52:55.280 --> 0:52:57.880 some people think that, yeah, Will Campbell played at a 0:52:58.000 --> 0:53:02.200 very high level against the lesser competition in the league, 0:53:02.640 --> 0:53:05.040 and when you know, things got a little bit more 0:53:05.040 --> 0:53:07.759 heated later on, you didn't do well. Now, a lot 0:53:07.760 --> 0:53:09.640 of that could been the injury. I give you that, 0:53:09.960 --> 0:53:12.359 But people are just you know what if so. 0:53:14.640 --> 0:53:17.600 You're thinking about this all wrong about what I'm saying, 0:53:17.880 --> 0:53:21.040 like has nothing to do with that. I like the guy, Okay, 0:53:21.200 --> 0:53:24.200 this is about let's move this guy over here, and 0:53:24.280 --> 0:53:26.440 let's move that guy over there, and then you know, 0:53:26.719 --> 0:53:28.920 like that's just magically going to make them all better. 0:53:29.239 --> 0:53:32.600 Well you know, but but no, But the thing that 0:53:32.680 --> 0:53:35.759 I'm saying is is that moving Will Campbell inside to 0:53:35.800 --> 0:53:38.360 guard or flipping him to right tackle. There's no guarantee 0:53:38.360 --> 0:53:40.200 that he's a better left guard or right tackle than 0:53:40.200 --> 0:53:42.960 he is a left tackle. True, and actually in reality 0:53:43.000 --> 0:53:45.040 it's like a lot harder than people are giving it, 0:53:45.160 --> 0:53:46.120 like credence for it. 0:53:46.160 --> 0:53:49.279 That's an even darker it could be. But but on 0:53:49.360 --> 0:53:52.560 the other hand, if he's not doing well at left tackle, 0:53:52.640 --> 0:53:54.440 you don't want to just scuttle him. You want to 0:53:54.480 --> 0:53:56.120 find a place for him because you think he's a 0:53:56.120 --> 0:53:56.959 good football player. 0:53:57.000 --> 0:54:00.239 Okay, but you're we're all just assuming that ince same 0:54:00.280 --> 0:54:02.239 thing with Loomb But we're all just assuming he can 0:54:02.280 --> 0:54:05.319 play right No, assuming that Will is gonna be want 0:54:05.480 --> 0:54:06.640 the left guard and he's gonna. 0:54:06.480 --> 0:54:09.279 Be I won a great a fairness of the other 0:54:09.400 --> 0:54:12.520 night when they picked Lomu. I had said to Mike, like, well, 0:54:12.560 --> 0:54:14.520 what if he can't do that? Like, I don't know 0:54:14.520 --> 0:54:18.040 what Lomu is. Guy's never played an NFL game, ain't right, 0:54:18.120 --> 0:54:21.239 So like this might be a completely moved point, But I. 0:54:21.520 --> 0:54:23.400 Just I just can I answer it? Yeah, I'll just 0:54:23.440 --> 0:54:25.960 say I would wait till twenty twenty seven, and if 0:54:26.000 --> 0:54:27.920 it happened, I would let one you walk and I 0:54:27.960 --> 0:54:29.839 would slide verit. Tucker to right guard, and I would 0:54:29.840 --> 0:54:31.000 put Will Campbell at left guard. 0:54:31.960 --> 0:54:33.839 That to me not in favor of that. I think 0:54:33.880 --> 0:54:35.280 that's a lot of moving parts. 0:54:35.400 --> 0:54:37.839 Well, Ver Tucker's played right guard, he has played right guard. Yeah, 0:54:37.840 --> 0:54:39.160 I know, it's just a lot of moving parts. 0:54:39.280 --> 0:54:41.719 He's a left left guard, Will Campbell be I think 0:54:41.760 --> 0:54:44.200 that that probably would be where it would be. But 0:54:44.239 --> 0:54:46.279 I don't see the need to do it this year, 0:54:46.760 --> 0:54:49.319 you know, I I mean, I think about injury in that. 0:54:49.440 --> 0:54:53.839 But in that scenario, who plays right tackle? Morgan Moses. 0:54:56.440 --> 0:54:57.279 Could probably find it. 0:54:57.239 --> 0:54:59.719 Right soon to be desired a third straight year of 0:54:59.760 --> 0:55:01.920 a the third straight year of a tackle. 0:55:02.080 --> 0:55:04.800 He can't Spaah Tucker at right guard? Who plays right tackle? 0:55:05.080 --> 0:55:07.560 What I said, they don't have one who's on third. 0:55:08.120 --> 0:55:10.640 But I think that's what the crux of the thing is. 0:55:11.480 --> 0:55:14.399 I understand Evan's point. He doesn't necessarily want to get 0:55:14.400 --> 0:55:18.920 bogged down on hypotheticals. And this is typical of my shows. 0:55:18.960 --> 0:55:22.080 This is a typical my show hypothetical. I grant you that, 0:55:22.200 --> 0:55:25.320 But if that were to happen, if you felt like Lomu, 0:55:25.760 --> 0:55:30.080 Let's say, Lomu is really good, but is one of 0:55:30.080 --> 0:55:33.279 those guys that Belichick and Dante have talked about he's 0:55:33.320 --> 0:55:36.920 not comfortable on the right side and he's really good. 0:55:37.480 --> 0:55:41.480 Maybe Campbell is comfortable moving, so maybe Campbell's fine, but 0:55:41.600 --> 0:55:43.560 he has more of an ability to play right tackle 0:55:43.560 --> 0:55:47.120 than Lomu does. Maybe maybe he's just a natural switch. 0:55:47.239 --> 0:55:49.080 So that's a positive way to look at now, yet 0:55:49.160 --> 0:55:52.920 to really good tackles, to just fix the whole thing, 0:55:53.239 --> 0:55:57.640 well Campbell thing that That is what happened at Utah. 0:55:57.960 --> 0:56:02.280 Spencer Finol came to Utah with Lomu, and the Utah 0:56:02.320 --> 0:56:05.680 coaching staff said, we think Lomu can only play the 0:56:05.760 --> 0:56:08.439 left side, and so we're going to ask Spencer Fane, 0:56:08.640 --> 0:56:10.680 who's actually was drafted higher. 0:56:10.840 --> 0:56:13.040 He's the first tackle. Yeah, and some people think was, 0:56:13.239 --> 0:56:15.440 you know, the better player. We're actually going to ask 0:56:15.520 --> 0:56:17.839 him to play on the right side, which is unconventional 0:56:18.280 --> 0:56:21.759 because Lomu is really a left tackle only player. And 0:56:21.800 --> 0:56:24.479 so that for that reason was a big reason why 0:56:24.520 --> 0:56:26.000 I wrote off Lomu as somebody. 0:56:26.000 --> 0:56:31.160 They were just also similar to Missouri. Last year you 0:56:31.239 --> 0:56:34.920 had Arman membu Yah was the first round pick right tackle. 0:56:35.440 --> 0:56:38.640 In our own Marcus Bryant was the seventh round pick 0:56:38.719 --> 0:56:41.440 left tackle. Now, obviously there's a much closer gap between 0:56:41.440 --> 0:56:43.920 the two Utah guys. They were both first round talents 0:56:43.960 --> 0:56:47.000 and first round picks. But it was the same kind 0:56:47.040 --> 0:56:50.080 of thing. When I talked to the Missouri line coach, 0:56:50.160 --> 0:56:53.200 they went out and got Marcus Bryant, I believe from 0:56:53.280 --> 0:56:56.719 SMU from the memory correctly, and they plugged him right 0:56:56.760 --> 0:56:59.600 in on the left side because they thought Membu was 0:56:59.600 --> 0:57:02.120 more comfortable where he was and they didn't want to 0:57:02.120 --> 0:57:02.600 disrupt that. 0:57:02.760 --> 0:57:05.360 I want to go back to Evan's story about Lomu 0:57:05.520 --> 0:57:10.400 at Utah and Fino, So if that's the case, they 0:57:10.440 --> 0:57:13.080 didn't think he could play on the right side. Do 0:57:13.120 --> 0:57:16.160 you think the Patriots you know about that story. I 0:57:16.160 --> 0:57:18.800 would think the Patriots scouting would know about that story 0:57:18.840 --> 0:57:22.120 too and have talked to them about that. And maybe 0:57:22.160 --> 0:57:26.400 in the years since, you know now, do you think 0:57:26.400 --> 0:57:27.280 he could play right time? 0:57:27.320 --> 0:57:31.480 You think so they've talked about that with Utah probably, 0:57:31.520 --> 0:57:34.840 And look, that was just you know, one person's interpretation 0:57:35.000 --> 0:57:37.320 of you know what happened, you know what was what 0:57:37.480 --> 0:57:38.440 was being talked about. 0:57:39.080 --> 0:57:39.760 But they. 0:57:41.120 --> 0:57:45.040 They felt like Finoa was more comfortable switching, so they switched. Fine, 0:57:46.280 --> 0:57:49.800 The Patriots said after the draft on Thursday night that 0:57:50.000 --> 0:57:52.400 he took past sets at right tackle at his pro 0:57:52.480 --> 0:57:54.920 day and looked pretty good getting in out of his 0:57:54.960 --> 0:57:57.600 stance at right tackle. Because everything's flipped right, you're not 0:57:57.720 --> 0:57:59.960 just your hands but also your feet, so you know, 0:58:00.160 --> 0:58:02.000 the foot that you're kicking out of your stance with 0:58:02.120 --> 0:58:05.320 is now the opposite foot. So they said that, you know, 0:58:06.240 --> 0:58:09.800 he looked pretty comfortable doing it. He's played thirty two 0:58:09.840 --> 0:58:13.000 snaps in his entire collegiate career on the right side. 0:58:13.040 --> 0:58:15.880 It's not even a full game, so we haven't really 0:58:15.880 --> 0:58:16.880 seen him do it yet. 0:58:17.000 --> 0:58:18.280 You know, he didn't do it at a. 0:58:18.280 --> 0:58:20.680 College All Star game that I'm aware of, Like, so 0:58:20.760 --> 0:58:24.000 he really hasn't done it in pads yet. So we'll see, 0:58:24.120 --> 0:58:24.240 you know. 0:58:24.280 --> 0:58:26.680 I'm just wondering the people at Utah who know him 0:58:26.760 --> 0:58:30.400 the best, say the stuff that we saw that we 0:58:30.520 --> 0:58:33.440 thought would keep him being able to play right tackle 0:58:33.480 --> 0:58:35.960 back then, he's improved on those things and now it's 0:58:36.000 --> 0:58:39.160 it's different now we think he could probably make that transition. Yeah, 0:58:39.160 --> 0:58:39.560 I don't know. 0:58:39.840 --> 0:58:41.920 I hope, So, I mean I hope that's the case. 0:58:41.960 --> 0:58:44.680 And you know, look, maybe maybe we end up getting 0:58:44.720 --> 0:58:47.560 into a place where it's will Campbell, that's switching because 0:58:47.560 --> 0:58:51.160 he's more comfortable switching. I don't know, I just I 0:58:51.280 --> 0:58:53.400 keep going back to, you know, the things that I've 0:58:53.440 --> 0:58:56.360 been told about offensive line play, and everybody thinks that 0:58:56.400 --> 0:58:58.600 it's just so easy to play musical chairs on the 0:58:58.600 --> 0:59:00.800 offensive line. We're just gonna move this guy on this 0:59:00.960 --> 0:59:03.040 side to that side, and that side to this side, 0:59:03.040 --> 0:59:05.160 and he's going to go inside and that guy's gonna 0:59:05.200 --> 0:59:08.960 go outside. And like all the line coaches that I've 0:59:09.000 --> 0:59:13.160 ever talked to say, no, you can't do it like that. 0:59:13.480 --> 0:59:15.680 And you know, that was a big thing that you know, 0:59:15.760 --> 0:59:18.520 Dante Scarnekia used to say, was like they used to 0:59:18.600 --> 0:59:22.040 just do one for one substitutions because they wanted to 0:59:22.120 --> 0:59:24.840 just instead of weakening two spots, they were just weaken 0:59:24.960 --> 0:59:27.680 one with the backup going in right directly for that spot. 0:59:27.680 --> 0:59:30.040 That's how you get, you know, the Jordan Devies, you know, 0:59:30.400 --> 0:59:34.840 starting games for the Patriots. So like, you know, I 0:59:34.960 --> 0:59:37.360 just that's why I get annoyed by the question, not 0:59:37.440 --> 0:59:40.600 because of the Will Campbell piece of it. It's the assumption, 0:59:41.640 --> 0:59:43.080 you know, we're just going to be able to move 0:59:43.120 --> 0:59:45.520 everybody around and it's gonna end up being better than 0:59:45.520 --> 0:59:46.240 it was. 0:59:46.560 --> 0:59:48.439 Yeah, this is good. 0:59:48.560 --> 0:59:50.120 I just I think it's worth pointing out to that 0:59:50.240 --> 0:59:53.000 Utah ran a run first offense. So I don't know 0:59:53.160 --> 0:59:56.480 that the left tackle right tackle thing in the traditional 0:59:56.520 --> 0:59:58.480 sense of the way that we're thinking about it is 0:59:58.520 --> 1:00:01.480 exactly applicable to how they were playing. 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For deals, buy a Toyota dot com. 1:05:39.240 --> 1:05:41.440 These guys that have been picniced and are so like 1:05:41.560 --> 1:05:45.080 Abney happy. 1:05:43.160 --> 1:05:45.840 For I know they were back. 1:05:46.520 --> 1:05:47.400 Oh we are back. 1:05:49.280 --> 1:05:50.840 I know the running back from Penn State. 1:05:52.680 --> 1:05:56.600 Just crossing off another back of the envelope. Guy Tanner 1:05:56.680 --> 1:05:57.800 Cozy from Houston. 1:05:58.120 --> 1:06:00.440 It was like a six foot seven middles cooler, Like 1:06:00.440 --> 1:06:02.280 he just had such a baby face, but he was 1:06:02.320 --> 1:06:05.040 a giant dude. And he's behind the podium at the 1:06:05.080 --> 1:06:06.720 combine and I was like, Oh, who's this guy? And 1:06:06.720 --> 1:06:09.120 then he like stepped down and like, oh my god, 1:06:09.160 --> 1:06:10.360 he's a huge kid. 1:06:10.560 --> 1:06:13.360 Yeah. Remind me of a lot of Mike Sicky. Like 1:06:13.480 --> 1:06:17.320 good receiving, tight end, great hands, great intested catchability, not 1:06:17.440 --> 1:06:20.560 a blocker, all right. 1:06:21.160 --> 1:06:23.760 Penn State took Nicholas Singleton running back. 1:06:24.080 --> 1:06:28.520 Tennessee took Nicholas Sington from Tennessee. Draft players. 1:06:30.080 --> 1:06:34.400 Right popped in nicol Penn State got taken by Tennessee. 1:06:34.880 --> 1:06:36.640 Uh so the Bears are on the clock. 1:06:37.280 --> 1:06:38.840 Those guys back to back. 1:06:38.720 --> 1:06:41.439 For about four picks away at this point. 1:06:40.560 --> 1:06:44.640 Yeah, back to back picks coming up. So I wonder 1:06:44.640 --> 1:06:45.240 what bill. 1:06:45.040 --> 1:06:47.600 Does Bills are in the fifth round. They had two 1:06:47.640 --> 1:06:48.520 picks earlier. 1:06:48.200 --> 1:06:51.720 In the round two, fourth round they got work around Patriots. 1:06:51.720 --> 1:06:53.320 They had back to back fourth round picks. 1:06:53.400 --> 1:06:54.640 Yeah, big Day three team. 1:06:55.720 --> 1:06:59.840 They took Skylar Bell with the Patriots. Skyline picked Patriots trader. 1:07:00.000 --> 1:07:01.760 This is a humane draft for the Bills. This is 1:07:01.800 --> 1:07:03.160 the beginning of their new era. 1:07:03.400 --> 1:07:06.040 Oh Fred is the we're opening the window. 1:07:07.360 --> 1:07:10.280 At the new stadium, you know, new right. 1:07:10.840 --> 1:07:13.760 It is interesting that obviously he's a he's you know, 1:07:13.880 --> 1:07:16.920 was their offensive coordinator, but they have a new defensive coordinator, 1:07:17.000 --> 1:07:20.160 Jim Leonard, and like the system is, you know, defensively, 1:07:20.400 --> 1:07:22.560 looks like it's going to change pretty significantly. Like I 1:07:22.600 --> 1:07:25.200 don't think t. J. Parker would have been their type 1:07:25.200 --> 1:07:26.680 of guy in a four to three and like their 1:07:26.720 --> 1:07:29.400 old type of system. So it's interesting to see what 1:07:29.640 --> 1:07:32.840 Buffalo is, you know, transitioning to these days. Kesehawn Elliott 1:07:32.880 --> 1:07:35.000 just went so one of the another one of those linebackers. 1:07:35.240 --> 1:07:40.960 Yep, so Bill's Bill steal As Brown's Patriots coming up. 1:07:41.160 --> 1:07:41.560 I don't know. 1:07:41.640 --> 1:07:43.520 I mean, this is the fifth round of the draft. 1:07:43.640 --> 1:07:46.360 At this point, you know, who knows what their board 1:07:46.360 --> 1:07:50.160 looks like. I go back to the question I poorly 1:07:50.200 --> 1:07:53.320 asked of Elliott two days ago. But you know, at 1:07:53.320 --> 1:07:55.720 this point, how do you know when it's time to 1:07:55.760 --> 1:07:58.080 trade up? Or I mean, are there less trades when 1:07:58.080 --> 1:08:00.000 you get into Day three or are there more trade 1:08:00.080 --> 1:08:03.280 It's because I mean, maybe you see somebody that you 1:08:03.360 --> 1:08:05.200 really really like and you'd say, screwed, we gotta go 1:08:05.240 --> 1:08:07.400 get him, but at this point, don't you feel like 1:08:07.440 --> 1:08:08.880 you just kind of sit and wait and see what's 1:08:08.880 --> 1:08:12.480 there when you get there and hopefully make a quality pick. Uh, 1:08:12.800 --> 1:08:16.639 let's see Mike, and may add not playing that's fine, 1:08:16.640 --> 1:08:18.040 he didn't like it to add. 1:08:17.800 --> 1:08:22.120 Fuel to the fire. According to Kadlake's x account, starting 1:08:22.160 --> 1:08:26.920 five from left to right will be Lomu, Campbell, Wilson, You, 1:08:27.080 --> 1:08:27.880 and Vera Tucka. 1:08:28.200 --> 1:08:29.600 This was Evan. It's about to go. 1:08:30.439 --> 1:08:32.840 He said that if he said something about can you 1:08:32.880 --> 1:08:33.479 read that again? 1:08:35.560 --> 1:08:36.160 Left tackle? 1:08:36.680 --> 1:08:38.160 Vera Tucker is going to play right tackle. 1:08:38.240 --> 1:08:38.439 Yeah. 1:08:38.439 --> 1:08:40.559 He got roasted for this take. He got roasted so 1:08:40.640 --> 1:08:43.240 bad for the take that he replied to the tweet 1:08:43.439 --> 1:08:46.600 with a revised version and said, Okay, all right, I 1:08:46.640 --> 1:08:50.479 get you know, Mike, don't back up, Mike gun. 1:08:52.880 --> 1:08:56.439 I'm not even gonna if that's Evan was well aware 1:08:56.479 --> 1:08:57.120 of that. 1:08:57.439 --> 1:09:00.800 You know what my guys are doing right along? Then 1:09:01.200 --> 1:09:03.360 I just love sending it in the group text like 1:09:03.360 --> 1:09:06.679 we're going to make a guard attack in the rookie 1:09:06.760 --> 1:09:07.439 got left hock. 1:09:07.920 --> 1:09:09.760 I just imagine the textbox up from ev and it's 1:09:09.800 --> 1:09:10.519 just like, what is this? 1:09:10.640 --> 1:09:10.800 Yeah? 1:09:11.080 --> 1:09:13.280 Yeah, Because a lot of like so much fun. 1:09:14.400 --> 1:09:16.120 The thing that I was thinking about this morning when 1:09:16.200 --> 1:09:17.680 one of your guys was talking about, you know, they 1:09:17.680 --> 1:09:19.439 don't have a plan. They should have done all this 1:09:19.479 --> 1:09:21.960 stuff last year, all this stuff right as if you 1:09:22.000 --> 1:09:24.840 can do it. These guys are playing fantasy football, some 1:09:24.880 --> 1:09:26.960 of these analysts, these quote analysts. 1:09:27.040 --> 1:09:30.080 Yeah that's not they need a wr one. 1:09:30.360 --> 1:09:33.400 Yeah, it's not. It's not how it works. You just 1:09:33.520 --> 1:09:35.559 can't do everything every year. 1:09:36.200 --> 1:09:38.760 Honestly though, like I was in game, as I do, 1:09:38.880 --> 1:09:41.120 I was thinking about this last night on my ride home. 1:09:42.240 --> 1:09:44.840 Their roster looks pretty darn good on paper right now. 1:09:44.880 --> 1:09:46.719 It's not bad, especially Patriots. 1:09:46.800 --> 1:09:49.920 Yeah, they don't have any huge hole, especially if you 1:09:50.240 --> 1:09:52.360 are we're all assuming A J. Brown is going to 1:09:52.360 --> 1:09:54.040 be a part of this in a month. 1:09:54.320 --> 1:09:56.280 I mean, they did a really good job and a 1:09:56.320 --> 1:09:58.439 really short amount of time of filling a lot of hole. 1:09:58.760 --> 1:10:02.960 Like talk about depth issues in certain case. 1:10:03.000 --> 1:10:05.960 Theftball linebacker is the depth issue right now. But like 1:10:06.520 --> 1:10:09.400 you know, they were talking about Lomu, you know, having 1:10:09.400 --> 1:10:12.519 a little bit of guard flexibility maybe as a rookie 1:10:12.520 --> 1:10:14.800 if he's backing up, you know, kind of four spots. 1:10:14.880 --> 1:10:17.040 You know, if that it comes to that, you know, 1:10:17.040 --> 1:10:19.160 I don't know if you'd necessarily have all this major 1:10:19.240 --> 1:10:21.360 depth issues on the offensive line because you still have 1:10:21.400 --> 1:10:24.080 Ben Brown who can back up three spots on the interior. 1:10:24.479 --> 1:10:27.640 If you know Lomu can be your swing tackle. I 1:10:27.640 --> 1:10:30.400 mean that, how much more do you like NFL caliber 1:10:30.520 --> 1:10:31.800 depth on the line? To people say, what. 1:10:32.080 --> 1:10:35.880 Bround was Joe Tuney taken or fourth? If he had 1:10:35.920 --> 1:10:38.080 been a first round pick and still had the same 1:10:38.160 --> 1:10:40.040 career where he's kind of like this guy that can 1:10:40.080 --> 1:10:42.400 play a lot, would that have been a good first 1:10:42.479 --> 1:10:42.960 round pick? 1:10:44.280 --> 1:10:46.200 I mean, it's we get into the guard thing, but yeah, 1:10:46.240 --> 1:10:47.720 but he's a Hall of Fame guard, so yeah, I 1:10:47.760 --> 1:10:49.280 would say probably a late. 1:10:49.280 --> 1:10:51.880 First round pick would have been. Yeah, he's a Hall 1:10:51.920 --> 1:10:52.320 of Fame. 1:10:52.920 --> 1:10:54.760 You guys know, I keep my Nerd depth chart here 1:10:54.800 --> 1:10:56.840 and I would just say that the three spots I 1:10:56.840 --> 1:10:58.680 have left, like I have red spots of where I 1:10:58.680 --> 1:11:01.479 think they need depth lest that guard, you know guard, 1:11:01.479 --> 1:11:03.439 I think they needed Michael When is going to be up. 1:11:03.479 --> 1:11:04.280 And regardless you. 1:11:04.240 --> 1:11:04.760 Got Ben Brown. 1:11:04.760 --> 1:11:06.200 He's a good swing guy, but I think you need 1:11:06.200 --> 1:11:08.680 one more young guard, a nose tackle, and an off 1:11:08.720 --> 1:11:11.120 the ball linebacker. Those are the three spots I have 1:11:11.280 --> 1:11:13.000 left that I'd like to get some depth pieces. They 1:11:13.000 --> 1:11:15.720 don't have to be immediate contributors, but maybe guys that 1:11:16.040 --> 1:11:19.160 develop behind the scenes. But you know, after that, I'm 1:11:19.200 --> 1:11:19.720 pretty good. 1:11:19.920 --> 1:11:23.679 Yeah, I would say big pitcher for the whole roster. 1:11:23.800 --> 1:11:26.400 I agree that I think they've done an amazing job 1:11:26.439 --> 1:11:29.360 filling a lot of holes in a year and a 1:11:29.439 --> 1:11:33.719 year plus right last year and now so far this year. 1:11:34.520 --> 1:11:36.599 I would say one thing that would say, you know, 1:11:37.439 --> 1:11:40.640 they've addressed it, but we'll see if it works. So 1:11:40.800 --> 1:11:43.719 wide receiver where you're gonna have AJ Brown, most likely 1:11:43.760 --> 1:11:45.400 in Romeo Dobbs. 1:11:46.040 --> 1:11:49.320 Do they work? Yeah, So if they work, now you've 1:11:49.320 --> 1:11:50.560 given Drake. 1:11:50.360 --> 1:11:54.680 May As, let's just say minimally as much as you 1:11:54.760 --> 1:11:57.400 gave him last year, if not more, probably more, I 1:11:57.400 --> 1:11:59.320 would say more, right, depending on Brown. 1:11:59.360 --> 1:12:01.240 As long as that yeah, as long as that works. 1:12:01.280 --> 1:12:03.639 Now, if A. J. Brown's knees are shot and he's 1:12:03.680 --> 1:12:06.160 not you know, when he is on the decline and 1:12:06.280 --> 1:12:08.240 Romeo Dobbs kind of is what he is. He's just 1:12:08.280 --> 1:12:11.479 sort of a complimentary piece and nothing more, then you're 1:12:11.479 --> 1:12:14.760 probably gonna still be looking for some more weapons for 1:12:14.760 --> 1:12:16.200 for Drake may Next year. 1:12:16.439 --> 1:12:19.680 I mean maybe I like a Brown, we've addressed it. 1:12:19.680 --> 1:12:20.400 You can't say they didn't. 1:12:20.680 --> 1:12:24.080 Yeah, like a J. Brown, Romeo Dobbs and whoever wins 1:12:24.120 --> 1:12:28.960 out for the third Kyle Williams or maccollins or Booty 1:12:29.040 --> 1:12:31.320 or Pop are still on the roster at that point. 1:12:32.280 --> 1:12:35.240 Henry now rear it in. Yeah, you're blocking tight end 1:12:35.240 --> 1:12:38.639 and Julian Hill, and you also have Ramandre and Trevon 1:12:38.680 --> 1:12:39.920 Henderson as your two backs. 1:12:40.800 --> 1:12:40.960 Help. 1:12:41.040 --> 1:12:43.200 It's it's a pretty damn good roster. 1:12:42.960 --> 1:12:45.120 And you have all five offensive lineman figured out. 1:12:45.560 --> 1:12:50.200 The roster's gotten better, uh dramatically in just two seasons. Like, 1:12:50.320 --> 1:12:52.519 I don't know if you could ask much more out 1:12:52.560 --> 1:12:53.639 of these guys. 1:12:53.800 --> 1:12:56.160 Yeah, I think, you know, like the one spot I 1:12:56.320 --> 1:12:58.240 you know, would say in terms of high end talent, 1:12:58.320 --> 1:13:00.840 like we talked about receiver, like you know Akis has 1:13:00.880 --> 1:13:03.519 got a hit. You know, like akis Is is going 1:13:03.560 --> 1:13:06.320 to have to be you know, a double digit sack guy. 1:13:06.680 --> 1:13:09.040 You know, they don't really have that kind of player 1:13:09.120 --> 1:13:11.360 without him, you know, hitting his ceiling as a player. 1:13:11.400 --> 1:13:13.479 But even like I, you know a lot of people 1:13:13.560 --> 1:13:15.679 are talking about you know, well, they still need depth 1:13:15.680 --> 1:13:18.439 of safety, like Craig Woodson and Kevin Byrd is a 1:13:18.479 --> 1:13:20.200 pretty darn good starting safety. 1:13:20.240 --> 1:13:22.240 Exciting, right, And the reason I bring up the wide 1:13:22.280 --> 1:13:25.160 receiver thing, right is because if it works out that 1:13:25.680 --> 1:13:29.320 let's just say it's the worst case scenario and A J. 1:13:29.439 --> 1:13:31.479 Brown doesn't work, so he's probably going to be a 1:13:31.479 --> 1:13:33.120 one and done. They'll probably find a way to move 1:13:33.160 --> 1:13:35.960 on from him if he's not good. So now you'd 1:13:36.000 --> 1:13:39.000 have Dobbs next year. And then Mike has been talking 1:13:39.040 --> 1:13:41.240 about this for months. You know, the rest of the 1:13:41.280 --> 1:13:45.000 receivers basically are up, so you're really going to be 1:13:45.000 --> 1:13:48.599 looking for weapons in the passing game next year if 1:13:48.960 --> 1:13:49.720 it doesn't. 1:13:49.439 --> 1:13:52.439 Work out with the guys, guy, if A J. 1:13:52.600 --> 1:13:55.880 Brown is a twelve hundred yard receiver and Romeo Dobbs 1:13:55.880 --> 1:13:58.559 can go from you know, a complimentary piece to like 1:13:58.560 --> 1:13:58.960 a one A. 1:13:59.320 --> 1:14:04.080 Yeah, and you're draft back hit. Jerry Smith from the Buckeyes. 1:14:03.640 --> 1:14:05.439 Jerry Jerry Rice Jerry Well. 1:14:05.439 --> 1:14:09.400 The good news is that even besides Jeremiah Smith right now, 1:14:09.439 --> 1:14:12.160 on paper, it's a loaded wide receiver class next year, 1:14:12.439 --> 1:14:15.320 Like there's probably gonna be you know, some I would 1:14:15.400 --> 1:14:19.120 say at least three, if not number one, like true, 1:14:19.280 --> 1:14:22.559 like first round blue chip kind of receivers. Obviously, Jeremiah 1:14:22.560 --> 1:14:26.559 Smith's in his own stratosphere. But it's a good class, 1:14:26.600 --> 1:14:29.479 you know. But I just looked at you know, their 1:14:29.520 --> 1:14:33.479 their hour lads depth chart as work it does for hour, 1:14:33.800 --> 1:14:35.840 and I mean I was kind of like I got it. 1:14:36.040 --> 1:14:37.680 Maybe I'm a homer, but like, this looks like a 1:14:37.680 --> 1:14:41.320 pretty good roster, especially when you consider that Drake may 1:14:41.360 --> 1:14:43.800 is the quarterback and Mike Rabel's the coach. Like it's 1:14:43.880 --> 1:14:44.800 it's a pretty good team. 1:14:45.040 --> 1:14:45.799 I would agree. 1:14:45.960 --> 1:14:50.080 Simon California says, as a former offensive lineman and lifelong 1:14:50.160 --> 1:14:53.840 football fan, I'm disappointed in the Patriots drafting a left 1:14:53.840 --> 1:14:56.719 tackle who needs to build strength but had great pass 1:14:56.760 --> 1:15:00.000 protection skills in a run first Utah offense. 1:15:00.320 --> 1:15:00.719 Yeah. 1:15:00.760 --> 1:15:03.759 Will Campbell played through injury and has a mentality similar 1:15:03.840 --> 1:15:07.320 Logan Mankins. Meanwhile, one of the knocks and Lomo is 1:15:07.360 --> 1:15:10.120 his attitude to punish people. I hope for the best, 1:15:10.320 --> 1:15:12.559 but one hundred percent agree with Evan. We should have 1:15:12.600 --> 1:15:15.280 picked an edge at thirty one and got Markel Bell 1:15:15.360 --> 1:15:18.000 in the third round. And for Deuce, if you had 1:15:18.040 --> 1:15:20.800 to switch from left to right defense and hockey, how 1:15:20.800 --> 1:15:21.720 would that affect you? 1:15:21.800 --> 1:15:24.280 No problem? I mean you just slightly adjust it doesn't 1:15:24.439 --> 1:15:27.440 I mean, it's basically I would just say the breakouts 1:15:27.479 --> 1:15:29.720 and you know, both ends. So I'm playing on the wall. 1:15:29.760 --> 1:15:31.720 I got my stick on the left side easier than 1:15:32.120 --> 1:15:32.840 I'm on the right side. 1:15:32.840 --> 1:15:37.400 I gotta catch it if. 1:15:35.520 --> 1:15:37.679 You're gonna play pept I think. 1:15:40.040 --> 1:15:41.880 Five five left shots, I believe. 1:15:42.000 --> 1:15:44.160 Isn't it easier to play with your stick on the 1:15:44.520 --> 1:15:45.799 side of the boards though. 1:15:45.720 --> 1:15:47.519 Right, Yeah, I mean technically it is, but it's not 1:15:47.520 --> 1:15:49.280 that hard to just catch it on your back hand. 1:15:49.800 --> 1:15:50.320 It's something. 1:15:50.320 --> 1:15:52.799 But I didn't hear them what you got, Maddie. 1:15:53.040 --> 1:15:53.840 I was just making a joke. 1:15:53.880 --> 1:15:55.280 I said, you should sniff after that, duce. 1:15:55.840 --> 1:15:59.599 Oh well, sailors pick is in out one sixty nine. 1:16:00.120 --> 1:16:03.320 The Browns are on the clock at one seventies, so 1:16:03.360 --> 1:16:05.439 the Patriots might actually be on the clock. 1:16:05.720 --> 1:16:07.840 H Yeah, Buffalo didn't want to own the fifth round. 1:16:07.840 --> 1:16:09.320 By the way, they traded the second one of these. 1:16:10.400 --> 1:16:11.640 They took the kill guy that. 1:16:12.960 --> 1:16:16.200 Yeah, he's a like a big nickel, And like I 1:16:16.240 --> 1:16:19.280 said earlier, I really liked him. But you have to 1:16:19.280 --> 1:16:21.080 have a role in mind for a player like that, 1:16:21.200 --> 1:16:24.000 Like if that's not that role doesn't already exist in 1:16:24.040 --> 1:16:26.160 your defense. It's hard to just kind of create it 1:16:26.200 --> 1:16:26.840 out of thin air. 1:16:27.439 --> 1:16:30.080 Evan going into last year, thought Campbell was the best 1:16:30.160 --> 1:16:33.519 option among him, Membu and Banks. Does he feel the 1:16:33.560 --> 1:16:37.200 same today. Each had pretty similar seasons and Campbell finished poorly. 1:16:38.280 --> 1:16:42.439 I think that, yes, But you know, realistically, probably maybe 1:16:42.439 --> 1:16:44.240 a little bit closer between Campbell and Banks. I mean, 1:16:44.240 --> 1:16:47.040 membuo played right tackle, and he played right tackle in college, 1:16:47.040 --> 1:16:50.240 and he played right tackle for the Jets, So I'm 1:16:50.240 --> 1:16:52.800 not I'm just kind of not counting that one as much. 1:16:53.640 --> 1:16:57.920 But you know, Banks also didn't play the Chargers, the Texans, 1:16:58.120 --> 1:17:00.559 the Broncos in Seattle, and we didn't get to see 1:17:00.560 --> 1:17:01.920 the exposure of what he would have. 1:17:01.880 --> 1:17:04.960 Looked like against after an injury, four of the best. 1:17:04.680 --> 1:17:07.679 Pass rushers in football. So I didn't get hurt last year. 1:17:07.720 --> 1:17:08.519 I hadn't heard that. 1:17:10.120 --> 1:17:11.200 Snarky snarky ball. 1:17:11.320 --> 1:17:15.639 Yeah, Don and Philly. With Rabel not being available today, 1:17:15.680 --> 1:17:18.400 has Elliott reached out to Evan about selecting any of 1:17:18.439 --> 1:17:21.320 his my guys a little disrespectful if not? 1:17:21.600 --> 1:17:21.960 Has he? 1:17:22.200 --> 1:17:22.360 No? 1:17:22.400 --> 1:17:22.720 He has not. 1:17:22.920 --> 1:17:23.280 No. 1:17:23.280 --> 1:17:23.640 No, I. 1:17:26.040 --> 1:17:27.439 Will say the seventh round pick. 1:17:27.960 --> 1:17:30.200 I will say no because Nancy Meyer, I think is 1:17:30.200 --> 1:17:31.920 going to make a pick today and you know, shout 1:17:31.920 --> 1:17:33.920 out Nancy Meyer. This is probably one of her I mean, 1:17:33.960 --> 1:17:36.200 this is I think if for her last fifty one 1:17:36.600 --> 1:17:39.519 you know, season's been nineteen seventy four. One of my 1:17:39.520 --> 1:17:41.799 favorite moments of Super Bowl Week was that the party 1:17:41.800 --> 1:17:43.720 Paul you and I went up to Nancy. We you know, 1:17:43.800 --> 1:17:46.400 took a great picture with her, and she's just been 1:17:46.439 --> 1:17:49.519 so sweet to me. I mean, it's it's she is 1:17:49.560 --> 1:17:50.160 the Patriots. 1:17:50.160 --> 1:17:50.880 It's like I look at her. 1:17:50.920 --> 1:17:52.439 I mean, her and Tip are the two that have 1:17:52.520 --> 1:17:56.160 been here for every single Super Bowl and it's just 1:17:56.200 --> 1:17:57.400 such a wonderful person. 1:17:57.439 --> 1:18:00.000 And I'm you know, when we talk about all these 1:18:00.120 --> 1:18:03.360 things like like thirty visits and you know, when we 1:18:03.439 --> 1:18:06.200 picked these players and they come in and they you know, 1:18:06.200 --> 1:18:09.639 they get come to the organization. Nancy Meyers the clock 1:18:09.760 --> 1:18:12.519 and helping, you know, with all the logistics of all 1:18:12.520 --> 1:18:16.000 that kind of stuff. She is a truly special person. 1:18:16.000 --> 1:18:17.960 Even get into the combine this year where we all 1:18:18.000 --> 1:18:21.320 had to go through the snowstorm to get to Indianapolis. 1:18:21.760 --> 1:18:24.040 H you know, just organizing so that Elliott and the 1:18:24.040 --> 1:18:26.439 scouting staff can all get to Indianapolis. And all the 1:18:26.439 --> 1:18:29.759 different flights and rental cars and all the different things 1:18:29.760 --> 1:18:32.519 that you know, they had to jump through. I remember 1:18:32.520 --> 1:18:35.240 my first time flying on the plane and the Patriots 1:18:35.240 --> 1:18:36.679 are on the clock. So this is a longer story. 1:18:36.720 --> 1:18:40.479 So let's just you know, with Nancy and all the 1:18:40.720 --> 1:18:43.280 you know, the twenty dark years of Bill where we 1:18:43.280 --> 1:18:45.320 were the enemy and you couldn't talk to anyone and 1:18:45.320 --> 1:18:48.479 they couldn't talk to you. She was always, you know, 1:18:49.160 --> 1:18:53.320 nice and kind and always love the newspaper, always making 1:18:53.320 --> 1:18:55.480 sure there were copies down there for everybody. 1:18:56.400 --> 1:18:56.600 You know. 1:18:56.680 --> 1:18:59.479 So she wasn't, you know, like the others. 1:18:59.560 --> 1:19:02.679 Yeah, now, I mean I she didn't. She didn't pick 1:19:02.760 --> 1:19:05.080 my change my flight. But when I got to Indy, 1:19:05.160 --> 1:19:05.519 she was there. 1:19:05.600 --> 1:19:06.800 She's like hop in with us, Mike. 1:19:07.040 --> 1:19:08.200 She's a sweetheart. 1:19:08.240 --> 1:19:11.400 So the pick is in for the Patriots. Who is it? 1:19:11.479 --> 1:19:12.559 Yeah? 1:19:12.600 --> 1:19:13.439 I see who it is? 1:19:13.439 --> 1:19:14.439 I have not seen it? 1:19:14.600 --> 1:19:15.840 See yeah, who it is? 1:19:16.680 --> 1:19:20.080 Position will be on the defensive side of the ball 1:19:21.240 --> 1:19:26.000 in the secondary. I'm buying time right now. So someone 1:19:26.040 --> 1:19:30.720 I thought we weren't saying now, I'm not gonna tip it. 1:19:30.720 --> 1:19:33.320 I'll wait till we see it on on on Twitter. 1:19:33.360 --> 1:19:35.479 But and I did know this is the time nough 1:19:35.479 --> 1:19:37.519 where it's just I don't like I said, there's three 1:19:37.520 --> 1:19:40.040 positions I think they need at this point. 1:19:40.600 --> 1:19:41.040 B p A. 1:19:41.240 --> 1:19:43.280 If there's a guy in a positions it's not even one 1:19:43.280 --> 1:19:45.960 of those, but you really like them, go for it. 1:19:47.439 --> 1:19:52.400 Okay, So it should be this position. So you got 1:19:52.400 --> 1:19:53.040 your depth, all right? 1:19:53.080 --> 1:19:55.679 So it's out by Jordan Schultz, it's a wake Forest cornerback. 1:19:55.760 --> 1:19:59.479 Karen Prunty. Prunty, Yeah, carry did. 1:19:59.560 --> 1:20:01.480 I don't even I think this guy's in the beast. 1:20:01.640 --> 1:20:03.920 I'm not gonna lie to you, which is a first 1:20:04.000 --> 1:20:07.960 for for Dan Brugler. I'm not super familiar with him either. 1:20:08.120 --> 1:20:09.519 I I know that they had him in for a 1:20:09.520 --> 1:20:13.679 pre draft visit and it wasn't There weren't many teams 1:20:13.680 --> 1:20:15.479 that you know, had him in for visits. I think 1:20:15.479 --> 1:20:19.080 he only had a couple. He played some safety, if 1:20:19.120 --> 1:20:21.000 I remember correctly. So I don't know if he's going 1:20:21.080 --> 1:20:22.479 to be a corner or if he's going to be 1:20:22.520 --> 1:20:25.439 a safety at the next level. But you know, this 1:20:25.600 --> 1:20:28.800 is a guy that we kind of were talking about, right, 1:20:29.000 --> 1:20:33.680 you know, cornerback depth, safety depth, maybe special teams, you know, 1:20:33.760 --> 1:20:36.840 I would say most likely, but definitely sort of a 1:20:37.240 --> 1:20:41.280 hidden gem. 1:20:41.600 --> 1:20:46.719 Yeah, definitely, there is some film with him if you're interested. 1:20:46.760 --> 1:20:49.720 From Wake forest on on the tweet machine. Had had 1:20:49.800 --> 1:20:53.280 four visits during the pre draft process, one with the Patriots, 1:20:53.360 --> 1:20:54.040 So he is in the. 1:20:53.960 --> 1:20:56.600 Beast, but he's uh, he's in there as a priority 1:20:56.640 --> 1:20:58.559 free agent and he does not have a profile. 1:20:58.720 --> 1:21:00.519 Yeah, he's among the best of the rest, is he not? 1:21:00.800 --> 1:21:04.519 Because I'm looking at the cornerbacks and he's not on 1:21:04.600 --> 1:21:05.920 my top forty two. 1:21:06.160 --> 1:21:09.640 Yeah, this is cornerback fifty seven. Again, this is just 1:21:09.760 --> 1:21:13.680 Dane's rankings. Yeah, yeah, and he's a He has him 1:21:13.680 --> 1:21:17.280 as a UDFA grade in his and doesn't even have 1:21:17.400 --> 1:21:18.480 strengths and weaknesses. 1:21:18.920 --> 1:21:21.360 Yeah, on our lads, you know, they ranked from ten 1:21:22.040 --> 1:21:26.759 to zero and the lowest grade is a two point five. 1:21:27.800 --> 1:21:29.200 He's at a two point nine to two. 1:21:30.200 --> 1:21:32.360 So he's got to be a special teams guy with 1:21:32.400 --> 1:21:35.639 some with some traits that they think can can contribute 1:21:35.680 --> 1:21:36.400 in special teams. 1:21:36.479 --> 1:21:39.040 Yeah, four, four, five, forty nothing you know, too special. 1:21:39.040 --> 1:21:41.080 But it does look like he has some size to him. 1:21:41.080 --> 1:21:44.360 So does he return kicks at all or anything like that. 1:21:44.640 --> 1:21:44.680 No. 1:21:44.760 --> 1:21:46.960 The week into that I remember about him because they 1:21:46.960 --> 1:21:49.400 did have him in for a pre draft visit was 1:21:49.439 --> 1:21:51.720 that he played a little bit of both safety and 1:21:51.920 --> 1:21:56.960 cornerback in college. So maybe special teams guy, maybe some 1:21:57.040 --> 1:21:59.120 depth on the roster at you know, maybe both of 1:21:59.120 --> 1:22:02.200 those positions, one those positions. I guess we'll see where 1:22:02.240 --> 1:22:05.040 they end up playing him. But you know, someone that 1:22:05.800 --> 1:22:08.800 is pretty off the beaten path. They picked the guy that, 1:22:09.040 --> 1:22:10.800 I mean when he doesn't even have it right up 1:22:10.800 --> 1:22:12.439 in the that's when you. 1:22:12.400 --> 1:22:15.080 Know that goes is now, Like we have people we 1:22:15.080 --> 1:22:17.480 work with who have to are scrambling to find highlights. 1:22:18.040 --> 1:22:20.080 Some random guy that this is gonna be why we're 1:22:20.080 --> 1:22:21.280 going to be hearing about this week. 1:22:21.320 --> 1:22:23.880 All right, and Matista, if you're listening, don't text me 1:22:23.920 --> 1:22:25.519 for an expert announces. 1:22:25.200 --> 1:22:26.800 Right now, let's not be making it up off the 1:22:26.840 --> 1:22:27.080 top of. 1:22:29.360 --> 1:22:32.040 I'm surprised a little bit just the fact that, you know, 1:22:32.520 --> 1:22:35.080 there's some linebackers especially that are so on board. Now 1:22:35.120 --> 1:22:37.120 they have three six round picks, so maybe they feel 1:22:37.160 --> 1:22:39.560 like the some of those linebackers are are going to 1:22:39.600 --> 1:22:43.520 make it to them in the sixth round. But you know, I, 1:22:43.520 --> 1:22:45.960 I don't know, you know where this guy slots in 1:22:45.960 --> 1:22:48.280 in terms of being able to contribute you know, on 1:22:48.400 --> 1:22:52.840 the actual defense versus contributing on special teams. But you know, 1:22:52.880 --> 1:22:56.120 whether it was Perkins, you know, Aiden Fisher, Jack Kelly, 1:22:57.640 --> 1:23:01.040 Deontay lost In, I know has some injury history, Red 1:23:01.120 --> 1:23:03.960 Murdoch from Buffalo, like those are all guys that people 1:23:04.040 --> 1:23:07.599 projected at that linebacker position that they thought we're going 1:23:07.640 --> 1:23:09.920 to be able to be you know, decent players even 1:23:09.960 --> 1:23:13.120 at safety. You know, guys like VJ. Payin is still available, 1:23:13.680 --> 1:23:17.439 Bishop Fitzgerald, Lewis Moore. So I thought that there were 1:23:17.479 --> 1:23:20.920 some guys that actually could still potentially contribute, you know, 1:23:21.000 --> 1:23:23.760 on defense, that it was still available, and they went 1:23:23.840 --> 1:23:27.080 with with Prunty, who I'm not super familiar with. 1:23:27.400 --> 1:23:30.439 Okay, well they it'll be interesting to hear, is it 1:23:30.439 --> 1:23:33.599 Elliott that's going to talk today? Yes, So I'm sure 1:23:33.720 --> 1:23:36.080 you know that'll be the question, what did what do 1:23:36.120 --> 1:23:38.559 you know about this guy? Why do you like him? 1:23:38.760 --> 1:23:39.080 Yeah? 1:23:39.120 --> 1:23:43.240 Why did you pick him in the fifth round? So 1:23:43.360 --> 1:23:46.200 we'll say about that. So now the next pick is 1:23:46.240 --> 1:23:46.759 how long. 1:23:47.960 --> 1:23:49.920 I think they're the tenth in the next round, so 1:23:50.000 --> 1:23:54.439 it's uh not to not too long. It is we're 1:23:54.479 --> 1:23:56.599 one seventy two and they got to get ninety one 1:23:56.720 --> 1:24:01.120 ninety one, so about nineteen picks. Ye picks in yah, 1:24:01.320 --> 1:24:01.719 we go. 1:24:03.400 --> 1:24:05.280 In the next two picks, So. 1:24:05.240 --> 1:24:07.920 He might make we might make it to those maybe me, 1:24:08.320 --> 1:24:11.559 I don't know, but it is interesting. This is just 1:24:11.600 --> 1:24:17.320 another day three cornerback Marcella's style Kobe Minor, uh, now 1:24:17.320 --> 1:24:19.519 you add punty to that mix. Brandon Crossley was a 1:24:19.520 --> 1:24:22.599 practice squad guy last year. Can someone emerge from that group? 1:24:22.640 --> 1:24:24.840 Can someone? I thought last year Mark Marcello's style actually 1:24:24.880 --> 1:24:25.800 was starting to show a little bit. 1:24:25.840 --> 1:24:29.439 This a lot like Kobe Minor to me in my mind, 1:24:29.600 --> 1:24:33.080 like probably has some fish. They think he can play 1:24:33.439 --> 1:24:36.600 on special teams and then we'll see, you know, like 1:24:37.040 --> 1:24:39.640 Marcellus dial and I know, like people laugh at me 1:24:39.920 --> 1:24:43.400 because I'm so disinterested in like these kinds of things. 1:24:43.400 --> 1:24:46.479 But he developed into a really really good guy on 1:24:46.920 --> 1:24:48.760 the punting, like a really good vice guy. 1:24:48.800 --> 1:24:49.000 Yeah. 1:24:49.040 --> 1:24:52.320 Yeah, And that was a hole that they they thought 1:24:52.439 --> 1:24:54.000 enough to fill out. I think that's kind of what 1:24:54.080 --> 1:24:56.160 led to Chucky Trees when they went out and got 1:24:56.240 --> 1:24:58.920 Charles Woods early in the year. They needed a guy 1:24:58.960 --> 1:25:02.000 that could fill that kind of role. You know, we'll 1:25:02.000 --> 1:25:05.240 see what kind of skills, you know, once he has 1:25:05.280 --> 1:25:08.160 I'm not This is no question the guy that I 1:25:08.240 --> 1:25:09.479 did not on my radar at all. 1:25:09.760 --> 1:25:12.960 Yeah, barely on Danes radar. Yeah. 1:25:13.320 --> 1:25:14.000 I'm not here to. 1:25:13.960 --> 1:25:16.240 Trash a pick of a player that I'm not familiar. 1:25:16.240 --> 1:25:16.519 You know what. 1:25:17.280 --> 1:25:19.680 I'll say this, and you know, because I rattled off 1:25:19.720 --> 1:25:22.120 some guys that I liked that were still available in 1:25:22.120 --> 1:25:24.679 this range, it's not quite this. You know, I knew 1:25:24.680 --> 1:25:26.320 who Craig Woodson was, and I knew a little bit 1:25:26.360 --> 1:25:28.880 more about him, but Craig Woodson was the one pick 1:25:28.960 --> 1:25:30.760 last year where I felt like they went off the 1:25:30.760 --> 1:25:34.360 beaten path and against consensus, he ended up being one 1:25:34.400 --> 1:25:36.760 of the best picks of the draft for them last year. 1:25:36.760 --> 1:25:38.479 I don't know if this is going to be Craig Woodson. 1:25:38.479 --> 1:25:41.400 I'm not saying that, but you know, the Patriots they 1:25:41.720 --> 1:25:43.360 have a little bit of rope with me because of 1:25:43.479 --> 1:25:46.000 the Craig Woodson thing that you know, maybe they see 1:25:46.000 --> 1:25:48.800 a player differently, they have a different evaluation and a 1:25:48.800 --> 1:25:51.639 different grade on him, and uh, you know, they they're 1:25:51.680 --> 1:25:53.120 higher on him than everybody else's. 1:25:53.160 --> 1:25:55.639 It is funny though, the gravesman you draft who. 1:25:57.920 --> 1:26:04.480 I was hoping stop stop. 1:26:06.560 --> 1:26:07.080 Now, we'll see. 1:26:07.080 --> 1:26:09.839 But that's a position where they have a bunch of guys, 1:26:10.280 --> 1:26:12.639 but can any of them play, can any of them contribute? 1:26:12.640 --> 1:26:14.960 I don't really know whereas you know, linebacker. To Evan's point, 1:26:15.040 --> 1:26:18.439 they don't really have a bunch of guys. Chad Muma, I. 1:26:18.400 --> 1:26:19.120 Forgot about him. 1:26:19.200 --> 1:26:22.559 Yeah, he was dressing late in the year, especially came 1:26:22.560 --> 1:26:24.120 in as a special teams guy and he played a 1:26:24.120 --> 1:26:26.040 little bit. I mean, he was a little bit more 1:26:26.080 --> 1:26:28.599 highly touted, So you know, maybe they see some potential 1:26:28.600 --> 1:26:28.880 in him. 1:26:28.880 --> 1:26:30.639 I don't know, at least at least some of the depths. 1:26:30.760 --> 1:26:33.360 Good point, Mike, that's another element of the because that's 1:26:33.400 --> 1:26:35.400 what you're looking for, is another depth guy that can 1:26:35.400 --> 1:26:38.120 play special teams and he was playing in that role 1:26:38.240 --> 1:26:40.639 late in the year. Yep, maybe they liked what they saw. 1:26:40.720 --> 1:26:43.240 Yeah, they saw those three six round picks. And you know, 1:26:43.280 --> 1:26:45.559 some of the linebackers that I've been hyping up are 1:26:45.680 --> 1:26:47.840 still on the board, and yeah, they're still going. 1:26:47.840 --> 1:26:51.760 And I'm not gonna lie because I'm so immature. When 1:26:52.040 --> 1:26:54.639 the Patriots sort of let go of you know, Jack 1:26:54.640 --> 1:26:59.000 Gibbons and then decided to release Jolani Tavai, and you know, 1:26:59.080 --> 1:27:00.800 one after another or breathlessly. 1:27:01.320 --> 1:27:03.880 This is a big need. This is a big need. 1:27:04.080 --> 1:27:07.040 You know, like everybody you know sort of overreacting to 1:27:07.280 --> 1:27:11.320 like depth linebackers as a need. And then you know, 1:27:11.360 --> 1:27:13.240 we all the three of us kind of had some 1:27:13.320 --> 1:27:16.400 fun on April thirteenth when we had the Elliott Wolf 1:27:16.439 --> 1:27:19.599 pre draft press conference and he specifically said, yeah, we'll 1:27:19.640 --> 1:27:22.920 be looking at some of those Day three linebackers. And 1:27:23.040 --> 1:27:25.519 you know, here we are in round five taking a 1:27:25.600 --> 1:27:28.960 cornerback that no one's really overly familiar with. Obviously they 1:27:29.000 --> 1:27:32.280 didn't see it as as big a need as everybody 1:27:32.320 --> 1:27:32.800 else did. 1:27:32.880 --> 1:27:35.200 And you know, whether it's you know, that big guy 1:27:35.240 --> 1:27:40.240 in the middle like Tonga, or these linebackers that you 1:27:40.280 --> 1:27:42.320 know we could use right now, you can be able 1:27:42.360 --> 1:27:43.400 to get them off the street. 1:27:44.000 --> 1:27:46.439 There's always options. This isn't the end of it. 1:27:47.080 --> 1:27:50.040 Yeah, Tonga was a free agent. That was that was 1:27:50.040 --> 1:27:52.000 an unrestricted free agent. He was off the street. 1:27:52.120 --> 1:27:55.160 Now, well, yeah, but he was a seventh round pick 1:27:55.160 --> 1:27:57.120 that he was available, that is what I'm saying. 1:27:57.600 --> 1:27:58.200 No, he was. 1:27:58.479 --> 1:28:00.920 He played for another team and they didn't resign them. 1:28:01.080 --> 1:28:03.920 It's like that's like an office street free agentsy guys 1:28:03.920 --> 1:28:04.519 out of the league. 1:28:04.520 --> 1:28:07.480 And you just he's a jump but there'll be people available. 1:28:07.640 --> 1:28:10.200 Yeah, no, I agree with your premise about Yeah, like 1:28:10.280 --> 1:28:12.160 you can find these guys I should. 1:28:12.320 --> 1:28:14.120 I mean even a nose tackle too. I think like 1:28:14.160 --> 1:28:15.760 if they got out of the draft without one, and 1:28:15.800 --> 1:28:17.920 even at this point expecting a nose tackle, they draft 1:28:17.920 --> 1:28:20.040 to come in and beat the Tonga guy and rotate, 1:28:20.439 --> 1:28:23.559 probably asking him a bit much. But you can always 1:28:23.560 --> 1:28:25.439 there's always guys out there on the street that you 1:28:25.439 --> 1:28:27.200 can try to find, especially at that position where you 1:28:27.280 --> 1:28:29.360 really just need a two down with stuff. 1:28:29.240 --> 1:28:32.720 Specific role, you know, a one dimensional player. But that's 1:28:32.760 --> 1:28:34.120 all I need, you know. 1:28:34.800 --> 1:28:36.840 I mean, even the nose tackles, there are still guys 1:28:36.840 --> 1:28:37.160 out there. 1:28:37.240 --> 1:28:39.280 Carl Davis remember him, like it was that his name, 1:28:39.320 --> 1:28:42.559 Carl Davis, Carl he was nose tackles. Really, is that right? 1:28:42.960 --> 1:28:45.439 I feel like I'm compe with Carlton. Yeah, no, I 1:28:45.479 --> 1:28:47.080 know ninety eight. 1:28:47.720 --> 1:28:52.920 Yeah, yeah, I know who you're talking about. There's still 1:28:52.920 --> 1:28:55.840 some nose tackles available that I liked. And you know, 1:28:56.000 --> 1:28:58.720 like I said earlier that that position is just so 1:28:58.880 --> 1:29:01.360 specialized that are not going to be high draft picks 1:29:01.479 --> 1:29:03.960 right when you're gonna play a run stuffing nose tackle 1:29:04.040 --> 1:29:07.040 as it's like Kayden McDonald and he's like a dude. 1:29:06.800 --> 1:29:10.960 Like he's, yeah, he's I'm going to be showing everybody 1:29:10.960 --> 1:29:12.200 I'm the best player in this draft. 1:29:12.400 --> 1:29:12.599 Yeah. 1:29:12.600 --> 1:29:16.360 But like the Godfather, Dante Corleone, you know, tend to 1:29:16.400 --> 1:29:19.000 call her called in about Tim Keenan. You know, these 1:29:19.040 --> 1:29:20.559 are all guys that might just make it to their 1:29:20.600 --> 1:29:22.360 picks in the sixth round. You know, some of these 1:29:22.360 --> 1:29:23.719 linebackers and nose tackles. 1:29:24.080 --> 1:29:24.240 Uh. 1:29:24.320 --> 1:29:28.120 Corleone had a blood clots issue earlier on in his 1:29:28.880 --> 1:29:32.559 college career, so maybe that has you know, been a 1:29:32.600 --> 1:29:35.439 flag for some teams, has been flagged in the medical 1:29:35.479 --> 1:29:37.320 process because I thought he was going to go ahead it, 1:29:37.800 --> 1:29:40.760 you know, earlier than this. So maybe that is contributing there. 1:29:40.840 --> 1:29:44.920 And even you know some of the guys like Xavian Harris, 1:29:44.920 --> 1:29:47.320 who has some off field stuff, you know, for Sean Benny, 1:29:47.439 --> 1:29:50.360 Like there's still some guys on the defensive line too, 1:29:50.439 --> 1:29:53.200 So uh, you know, I think the sixth round still 1:29:53.200 --> 1:29:54.559 has some value in it, uh. 1:29:54.560 --> 1:29:57.839 Walker Walker from the Berks Hears. Let's get one thing straight. 1:29:58.360 --> 1:30:01.000 Our roster is pretty staffed now with the addition of 1:30:01.000 --> 1:30:04.120 AJ Brown and a stronger run game. It's looking pretty good. 1:30:04.600 --> 1:30:06.879 But what's the biggest concern on offense? 1:30:07.400 --> 1:30:10.160 If Drake may takes the leap forward in year two 1:30:10.160 --> 1:30:13.200 of the system that he needs to make mental yeah, 1:30:13.320 --> 1:30:14.560 I think that. I mean, I think that to me 1:30:14.640 --> 1:30:17.599 will determine how good they are. How can you know 1:30:17.680 --> 1:30:19.559 how they handled this year. It's gonna be tougher year 1:30:19.560 --> 1:30:21.120 for them. They're probably gonna have more injuries than they 1:30:21.160 --> 1:30:24.479 had last year. You know, games might not unfold all 1:30:24.520 --> 1:30:26.200 in their favor where they're up ten to nothing and 1:30:26.560 --> 1:30:28.840 playing from a position to strength. So I think if 1:30:28.920 --> 1:30:31.240 Drake takes the step that they want him to take 1:30:31.280 --> 1:30:33.439 and that they think he can take, then I think 1:30:33.439 --> 1:30:35.080 that'll help them. I think that they've done a really 1:30:35.120 --> 1:30:37.280 good job of filling a lot of holes in the roster. 1:30:37.400 --> 1:30:40.880 I would not call this roster stacked. So my biggest 1:30:40.920 --> 1:30:44.000 concern would be what I talked about about a half 1:30:44.040 --> 1:30:49.000 hour ago. You address the pass catchers. Does your addressing 1:30:49.280 --> 1:30:52.960 the guys that you addressed, do they work? And in 1:30:53.080 --> 1:30:57.200 conjunction with that, do the guys that you have in place. 1:30:58.400 --> 1:31:01.400 You know, we talked about how good everything was last year. 1:31:01.479 --> 1:31:03.120 Mike keeps talking about like, you know, you played a 1:31:03.160 --> 1:31:05.479 lot of games on your terms. Are those guys going 1:31:05.560 --> 1:31:07.160 to be as good as they were last year or 1:31:07.160 --> 1:31:09.600 did they level off a little bit? You know, like, 1:31:09.920 --> 1:31:12.800 and it starts with Drake. Drake was an MVP last year. 1:31:12.920 --> 1:31:13.080 Yep. 1:31:13.960 --> 1:31:17.680 Does he level off? Does he play better? Well? Does 1:31:17.720 --> 1:31:18.920 he take a step back? You know? 1:31:18.960 --> 1:31:21.320 Maybe everybody says, you know, what we saw in the 1:31:21.320 --> 1:31:23.160 playoffs that if you can sort of take away that 1:31:23.240 --> 1:31:25.040 deep stuff and make him do it in a different 1:31:25.040 --> 1:31:27.679 way and get you know, get in his face early 1:31:27.720 --> 1:31:29.439 in games, you can kind of get them up. There's 1:31:29.439 --> 1:31:30.920 a lot of different things that can happen. 1:31:31.000 --> 1:31:32.200 Like, what are my concerns. 1:31:32.200 --> 1:31:35.320 My concerns are AJ Brown's not AJ Brown anymore and 1:31:35.400 --> 1:31:37.439 Romeo Dobbs is just a complimentary piece. 1:31:37.640 --> 1:31:40.920 Yeah, well, I love that point, Paul, and I would 1:31:40.920 --> 1:31:43.200 say I do wonder if that's how teams viewed Drake, 1:31:43.280 --> 1:31:45.800 to say, take away the deep stuff from him, make 1:31:45.880 --> 1:31:48.479 him read it out and take the take the underneath change. 1:31:48.600 --> 1:31:52.200 We get bored the Patriots made it could have this way. 1:31:52.200 --> 1:31:54.320 It could happen where the Patriots have not as good 1:31:54.360 --> 1:31:56.240 a record this year as last year, but they're. 1:31:56.040 --> 1:31:58.240 A better team. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, they. 1:31:58.840 --> 1:32:01.080 Could be a better back this year, but not be 1:32:01.160 --> 1:32:03.240 an MVP can Yeah yeah, you know, no, I could 1:32:03.320 --> 1:32:03.800 happen too. 1:32:03.880 --> 1:32:06.680 I think more than it could happen, I think there's 1:32:06.720 --> 1:32:08.559 a very good chance that that it does happen. 1:32:08.720 --> 1:32:10.960 And I would say if he plays better than he 1:32:11.000 --> 1:32:13.439 played last year, he'll be an MVP candidate again, because 1:32:13.479 --> 1:32:15.519 I don't know, he played at an exceptionally high. 1:32:15.439 --> 1:32:18.280 Level last year. Yeah yeah, and especially if he's going 1:32:18.280 --> 1:32:20.760 into Seattle, going into Kansas City, I mean tearing up 1:32:20.800 --> 1:32:21.720 those teams, Like. 1:32:21.800 --> 1:32:25.080 Yeah, I mean, these are just concerns because he asked 1:32:25.080 --> 1:32:28.000 for concerns. These are not things I'm expecting. I like 1:32:28.040 --> 1:32:30.519 where the roster is, I like where they're headed. I 1:32:30.560 --> 1:32:33.360 think the arrow was pointing up. But he's asking for 1:32:33.680 --> 1:32:35.800 things that you I would worry that he levels off 1:32:35.840 --> 1:32:37.240 a little bit and doesn't play as well as he 1:32:37.240 --> 1:32:39.720 did last year because he played so well last year. 1:32:39.760 --> 1:32:42.880 It's almost like, how could he possibly get better? 1:32:42.960 --> 1:32:43.360 And I. 1:32:45.080 --> 1:32:47.760 Still think it's the offensive line, Like he's a good 1:32:47.760 --> 1:32:49.040 one too. It's a good one too. 1:32:49.040 --> 1:32:51.920 They're all connected because you are making me open my mind, 1:32:52.160 --> 1:32:54.880 like Campbell, if he doesn't don't mock me play the 1:32:54.920 --> 1:32:57.679 first way he did the first fourteen weeks of the season. 1:32:57.920 --> 1:32:59.320 He doesn't take a step forward. 1:33:00.240 --> 1:33:00.360 Vera. 1:33:00.479 --> 1:33:03.400 Tucker's got to stay healthy. You know, Jared Wilson's moving 1:33:03.400 --> 1:33:05.360 into center. We think he's going to be better at 1:33:05.400 --> 1:33:06.800 center than he was at guard. 1:33:06.560 --> 1:33:08.439 But we don't know if he's going to be better 1:33:08.439 --> 1:33:09.599 than Bradbury was at center. 1:33:09.760 --> 1:33:09.960 Right. 1:33:10.040 --> 1:33:13.559 And you know, then with Morgan Moses thirty five years old, well, 1:33:13.600 --> 1:33:16.040 does he play seventeen games? Does he play seventeen games? 1:33:16.040 --> 1:33:18.120 Does he play at the same level? Does Lomu have 1:33:18.160 --> 1:33:19.519 to play more than you want him to have to 1:33:19.520 --> 1:33:22.400 play as a rookie? I you know, I hear what 1:33:22.479 --> 1:33:24.640 all you guys are saying about Drake May. But I 1:33:25.200 --> 1:33:27.640 think Drake May established himself that he's going to be 1:33:27.680 --> 1:33:29.160 playing at a pretty high level too. 1:33:29.360 --> 1:33:32.040 But Mike is right, like they're all connected. 1:33:32.439 --> 1:33:35.599 Yeah, Like you could make an argument that Drake May 1:33:35.680 --> 1:33:38.439 played fine in the playoffs, but he had less time 1:33:38.479 --> 1:33:39.960 to do it. Or you can make an argument and 1:33:39.960 --> 1:33:43.240 said the offensive line was the same all year, but 1:33:43.360 --> 1:33:44.800 Drake made him look better than they were in the 1:33:44.800 --> 1:33:46.960 regular season. He couldn't do that in the playoffs. Depends 1:33:46.960 --> 1:33:47.679 on your perspective. 1:33:47.760 --> 1:33:50.440 Yeah, but it's all related, right, and you can compensate 1:33:50.560 --> 1:33:53.000 for if the offensive line isn't quite as good, but 1:33:53.479 --> 1:33:57.240 AJ Brown and Dobbs are excellent, and then that's going 1:33:57.240 --> 1:33:58.120 to offset some of it. 1:33:58.840 --> 1:33:59.760 You know, how does it all fit? 1:34:00.040 --> 1:34:01.680 You could play the law of averages and be a 1:34:01.720 --> 1:34:04.680 real down. Let's say everything worked out last year. The 1:34:04.720 --> 1:34:06.000 odds are everything's not. 1:34:05.920 --> 1:34:07.920 Going well and unfortunately, friend, like, I'm not going to 1:34:07.960 --> 1:34:11.200 say that it's going to be it's going to be 1:34:11.200 --> 1:34:12.320 more in the middle of the pack. 1:34:12.240 --> 1:34:14.880 And that's your theory of you could be better this 1:34:15.040 --> 1:34:17.200 year than you were last year and not win as 1:34:17.240 --> 1:34:18.000 many games. 1:34:17.800 --> 1:34:21.400 Right to me, that's that's schedule related. Their schedule and 1:34:22.360 --> 1:34:25.200 is much harder and injury related to Yeah, yeah, their 1:34:25.240 --> 1:34:27.760 schedule is much harder, and you know they're going to 1:34:27.800 --> 1:34:29.040 be playing on much better team. 1:34:29.040 --> 1:34:31.240 Russell and Florida. I was really hoping that we would 1:34:31.320 --> 1:34:33.400 jump back into the fourth, but I'm assuming that they 1:34:33.439 --> 1:34:36.599 feel the talent left isn't worth the move. That being said, 1:34:36.600 --> 1:34:39.080 do you think that by the sixth round they start 1:34:39.200 --> 1:34:42.240 using picks on UDFA guys that they like, you think 1:34:42.320 --> 1:34:45.519 Taylor Green could be on their radar? At one seventy 1:34:45.560 --> 1:34:47.840 one or if he slips to the sixth, Well. 1:34:47.680 --> 1:34:49.720 I think kron Punty might have been a guy that 1:34:50.160 --> 1:34:53.920 was closer to you, UDFA. And you know they talked 1:34:53.960 --> 1:34:55.800 about the drop off in this draft. I mean the 1:34:55.800 --> 1:34:57.280 fact that that's happening in the fifth round. 1:34:57.360 --> 1:35:00.160 Well, I just thought of something with Elliott said, we 1:35:00.200 --> 1:35:03.559 don't have Mike Rabel to do the recruiting for the UDFA, 1:35:03.720 --> 1:35:05.800 we better maybe the thinking we might as well get 1:35:05.880 --> 1:35:07.320 him now and not have to recruit them. 1:35:07.360 --> 1:35:10.080 Do you have your numbers on your your fancy little 1:35:10.120 --> 1:35:10.880 geek chart for them? 1:35:10.880 --> 1:35:11.800 I'm sorry chart? 1:35:12.080 --> 1:35:12.840 Yes, for what. 1:35:13.800 --> 1:35:16.280 Number on how many players are currently on the roster? 1:35:17.840 --> 1:35:19.600 You have an added I can tell actually hold on, 1:35:19.640 --> 1:35:20.800 give me ten seconds a. 1:35:20.880 --> 1:35:23.320 Right, yeah effort that. I also, I'm going to throw 1:35:23.320 --> 1:35:26.479 this one to you. Well, Mike's doing his his geek count. Yes, 1:35:27.280 --> 1:35:29.200 email just brought up Taylor Green. Are you interested in 1:35:29.240 --> 1:35:31.679 the quarterback here and any of these last four picks? 1:35:32.400 --> 1:35:36.160 I'd be fine with it. I think the backup quarterback 1:35:36.160 --> 1:35:38.320 thing always goes one away. Taylor Green is like a 1:35:38.439 --> 1:35:40.880 raw ball of clay. But that's a developmental pick. That's 1:35:40.920 --> 1:35:42.559 Joe Milton is what that is. 1:35:42.760 --> 1:35:44.040 I just meant the position in Jai. 1:35:44.200 --> 1:35:46.920 Yeah, I think that, you know, I get that they 1:35:46.960 --> 1:35:49.960 count on Tommy DeVito and they feel good about Tommy DeVito, 1:35:50.080 --> 1:35:52.160 but I'd have no problem with it. Like, but the 1:35:52.240 --> 1:35:54.559 question is is do you go with a guy like 1:35:54.600 --> 1:35:56.920 Taylor Green, who's Joe Milton. I mean maybe not with 1:35:56.960 --> 1:36:01.000 the arm talent, but the mobility and size and all 1:36:01.040 --> 1:36:04.200 the you know, physical tools, or you know the kid 1:36:04.240 --> 1:36:06.760 from Yukon who's like more of like that's just going 1:36:06.840 --> 1:36:08.800 to be Chase Daniel, Like that's going to be your 1:36:08.880 --> 1:36:12.479 classic NFL backup quarterback for the next ten years. I 1:36:12.479 --> 1:36:15.080 think you had one pick the entire season last year. 1:36:15.360 --> 1:36:17.040 You know, that's going to be that type of player. 1:36:17.280 --> 1:36:19.600 You know, which direction would you rather go in in 1:36:19.720 --> 1:36:21.639 terms of you know, getting I guess if you feel 1:36:21.680 --> 1:36:24.240 good about de Vito, like maybe you take the chance 1:36:24.280 --> 1:36:24.839 on the upside. 1:36:24.960 --> 1:36:27.000 Another great name has a Kaya Mass. 1:36:27.040 --> 1:36:28.880 I liked him. I had him on the big board. 1:36:29.120 --> 1:36:31.920 I really liked him. I thought he was really smooth 1:36:31.920 --> 1:36:36.000 in his pedal, silky smooth hips right flip and run. 1:36:36.080 --> 1:36:38.559 Maybe not as good in man coverage right now, but 1:36:39.280 --> 1:36:41.360 I thought he was a really good zone corner already. 1:36:42.320 --> 1:36:45.000 I think I'm at seventy two, so seventy two for 1:36:45.040 --> 1:36:50.320 the draft, So seventy six seventy two with eight picks, right, 1:36:50.360 --> 1:36:53.040 Oh yeah, yeah, that they haven't But you haven't counted 1:36:53.040 --> 1:36:54.840 any draft picks yet. I didn't count I just did 1:36:54.880 --> 1:36:55.439 seventy two. 1:36:55.680 --> 1:36:59.320 Seventy two draft picks without draft, so that's eighty So 1:36:59.360 --> 1:37:02.000 there is still them for some new DFAs. Yeah, yeah, 1:37:02.280 --> 1:37:03.080 got ten more spots. 1:37:03.080 --> 1:37:05.200 I'm I'm gonna double check that though, But I mean 1:37:05.240 --> 1:37:05.720 it's you. 1:37:05.880 --> 1:37:08.160 You're talking to eight to ten spots. Yeah, like you 1:37:08.200 --> 1:37:11.880 know whether it's exact or not. So yeah, I mean, 1:37:11.880 --> 1:37:13.600 I guess there is some room. I was kind of 1:37:13.600 --> 1:37:16.000 thinking they wouldn't have a tremendous amount of room for 1:37:16.160 --> 1:37:19.840 u DFAs this year because of the increase of the 1:37:19.880 --> 1:37:21.800 caliber of the roster. You're in a better sets than 1:37:21.800 --> 1:37:23.720 you were last year, but you still have room for 1:37:23.840 --> 1:37:25.000 some That's how I. 1:37:24.920 --> 1:37:28.280 Feel too, with you know, eleven draft picks going into 1:37:28.280 --> 1:37:30.599 the draft. Yeah, it just felt like a lot, especially 1:37:30.640 --> 1:37:34.120 in a draft but you know, less talent like this one. 1:37:34.360 --> 1:37:36.479 And they seem like they kind of agreed because they 1:37:36.560 --> 1:37:38.880 traded you know, their two fourth round picks to move 1:37:38.960 --> 1:37:41.720 up in the first two days and kind of consolidated 1:37:41.720 --> 1:37:42.479 the picks a little bit. 1:37:42.720 --> 1:37:45.080 Uh Don and Philly. Everyone is saying that the AFC 1:37:45.120 --> 1:37:48.479 East is cooking in this draft. I'm not worried about 1:37:48.520 --> 1:37:50.640 the Jets or Dolphins, but the Bills seem to be 1:37:50.680 --> 1:37:54.360 stockpiling slot receivers with the move tight ends on their roster. 1:37:54.520 --> 1:37:55.320 What is their goal? 1:37:55.640 --> 1:37:57.320 Yeah, I don't we then' that's some commentary. 1:37:57.360 --> 1:37:59.160 I don't love some of the I love some of 1:37:59.160 --> 1:38:01.680 the stuff that the Bills have done. I don't hate it, 1:38:01.720 --> 1:38:04.600 but I don't I would have looked for more of 1:38:04.640 --> 1:38:07.439 a dynamic presence at the receiver position than just another 1:38:07.479 --> 1:38:10.800 slot kind of guy. But I do think the Jets 1:38:10.840 --> 1:38:12.439 have had a nice draft, and we talked a lot 1:38:12.439 --> 1:38:16.439 about the Jets yesterday. I think if and it's a 1:38:16.439 --> 1:38:19.040 big if because he's coming off a horrific season, if 1:38:19.080 --> 1:38:23.519 Gino Smith gives them passable quarterback play, I think they 1:38:23.560 --> 1:38:26.439 have the makings of a decent offense. And they're trying 1:38:26.439 --> 1:38:29.160 to rebuild the defense on a fly after really gutting 1:38:29.200 --> 1:38:31.920 it last year with Quinn Williams and Sauce Gardner and 1:38:31.960 --> 1:38:36.960 all those guys leaving. I think if they if Gino 1:38:37.000 --> 1:38:39.920 Smith has a decent year, I don't think them knocking 1:38:39.960 --> 1:38:44.880 on the door of you know, six seven wins, you know, 1:38:45.040 --> 1:38:47.120 in other words, not just two that you just pencil 1:38:47.160 --> 1:38:49.800 in automatic like you did this year, because they were 1:38:49.800 --> 1:38:53.519 so bad this year, they weren't beating you next year. 1:38:53.560 --> 1:38:55.479 I could see them being in a position where if 1:38:55.479 --> 1:38:57.519 you don't take if you don't take them seriously and 1:38:57.560 --> 1:38:59.120 you don't show up to play, you could be in 1:38:59.160 --> 1:38:59.679 some trouble. 1:39:00.200 --> 1:39:01.720 Can I bring up one other position? We haven't talked 1:39:01.720 --> 1:39:04.080 about his quarterback? Like do they need a third quarterback? Here? 1:39:04.280 --> 1:39:05.160 In one of these lives. 1:39:04.960 --> 1:39:08.519 When you were counting your geek chart, I transitioned to 1:39:08.960 --> 1:39:12.639 Evan and I did sorry because the email had just said, 1:39:13.280 --> 1:39:16.640 Taylor Green, what's one of these picks down here? And 1:39:16.720 --> 1:39:18.599 I was thinking like a Haines king, you know, which 1:39:18.880 --> 1:39:20.280 is kind of like my TV was the. 1:39:20.200 --> 1:39:23.360 Ability Garrettnsmeyer still available for some reason? Maybe the back 1:39:23.400 --> 1:39:26.080 thing is why he's not drafted yet. 1:39:26.120 --> 1:39:28.120 I'm surprised by that because I thought he was more 1:39:28.160 --> 1:39:29.920 talented than a lot of guys that have gotten taken. 1:39:30.040 --> 1:39:32.360 Me too, Taylor and Green, is you know we just 1:39:32.400 --> 1:39:34.240 talked about Cole Payton is kind of in the same 1:39:34.320 --> 1:39:38.240 category as Joe Fugano from Yukon is like pure back. 1:39:38.360 --> 1:39:41.960 No part of is the North Dakota State kid that's 1:39:42.040 --> 1:39:43.120 the left the lefty. 1:39:43.560 --> 1:39:45.519 I don't like him at all. I don't get it. 1:39:45.720 --> 1:39:48.000 And this this will be my Greg Bernard moment it 1:39:48.080 --> 1:39:50.679 turns on to get drafted in the when he turns 1:39:50.720 --> 1:39:51.040 out to. 1:39:50.960 --> 1:39:52.200 Be a stud. You guys could throw. 1:39:54.400 --> 1:39:58.320 It's rare to find guys when you watch their highlights 1:39:58.360 --> 1:40:01.160 that you're not impressed with. Yeah, and I watched his 1:40:01.240 --> 1:40:03.519 highlights and I was like, Okay, there's nobody there when 1:40:03.520 --> 1:40:05.679 he ran for a touchdown, Like, Okay. 1:40:05.800 --> 1:40:07.479 The Haines King one's interesting King. 1:40:07.520 --> 1:40:07.840 I love. 1:40:08.160 --> 1:40:11.360 I think Haynes King's kind of taste some Hill Like. 1:40:11.400 --> 1:40:13.479 I don't know if he's like actually a quarterback. No, 1:40:14.760 --> 1:40:16.240 Taylor Green might not be a quarterback. 1:40:16.640 --> 1:40:19.439 He's a hair better than Tebow as a as a passer. 1:40:19.600 --> 1:40:22.800 Yeah, they read a triple option. They you know, they 1:40:22.840 --> 1:40:23.719 run the ball a Ton. 1:40:23.640 --> 1:40:27.280 And he unbelt Taylor and Green. 1:40:27.400 --> 1:40:28.000 Uh. 1:40:28.040 --> 1:40:30.799 Some people think you know, I said, you know, remember 1:40:30.840 --> 1:40:33.439 Traill Prior, Like Trell Prior like switched to wide receiver 1:40:33.479 --> 1:40:35.280 and actually had a couple of good years as a 1:40:35.280 --> 1:40:37.360 wide receiver. If it doesn't work out for Tailing Green 1:40:37.400 --> 1:40:40.080 at quarterback, he could potentially do that. So do you 1:40:40.080 --> 1:40:41.800 want to do that thing with the athlete or do 1:40:41.840 --> 1:40:44.760 you want like Diego Pavia, who's going to be a 1:40:44.800 --> 1:40:46.240 ten year backup in the league. 1:40:46.400 --> 1:40:48.400 Right, Pavia is going to be one of those guys 1:40:48.400 --> 1:40:51.000 that I think could cost some issues as a backup 1:40:51.880 --> 1:40:56.320 with his mouth. Oh yeah, he's I mean, he's likely. 1:40:56.520 --> 1:40:59.200 He's extremely self confident, and I think that could cause 1:40:59.240 --> 1:41:04.000 issues as a backup up. Yeah, another tremendous college player, though. 1:41:05.439 --> 1:41:08.280 Let's see Scott says it was nice of the Patriots 1:41:08.280 --> 1:41:12.200 to let Bill make the pick at one seventy one. Good. 1:41:13.439 --> 1:41:14.120 That's funny. 1:41:14.760 --> 1:41:17.439 At the eight five five Pats five hundred the hot line, 1:41:17.560 --> 1:41:24.759 James is in North Carolina? What's up? James? James? James 1:41:24.840 --> 1:41:29.080 James in North Carolina? Muss has a player from North 1:41:29.080 --> 1:41:30.360 Carolina been drafted yet? 1:41:31.680 --> 1:41:31.800 Not? 1:41:32.560 --> 1:41:35.320 I'm aware the second believe Jordan Hudson's still available. 1:41:36.000 --> 1:41:37.080 Checked by college here. 1:41:37.200 --> 1:41:38.280 Let's go serious. 1:41:39.080 --> 1:41:39.799 Oh that Jordan. 1:41:40.240 --> 1:41:42.200 There's a player named Jordan Hudson. You didn't know this, 1:41:42.479 --> 1:41:43.639 it's been like all. 1:41:43.520 --> 1:41:45.080 Over from North Carolina. 1:41:45.400 --> 1:41:50.160 Oh, I don't think. I don't remember this being a. 1:41:50.080 --> 1:41:54.280 Big now Carolina, Thaddius Dixon, Marcus Allen and have all 1:41:54.320 --> 1:41:55.040 not been drafted. 1:41:55.040 --> 1:41:58.799 We're all transferred out on HIV. Din'd you listen to Lombardi? 1:41:58.840 --> 1:42:00.720 I was gonna say, Okay, Michael Party. 1:42:04.320 --> 1:42:09.360 Anthony Seattle, do you guys think that attitude slash nastiness 1:42:09.479 --> 1:42:12.400 is a bigger factor on defense and athleticism is more 1:42:12.439 --> 1:42:15.320 important on a modern day offense. That could explain the 1:42:15.360 --> 1:42:16.880 first three picks a little bit. 1:42:17.000 --> 1:42:19.120 That's what I thought last night. I mean, like, I'd 1:42:19.160 --> 1:42:21.519 much rather have a you know, an offensive player that 1:42:21.560 --> 1:42:22.960 you're like, we got to bring some of that out 1:42:22.960 --> 1:42:26.040 and him, then you know, a defensive player that's just 1:42:26.040 --> 1:42:29.080 more Traditionally, usually the defensive guys are a little bit tougher, 1:42:29.120 --> 1:42:31.040 but you know, there's always those guards that we talked 1:42:31.080 --> 1:42:31.720 about last night. 1:42:31.920 --> 1:42:34.200 Yeah, I mean, I think there's toughness on both sides 1:42:34.200 --> 1:42:38.200 of the line, for sure, But I need athletes on 1:42:38.280 --> 1:42:40.240 defense too. You know, is there a better athlete on 1:42:40.280 --> 1:42:41.720 the Patriots than Christian Gonzales? 1:42:41.920 --> 1:42:42.160 No? 1:42:42.840 --> 1:42:43.360 No, there isn't. 1:42:43.360 --> 1:42:44.240 Poetry and most I. 1:42:44.240 --> 1:42:48.120 Still feel watch practice moves different than everybody else on 1:42:48.200 --> 1:42:50.800 the team. Yeah yeah, and in a good way. That's 1:42:50.840 --> 1:42:51.599 not a bad thing. 1:42:51.680 --> 1:42:53.479 I just I just don't want to get carried away 1:42:53.479 --> 1:42:57.320 with the Rabel thing of you know, the violence, the 1:42:57.400 --> 1:43:00.400 violence and he's not violent, and I order, you know, 1:43:01.360 --> 1:43:04.479 fixating your look. I get it. It's a type. They 1:43:04.560 --> 1:43:06.559 like it, they want to play with that style. But 1:43:06.600 --> 1:43:10.120 you can also incorporate players who maybe aren't innately always 1:43:10.160 --> 1:43:12.720 driving guys into the ground and given extra business. 1:43:12.479 --> 1:43:16.160 And did any research on the excellent lineman who was 1:43:16.320 --> 1:43:21.599 more technical than physical what we were talking about, you know, 1:43:21.640 --> 1:43:25.880 were there some great linemen were known for their technically I. 1:43:25.840 --> 1:43:27.320 Should have done how while I was trying to sleep 1:43:27.360 --> 1:43:28.960 last night, that would be that would probably. 1:43:29.000 --> 1:43:31.240 I feel like I have a couple. But I also 1:43:31.400 --> 1:43:33.799 like feel like it's not it's doing them a disservice 1:43:33.800 --> 1:43:34.800 to say that they didn't know. 1:43:34.760 --> 1:43:37.240 It, because I'm thinking of like Hall of Fame. 1:43:37.080 --> 1:43:40.640 Tech Joe Thomas, Like Joe Thomas was an absolute technician. 1:43:40.240 --> 1:43:40.920 That's one of them. 1:43:41.040 --> 1:43:43.719 I was thinking like Johnathan Ougden Orlando, like these guys 1:43:43.720 --> 1:43:47.000 were so good with their Trent Williams, you know, Trent 1:43:47.000 --> 1:43:50.320 Williams has a nasty street. Yeah, but he's such he's 1:43:50.360 --> 1:43:52.640 so good. He's almost never out of position. And you 1:43:52.680 --> 1:43:53.960 don't need to be you know what I mean, you 1:43:53.960 --> 1:43:55.720 don't need to be like one of these guys that's like. 1:43:56.120 --> 1:43:59.519 Playing to the right, right, right, a couple of shots. 1:44:00.240 --> 1:44:02.360 Guy, you're your favorite guy, Tyrone Smith. 1:44:02.920 --> 1:44:04.760 Right, he made it look easy. Yeah. 1:44:04.840 --> 1:44:06.960 When you're really good and you're really skilled, you don't 1:44:07.560 --> 1:44:08.320 like you're nasty. 1:44:08.400 --> 1:44:09.840 Yeah right, he made it look easy. 1:44:09.920 --> 1:44:13.080 But those guys were nasty to thank. Evan put it right. 1:44:13.120 --> 1:44:15.000 You don't want to give it's like a disservice to it. 1:44:15.080 --> 1:44:17.160 We always call the extra business in hockey, like the 1:44:17.200 --> 1:44:19.840 guys who there's this one senior defenseman who didn't play much, 1:44:19.840 --> 1:44:21.600 you know, and so he's always kind of scrappy and 1:44:21.680 --> 1:44:24.000 just every practice like man Whitey his name is John 1:44:24.040 --> 1:44:26.360 white White he's giving extra business, like in front of 1:44:26.400 --> 1:44:28.120 the nets, like just stop, what are you doing? 1:44:28.200 --> 1:44:29.800 You know, like just like the cross check. 1:44:31.400 --> 1:44:33.720 Yeah, h Whitey Yeah. 1:44:37.760 --> 1:44:41.679 Zach and Chelmsford, thank you. Thank you for the amazing 1:44:41.720 --> 1:44:45.400 coverage through the weekend. When we talk about uh Yakis 1:44:45.800 --> 1:44:47.520 being a violent edge player. 1:44:47.800 --> 1:44:50.840 What we're gonna get it right. We're going to get 1:44:50.840 --> 1:44:51.519 there and. 1:44:51.800 --> 1:44:54.040 Talk about Akis being a violent edge player. Can we 1:44:54.080 --> 1:44:56.799 break down what makes him different than key On White? 1:44:57.360 --> 1:44:57.759 Oh? 1:44:59.720 --> 1:45:01.840 Yeah, light, Well, he's certainly lighter. I mean key On 1:45:01.880 --> 1:45:06.080 White was two hundred and eighty pounds. Acus is two sixty. Uh, 1:45:06.160 --> 1:45:08.760 you know, lighter, lighter on his feet. 1:45:08.680 --> 1:45:09.400 More bend to him. 1:45:09.400 --> 1:45:09.479 You know. 1:45:09.600 --> 1:45:11.000 Ke White was just very stiff. 1:45:11.040 --> 1:45:13.160 It was right into the you know, just bull rush 1:45:13.280 --> 1:45:15.759 every time and sometimes he got him, especially with guards. 1:45:16.040 --> 1:45:17.720 That's when he was affected, when he could run into 1:45:17.760 --> 1:45:19.879 a guy and just push him back into the quarterback. 1:45:20.000 --> 1:45:22.360 Yeah. I mean I wouldn't say that Akus is bendy, 1:45:22.800 --> 1:45:24.960 like he's not a speed rusher. He's not a bendy 1:45:25.040 --> 1:45:26.520 rusher necessarily. 1:45:26.640 --> 1:45:27.799 But agree, he's. 1:45:27.680 --> 1:45:29.080 Twenty pounds lighter than Keon White. 1:45:29.200 --> 1:45:32.439 He's eleven sacks last year. Kean White never had that 1:45:32.800 --> 1:45:33.759 no in his years. 1:45:33.800 --> 1:45:35.880 No, and he was and key On White was a project. 1:45:35.960 --> 1:45:37.439 He didn't know exactly was. 1:45:38.360 --> 1:45:40.519 He was going in and he remained that way. 1:45:40.600 --> 1:45:42.280 Did you guys watch him at all with with san 1:45:42.360 --> 1:45:43.760 fran I know he had a couple of places he 1:45:43.800 --> 1:45:44.200 got shot. 1:45:44.400 --> 1:45:45.720 I hope heah, But. 1:45:46.040 --> 1:45:48.360 It seemed like It wasn't like they unlocked them either. 1:45:48.640 --> 1:45:50.880 You know, I just he had a great face. He 1:45:50.960 --> 1:45:53.719 looked the part saw somebody first guy off the bus. 1:45:53.760 --> 1:45:55.639 But you know, it just did never add it. 1:45:55.640 --> 1:45:59.559 Up for me. Timmy California subject line, stop being nice 1:45:59.560 --> 1:46:03.280 to Elie. It looks like karen punty. You got it. 1:46:03.439 --> 1:46:06.160 It's not punty. Karenny was on the raidar of the 1:46:06.160 --> 1:46:09.240 Green Bay Packers. He barely played at Kansas before transferring 1:46:09.280 --> 1:46:12.920 to Wake Forest. Why didn't we pick Aiden Fisher from 1:46:12.960 --> 1:46:17.560 Indiana or Adam Randall from Clemson? Is Elliott making good decisions? 1:46:17.680 --> 1:46:19.200 I mean, they still have three more picks in the 1:46:19.240 --> 1:46:21.880 sixth round, so I'm not gonna get upset about something 1:46:21.920 --> 1:46:23.720 they haven't done yet. You know, let's see what their 1:46:23.760 --> 1:46:26.680 picks are in the sixth round. This pick was definitely 1:46:27.320 --> 1:46:30.120 a little bit weird. Now I'll go full Bellichick on you. 1:46:30.439 --> 1:46:33.120 It is the fifth round. The fifth round is the 1:46:33.200 --> 1:46:35.559 least valuable round of the entire draft. Why is that 1:46:35.880 --> 1:46:38.040 just a way to drop off works in the draft? 1:46:38.240 --> 1:46:40.240 You know, once you get outside the top one fifty, 1:46:40.600 --> 1:46:42.840 now you're in that as Deuce likes to call it, 1:46:42.880 --> 1:46:46.160 like a doughnut between like you know, guys that are 1:46:46.600 --> 1:46:49.599 UDFA grades and then guys that have late round grades 1:46:49.640 --> 1:46:53.479 on them. So it's the least valuable draft round. So 1:46:53.960 --> 1:46:56.240 there you go. There's your col Payton to the Eagles. 1:46:56.320 --> 1:46:59.799 Good luck, Philly, Howie, Howie. 1:46:59.840 --> 1:47:03.519 Just so I wasn't prepared for that. 1:47:04.160 --> 1:47:06.759 Bill always used to draft the special teamers in this round. 1:47:07.200 --> 1:47:12.200 You always used to draft his long snappers, covere bases 1:47:12.479 --> 1:47:16.080 like all that different type of stuff because it it, uh, analytically, 1:47:16.160 --> 1:47:18.280 is the least valuable round of the draft. 1:47:18.560 --> 1:47:20.800 Okay, yeah, interesting. 1:47:21.000 --> 1:47:21.639 We're almost out. 1:47:21.680 --> 1:47:23.960 I see then. This is such a familiar thing for 1:47:24.000 --> 1:47:26.320 me watching the draft when you finally see the little 1:47:26.320 --> 1:47:29.240 any at the end of the ticker and it's slowly. 1:47:29.320 --> 1:47:31.960 The problem is is that they have one and one 1:47:32.080 --> 1:47:35.240 ninety eight, so they have picks and quick session coming 1:47:35.320 --> 1:47:36.840 up here, then to twelve. 1:47:38.040 --> 1:47:40.280 So you're telling me we're going beyond four o'clock, aren't you. 1:47:40.400 --> 1:47:43.200 At least at least we should probably stay for those 1:47:43.200 --> 1:47:44.080 two picks. 1:47:43.800 --> 1:47:47.680 Yeah, Butcher Dorchester assuming to get a J. Brown, a 1:47:47.760 --> 1:47:51.120 run stopping nose tackle, a linebacker, and a punter. 1:47:51.200 --> 1:47:53.640 A lot when they have left, I really don't want 1:47:53.680 --> 1:47:54.120 to draft. 1:47:55.120 --> 1:47:57.720 It's another thing, I get, what would you say then, 1:47:57.800 --> 1:48:00.920 is the biggest position. So here's the thing. Forget about 1:48:00.960 --> 1:48:04.240 the AJ Brown. If you're gonna get a run stopping 1:48:04.280 --> 1:48:07.000 nose tackle and free agency, okay, But if you think 1:48:07.040 --> 1:48:10.080 you're going to fill needs with what's left and they're 1:48:10.080 --> 1:48:12.920 gonna come in and play and make an impact this year, 1:48:12.960 --> 1:48:16.479 that's that's that's a reach. That's a reach just because 1:48:16.520 --> 1:48:19.360 you draft a position in the sixth or seventh round. 1:48:19.960 --> 1:48:23.000 That's not filling a need. That is not filling a need, 1:48:25.000 --> 1:48:26.719 that's just adding bodies to camp. 1:48:26.880 --> 1:48:28.240 Yeah yeah, oh yeah. 1:48:28.280 --> 1:48:30.599 Now this is for not filling needs at this point 1:48:30.600 --> 1:48:32.439 in the draft. Right now, if they draft somebody in 1:48:32.439 --> 1:48:36.519 the sixth round that people like me, then losers like 1:48:36.560 --> 1:48:40.280 me or Dane or whatever felt like were actually really 1:48:40.320 --> 1:48:42.840 good value in the sixth round. It happens. I mean, 1:48:43.000 --> 1:48:45.840 Booty and Pop are examples of guys that you know 1:48:46.040 --> 1:48:49.120 outperform their draft stock. So I'm not good sixth round value. 1:48:49.160 --> 1:48:50.800 Both of those. I don't write off the sixth round. 1:48:50.840 --> 1:48:52.799 And I mean, obviously Mike on Win who is great, 1:48:52.920 --> 1:48:56.519 Tom Brady is Tom Brady, you know, but uh, you 1:48:56.560 --> 1:48:58.160 know that it does happen. 1:48:58.320 --> 1:49:01.920 So I'm not, of course, draft Kaisham Booty and Tomario 1:49:01.960 --> 1:49:04.240 Douglas and say we address wide receiver. 1:49:04.040 --> 1:49:06.320 As of right now, as of this moment. If you 1:49:06.400 --> 1:49:09.360 feel the Patriots still have a need or needs, you're 1:49:09.400 --> 1:49:11.519 gonna have to do it in free agency if you 1:49:11.560 --> 1:49:14.120 want to help it this year. And it's probably not 1:49:14.160 --> 1:49:18.559 a permanent fix. It's just a band aid. Yeah, you know, 1:49:18.880 --> 1:49:22.720 so that's now all. Every once in a while you 1:49:22.760 --> 1:49:24.880 do find find that diamond in the rough in the 1:49:24.960 --> 1:49:27.920 late rounds and it happens, but it usually doesn't happen 1:49:28.000 --> 1:49:30.240 right away. It takes a year or so for that 1:49:30.280 --> 1:49:31.160 person to emerge. 1:49:31.200 --> 1:49:35.839 I would say it usually happens because of red flags 1:49:35.840 --> 1:49:38.880 that are outside of like their actual skill on the field. 1:49:39.120 --> 1:49:42.880 Pop Douglas went to Liberty. He's five foot eight, you know, 1:49:43.080 --> 1:49:45.600 slot receiver that went to Liberty and played out a 1:49:45.640 --> 1:49:48.919 smaller school. Kaishan Boudi had the ankle injury in college 1:49:48.960 --> 1:49:52.360 and had a bad way about things in college at LSU. 1:49:52.800 --> 1:49:55.920 So like Kaishan Boudi talent wise, was not a six 1:49:56.040 --> 1:49:59.559 round pick. He just had the ankle. He had some 1:49:59.600 --> 1:50:01.760 off feel stuff and so it knocks him down in 1:50:01.800 --> 1:50:03.920 the round to the sixth round. You know, if you 1:50:04.000 --> 1:50:05.719 take a fire. I mean, I'll give you an example. 1:50:05.720 --> 1:50:08.479 Harold Perkins hasn't been drafted yet. So if you take 1:50:08.520 --> 1:50:10.360 a fire on a guy like Carol Perkins in the 1:50:10.400 --> 1:50:13.719 sixth round, he might hit because he has the talent, 1:50:13.880 --> 1:50:16.639 he just has some question marks. 1:50:18.760 --> 1:50:20.040 Sorry, Fred, I was just gonna say, I just look 1:50:20.080 --> 1:50:23.760 real quick at like a current available nose tackles, and 1:50:23.760 --> 1:50:25.600 there's a bunch of old guys out there that you 1:50:25.640 --> 1:50:27.040 can get on a one year deal, like you know, 1:50:27.160 --> 1:50:29.439 DJ Readers of the World, day Kwon Jones. I mean, 1:50:29.640 --> 1:50:31.479 you know, nobody's going to be a long term edition, 1:50:31.560 --> 1:50:34.320 but much more to grab a guy like that on 1:50:34.360 --> 1:50:34.960 a one year deal. 1:50:35.000 --> 1:50:36.120 That's what Freddy was talking to. 1:50:36.080 --> 1:50:38.639 Draft right than to draft. Like you said, fred draft 1:50:38.680 --> 1:50:39.240 the sixth round. 1:50:39.400 --> 1:50:40.320 What they did with Tong, you. 1:50:40.280 --> 1:50:42.200 Can always get a nose Scotch. Well then that was 1:50:42.320 --> 1:50:44.040 but again, like Tongo was like a first day of 1:50:44.040 --> 1:50:45.040 free agency signing. 1:50:45.120 --> 1:50:47.400 This is like we can just get a guy. Yeah, 1:50:47.439 --> 1:50:49.320 Like I mean, he's probably gonna be thirty two and 1:50:49.400 --> 1:50:51.120 you know, not going to be the answer forever. 1:50:51.200 --> 1:50:53.800 But I still like some of the nose tackles. Yeah, 1:50:53.880 --> 1:50:59.120 like give me give that would would give me the 1:50:59.160 --> 1:51:01.679 Godfather and this X round don't need to nose tackle 1:51:01.720 --> 1:51:06.640 after that. He's got it about the blood clots. The 1:51:06.640 --> 1:51:09.120 blood clots, we'll just be. 1:51:09.120 --> 1:51:12.200 Making all kinds of derogatory comments about Italians and no 1:51:13.880 --> 1:51:18.680 get and my daughter's wedding, everybody asking everybody be doing 1:51:18.720 --> 1:51:19.320 stuff like that. 1:51:19.560 --> 1:51:22.600 You asked me to stop the run, you know, but 1:51:22.800 --> 1:51:25.640 we can't do that. Let's see what happens if it's 1:51:25.680 --> 1:51:26.640 another nationality. 1:51:27.040 --> 1:51:27.800 You can make fun of. 1:51:27.720 --> 1:51:34.400 The Scottish without repercussions that. 1:51:36.400 --> 1:51:37.679 I was gonna say, I'm Scottish. 1:51:37.720 --> 1:51:39.080 You can make fun of the Scottish all you want 1:51:39.080 --> 1:51:40.920 to boot snout. 1:51:42.520 --> 1:51:42.920 The world? 1:51:44.600 --> 1:51:47.800 Excuse me, Nedd in North Carolina, Little Neddy wants to 1:51:47.840 --> 1:51:53.120 go back to the draft. Did you put a patio 1:51:53.240 --> 1:51:56.000 swing chair on the list. It's a solid three for me. 1:51:56.160 --> 1:51:57.800 That's nice, that's relaxing. 1:51:59.520 --> 1:52:01.200 How about your I don't live in a mansion. 1:52:01.280 --> 1:52:03.040 No, you don't have anything that don't have room for 1:52:03.080 --> 1:52:04.960 a patio swing chair. 1:52:05.520 --> 1:52:09.200 No, But I I think you're also we you know, 1:52:09.960 --> 1:52:12.280 we need to make a distinction between indoor and outdoor 1:52:12.320 --> 1:52:14.800 furniture to yeah, and then like exactly we got to 1:52:14.880 --> 1:52:18.240 identify furniture. I'm not big on the TV as part 1:52:18.280 --> 1:52:21.240 of your furniture. Like it's a sofa, it's a love seat, 1:52:21.240 --> 1:52:23.360 it's a recliner, you know. 1:52:23.439 --> 1:52:25.599 Yeah, I will say I don't feel I've found the 1:52:25.640 --> 1:52:28.880 truly perfect piece of outdoor furniture that I really love 1:52:28.920 --> 1:52:30.639 and am comfortable and it can just go and sit 1:52:30.680 --> 1:52:32.639 out on the deck and relax, like I haven't found 1:52:32.680 --> 1:52:33.559 that thing. 1:52:34.360 --> 1:52:37.480 Like Paul puts his cushions in everything. 1:52:37.160 --> 1:52:39.639 I know, I respect. I can't do that now my cushions. 1:52:39.680 --> 1:52:41.120 So if you're not going to do that, you have 1:52:41.160 --> 1:52:45.360 to buy like these the furniture. 1:52:45.479 --> 1:52:47.439 I don't put the cushions in every night I put 1:52:47.600 --> 1:52:49.960 I put a cover over the whole sofa every night. 1:52:50.080 --> 1:52:52.439 Yeah it doesn't get it's ridiculous, But I don't put 1:52:52.479 --> 1:52:53.760 the correct the cushions in. 1:52:53.920 --> 1:52:55.680 All right, Well you cover them up every night. 1:52:55.760 --> 1:52:57.559 I don't want. I don't let them get wet every. 1:52:57.560 --> 1:52:58.600 It's a responsibility. 1:52:58.680 --> 1:53:01.080 I wish furniture, But then you sit on there, you 1:53:01.120 --> 1:53:01.719 get soaked. 1:53:01.720 --> 1:53:03.920 I know if I respect it, But what I'm. 1:53:03.800 --> 1:53:09.400 Saying, you're right, come on, and that's what happens because 1:53:09.400 --> 1:53:11.519 I have the cheap pillows, but if you buy the 1:53:11.560 --> 1:53:14.960 really expensive pillows, the water just wicks right off. They don't. 1:53:15.000 --> 1:53:15.799 It doesn't absorb. 1:53:16.560 --> 1:53:19.800 So I have like a little mold, right, I have 1:53:19.840 --> 1:53:23.280 a little bar set it like it's like the wicker material. 1:53:23.640 --> 1:53:26.040 When that gets wet, it doesn't feel like it's wet, 1:53:26.280 --> 1:53:27.800 but it's sod. You sit on that, you got to 1:53:27.880 --> 1:53:29.960 like tip it and all the water comes out, but 1:53:30.000 --> 1:53:31.760 then it drives up right away once you do that, 1:53:32.000 --> 1:53:33.320 but then you sit down, you get that. 1:53:33.439 --> 1:53:35.240 Yeah, but no one likes the questions I have, Like 1:53:35.280 --> 1:53:39.280 they're supposed to be water resistant, they're not water proof, 1:53:39.840 --> 1:53:41.720 and if it really rains, they're gonna get wet and 1:53:41.880 --> 1:53:43.960 it takes you have to take them and put them 1:53:43.960 --> 1:53:45.720 on their edge and wait for them to dry out. 1:53:45.840 --> 1:53:46.040 Yeah. 1:53:46.120 --> 1:53:48.639 Right, that's what they make these really. Like the cushions 1:53:48.680 --> 1:53:51.720 are like over three hundred dollars each water and the 1:53:51.760 --> 1:53:53.439 water just doing plasts like a rain. 1:53:53.479 --> 1:53:55.080 Are they comfortable is like plastic? 1:53:55.080 --> 1:53:58.840 No, no, no, it's not plastic. It's it's but but 1:53:59.000 --> 1:54:00.639 like I said, if you have a couch with three 1:54:00.640 --> 1:54:04.879 cushions and three back cushions, that's that's you know, yeah, six. 1:54:04.680 --> 1:54:06.519 Times you're speaking my language. 1:54:07.520 --> 1:54:08.880 Struggle, I know. 1:54:08.960 --> 1:54:10.880 And then there's like leaves get blown in and it's 1:54:10.920 --> 1:54:12.800 all gross. I wish I had a cover to do 1:54:12.840 --> 1:54:14.439 it like you do, because so much time I spent. 1:54:14.600 --> 1:54:16.839 I want to go sit outside. Oh it rained yesterday, 1:54:17.120 --> 1:54:18.960 they're sopping. I got to do Freds thing and flip 1:54:19.000 --> 1:54:19.559 them on the side. 1:54:19.600 --> 1:54:22.200 And you have a like one of those little outdoor 1:54:22.400 --> 1:54:26.640 kind of gazebo things, not like not a permanent not 1:54:28.040 --> 1:54:29.240 I don't know why your mind. 1:54:29.040 --> 1:54:30.799 Goes there talking. 1:54:32.720 --> 1:54:34.320 The cow is a cover. 1:54:35.040 --> 1:54:36.840 There is a cover over and then I put a 1:54:36.880 --> 1:54:41.120 cover on top of the like thet I don't really 1:54:41.120 --> 1:54:42.280 think that that's that rare. 1:54:43.400 --> 1:54:45.120 No, I think it's smart. But I wish I wish 1:54:45.120 --> 1:54:45.480 I had that. 1:54:45.560 --> 1:54:49.520 But now most overrated outdoor furniture is the adiron deck chair. 1:54:49.600 --> 1:54:55.160 Oh yeah, uncomfortable. Comfortable, thank you Fred. Uncomfort. 1:54:55.520 --> 1:54:58.360 I need an outdoor recliner that's like weather proof and 1:54:58.400 --> 1:54:59.000 that I can. 1:54:58.920 --> 1:54:59.760 Just sit and relax. 1:54:59.800 --> 1:55:01.680 And I it's the couches are too small. 1:55:01.760 --> 1:55:03.520 Things are too You guys have fire pits. 1:55:03.720 --> 1:55:04.040 I do. 1:55:04.440 --> 1:55:05.480 I have a gas fire pit. 1:55:05.720 --> 1:55:07.680 A gas fire now, yeah, I got a fire it's 1:55:07.720 --> 1:55:08.840 got like a glass. 1:55:08.560 --> 1:55:10.879 Top yeah, I have one of those with the pebbles 1:55:10.880 --> 1:55:11.880 in it. 1:55:12.040 --> 1:55:14.360 But the glass, the blue. 1:55:14.080 --> 1:55:15.520 Glass does it give off heat. 1:55:16.800 --> 1:55:18.520 A little heat, but you don't use it for heat. 1:55:18.560 --> 1:55:20.680 It's just kind of like Beyonce. 1:55:20.840 --> 1:55:22.680 Yeah, yeah, it's it's more. 1:55:22.520 --> 1:55:23.360 Like it's the mood. 1:55:23.440 --> 1:55:26.360 It's more like a bunch of college kids sitting around. 1:55:26.200 --> 1:55:30.280 And at my house right like just to annoy me. 1:55:30.480 --> 1:55:32.280 I just like the fire pit because then you smelled 1:55:32.320 --> 1:55:33.520 like fire. 1:55:33.680 --> 1:55:35.880 So that's the good part of the game. You don't smell. 1:55:36.200 --> 1:55:39.320 I don't smell because that's a smell you can't get 1:55:39.400 --> 1:55:41.000 rid of, like three days. 1:55:42.320 --> 1:55:44.440 If you like, if you have a hoodie. 1:55:44.280 --> 1:55:46.840 At a like you forget that, you'd have to wash 1:55:46.880 --> 1:55:47.440 it three times. 1:55:47.480 --> 1:55:47.880 You get the. 1:55:47.800 --> 1:55:48.400 Smell out of it. 1:55:48.880 --> 1:55:49.720 The smell is good. 1:55:50.280 --> 1:55:53.280 I do like burn there, like. 1:55:54.000 --> 1:55:56.320 When you when you sit around the fire. I like 1:55:56.400 --> 1:55:58.440 that smell. I don't like the way I smell. The 1:55:58.440 --> 1:55:59.960 next day, you kept just sitting around. 1:56:00.080 --> 1:56:02.400 Winter as much as you get I was thinking, like, 1:56:02.520 --> 1:56:06.760 when you know you smell like fire instead of smelling 1:56:06.880 --> 1:56:08.080 like booze. 1:56:08.600 --> 1:56:13.240 Yeah, well I know what he was doing. You were 1:56:13.240 --> 1:56:16.680 burning down the woods, and Heaven was out back smoking 1:56:16.760 --> 1:56:19.800 evil whoa so I was. 1:56:19.920 --> 1:56:24.320 I was, and I just drank. No, I appreciate it. 1:56:24.640 --> 1:56:27.680 When you were in high school, eighteen was the drinking age, So. 1:56:27.800 --> 1:56:29.280 That is not true. 1:56:29.880 --> 1:56:30.640 That is not true. 1:56:30.760 --> 1:56:32.800 But it was a good, good shot, A good shot. 1:56:33.320 --> 1:56:36.480 I believed I was when you might have been. 1:56:36.600 --> 1:56:39.000 Changed while I was in high school. So geez. So 1:56:39.120 --> 1:56:42.480 the night before it happened where your grandfather there, carry 1:56:42.560 --> 1:56:45.120 convinced my mother to buy us ten cases of beer 1:56:46.000 --> 1:56:48.800 and we went down to Smuggler's Beach and sold them, 1:56:48.840 --> 1:56:51.040 you know, one bottle at a time for two bucks each, 1:56:51.080 --> 1:56:52.280 and made a fortune that night. 1:56:52.920 --> 1:56:54.280 Smart I always had an angle. 1:56:54.400 --> 1:56:56.360 Smart I thought he was going to say, and that 1:56:56.480 --> 1:56:57.760 was my beer for the next two years. 1:56:57.800 --> 1:56:58.000 Job. 1:56:58.040 --> 1:57:00.240 He's always scheming, you know, because this. 1:57:00.280 --> 1:57:04.600 Man evans explanation for why fifth round picks so less 1:57:04.680 --> 1:57:07.640 valuable than later round picks didn't really add up. Is 1:57:07.680 --> 1:57:11.400 the idea that fifth rounders cost noticeably more than six 1:57:11.520 --> 1:57:15.400 rounders without offering a meaningfully higher chance of success. 1:57:15.840 --> 1:57:18.840 Yeah, it just the talent has just leveled off at 1:57:18.840 --> 1:57:20.200 this point of the draft. 1:57:19.840 --> 1:57:21.040 But you're paying more for them. 1:57:21.160 --> 1:57:23.960 Yeah, exactly, And so you left that part out, Okay, 1:57:24.040 --> 1:57:27.200 But it's not like a tremendous amount more. It's not 1:57:28.200 --> 1:57:30.640 all I know is and I've probably done the better 1:57:30.720 --> 1:57:32.920 job of explaining it. But all I know is is 1:57:32.960 --> 1:57:35.880 that Bill used to always draft the special teamers in 1:57:35.920 --> 1:57:36.480 the fifth round. 1:57:36.520 --> 1:57:39.720 And I would say, and has been outspoken in favor 1:57:39.760 --> 1:57:40.320 of what Evans is. 1:57:40.520 --> 1:57:42.720 Yeah, and every argument that he used to use of 1:57:42.760 --> 1:57:44.760 the reason why he did that is because it was 1:57:44.840 --> 1:57:47.360 analytically the least valuable round of the draft. 1:57:47.720 --> 1:57:50.680 The two rounds Bill always talked about as being sort 1:57:50.680 --> 1:57:53.000 of different with the third round. In the fifth round, 1:57:53.320 --> 1:57:56.880 the third round, he used to say, oftentimes had a 1:57:56.880 --> 1:58:01.240 lot of first round talent in it that had questions, 1:58:01.400 --> 1:58:07.240 whether it be injuries, character issues, you know, some kind 1:58:07.320 --> 1:58:11.040 of weird circumstance that caused a guy that had the 1:58:11.080 --> 1:58:12.760 talent to go in the first round to drop to 1:58:12.800 --> 1:58:15.120 the third round and the fifth round. I just think 1:58:15.440 --> 1:58:18.200 was more about what Evan's talking about in terms of value. 1:58:19.400 --> 1:58:21.400 I don't know exactly why it was. Maybe it is 1:58:21.480 --> 1:58:23.520 money related, but I don't like, is there really that 1:58:23.560 --> 1:58:26.240 great of a difference salary wise between a fifth and 1:58:26.320 --> 1:58:26.880 sixth rounder. 1:58:26.960 --> 1:58:32.120 R So Cahol and Galway Ireland has the same question, 1:58:32.200 --> 1:58:35.520 doesn't understand the logic why it's easier to find value 1:58:35.840 --> 1:58:37.879 in the sixth round in the fifth round. It's because 1:58:38.160 --> 1:58:40.880 of the way you have to pay fifth rounders as 1:58:40.880 --> 1:58:42.040 opposed to six rounders. 1:58:42.040 --> 1:58:46.400 But I'll do some more actual reasoning behind this for 1:58:46.480 --> 1:58:50.840 Tuesday's PU and we I'll have a better rationale for it. 1:58:51.440 --> 1:58:55.080 I've always just kind of taken Bill Belichick and other 1:58:55.120 --> 1:58:57.120 people smarter than me at their words for it. 1:58:57.280 --> 1:59:00.160 Go into one of those gbt's and say, what's the 1:59:00.200 --> 1:59:03.040 most valuable round in the NFL? What's the least valuable 1:59:03.120 --> 1:59:03.960 round in the NFL? 1:59:04.080 --> 1:59:06.520 All right, so let me do this. 1:59:10.080 --> 1:59:13.680 Well, while you're doing that, we'll go to Noah in Toronto. 1:59:13.680 --> 1:59:14.080 What's up? 1:59:14.120 --> 1:59:17.000 Noah? 1:59:17.480 --> 1:59:18.120 Noah? You there? 1:59:19.280 --> 1:59:19.840 Can you hear me? 1:59:20.000 --> 1:59:20.560 Yep? We can? 1:59:21.560 --> 1:59:26.040 Okay, Yeah, thanks for all the content. So one thing 1:59:26.080 --> 1:59:27.920 I've been reading a lot about Kaleb low move is 1:59:27.920 --> 1:59:31.320 that is not a nasty enough player. And I was 1:59:31.320 --> 1:59:34.760 wondering if you guys think that's a legitimate concern or 1:59:34.840 --> 1:59:37.840 is that kind of just a heart oh coach thing, 1:59:37.920 --> 1:59:40.320 because I don't know, in my mind, is like a 1:59:40.400 --> 1:59:42.520 feaking blostake in front of him. I don't care if 1:59:42.520 --> 1:59:44.760 he needs him in the kary and after you get them. 1:59:45.320 --> 1:59:46.520 Yeah, yeah, I. 1:59:46.480 --> 1:59:51.000 Think that maybe, like when you talk about like nasty 1:59:51.040 --> 1:59:53.800 and finish, we're talking about play strength. It's not I'm 1:59:53.840 --> 1:59:56.000 not saying that he's got to go and like beat 1:59:56.000 --> 1:59:59.360 people up right, I'm talking about, you know, can he 2:00:00.080 --> 2:00:02.080 eight movement in the run game? Can he get on 2:00:02.120 --> 2:00:04.320 a block? And can he drive a guy off the ball. 2:00:04.600 --> 2:00:07.560 You know, I didn't necessarily see that kind of power 2:00:08.160 --> 2:00:10.480 in the run game to him. Doesn't mean he can't 2:00:10.600 --> 2:00:13.720 and can't eventually get to that point. I'm not necessarily 2:00:13.760 --> 2:00:16.000 talking about like he's going out there and. 2:00:16.000 --> 2:00:18.480 It's a great, great description, That's what I agree. It's 2:00:18.520 --> 2:00:20.480 I think you get lost in the you know, is 2:00:20.480 --> 2:00:22.880 he does he know the stuff that people loved about 2:00:22.920 --> 2:00:25.400 Will Campbell early last year when he was driving guys 2:00:25.400 --> 2:00:26.560 into the ground you're going to play in. 2:00:26.560 --> 2:00:28.560 The preseason game when he dreve drove a guy like 2:00:28.600 --> 2:00:30.800 ten yards down field, like that's just kind of a 2:00:30.880 --> 2:00:31.520 nasty streak. 2:00:31.640 --> 2:00:33.240 Like, you know, I'm not saying that you have to 2:00:33.280 --> 2:00:33.920 have now, but. 2:00:33.920 --> 2:00:37.520 It's it's evansing because that directs directly correlates to play 2:00:37.560 --> 2:00:38.080 in the position. 2:00:38.160 --> 2:00:41.320 I think nasty a lot of times gets confused with dirty, 2:00:42.000 --> 2:00:46.040 and I don't think it's the same due to anyway. 2:00:46.160 --> 2:00:46.800 Are you just did. 2:00:49.200 --> 2:00:50.960 Microsoft co pilot on this program? 2:00:51.160 --> 2:00:53.160 Yeah, okay. 2:00:53.480 --> 2:00:57.120 The fifth round is an average of four point six 2:00:57.240 --> 2:00:59.760 million to full point seven eight over four years, the 2:00:59.800 --> 2:01:01.840 same sound as four point four million to four point 2:01:01.880 --> 2:01:04.240 six million over four years. So it's not a money 2:01:04.240 --> 2:01:06.640 to make. It's not a money thing, and they're not 2:01:06.720 --> 2:01:10.440 guaranteed in either regard, so it's that's not it's not 2:01:10.520 --> 2:01:10.760 a lot. 2:01:13.440 --> 2:01:17.360 I don't I don't have research on this, because logically, 2:01:18.120 --> 2:01:22.360 the higher you pick the person, the better they should be. 2:01:22.560 --> 2:01:24.800 Maybe there's more chances taken in the fifth The only 2:01:24.840 --> 2:01:25.360 other thing. 2:01:25.240 --> 2:01:28.040 That I can think of is that. And I don't 2:01:28.080 --> 2:01:29.920 know if I don't think this is the case as 2:01:30.000 --> 2:01:32.600 much anymore. But the Patriots used to have a notoriously 2:01:32.720 --> 2:01:36.120 small draft board like they used to have under Bill. 2:01:36.880 --> 2:01:40.080 They might only have like like one hundred guys on 2:01:40.120 --> 2:01:42.320 the entire draft board. Most teams have like double that, 2:01:42.920 --> 2:01:45.280 So maybe at this point in the draft they kind 2:01:45.280 --> 2:01:48.320 of have run out of draftable players could be, and 2:01:48.360 --> 2:01:50.560 so they're looking at it saying, you know. 2:01:51.360 --> 2:01:53.320 Depends on how big the ructors close one of your 2:01:53.320 --> 2:01:56.560 guys do those Internet, Yeah, I don't. I mean, I 2:01:56.560 --> 2:01:58.200 think he's more of an upfield kind of guy. 2:01:58.400 --> 2:01:59.960 You know that he's not going to be the nose tip. 2:02:00.320 --> 2:02:02.080 But you know, I pulled this tweet up. I think 2:02:02.080 --> 2:02:04.600 you referenced earlier Paul Hall of famers by what round 2:02:04.600 --> 2:02:07.480 they were drafted. I thought this was interesting a little 2:02:07.520 --> 2:02:10.440 bit into the reference. Uh, first rounders one hundred and 2:02:10.440 --> 2:02:14.440 thirty seven, second rounders, thirty eight, third rounders, twenty eight, 2:02:14.560 --> 2:02:19.400 fourth rounders, twelve, fifth round, eight, sixth round, four, seventh round, ten, 2:02:20.320 --> 2:02:22.520 eighth round, and later twenty eight. Of course, draft used 2:02:22.520 --> 2:02:25.560 to be a lot longer and undrafted twenty two. Yeah, 2:02:25.600 --> 2:02:25.920 so I. 2:02:25.840 --> 2:02:28.160 Would just say, like the eighth round and later in 2:02:28.200 --> 2:02:31.600 the undrafted there's a lot more of those, yeah, right 2:02:32.400 --> 2:02:33.600 than first rounders. 2:02:34.000 --> 2:02:34.160 Do you know? 2:02:35.840 --> 2:02:38.440 There's an infinite amount of undrafted free agents that can 2:02:38.480 --> 2:02:40.280 make the league. Every year, there's only thirty two first 2:02:40.400 --> 2:02:41.200 round picks that make. 2:02:41.120 --> 2:02:45.960 The yep so, but yeah, yeah, about one hundred and 2:02:45.960 --> 2:02:47.680 thirty seven in the first round, and then you drop 2:02:47.760 --> 2:02:49.600 the thirty eight and that's a big drop. That's a 2:02:49.680 --> 2:02:52.640 hugeho that's one hundred, one hundred guys. Yeah, ninety nine. 2:02:52.680 --> 2:02:54.720 The draft used to be what twelve rounds back in 2:02:54.800 --> 2:02:55.120 the day? 2:02:55.240 --> 2:02:55.400 Is that? 2:02:55.440 --> 2:02:55.560 Ever? 2:02:55.600 --> 2:02:57.360 When there were times it was even longer than that. 2:02:57.400 --> 2:02:59.520 But I mean, was the eighth round pick? 2:02:59.720 --> 2:03:00.120 Was it? 2:03:00.160 --> 2:03:01.440 Was it seven when you started here? 2:03:01.560 --> 2:03:02.880 Was it down to seven when you started? 2:03:03.000 --> 2:03:05.360 I think it was down to seven when I started. Yeah, 2:03:05.400 --> 2:03:08.520 Troy was ninety three, and I think it was shortly 2:03:08.560 --> 2:03:10.680 after that they cut it to seven. I think the 2:03:10.720 --> 2:03:12.160 first draft that I covered was seven. 2:03:12.240 --> 2:03:12.920 Be a long show. 2:03:12.960 --> 2:03:15.280 Did you know that the New England well I think 2:03:15.280 --> 2:03:20.120 it was the Boston Patriots back then, drafted fran Tarkenton. Really, yeah, 2:03:20.200 --> 2:03:21.680 he chose to go to the Giants. 2:03:22.120 --> 2:03:23.760 You know, it was another interesting one. I didn't know 2:03:23.760 --> 2:03:27.120 they drafted with Steve McMichael Mungo. I knew that was 2:03:27.160 --> 2:03:30.000 a huge part of the Chicago Bears, and I was 2:03:30.080 --> 2:03:32.160 like what, I didn't realize that, And then it seemed 2:03:32.160 --> 2:03:33.960 like he never quite caught on here. They didn't quite 2:03:33.960 --> 2:03:36.320 get his personality. Then he went to Chicago he was 2:03:36.320 --> 2:03:38.800 able to be part of that great forty six defense, 2:03:38.800 --> 2:03:41.280 And yeah, that was that was one, because I mean 2:03:41.280 --> 2:03:42.880 they he was out of there in like two years. 2:03:42.880 --> 2:03:44.560 It was you know and went on to this great career. 2:03:45.800 --> 2:03:49.160 All right, so where are we? Taylor Green, just Tyl Green, 2:03:49.240 --> 2:03:51.600 first pick of the sixth round. 2:03:54.520 --> 2:03:56.560 Oh, put a tent on that quarterback circus. 2:03:56.600 --> 2:03:59.320 Wow they picked another quarterback. Yeah. Yeah. 2:03:59.480 --> 2:04:02.640 They just they feel like if they're gonna just throw 2:04:02.680 --> 2:04:05.360 as many darts at that position and like maybe they'll 2:04:05.400 --> 2:04:08.480 get Tom Brady and you know, I feel like that's 2:04:08.520 --> 2:04:10.480 their mindset. 2:04:10.680 --> 2:04:13.160 There's Paul's guy, Cole Peyton doesn't look like he's throwing it. 2:04:13.360 --> 2:04:14.800 I mean that looks like a pretty good throw. 2:04:15.800 --> 2:04:17.760 Oh yeah, he actually looks like he has big arms, 2:04:17.760 --> 2:04:18.600 great biceps. 2:04:18.680 --> 2:04:18.920 Yeah. 2:04:20.160 --> 2:04:22.160 So I got a feeling like six seventh round, you're 2:04:22.160 --> 2:04:24.760 gonna see some weird picks from a lot of different teams. 2:04:24.880 --> 2:04:27.640 Yeah, I'm curious. It's just kind of glad to see. 2:04:27.640 --> 2:04:30.360 We've got two Anny's on the tracker right now. 2:04:30.200 --> 2:04:32.400 So Dud's just tracking the Ay. 2:04:32.800 --> 2:04:34.560 I love that Now. 2:04:34.640 --> 2:04:36.480 I think back to the days I really did enjoy 2:04:36.520 --> 2:04:38.200 the draft when it was the weekend and you know, 2:04:38.280 --> 2:04:40.320 I would just make a weekend out of it and 2:04:40.360 --> 2:04:42.640 make food and have friends come over, and you just 2:04:42.720 --> 2:04:44.720 kind of the excuse to just sit there and eat 2:04:44.720 --> 2:04:47.160 food and kind of started when they fread it was 2:04:47.160 --> 2:04:50.240 the Saturday Sunday. It was you know, it was one, 2:04:50.360 --> 2:04:52.720 two and three on Saturday and then four to seven 2:04:52.760 --> 2:04:56.200 on Sunday. When I was a kid, it was during 2:04:56.200 --> 2:05:00.240 the week, during the day, and that's when I went 2:05:00.280 --> 2:05:02.800 all Evan, yeah, and I geeked out and I used 2:05:02.840 --> 2:05:05.080 to fake being sick so I could stay home from 2:05:05.120 --> 2:05:06.360 school and watch the draft. 2:05:06.920 --> 2:05:09.040 I did it twice, all know. My father caught on 2:05:09.120 --> 2:05:11.520 the second he did, yeah, yeah, the draft today. Second 2:05:11.520 --> 2:05:13.480 because I would do it, you know, my father would 2:05:13.480 --> 2:05:15.440 go to work and then I would go to my mother, 2:05:15.640 --> 2:05:17.800 I'm not feeling well, and I would stay, you know, 2:05:17.840 --> 2:05:19.680 would just sit in my room and watch the draft 2:05:19.760 --> 2:05:22.120 all day. He pulled the first and then the second 2:05:22.200 --> 2:05:24.320 year when that happened again. You know, my so my 2:05:24.360 --> 2:05:27.000 father's gone, doesn't realize it's happened, and he was like, 2:05:27.760 --> 2:05:30.240 wait a minute, you did this last year too, No, 2:05:30.600 --> 2:05:33.320 I know what you're doing. And that was it was yeah, 2:05:33.320 --> 2:05:34.640 I think we took Evan would have been like that, 2:05:34.640 --> 2:05:38.080 that's my boy. Like Tony Collins in the second round. 2:05:38.120 --> 2:05:39.960 I was like, oh, I might have been like the 2:05:40.000 --> 2:05:40.840 tip draft too. 2:05:41.080 --> 2:05:41.280 Yeah. 2:05:41.680 --> 2:05:43.800 It was in that era it was like eighty two, 2:05:43.960 --> 2:05:44.920 eighty three. 2:05:44.880 --> 2:05:47.640 Somewhere in that vicented some good drafts and you know, 2:05:47.680 --> 2:05:50.320 faking being sick to watch the draft. I've told this 2:05:50.360 --> 2:05:52.520 story before, but I'd never forget just the thought of 2:05:52.560 --> 2:05:54.720 my brain and being like, it'd be so cool to 2:05:54.720 --> 2:05:56.640 be able to like sit in front of the computer 2:05:56.720 --> 2:05:59.120 and just be on the Internet and be on my computer. 2:05:58.880 --> 2:06:01.000 While I'm on the TV. You know it's hard line 2:06:01.080 --> 2:06:03.560 dial up. You know you'd have to be over in. 2:06:03.560 --> 2:06:04.120 The other room. 2:06:04.400 --> 2:06:08.200 Oh yeah, right, right, but you know the imagination of 2:06:08.240 --> 2:06:10.400 Wi Fi being like, that'd be so cool. You know, 2:06:10.480 --> 2:06:12.440 I can like do my little blogs and everything. 2:06:12.480 --> 2:06:16.000 I have to be honest, I wouldn't you. I wouldn't 2:06:16.040 --> 2:06:19.760 even have known when the draft was until after college. 2:06:19.640 --> 2:06:23.040 Ye Now, where to contemplate to miss the draft? 2:06:23.960 --> 2:06:27.480 I swear, I I it's too busy playing sports. 2:06:27.720 --> 2:06:30.160 Yeah. Yeah, I didn't watch it before like two thousand 2:06:30.160 --> 2:06:30.480 and six. 2:06:30.520 --> 2:06:32.320 I mean, it wasn't like I was watching in two 2:06:32.360 --> 2:06:35.680 thousand and six and I was like ten, yeah, no. 2:06:35.800 --> 2:06:37.680 Well that's like I was. Yeah, I was like it 2:06:37.760 --> 2:06:39.960 was when I really got into the pool. It wasn't 2:06:39.960 --> 2:06:41.400 like I'm a fan of the league and I want 2:06:41.400 --> 2:06:43.800 to see where I two thousand and six, I'd say, 2:06:43.840 --> 2:06:46.080 is where I really watching the draft? 2:06:46.200 --> 2:06:46.680 Sitting there? 2:06:46.760 --> 2:06:49.440 You know, I would say, yeah, like fourth or fifth grade. 2:06:49.920 --> 2:06:52.320 And then back then, like that's when like they started 2:06:52.360 --> 2:06:55.520 having the YouTube stuff for like Draft breakdown and stuff 2:06:55.520 --> 2:06:57.360 like that, and they would just have these cutups of 2:06:57.400 --> 2:07:00.680 players TV copy where I was just like four or 2:07:00.760 --> 2:07:03.000 five minutes of just all their snaps and you could 2:07:03.040 --> 2:07:05.640 just watch the guy play a game all the way through. 2:07:05.920 --> 2:07:08.440 And I used to just all sit there and just 2:07:08.520 --> 2:07:11.040 watch like as many guys as I possibly could. I 2:07:11.040 --> 2:07:13.200 didn't like take notes or anything back then. I just 2:07:13.280 --> 2:07:16.080 like knowing the names and schools and stuff like that. 2:07:16.200 --> 2:07:18.200 But you get like the I mean, there wasn't the 2:07:18.280 --> 2:07:20.400 prolific draft coverage you had on the internet, but you 2:07:20.440 --> 2:07:23.400 get that like Draft magazine finally, and you know going 2:07:23.480 --> 2:07:25.360 through that. I would love that, but I getting when 2:07:25.400 --> 2:07:27.040 that would finally hit the news stand. I'd be so 2:07:27.120 --> 2:07:29.240 excited to, you know, go through the prospects. 2:07:29.520 --> 2:07:31.880 Yeah, back then, like you know, guys like Mel Kuiper 2:07:32.000 --> 2:07:33.440 and I know he gets a lot of credit for 2:07:33.480 --> 2:07:35.680 this from everybody, but like he you know, he obviously 2:07:35.760 --> 2:07:37.760 started it. Well you know, he was one. 2:07:37.680 --> 2:07:40.320 Of the first, was one of the best. 2:07:40.400 --> 2:07:43.440 Joe Joel Buschbomb was a scout, though mel Kuiper is 2:07:43.480 --> 2:07:45.640 the first one to just sort of do it as. 2:07:45.680 --> 2:07:47.640 Like a hobby but had his own book. 2:07:48.640 --> 2:07:50.720 But he was a scout. He was actually in the NFL. 2:07:51.560 --> 2:07:54.080 I heard an internet thing about mel Kiper, Joel Bush 2:07:54.600 --> 2:07:57.800 Bill Joel. Because of that, he used to talk to 2:07:57.880 --> 2:08:00.920 us until he didn't anymore. 2:08:00.960 --> 2:08:02.920 I saw some footage of like early mel Kiper. I 2:08:02.920 --> 2:08:05.680 forget what I was watching, but uh, and somebody was 2:08:05.720 --> 2:08:08.200 talking about how you cover the draft, and I thought 2:08:08.200 --> 2:08:09.920 it was really interesting because of you know, all of 2:08:09.920 --> 2:08:13.200 our processes that they're talent evaluators and then there are 2:08:13.240 --> 2:08:15.760 information gatherers, you know, and I feel like, you know, 2:08:15.840 --> 2:08:19.800 Evan leans hard into talent evaluation. He watches the players 2:08:19.800 --> 2:08:22.000 and he you know, whereas and I do a dabble 2:08:22.040 --> 2:08:24.360 in that. But I'd say I'm more of an information gatherer. 2:08:24.360 --> 2:08:26.240 I like to look at different people. I you know, 2:08:26.360 --> 2:08:28.560 find traits that I like or guys that you know, 2:08:28.600 --> 2:08:30.400 maybe have some keywords that this is the kind of 2:08:30.400 --> 2:08:32.040 guy you might be. Now. I watch him a little bit, 2:08:32.080 --> 2:08:34.240 but that was an interesting way to kind of look 2:08:34.280 --> 2:08:35.640 at it, and they were saying, you know, mel kiper 2:08:35.640 --> 2:08:37.680 initially more of an information gatherer. 2:08:38.040 --> 2:08:39.360 Yeah, because back then there was no. 2:08:39.480 --> 2:08:41.320 Internet, you know, and it's a guy who's talking to 2:08:41.360 --> 2:08:43.760 everybody and getting the opinion rather than you know, there's 2:08:43.760 --> 2:08:45.960 a couple of different ways to kind of approach it. Yeah. 2:08:45.960 --> 2:08:48.880 To me, like, if you're not watching him play, then 2:08:48.920 --> 2:08:51.879 you're not scouting, I think, because you're if you're relying 2:08:51.920 --> 2:08:55.560 on other people's words, whether they're written or verbal, it's 2:08:55.760 --> 2:08:58.680 too subjective. You have to see it with your eyes. 2:08:58.880 --> 2:09:00.840 Yeah, yeah, and I understand and that, you know, some 2:09:00.920 --> 2:09:04.320 people might think that I don't have the expertise or 2:09:04.360 --> 2:09:06.320 they don't have the expertise to be able to watch 2:09:06.400 --> 2:09:09.400 it and give an opinion, but I do. That's how 2:09:09.440 --> 2:09:12.160 I do it, And like my rankings like I that 2:09:12.240 --> 2:09:16.560 I put together, uh that we publish, Like I don't know, 2:09:16.840 --> 2:09:19.600 I'm not always right in terms of predicting the draft 2:09:19.760 --> 2:09:21.720 in the order that the players come off the board, 2:09:22.080 --> 2:09:23.960 but like I'm actually kind of more interested to see 2:09:23.960 --> 2:09:25.320 if I'm going to be right in two to three 2:09:25.400 --> 2:09:28.640 years and then being right like, oh, this guy went 2:09:28.680 --> 2:09:30.520 in the in the third round and Evan had him 2:09:30.520 --> 2:09:34.440 in the seventh round, like, well, maybe I they overdrafted it. 2:09:34.600 --> 2:09:36.160 I thought he was going to be a good football 2:09:36.160 --> 2:09:38.440 player and he ended up being a good football. 2:09:38.280 --> 2:09:38.920 Or bad you know. 2:09:39.280 --> 2:09:41.720 Definitely plenty of the on the other direction too, But 2:09:42.160 --> 2:09:45.280 I would say Barth like it does more trying to 2:09:45.800 --> 2:09:48.240 predict what the league is going to do, you know. 2:09:48.200 --> 2:09:49.680 Like he's more more of a game. 2:09:50.120 --> 2:09:53.400 He's more of the information gathering side where he wants 2:09:53.440 --> 2:09:55.240 to get it right in terms of the you know, 2:09:55.320 --> 2:09:57.800 projecting where the league is going to draft the players. 2:09:57.920 --> 2:09:58.840 I agree with you. 2:09:58.880 --> 2:10:01.040 I would rather just try to see I can identify 2:10:01.120 --> 2:10:04.320 what's going to be a good player, like I remember, 2:10:04.480 --> 2:10:06.600 you know, just like the individual players that come around. 2:10:06.600 --> 2:10:08.160 And I was like, I really liked that guy, Like 2:10:08.280 --> 2:10:11.360 Randall Cobb was a guy like back and I was like, 2:10:11.640 --> 2:10:13.840 I really liked the way that guy isn't Like the 2:10:13.880 --> 2:10:15.720 first game he played for Green Bay, I think he 2:10:15.720 --> 2:10:18.160 had like two touchdowns. I was like, bang, look, I 2:10:18.200 --> 2:10:20.280 was I was psyched because like this is a guy that, 2:10:20.440 --> 2:10:22.520 you know, not like a top five pick. 2:10:22.600 --> 2:10:24.360 It's like Day two kind of guy. 2:10:24.920 --> 2:10:27.040 That guy's got some skills, he can play, he can 2:10:27.080 --> 2:10:29.000 do some things in the slot and you know whatever, 2:10:29.640 --> 2:10:31.280 That's what I would be more interested in if I 2:10:31.320 --> 2:10:32.600 was doing it as a hobby, like you know, like 2:10:32.640 --> 2:10:36.120 Fretz's Bushbomb. I'm actually looking up his thing here. You're 2:10:36.200 --> 2:10:38.440 kind of right, Fred I was wrong. He never really 2:10:38.520 --> 2:10:40.280 had a job in the NFL. He worked at Pro 2:10:40.320 --> 2:10:42.880 Football Weekly, right, and was kind of a draft guy. 2:10:42.960 --> 2:10:45.280 So he was different than mel Kiper in that he 2:10:45.320 --> 2:10:47.880 actually worked, and Kiper kind of just did it on 2:10:47.920 --> 2:10:50.280 his own. But neither of them was ever an actual 2:10:50.360 --> 2:10:52.840 scout and worked. He's I thought he was more Gil 2:10:52.920 --> 2:10:55.520 Brandt pushbomb, but he wasn't. He just he was like 2:10:55.520 --> 2:10:57.800 the editor. I like Pro Football Weekly. 2:10:57.840 --> 2:11:01.080 I got somebody mad here who really like Joe Bush 2:11:01.120 --> 2:11:03.360 bumbas that he lives in the basement of his mother's house. 2:11:04.640 --> 2:11:10.360 That was the wrong. Pro Football Weekly was a pretty 2:11:10.360 --> 2:11:12.640 good rag back, is that that little one? There was 2:11:12.640 --> 2:11:13.879 always a magazine. 2:11:13.880 --> 2:11:16.400 It was like three quarter size, it was, I remember 2:11:16.440 --> 2:11:16.840 that one. 2:11:17.040 --> 2:11:18.960 Yeah, And actually he had the best one. 2:11:18.880 --> 2:11:22.440 And actually Patrios Football Weekly. Yeah, the font is kind 2:11:22.440 --> 2:11:25.040 of stolen from Football Weekly. I wanted it to look 2:11:25.160 --> 2:11:27.760 like that so people would have that feeling. 2:11:27.840 --> 2:11:29.920 Yeah, yeah when they read it. That's funny. 2:11:29.560 --> 2:11:33.720 I remember that little It's yeah yeah pamphlet. And then 2:11:33.880 --> 2:11:37.040 then Pro Football Weekly had a show that sometimes you 2:11:37.080 --> 2:11:39.440 could watch on Saturday night at eleven thirty if you're 2:11:39.440 --> 2:11:40.440 a loser, And I. 2:11:40.360 --> 2:11:42.000 Think that's still on Pro. 2:11:41.880 --> 2:11:45.000 Football Weekly, Yeah, with like Artcush Cush. 2:11:45.080 --> 2:11:45.240 Yeah. 2:11:45.320 --> 2:11:49.160 And there's one of the former Chicago Bears I think 2:11:49.240 --> 2:11:52.959 is on I think Wantstead is on it, Dave Wanstead. 2:11:53.080 --> 2:11:57.680 Yeah. Let's go to the phones. Randy's in Providence. What's up, 2:11:57.760 --> 2:11:59.960 Randy guy? 2:12:00.120 --> 2:12:04.160 How's it going to the first off, I just want 2:12:04.200 --> 2:12:06.000 to say I love gay back as as a pick, 2:12:06.080 --> 2:12:09.720 Like he's got the size, athleticism and like at the 2:12:09.800 --> 2:12:13.560 edge Russia position production translates from college usually, you know, 2:12:14.000 --> 2:12:17.920 I just really feel good about that pick. I want 2:12:17.920 --> 2:12:20.680 to ask you guys about these upcoming picks here. We 2:12:20.760 --> 2:12:22.800 still need a guard. What do you guys think about 2:12:22.960 --> 2:12:27.280 Jaden Roberts or Anez Cooper? And then like also on 2:12:27.320 --> 2:12:29.920 the offensive line, do you really think that the team 2:12:30.120 --> 2:12:33.040 is like so stuck on proving Will Campbell's a left 2:12:33.080 --> 2:12:36.120 tackle not a right tackle or anything else that they 2:12:36.120 --> 2:12:41.640 wouldn't consider switching him because look, it just philosophically the 2:12:41.720 --> 2:12:44.240 guy who's a really good pass protector but not a 2:12:44.280 --> 2:12:47.240 great run blocker, usually on the left. The guy who's 2:12:47.280 --> 2:12:49.839 a mean run blocker but not the best pass protector, 2:12:49.920 --> 2:12:52.920 usually on the right. So like just you know, I mean, 2:12:53.240 --> 2:12:53.640 for like. 2:12:53.600 --> 2:12:55.600 The entirety of the time that I've been watching. 2:12:55.320 --> 2:12:59.400 Football, that's basically been true. You know, why wouldn't they 2:12:59.440 --> 2:13:03.360 consider a swap ultimately if that's you know, with with 2:13:03.600 --> 2:13:06.919 having draft drafted, but let's say a great pass protector, 2:13:07.040 --> 2:13:07.880 I would hope, I. 2:13:07.880 --> 2:13:10.879 Would hope in a worst case they would consider everything. 2:13:11.000 --> 2:13:12.040 Oh and I think. 2:13:11.880 --> 2:13:12.320 They would be. 2:13:12.880 --> 2:13:15.880 And Elliot Wolf and Mike Rabell both said, well, if 2:13:15.920 --> 2:13:18.360 we can get a better left tackle than Will Campbell, 2:13:18.400 --> 2:13:21.440 then he'll play. But they just didn't feel the reason 2:13:21.440 --> 2:13:24.960 why other than putting a vote of confidence behind Will Campbell, 2:13:25.200 --> 2:13:26.800 is because they didn't feel like they were going to 2:13:26.880 --> 2:13:29.120 do better than the fourth overall pick in the draft 2:13:29.320 --> 2:13:32.560 at left tackle. Now, if maybe Lomu ends up being better, 2:13:32.600 --> 2:13:35.040 but you know, I think that's why, you know, to 2:13:35.160 --> 2:13:38.240 Randy's question, like why in terms of the styles and 2:13:38.240 --> 2:13:40.880 stuff like that, Well, if Will Campbell is just a 2:13:40.880 --> 2:13:43.840 better player then Lomu, then you're not going to make 2:13:43.880 --> 2:13:46.440 Will Campbell play out of position, you know, on the 2:13:46.520 --> 2:13:49.120 right side, just to accommodate Lomu. That that wouldn't make 2:13:49.160 --> 2:13:49.640 any sense. 2:13:49.840 --> 2:13:51.600 And I just I just don't think they'll be stubborn. 2:13:52.320 --> 2:13:54.680 Me neither if they, you know, if they were probably 2:13:54.720 --> 2:13:57.560 more stubborn than them about they watched these guys play 2:13:57.640 --> 2:13:59.680 for a year and they think one's better than the other. 2:13:59.720 --> 2:14:01.760 I don't think they're going to say, well, no, right, 2:14:01.840 --> 2:14:04.280 we're going to play the guy who's inferior. Yeah, I 2:14:04.280 --> 2:14:05.200 think they'll make the move. 2:14:05.760 --> 2:14:08.000 Yeah. I just I think you somewhat throw the needs 2:14:08.040 --> 2:14:10.360 out at this point. I mean a little bit. But 2:14:10.960 --> 2:14:11.960 it's more who. 2:14:11.920 --> 2:14:12.240 Do you like? 2:14:12.280 --> 2:14:13.880 Who do you think has some kind of chance to 2:14:13.920 --> 2:14:16.360 find a role on this team? Not hey, we really 2:14:16.400 --> 2:14:18.320 need to guard. We don't love this guy doesn't really fit, 2:14:18.360 --> 2:14:20.400 but let's just take him anyway. At this point, these 2:14:20.400 --> 2:14:21.640 guys are long shots anyway. 2:14:22.120 --> 2:14:26.360 Yep. So we're closing in. Looks like the Jets are 2:14:26.400 --> 2:14:29.360 on the clock. Three or four picks away, yep. Then 2:14:29.400 --> 2:14:33.600 Bengals and Saints than Patriots at one Jets. 2:14:33.320 --> 2:14:33.880 Pick us in. 2:14:33.960 --> 2:14:41.600 So moving along almost there. So we have Pistons lost again. 2:14:42.000 --> 2:14:43.560 Did they really yeah. 2:14:44.000 --> 2:14:46.920 Red soots one today seventeen to one, Freddy. 2:14:46.680 --> 2:14:47.080 There we go. 2:14:47.320 --> 2:14:49.720 See they're like, you know what, no more of this 2:14:50.080 --> 2:14:50.720 showing hot? 2:14:51.960 --> 2:14:53.120 How did Roman Holiday do? 2:14:53.720 --> 2:14:57.240 He's sad again, said as Jim Murray would call him, 2:14:57.440 --> 2:14:59.040 Roman Garoppolo took the day. 2:14:58.920 --> 2:15:01.160 Off, Roman, I call him? 2:15:01.520 --> 2:15:06.280 Why is he injury? Is just like four games? Then 2:15:06.360 --> 2:15:11.480 last year? Was it like obleaque or something like that? Yeah, No, 2:15:12.560 --> 2:15:15.680 I watched the end of the Celtics game when last 2:15:15.760 --> 2:15:20.880 night had it recorded, and uh, Jaylen Brown and Jason Tatum, 2:15:21.000 --> 2:15:23.080 I mean they probably shouldn't be in a game that's 2:15:23.080 --> 2:15:25.040 that closed against the Sixers in the first round of 2:15:25.040 --> 2:15:27.880 the playoffs, to be honest, but uh, they they closed 2:15:27.880 --> 2:15:29.800 that game out. They they took over the game. 2:15:29.920 --> 2:15:30.840 Big three by U. 2:15:31.040 --> 2:15:34.080 Yeah, actually a big pull up by Jalen Brown too 2:15:34.800 --> 2:15:36.200 to make it a two school game and then a 2:15:36.280 --> 2:15:38.160 dagger three by Tatum to end it. 2:15:39.080 --> 2:15:41.720 Dagger did he? Was he alpha enough for people on 2:15:41.800 --> 2:15:44.120 that one pound on the chest? Like was that did 2:15:44.120 --> 2:15:46.760 he show enough the whole look at the hand. Yeah, 2:15:46.760 --> 2:15:48.000 that's just that's a silly Yeah. 2:15:48.040 --> 2:15:52.760 I don't, I don't, it's oh my god, Mike, that's 2:15:52.760 --> 2:15:54.320 wrong with my hand, it is not sexy. 2:15:54.840 --> 2:16:02.080 Chad's in Los Angeles. Hey Chad, Yeah good? 2:16:03.080 --> 2:16:06.920 And Hey, just about the signal. When I use the app, 2:16:07.280 --> 2:16:09.400 I have a very clear signal. 2:16:09.720 --> 2:16:12.080 But when I just called you guys, you guys sound like. 2:16:12.040 --> 2:16:14.240 You're still working on Netscape. 2:16:16.080 --> 2:16:19.680 So I think that's fatigue. 2:16:20.240 --> 2:16:25.040 Yeah, yeah, you're you're I mean, he's sound very like digitized. 2:16:25.440 --> 2:16:27.920 Uh gut role. But let me ask my question. 2:16:28.000 --> 2:16:28.920 Then I'll get off the call. 2:16:29.000 --> 2:16:31.600 And you know, just if that's helpful for you guys 2:16:31.640 --> 2:16:34.800 to tech support purposes, I don't know, but okay, so. 2:16:34.840 --> 2:16:38.160 Here's my question. The guy that just called a little 2:16:38.200 --> 2:16:40.840 while ago, he was talking about little Cammell and how 2:16:40.840 --> 2:16:44.600 dedicated we are, you know or not to him, and 2:16:44.720 --> 2:16:47.480 it made me kind of reflect on last year a 2:16:47.520 --> 2:16:51.040 little bit. And you know, we obviously we made it 2:16:51.120 --> 2:16:51.680 a super Bowl. 2:16:51.800 --> 2:16:55.160 That's awesome, but you know, we kind of beat up 2:16:55.240 --> 2:16:58.160 on the weaker guys because of our schedule, and then 2:16:58.160 --> 2:17:01.920 when we got to the tougher teams, you know, our 2:17:02.240 --> 2:17:07.520 product duty really dropped out. So this spear is going 2:17:07.600 --> 2:17:09.680 to be a lot harder. And it kind of made 2:17:09.720 --> 2:17:12.280 me think about that little Campbell saying like, do you 2:17:12.280 --> 2:17:16.720 guys really think that we are like really dedicated to 2:17:16.800 --> 2:17:19.520 him as our left tackle and that he's going to 2:17:19.600 --> 2:17:21.120 have the jump that we need. 2:17:21.760 --> 2:17:24.880 And how much do you think we're improving so far? 2:17:25.600 --> 2:17:29.200 And I guess on that note, let's pretend we have 2:17:29.320 --> 2:17:29.920 agent Brown. 2:17:29.959 --> 2:17:37.199 I guess yeah, okay, well, all right, the call clear line? 2:17:37.280 --> 2:17:38.160 All right, thanks Chad. 2:17:38.440 --> 2:17:39.959 The issues with your cell phone? 2:17:40.400 --> 2:17:43.879 Your cell phone is not too great either. Well, I guess, first, 2:17:44.040 --> 2:17:48.280 are they that dedicated? 2:17:48.680 --> 2:17:51.680 I thought, But every time they've been asked, they emphatically 2:17:51.680 --> 2:17:54.240 say that, Well, I don't know what else you can 2:17:54.280 --> 2:17:57.240 do without playing and showing it. But at this time 2:17:57.280 --> 2:17:58.879 of year, you just keep saying he's. 2:17:58.760 --> 2:18:02.560 Our left tackle, and you know, fino, he said. Loaneo 2:18:02.640 --> 2:18:05.039 said that Will Campbell was the first person to text him, 2:18:05.040 --> 2:18:07.760 so clearly, Will Campbell, I would, was right on the 2:18:07.760 --> 2:18:10.280 cutting edge of that decision and had his number and 2:18:10.400 --> 2:18:12.880 was ready to go right away. So yeah, but I 2:18:13.080 --> 2:18:14.360 just again, I don't think that they're going to be 2:18:14.400 --> 2:18:17.200 stupid and they're gonna be stubborn about it. But to 2:18:17.240 --> 2:18:18.840 Paul's point that he made at the top of the 2:18:18.879 --> 2:18:21.480 first show that look, you've got an athletic. 2:18:21.080 --> 2:18:22.080 Kid that I don't know. 2:18:22.280 --> 2:18:24.240 Will Camble might just get hurt, like, he might just 2:18:24.280 --> 2:18:27.160 get hurt like and you're going to need an athletic tackle, 2:18:27.240 --> 2:18:28.879 so you know there's that factor too. 2:18:28.920 --> 2:18:31.200 It's too bad to Will Campbell got hurt. I'd like 2:18:31.240 --> 2:18:33.400 to say that at least we could have like done 2:18:33.440 --> 2:18:35.320 this on like an even playing field. 2:18:35.480 --> 2:18:38.280 And I'm gonna apologize because I like, now all of 2:18:38.280 --> 2:18:40.320 a sudden, we're getting a lot of calls on it 2:18:40.360 --> 2:18:43.360 because of that email that started this, and I didn't like. 2:18:44.120 --> 2:18:47.640 I think it's a non factor today. I don't think 2:18:47.640 --> 2:18:51.400 it's really much. Every time that Rabel and Elliott Wolf 2:18:51.440 --> 2:18:54.400 have been asked about it, it's emphatic he's the left tackle. 2:18:54.600 --> 2:18:56.760 Evan might be right, that might be a vote of confidence, 2:18:57.160 --> 2:18:59.760 But I would be stunned if we go to OTA's 2:18:59.800 --> 2:19:02.039 in a couple of weeks and they line up for 2:19:02.080 --> 2:19:04.640 any kind of a formation and Will Campbell's not the 2:19:04.680 --> 2:19:08.200 left tackle. It'd be flat out stunning to see that 2:19:09.120 --> 2:19:11.400 when they play this year. If it doesn't go well 2:19:11.480 --> 2:19:13.640 and then they have then we can have these conversations. 2:19:14.000 --> 2:19:16.600 But right now, I think it is premature to back Evans. 2:19:16.640 --> 2:19:20.000 I'm not backing off of our conversation. But yeah, to 2:19:20.080 --> 2:19:22.240 your side of it right now, it's not I don't 2:19:22.240 --> 2:19:22.800 think worth it. 2:19:22.959 --> 2:19:25.240 And that's all I was trying to say to it. 2:19:25.400 --> 2:19:27.600 Just it feels a little bit premature to. 2:19:27.600 --> 2:19:32.760 Be I think we're going to have a trade. 2:19:32.840 --> 2:19:36.360 Yeah. I think they traded out of the pick the Patriots. Yeah, 2:19:36.360 --> 2:19:37.000 I traded out. 2:19:37.040 --> 2:19:39.320 Oh that's not what we're looking for. That's adding picks, 2:19:39.400 --> 2:19:40.000 not far. 2:19:39.840 --> 2:19:44.000 Though far now, and now they're going to have to 2:19:44.520 --> 2:19:45.520 before their next pick. 2:19:45.640 --> 2:19:47.360 Basically, So I. 2:19:47.280 --> 2:19:49.959 Did see the Jets took that guard that someone. 2:19:49.720 --> 2:19:53.080 Just says yes, yeah, and as Cooper bigger guard, another 2:19:53.320 --> 2:19:55.800 like nasty road grading type of guard. 2:19:55.640 --> 2:20:01.160 Glass eater glass a lot about It's weird. 2:20:00.959 --> 2:20:03.360 About sometimes though with those guys. Friend is like he 2:20:03.840 --> 2:20:06.640 was he played really high, so even though he was 2:20:06.680 --> 2:20:08.680 like yeah, you could tell that he was big. Now 2:20:08.760 --> 2:20:11.320 though he's big, and he played a lot with a 2:20:11.320 --> 2:20:13.680 lot of raw power, Like a lot of those guys 2:20:13.720 --> 2:20:16.240 don't create as much movement because of their pad level. 2:20:16.280 --> 2:20:18.879 You know, we're talking about wrestling and leverage yesterday, they 2:20:18.920 --> 2:20:22.360 just aren't getting underneath guys and pushing them back. Paul's 2:20:22.400 --> 2:20:24.840 upset because we just added more picks. It's okay, Paul, 2:20:25.560 --> 2:20:27.880 It's okay, Alex. 2:20:30.800 --> 2:20:33.440 This is the prototypical you're not doing low movie. 2:20:34.320 --> 2:20:34.800 What do you mean? 2:20:35.600 --> 2:20:38.560 This is the prototypical Belichick trade just for the sake 2:20:38.600 --> 2:20:39.119 of trading. 2:20:40.120 --> 2:20:42.760 Okay. Can we just tell the trade now because we've 2:20:42.800 --> 2:20:43.600 been talking about it. 2:20:43.720 --> 2:20:49.960 Yeah, So and two forty five be the picks. 2:20:50.959 --> 2:20:52.400 So we gave up one ninety one. 2:20:52.680 --> 2:20:55.440 So yeah, we just did going down to to what 2:20:55.520 --> 2:20:57.280 one ninety six? So I think that one ninety six 2:20:57.320 --> 2:21:01.680 and one ninety eight now be with Tennessee I believe 2:21:02.440 --> 2:21:06.320 a Jaguars. Yeah, and then they'll have two forty five 2:21:06.360 --> 2:21:10.760 and two forty seven as well. So now they have 2:21:11.280 --> 2:21:16.119 five more picks, three six rounds and two seventh rounders 2:21:18.320 --> 2:21:21.000 twelve two forty five and two forty seven. 2:21:22.600 --> 2:21:26.400 Okay, so we'll we'll hang out until one ninety six 2:21:26.520 --> 2:21:27.600 and one ninety eight. 2:21:27.879 --> 2:21:30.080 Yeah, that coming up quick. 2:21:30.200 --> 2:21:34.560 See what's gonna go on a lot of emails coming in. 2:21:35.400 --> 2:21:35.520 Uh. 2:21:35.520 --> 2:21:38.200 The most interesting Patriots fan of the world says, if 2:21:38.200 --> 2:21:41.879 furniture is inanimate objects that are easily moved, as deusyndicated, 2:21:42.200 --> 2:21:44.920 I'm still taking Will Campbell first in the furniture draft. 2:21:45.080 --> 2:21:50.240 Oh oh, does the chair have long enough arms for you, though? 2:21:50.280 --> 2:21:50.560 Is that? 2:21:51.320 --> 2:21:52.800 Yeah? 2:21:53.080 --> 2:21:55.440 What a tremendous draft, Robert Rights. 2:21:57.120 --> 2:21:59.560 I have one hundred percent lied to my family friends 2:21:59.560 --> 2:22:02.560 that employed to stay home and watch the draft. Now 2:22:02.640 --> 2:22:05.240 I do house chores with my earbuds in because I 2:22:05.280 --> 2:22:08.400 have all what I have? You all watching it for me? Oh? 2:22:08.440 --> 2:22:12.000 There you go. I don't know, did you, guys ever 2:22:12.200 --> 2:22:14.040 any other reason you skipped schoo I remember I skipped 2:22:14.040 --> 2:22:16.119 school once when I was like in elementary school because 2:22:16.120 --> 2:22:18.040 it was my little sister's birthday and there she was 2:22:18.080 --> 2:22:19.800 having like a party. She was like a four years 2:22:19.840 --> 2:22:21.600 old and I wanted to hang out for cake. So 2:22:21.640 --> 2:22:25.680 I don't feel so good, mom, that's a real fat kid. 2:22:25.920 --> 2:22:30.440 Yeah, let's see Tim wrights in, he said, Fred, be 2:22:30.560 --> 2:22:33.760 patient with me. Who would you rather pick a six two, 2:22:33.840 --> 2:22:36.840 one hundred and ninety four pound cornerback who ran a 2:22:36.879 --> 2:22:39.080 four four five forty yard dash and played in the 2:22:39.080 --> 2:22:43.879 Big twelve and sac or a six', one one hundred 2:22:43.879 --> 2:22:46.480 and ninety two cornerback safety who ran a four to 2:22:46.480 --> 2:22:49.920 two seven and played in the college in THE cfp 2:22:50.120 --> 2:22:50.560 in The big. 2:22:50.640 --> 2:22:53.200 Ten On day, THREE i have no. 2:22:53.240 --> 2:22:55.800 Idea this is obviously two people that exist. 2:22:55.480 --> 2:22:55.920 In, Right. 2:22:57.560 --> 2:23:01.480 But you're giving me nothing about players LIKE i can 2:23:01.520 --> 2:23:03.200 give you a guy who walks down the street and 2:23:03.280 --> 2:23:06.320 has those? Measurables has he ever played down a football 2:23:06.360 --> 2:23:08.240 in his? LIFE i don't know who was talking. 2:23:08.240 --> 2:23:10.840 About the first one played in The big twelve in THE, sec. 2:23:11.080 --> 2:23:14.640 But did he play, WELL i don't know he do 2:23:14.760 --> 2:23:15.920 you know if it's any? 2:23:15.920 --> 2:23:16.200 Good? 2:23:16.400 --> 2:23:20.600 Yeah, well chances are these two guys that he's profiling. 2:23:20.600 --> 2:23:21.720 Here evan's the only one who knows. 2:23:21.800 --> 2:23:24.959 Him SO i don't have this blasting numbers. 2:23:24.959 --> 2:23:27.920 Out if you give me the, NAMES i won't know, 2:23:27.959 --> 2:23:28.959 them SO i can't give you an. 2:23:28.959 --> 2:23:30.920 Opinion, well the first one the six, two one hundred 2:23:30.920 --> 2:23:33.680 and ninety cornerback who ran a four four five and 2:23:33.720 --> 2:23:36.720 played in The big twelve AT. Sec As Karen, prunty. 2:23:36.720 --> 2:23:39.720 He did not play in THE. Sec he was briefly 2:23:40.000 --> 2:23:42.920 supposed to go TO i Think South, carolina but he Didn't, 2:23:43.040 --> 2:23:44.640 okay didn't actually play. 2:23:44.600 --> 2:23:47.320 The six to one hundred and ninety two. Cornerbacks last 2:23:47.360 --> 2:23:50.480 safety who ran a four to two seven and played 2:23:50.520 --> 2:23:53.000 in THE cfb and The Big ten And Notre dame 2:23:53.520 --> 2:23:56.000 Was Lorenzo styles From Ohio state who went to The 2:23:56.040 --> 2:23:57.320 saints after our. Pick. 2:23:57.600 --> 2:24:03.760 Yeah the, Yeah PRUNTY i, believe like was committed to 2:24:03.840 --> 2:24:06.880 transfer To South. Carolina never made it To South, carolina 2:24:07.000 --> 2:24:09.600 ended up going To kansas, instead and then made his 2:24:09.640 --> 2:24:14.400 way To Wake forest. Eventually but there's no doubt That, 2:24:14.440 --> 2:24:17.760 styles his brother went seventh overall in the, Draft Sunny. 2:24:17.760 --> 2:24:20.440 Styles there's no doubt that people were talking about that 2:24:20.480 --> 2:24:22.640 player a lot more than That, prunty you. 2:24:22.680 --> 2:24:25.400 KNOW i, mean it's my running back, Receiver Josh. 2:24:25.480 --> 2:24:28.920 Cameron that was another. One it's fun is, This AS 2:24:28.959 --> 2:24:30.640 i said To, Paul it's like sometimes you just see 2:24:30.640 --> 2:24:34.000 a guy who's kind of different and, weird and that 2:24:34.040 --> 2:24:36.120 was Definitely Josh. CAMERON i, remember didn't only see a 2:24:36.120 --> 2:24:38.039 total fifth form. BAT i just kind of just. 2:24:38.040 --> 2:24:41.039 One of those guys that makes place and you, know. 2:24:41.320 --> 2:24:45.800 Runs, hard good college. Player, yeah let's. 2:24:45.800 --> 2:24:48.280 See bruno, SAYS i just had a brief but very 2:24:48.320 --> 2:24:52.560 insightful exchange with SHAT. Gbt the extremely short version of 2:24:52.600 --> 2:24:55.120 the reason For round five being the least valuable is 2:24:55.160 --> 2:24:59.480 that teams take a conservative approach drafting for roster depth 2:24:59.520 --> 2:25:02.440 instead of taking flyers when the math says they should 2:25:02.440 --> 2:25:05.680 be doing, otherwise and they do this because general perception 2:25:06.120 --> 2:25:08.560 is that a round five failure is a bus not 2:25:08.640 --> 2:25:11.720 a bet that didn't. Pay and of course it's least 2:25:11.720 --> 2:25:13.320 a media criticism fans booming a. 2:25:13.400 --> 2:25:16.720 JOB i CAN i can see, that like if you 2:25:16.760 --> 2:25:19.160 some somehow like a fifth round is high enough that 2:25:19.240 --> 2:25:22.560 like you'll think team, yeah yeah, yeah whereas like the 2:25:22.600 --> 2:25:25.120 sixth or seventh round just flyers anywhere they don't make. 2:25:25.160 --> 2:25:27.600 It he has the, whole he has the whole. Conversation 2:25:27.680 --> 2:25:28.560 BUT i don't want to get into. 2:25:28.600 --> 2:25:30.959 IT i, MEAN i think there could be some validity to. 2:25:31.000 --> 2:25:33.840 THAT i was wondering if, maybe you, know to that, 2:25:34.000 --> 2:25:36.960 point like we were talking about. Earlier you, Know Kaishan 2:25:37.000 --> 2:25:39.240 boody ends up going in the sixth round because of 2:25:39.240 --> 2:25:41.600 his ankle and because of what turns out some legal 2:25:41.640 --> 2:25:45.800 trouble off the field AT. Lsu you, know maybe the 2:25:45.840 --> 2:25:48.200 fifth round people feel like it's too early to take 2:25:48.480 --> 2:25:50.400 on some of that, risk you, Know but then all 2:25:50.440 --> 2:25:51.800 of a sudden you get to the end of the 2:25:51.879 --> 2:25:54.360 draft and that's when you are willing to take on 2:25:54.879 --> 2:25:58.800 a risk like. That and it's not a lack of 2:25:58.840 --> 2:26:02.760 talent that those players, fail it's off the field issues 2:26:02.840 --> 2:26:06.040 why those players fell Our. Injuries so there's a couple 2:26:06.040 --> 2:26:08.160 of guys like you know that are still on the 2:26:08.160 --> 2:26:12.720 board that were we knew ahead of, time had some 2:26:12.720 --> 2:26:18.120 some skeletons and some some. Issues, yeah things like. That 2:26:18.640 --> 2:26:21.240 so maybe that's that's why we're. Here you, Know Garrett 2:26:21.240 --> 2:26:23.160 nestmeier had like the back thing he had to. 2:26:24.800 --> 2:26:24.840 His. 2:26:25.000 --> 2:26:26.920 Spiners, yeah you, know so. 2:26:28.120 --> 2:26:29.959 He, is and like that's another. ONE i don't. KNOW 2:26:30.560 --> 2:26:34.080 i didn't wasn't aware That Jack injuries had any sort 2:26:34.120 --> 2:26:36.760 of injury or medical flags or anything like. That but, 2:26:36.800 --> 2:26:39.680 clearly uh he, does because you, know he was supposed 2:26:39.720 --> 2:26:41.120 to be like a fourth or fifth round pick and 2:26:41.120 --> 2:26:41.480 he's still. 2:26:41.480 --> 2:26:44.879 Available mark In, Lakeland florida wants to know how we 2:26:44.959 --> 2:26:47.080 stand on the back of the envelope guys of The 2:26:47.120 --> 2:26:50.920 patriots taking any of? Them, no so Far Kobe, Young 2:26:51.520 --> 2:26:56.160 tanacozio And Jude Barry bowery have been, taken but there's 2:26:56.200 --> 2:27:02.519 still uh, one, two, three, four, five six guys. 2:27:02.520 --> 2:27:04.800 That still the seventh rounds your time to. 2:27:04.800 --> 2:27:06.840 Shine Nolan rucci is the guy THAT i think will 2:27:06.920 --> 2:27:09.720 end up being a patriotlan Because Todd, Ruthy, YEAH i 2:27:09.760 --> 2:27:10.760 think he'll end up being A. 2:27:10.760 --> 2:27:12.160 Patriot getting. Invited we love. 2:27:12.200 --> 2:27:15.160 That so they're gonna make nine, picks right if they? Don't, 2:27:15.280 --> 2:27:18.199 yes that's they started with, Eleven, PAUL. 2:27:18.320 --> 2:27:22.920 I, know AND i got all, excited, sure just getting. 2:27:23.000 --> 2:27:26.280 UPSET i wonder if IF i, listen it's not my, 2:27:26.360 --> 2:27:28.120 Board but IF i was the, LIKE i wouldn't you 2:27:28.160 --> 2:27:30.560 just at this point of the draft to start throwing 2:27:30.879 --> 2:27:33.440 some darts at some of these like Like i'm off 2:27:33.480 --> 2:27:36.280 the field. Stuff you have to be comfortable with. That but, 2:27:36.400 --> 2:27:39.560 like you, know if it's injury related or you, know 2:27:39.560 --> 2:27:42.080 If Dante corleone has like the blood clot thing popped 2:27:42.160 --> 2:27:44.600 up in medical re checks or something, like but you 2:27:44.640 --> 2:27:46.480 got to, lose like if the, guy if the guy's 2:27:46.480 --> 2:27:48.680 health pans out and he's you, know he's gonna be 2:27:48.680 --> 2:27:51.160 a good. Player he's gonna be better than most six round. 2:27:51.160 --> 2:27:55.160 Picks jeremy writes in we have some time to kill 2:27:55.200 --> 2:27:58.600 before the. Picks we probably all agree that wide receiver 2:27:58.640 --> 2:28:01.560 one Is Aj? Brown why receiver two Is Romeo? Dobbs 2:28:01.840 --> 2:28:02.800 would you agree. 2:28:02.560 --> 2:28:03.840 With that wide? 2:28:03.879 --> 2:28:06.879 Receiver so if you were THE gm or the wide receiver, 2:28:06.959 --> 2:28:09.720 coach who would you be banking on as you're starting 2:28:10.160 --> 2:28:11.280 W r, three four and. 2:28:11.440 --> 2:28:14.400 Five, WELL i Think Mac collins is going to have a. 2:28:14.480 --> 2:28:17.680 ROLE i, MEAN i don't think you necessarily qualify him 2:28:17.680 --> 2:28:20.080 as like wide receiver, four BUT i think that's kind 2:28:20.120 --> 2:28:21.920 of what he. Is like why wide receiver four or? 2:28:21.959 --> 2:28:24.240 Five but a good, one you, know a guy that can, 2:28:24.280 --> 2:28:26.959 contribute that has a chemistry With. Drake saw him make 2:28:27.040 --> 2:28:30.640 some big plays and you, know Super bowl touchdown after. 2:28:30.680 --> 2:28:32.640 THAT i Just i'm hoping For Kyle williams and then 2:28:32.800 --> 2:28:34.160 we'll see how it goes out With. 2:28:34.560 --> 2:28:37.000 But you've really got three for four. There you've Got Kyle, 2:28:37.040 --> 2:28:41.040 Williams Booty, Pop, douglas And. Hollins those are your four 2:28:41.120 --> 2:28:44.600 left right, yep, ye you know for all, intents. 2:28:44.000 --> 2:28:47.240 So you're bringing an extra guy somebody's. OUT i, mean right, 2:28:47.280 --> 2:28:50.360 now it would point probably Towards. POP i, think you. 2:28:50.320 --> 2:28:52.760 Know, YEAH i MEAN i think you, ideally to answer the, 2:28:52.840 --> 2:28:55.400 question like you you'd hope That Kyle williams is the 2:28:55.400 --> 2:28:59.720 wide receiver. Three that's the ideal situation, realistically just looking 2:28:59.720 --> 2:29:01.960 how comfortable they were with each other last, Year Mac 2:29:01.959 --> 2:29:03.680 collins probably has the best. 2:29:03.760 --> 2:29:06.240 Chance i've been really surprised If mike is wrong And 2:29:06.480 --> 2:29:08.039 Mac collins doesn't have a significant. 2:29:08.080 --> 2:29:09.640 Role because of, THAT. 2:29:09.600 --> 2:29:11.920 I do, wonder you, know maybe he's more of like you, 2:29:11.959 --> 2:29:14.440 Know paul were you were talking earlier about he's kind 2:29:14.440 --> 2:29:16.879 of like a slot tight end type of. Player maybe 2:29:16.920 --> 2:29:18.960 that's the role because he's not going to PLAY. X 2:29:19.000 --> 2:29:21.920 OBVIOUSLY A. J brown is going to PLAY, x which which. 2:29:21.959 --> 2:29:25.000 WONDER i worry Where booty winds up because he kind 2:29:25.040 --> 2:29:27.080 of filled that role last. Year and again we talked 2:29:27.080 --> 2:29:29.960 about all the trade rumors you, know about him leading 2:29:30.000 --> 2:29:32.920 into the. Draft does he ended up? STAYING i, mean 2:29:32.920 --> 2:29:33.959 there's your thing To paul. 2:29:34.040 --> 2:29:36.680 OF i, mean Mac collins has had some stops and 2:29:36.720 --> 2:29:38.640 he's kind of been the same player every, place and 2:29:38.680 --> 2:29:40.040 it just seems like all of a sudden it kind 2:29:40.080 --> 2:29:42.720 of runs their course and teams move. On doesn't seem 2:29:42.760 --> 2:29:45.720 like that's the direction it's. Headed BUT i Just i'll 2:29:45.760 --> 2:29:48.480 be interested to see what happens If Kyle williams doesn't really, 2:29:48.560 --> 2:29:51.400 progress and you, know because he's going to be in 2:29:51.440 --> 2:29:52.959 a situation where he needs to show. 2:29:53.000 --> 2:29:56.280 SOMETHING i just wonder If Kyle, williams. 2:29:57.360 --> 2:29:59.120 When you think, of you, KNOW A. J brown at 2:29:59.120 --> 2:30:03.240 this stage of his, Career Romeo, dobbs Neither, BURNERS i 2:30:03.280 --> 2:30:06.360 would SAY A. J brown's winning with. Physicality you, Know 2:30:06.440 --> 2:30:09.120 Romeo dobbs is winning with like craftiness and you, know 2:30:09.280 --> 2:30:14.640 sort of, consistency, steadiness at least For Kyle, williams like 2:30:14.720 --> 2:30:17.039 the path is is that you're the one like that 2:30:17.080 --> 2:30:19.760 can really stretch the field with your. Speed you. Know 2:30:19.840 --> 2:30:22.240 Matt collins has sneaky, speed you, know BUT i don't 2:30:22.240 --> 2:30:24.760 know if that's truly, like you, know this is a different. 2:30:24.800 --> 2:30:26.879 Dimension Kyle williams kind of brings a little bit of 2:30:26.879 --> 2:30:31.280 a different dimension and obviously more size than Than pop you, 2:30:31.280 --> 2:30:34.720 know who has speed. Too so IF i Was Kyle, 2:30:34.720 --> 2:30:36.920 williams like that's how that would be the best case 2:30:36.920 --> 2:30:39.800 scenario to me is, like you, Know i'm kind of 2:30:39.800 --> 2:30:42.880 complimentary to these two, guys and maybe that's what they're. 2:30:42.879 --> 2:30:44.800 THINKING i don't know how much ex they're putting In 2:30:44.879 --> 2:30:47.640 Kyle williams's, basket but maybe they're, thinking you, KNOW. A. 2:30:47.760 --> 2:30:51.000 J brown is gonna win with you, know, physicality and 2:30:51.040 --> 2:30:53.720 he's gonna win the, ball and you Know dobb's gonna 2:30:53.720 --> 2:30:56.240 win with his route running and we got our, Burner. 2:30:56.320 --> 2:30:58.280 KYLE i do have to. Apologize they said they have 2:30:58.320 --> 2:31:01.520 four players for three. Positions really five players left. 2:31:01.560 --> 2:31:05.959 Out i'm glad that you corrected, that because you know, 2:31:06.040 --> 2:31:09.200 what you should at least bring him up like he 2:31:09.640 --> 2:31:10.720 deserves to be brought. 2:31:10.800 --> 2:31:13.480 Up, yeah, yeh he should be in the. MIX i 2:31:13.480 --> 2:31:16.320 mean your two get, stronger small school kid you. 2:31:16.360 --> 2:31:19.760 Know, yep come In eddie's In New. York what's, Up? 2:31:19.840 --> 2:31:22.240 EDDIE i thought we WERE i thought we were improving the. 2:31:22.320 --> 2:31:25.240 ROSTER i was trying to. Win Sorry eddie? 2:31:25.400 --> 2:31:28.000 There, yes, yes what's? 2:31:28.040 --> 2:31:28.160 Up? 2:31:28.360 --> 2:31:32.840 Going first time call on love you guys. Show i'm 2:31:32.879 --> 2:31:35.320 a big dew fan of the offensive. Line do you 2:31:35.360 --> 2:31:38.400 think The patriots have done enough to address your line 2:31:38.840 --> 2:31:41.879 or should or not? Enough whether remain pick should go? 2:31:41.959 --> 2:31:44.400 There Because i'm the one to think that if you 2:31:44.400 --> 2:31:47.880 protect the, quarterback any wide receiver could get. OPEN i 2:31:47.959 --> 2:31:49.360 just want to pay your take on. 2:31:49.440 --> 2:31:52.959 The, okay have they done enough to offensive on? Guard? 2:31:53.040 --> 2:31:54.480 Yes, YEAH i take out of guard. HERE i MEAN 2:31:54.480 --> 2:31:55.160 i don't think is. 2:31:55.160 --> 2:31:56.600 It going to? WORK i don't, know BUT i think 2:31:56.600 --> 2:31:57.280 they've addressed. 2:31:57.280 --> 2:32:00.200 IT i Mean Elijah, Vera tucker And Caleb. BLOMO i 2:32:00.200 --> 2:32:02.080 Mean Bear tucker is one of your bigger free agent. 2:32:02.160 --> 2:32:03.879 Signings loan was your first round. 2:32:03.879 --> 2:32:06.360 PICK i mean and that's coming on the heels of 2:32:06.400 --> 2:32:09.080 taking a tackle with the fourth overall. PICK i, mean 2:32:10.040 --> 2:32:10.879 there's so much more you can. 2:32:10.959 --> 2:32:12.320 Do there's always more things you could. 2:32:12.320 --> 2:32:14.400 Do but they had a first and a third round 2:32:14.400 --> 2:32:17.000 pick last year that are. Starting they had a first 2:32:17.080 --> 2:32:18.920 round pick this year that at the very least is 2:32:18.920 --> 2:32:19.480 going to provide. 2:32:19.520 --> 2:32:19.840 Depth. 2:32:20.160 --> 2:32:23.280 You As evan, said one of your one of your 2:32:23.320 --> 2:32:27.600 top free agent signings was a starting. Guard last, year 2:32:27.640 --> 2:32:31.120 you also signed a starter at tackle and free agency 2:32:31.160 --> 2:32:36.200 In Morgan. Moses everybody tells me that there's no lineman 2:32:36.200 --> 2:32:39.160 in the, league but yet The patriots are thin at 2:32:39.200 --> 2:32:41.320 the offensive line because they don't have a seventh or eighth. 2:32:41.320 --> 2:32:45.039 Option and this is not directed at the. Caller this 2:32:45.120 --> 2:32:46.920 is kind of what's going on around. Here like a 2:32:46.920 --> 2:32:49.120 lot of the REP i mean offensive. LINE i, mean 2:32:49.120 --> 2:32:51.480 they got to do something about that offensive. Line how 2:32:51.560 --> 2:32:52.280 much more can you? 2:32:52.320 --> 2:32:54.760 Do you just have to talent. 2:32:54.800 --> 2:32:58.000 Correctly you can't complain about. It they do, stuff and then, 2:32:58.360 --> 2:33:00.760 oh they shouldn't have taken linemen you've been. 2:33:00.800 --> 2:33:02.760 SAYING i don't think anybody saying they shouldn't have taken. 2:33:02.800 --> 2:33:04.920 LINEMAN i think people are, wondering did they take enough, 2:33:04.959 --> 2:33:06.600 lineman AND i don't, LIKE i don't know how many 2:33:06.600 --> 2:33:09.360 of you can, take, Right, like The chargers were like 2:33:09.560 --> 2:33:11.720 six seven deep at tackle last year and they still 2:33:11.720 --> 2:33:13.920 found a way to get to the. PLAYOFFS i, mean 2:33:13.959 --> 2:33:15.880 obviously we saw that they had no shot when they 2:33:15.879 --> 2:33:19.640 got there because of. That but that's kind of uncommonly 2:33:19.680 --> 2:33:21.680 bad luck what they what they went through with the 2:33:21.680 --> 2:33:22.640 tackle position last. 2:33:22.720 --> 2:33:25.800 Year, yeah and they've had a good uh draft solidifying. 2:33:25.840 --> 2:33:27.280 That you, know one of the guys we. LIKED i 2:33:27.320 --> 2:33:29.760 think they Grabbed Travis. BURKE i think maybe yeah. 2:33:30.440 --> 2:33:33.800 Play i'm saying everybody says there aren't enough tackles in the, 2:33:33.840 --> 2:33:36.600 league and The patriots have a problem because they don't 2:33:36.640 --> 2:33:39.480 have a third or fourth tack do you, Know, LIKE 2:33:40.600 --> 2:33:42.080 i just don't know what else you can. 2:33:42.120 --> 2:33:45.560 DO i, mean that's it's like all of this right. 2:33:45.600 --> 2:33:47.760 Now it's like they don't have a third, linebacker they. 2:33:47.640 --> 2:33:54.880 Don't want offensive, lineman and The patriots have drafted an offensive. 2:33:54.879 --> 2:33:59.480 Lineman The patriots Drafted Demitrius cronover From TEXAS a AND 2:33:59.640 --> 2:34:03.080 m so so really interesting. Player he was like WHEN 2:34:03.120 --> 2:34:05.720 i started the process back In, february everybody thought that 2:34:05.760 --> 2:34:07.320 he was going to be like a top one hundred. 2:34:07.360 --> 2:34:09.840 PICK i don't know why he fell out of the 2:34:09.920 --> 2:34:13.320 draft this. FAR i then The beast came out And 2:34:13.400 --> 2:34:16.200 dane had, him you, know around this range as. WELL a, 2:34:16.240 --> 2:34:19.400 big powerful right. Tackle this is a pure right tackle. 2:34:19.480 --> 2:34:22.400 Prospect he played right tackle At TEXAS a AND. M 2:34:22.400 --> 2:34:25.560 but big, hands you, know lots of raw power to his, 2:34:25.680 --> 2:34:28.320 game you, know kind of that prototypical right side of 2:34:28.360 --> 2:34:32.279 the line type of. Player but he's sixty seven three nineteen. 2:34:32.280 --> 2:34:33.879 Pounds you ready for this, one, dude. 2:34:33.680 --> 2:34:34.039 Give it to. 2:34:34.080 --> 2:34:39.959 Me thirty five and three eighth inch. Arms thirty five 2:34:40.040 --> 2:34:43.800 and three eighth in arms on this, guy so extremely long. 2:34:43.920 --> 2:34:47.640 Arms he locks him out really heavy cinder block for. 2:34:47.760 --> 2:34:50.800 Hands but you know he's got some development to. Do 2:34:50.879 --> 2:34:54.560 another guy that, has you, know a lot of development to. 2:34:54.600 --> 2:34:56.279 Do AND i think a lot of people were worried 2:34:56.320 --> 2:34:59.320 about some of that type of. Stuff but from a 2:34:59.680 --> 2:35:04.080 raw ball Of clay's standpoint in terms of measurable's, length 2:35:05.080 --> 2:35:10.080 power play, Strength, uh he's got that foundation to, potentially you, 2:35:10.120 --> 2:35:10.680 know stick in the. 2:35:10.760 --> 2:35:12.560 League do you think they're gonna take maybe just take 2:35:12.560 --> 2:35:14.600 some of his arms off and give it to you, 2:35:14.680 --> 2:35:16.400 know other members of the offensive line is. 2:35:16.400 --> 2:35:19.160 That it's possible you could take a half inch. 2:35:19.200 --> 2:35:21.800 Off is he long for this? 2:35:21.840 --> 2:35:23.400 One, WELL i MEAN i think it's A i MEAN 2:35:23.440 --> 2:35:25.039 i think this guy probably a little bit more of 2:35:25.200 --> 2:35:28.920 a ceiling than you might, expect but similar. SIZE i, 2:35:28.920 --> 2:35:29.600 mean another you, know. 2:35:29.760 --> 2:35:35.480 Giant, YEAH i MEAN i had him at forty first 2:35:35.840 --> 2:35:37.920 in my big on my big. Boards good win for. 2:35:37.959 --> 2:35:42.200 YOU i pulled that one on BECAUSE i when, originally you, 2:35:42.280 --> 2:35:44.520 know LIKE i, said when we started this back In, 2:35:44.600 --> 2:35:46.920 february this was one of those guys that was going 2:35:46.959 --> 2:35:48.720 to be in their sweet spot in the third or fourth. 2:35:48.840 --> 2:35:50.560 Round might have looked at your board. 2:35:50.640 --> 2:35:55.840 Maybe at ninety five, One like all the early mocks 2:35:55.879 --> 2:35:58.400 had cronover as, like, well if you don't take tackle 2:35:58.480 --> 2:36:00.360 in the first, round then maybe we'll take him in 2:36:00.360 --> 2:36:02.720 the middle. Rounds and this was the, guy you know 2:36:02.760 --> 2:36:05.200 when this all. Started i'll have to do something you 2:36:05.320 --> 2:36:08.080 and find out. Why you know that didn't come out 2:36:08.120 --> 2:36:10.560 once the grade came out for the teams at the 2:36:10.640 --> 2:36:13.200 end of the. Draft but you, KNOW i compared him 2:36:13.240 --> 2:36:15.080 To Cam. Robinson you, KNOW i think that that he's 2:36:15.120 --> 2:36:18.120 got that kind of physicality and that kind of power to. 2:36:18.200 --> 2:36:20.800 Him but the arms is obviously what stands. OUT i 2:36:20.800 --> 2:36:22.880 mean he's got the guy's got over thirty five inch, 2:36:23.000 --> 2:36:25.680 Arms so that's, like you, know rare kind of arm 2:36:25.760 --> 2:36:26.760 light that you don't see every. 2:36:26.840 --> 2:36:31.160 Day, Okay so that means The rams are on the. 2:36:31.200 --> 2:36:33.879 Clock they just traded in to the one hundred and 2:36:33.920 --> 2:36:37.680 ninety seventh pick and then it's The patriots again at 2:36:37.680 --> 2:36:42.280 one ninety, Eight so we've got another big pick coming. 2:36:42.360 --> 2:36:44.879 Up while we're, waiting we'll go back to the, phones 2:36:45.560 --> 2:36:48.240 and it Is neil And. Warwick what's? That? 2:36:48.440 --> 2:36:50.360 Neil, hey what's going? 2:36:50.360 --> 2:36:51.400 On you? 2:36:51.520 --> 2:36:54.480 Know, hey SO i haven't called in a. While it's 2:36:54.480 --> 2:36:57.000 been a long time SINCE i called, in but do. 2:36:57.400 --> 2:36:59.920 SO i was, thinking you, Know i'm In Ohio state 2:37:00.080 --> 2:37:04.000 and we wish we Took Max claire last, night but 2:37:04.480 --> 2:37:07.119 we did get a tight, end SO i knowing when 2:37:07.240 --> 2:37:10.920 is happy right. Now but the other, Thing i'm curised 2:37:11.040 --> 2:37:13.720 nobody Has Kake cayden courage From Ohio. State you. KNOW i, 2:37:13.760 --> 2:37:17.120 MEAN i think he'd be great figure you can, learn you, 2:37:17.200 --> 2:37:20.279 know uhl refer defensive. 2:37:20.360 --> 2:37:20.920 END i move my. 2:37:20.959 --> 2:37:25.840 Mind i'm, TIRED i got a. Baby so but besides, 2:37:25.879 --> 2:37:28.840 THAT i think they should Draft. KERRY i mean verable 2:37:28.879 --> 2:37:31.280 with the defensive End Ohio states and then turn into a. 2:37:31.280 --> 2:37:34.280 Linebacker SO i think they can turn SO i think 2:37:34.320 --> 2:37:34.960 would be a pretty good. 2:37:35.000 --> 2:37:37.920 Pick all, right Thanks, Neil Matt. Morrell we got to 2:37:37.920 --> 2:37:40.840 look into why our phone's beeping on our. End it's definitely, 2:37:40.959 --> 2:37:41.400 us not. 2:37:41.440 --> 2:37:42.039 That we gotta call. 2:37:42.160 --> 2:37:43.400 Waiting it's pretty. 2:37:43.400 --> 2:37:46.680 Cool, yeah all, Right so any reaction to the. 2:37:46.640 --> 2:37:50.160 Call, WELL i don't. Know i'm, Sorry i'm still on Crown. 2:37:50.200 --> 2:37:52.720 Over it's, just you, know is this, UH i mean 2:37:52.760 --> 2:37:55.480 they drafted another, big long right, tackle you, know, like 2:37:57.120 --> 2:37:58.160 is he going into the? 2:37:58.160 --> 2:37:59.560 GUARD i, Mean paul's give an. 2:37:59.560 --> 2:38:02.760 Eyeball paul's just talking about we don't have enough. TACKLES i, 2:38:02.760 --> 2:38:04.879 mean right now you, have by my. COUNT i know 2:38:05.000 --> 2:38:08.360 some of them are, bumps but you have eight, tackles you, 2:38:08.400 --> 2:38:10.560 know including some of the practice squad guys from last 2:38:10.600 --> 2:38:14.240 Year's Lawrence Matt Marcus bryant from last. Year. 2:38:14.400 --> 2:38:17.440 YEAH i think they're they're trying to add some. Depth 2:38:17.440 --> 2:38:19.960 this is where you. GET i was told You i'll 2:38:19.959 --> 2:38:22.119 be stunned if they don't take some offensive lineman in day. 2:38:22.160 --> 2:38:24.560 THREE i would have thought probably a. 2:38:24.600 --> 2:38:27.320 Guard maybe we'll get a guard. Now But i'm not 2:38:27.520 --> 2:38:30.120 overly surprised about a, tackle And evan had one that 2:38:30.400 --> 2:38:32.680 was on his. Radar, YEAH i should get tickets or 2:38:32.720 --> 2:38:33.440 can't be too much of. 2:38:33.520 --> 2:38:35.800 Us, No i'm pretty excited about this pick BECAUSE i 2:38:36.200 --> 2:38:38.360 thought that he was going to go much higher because 2:38:38.400 --> 2:38:39.160 you had him on your. 2:38:39.200 --> 2:38:40.520 Board, NO i, mean like. 2:38:42.360 --> 2:38:44.600 They picked him at one ninety, six and you, KNOW 2:38:44.720 --> 2:38:47.320 i just looking at the consensus. Board WHEN i published 2:38:47.680 --> 2:38:49.720 my big, board the consensus ranking for him was one 2:38:49.800 --> 2:38:52.119 hundred and three and they drafted them at one ninety. 2:38:52.120 --> 2:38:55.840 Six elliott will talk after the. Draft maybe there's more 2:38:55.879 --> 2:38:57.880 to the story that we don't know about about why 2:38:57.920 --> 2:39:01.800 he fell ninety something picks off. Consensus but the one 2:39:01.800 --> 2:39:03.760 THING i would say is like WHEN i watched, HIM 2:39:03.760 --> 2:39:07.120 i didn't really feel like guard was in his. Future 2:39:07.200 --> 2:39:10.199 he actually played tight end early on and then put 2:39:10.240 --> 2:39:13.080 on weight and then became a, Tackle so he's already 2:39:13.160 --> 2:39:16.680 kind of moved one spot over. Already SO i didn't 2:39:16.720 --> 2:39:19.080 watch him and, think you know that he had like 2:39:19.120 --> 2:39:21.120 he doesn't play like a. Guard he plays a little 2:39:21.160 --> 2:39:25.080 bit more, upright is you know. Lamb his like leverage 2:39:25.120 --> 2:39:27.720 is a little bit more higher. Cut so, LIKE i 2:39:27.760 --> 2:39:30.520 didn't really see him as someone that could play, guard 2:39:30.800 --> 2:39:35.320 BUT i did see him as like a classic McDaniel's right, 2:39:35.440 --> 2:39:39.200 tackle and McDaniel's historically has had The Marcus cannons like 2:39:39.240 --> 2:39:41.240 that kind of right tackle that was just like a 2:39:41.320 --> 2:39:44.240 rogue grading type of. Player and that's like what this 2:39:44.280 --> 2:39:47.959 guy sort of reminded me of. Of SO i think 2:39:48.000 --> 2:39:50.200 that this is pretty solid pick. Here this is WHAT 2:39:50.240 --> 2:39:52.240 i wanted them to do in this, round was, like 2:39:52.600 --> 2:39:55.000 all these guys that have fallen through the cracks for whatever, 2:39:55.040 --> 2:39:57.560 reason just just take some, darts you, know throw some 2:39:57.680 --> 2:40:00.280 darts on some of these guys and hopefully some of 2:40:00.320 --> 2:40:01.800 them work. OUT i think they traded out. 2:40:01.640 --> 2:40:05.119 Again, yeah The, vikings and that's going to be until 2:40:05.640 --> 2:40:10.320 two thirty. Four all, Right, well so that means we 2:40:10.360 --> 2:40:12.600 should probably wrap things up so you guys can get to. 2:40:12.680 --> 2:40:14.840 Work we didn't add a, pick, though we did not 2:40:15.600 --> 2:40:15.920 for next. 2:40:15.959 --> 2:40:18.760 Year, yeah well we're gonna need that next. 2:40:18.800 --> 2:40:20.119 YEAR i don't care same. 2:40:20.560 --> 2:40:27.160 Today all, Right, okay that's. 2:40:27.200 --> 2:40:30.320 It it's been a Good draft, twenty great. 2:40:30.360 --> 2:40:35.440 Weekend patriots are continuing to add a couple. Players we'll 2:40:35.440 --> 2:40:37.840 have all of that On patriots Dot com and our other. 2:40:37.920 --> 2:40:41.560 Platforms Elliott wolf will be speaking live On patriots Dot 2:40:41.560 --> 2:40:44.760 com at the end of the seventh, round so we'll 2:40:44.800 --> 2:40:48.680 get his explanation for what he. Did we'll have stuff 2:40:48.720 --> 2:40:52.760 from the draft, room you, know uh calls to the, 2:40:52.760 --> 2:40:54.960 players the players will have their press, conference so there's 2:40:54.959 --> 2:40:57.160 a lot of content that will still to come On 2:40:57.200 --> 2:41:01.440 patriots Dot com later this afternoon in, too so stick with. 2:41:01.560 --> 2:41:06.600 Us we'll be back On, Tuesday Patriots unfiltered to have 2:41:07.160 --> 2:41:09.680 really have had time to digest, everything and we'll get 2:41:09.680 --> 2:41:13.200 into it. Then but for, now For, duce For, evan For, paul, 2:41:13.280 --> 2:41:16.320 Myself Matt morrell and the booth and everybody behind the. 2:41:16.360 --> 2:41:20.440 Scenes thank you for sticking with us all. Weekend it's 2:41:20.480 --> 2:41:24.480 been a fun. Draft you, know it Wasn't there wasn't 2:41:24.520 --> 2:41:27.039 a lot of quarterbacks involved this, year BUT i think 2:41:27.040 --> 2:41:29.560 it was an interesting draft and one we might be 2:41:29.600 --> 2:41:32.480 talking about for a few years to. Come, yeah if 2:41:32.520 --> 2:41:34.879 it works out for The patriots and four six round 2:41:34.879 --> 2:41:36.680 picks next, Year so get ready for all, Right. 2:41:36.560 --> 2:41:37.040 Paul can't. 2:41:37.040 --> 2:41:39.560 Wait have a good rest of your. 2:41:39.560 --> 2:41:43.160 Weekend, hey this Is. 2:41:43.200 --> 2:41:45.280 Deuce thanks for tuning into the. Show if you really 2:41:45.320 --> 2:41:47.080 want to help, us make sure you like us wherever 2:41:47.120 --> 2:41:50.160 you get your podcasts Like Apple podcasts Or. 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