1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back. Second hour of Play and 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 1: Buck begins right now. Everybody, and I'm getting live updates, 4 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 1: text messages, even audio. It sounds like a scene from 5 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: Apocalypse Now with Robert Duval in the beginning, with all 6 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: the helicopters and they play the Valkyries. They've got a 7 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: flight of the Valfyries helicopters all over Midtown Manhattan right now. 8 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: I've got audio being sent to me by friends and 9 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: family in New York City. It's just crazy what's going 10 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: on there. They're telling me. It sounds like we're preparing 11 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: in New York for an occupying army to arrive, or 12 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: you know, there's an invasion the North Koreans like in 13 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: Red Dawn, or finally gearing up and they're coming to 14 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: New York City. I don't think any of that is 15 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: obviously happening. But do you wish you were there as 16 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: a long I'm a New York City native. You're down 17 00:00:57,680 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: in Miami right now. Do you wish you were in 18 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: New York City for the chaos today? Or are you 19 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 1: kind of glad that you're not in the middle of it. 20 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: I'm actually happy I'm not in the middle of it, 21 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: because it makes me sad what the leadership of New 22 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: York City has for years now done to New York City. 23 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 1: And the fact that it's amazing to me as well 24 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: that Donald Trump is the most New York guy you 25 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,839 Speaker 1: could ever find. It's not that Trump left New York, 26 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: so to speak. New York left Trump. He's a queen's boy. 27 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: His dad, Fred Trump, was there for a long time. 28 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: My grandfather actually knew Fred Trump back in the day 29 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: in Brooklyn and New York City because my family goes 30 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 1: way back into New York. I think we came over 31 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: during one of the potato famines. And you know, he's 32 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: as New York as it gets. He's even got a 33 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: little bit of a you know, a little bit of 34 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: a queen's a little bit of a queen's lilt or 35 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: twang to his you know, the way he speaks, and 36 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: people are in New York. You know, the city just 37 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: became such a different play. He had so many people 38 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: moving there, both you know, from around the country but 39 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: also from around the world. And there's no connection to 40 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: this guy. The fact that Donald Trump's arrival, you know, 41 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: results in this under these circumstances, it's kind of hard 42 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 1: to take. As a New Yorker. You sit there here, 43 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: like what has happened to this place? I mean, they 44 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: should be throwing ticker tape parades. This is the New 45 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: York guy who was the president, who may be the 46 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: president again, and New York is acting like he's at that. 47 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: You know, he's Attila and he's got one hundred thousand 48 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: screaming horsemen behind him. They're about to pillage and destroy. 49 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: It's insane. It's also worth noting here, Buck, if Trump 50 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: had moved to Florida, let's say, in twenty fourteen or 51 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 1: twenty thirteen, to your point, these charges would have never existed. 52 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's just worth contemplating that. The 53 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 1: reason they're able to bring these charges against him, And 54 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: I hate to say it, but it's almost like a 55 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: warning to any Republican who lives in a blue city 56 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: or a blue state, they will come after you aggressively 57 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 1: if they can. You almost need because if Trump had 58 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: moved a decade ago, let's say, to Florida and done 59 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: everything else in his life the same way, I don't 60 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 1: think that there would have ever been charges that were 61 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: able to be brought against him in New York City 62 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 1: in this particular state violation. And so my point on 63 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: this is, I do think that this is kind of 64 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: we've talked about the crossing the Rubicon moment, but I 65 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: think if you're out there and you live in Chicago, 66 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: or you live in la or you live in New 67 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: York City, and you're in any way thinking about being 68 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: involved in Republican politics, the message that is being sent 69 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: by this district attorney is we will come after you 70 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: based entirely on your politics. Because let's say Trump had 71 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: decided to be a Democrat, right, which he was for 72 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: much of his life, these charges never get brought exact 73 00:03:56,440 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: same behavior except he runs for the twenty sixteen Democrat 74 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: nomination instead of the Republican nomination. They don't even dream 75 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: of ever bringing these charges exact same behavior, exact same 76 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: The irs could have had a field day if they 77 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: actually looked into what was going on with the Clinton 78 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 1: Foundation and the Clinton Global Initiative and the you know, 79 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 1: the whole thing was a massive, it was a billion 80 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: dollar influence peddling scheme. The whole thing was just end 81 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 1: runs on camp. It was basically a shadow campaign for Hillary. 82 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: I mean Bill Clinton, people forget this. He got paid 83 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 1: eight hundred thousand dollars by a Russian backed bank effectively 84 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: for a speech. I mean, you know, look, look at 85 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 1: a hunter Biden is selling his artwork to anonymous downers 86 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 1: for fifty He's selling his finger paintings. The crackhead, tax dodging, 87 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: hormongering son of the current president is selling finger paintings 88 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: for fifty grand. And they're doing this to Donald Trump 89 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 1: right now. It's perfectly said. I would also bring back 90 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: up again Bill Clinton. Okay, Bill Clinton definitely committed felonies 91 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: when he lied under oath about his relationship with Monica Lewinsky. 92 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: He settled all of that on his final day in 93 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: office to avoid facing criminal charges, and everybody just signed off. 94 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 1: I think he paid a twenty five thousand dollars fine 95 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: and rode off into the sunset. Hillary just settled, I 96 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: believe a federal election complaint over the Steel dossier, which 97 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 1: was totally made up, manufactured bs. I think she paid 98 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: a little bit over one hundred thousand dollars and that's 99 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 1: gone away, right. So this idea that what Trump did 100 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 1: is somehow criminal, even in the context of recent politicians 101 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: is even crazier and more insane that he would be 102 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 1: going being charged in this case. And I can tell 103 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,919 Speaker 1: you that we saw this with the media. We mentioned 104 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 1: this a little bit yesterday, and now you're seeing it 105 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: with the legal system. The people that are pushing this, 106 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: who have Trump's arrangement syndrome, the people who are pushing 107 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: this have convinced themselves that it's just this one time 108 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: for this one guy. And we are here to remind 109 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: everybody that that is absolutely untrue, and that is the 110 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: gateway to tyranny. It's we're just going to get rid 111 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: of all the rules, We're just going to get rid 112 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: of all the principles this one time for this one guy. 113 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: That is what results in the destruction of systems that 114 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: are very hard to rebuild, very hard to resurrect. And 115 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: you know, the legal system, you know, Clay, when I 116 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 1: was in the CIA, one fascinating thing that I saw 117 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: a lot because you know, there are the countries that 118 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 1: I got sent to, but also I had access to, 119 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: you know, the secret world stuff that we know about 120 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: a lot of different countries. And you know, the two 121 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: things you find, first of all, a lot of other 122 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: countries now we're talking about the non Western democracies, but 123 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: a lot of like third world places. The whole government's 124 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: thing is how do we get the people in charge 125 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: rich and how do we keep them in charge. That's it. 126 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: Nothing else really matters. And what you realize is the 127 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: key tools in that the military goes with you know, 128 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: in these countries whoever pays them. So, yeah, the military 129 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: is important, but really the two things that you need 130 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: to have if you want to be an autocrat or 131 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: if you want to have a you know, a day 132 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: facto one party state. You know, like some of these 133 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: some of the stand countries I forget, you know, Turkmenistan 134 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: or whatever. They have an election, but you know, ninety 135 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: nine percent goes to one guy or ninety two percent 136 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: goes to one guy. If you want to have that, 137 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: you need control of the intelligence services and the judiciary 138 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: prosecutorial wing of the government. If you have those two things, 139 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: there can be no opposition. If you have those two things, 140 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: you can stifle anybody who's a threat to your power 141 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: quietly and behind the scenes or out in the open, 142 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: with the full you know, seal of government approval from 143 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: the judiciary. And that is how tyranny actually functions, and 144 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: I would add into that media right, or you can't 145 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: have an independent media that would call out the intelligence 146 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: services or the judiciary for their corruption in conjunction with 147 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: whoever's ruling the country. But actively, if you try, I 148 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: was gonna say, the intelligence you disappear, right, that's the 149 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: or you get prosecuted. Yeah. Right, And that's the scary 150 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: thing to me about where we are in the United 151 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: States right now. All of these propaganda i'll call them 152 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: media outlets are effectively carrying water for people in positions 153 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: of power. Now. I feel very unsafe about our FBI 154 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: and our CIA and our intelligence agencies. The one thing 155 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: that I at least have some faith in is our 156 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: Supreme Court, and that's partly because of Trump. Right, the 157 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: Supreme Court justices that we have are willing to stand 158 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: up at least in theory to the media and the 159 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: power dynamics associated with the Democrat Party. Right now, you 160 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 1: bring up a very important point that I think is 161 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: lost in a lot of this discussion, which is the 162 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 1: hatred for Trump started out entirely from the laft based 163 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 1: on who he was and what he stood for. But 164 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: you have to remember, especially for the activists, for the 165 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: apparatus as it stands. For the Democrats, what Trump did 166 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 1: added to that dramatically, and perhaps no place more so 167 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: than with the Supreme Court than the fact that the 168 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: Trump Supreme Court justices are the reason why people are 169 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 1: not being told there's a constitutional right to abortion anymore, 170 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: which was an obvious absurdity of the Supreme Court. One 171 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 1: of the worst decisions in history was Rove Wade, and 172 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: they're furious about that. Still, there's a rage that Trump 173 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: has pres is it an added to with his accomplishments 174 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: that I think also feeds into a lot of this 175 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: that people take very personally. They blame Trump, they blame 176 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: him for what he did. And let me just say this, 177 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: this is going to take years to play out, but 178 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: Democrats have seeded the ground here with the charges that 179 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: they have brought in New York State, and maybe they're 180 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: going to bring it in Georgia. And maybe they're still 181 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: going to do something with the Department of Justice Jack 182 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 1: Smith investigation, the special counsel that is probing JAN six 183 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 1: and the classified documents. But if Trump wins in the courts, 184 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: which I think he will, because I think these New 185 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 1: York State charges again will review them as soon as 186 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: the indictment goes public. But based on all reports, I 187 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: think these New York State charges are garbage. At some 188 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: point the court may well step in and throw out 189 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: these charges and say this is garbage. But can you 190 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 1: imagine the reaction if the Supreme Court tosses these charges 191 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: in the next year or year and a half, and 192 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: the judges who vote to toss the charges were appointed 193 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: by Donald Trump. They're going to argue, I'm just telling 194 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: you in advance, I'm playing this out. They're going to 195 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: argue that the United States justice system that they are 196 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: currently using to their utmost that they control, with the 197 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: Department of Justice that they control through so many of 198 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: these Soros backed prosecutors all over the country in big cities, 199 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: They're going to argue that the justice system isn't legitimate, 200 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court has to be expanded, and that their 201 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 1: preferred judges have to be put in power. Because, again 202 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: to your point, I think, through a large extent, they've 203 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: taken over vast swaths of the CIA and the FBI. 204 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 1: I do think that unfortunately, So I can I just 205 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 1: tell you that I know people that have left the 206 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: Intel community in the last two years in particular. Yes, 207 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: that would agree with that exactly. Not only would they 208 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: agree with that, they wanted to talk to me about 209 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: how bad it's gotten. And then just quietly they've reached 210 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 1: out and said, honestly, I'm scared. Yeah, that's where I 211 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 1: mean that. That is, if you're in the CIA or FBI, 212 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: or you're a former member of either, and you're afraid 213 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: to actually talk about how bad things have gotten, that's 214 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: a sign that you're talking about totalitarianism. They've taken over 215 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:21,959 Speaker 1: the intelligence community, they certainly buy in large have taken 216 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: over much of the media out there, right, Like we 217 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: are Rebel Alliance members in general getting to talk to 218 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: our audience. But if you did away, let's say, with 219 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: Rupert Murdoch's companies, there almost is no opposition media in 220 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: America today, right If you took away the New York Post, 221 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: Fox News, Wall Street Journal, there's almost no one out kick, 222 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: which which Foxes bought. There's almost no one out there 223 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: willing to challenge the left wing orthodoxy. The last just 224 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: think about it, what you just said. The last group 225 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: standing is the judiciary, and they are trying to take 226 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:01,959 Speaker 1: over our justice system, and Trump is in their way. 227 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: Getting down to the getting down to the wire here, 228 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: my friends, we don't. It's scared a lot of room 229 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: for I mean, I am a yeah, we don't. I'm 230 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: a super optimist. But if you look at the ground 231 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 1: that they have overtaken, we're we're on our back heels 232 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: defending on the edge of what is basically a complete 233 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 1: takeover of our government. Our side, unfortunately, is happy to 234 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: live their lives and be left alone. 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We are tracking the latest, obviously on what 271 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: is a historic, historic day for our country, one that 272 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: is highly unfortunate. Trump has left Trump Tower and is 273 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: on his way to the Manhattan Courthouse. He is expected 274 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: to enter a not guilty plea in that courthouse potentially, Buck, 275 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: and we will go live if it happens. There are 276 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: reports that he may talk to media on his way 277 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: into the courthouse and on his way out of the courthouse. 278 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: We will bring you every single bit of that live 279 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: as we see fit well. Also soon go back to 280 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: our producer Aleishman with Rush for twenty years before she 281 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: started working with us a couple of years ago when 282 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: this show started. She is in the scrum outside of 283 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: the Manhattan Courthouse. We will be going back to her 284 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: soon to hear what she is seeing from the ground there. 285 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: In the meantime, a couple of you went awagh in, 286 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: let me get your calls Wilbur in North Carolina. Wilbur, 287 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: what you got for us? So Buck opened our broadcast 288 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: by asking the million dollar questions, can America be saved? 289 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: And how do we get it back? In the brilliant 290 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: founders of this nation answered that question when they said 291 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: America's laws and judicial system is for a just, moral people. 292 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: And when our institutions become corrupt and immoral, and when 293 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: the citizens become apathetic, then we start dying a death 294 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: about thousand cuts, and gentlemen, we are knocking on the 295 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: door of just that. I enjoy your show, Thank you 296 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: so much. Look, this is why we all have to 297 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: take up figurative I want to say this, figurative arms, 298 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: not literal arms against these left wing zealots and have 299 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: to win. 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I believe he's scheduled for a two fifteen 335 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:21,919 Speaker 1: Eastern time arraignment, so about forty five minutes or so 336 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,479 Speaker 1: he is supposed to be arraigned in front of a judge. 337 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 1: It is quite a scene down there. We had our 338 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: producer Ali calling us live from downtown. There's a ton 339 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 1: of media, a ton of police, a lot of activists. 340 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 1: Some footage circulating of pro Trump protesters and anti Trump 341 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: protesters also known as communists, and they're shouting at each other. 342 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,919 Speaker 1: A lot of it has some there'd be some bleeps 343 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 1: for the radio, so we're not going to get into 344 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: that right now. But this is quite a moment in 345 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 1: a bad way for the country. But it is something 346 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: that a lot of people I think will remember and 347 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 1: where thinking Donald Trump is going to be reigned here 348 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: pretty soon. There's the possibility we want to just bring 349 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 1: this deer at tension then in the next hour plus 350 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: so we'll be on the air obviously till three Eastern 351 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 1: sometime in the next hour or so, Donald Trump may 352 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 1: on the steps of the courthouse in Manhattan. A jury 353 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: of New York City left wing liberals is not, and 354 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 1: has never been, Donald Trump's peer, right, So forum shopping 355 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: for those of you who are not familiar with the idea, 356 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: is you want to and I used to deal with 357 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: this sum as a defense attorney. A plaintiffs lawyer wants 358 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: to file a lawsuit in the best possible jurisdiction to 359 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:48,959 Speaker 1: bring his claim, and I practice laws. Some of you 360 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,880 Speaker 1: may know this. In the US Virgin Islands, it's called 361 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: the plainiffs Paradise. Average juror has an eighth grade education. 362 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: Every juror just about knows the family of people who 363 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: are suing big corporations. So if you could sue American Airlines, 364 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: for instance, you wanted to file that lawsuit in the 365 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,679 Speaker 1: Virgin Islands. We just talked Buck a lot about the 366 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 1: Alec Murdock case. The reason why he got so wealthy 367 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: before his life fell apart was because South Carolina allowed 368 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: you to file. My understanding is any lawsuit in any 369 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,719 Speaker 1: county in the entire state, regardless of whether you had 370 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: a direct connection. Right. Usually in order to bring a 371 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 1: lawsuit for people out there who are not aware, you 372 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 1: have to have a connection to the area where the 373 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: lawsuit is being brought. You want to bring the cases there. 374 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: John Edwards, people forget this. We brought him up before 375 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 1: because he is the precedent on the federal side for 376 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 1: the campaign finance issue that they're now stretching and making 377 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 1: a local issue in New York for Trump. But John 378 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 1: Edwards built his wealth by forum shopping and suing obstetricians' 379 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 1: right effectively, and he was so successful. This is who 380 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: the Democrats wanted to make president. John Edwards was so 381 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: successful at suing doctors irrespective of whether there was real 382 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: malpractice by the way, that it became almost impossible for 383 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 1: women to get prenatal care in the state of South Carolina. 384 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 1: Made it real Carolina. I'm sorry, pardon me, yeah yeah. 385 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 1: John Edwards one of the most successful trial attorneys of 386 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: all time. And this is very commonplace. So it would 387 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: be if you were. And the reason why I bring 388 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: this up is if you were trying to get Donald 389 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 1: Trump and you just said, hey, where should we file 390 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: this suit? Where should we charge him with a crime? 391 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,439 Speaker 1: New York City would be one of the three or 392 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: four best venues you could possibly find. San Francisco would 393 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 1: be great. You know, the most liberal places imaginable would 394 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 1: be the most likely to return to you left wing 395 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: jurors who would hate Trump and be likely to find 396 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: them guilty. Now, jury selection is more art than science. 397 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: It's possible, what buck, What did twenty percent of New 398 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: York City vote for Trump? Is that roughly probably the 399 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: math on the larger population of New York City. So 400 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: there's still a one in five chance that you could 401 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: get a Trump supporter on a jury. But the odds 402 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: are stacked massively in Alvin Bragg's favor, and so I'm 403 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: sure that one of the things Trump will try to 404 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:36,360 Speaker 1: do is get this case removed from Manhattan to somewhere 405 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 1: else in the New York City area. I doubt that 406 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 1: a judge who wants let's be honest, wants this case 407 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,199 Speaker 1: like this is a judge's dream, one of the biggest 408 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 1: cases that you could possibly ever get. I doubt that 409 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 1: a judge is going to grant that change of venue 410 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,360 Speaker 1: that will then be once you make so people out 411 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: there understand a big part of what will go on 412 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 1: in the near few is there will be a series 413 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 1: of motions filed by Trump's legal defense team, much of 414 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: which will probably be rejected. But in order to create 415 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 1: an appealable issue, you need to develop all of this 416 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: motion practice so that you can appeal it later, even 417 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 1: if it's rejected by the trial courts as you moved 418 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 1: through the process. And for those of you out there 419 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,679 Speaker 1: that are at all interested in the legal process, in 420 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: the same way that the oj trial kind of opened 421 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: a lot of American's eyes to what the criminal justice 422 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,199 Speaker 1: system actually looks like, and frankly the same way that 423 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: we basically got a civil procedure guide in the two 424 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 1: thousand presidential election, the battle between Bush and Gore over 425 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 1: the Florida election and how rapidly that moved through our 426 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: legal process, this will be sort of a way to 427 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: follow and understand the civil procedure process as all of 428 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:03,120 Speaker 1: the plays out. This is going to be the biggest 429 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: legal circus around the equivalent of a parking ticket, and 430 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: not even really because a parking ticket you probably parked 431 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 1: in the wrong place that anyone has ever seen in 432 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: their entire life. I mean, this is the biggest trial 433 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,400 Speaker 1: of a non crime that any that that has ever had. 434 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if there's ever been one bigger in 435 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,439 Speaker 1: the history of the of the of you know, certainly 436 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: the modern history of the country. This is completely insane 437 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: what they're doing here and what they're putting the country through. 438 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: It brings me back to buck. This is about embarrassing Trump. Yeah, 439 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: of course, it's not why they love what they're what 440 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: they're going after him for. It's fun alleged sexual you know, 441 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 1: interaction with two women that he denies. But it's about 442 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 1: humiliating him. But we also have to absolutely, by the way, 443 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: that's why they've loved talking about the porns thing. And 444 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: remember remember everybody they elevated Michael Avanati, disgraced, convicted felon 445 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: who stole millions of dollars from his clients, including a 446 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: client in a wheelchair that he was representing. I mean, 447 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: Avanati was as scummy a lawyer and human being as 448 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: you could find if you searched really far and wide. 449 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: And he was the most free Michael Cohen, who now 450 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 1: is the linchpin of this entire case, right, but he 451 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 1: is a convicted felon. But but Avanati was elevated on 452 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: CNN and to Tucker's eternal credit. He just always called 453 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 1: him the creepy poorn lawyer before all the stuff came 454 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: out about stealing from the clients, because he knew. He 455 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: knew that Avanati was scummy. Democrats talked about making this 456 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: guy president. You know why, because every time he appeared 457 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: it was all my client had sex with Donald Trump, 458 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 1: who's so dirty and he's so he's so you know, scummy, 459 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: and the whole thing. And Libs just love the whole thing. 460 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 1: They were all about it. But Clay, what I think 461 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 1: what I think we're not not not off, but I 462 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: think people are not really focused on enough. Here is 463 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 1: now you got to imagine you're the prosecutor in Georgia yep, 464 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: and you're the special counsel even in the if, and 465 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 1: this is giving them and I don't need I don't 466 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: need the email saying buck the fixes in. They hate 467 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 1: Trump too, I'm sure they do, even if there was 468 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 1: any part of their mind that was like, look, the 469 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: laws not really on our side here. You know, the 470 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 1: tie goes to the defendant Trump. I hate him, but 471 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: we probably now the pressure is, oh, you don't have 472 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: the stones to bring a criminal charge against him for 473 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,880 Speaker 1: your case. Think about the politics now of the pressure 474 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: on the other criminal investigations of Donald Trump. They their 475 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: facade or their ability to say weak guys, it's it 476 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: has to be overwhelming. We don't con We don't prosecute 477 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 1: former presidents and interfere in an ongoing election unless it 478 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: is oh, actually apparently we do so. Now, their their 479 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 1: ability Clay to point to that, I think is basically gone. 480 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: I think that's an important point because the first person 481 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 1: to break two hundred and forty years of legal precedent, 482 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: even if you are a diet in the wold Democrat, 483 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: I'd like to think, and it may be unfair that 484 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 1: Alvin Bragg, it may be giving him too much credit 485 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,719 Speaker 1: that Alvin Bragg at least contemplated the radical move that 486 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: he was making and still decided to do it. A 487 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 1: lot of das, even if they wanted to get Trump, 488 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 1: would have looked at this and said, I just can't 489 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 1: upset two hundred and forty years of American judicial respect 490 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 1: for political opposition to do this. Once one guy does it, 491 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: what does it matter if you add on charges in 492 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: Georgia or if the federal government does it. Even if 493 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: this is a crap charge, buck. Let's go to break here. 494 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: We're getting footage from inside of Manhattan Criminal Court. We'll 495 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: go to Ali, our producer, right outside of the Manhattan 496 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: Criminal Court. See what the scene is there. 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It's 515 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: easy to find online m A and tsx dot com. 516 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: The Clay and Buck podcast d dives with cool content, 517 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: surprise guests. Get it all on the iheartap or wherever 518 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: you get your welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show, 519 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: We await whether Donald Trump is going to speak to 520 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 1: the media at all or not. Donald Trump currently being 521 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: processed inside a New York City courthouse. Outside that New 522 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:20,719 Speaker 1: York City courthouse is our executive producer Ali, who is 523 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: covering everything outside the courthouse. Ali, I'm sure it's chaotic 524 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: out there right now with Trump in the courthouse. Were 525 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 1: you able to see he raised his fist, he waved. 526 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: Were the people they're able to see Trump at all? 527 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 1: What is the scene like now that he is officially 528 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: on the scene and inside of that building. Okay, so 529 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: I couldn't see it because it's actually getting a lot 530 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: more crowded out here. But I will say the crowd 531 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: and I know I used the word ex festive last time. 532 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: I want to clarify that it's more like just jazzed up. 533 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: The number of American flags all over the place. And 534 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 1: Greg and I break with me. He's my heavy. Today 535 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: we went on the other side, the anti Trump side, 536 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: to get a sense of what they're doing, and they've 537 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: got two pitiful flags or signs, and that's I seem 538 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: to taper off of it, believe it or not. So definitely, 539 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: the Trump supporters are growing and just yazz and I 540 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: was saying to a proucer Mark on the phone, it's 541 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 1: this feeling of they're here not just for what's happening 542 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 1: to Trump, but what's happening to the country. There's this 543 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: collective feeling of no, we're not but we're not going 544 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: to be quiet about this. We're not okay with this. 545 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: But it's it's peaceful, very peaceful, it's very energized a 546 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: better words. Well, that's that's good to hear. Ali Um, 547 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: I'm wondering. Look, I mean, the NYPD can flood the zone. 548 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 1: And Clay and I were talking about this. There are 549 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 1: actually a lot of Trump supporters within the NYPD. You 550 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: won't hear about that very often, but I know for 551 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 1: a fact it's a real thing. Is there a sense 552 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: that is the belief on the street right now? And 553 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: because you can kind of see to set up, is 554 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: there a possibly a historic moment here where Trump may 555 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: come out and address the media directly. Do you have 556 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: any sense or is it just such a so chaotic 557 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: that who even knows where that would happen. There is 558 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: a hope for that, There's definitely an expectation amongst the crowd. 559 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 1: Greg's wearing his Clay and Buck t shirt and we've 560 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 1: gotten a few nods, a discreet head nods from Oh yeah, 561 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 1: you know, that's fun that. The thing about being a 562 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 1: being a Republican of New York City is that when 563 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 1: you come across another Republican you get to just do 564 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 1: the little little nod like you're part of the secret 565 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 1: the secret crew. You guys are definitely undercover a little bit, 566 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: because I mean, muro Buck, we got a monster audience 567 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 1: of people listening to us in New York City right now, 568 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 1: but in Manhattan, you know, it's definitely a minority of 569 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 1: the overall votes. Do you feel Here's the question, um 570 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 1: Ali that I think a lot of people are wondering 571 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: as you're standing out there, do you feel safe? Does 572 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: it feel like this is going to be a relatively 573 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 1: safe event when Trump eventually leaves this courthouse? Uh? You 574 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: said it's you know that there's a lot of energy 575 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: and uh and and earlier festivity, but it's sort of 576 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 1: a jazzed crowd. Do you feel safe? I'll be honest. 577 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: When I'm coming down here this morning, I was a 578 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: little nervous after seeing that Daily Mail story about the scuffles. 579 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 1: I was nervous, and uh, Greg is with me, and 580 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: I feel one safe. I feel almost in some ways 581 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 1: I'm at a rally. Um it's it's I definitely will say, 582 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 1: but a lot of that is due in part to 583 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 1: the heavy police presence everywhere. And uh, I'm looking around. Look, 584 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 1: producer Greg knows if things if things get sticky, just 585 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: sweep the leg. Just tell them, I said, sweep the 586 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: leg exactly. All right, Ali, you are killing it. We 587 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 1: will come back to you at some point in the 588 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 1: next hour, as Trump is scheduled to be arraigned and 589 00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 1: then may address the media, may address that crowd. We 590 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 1: really don't know what to expect. Alice say, safe, We'll 591 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 1: talk to you a little bit. And just for everybody, 592 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,719 Speaker 1: how could Trump if there's any chance for I mean, 593 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 1: there's microphones, ever, there's media everywhere. The whole country's watching this. 594 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,399 Speaker 1: The Donald Trump that we know is going to speak 595 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 1: about right, I mean right away, he's gonna come out 596 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 1: and he's gonna hold an impromptu press conference. I just 597 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: can't imagine him not doing that. The theatricality of this, 598 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: I mean, this is really this is like the the 599 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:30,720 Speaker 1: pinnacle of you know, Act two, scene three or something 600 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,919 Speaker 1: in the Trump saga, Like this is a big one. 601 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: And I would just say, think about how crazy the 602 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 1: Trump Show has been since it started not far from 603 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 1: where they are right now in New York City, when 604 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 1: he came down that escalator in Mara in the Trump Tower, 605 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 1: and how much different things would be in Trump's own 606 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 1: life if he had never run, right, He'd be a 607 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 1: multi billionaire, never charged with any crimes. Instead, this