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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,

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Speaker 2: my name is Noel.

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Speaker 3: They call me Ben. We're joined as always with our

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Speaker 3: super producer Dylan the Tennessee pal Fagan. Most importantly, you

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Speaker 3: are you. You are here. That makes this the stuff

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Speaker 3: they don't want you to know. If you are tuning

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Speaker 3: in to our strange news program, The Evening It publishes,

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Speaker 3: let us be the first to welcome you to Monday,

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Speaker 3: April twenty eighth, twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to April.

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Speaker 4: It's so spooky. Wait, this isn't the spooky?

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Speaker 5: Is that an RSKA impression? That's pretty good?

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Speaker 4: No, No, just spooking would be like welcome.

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Speaker 6: If he has a waiver, he has a bit of

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Speaker 6: h he's got to make him a cryptkeeper knows it's

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Speaker 6: very hard to do that voice without choking on your

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Speaker 3: I also learned recently guys on the Daily zeite guys that,

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Speaker 3: apparently as a ute Tom Waits would scream into his

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Speaker 5: Do that every night, just in the state of the world.

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Speaker 3: What it's like, the most screamable pillow.

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Speaker 5: Oh, it's just the my pillow.

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Speaker 3: Yeah great, that guy's in the news as well as Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Oh real quick up top, I just wanted to ask

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Speaker 6: you guys something, since you're having a minute to catch us.

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Speaker 6: I was watching some YouTube doom scrolly type things. A

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Speaker 6: little shorts have been up on the shorts lately, and

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Speaker 6: somebody pointed out a new arrangement for the press briefing

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Speaker 6: room at the White House, which is essentially a standing

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Speaker 6: room section that is devoted to quote unquote new media. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: but a lot of these folks, one of which I

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Speaker 6: saw a quote from whose name escapes me, represents particularly

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Speaker 6: far right unless, let's just say journalists, journalist d kind

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Speaker 3: I thought I thought you were going to say, No,

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Speaker 3: I thought you were going to say, represents the Lollipop Kids.

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Speaker 6: That's also true, definitely Lollipop Guild. Indeed, lollipip gild.

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Speaker 3: You're absolutely correct. By the way, I did write to

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Speaker 3: the current administration because they have an open h application

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Speaker 3: online where you can request to be a as a

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Speaker 3: new media member podcaster, you can request credentials, and to

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Speaker 3: be all out there.

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Speaker 6: I guess what I was getting at is it seems like,

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Speaker 6: the deck is stacked.

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Speaker 5: A little bit with some of these let's call.

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Speaker 6: Them sympathetic folks end up opinion generating lot of news

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Speaker 6: bites that are very pro administration, and some of these

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Speaker 6: folks literally ask just I mean, beyond softball questions like

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Speaker 3: True that's the best president in the history of the

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Speaker 3: concept of humanity? Isn't it true that you're also fun

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Speaker 3: at parties?

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Speaker 6: It is very much that vibe, and it just I

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Speaker 6: don't know, maybe I'm stating the obvious here. Doesn't it

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Speaker 6: feel like at ploy or a tactic to erode journalism,

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Speaker 6: to erode the idea of what constitutes journalism, And obviously

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Speaker 6: it fits in with the whole concept of the fake

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Speaker 6: news and it just feels another like a very nineteen

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Speaker 5: That's all.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, guy, Speaking of tertiary characters in your favorite movies,

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Speaker 2: can we talk about how dirty The Lost Boys did?

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Speaker 4: Rufio didn't talk about this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my gosh, this is going to be our

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Speaker 3: cold open.

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Speaker 6: I just listened to a discussion on my favorite podcast,

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Speaker 6: blank Check with Griffin and David about Hook and.

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Speaker 2: I seriously, yeah, I watched it last night.

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Speaker 5: Well, Banger Rang Bang Rang.

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Speaker 6: Indeed, listen to the episode, Matt, You're going to be

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Speaker 6: fresh on all the details. And it's a great podcast

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Speaker 6: in and of itself. But they're doing the latter day

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Speaker 6: career of Steven Spielberg. They do directors kind of filmographies

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Speaker 6: Hook and I've been It's been on my.

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Speaker 5: List to rewatch as well. It's not good right, like.

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Speaker 4: It's it's amazing.

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Speaker 3: Okay, what do you it's banger range. They invented the

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Speaker 6: I remember their clubhouse was a kid's dream come true.

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Speaker 3: Everybody's eating like brightly colored gag.

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Speaker 5: That's exactly right, and skateboarding.

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Speaker 6: I want to say it reminded me of the Foot

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Speaker 5: It really made.

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Speaker 2: It's a very specific vibe for the nineties.

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Speaker 4: This is nineteen ninety one.

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Speaker 2: And yes, uh, they're imagining eating magically colored stuff.

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Speaker 3: And if you believe Robin Williams, if you believe in

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Speaker 3: the power of imagination, then you'll never be hungry again.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's nice, dude, Rufio spoiler alert ready three two

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Speaker 2: to one. When Ruffio takes that hit from Dustin Hoffman, right, Captain, Yes,

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Speaker 3: They did him so dirty in hook. I do remember,

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Speaker 3: I do remember watching that thinking what happened to the

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Speaker 3: power of imagination? Can't they just like believe this guy

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Speaker 6: Dang man, that's a good point. You think they could

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Speaker 6: just does it? Snap your fingers? Clap your hands, that's

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Speaker 6: you clap your hands. Yeah yeah, watch out for that uh,

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Speaker 6: watch out for that gator. We're going to talk about

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Speaker 6: some likewise surreal things. We had had some conversations off

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Speaker 6: Mike about people who that we've already we've already dunked

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Speaker 6: we're recording this, there's going to be a huge merger

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Speaker 6: on the horizon for credit card companies so any credit

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Speaker 3: Please don't get on a list with your personal medical records.

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Speaker 3: We've got so much to get to. A new crime

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Speaker 3: But before we do any of that, why don't we

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Speaker 3: FDA news.

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Speaker 4: And we're back.

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Speaker 2: We're getting federal government up in here, everybody.

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Speaker 3: The sexiest thing to say at a party.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, let's talk federal government, guys. On April twenty second,

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Speaker 2: Reuters reported US f DA suspends milk quality tests amid

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, we're talking about this earlier. You know, would

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Speaker 7: I walk through a grocery store. What I like to

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Speaker 7: I like to think we're rolling beat me here, Dylan.

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Speaker 7: I like to think we're rolling the in dice, you

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Speaker 2: Is there cyclospora in this milk or cheese, maybe bird flu.

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Speaker 6: Does this figure into the conversation around raw milk? Isn't

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Speaker 2: Raw it may. But in this case, this is the agency,

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Speaker 2: the FDA, the Food and Drug Administration, that is suspending

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Speaker 6: So the assumption is it's probably fine, nothing to worry about.

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Speaker 2: Uh, yeah, everything's fine.

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Speaker 3: To be clear, nothing is improving for the cows.

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Speaker 2: Yep, cows still in their enclosures, continually just given milk

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Speaker 3: And are they okay? So they're suspending their quality control.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay. According to the FDA, it's being transferred to

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Speaker 2: this place, the FDA's Moffit Center Proficiency testing laboratory is

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Speaker 4: This is all according to an email official that was sent.

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Speaker 2: However, a Health and Human Services spokesperson said the laboratory

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Speaker 2: the staff cuts, and proficiency testing will be paused during

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Speaker 2: It will continue.

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Speaker 4: Who knows?

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Speaker 2: Who knows? There's a proposed forty billion dollar cut currently

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Speaker 3: up on let exposure and it's a I mean, Matt Noel, Dylan,

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Speaker 3: Folks at home it's a blood bath over there right now.

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Speaker 3: their department. I'm gonna say it, I don't think this

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Speaker 2: I would agree with you. Other officials, like within this

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Speaker 3: Yes, read three is the reason we started this show.

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Speaker 6: I only drink sports beverages that have read three in them.

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Speaker 2: They had this little idea. They said, why don't we

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Speaker 2: No, No, they're the one that checks off every thing,

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Speaker 3: In right to them, Matt, I like that, the last

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's pretty weird. It's pretty weird.

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Speaker 2: Capital One has around one hundred million card holders, Discover

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Speaker 3: Actually, he Evikre just had a happy accident. Companies money.

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Speaker 2: Sure, well, but basically they're they're teaming up to make

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Speaker 2: And I don't want to say praying on anybody.

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Speaker 3: I just mean, I mean, you kind of have to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, have fun with that one. We'll see where

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Speaker 2: Everybody who owned Discover stock just got a bunch of

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Speaker 3: Everybody at the meeting is having a great day.

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Speaker 4: That's a great way to put it.

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Speaker 3: Everybody at the met have a great day. Also, if

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Speaker 5: It's gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna twist one day. I'll do that thing, but

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Speaker 6: And we've returned with a with a oh man, this

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Speaker 6: As a way of drawing attention to his efforts, he

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Speaker 6: We're in a handful of celebrities who are women were

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Speaker 6: Space, not quite space, near Earth orbit. I believe about

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Speaker 6: devised and set up on a studio backlot in Hollywood,

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Speaker 6: potentially even directed by the great Stanley Kubrick, all of

443
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 6: that one of the classic conspiracy theories that we have

444
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 6: talked about a great length on this show.

445
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Speaker 3: But that is true. By the way, Stanley Kubrick did

446
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,399
Speaker 3: fake the moon landing. Cool okay, such an awe tour.

447
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 3: He said, the only way they could do it realistically

448
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 3: is to fake the moon landing on the moon.

449
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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, he was like the proto Christopher Nolan. That's

450
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 5: what Christopher Nolan would do.

451
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Speaker 6: Like, there were all these jokes surrounding the idea that

452
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 6: he actually wanted to detonate an atomic bomb, you know,

453
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 6: for the shot in Oppenheimer.

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Speaker 5: So the women in question are Katie Perry. One.

455
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Speaker 6: Katie Perry, pop star of Matt pointed out, I kissed

456
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Speaker 6: a Girl. I think was her first big hit, Firework,

457
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 6: which I think is an absolute banger. I'm quite a

458
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 6: big fan of Firework, and then Our Fireworks perhaps, And

459
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 6: then a little later she had a song that was

460
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 6: pretty inescapable called dark Horse, with a pretty laughable verse

461
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 6: or feature from the rapper Juicy Jay, wherein he compares

462
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 6: the Beast of Karma to Jeffrey Dahmer in that it

463
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,880
Speaker 6: can eat your heart out. So that's a real clever

464
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 6: turn of phrase in there. But I quite enjoy some

465
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Speaker 6: of the music of Katie Perry. She has a late

466
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 6: kind of been lampooned quite a bit by pop culture

467
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:47,919
Speaker 6: aficionado's media critics, et cetera, because I don't know, she

468
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 6: did this whole kind of like the feminist kind of

469
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:55,120
Speaker 6: rollout for her most recent record, and it just came

470
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 6: off very very heavy handed and very very kind of

471
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 6: look at me, rather than actually speaking to real things

472
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 6: behind the idea of feminism and empowering women, etc. It

473
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 6: was just, I don't know, kind of a little bit

474
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Speaker 6: tone deaf, you know, the rollout of that record she had.

475
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 6: I think she were, like, you know, she was dressed

476
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 6: up as like Rosie the Riveter and things like that

477
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 6: in a music video, and it just pretty much got

478
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 6: absolutely crapped on by just about anybody, and the record.

479
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Speaker 5: Did not do well.

480
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 6: She does have a world tour coming up, and I

481
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 6: guess what better way of promoting your world tour than

482
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 6: participating in an elaborate spaceflight pr event. So was Katy Perry,

483
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 6: along with Gail King. Gail King is Oprah's best friend.

484
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 6: Oprah and Gail that's right, I'm sorry, a friend of

485
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 6: the show, Anna Host. I have a daily Zeitgeist, fame

486
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 6: and other things, lots colch Srista's all the big hits

487
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 6: these days. Just I saw she posted from a Broadway

488
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 6: play that she recommended, the name of which is Escaping Me,

489
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,199
Speaker 6: but said that Gail and Oprah were sitting right behind her,

490
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 6: so it had their seal of approval. So along with

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Speaker 6: Katie and Gail, we also had Lauren Sanchez, who is

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Speaker 6: a journalist, helicopter pilot, and also the author of a

493
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 6: children's book called like Fritz the Fly or something like that.

494
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Speaker 6: I like beginning the name wrong, but she's also Jeff Bezos,

495
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Speaker 6: Blue Origin and Amazon CEO's fiance partner. We also have

496
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Speaker 6: Amanda Wynn, who is a civil rights activist, two advocates

497
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 6: for victims of sexual assaults and bio astronautics research scientists,

498
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,479
Speaker 6: something that she also does, and she has worked with

499
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Speaker 6: NASA in the past on the Space Shuttle mission STS

500
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Speaker 6: one thirty five as well as NASA's exo planet Terry

501
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 6: Kepler space telescope. So no slouch there. We also have

502
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Speaker 6: film producer Carrie Ann Flynn and a former NASA rocket

503
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 6: scientist and CEO of engineering firm stem Board and founder

504
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 6: of a company called Lingo that teaches students technology skills.

505
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 6: Her name is Aisha Bo. So all of these women

506
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 6: canned in one of Blue Origins, West Texas launch facilities

507
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 6: for a big televised event wherein they boarded the ship

508
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 6: the Shuttle I guess should call it, were blasted off

509
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 6: into space and then posted videos from their near earth

510
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 6: orbit zero G experience and then returned back to Earth.

511
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 6: The whole thing lasted a whoppings twelve minutes I believe,

512
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 6: and this took place on April fourteenth, as we sit

513
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 6: here on April twenty third.

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Speaker 5: What's the Internet stand.

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Speaker 6: Well, there's a couple of points as to what they

516
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Speaker 6: believe or the collective they believe.

517
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Speaker 5: Is happening here.

518
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 6: There was one particular clue that was highlighted quite frequently,

519
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 6: which is that when the ship landed, or it's called

520
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 6: the believe the New Shepherd is the name of the

521
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 6: pod or the shuttle when it landed. As part of

522
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 6: the ceremony of it all and the kind of photo

523
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Speaker 6: op of it all, Jeff Bezos was supposed to open

524
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Speaker 6: the the door, the pod door, let's just call in

525
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 6: for saying sci fi about it, with this special tool.

526
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 6: But before he got to it, you can actually see

527
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 6: the door opening inward and then quickly being closed. Okay,

528
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Speaker 6: So a lot of folks on the internet seem to

529
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Speaker 6: believe that the door should not have been able to

530
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Speaker 6: open from inside because it it's supposed to be pressurized,

531
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Speaker 6: and if it were to be openable in that direction,

532
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 6: that the pressure of space could potentially, you know, force

533
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Speaker 6: it open.

534
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Speaker 5: So that's one thing.

535
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 6: However, according to NASA, hatch doors should in fact be

536
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Speaker 6: able to be opened by a single crew member without

537
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 6: any special tools from both sides. So the idea here

538
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 6: would be that they opened it kind of jumped the

539
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 6: gun and then realizing they had made a mistake, closed

540
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 6: it really quickly and allowed Jeff Bezos.

541
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Speaker 5: To have his photo op.

542
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Speaker 6: The Daily Mail reports on this, and that is their conjecture,

543
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 6: and that is confirmed by some NASA scientists that they

544
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Speaker 6: spoke with. This whole mission, by the way, is called

545
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 6: taking up Space, and the idea was that it was

546
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 6: meant to promote stem education for young women. All of

547
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 6: the crew members were these fashionable, more fashionable than your

548
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 6: average space suit, very star treki honestly blue skin tight

549
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 6: jumpsuits that were designed by Lauren Sanchez. The central image

550
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 6: that I'm talking about is the one that is causing

551
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 6: folks to do a little bit of a head scratch,

552
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 6: at least.

553
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 5: On the Internet.

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00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 6: With all this talk of illuminati conspiracies surrounding celebrities and

555
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 6: you know dark satanic rituals, even dating back to things

556
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 6: like Pizzagate, the idea of the elite participating in these

557
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 6: you know, dark occult kind of activities. If you look

558
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 6: at the image, it is kind of a you know,

559
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 6: a space pod kind of image stylized with stars and

560
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 6: all of that stuff. It has the names of the

561
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 6: crew members emblazoned around the edges with a little corresponding

562
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 6: icons for each of them. Katy Perry gets a shooting

563
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 6: star microphone kind of thing, and the filmmaker gets a

564
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 6: little real of film. But if you flip it upside down,

565
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 6: it really does start to resemble the head of our

566
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 6: good old buddy, the dark Prince himself, Lord Baphamet, who

567
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 6: is often used as a symbol of the Church of Satan,

568
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 6: which as we know, isn't necessarily interested in the actual

569
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 6: worship of Satan in the occult. They are more of

570
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 6: an organization about civil liberty and about you know, owning

571
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 6: one's own destiny. Do what thou wilt, Let that be

572
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 6: the whole of the law and all of that good stuff.

573
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 6: Bapha Met for them is more of a symbol of

574
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 6: protests and of you know, kind of being down on

575
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 6: the man or you know, rejecting authority and all that.

576
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 5: So when you flip it upside down, it does kind.

577
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 6: Of look like a goat shaped head with a snout

578
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 6: at the bottom. The wings of the craft be come

579
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 6: the horns, and yeah, it's causing some folks to really,

580
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 6: you know, call into question whether or not this thing

581
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 6: was a pr stunt or some sort of elaborate Satanic ritual.

582
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 6: There's an image that's also being noted where Katy Perry

583
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 6: is seen holding her hand over the patch, supposedly indicating

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00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 6: her swearing her allegiance to the Lord Bapha Met. One

585
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 6: observer on x commented, Katy Perry swearing her allegiance by

586
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 6: placing her hand adoringly and lovingly over her Bapha met logo.

587
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 6: They tell you in so many ways who they worship.

588
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 6: Some folks even pointed out that in twenty eleven, Katy

589
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 6: Perry had a music video for her song e Tea,

590
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 6: wherein she is depicted with goat legs. Goat like legs,

591
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 6: of course, a long standing symbol often related to like

592
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 6: Pan or other kind of pagan depictions of satyrs, and

593
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 6: of course Bapha Met himself.

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Speaker 5: So what do you guys think? Do you see it?

595
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 5: It is kind of entertaining.

596
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 6: There's also people talking about how an upside down cross

597
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 6: can be seen as well, if you really you know,

598
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 6: if you squint at it enough.

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00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, while you were walking us through, shared one of

600
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Speaker 7: those images with that badge upside down and I can

601
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,879
Speaker 7: totally see the paradelia of it for sure.

602
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 3: Just here. Let's uh, let's that about pattern seeking right,

603
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 3: that's where you that's the human tendency to maybe see

604
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 3: faces or see patterns where there might not be. So

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00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 3: I'm going to reshare uh this uh, this thing you

606
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 3: were describing there for everybody as we can like as

607
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 3: we're as we're all looking at it now, would love

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Speaker 3: to hear just like group reactions. You know, I I

609
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 3: I get that if you are looking for something, you

610
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 3: are going to find the thing you are looking for

611
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 3: for sure. Not to sound like roomy, but.

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Speaker 5: No, yeah, I get it's very as end of you.

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00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 6: Ben another comment or had this to say, really sums

614
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 6: the whole thing up. Did you notice the logo on

615
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,800
Speaker 6: Katie Perry and her fellow Blue Origin space traveler's patch

616
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 6: is the Satanic goat with an upside down cross If

617
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 6: you flip it over, goat horns celebs fake space. I

618
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,879
Speaker 6: don't think space is in question here, but perhaps fake

619
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 6: space travel also acknowledging a reference to Two Corinthians eleven fourteen,

620
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Speaker 6: Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

621
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but Baphabet's not Satan.

622
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 5: No, no, he's not.

623
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 3: So like, let's get our lore together real for.

624
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 6: Sure, Baha met would be perhaps considered like one of

625
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 6: the lesser demons, kind of like in the what is

626
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 6: it the Key of Solomon? Sort of like Paymon and

627
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 6: all of that stuff. Baphamet is is he like a

628
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 6: prince of Hell? What's what's Baphamet's deal?

629
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Speaker 3: Well, bapha Met the name is relatively young as far

630
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 3: as the the demon game goes, but Bathamet had had

631
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Speaker 3: the distinct privilege of being part of the accusations against

632
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 3: the Knights Templar.

633
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:07,760
Speaker 6: That's right, and also considered a misinterpretation of Islamic beliefs.

634
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 6: Some scholars believe that the name is a corruption of

635
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 6: Mahammet or Mohammed right, right.

636
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 3: This leads some historians or speculators to argue that the

637
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 3: Templars were indeed to some degree following is law.

638
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 6: And if I'm not mistaken, ben, aren't the Knights Templark

639
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 6: often lumped in with Illuminati conspiracies?

640
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 5: Isn't that sort of part of it?

641
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 3: They know what they did, that's fair?

642
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 6: Okay, So this is it does feel like part of

643
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 6: that larger conspiracy bubble of you know, celebrities being in

644
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 6: some way inducted into some sort of shadowy secret cabal

645
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 6: accusations have often flown around surrounding even like choreography of

646
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 6: like Beyonce. I think there was some some stuff talking

647
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 6: about Beyonce and jay Z are part of this. And

648
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 6: recently Coachella took place in the Indio Valley there in California,

649
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 6: and a lot of articles started swirling after Lady Gaga's

650
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 6: performance accusing that of being some sort of Satanic ritual.

651
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 6: So this isn't like the first, you know, satanic rodeo.

652
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 6: It's maybe just the first one that's accused of happening

653
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 6: in space, So you know, I know we're running along

654
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 6: in this. There's a couple other quick points I'd like

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00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 6: to hit, one being that when Katie Perry was in space,

656
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,879
Speaker 6: she holds up a little butterfly sticky note kind of thing,

657
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 6: apparently it's really hard to read, has text on it

658
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Speaker 6: indicating her set list for her upcoming tour that I

659
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Speaker 6: was mentioning earlier. However, some Internet conspiracy theorists have said

660
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 6: that that is actually a reference to MK Ultra and

661
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 6: a form of mind control, because apparently the image of

662
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 6: the monarch butterfly representing metamorphosis and change has been long

663
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,399
Speaker 6: associated with that program, which is actually something I didn't

664
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Speaker 6: fully realize, but it does make sense.

665
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Speaker 5: So there's that.

666
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 6: There's also a thing about like a fake hand that

667
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 6: was visible, Ben, Do I see you nodding? That one

668
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 6: sort of flummecks me a little bit. I didn't quite

669
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 6: get to the bottom of that one.

670
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 2: There's a still that's going around as well as some

671
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 2: video footage after the capsule comes down of a view

672
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 2: through the window where there's a shiny looking hand that

673
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 2: many people in line have said, Hey, that's a mannequin's hand.

674
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,320
Speaker 4: That's a fake hand in the window.

675
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 2: But again it's pretty baseless. It's just kind of the whole.

676
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:38,720
Speaker 2: I don't know the rumor thing starts.

677
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 4: Guys.

678
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 2: I'm looking at that image again of the capsule flipped around,

679
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 2: the actual mission image.

680
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 5: This is the patch. Yeah, they're the logo.

681
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 3: Right.

682
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 2: This is an all female mission. It is about taking

683
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 2: up space and promoting promoting stem for girls.

684
00:38:58,080 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 3: Right.

685
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 2: Yes, think about what the blue Origin space crafts look like.

686
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 2: They look like, so they do and not all.

687
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 7: Of that, Not all of that is due to necessary function.

688
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 3: There's a little bit of aesthetic interesting carry me.

689
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 2: Ben, this this image of the spacecraft is tilted in

690
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,800
Speaker 2: such a way that it looks a little less phallic.

691
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 2: I think that was done purposefully. So I think any

692
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 2: shapes you're getting when you flip it over are due

693
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 2: to the desire to make it look a little less

694
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 2: like a huge dog.

695
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 5: That's a really good point, Matt. So it's a PR move.

696
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 6: It is further apart and parcel of the policity stunt

697
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Speaker 6: ness of it.

698
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 5: All right, Well, it's.

699
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 3: One hundred percent of PR move. We were talking off

700
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:51,760
Speaker 3: Mike before we recorded tonight's program where I had asked

701
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:55,800
Speaker 3: someone to explain who Katy Perry was because I'm super

702
00:39:55,800 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 3: plugged into human culture. And then the next part becomes this,

703
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 3: It would be fascinating to look at the financials a

704
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 3: Blue Origin and see whether this sort of PR stunt

705
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 3: is actually financially advantageous to them. Right, you can take

706
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 3: the hit. You can take the PR hit if the

707
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 3: investors are still coming through, because now they like your

708
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 3: mission more and they get to say, oh, look at

709
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 3: that badge. Blue Origin doesn't look that much like a

710
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 3: penis we should give them money.

711
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Speaker 6: That's a very good point, Ben, and I will will

712
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 6: say too that the biggest takeaway from this whole thing

713
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 6: is just the sort of tone deafness of it all.

714
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Speaker 3: Kardashian, the.

715
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Speaker 6: Pepsi percent that aspect, you know, Katy Perry coming down

716
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 6: and making these very kind of lackadaisical claims of like,

717
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,760
Speaker 6: you know, we've heard of this idea of the overview effect,

718
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 6: and it is I'm sure it's very cathartic, and it's

719
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Speaker 6: something that maybe we can all one day experience as well,

720
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Speaker 6: But right now, the ability to experience that for regular

721
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 6: folks is absolutely out of range. Out of reach in

722
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 6: terms of price, like I believe it costs about a

723
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:10,800
Speaker 6: million dollars once space tourism truly begins, you know, in earnest.

724
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 5: That's about what you're looking to pay.

725
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 3: Are we making The real question here philosophically is if

726
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 3: we are making space, are we making space in this

727
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 3: conversation for other people who are not celebrities at multimillionaires

728
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:29,320
Speaker 3: or is it just sort of like Jeff Bezos and

729
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:34,760
Speaker 3: Blue Orged pitching ideas and not really hearing responses.

730
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 6: One hundred percent that and then funny that you should say, Ben,

731
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 6: I think your version of the mission name is a

732
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 6: little less tone deaf. The real version was taking up space,

733
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 6: which is kind of what these billionaires do, you know,

734
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 6: in terms of taking stuff that other people could benefit

735
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:53,439
Speaker 6: from and not giving back.

736
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 5: So to me, like taking up space is just sort.

737
00:41:56,000 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 6: Of absolutely ill conceived, and like I was getting Tokadiy

738
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 6: Perry making these comments of you know, you never know

739
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 6: truly how much love you have to give until you've

740
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:06,760
Speaker 6: gone to space.

741
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 5: It's like, cool, I guess we'll just have to, you know, settle.

742
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 6: On the amount of love that we are aware that

743
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 6: we have to give without having that experience that you shared,

744
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 6: Katie Perry.

745
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 5: So there you go.

746
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 6: I don't know, it just felt a little gross to me.

747
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 6: I don't think it was faked. I do think that

748
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 6: stuff is interesting and very much part and parcel of

749
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 6: the kind of thought experiments that we enjoy on this show.

750
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 5: But all of it checks out.

751
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 6: I think it happened, and I think the fact that

752
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 6: it did happen is maybe even more offensive and obnoxious

753
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 6: than if it were faked, which why would they do that.

754
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 6: I will say one thing that hasn't been addressed that

755
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 6: I do think is interesting. I did see a video

756
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 6: of an actual, actual astronaut, a woman whose name is

757
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 6: escaping me. I apologize from I believe the International Space Station,

758
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 6: where her hair is absolutely up completely, you know, in like,

759
00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 6: you know, a huge mess of hair. Katie Perry's hair

760
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 6: was much less unkempt looking. It was just gently kind

761
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 6: of hovering. I would argue that maybe the difference is

762
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 6: how deep in space you are that would increase the

763
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 6: gravitational effect.

764
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:12,399
Speaker 5: Am I right?

765
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 6: That if you're further into space more than just sixty

766
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 6: three miles, you're gonna have a heavier amount of zero

767
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 6: gravity effect that would maybe cause your hair to react differently.

768
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 5: What do you guys think about that?

769
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 4: We'll never know.

770
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 5: I guess not. I guess not.

771
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 6: Well, what we do know is we're going to take

772
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 6: quick break here a word from our sponsor, then come

773
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 6: back with another piece of strange news.

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Speaker 3: And we have returned. There is a lot of stuff

775
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Speaker 3: we're not going to get to, but we will follow

776
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 3: up on the promise of a new crime that just

777
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 3: dropped Dylan. If we could get an air horn, perfect,

778
00:43:55,040 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 3: we welcome to wildlife piracy cool a crime that that

779
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 3: we like for a very real thing. Just earlier this April,

780
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Speaker 3: as reported by Evelyd Moussambif for ap News, two Belgian

781
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 3: teenagers were charged with this crime wildlife piracy after they

782
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 3: were found with thousands of ants. They were smuggling ants.

783
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 3: They're nineteen year olds, apparently they they were arrested on

784
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 3: April fifth in Kenya at a guesthouse with five thousand

785
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,760
Speaker 3: ants in their possession and they going.

786
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Speaker 5: Into the ant farm business. They what to what end?

787
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 3: They said they were collected ants for fun. They didn't

788
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 3: know it was illegal. If you guys go to the

789
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Speaker 3: article I mentioned there and shared, it looks like a

790
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 3: professional operation. They have the ants and these tiny graduated cylinders.

791
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 5: When is this a score for ants?

792
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 3: And what it gives me? One of my favorite recent

793
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 3: government statements, which is this the illegal export of the

794
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:06,280
Speaker 3: ants not only undermines Kenya's sovereign rights over its biodiversity,

795
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 3: but it also deprives local communities and research institutions of

796
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 3: potential ecological and economic benefits. So word to the wise.

797
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 3: Remember when in Rome followed Roman law right, So so

798
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 3: no breaking the laws of the land that let you in. Also,

799
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 3: don't steal ants. I guess I don't know.

800
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Speaker 5: I just love how is one to know?

801
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 7: I mean, I feel like we've all about scale, we've

802
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 7: all accidentally stolen ants.

803
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 6: It must be about scale, right, Like it's at a

804
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 6: certain point you're like mining a resource and maybe you

805
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 6: have to report that to the proper wildlife authorities. Like

806
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 6: is it illegal for me to collect ants from my

807
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,800
Speaker 6: backyard and make myself a little ant farm situation?

808
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 3: It depends on what kind of ant, honestly, and where

809
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 3: you're dangered ants, right, Because there's a very good, fascinating,

810
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 3: I should say, if not very good argument about which

811
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 3: life worm on Earth is the most successful. And when

812
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 3: it comes to higher order multi cellular life forms, ants

813
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,399
Speaker 3: get a lot of a lot of credit for that

814
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 3: because of their adaptations. They do things without anthropomorphizing that

815
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,919
Speaker 3: could seem very human and not. We're not talking about

816
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 3: just the nice things. There are ants that enslave other creatures,

817
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 3: things like that, like they got the classic human. I'm

818
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:27,839
Speaker 3: bringing this up, Matt. Do you have any thoughts before

819
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 3: we move on this one.

820
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,959
Speaker 2: I didn't know that that amount of ants is worth

821
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 2: around seven dollars.

822
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,320
Speaker 3: And I think we've all accidentally smuggled some insects before,

823
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Speaker 3: not naming names, but you know, we might go on

824
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,320
Speaker 3: hikes and fine, we've accidentally smuggled some ticks.

825
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:47,720
Speaker 4: I smuggled a tick on my butt.

826
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Speaker 5: Basically, it's your story to tell.

827
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Speaker 3: Bro.

828
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:51,879
Speaker 4: I didn't know.

829
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 2: I was in the shower and he was like, hey,

830
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 2: I'm down here, man, what's going on?

831
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 4: And I was like, stop, dude, that out.

832
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:02,359
Speaker 3: That is a perfect tick act. By the way, Yeah, people.

833
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 4: Don't I don't know.

834
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 2: He was just doing his thing. But yeah, and now

835
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 2: I'm on antibiotics.

836
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 4: So thanks tick. Oh seriously, yes, just in.

837
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 5: Case, in case I don't want to get that lime disease.

838
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 3: Also, yeah, lime disease episode has been the works for

839
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 3: a few years here. But yeah, we're mentioning this because

840
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:25,760
Speaker 3: it's a funny story. I regret to inform friends and neighbors,

841
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 3: fellow conspiracy realists that these two young men did not,

842
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:32,720
Speaker 3: in fact have the ants in their pandemic, so missed

843
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 3: opportunity on that. We're going to take a sudden shift

844
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 3: in direction. We're going to stay with Kenya in a

845
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 3: few years back. You guys may remember in twenty twenty three,

846
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 3: we covered a story in our Strange News program about

847
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 3: a death cult in Kenya, mass suicide, Oregon theft. This

848
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 3: is one of those rare situations that made international news.

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Speaker 6: Remember talking about this. Possibly that's been a minute. I

850
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 6: do remember that the basics though.

851
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, more than two hundred people died at the time

852
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 3: of reporting, six hundred were reported missing. And now we

853
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 3: have another story coming to us via Reuters. Reuters has

854
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 3: reported that two bodies were recovered from a church in

855
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 3: Kenya and the discovery has not just the local population

856
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 3: but the authorities worried that there may be another kind

857
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:35,240
Speaker 3: of starvation or self harm cult in play. The bodies

858
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 3: were retrieved from the premises of Saint Joseph Missions of

859
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 3: Africa Church in Macgory County and this like just happened.

860
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:47,320
Speaker 3: We're recorded on April twenty third. This happened a couple

861
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 3: days ago. And you know we I always try to

862
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 3: keep the eye on these on the cult activities. In

863
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 3: addition to the two cadavers, they rescued almost sixty people

864
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 3: who were being held there against their will.

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Speaker 5: Okay, doesn't sound good.

866
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not good.

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Speaker 2: And apparently they went to the hospital right, or they

868
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 2: were sent to the hospital, but then they reacted differently.

869
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 3: Right when they were This is the part about what

870
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 3: the nature of consent, right, because, as you're saying, Matt,

871
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 3: when they rescued these fifty seven people and took them

872
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 3: to a nearby hospital for medical care. Many of them

873
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 3: refused treatment and instead began to sing religious songs. This

874
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 3: is creepy, yeah, yeah, but if people are adults, then

875
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 3: you know, they can do what they want, right as

876
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 3: long as they're not harming others, Oh for sure.

877
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 5: But I just mean it just seems a little bit like.

878
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 6: A spooky I don't know, like, were they doing this

879
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:55,720
Speaker 6: in protest like or is it this is seeming spontaneous,

880
00:49:55,760 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 6: like they're reacting to some unforeseen indoctrination or force or something.

881
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 5: I guess I'm just confused.

882
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, things are getting things are getting hairy there. And

883
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 3: this is a story that we need to keep an

884
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 3: eye on because these charismatic cult like institutions, right, they

885
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 3: can they can do serious harm to people, and you're

886
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 3: not going to be able to tell sometimes as an

887
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 3: investigator or as just you know, bystander walking by, unless

888
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 3: you're in the inner circle, and it can these conspiracies

889
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 3: can have real life consequences. Obviously, we're not here to

890
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 3: denigrate anybody's you know, personal beliefs, but if your institution

891
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 3: of belief is asking you to do things that cause

892
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 3: harm to yourself or others, it's time to take a

893
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 3: quick think. Maybe take a walk around the block, you

894
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 3: know what I mean, Get a case ida right, listen

895
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 3: to some jazz. I don't know. I don't know what

896
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 3: the answers are, but I wanted to bring this up

897
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:59,280
Speaker 3: because we have an upcoming episode, a continuing an installment,

898
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 3: and a continuing series on cults you've never heard of.

899
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 3: So this is a claring poll to all of our

900
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 3: fellow listeners to please let us know about some other

901
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 3: cults that you think the public should be aware of

902
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 3: before there's another Waco situation or another Jonestown, which unfortunately,

903
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 3: historically is always a non zero possibility.

904
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 6: Ben, I sent to you guys in our group text

905
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 6: another kind of alarming cult. I think maybe that was it.

906
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 6: It was one that I was like questioning whether or

907
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 6: not we had covered because it had some things in

908
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:34,720
Speaker 6: common with.

909
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 5: The Mother Love. I believe the one that there was.

910
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 6: A documentary made recently about. I'll have to put my

911
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 6: finger on what that was. To your point, though, Ben,

912
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 6: there's more than enough new entries for an updated episode coming.

913
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 3: Up right O. Yeah, agreed, And we actually didn't get

914
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 3: to the story of that cult whose name begins with

915
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 3: a Z, and we're short on time a little while back.

916
00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:01,399
Speaker 3: But while we have everybody I've got, I've got one

917
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 3: more thing that I think we do need to talk about.

918
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 3: We can save some of the rest of it for

919
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 3: a different program in the future. Guys, Mexican cartels, I'm

920
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,919
Speaker 3: just going to give you some keywords. Mexican cartels one,

921
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 3: casinos two, China three fentanyl four. I see, yeah, my

922
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 3: money's run into the laundry like there's something smelly on me.

923
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 3: Mexican cartels are using casinos to launder money made from fentanyl.

924
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 3: In the US, at least one point four billion US

925
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:42,280
Speaker 3: dollars linked to various cartels that are working in a

926
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:48,879
Speaker 3: Charlie Day level red string map of proxy companies with

927
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 3: with if not the knowing cooperation of Chinese regulatory bodies,

928
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:58,800
Speaker 3: at least with a wilful blind eye.

929
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 6: I mean money spends Jeeze.

930
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 2: Casinos a great place to launder money.

931
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 3: That's the old Vegas ad right.

932
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 5: Second to what happens in Vegas. Stays in Vegas.

933
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 3: Send your kids to the pool, launder the money. Circus circus,

934
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 3: circus circus.

935
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 5: What a weird place, What a weird what a weird place.

936
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 3: Apparently, the relationship between Mexican cartels and Chinese businesses involved

937
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 3: in the fentanyl supply chain goes way beyond just selling

938
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 3: the stuff that you can use to make fentanyl, you

939
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 3: know what I mean? Like, you can sell various metals,

940
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 3: right you can. Yeah, you could sell various metals which

941
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 3: could be a precursor to a firearm. You're not responsible

942
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 3: for what happens to that metal after you sell it, right,

943
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 3: If someone chooses to manufacture a gun, that's no longer

944
00:53:53,640 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 3: your remit. However, selling precursor chemicals and claiming well, I

945
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 3: didn't know, only goes so far.

946
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, you going, what else are they good for?

947
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:04,879
Speaker 1: Right?

948
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 5: I mean is that the issue?

949
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 3: Fent Ugh? What is it good for? Yet? We're what

950
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 3: we're finding is a couple of different things. I want

951
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 3: to shout out the Latin Times and the journalist Ector

952
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 3: Rios Morales, who had a great piece on this on

953
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 3: April twenty first, twenty twenty five. According to reports that

954
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 3: are coming from the US Department of the Treasury's Financial

955
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 3: Crimes Enforcement Network, Finn Sin, I wonder when those guys

956
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 3: are going to start getting layoffs. They looked at fentanyl

957
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:44,800
Speaker 3: related illicit transactions tied to the two largest partels in Mexico.

958
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:48,280
Speaker 3: And what they found was that between January and December

959
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:54,280
Speaker 3: of twenty twenty four, various financial institutions filed well over

960
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 3: twelve hundred suspicious activity reports related to that point, the

961
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 3: purchase of precursor chemicals, the trafficking of fentanyl, and of

962
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 3: course money laundry. It goes so deep. It's not just like, Okay,

963
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 3: I'm bringing this up because we have a lot of

964
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 3: friends and family who are more familiar with casinos than

965
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 3: the four of us here. We actually did it. I

966
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 3: think you and I hung out at a casino for

967
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,720
Speaker 3: your very first time a few years back. Is that correct?

968
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 8: Yeah, you gave me like ten dollars and a clearing machine.

969
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 8: I hit the wrong button and I didn't get anything.

970
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,760
Speaker 8: It was a big bang theory machine.

971
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 3: So we yeah, yeah, we called it Goodbye money. I

972
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 3: think that's how you approach vegas. But this is for

973
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 3: these cartels and people participate in this global successful criminal conspiracy.

974
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 3: It's not goodbye money. It's hell o money, you know

975
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 3: what I mean. And my question for you guys, I

976
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 3: don't want amount of like My question for you guys

977
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:06,799
Speaker 3: is how do you launder money in a casino? Do

978
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 3: you like, take dirty money and get a bunch of

979
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 3: chips and then take those chips back and get cash

980
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:14,879
Speaker 3: for the chips? Is that it?

981
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:15,399
Speaker 5: I guess.

982
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 6: I mean just the fact that it is such a

983
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:20,399
Speaker 6: cash business and there's so few of those that are

984
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 6: by their very nature that thing that aren't going to

985
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 6: be looked at askance, that it totally makes sense that

986
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 6: this would be a way of going about that.

987
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 5: But I don't know what the actual mechanism would be.

988
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 3: Okay, Matt, you're shaking your head no as well, by okay,

989
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:36,360
Speaker 3: what if we like, is there there must be? Is

990
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 3: there a financial threshold such that pass that amount of money?

991
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 3: If you try to get chips or cash in chips,

992
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 3: you have to fill out like a lot of heavy paperwork.

993
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 3: I know you have to fill out some stuff.

994
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 6: Certainly for gambling winnings they are they do have to

995
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 6: be reported to the IRS.

996
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 5: But I don't know what threshold.

997
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 7: To yeah still works at the I R S Yeah,

998
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 7: exactly exactly in those poor guys. Look, this feels like

999
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 7: a further investigation ahead. I pause it to all of

1000
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 7: us together tonight that it seems increasingly implausible and indeed

1001
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:24,439
Speaker 7: naive to argue that US authorities are not aware of this.

1002
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 7: Maybe factions are complicit in this. I don't know what

1003
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 7: do you guys think.

1004
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 3: Before I start well pulling an Oprah and be like

1005
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 3: you're a corrupt, you're corrupt, and you're a corrupt.

1006
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 6: I will say that I do know that you know, gambling,

1007
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 6: gaming licensing is a big deal, and that proprietors of

1008
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 6: casinos are always very concerned with losing their gaming licenses,

1009
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 6: and so they do, I believe, to the best of

1010
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:51,439
Speaker 6: my understanding, go to great lengths to make sure they're

1011
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 6: in compliance. So this certainly wouldn't be something that would

1012
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 6: be done willy nilly or without an appropriate amount of

1013
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 6: kind of smoke screen, you know, because I think it

1014
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 6: would be pretty easy, to your point bent for Uncle

1015
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 6: Sam to to find out and then you know act.

1016
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 2: To me, casinos are just a weird thing to be okay.

1017
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 2: I don't understand why it's okay.

1018
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 3: How is that a thing other than.

1019
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 2: There are people who agree that they're okay that get paid.

1020
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 2: You pay somebody to say yes, it's okay. Then they

1021
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 2: make a bunch of money and you get some of

1022
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 2: that money.

1023
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 6: And therein lies the issue with the licensing where it's

1024
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 6: like it's only okay up to if these conditions are met.

1025
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 6: And it's the same reason that like when you have

1026
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 6: advertising for any kind of gambling, you have to be

1027
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 6: very clear and expressly state the resources for folks to

1028
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 6: find help if they have gambling problems.

1029
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 3: Well to MAT's earlier point there too, it's a great

1030
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 3: observation that there aren't any I am not aware of

1031
00:58:55,480 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 3: any like grassroots nonprofit pro casino organization. Like I've never

1032
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 3: seen an interview with someone on the news saying I

1033
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,919
Speaker 3: don't make any money off of this. I just think

1034
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 3: it's important for people to have a hot hand blackjack.

1035
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 3: That's what means, you know, step beside human trafficking. I

1036
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 3: chose my thing that I am going to fight for.

1037
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 3: You're right, you know, money is money is a superpower.

1038
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 3: It's a physical or conceptual representation of labor over time. Right. Therefore,

1039
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 3: money as power can be corrupting. It does make institutions

1040
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 3: and individuals corruptible. So it feels like people are aware

1041
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 3: of part of the connection with Cartel's Chinese companies, proxy

1042
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 3: entities and casinos laundering money, but it also feels like

1043
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 3: a lot of powerful people don't want those links to

1044
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 3: be in mistigated in depth understandably, So so what do

1045
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 3: we think, guys? We'll get to one piece of good

1046
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 3: news before we wrap up. There's a lot we didn't

1047
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 3: get to. But overall, does this feel this fentanyl casino

1048
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 3: money laundering thing? Does this feel like an episode in

1049
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 3: the future.

1050
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 2: Absolutely, let's break it down.

1051
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's get into it. Yeah, let's see if we

1052
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 3: can make it back to Vegas. Right.

1053
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 7: Oh, I think we all have different personas in Vegas,

1054
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 7: so we should be fine. It's not longe as that

1055
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 7: can be the bag man, sir, We've saved the seat

1056
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 7: for you.

1057
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 4: I got it. I got a little lost.

1058
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 2: I just want to go to Vallejo now and find

1059
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 2: these dang Zizians.

1060
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 3: The Zizzy and cult. Yes, that's what we didn't get

1061
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 3: to last time.

1062
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 5: Its strange news.

1063
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 3: It's a it's a disturbing story. Tune in for colts

1064
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 3: you've never heard of. Part three will end on some

1065
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:54,960
Speaker 3: good news, I think, I hope.

1066
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 8: Uh.

1067
01:00:56,400 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 3: Studies show that more US residents are using psilocybin than

1068
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 3: ever before. The rates are shooting up due to some

1069
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 3: decriminalization acts right, which also makes people less hesitant to

1070
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 3: self report or to you know, tell the truth on

1071
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 3: a survey or something. There's a great study I found

1072
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 3: out about it from Science Daily, but it was originally

1073
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 3: published in the Annals of Internal Medicine just a few

1074
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 3: days ago, on this Monday past. And what they found

1075
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 3: is that people who are experiencing mental health conditions appear

1076
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:42,160
Speaker 3: to be finding some sort of mitigation or comfort in

1077
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 3: the use of psilocybin aka magic mushrooms, probably the most

1078
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 3: common version of that.

1079
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 6: Here in the US, absolutely, and there's it's becoming more

1080
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 6: and more prevalent, and I think for a good reason

1081
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 6: than when used appropriately under the supervision of like the

1082
01:01:57,560 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 6: right kind of therapist.

1083
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 5: I have great results.

1084
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 6: From folks that I've spoken to that have participated in

1085
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 6: that kind of stuff.

1086
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 3: And with that, we would love to hear from you,

1087
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 3: fellow conspiracy realist, to the degree that you are comfortable,

1088
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 3: tell us your experiences with hallucinogenic substances, tell us your

1089
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 3: hot take for or against it. Let us know if

1090
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 3: you have experience working with the federal government, let us

1091
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 3: know what you're going through. We've had a lot of

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