1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: Welcome everybody to another episode of Bachelor Happy Hour. We 2 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: got a good one coming up for you. We probably 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: should have started recording before we actually started, but Crystal 4 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: is with me again as a colt. Let's love having 5 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,639 Speaker 1: you here, Crystal girl up being here, and it's great 6 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: because Crystal's here, but also because we've got none other 7 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 1: in the hot seat. Then I don't know if I 8 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: should call him an og. I don't know if I 9 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: should call him my favorite x am I giving hints. 10 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: Do we know who it is? I think we get 11 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 1: Nick vile. Nick, well, not Dean your favorite X No, 12 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 1: Dean's not my favorite. X I've been recently told that 13 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: Dean unfollowed me. I guess I was a little too. 14 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 1: I don't pay attention to that kind of stuff. It's 15 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: just been brought to my attention. Wait, why is why 16 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: why you hate everyone? Or that's what they say? Isn't 17 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: it what they say? What do they say? But I 18 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: want to know? Why is Nick your favorite? X? Oh? Nick? 19 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: Nick and I just had that's a great question. Nick 20 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: and I have this mutual respect for one another. I 21 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: think from the beginning we hit it off and we 22 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: knew we would be friends. We knew we would. We 23 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: knew probably that it wasn't going to be forever, we 24 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 1: weren't gonna get married, But I knew this news to me, 25 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: I didn't know. But from the moment I met Nick, 26 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: I knew that we were going to be really cool. 27 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: And we've maintained a level of respect and friendship since 28 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 1: we've been off the show, which I don't think a 29 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: lot of people like I've been on Nick season. I 30 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: don't think a lot of people say that about someone 31 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: they've been on a season with. You know why? And 32 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: to get more specific, is that we are like minds 33 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: in that way. Is that, Um, Rachel and I are 34 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: opinionated and we give our thoughts. I don't think and 35 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people do in this world 36 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: and especially Ambaschel nation, is that people equate criticism and 37 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: giving an opinion is whether you like me or don't 38 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: like me. Um, And yeah, so we're just getting it. 39 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: Somebody turned Nick's mike up, and so yeah, I mean, 40 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: I think I think Rachel respects thoughts and opinions. He's 41 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: willing to give hers. I don't think Rachel is easily 42 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: offended if someone criticizes her, And I think sometimes people 43 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 1: make the mistake of when people share opinions, to be 44 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: offended and then be like, oh my god, I don't 45 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: like this person because they have an opinion. And I 46 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: think we appreciate that about each other. And I think Crystal, 47 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: you're kind of like that too, because you got a 48 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: lot of criticism when you are on our season and 49 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: you don't that has not held you back by any means, 50 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: Like you just keep rolling with it. I think what 51 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 1: you realize is that when you are in the public eye, 52 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: there's opportunity for a lot of voice people to hear 53 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 1: you and for you to have a voice. And I 54 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: remember getting this piece of advice when I was twenty 55 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: four years old, and they go, well, if people are hating, 56 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: at least they know who you are. Like, you're doing 57 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: something right, people, you are doing something right. And I 58 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 1: remember hearing that. I was like, you know what, You're right. 59 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: It's because I'm like busting my ass, because I'm like, 60 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: I'm pushing forward, because I'm ambitious, and because I have 61 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: something to say, and if people want to hear, they 62 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: can hear. And if people want to chirp, then at 63 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: least they're listening to what I'm saying, can you say 64 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: that in the voice that you used on our season? 65 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 1: Just really quickly. It's so hard for me. Let me 66 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: go coach like twelve thousand hours, I mean, like a 67 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: little more sexy show how it's done, Crystal. Oh my god, 68 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: I don't even know if I could. Um, that's very 69 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: soft back, you guys. I love how everyone pretends they 70 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: don't listen to all these Aboutler podcasts and they all 71 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: listen to about your podcasts and then they and then 72 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: they start talking shit and I'm like, oh, someone said 73 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: doesn't like me. And to truth is everyone just wants 74 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: to be liked by everyone else. They do, they do, 75 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: They totally do. All you have to do is compliment 76 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: someone and those feel like I love them. But if 77 00:03:57,760 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: they like they're like, well I didn't like her hair 78 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: in that episode, bitch. You know, well it's so true. 79 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: You know. I've even talked with some of the Castle 80 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: past on Colton season of the Bachelor, and it's you know, 81 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: I was talking with like Kaylin and Cassie recently and 82 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: we were just like, you know, like, when you are 83 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: on a show, granted it is a reality TV show, 84 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: and granted is who you are, Like that is your 85 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: persona to in essence, right you are? You are a 86 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 1: character and people have opinions about that, and you need 87 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 1: to find where you can separate yourself and not take 88 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: it so personally and honestly, that's really how I was 89 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: able to come out of The Bachelor and have such 90 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: success in Paradise because I saw it like, okay, like 91 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: where if there's a lot of opinions about the same thing, 92 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: clearly I should look at that and listen to that 93 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: constructive criticism and apply it and grow. But you know, 94 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 1: it's when you're in the public eye, like you just 95 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: have to be open and know that people are going 96 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: to be have opinions about every single thing. That's not 97 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: really just a public eye. I mean now or media. 98 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: We all have access to people's opinions who we shouldn't have. 99 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: But I would say that social media is the public eye. 100 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: Won't see that. I don't think so. And I think 101 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 1: my mom has three hundred followers. You know, actually my 102 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: mom has more than three hundred followers, and that's three 103 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: hundred people's opinions that she has no business hearing. But 104 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: I think that that's what the problem is is that 105 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 1: people think that the world is just social media, and 106 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 1: people start valuing their worth and likes and follows, and 107 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 1: for some people it's detrimental. For some people it gives 108 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: them a big head. But that's not necessarily the public opinion, 109 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,119 Speaker 1: because it depends who's following you. It depends who's liking 110 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: your stuff. And I think that that's the problem in 111 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: a lot of it, is that people value their worth 112 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: based on social media. Well, I think it goes even 113 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 1: deeper than that. I think one of the biggest needs 114 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 1: that people experiences feeling worthy, and that's from other people's 115 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 1: opinions of them, and people feeling validated based on what 116 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 1: people say and basing their self worth on the opinions 117 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 1: of others. And I know, I'm sure having all of 118 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 1: us gone through this process of being on TV, some 119 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: more than others. But uh, Nick, but I mean, I mean, really, 120 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 1: when you come out of it, you're just like you 121 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:09,679 Speaker 1: need to, you know, be true to your own flag 122 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 1: and wave that high and be proud of it. No, 123 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 1: I agree with you. So before we get into the meet, 124 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: even though we really already started, I feel like there's 125 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: a civil war brewing amongst Bachelor Nation cast. You get like, 126 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: I just feel like, here's the thing when these civil 127 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 1: war because I know which side I'm on. Here's the thing, 128 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: here's the thing, here's the thing the North. Uh like 129 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: social and it's all social Media's fault, um like with 130 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: like you're like in the middle of it. When when 131 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: I like on Caitlin's season was kind of the beginning 132 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: with them in social media heightened the JoJo's season, and 133 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 1: now it's like we're full blown to social media. And 134 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: then it's also gotten younger and then there's like, um 135 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: like yeah, other people like the JoJo's and Caitlin's and 136 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: Tanner and Jade and me and like you're kind of 137 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 1: in that, and then you have like it's like Hannah 138 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 1: and Colton started this new wave of cast members and 139 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: there's just there's this constant like it's high school and 140 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: it's like the Sharks and the Jets, just like it's 141 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,239 Speaker 1: an old reference from the West Side story and everyone's 142 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: just like everyone's pretending to be friends. Everyone's just going 143 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: after the same fat fit, fun deals and and everyone's 144 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: just like jocking for position and everyone's just kind of 145 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: talking shit. It's kind of fun and there's just gonna 146 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: be this big rivalry it's like it's like the Marvel 147 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: Civil War movie, like everyone's kind of friends, like ray 148 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: all kind of like each other. I wish around puppets here, Like, oh, 149 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: so that was what I was going to ask you, 150 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: because it does seem like things are changing in the 151 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: Boucher franchise, some may say for good and some may 152 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: safe for bad, and you seem to thoroughly enjoy the 153 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: way things are moving, and you also are just adapt 154 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: at the time. Well, well, I was going to ask 155 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: you that you also are I guess from a different time, 156 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: but at the same time, you seem to really late 157 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: to or be friendly with the newer cast of Bats. Yeah, 158 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: I'm not. Again, I like to adapt. I mean again, 159 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: as we're talking about four or five years and I 160 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: kind of a joke, but like again, like I used 161 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: that Marvel Civil War movie Captain America movie, because like, 162 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: we are all friends, we all have common experiences. But 163 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: there it's equate Betel, it's very high schoolish and it 164 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: can get really petty and things like that. We all 165 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: have been guilty of at times maybe being petty and 166 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: kind of responding to our own securities of criticism, et cetera. 167 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 1: Et cetera. Um, and yeah, and so it is kind 168 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: of kind of like that some some fan did that, 169 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 1: like equated us to all Marvel character. It was this 170 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: kind of fun which movie thinking of that? Um? I 171 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: mean I was, I was Iron Man? Who was I? 172 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 1: I didn't make the cut because I was, like, you know, 173 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,959 Speaker 1: I'm slightly senior and snarky and I think cerebrally and 174 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:58,439 Speaker 1: Ben was Captain America. You were I don't know who 175 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: are you? Who? Who could Phoenix dark Phoenix? Well, she's 176 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: an X men starting Marval world, but not the white 177 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: hair in the Lightning. I want to be I don't 178 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 1: want to be. I don't want to be that person. So, Nick, 179 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: where do you see yourself? Um? In this civil war 180 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: that you speak of, but being someone who's been in 181 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: half a decade with a bachelor franchise and now you're 182 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: seeing this wave of social media and seeing the power 183 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: of influencers now and we look at how young the 184 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: contestants are getting and the rise of the influencers. You 185 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: guys need to I'm have a producer sitting in this room, 186 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: and I know it's not necessarily her call at her fault, 187 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: but you guys need to step it up at the 188 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: age a little bit. It's gonna literally gonna getting a 189 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 1: little young. But I mean, listen, I actually I think 190 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: I think it was I think it was good that 191 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: they did that. I think it was interesting. It makes 192 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: it for great TV. I think they should skew a 193 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: little bit older the next few seasons. I think if 194 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: they stay this young, I think it loses a little 195 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: bit of a credibility. I don't think it's an accident 196 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 1: that you haven't had engagements the past two seasons. I 197 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: think it's harder to relate to people. I mean, society 198 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: in general is getting Millennials are getting married married later 199 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: in life relative to previous generations. And then you have 200 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 1: the show where you're getting younger and younger, and then 201 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: you're having people like getting engaged and married and so 202 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: that that doesn't necessarily shive. So two seasons have hurt 203 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: the franchise. No, I think it's helped the frenchise. I 204 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: think it's really good. I think they were incredible seasons. 205 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: I just think if you keep doing that, it will 206 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: it will lose a little bit of a I think 207 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: because the little a little bit of it, because I 208 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,079 Speaker 1: think the reason why the show has been so successful 209 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: for so long. It's because of love, and I think 210 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: love wins and so to speak, and like people's want 211 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: to belief in the traditional things about dating and love 212 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: and engagement, and I think you need that to keep 213 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: the show going. And then but this past ye season 214 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 1: has been really the great seasons. It's been a lot 215 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: of fun, they've been entertaining. I'd like to see them 216 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: get a little bit older, a little older. So what 217 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: do you think makes a good lead in a bachelor 218 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: or a bachelorette? Two very different seasons. I think that 219 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: they're very different. Uh, what makes a good bat shorette? 220 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: I think a good bat charrette U is very like 221 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:14,959 Speaker 1: which Rachel and Hannah and someone who can speak up 222 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: and um, we love our bat shirts very differently than 223 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,719 Speaker 1: we love our bachelor's. Y imagine if like, for why 224 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 1: did we love Hannah right? Because she would stand up 225 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: for herself and she would speak back and she would 226 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: call these guys for some of the bullshit they did. 227 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: And a bachelor did that, he would be an asshole. 228 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: You can't do that, you can't be like, what the 229 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: fuck are you guys doing? Like this is bullshit? Like 230 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: why are you know like it's different, spoke out well. 231 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: I thought you were great. I think Hannah deserved the 232 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 1: praise that she got. I think sometimes you were criticized 233 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:52,719 Speaker 1: for doing the same thing. Thank you, and if I were. 234 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: You asked me a question earlier about like being friends 235 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 1: with the newer generations. Yeah, I don't. I think there's 236 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 1: a lot of great people that they've cast in the news. 237 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: I always am love authenticity. My favorite people on the 238 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 1: franchise are the people who I in person and when 239 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 1: watching on TV, I feel like that's just who they are. 240 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: They're not I want to be liked. I liked to 241 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: be I liked being liked better than I liked being 242 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:21,079 Speaker 1: criticized as on the show. But you can just tell 243 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:22,719 Speaker 1: who's kind of full of shit, and you can kind 244 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: of tell who people pretend to be a certain person 245 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: who you know, and it's like when you know, I 246 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: won't care when I When I had you in my 247 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: podcast and we were talking about the Fantasist sweets, and 248 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: I kind of mentioned that Raven might have totally talked 249 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: shit about Vanessa for like a good thirty minutes in 250 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: fantasy set, and then Raven chimed in on my on 251 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: my Instagram and was like, oh my god, I would 252 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: never talk shit about someone. And I'm like, all right, 253 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: time out. First of all, I thought that was great 254 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: about you. I quite like Raven. It's not about me 255 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: criticizing Raven because I don't like her. I think she's great. 256 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: I think she's great in person. I think sometimes the 257 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 1: character she portrays herself to be on the TV show 258 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 1: on Instagram is totally full of shit and lying in bullshit. 259 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: And I think she talked shit about people all the time, 260 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: and I think that's totally fine. And I don't like 261 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,079 Speaker 1: how sometimes people pretend to not be a certain way. 262 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: I don't like pretending either. And I know and I yes, 263 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: we did talk about that, and I know you want 264 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 1: to have her on the podcast, and I actually encourage you. 265 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 1: I was like, have her on have a discussion so 266 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: you guys can hash it out, because what I'm not 267 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: a fan of hashing things out in the comment section 268 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:25,839 Speaker 1: of a social media post. I believe that you should 269 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: have conversations about it. Well, yeah, face to face, because 270 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 1: things can be just so misconstrued via emojis words that too. 271 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: I just think again back to you know, I think, 272 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: especially in this we're even fans like I can say 273 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 1: what I just said about Raven right, and a lot 274 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 1: of people, even Raven might listen to be like, oh 275 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: my god, Nick hates me, or why you mean to 276 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: Raven again? I think it. Raven is great. I quite 277 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 1: liked her for the person I got to know, and 278 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 1: that person was someone who was snarky and intelligent and 279 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: had a bit of a dark side to her, and 280 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: you know, she could be manipulative and all those things, 281 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 1: and the whole picture of Raven that was charming, you know, 282 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: but the Ravens sometimes people got to see I don't 283 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 1: think it is Raven, and you know, don't go on 284 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 1: my Instagram page and claim to be that person. What 285 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: do you think about I'm just trying to rile up Rachel, good, 286 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: good luck. I just wanted to take a moment for 287 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: the listeners to just feel the energy right now at 288 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: the top of the list of wanting to know what's up? No, 289 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: I know I want hiding it. Most people do. Um, 290 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: I guess I want to ask you about there seems 291 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: to be and you said you you titled it this 292 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: civil war that's brewing, and it just seems to keep 293 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: going and there just seems to be so much more 294 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: drama than usual that's happening outside of the show than 295 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: is happening on the show. Do you think that that's 296 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: purposeful that people are trying to do it to quote 297 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: unquote stay relevant or do you think that it's real beef? 298 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: Like what? Like? What's your take of it? I don't 299 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: think because I think it's really I don't think it's 300 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: real beef at all. Again, I think I think truly 301 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: everyone just wants to be liked. I think it all 302 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: comes from a place to insecurity, and I don't know 303 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: if it's an attempt at relevancy, but I think it's 304 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: a lot of people are diving into a world that 305 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: they don't understand. And I think for like me and 306 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: the Ashi and Caitlin's and you a little bit of 307 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: the world because you're kind of in between. We got 308 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: to learn on the fly in terms of like having 309 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: this opportunity to be on this show and having social 310 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: media come out and then like trying to figure out 311 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: what is this opportunity that we have in front of us, 312 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: And then a lot of people made mistakes in terms 313 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: of thinking they were too good for it or too 314 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: popular or too great or they were above certain things, 315 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: and those people always kind of burn out and then 316 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: now you have this again. We talked about it when 317 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: you're on my show about this playbook. Yeah, of like 318 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: you know what it is, this like you go on 319 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: this show now and everyone like, listen. The truth is, 320 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: everyone who goes on the show now is kind of 321 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: full of shit. You know you think they listen? They do, 322 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: like and in fairness to them, in what way though, 323 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: because because everyone who goes on the show knows that 324 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: if you are top four, top six, you're gonna have 325 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: a following. And like when I went on the show, 326 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: it's so funny now is that like seven years ago, 327 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: this whole notion when the show would be like are 328 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: you here for the right reasons? Are you here for 329 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: the right reasons? Are you here for right reasons? Truth is, 330 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: everyone kind of was and every they were all there 331 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: because they got a call and it was like they're family, 332 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: like this would be a neat experience and you're like, well, 333 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: I guess I'll just go and I'll see what happens. 334 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: And you didn't really know much more than that, right, 335 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: and now you go and it's just like, well, if 336 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: I go, I'm gonna have all these followers. I'm gonna 337 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: be able to do all this, and like you see 338 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: some of us actually doing something with this opportunity, and 339 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: they try to replicate that, and it's really hard to 340 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: be not just disingenuous. Okay, so we got a season 341 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: is taping right now. Got a Bachelor's season. Peter our 342 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: new batchelor. How do you feel? I like Peter. I 343 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: actually ran into Peter. I like Peter a lot too. 344 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: I ran into Peter right before he was about to 345 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 1: go into hiding and start filming the show, and I 346 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 1: told him, listen, it is nothing against you, and I 347 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 1: explained to him why I was such a proponent for Mike, 348 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: and I really have no problems. I actually think Peter 349 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: is going to be good for the franchise. I think 350 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: Peter will fall in love. I think Peter will get engaged. 351 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 1: He seems like such a lover. He wears his heart 352 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: on his sleeve, and we need that type of bachelor 353 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 1: right now. So maybe Peter can give something that Mike 354 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 1: couldn't give. Who knows, what do you think couldn't give? No, 355 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean I wanted Mike. I'm just 356 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: saying I wasn't in the decision room to pick Peter. 357 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: So I'm saying maybe I want to say that when 358 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: I was watching Paradise because as we know, like Nick, 359 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,479 Speaker 1: when you became the Bachelor, it was your time on 360 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: Paradise that got you that opportunity, you know, for us 361 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: to see a different side of you. And I think 362 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: for Mike, I think there was an opportunity for him, 363 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: and that was when Hannah came down to the beach 364 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,439 Speaker 1: of Paradise and there was just like we saw it 365 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: with Colton and Beecca um season five. When I was there, 366 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 1: I had this huge reaction to Becca coming down and 367 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 1: it was it was, it was a whole episode, and 368 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: I think that Mike had the opportunity to show a 369 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: different side of him with Yeah, Becca Cooufrien, Mike had opportunity. 370 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: I'm talking about season five. Colton was down in Paradise 371 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: of Tia and Becca Coufrian came down and it evoked 372 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 1: like he saw a ghost and was heartbroken all the past. 373 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 1: Feel second, whether whether you feel it was true or not, no, 374 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: firsthand that Colton how it played out on TV he 375 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:41,439 Speaker 1: became the Bachelor. I'm just I'm saying there was well 376 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: there's a lot of multidimensional, you know, opportunities that Colton 377 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:48,239 Speaker 1: brought to the table. Well, and I think I I 378 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: think absolutely, but I think that Mike had opportunity and 379 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: we didn't see a lot of that that we didn't 380 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: see a lot of that side. I heard I agree 381 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 1: with you and Chris. I heard you and Chris say 382 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: that before UM on an interview that Mike should have 383 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: had a better reaction when Hannah came down, and the 384 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 1: comparison was to Colton. Well, the reason I didn't agree 385 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: with that is because I share the same sentiment as 386 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: Nick that I did not believe that reaction because when 387 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: Tea went home, there was not like I didn't see 388 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:17,719 Speaker 1: a tear shed. I mean, it's just it was just 389 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: very seemed to be very um it performance, you know 390 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 1: for it just it just didn't so genuine with Mike. 391 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, maybe you didn't get what you wanted, 392 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 1: but maybe that was his actual genuine reaction when it 393 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: came to Hannah. He had moved on. I don't think 394 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: he needed to see tears for him to be a 395 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: good back. That was just an opportunity where there could 396 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: have been a reaction. But I think ultimately what it 397 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 1: was with Mike, and I say it in the essence 398 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: of we only really saw a happy side of him. 399 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 1: We didn't really get to see some deeper, some deeper layers. 400 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 1: So there's absolutely and as a bachelor is a good bachelor. 401 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: You just can't be happy and optimistic all the time. 402 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:57,479 Speaker 1: And even friends that are like that, You're just like, 403 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: come on, just have like have a bad day, like 404 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: show me a different side of you, show me like 405 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: a deep dark side of you with me, though you 406 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: didn't see me have a dark side on I said, 407 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: you didn't see it. I think I think typically they 408 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 1: don't want there it's interesting enough. I don't think you 409 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: want your bachelor to have a dark side. You want 410 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 1: your bachelor to be Captain America. I think I was 411 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: an outlier in that regard. I do think you want 412 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: your bachelorette to have saved, to not to be saved, 413 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: but also have that kind of defiant attitude a little bit, 414 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,439 Speaker 1: I do. I mean, I think again, you were unfairly judged. 415 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 1: I don't think before I don't think Jojo had a 416 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: defiant attitude. Yeah, I don't. I don't Jojo showed her 417 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 1: strength at time but like Caitlin and Andy and all like. 418 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: But but I mean, defiance is different than I'm just saying. 419 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: Typically you want your bachelor to be just grateful and 420 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,120 Speaker 1: humbled to be there. In Captain America, You're right right, 421 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: and the women are supposed to be in a position 422 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: even though they're the lead of the show, they are 423 00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: set up in a position to be safe, sure, but 424 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 1: also they want to they want to be able to 425 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 1: show strength. Yeah, I think it's moving towards that. Especially 426 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 1: look at your past bachelorets. I don't know how many 427 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: of them were just demure and just kind of grateful 428 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 1: to be there. No. Yeah, I mean they may not 429 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 1: be as strong as you, Rachel, but like like coming 430 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: over here, listen, you weren't appreciated the way that you 431 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: should be. And I would, I would. I would have 432 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: some baggage too. I have my own baggage baggage. I 433 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 1: want to ask you, Nick, did you have any do 434 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: you have any regrets from your experience in time with 435 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: the Bachelor franchise? No, overall, I'm in my biggest regret. Um, 436 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,959 Speaker 1: and I kind of joke but also playful is that 437 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: when it came on the show, Um, I'm I'm a 438 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,439 Speaker 1: team player. It is a TV show. I want a 439 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: good TV show. I wanted to find love. That was 440 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: my most important thing when I was asked me the Bachelor. 441 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: I was the only thing I cared about were the 442 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: women in terms of when I was talking about producers, like, 443 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: I just want to I want this to work. I 444 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: really don't care about the money or whatever I wanted. 445 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: I wanted to meet someone. Um And I was also 446 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 1: like a team player, like the karn Bounty Castle House. 447 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 1: I wish I would have been. I really hated that 448 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: moment and I was mad, and I was I was, 449 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: and I reluctantly went along with it and I just 450 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: kind of did it. And I just think that made 451 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 1: me look kind of douchey and kind of I don't 452 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 1: think so. I was like the whip cream with Karin. 453 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: I just was like I just kind of went along 454 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:24,199 Speaker 1: with all that because I don't want to make her 455 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: feel right, you know. And I just again keep in mind, 456 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: I was the guy who was like, you know, Liz 457 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: comes out of a limo, like we had sex at 458 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 1: you know, on Annie, I was too much about sex 459 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: was attached to me, and you know, like of course 460 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: Nickola is gonna whipp liquid cream. You know, Nick's bountying 461 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,360 Speaker 1: a bouncy castle with the child of the cast. It's 462 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: just like, I just don't think that didn't me any favors. 463 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: I thought that was a big deal, more on her 464 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: than it did on YouTube. Yeah, and I would agree, 465 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: I really. I mean, I'm sure you got some criticism 466 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: and you probably see more of what you got than 467 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: Crystal and I saw, but at this, just to be honest, 468 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: I really didn't think that that reflected on you. Yeah, 469 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 1: I keep in mind, I mean that's not a I 470 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 1: don't have a lot of overall regrets, but if I 471 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: were to pick one, that would would be it. But 472 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: I do think the Bachelor and the Bachelor. Bacher and 473 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: the Bachelor both similarly, are always judged for their perceived 474 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 1: choices before they bring along. Yes, and that's sometimes, you 475 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: know it, sometimes we take a bullet. I actually think 476 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 1: that's the one criticism that I did not get. I 477 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: don't think I got a lot of flak about who 478 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: I brought along. I think people understood I'm saying my 479 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 1: ultimate decision decision. Yes, But as far as like why 480 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: is this person still here? That's the one thing that 481 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: I don't think people really let's really put on me. 482 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 1: But I do want to ask you something you said 483 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 1: about the new cast members coming on and how people 484 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 1: kind of know there's this playbook and you make it 485 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: to you make it, you know, top four whatever, you're 486 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: going to have a certain following, even really before that, 487 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: you're going to have a following. So when it comes 488 00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: to Peter's girls, first of all, do you, I'm Peter, 489 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: do you look at sports? I have no ideas. Okay, 490 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 1: see I don't. I don't like to look at that 491 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,199 Speaker 1: kind of stuff either. It's almost inevitable these days. But 492 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 1: have you Rachel, No, No, I have. I truly have it. 493 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 1: Unfortunately because of who you follow sometimes into it. So 494 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: I know certain things, but I don't know who's left. 495 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: I don't know how far, and I really try not 496 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: to fall pay attention to that. To your point, by 497 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: the by the time it's like by the time the 498 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,239 Speaker 1: finale aired, it's impossible for some of us not to 499 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 1: like find out. Yeah, yeah, but I have no idea 500 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,400 Speaker 1: what's going on. I do say I feel I feel 501 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 1: sorry for Peter. Why I think it? I think I 502 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: feel sorry for every lead going forward. Because of the 503 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 1: perceived playbook, because every lead and they they make this 504 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: part of the show too, Like, are you guys here 505 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: for the right reasons? I think again, now more than 506 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: ever that question is more valid, I think now more 507 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: than ever. Especially Peter's what twenty six, twenty seven, so 508 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 1: he's twenty eight and he has a career. Y. I 509 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: don't know how old these women are, but the younger 510 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: they we are, the more like I would be, like, 511 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,640 Speaker 1: of course you're not ready, you know, like you're twenty two. 512 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: I would want in some more Instagram followers and a 513 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 1: bunch of teeth waiting ads too. Okay, but to play 514 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 1: Devil's advocate, can somebody come on and say, you know what, like, 515 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just trying to escape, I'm just trying to, 516 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: you know, grow my social media presence. But then they 517 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,199 Speaker 1: start dating Peter and they're like, you know what, I 518 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 1: actually like it. You mean, like that's exactly what happened 519 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: with Jad. I think always was coming just for music. 520 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: It could totally work. I'm just saying for Peter, I 521 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: feel sorry for him because it's impossible, and I'm not 522 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: saying Peter could easily fall in love Peter it can 523 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,880 Speaker 1: be an amazing woman and it could be the most 524 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: successful batch. I'm not saying, but if I'm Peter, that 525 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: fear is more valid to have. It's actually real. It's 526 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: actually like, you know, it's like, man, you guys really 527 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: want to fall of ship. Many advice for Peter I 528 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 1: mean run noah, I mean it all depends on he's 529 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: filming now. I don't know, like I've like I don't 530 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 1: I haven't really studied the women on a season yet 531 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: or like they're they're bios or things like that. I 532 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: hope for Peter, sure, um a woman he's really into. Yeah, 533 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 1: and it is really unknown, and that's that's the hope, 534 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 1: because it is a crapshoot. And the advice for Peter is, 535 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,120 Speaker 1: you know, like, hopefully you're lucky enough to meet her 536 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: and protect that relationship. Is Peter too much like Ben Higgins? No, 537 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: I think that's the perception, and I think it's plays 538 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: I spent time with. I bet Peter's more like me. 539 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: Oh too, No, I just mean like again, it won't 540 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: be showed that way, and Peter had more of a 541 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 1: Ben Higgins edit and I and I don't know Peter, uh, 542 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: Like I spent a little time with Peter, but less 543 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: we know he fucks in Windmills. Here's the thing I've 544 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: said this. It was on our our our dear friends, 545 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: the Toasters, their their their batsurycap is that on my season, uh, 546 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 1: Liz showed up and list shot up and everyone and 547 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: then and listen, the producers obviously knew that I had 548 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 1: sex with Liz at Jaden Tanner's wedding. And no other 549 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 1: season would they have brought Liz on, especially, I mean 550 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: they certainly not Ben Higgins season. I mean Ben Higgins. 551 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: It's like he this is our we found Captain America 552 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: by the way, Ben's Captain America on the Marvel so um, 553 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,400 Speaker 1: and so like, listen, we all assumed that Ben wasn't 554 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: a virgin because he didn't proclaim he was. But like, 555 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: we don't talk about it, you know. So it's like 556 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 1: every season, you know how many seasons we had, and 557 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 1: no one has sex, right, you don't talk about it. 558 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: And so like the idea is Ben didn't fuck, you 559 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,919 Speaker 1: know kind of thing, and so on my season, everyone 560 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 1: knew I had sex. Everyone knew like the handy thing obviously, 561 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: the whole Caden thing, you know, and and it was 562 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,679 Speaker 1: just because it was it was just talked about that 563 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: I had sex, right, so we didn't have sex in 564 00:27:54,040 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: the fantasies. We he did not, and so everyone knew 565 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,679 Speaker 1: I e sex. So when when when the producers have 566 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 1: this opportunity to have someone clearly compelling storyline, but like, 567 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,199 Speaker 1: ultimately the producers want the bachelor of the batch shorette 568 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: to look overall good, right, right, so they're gonna think 569 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 1: about this and with me, as simple as it's does this, 570 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: everyone knew I fucked. So when Lisz shows up and says, oh, yeah, 571 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 1: I hooked up a nickel a wedding, no one cared. 572 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: Bachel Nation didn't care, no one really it was like interesting, 573 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 1: but no one judged me for no One's like, law, 574 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:30,479 Speaker 1: oh my god, no had that has been hooked up 575 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: with a girl at a wedding and showed up. Everyone 576 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: be like wait what Ben? Oh my god, I thought Ben, 577 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: he's like Captain America. And they you know what I'm saying, 578 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 1: like we know Pete Fox, he fucks four times and all. 579 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: And what I'm saying is, if there's an opportunity for 580 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: the bachelors to the producers to like talk about that 581 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: it'll come up, and I hope it does because I 582 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: think Peter is someone who has condoms in his car 583 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: and he's like Peter and think it's a little thing, 584 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: but Peter didn't go out of his way to make 585 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: sure he didn't have a condom in his car, and 586 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: like he was. I've heard from multiple Peters people that 587 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: Peter has swagged and that he's charming, and they're like, 588 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: you know, he's like you mean, it's there's a reason 589 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: why Peter was a guy who had sex with with 590 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: Hannah and a wimill because he's like you get him 591 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: in a closed room, he's just like he's going to 592 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: throw it down him, throw Hannah down on that pool table. 593 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,479 Speaker 1: And I was why he knows what he's doing. He 594 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: knows what he's doing, and I think to that regard, 595 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 1: he's I don't think Peter's is safe as you think 596 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: he is. I love Ben. Ben's not a big risk taker, 597 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: especially on camera. He's very you know, let me let 598 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: me get into this because you said, I said, do 599 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 1: you think Peter is like Ben Higgins? And you see 600 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: you said that as the perception. So a lot of 601 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: times we've seen this and we've actually had people come 602 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: on this podcast and say, man, I've met the lead 603 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: outside of the show and they're totally different, like they're 604 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: trying to play into this role. Do you feel like 605 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: that's what Peter's going to do? A good question that 606 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,719 Speaker 1: I don't know because as a bachelor, and I hear 607 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 1: this more from about bachelors than I do about bachelorettes. 608 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: Do you feel like a lot of times leads try 609 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: to be somebody that they think they're supposed to be 610 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: rather than just being themselves. I think who doesn't do 611 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: that when you're on TV? I don't think I did. Um. 612 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: I will say this about Ben. I think Ben is 613 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: that person. Ben is a genuine that is who Ben 614 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: isn't um very and I think that's why Ben was 615 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: great because it was authentic. Um. I you know, I 616 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: like Colton. Do I think he played into what he 617 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: thought he should say? Often? Yes, it doesn't. I mean 618 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: I don't like Colton doesn't think. I think Colon Elis 619 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: is a very nice guy, but he is definitely more 620 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: you know, thoughtful in that regard. But yes, I do 621 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: think I think the I think the bachelors are more 622 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: guilty of that than the women. And I think part 623 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: of it is because I think the bat shirts have 624 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: a little bit more freedom. Every Batch shirt is worried 625 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: about being a dick. Okay, I mean that's fair. I 626 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: mean they just are. It's just like, I don't want 627 00:30:58,400 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: to be a dick. I don't want them to think 628 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 1: of a dick to the women, you know, like I 629 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: don't want to be a dick, and like the bat 630 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: shirrets can kind of be dicks and everyone kind of 631 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: loves them for it. You're right, we can, yes, yes, 632 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: that is very true. And so there's a little bit 633 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: of that. M Well, I'm excited to see what's going 634 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: to happen with Peter. I feel like he's going to 635 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: really I think initially he might want to be a 636 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 1: little softer, and I think that over the show and 637 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: with the process, I think he's going to open up. 638 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: And I'm just gonna say, I'm anticipating a lot of 639 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: when Mill jokes on night one, sure, yeah, and I 640 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: hope not. And I've for if I'm one of the 641 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: girls that makes it to the Fantasy Suite and he 642 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 1: does not fuck me at least five times, I'm gonna 643 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: be upset. I Mean, it's becomes such a store lot. 644 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be like one, okay to go reap, but 645 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: that's gonna be so much pressure with him now that 646 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 1: he's like I mean, with now these expectations, these high expectations, 647 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: I wonder if with social media, with the influencer, with 648 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 1: all the opportunities which make you critical of hey, are 649 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 1: you here for the right reasons? Is the lead here 650 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 1: for the right reasons? With that comes all these high 651 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 1: this high pressure, everyone, every every lady feels that. I 652 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: mean again, I was a sexual bachelor, so like going in, 653 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: I knew I was only going to sleep with Finesse. 654 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: So everyone kind of knows that. And I remember like 655 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 1: my first reaction to Rachel and Raven when I kind 656 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: of like, I'm not sleeping with anyone in my face 657 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: and then I fell asleep, She fell asleep. I was like, 658 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: do you want a massage? Can pass out? Because we've 659 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: been drinking all night. Nick saved me, he gave me 660 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 1: til and all. I was like, the I carried her upstairs, 661 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: it was like I out of water. In the morning. 662 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 1: Raven put up more of a fight. Um, it's the 663 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: sweetest thing. Okay, I want to ask you, moving forward, 664 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 1: where you are right now. We know we've seen you 665 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: on The Bachelor, You've dated publicly, you've dated some famous people, 666 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: you've dated privately. You may be dating now. I don't know, 667 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 1: But I want to know what's the biggest difference in 668 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: what you're looking for now versus what you were looking 669 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 1: for when you first appeared on the Bachelorette, when when 670 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 1: America first met you much. I mean again, I'm not 671 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 1: like twenty two anymore, so like my uh, it's only 672 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 1: different the fact that I value safety, um more than 673 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: I ever did. Do you mean like safe sex or 674 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: too No, but like did my You know, it's people say, well, 675 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 1: can you date a normal person? Yeah, I've been out 676 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: with nurses and teachers and whatever. But sometimes and on 677 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: those types of dates, UM, that's why people date people 678 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 1: that can relate to You want to be able to 679 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: feel safe and trust around them. You want to be 680 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: able to be yourself and not have them that information. 681 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 1: You know, you want to feel safe, You want to 682 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: feel like they get you, they're not trying to get you. 683 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 1: And sometimes people try to relate to people on dates 684 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 1: and and and if people Obviously I've had a very 685 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 1: unique um experiences the past five years and I think 686 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 1: sometimes people who can't relate in some way, um, it 687 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: makes those dates hard. It's why you see a lot 688 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: of vatternation people end up together. Some of it is 689 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 1: because they want to get more Instagram ads, and some 690 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 1: of it is because they know that that person can 691 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: relate to them. That's a shared mutual experience. I mean, 692 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: I'm you and you in the goose. I mean you 693 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: can relate. I mean that there's there is value in that. 694 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 1: There's a people all of the world marry for those reasons. 695 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 1: And so I think that it's harder for me to 696 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: find someone I relate to. But I also don't want 697 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,320 Speaker 1: to date someone in Bautch Nation. It makes my life harder. 698 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: Are you currently dating anyone now? I don't really define 699 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 1: my larish ships on podcasts right now. Maybe maybe not. Yeah, 700 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 1: nothing serious, but he's dating for sure. Oh oh okay. 701 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 1: I would you ever go on a bachelor show again? 702 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: Not to find love? But you know, I'm always happy to. 703 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:34,359 Speaker 1: She's like, if Chris Harrison wants to take a step down, 704 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 1: it's fine, you know you should. I know, I know, 705 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: I know Ben Higgins. Okay, but can I just say 706 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 1: something Chris Harrison is a very sarcastic, funny like direct individual, 707 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 1: and you have a lot of the same character characteristics 708 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 1: as head in person, Chris and I have a lot 709 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,720 Speaker 1: of similar personalities, so you could play a role too. 710 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 1: I'm just saying they're gonna go with Ben, but Chris 711 00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 1: is also Chris is doing a great job. He's still 712 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 1: He's not going anywhere. We don't need to be talking 713 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,399 Speaker 1: about Christmas. He's old. I'm just saying, maybe he wants 714 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,439 Speaker 1: a chance. I was just saying, if if, why would 715 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 1: you ever want to do that job? Why would you 716 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: ever not want to do they ever want to go 717 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 1: with a female? I'd put my name in the hair 718 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 1: as they probably should. As they probably should twenty nineteen. 719 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 1: You know it's funny though, Ellen Ellen dear friend friend 720 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 1: of show, Ellen DeGeneres a show called Um Comedians and 721 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:33,320 Speaker 1: Cars and a few familiar with its. Jerry Steinfeld interviews 722 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,720 Speaker 1: all these other comedians. He had Ellen on and and 723 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 1: and Jerry was like, why do you want to be 724 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 1: a comedian? And Ellen goes, I just wanted to be famous, 725 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,240 Speaker 1: That's all I cared about. I remember listening. That's funny 726 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: because I only say that because in Batchel Nation. It's 727 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: this criticism like, oh, you're just here to be famous, 728 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. And here's Ellen's like, yeah, 729 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 1: I just want to be famous. And again I only 730 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,879 Speaker 1: say that because, like, I didn't have any expectations of 731 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: doing what I'm doing, and I kind of fell into 732 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: it and there wasn't a play book. Am I going 733 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 1: to pretend I don't like attention? Am I going to 734 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 1: pretend that, like we all talk about we all everyone 735 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 1: in vain jokes about their relevancy fading away and what 736 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,359 Speaker 1: they might be willing to do to keep it going. 737 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 1: It's a joke, but everyone talks about it. I think 738 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: the reason the criticism comes sometimes with vatchinations we put 739 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,840 Speaker 1: on ourselves. People don't come in with. It's almost like 740 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 1: what people say about the Kardashians. You don't have a talent, 741 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 1: you didn't come in with anything. This this a job before, 742 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 1: so you're using it to find something, where as opposed 743 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 1: to the people who do come in with a career 744 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 1: or a job get a little bit more I don't know, 745 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 1: people a little bit more lenient to them because they 746 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,360 Speaker 1: have something to fall back on, whereas the person who did. 747 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 1: And I think that's why people are so critical because 748 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 1: a lot of times people say, oh, people come on 749 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 1: the Vatch Nation, they don't have a job. During a job, 750 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 1: they just want to be something. There is that and 751 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 1: sometimes they do have a job and it's not the 752 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: job that they want to have. And I have to say, 753 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,359 Speaker 1: for anyone who goes on any capacity of a TV 754 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 1: show once famous like once Fame period, don't they certainly 755 00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,879 Speaker 1: don't hate at ten And there could be for different rue. 756 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 1: It could be for different reasons like if someone could 757 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,360 Speaker 1: just be um, maybe someone wants to be an actor 758 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,959 Speaker 1: or work as an influencer, be a host, and maybe 759 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 1: there are those elements, or maybe just someone just maybe 760 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:15,319 Speaker 1: to prove something. God knows, that's what I am just 761 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 1: here for love. I swear to God that everybody has 762 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 1: different reasons. But I think at the end of the day, 763 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 1: you're all open to experience. You guys know, I'm always 764 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:27,839 Speaker 1: on the road and I'm always traveling, but that does 765 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:29,880 Speaker 1: not mean that I do not know how to spruce 766 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,919 Speaker 1: up my apartment and have it looking absolutely delightful when 767 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 1: I come home. And I have done that most recently 768 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,319 Speaker 1: with my new article furniture, So Brian didn't know it. 769 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,359 Speaker 1: It just popped in one day. But I had to 770 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 1: do it because I saw this stunning gray wooden table 771 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 1: that matches our apartment to a team, and I got 772 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,399 Speaker 1: these beautiful black chairs that go with it. And so 773 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 1: one thing that's been missing from our apartment is balcony furniture. 774 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,800 Speaker 1: And I love to entertain. I love to have people 775 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,799 Speaker 1: come over, and so I haven't had a table. We 776 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 1: actually don't have a table in the entire apartment. I 777 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,879 Speaker 1: needed a table and I needed chairs to go with it, 778 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 1: and so I have found that through Article Furniture, and 779 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,799 Speaker 1: it's perfectly placed on the balcony. And now we are 780 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,759 Speaker 1: ready to entertain all of our friends. So I'm talking 781 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,840 Speaker 1: to you guys as you're listening, my Miami friends, I 782 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:16,759 Speaker 1: need you to come over, not only to come have 783 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 1: a good time with us, but to also see the 784 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 1: new furniture that we have. It's beautiful, it's modern, and 785 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 1: I got it at such an affordable price and you 786 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,360 Speaker 1: guys can save two You can save up to thirty 787 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 1: percent over traditional retail prices. Article has fast flat rate 788 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 1: shipping across the US and Canada, and it starts at 789 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,279 Speaker 1: just forty nine dollars. 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All you have to do is 800 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 1: visit article dot com slash b h H and the 801 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 1: discount will be automatically applied to you at checkout. That's 802 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,320 Speaker 1: article dot com slash b hh to get fifty dollars 803 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,799 Speaker 1: off your first purchase of one hundred dollars or more. 804 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 1: Right now, it's October and we have a very big 805 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 1: one of my actually one of my favorite holidays. I 806 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,399 Speaker 1: might not call it a holiday, but it's one of mine. 807 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 1: We've got Halloween coming up, and so in the spirit 808 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,759 Speaker 1: of Halloween, we want to do something fun, and we 809 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 1: want to do something festive, and since we have you here, Nick, 810 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 1: we're gonna do it with you. So we're gonna play 811 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,400 Speaker 1: a little bit of this or that. And it's the 812 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,800 Speaker 1: Bachelor Halloween Edition. So are you up for it? You 813 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,279 Speaker 1: don't really have a choice. I played this or that 814 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 1: with Andy on Andy season Smile this or was it that? 815 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. It was in um Brussels, Belgium, and 816 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 1: a moment I thought it was gonna win that she 817 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:55,799 Speaker 1: broke my heart. Oh okay, that so let's play. Let's play. 818 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,359 Speaker 1: All right, Here we go this or that Bachelor Halloween Edition. 819 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 1: Here we go champagne favored candy or rose flavored cocktails. God, 820 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:08,360 Speaker 1: I guess the rose flavored cocktails. All right? Yeah, I 821 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 1: would go that one too. All right. If it were 822 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,839 Speaker 1: to get trick or treaters, if you were to get 823 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 1: trigger treaters at the Bachelor Mansion, would you give out 824 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:27,480 Speaker 1: candy or condoms to the contestants? Just trigger treats, candy? 825 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:36,439 Speaker 1: It depends if they want to, because that's an portant 826 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,280 Speaker 1: age and learn about same sex. Well, there you go, condoms. 827 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 1: It is so in the face of a zombie apocalypse. 828 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,279 Speaker 1: In the face of a zombie Oh God, in the 829 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,959 Speaker 1: face of the face of the zombie apocalypse, who would 830 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:56,440 Speaker 1: you want a drinking Why in the face of a 831 00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 1: zombie apocalypse? Who would you want with you? Dan or Demmy? 832 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,759 Speaker 1: This is actually tough because it depends what you want 833 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,400 Speaker 1: out of it, right, do you want Dean the Master 834 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 1: of Survival? Who? Like, I mean it's the end of 835 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,239 Speaker 1: the world. I mean, like I want to have sex 836 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 1: with somebody. So, like that's where we were going with it, Okaya, Like, 837 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,439 Speaker 1: I mean, if we're talking about the end of the world, 838 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 1: Jimmy might not want it from you. I'm charily possible. 839 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 1: Um anyways, Um, I'm just saying, like we're talking about 840 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 1: the end of the world. Yeah, and when people get 841 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 1: asked a question about like, you know, the end of 842 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,480 Speaker 1: the world, depends how you want to go out right, 843 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 1: so insane Jean, if it's not the end of the world, 844 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,920 Speaker 1: if if if if, if there's a chance of survival, 845 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:46,080 Speaker 1: I'm Pickandean? Okay, good? Next question, who would plan a 846 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 1: better Halloween party? Ashley and Jared or Jaden Tanner and Jared. 847 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 1: Their wedding was phenomenal. It was beautifully planned, and really 848 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,920 Speaker 1: well done. I heard loos were there? Oh I was? 849 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,399 Speaker 1: It looked beautiful. From what I can tell, Jay, it's 850 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 1: not actually much of the planner. It's more Tanner. And 851 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 1: if it doesn't include fantasy football, I don't you know 852 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:12,319 Speaker 1: would be much of a party. Yeah, I was about 853 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,240 Speaker 1: to say something else. I think you should say, Hey, Rachel, 854 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,680 Speaker 1: is one thing you wouldn't shut up when I are 855 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,800 Speaker 1: on my season is how much you kept it one hundred. 856 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 1: So I feel like whatever you are about to say, 857 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 1: you should say. Well, I was just gonna say something 858 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 1: about Tanner. You said when it comes to planning fantasy football? 859 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,759 Speaker 1: Or I was like or just like talking shit about 860 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 1: somebody from another season? You known before Tanner was ever 861 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:35,920 Speaker 1: on the show, he was a Bachelor superfan and he 862 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:39,759 Speaker 1: will admit to that. Okay, we really oh hardcore? Yeah, 863 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:43,080 Speaker 1: he's always giving him super Speaking of people giving their 864 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,760 Speaker 1: opinions on posts and likes and where they don't belong, 865 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,880 Speaker 1: Tanner together, would you rather find out that one of 866 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:53,440 Speaker 1: your suitors is on a missing missing person's list or 867 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 1: hasn't Nanny, both of which should happened on the back 868 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 1: Nanny as an adult? How was kil was she lovely, 869 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 1: lovely human being, really delightful. Krin's entire family was really, really, 870 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 1: really quite sweet. It's cute. Okay. Next question, would you 871 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 1: rather go on a date to a graveyard or haunted house? 872 00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 1: I hate? Haunted houses are so stupid. What oh my god, 873 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 1: there's a person behind a corner and a mask and 874 00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,360 Speaker 1: the job on go boom. The point is that you 875 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,440 Speaker 1: fake you've like you're scared, you go on a date. 876 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:35,320 Speaker 1: I think like to hold onto. I'm so scared. No 877 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:39,799 Speaker 1: graveyard gyard? Okay? Who would you rather see cover the 878 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:44,359 Speaker 1: monster Mash Chris Harrison or Wells Chris Harrison, Yeah, for sure. 879 00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,120 Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like Wells has probably already 880 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:52,600 Speaker 1: done the monster Mash somewhere. Chris Harrison. Nick, it's definitely 881 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,239 Speaker 1: been a pleasure. It hasn't a pleasure. I hate to 882 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 1: see you go because you're definitely into having the conversations. 883 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,759 Speaker 1: Maybe that people are too afraid. It's yeah, let's shake 884 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:06,160 Speaker 1: it up, shameless plug val files for you know, more authentic, Um, 885 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:10,239 Speaker 1: not more. I was about to correct you, sorry, Rachel um, 886 00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 1: but yeah, check us out. Also, if you ever want 887 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,279 Speaker 1: to come on my show and just spilled the tea 888 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,200 Speaker 1: about what happened with Raven. I just want you to know, 889 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 1: say place and again, I'm team Raven. I like Raven, 890 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:27,680 Speaker 1: but I do think sometimes Raven is not who she 891 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,080 Speaker 1: pretends to be. Well, I like the actual Raven more 892 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,960 Speaker 1: than the Raven she pretends to be. I think a lot. 893 00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:35,879 Speaker 1: I think people that's just a general thing. What people 894 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,319 Speaker 1: say about the Bachelor and Bachelorette is that she's like 895 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,759 Speaker 1: people like real versions of people rather than when they 896 00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:43,799 Speaker 1: see you can't wait to that Reddit thread that like 897 00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,640 Speaker 1: Raven creates about you know, I think as you go 898 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:50,359 Speaker 1: through the process, you know, you uncover, you uncover the layers. Okay, Nick, 899 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 1: I have one last question before you go, any words 900 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,719 Speaker 1: of wisdom for Hannah on Dancing with the Stars as 901 00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:00,319 Speaker 1: she enters this final phase of competition. Think Hannah needs 902 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,799 Speaker 1: my advice. I mean, she's gonna go farther than I went. 903 00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:07,719 Speaker 1: And how far did you go? Top five? Me and 904 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,080 Speaker 1: me and Nancy Kerrigan went home the same weekend week 905 00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,360 Speaker 1: So like whether I was fifth or six or vice versa, 906 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,640 Speaker 1: but it was top top five or six, I was 907 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,640 Speaker 1: gonna be in the finals for sure. I'd be shot. 908 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,600 Speaker 1: She's gonna she's gonna be top three for sure. That's 909 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,440 Speaker 1: what I said. I think top three. Uh yeah, I 910 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,520 Speaker 1: think she needs my advice at all doing whatever she's doing. Okay, 911 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,520 Speaker 1: girls killing it, Yeah, she is killing it well. Nick 912 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,400 Speaker 1: definitely been a pleasure for him. We can't wait to 913 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:37,240 Speaker 1: read my comments after this episode. Drop. Reddit's gonna be popping. 914 00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,799 Speaker 1: Love you Reddit. Yeah no, but seriously, thank you for 915 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:45,839 Speaker 1: coming on and having just such good, refreshing conversation. If 916 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,000 Speaker 1: you want to come back, I can do the favor. 917 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,239 Speaker 1: I definitely can come back to Vile Finals. And you 918 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,200 Speaker 1: should come back on this podcast too, of course. Crystal, 919 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,319 Speaker 1: thank you so much for being here as well, and Bastination, 920 00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,080 Speaker 1: we love you. Thank you so much for listening to us. Wait, 921 00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,640 Speaker 1: wait can be before we go, I just want to say, 922 00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:03,600 Speaker 1: what do you want to come back? No? Wait, what 923 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,759 Speaker 1: the fuck? When you had Jed on your podcast, I 924 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:10,399 Speaker 1: gotta say you was not too nice to Jed. Yes, 925 00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,520 Speaker 1: also bigger criticism when Jed had a little hissy fit 926 00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,279 Speaker 1: about me, You egged him on, and you're like, I 927 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,359 Speaker 1: know you were leading the witness is fair. I thought 928 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:24,160 Speaker 1: you would have my back more Dad, and Ali was 929 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,480 Speaker 1: was she was a little more team team Nick. I 930 00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,239 Speaker 1: was like, I was listening to this thing, and I 931 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,480 Speaker 1: was just like, what the fuck. I knew what you 932 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,279 Speaker 1: were doing, but I say, please keep this because I 933 00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:36,959 Speaker 1: you have always had my back, and I actually hate 934 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:40,600 Speaker 1: the way that came out. In my defense, I was 935 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,960 Speaker 1: cut off, not not by production, but the podcast was 936 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,439 Speaker 1: moving and I would have gone into it way more. 937 00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,920 Speaker 1: So it left off on my leading question. I mean 938 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,120 Speaker 1: granted to be honest. When he said it, I thought, 939 00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,879 Speaker 1: my god, this is a headline. Okay, I knew him, 940 00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,000 Speaker 1: but I wanted to get into it a little bit more. 941 00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,480 Speaker 1: And recently that was done to me as well, and 942 00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,400 Speaker 1: I on somebody else's podcast, and I did not appreciate that. 943 00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,759 Speaker 1: So I do apologize because that is and I know 944 00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:07,600 Speaker 1: that's not what you were looking for, but I would 945 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:09,600 Speaker 1: have gone into that wall. I know, and I want 946 00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:11,440 Speaker 1: to listening to that. I thought to myself, if I 947 00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,880 Speaker 1: had gentleman podcast and he brought you up in the 948 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,000 Speaker 1: same way, I would have lit his ass up and 949 00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,120 Speaker 1: defended your ass for his life. I want you to 950 00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,399 Speaker 1: get more into it. I wanted him to. I wanted 951 00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,200 Speaker 1: him to spell it out, and then I wanted to 952 00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,680 Speaker 1: go at it. I also wasn't there in person, but no, 953 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,200 Speaker 1: you are totally in the right to call me out 954 00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,480 Speaker 1: on that. Thanks for having me all right, I just 955 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,080 Speaker 1: want to thank Nick so much for coming on the podcast. 956 00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:35,040 Speaker 1: Always a good time to talk to my favorite ex boyfriend. 957 00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:39,200 Speaker 1: And next week we have coming up my favorite jeweler, 958 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:43,480 Speaker 1: your favorite jeweler. That's right, the man, the myth, the legend, 959 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,439 Speaker 1: Neil Lane will be in studio on Bachelor Happy Hour. 960 00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,319 Speaker 1: You guys, you're not gonna want to miss it. You 961 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,880 Speaker 1: think you know Nil Lane, you have no idea, so 962 00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:54,440 Speaker 1: make sure to see her next to you, guys, for 963 00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,399 Speaker 1: all the right reasons. In the meantime, you can get 964 00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,840 Speaker 1: all the latest Bachelor Nation news on Bachelor nation dot com. 965 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,080 Speaker 1: Right now, I got something you want to share. You 966 00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:06,280 Speaker 1: can email us at happy Hour at bachelnation dot com 967 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:10,000 Speaker 1: or visit batchelnation dot com and click podcasts. Thank you 968 00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,160 Speaker 1: guys so much for listening, and don't forget you can 969 00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,239 Speaker 1: subscribe to our podcast as you should Bachelor Happy Hour, 970 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,000 Speaker 1: and if you've subscribed, send it to somebody else and 971 00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:20,919 Speaker 1: have them subscribe because these are episodes you just don't 972 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:24,080 Speaker 1: want to miss. 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