Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast. We'll celebrate West proudly in Tybee.
Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansons. I come to you from
Speaker 1: a virtual room filled with some heroes. Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal. Yes, no,
Speaker 1: it's not that we're going to time. We are back
Speaker 1: from Tybee. An incredible weekend, boys and girls. Ricky Hollywood
Speaker 1: jumping in right now as well. Um, we all flew
Speaker 1: out a whole bunch of us, a whole mess of us,
Speaker 1: l A folk, Tybee folks, Cincinnati folk, and we have
Speaker 1: a big old party. Uh. It was less a memorial
Speaker 1: to West, although there were certainly elements of that, but
Speaker 1: a more a celebration of a great man, a great friend,
Speaker 1: a great father, a great husband, a great brother, a
Speaker 1: great son. And we had a great time. We did
Speaker 1: five days on tye Be. We got their Thursday right,
Speaker 1: we all left Monday. Um, only West like could bring
Speaker 1: this group of people together, you know, the Cincinnati crew
Speaker 1: in the Westling brothers, and then there was us of
Speaker 1: course Colleen and John, but also you know a lot
Speaker 1: of people from the you know NFL, like Matt Taitton.
Speaker 1: I got a good story I actually do want to
Speaker 1: say in the podcast with him later. UM, and you know,
Speaker 1: omar Ruiz and everything, and then the Tybee crew who
Speaker 1: was just so amazing setting up this UM softball field dedication.
Speaker 1: And just like they they're all very different and some
Speaker 1: of them, you know, I gotta you know, I realized,
Speaker 1: like you know, West brought them together, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like they it's not like they all of
Speaker 1: them are all hanging out of the time, but West
Speaker 1: had such um an amazing ability. I mean I and
Speaker 1: I thought about, I know, we all have he brought
Speaker 1: you brought the three of us together in a lot
Speaker 1: of ways too, but just seeing like all those disparate people,
Speaker 1: he would have been like he would have gotten to
Speaker 1: kick out of that. I mean, and we had the
Speaker 1: chance to stay in a group house together, and UM,
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, I've I've sounded like the
Speaker 1: person that's been hesitant to get back into things, not
Speaker 1: this kind of thing. I mean, UM, what was happening
Speaker 1: in the house to me felt very Westlemania like at times. UM,
Speaker 1: and it kind of had some flagship elements to hanging
Speaker 1: out with West. Like, yes, Greg, you mentioned like we
Speaker 1: met all these new people Um. Even inside our group,
Speaker 1: I think like we talked, talked, you know, to each
Speaker 1: other in ways we haven't been able to like in
Speaker 1: an ages in person Um. There were plenty of spirits
Speaker 1: flowing and you this is everything that always seem to
Speaker 1: happen around West, like on Sunday night. Um. For those
Speaker 1: that have ever wondered, like who listened to this, what
Speaker 1: would it be like to hang out with this cast
Speaker 1: of characters? I mean we got a version of dan
Speaker 1: Um operating humor, various lines of humor, I mean like
Speaker 1: Dan times nineteen and there was I think my jaw
Speaker 1: and face were like hurting by the end of the
Speaker 1: night and the next morning from just laughing NonStop for
Speaker 1: like three and a half or four hours. Um, it
Speaker 1: was a truly great time. It was hard to leave.
Speaker 1: Like when those things happened, part you just forget about
Speaker 1: the whole rest of the world. We didn't sit around
Speaker 1: talking about work. We just did it up the way
Speaker 1: West would want to have things were. It wasn't it
Speaker 1: was really it was a beautiful thing. And there is
Speaker 1: this hole in the center because being in Tybee and
Speaker 1: this great island with these friendly people and everything is
Speaker 1: so wonderful and lived in. The people on the island
Speaker 1: that organized various elements of the weekend did such an
Speaker 1: amazing job doing it. The only thing missing was West
Speaker 1: and and so there's that part of it that keeps
Speaker 1: it bitter sweet. But everything else about it was frankly
Speaker 1: beautiful and ricky, like as Mark was saying, like us
Speaker 1: all hanging out together, you know, the inside jokes start
Speaker 1: to pile up, and we were doing all these different
Speaker 1: adventures together. Uh, it was a great way to honor West.
Speaker 1: It was so much fun and you know, as you
Speaker 1: can you can here by my voice. There was one point,
Speaker 1: I think it was Sunday night where Greg told me
Speaker 1: to just stop talking because it was hurting everyone in
Speaker 1: the room because we're just yelling. We're screaming at each
Speaker 1: other like loving and it was we're playing we're playing
Speaker 1: route you know, beer pong, where your voice was next
Speaker 1: level though it was like it was an adolescent boy
Speaker 1: at the precise moment he became a man. But just
Speaker 1: like always, just like you gotta you gotta put a
Speaker 1: pin in this and try to recover for tomorrow, because
Speaker 1: I was kind of into it. Can you let me
Speaker 1: know that many time? Dan loves adolescent boys. It was
Speaker 1: such an awesome, awesome weekend and I couldn't have you know,
Speaker 1: the house that that you guys just talked about was
Speaker 1: so cool. It was like three floors. We're all together,
Speaker 1: like it was the perfect mix. Greg didn't stay there,
Speaker 1: so it was amazing, like we all like it was
Speaker 1: so great, Like we had so much fun. Dan the
Speaker 1: morning of the softball game, starts putting on the bows speaker,
Speaker 1: put me in coach, and he's blasting it. And we
Speaker 1: had to get up really early because you know, the
Speaker 1: powers that be put the softball game very very early
Speaker 1: in the morning after we've been up drinking and uh,
Speaker 1: Jet was like asleep in the room and Dan busts
Speaker 1: into the room with the bows speaker. He starts playing
Speaker 1: put me in coach, like it was just it was
Speaker 1: I just am so in love with you guys and
Speaker 1: all the people that loved Wes and it's just like
Speaker 1: my heart is so full after this weekend. Well, it
Speaker 1: was fun to see like the combat. You know, I
Speaker 1: stayed with Rosie and Wayne to a West's closest friends
Speaker 1: who had stayed with another time. You know, when when
Speaker 1: West and Keisha and I went out there in eighteen,
Speaker 1: and that was one of my favorite things to see
Speaker 1: from the weekend, was like the mixing um of some
Speaker 1: new New l A characters with some TYPEE characters and
Speaker 1: getting to know some of the TYPEE people and getting
Speaker 1: no chriss you know, brothers in a different It was
Speaker 1: a big Tim Wesseling weekend for me at least, I
Speaker 1: feel like he was like a star of Westlings. And
Speaker 1: seeing for instance, our our producer on the TV side,
Speaker 1: Matt tant And in this cornhole tournament that that we
Speaker 1: all had, which Dan was fantastic and I think could
Speaker 1: have could have won it and lost a tight semifinal game,
Speaker 1: but I got beat by a guy called the Terminator
Speaker 1: in the semifinals. Actually Colleen was my partner. Colleen was
Speaker 1: throwing great corn We were a co ed team and
Speaker 1: we were wiping out all these like island folks who
Speaker 1: thought they're pooped in and stink, well it's stunk, it's stunk,
Speaker 1: something rotten. But the Terminator just barely edged us out. Right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Westling Brothers won anyway ultimately, and that was great as well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was it was fitting that that Phil and Larry
Speaker 1: won the tournament. But and I think it was a
Speaker 1: first round matchup, and I'm watching, uh, two of two
Speaker 1: of our friends, Matt Tan and Emily Mitcha go against
Speaker 1: to Tybee Folk and Tan you know, Tan is a
Speaker 1: competitive guy, and he's going against Denise, one of one
Speaker 1: of West's good friends, um who I was shocked to
Speaker 1: see still standing at that time in the night. You know,
Speaker 1: she talked earlier like three pm. You know, sometimes it's bedtime,
Speaker 1: the way that she was around one or two. We
Speaker 1: were getting that getting after earlier today and she is
Speaker 1: standing next to Matt, not in great shape, and she
Speaker 1: is wiping the floor with him, and she isn't it's talking.
Speaker 1: She's talking trash. I mean it's a team game, but
Speaker 1: she's talking trash. She's like, who's winning right now? And
Speaker 1: I'm like, you're winning fourteen to two, dumbmass like, and
Speaker 1: it was like it was just like really hilarious to
Speaker 1: like watch this interacted him walk over and just be like,
Speaker 1: I can't believe I lost to that very low um
Speaker 1: pr reaction to Cessler and mitchiga a destroying Dan and
Speaker 1: Gonzo and beer pong, and then the whole room clears
Speaker 1: out because it's like, oh, Dan and Gonzo are out
Speaker 1: of the competition, so there's no heat around this anymore.
Speaker 1: And then we devastate Ricky and Jet and there's no
Speaker 1: there's no buzz around it afterwards. So I'm I'm investigating
Speaker 1: part of the tournament, but because there was a lot
Speaker 1: of it, Mark and great performance by you. Um was
Speaker 1: this millennial gen Z version of beer Pong slash Bayirut
Speaker 1: that's going on now? And I understand we're in a
Speaker 1: COVID world right now, Um, but they don't put the
Speaker 1: beer in the cups now. They put water in the
Speaker 1: cups and then and then your own drink, and then
Speaker 1: you drink your own drink. And it's like all these
Speaker 1: kids don't understand that the whole rush of the game
Speaker 1: is the payoff and having to take the swigs of
Speaker 1: the beer and all this stuff. I just thought you
Speaker 1: guys had stripped away the elements of the game in
Speaker 1: such a way, Youth of America that the old timers
Speaker 1: the old guard. It's not I'm not shouting, I'm not
Speaker 1: shaking my fist at the cloud. I'm telling you you
Speaker 1: made it worse, Bix. Beer Pung. Bring it back to
Speaker 1: the way it was. Bring the spirit back to the
Speaker 1: game and the crowds. Mark will come. Speaking of crowds,
Speaker 1: when Connie and I were in the semifinals against the Terminator,
Speaker 1: there was like it was in It was like eleven
Speaker 1: o'clock at night there. I feel like there were fifty
Speaker 1: or it felt like a thousand people watching us every throw,
Speaker 1: the crowd going nuts. That's Tybee. Tybee is just a
Speaker 1: fun place where you get loose and have fun. And
Speaker 1: I totally understand why Wes loved it there so much.
Speaker 1: And tell them, tell them the power of who my
Speaker 1: partner was by the luck of the draw, Oh that
Speaker 1: was great, and and and your partner Eric, and this
Speaker 1: was perfect irony because you know, you're a little weird
Speaker 1: with this stuff. La Sid one of the great legends
Speaker 1: on Mount rushmore of producers for the Around the NFL podcast.
Speaker 1: She joined us. She was one of the um heroes
Speaker 1: uh in Tybee Island and by luck of the draw,
Speaker 1: Ricky who always has you know, little hang ups about
Speaker 1: Las Sid because she was so damn good at her
Speaker 1: job and I miss her and I think about her
Speaker 1: all the time. And she's got an amazing voice. She
Speaker 1: just got a career on the up swing and she's
Speaker 1: found a wonderful man named Bronson, which who thought that
Speaker 1: was the name? That was still uh in the mix.
Speaker 1: But you, I have to say, Erica before we get
Speaker 1: into the news, you really did comport yourself well with Sydney,
Speaker 1: knowing she was there, knowing that we wanted her. They're
Speaker 1: good for you. You're you're growing up right before eyes.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah. Unfortunately, I really really really wanted to
Speaker 1: hate her, but she's so sweet, she's so nice. And
Speaker 1: Dan put her in a laundry closet and I had
Speaker 1: a master bedroom. So I think that's all that needs
Speaker 1: to be said about that. I would explain that were
Speaker 1: just like leaving it at that. Yeah, Erica could not
Speaker 1: take it though. When we took a picture with Sydney,
Speaker 1: she started like twitching and screaming and and then I'm
Speaker 1: coming into that picture, horrible voice. Hi, Hi. I was,
Speaker 1: We're getting ready to take a picture, and then I
Speaker 1: heard like ah, And I looked at the swamp to
Speaker 1: see if a creature was crawling towards us, but it
Speaker 1: was Erica down the driveway wanting to get in the photo.
Speaker 1: Let's do some news. The citizens of Toby Island dedicated
Speaker 1: to West a man who loved the game called this
Speaker 1: little island home. Let's awesome, awesome job by the people
Speaker 1: of Tybee. They they named one of the primary softball
Speaker 1: field there westling Field. It is that forever uh. And
Speaker 1: a plaque also was put right behind home plate that
Speaker 1: um Lakisha helped drill right into the wall with Eric,
Speaker 1: one of the locals there who um runs huck A
Speaker 1: Poos the bar that we all love and was West's bar.
Speaker 1: And again we've heard this before. Huck A Poos gets
Speaker 1: people take journeys to go to where West wind uh
Speaker 1: and hung out during his time and Georgia. UH. Listeners
Speaker 1: of the show will travel as far as from Austria.
Speaker 1: One listener just to have a beer at huck A
Speaker 1: Poo's And I you listen, you don't need an excuse
Speaker 1: to go to Tybee, but if you do want to
Speaker 1: see this whole place and see the bar and experience
Speaker 1: the food, I went to a place called the Sea
Speaker 1: Wolf four days in a row that had awesome trial
Speaker 1: royaled oysters and great drinks. And then you could visit
Speaker 1: westling Field with the sign and the plaque and know
Speaker 1: that's that's where this all went down. This weekend. You're
Speaker 1: you're wearing that, you're wearing the shirt from the game,
Speaker 1: which does and you're right about them doing an auscar Eric,
Speaker 1: you know Eric de Buke, who I think helped push
Speaker 1: that through, you know, town council on Jason Bielderman, his friend,
Speaker 1: the former mayor who's spoken Eric from Huckapoos were all amazing.
Speaker 1: But the one thing that the Huckapoos side of it
Speaker 1: was it was a little on toward is for this
Speaker 1: softball game, they basically bring in ringers from out of
Speaker 1: town that never even we're on the softball team with West.
Speaker 1: The only thing I didn't get right the whole weekend,
Speaker 1: you know, huge huge guns, and they're wearing baseball uniforms,
Speaker 1: were batting everyone. You know, we've got all all of
Speaker 1: our girls that wanted to play. Everyone that wanted to
Speaker 1: play got to play. We you know, we're we're playing,
Speaker 1: we're competitive. We put some rum runs up at first,
Speaker 1: and they've got these matters that they bring in from
Speaker 1: out of town. So we see you huck a Poos
Speaker 1: and uh and we're gonna come back with some ringers
Speaker 1: of our own next time. Well to the point where um,
Speaker 1: you know I was I was standing as an observer
Speaker 1: with with Emily hans Is, and Emily hans has commented
Speaker 1: on one of these two gigantic men's thighs um probably
Speaker 1: thirty to forty times during the game. I don't know
Speaker 1: Dan if that um led to any further discussions with you,
Speaker 1: but she she was plugged in on those performers. I
Speaker 1: was unaware of that, but I will be having a
Speaker 1: very serious sit down with her right after today's Probably
Speaker 1: she was. Dan made a play. Dan made a play,
Speaker 1: and she's screaming, that's my baby. But Dan didn't get
Speaker 1: the guy out, He didn't throw that it was he
Speaker 1: didn't throw it to first base in time, and Emily
Speaker 1: screaming like, that's my baby. It was fun. It was fun. Alright,
Speaker 1: let's get into it, Ricky. Listen, your heart is filled
Speaker 1: with love about our trip uh to Tybee Island and
Speaker 1: then we get back. You're in l A. I'm on
Speaker 1: the Jersey Shore with family right now. Um. And news
Speaker 1: breaks on Monday that we have our first openly gay
Speaker 1: active NFL player in our midst It is Las Vegas
Speaker 1: Raiders defensive and Carl Nazeb took to Instagram and this
Speaker 1: is what the twenty year old had to say, I
Speaker 1: just want to take a quick moment to say that
Speaker 1: I'm gay. I've been meaning to do this for a
Speaker 1: while now, but I finally feel comfortable enough to get
Speaker 1: it off my chest. UM. I really have the best life.
Speaker 1: I got the best family, friends and job a guy
Speaker 1: could ask for. UM. I'm a pretty private person, so
Speaker 1: I hope you guys know that I'm really not doing
Speaker 1: this for attention. UM. I just think that representation and
Speaker 1: visibility are so important. UM. I actually hope that like
Speaker 1: one day, videos like this and the whole coming out
Speaker 1: process are just not necessary. UM. But until then, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do my best and do my part to
Speaker 1: cultivated culture that's accepting, that's compassionate. And I'm gonna start
Speaker 1: by donating one thousand dollars to the Trevor Project. They're
Speaker 1: an incredible organization. There the number one suicider venture service
Speaker 1: for lgbt Q youth in America, and they're truly doing
Speaker 1: incredible things and I'm very excited to be a part
Speaker 1: of it, helping any way that I can, and I'm
Speaker 1: really palmed to see what the future holds. The Trevor
Speaker 1: Project provides crisis intervention and suicide prevention services to the
Speaker 1: l g B t Q community and Ricky Um, I
Speaker 1: thought it was notable how he started that I want
Speaker 1: to take a quick moment to say I'm gay, and
Speaker 1: then he said it doesn't need to be this blown out,
Speaker 1: overwrought exercise. It's supposed to be normal because it's normal
Speaker 1: all around us. Now, Um, how did you feel about
Speaker 1: that and what this means? Yeah, I mean it really
Speaker 1: did bring me to tears last night reading about it
Speaker 1: and reading some of the comments and everyone coming out
Speaker 1: in support of him. You know when when you when
Speaker 1: you see someone post something like that, you instantly go
Speaker 1: to the comments because you're like, here's all these people
Speaker 1: that wanna, you know, boycott the NFL, and everyone's got oh,
Speaker 1: he's not gonna want to shower with teammates. Now, our
Speaker 1: teammates aren't gonna you know, you see that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: But a lot of the comments, especially from players right now,
Speaker 1: we're so positive and so just moving to see and
Speaker 1: and to me, it's you know, when I watch football
Speaker 1: as a kid, I watch you know, football because I
Speaker 1: love the game. And when I look at it, their
Speaker 1: men playing and so I know that I'm not going
Speaker 1: to grow up and be a football player. But there
Speaker 1: are a lot of young boys, especially that grow up
Speaker 1: watching football that could be like, I want to be
Speaker 1: a football player, but I'm a little different than what
Speaker 1: is considered normal. So there's not a place for me there.
Speaker 1: And it seems so weird and a lot of people
Speaker 1: are commenting like why does it matter? Why does it matter?
Speaker 1: But it actually really does, Like you can be a tough, masculine,
Speaker 1: you know, great player in the NFL and who cares
Speaker 1: who you love. It doesn't have to be this huge,
Speaker 1: this huge thing, And to me that is so moving.
Speaker 1: And you know, we did our pridecast. Pride is supposed
Speaker 1: to be fun, full of love, but there are so
Speaker 1: many people who think they're better off dead than loving
Speaker 1: who they love and just to see someone that they
Speaker 1: can look up at the TV and know that it's
Speaker 1: okay and their players except them. The media is covering
Speaker 1: it in an accepting way, like it really gives me
Speaker 1: chills because it's like, look, you can be whoever you
Speaker 1: want to be, and you have a place here in
Speaker 1: this league. It's amazing because it's been seven years since
Speaker 1: Michael Sam, I mean Michael Sam was you know, on
Speaker 1: practice squads. He's on a roster. He he wasn't a
Speaker 1: guy like Nasim, who's what on his third contract now
Speaker 1: with the Raiders. He actually, I think took a pay
Speaker 1: cut to stay with the Raiders this year. You know,
Speaker 1: he had been with the Browns in the Bucks before that,
Speaker 1: you know, solid, solid player. But it really hit me
Speaker 1: actually during our Pride episode is like, how you know,
Speaker 1: how how little the NFL has how come in the
Speaker 1: last seven years, like since that happened, or Baseballer or
Speaker 1: bath Wy. It's like kind of wild that these first
Speaker 1: are still happening. And it's great the way he did it.
Speaker 1: Um I love um that he's also like directing people's
Speaker 1: energy towards suicide prevention and mental illness along with LGBQ
Speaker 1: t Q and that's like, that's amazing too, and it's
Speaker 1: and it's great because no one ultimately, like even if
Speaker 1: he's trying to and he's trying to limit the exposure
Speaker 1: and you know media and you can tell he's not
Speaker 1: gonna be like trying to do a bunch of feature
Speaker 1: articles and stuff like that, it is hard and it's
Speaker 1: a big deal because no one else has done it
Speaker 1: and there's tons of gay players in the league at
Speaker 1: all times. You know. One of the things that struck
Speaker 1: me was Warren Moon, uh sent a tweet out and
Speaker 1: he was like, this is so awesome to see I
Speaker 1: had so many gay teammates over the years. This is
Speaker 1: Warren Moon, you know, playing in the eighties and nineties,
Speaker 1: which of course has always been true. It's not it's
Speaker 1: never not been true in the NFL. And he and
Speaker 1: it wasn't a big deal among us. We were supportive, UM,
Speaker 1: and it was great, you know, for them, but obviously
Speaker 1: it really wasn't as comfortable for them, UM. And and
Speaker 1: certainly not to go public or else this would have
Speaker 1: been happening. And so this this happening, hopefully, UM just
Speaker 1: makes it easier for everyone moving forward. I think of,
Speaker 1: you know, beyond the football side of it, and it
Speaker 1: is incredible. I mean, honestly, there were five there were
Speaker 1: Warren Moon, new people and everyone in a in a
Speaker 1: locker room would but had that gone public, it would
Speaker 1: have been absolutely it would have been that player. And
Speaker 1: you know what what he mentioned today nassive or yesterday
Speaker 1: about the fact that he's agonized UM over this for
Speaker 1: fifteen years. That's the personal side because like we all have, um,
Speaker 1: sort of so many worlds within us. Like you can't
Speaker 1: just put people into a category and leave them in
Speaker 1: a suppressed state. When I think about someone agonizing for
Speaker 1: fifteen years over they're authentic, genuine person who they really are.
Speaker 1: Because Karl Nassa, you know, we've not heard him talk
Speaker 1: too much, but he was on the Browns Hard Knocks,
Speaker 1: and I think he struck us as someone that was unique, um,
Speaker 1: super interesting and like not like yeah, like he was
Speaker 1: sort of stealing the show. Um. But I think that
Speaker 1: when he also says that he did not do this,
Speaker 1: um simply for attention, because he is a private person,
Speaker 1: that felt very real to me. And it's tilted now
Speaker 1: to some degree where we can't have uh, young people
Speaker 1: feeling unsupported by any adult figure in their life and
Speaker 1: going through a fifteen year agoniz i agonizing process. And
Speaker 1: that's where I think in in in our country it's
Speaker 1: changing a little bit. I'm not saying it's perfect or
Speaker 1: easy at all, but worth much better off than we
Speaker 1: were twenty years ago on that front. And you know,
Speaker 1: we had someone after our show in West Hollywood, a listener,
Speaker 1: a male listener right us privately and say thank you
Speaker 1: so much, because, like, I'm a football fan, but I
Speaker 1: don't feel really heard on that front. Like I am,
Speaker 1: I'm seeing as like a different type of football fan
Speaker 1: than the typical guy or girl you'd think follows the NFL.
Speaker 1: And it was like to have you guys go just
Speaker 1: celebrate Ricky, but just kind of be have a real
Speaker 1: talk about the whole thing. I mean, I'm in a
Speaker 1: bit of different place than I was ten fifteen years
Speaker 1: ago on the topic too, So it's like you gotta
Speaker 1: keep evolving. Seven years ago, I mean, we were at
Speaker 1: Radio City Music Hall when the Michael Sam draft pick happened. UM,
Speaker 1: And it does feel and Erica, you're much more equipped
Speaker 1: to tell us how you feel about this. To me,
Speaker 1: from where I stand, it does feel like there's been
Speaker 1: progress even since then. And I don't think UM comments
Speaker 1: sections are one thing, because comment sections could be horrible places, UM.
Speaker 1: But I'm more thinking about UM locker rooms and players
Speaker 1: giving interview after interviews after fact, when after the fact,
Speaker 1: when they're asked during training camp if they would be
Speaker 1: comfortable seven years ago, I would not be surprised if
Speaker 1: there was a lot of sound bites coming out with
Speaker 1: guys that are afraid of what they don't understand, saying
Speaker 1: critical comments about could I play with a gay teammate?
Speaker 1: I don't think that's gonna happen anymore because I think, hey,
Speaker 1: there's a greater understanding of this and be people understand
Speaker 1: that that's not acceptable to even have that opinion and
Speaker 1: share it in public. Um. So I think it's gonna
Speaker 1: work out very well for NASA in the sense that
Speaker 1: I don't think it and we'll say but I I
Speaker 1: think he'll be able to go on with his career
Speaker 1: and not feel like he's in an uncomfortable place. And
Speaker 1: then Ricky the positive thing I think, and the thing
Speaker 1: if if this really spends forward, because we know there
Speaker 1: are many many gay um players in the NFL right
Speaker 1: now beyond Karl Lass, if he opens the floodgates and
Speaker 1: more people follow him down this path, yeah, that's that's
Speaker 1: my hope. And not because you know everyone. I just
Speaker 1: want everyone to be who they are and be who
Speaker 1: you love, and you can still play football and you
Speaker 1: can still be a great player. So I think the
Speaker 1: Michael sam thing, like you said, so long ago, was
Speaker 1: so long ago, even though it was only seven years
Speaker 1: and it's it's the personal aspect that Mark said, Like
Speaker 1: if I check into a hotel with Jet, they're still
Speaker 1: asking me, do you want to full beds? I have
Speaker 1: to come out essentially every single time I go somewhere,
Speaker 1: and I am still scared, even in a big city
Speaker 1: like l A or a place like Tybee Island where
Speaker 1: it's Georgia and it's like Jet and I have to
Speaker 1: be like, well, we got We're with everyone we love,
Speaker 1: but we got to be careful here. And there's that
Speaker 1: that goes through my head every day, and growing up
Speaker 1: it was like if my friends or family find out
Speaker 1: about this, they will not love me. I will not
Speaker 1: have anyone. I will not have my friends, I will
Speaker 1: lose everything. So for him, when he said it was
Speaker 1: agonizing over this, he literally is coming out through the
Speaker 1: public to be like, hey, this is me. I'm still
Speaker 1: going to play football, knowing very well that there's a
Speaker 1: huge population that is essentially going to write him off
Speaker 1: and his career could be affected, his livelihood, his his
Speaker 1: every single thing. And it's so brave to me. It
Speaker 1: is so brave for what he did, and I hope
Speaker 1: that so many other players, if they feel that way,
Speaker 1: feel comfortable, like it's about time. It's like, just let's
Speaker 1: all there's been so much progress, I think, especially in
Speaker 1: this last year, around so many different issues, and I
Speaker 1: think the world, as crazy as it has it has been,
Speaker 1: has also made so many steps in the right direction.
Speaker 1: It's interesting to me. And that's so well said Ricky
Speaker 1: and in your personal stories, Um, I don't know, puts it,
Speaker 1: puts it into perspective, and I'm thinking about the football
Speaker 1: part of it just a little bit. It's sort of fitting.
Speaker 1: He's on the Raiders. No, like no one did more,
Speaker 1: um in terms of like an ownership level or a
Speaker 1: friendship level of like breaking barriers in terms of civil
Speaker 1: rights and players and coaches and black coaches and players,
Speaker 1: and seeing black quarterbacks, like seeing seeing them differently than
Speaker 1: Al Davis. So it's it's kind of cool to see
Speaker 1: Mark Davis Um and John Gruen of course with like
Speaker 1: a quick statement, very supportive and everything. And it totally
Speaker 1: fits um with the other side of like the Raider's
Speaker 1: image everyone thinks of them is kind of like the
Speaker 1: bad boys and all that, But they were pretty ahead
Speaker 1: of things in the sixties and seventies compared to the
Speaker 1: rest of the culture. And they handled that very well.
Speaker 1: They got out there right in front of it. And UM,
Speaker 1: good for the Raiders, great for Carl Nassa and the
Speaker 1: whole movement. Ricky, that's awesome. Good times for Ricky found
Speaker 1: a woman she loves. She had great times to their
Speaker 1: friends and Tybee yep, massive the baby. Alright, good stuff,
Speaker 1: all right, let's move on. Hey. Uh another social news. UM,
Speaker 1: the NFL p A, the Union and UH the NFL
Speaker 1: H jointly agreed to a policy on COVID nineteen protocols
Speaker 1: and the policy, which which applies to training camp and
Speaker 1: the preseason, heavily restricts unvaccinated players while allowing vaccinated players
Speaker 1: to return two near normalcy the way things were before
Speaker 1: coronavirus turn the world upside down. Cole Beasley, as we
Speaker 1: all know UM, is a UM successful wide receiver for
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. He's also very outspoken UH in his
Speaker 1: feelings on the COVID vaccine and he's not for it.
Speaker 1: So after speaking with the NFL and the Union about
Speaker 1: the policy, which he believes to be unfair, he had
Speaker 1: this to say, in what he called the public service
Speaker 1: announcement on social media. I will be outside doing what
Speaker 1: I do. I'll be out in public. If you're scared
Speaker 1: of me, then steer clear or get vaccinated. I may
Speaker 1: die of COVID, but I'd rather die actually living. Mark.
Speaker 1: He also said went on to say, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: take a med take meds for a leg that isn't broken. Um.
Speaker 1: And he goes on and on and on. This is
Speaker 1: a situation. We've been strong in our feelings on this podcast.
Speaker 1: Were we our opinions. That's what we do here. We
Speaker 1: are all pro vaccine. That's why we're all together on
Speaker 1: Tybee Island because we're all vaccinated having fun. Cole Be
Speaker 1: Easley speaks for another segment of the population that's bigger
Speaker 1: than I think people realize. Some people, depending where you
Speaker 1: are in the country. Um. And it's it is an
Speaker 1: issue in the NFL because there is a schism here,
Speaker 1: uh in locker rooms as we turned towards a season
Speaker 1: that they're trying to move away from COVID nineteen. But
Speaker 1: this vaccine situation is causing some ripples. Yeah. I mean
Speaker 1: I think, you know, for for some of the more
Speaker 1: outspoken coaches like a Bruce arians Um, yeah, I think
Speaker 1: it puts them into a tough spot and it is
Speaker 1: a carryover from last year being tough and a lot
Speaker 1: of spots where it is a personal choice. UM. But
Speaker 1: this is a workplace and there are advantages to teams,
Speaker 1: especially in terms of just preparing for games, practicing, UM,
Speaker 1: growing as a team. If everyone gets vaccinated, you don't
Speaker 1: have to continue to do the same rules as last year.
Speaker 1: I mean, the thing is like I when when it's
Speaker 1: all plain out on Twitter and stuff, UM, for me personally,
Speaker 1: I just sort of stay away from it because I
Speaker 1: made my own decision, and Cold Beasley can make his
Speaker 1: own decision too. I don't. I don't really agree with
Speaker 1: some of the way he's sort of framing this in
Speaker 1: terms of like I don't if you know, I don't
Speaker 1: need to get surgery on my leg before something's wrong.
Speaker 1: So this is this is essentially I mean what I
Speaker 1: view it as as a way to protect other people
Speaker 1: and to protect yourself. UM. There are people that question
Speaker 1: vaccines in general. We know that. I wonder if cold
Speaker 1: Beasley's um point here extends to all vaccines or if
Speaker 1: it's you know, suspicion around this one. I really don't
Speaker 1: have a lot of energy to go flame him or
Speaker 1: destroy his decision. But it's complex. Um. I think it's
Speaker 1: a problem for teams. If you've got a big chump
Speaker 1: of chunk of people doing this and you've got reaction
Speaker 1: inside the locker room, um, probably almost a biby reaction.
Speaker 1: Then Karl Nassat, this thing goes on. But that's where
Speaker 1: I leave it. That's where I leave it for the
Speaker 1: the The incentives to get vaccinated in the NFL now
Speaker 1: are huge, and we've seen as mini camps are wrapping up,
Speaker 1: more and more players were getting them. The coaches were
Speaker 1: indicating that that the Steelers mentioned sort of like they
Speaker 1: had the league lead in in vaccination rate, and Tomins
Speaker 1: really pushed it hard. And you get a lot of
Speaker 1: benefits if you can get over the cent number. And
Speaker 1: I think a lot of teams believe before camp and
Speaker 1: before the season, these guys are gonna get vaccinated because
Speaker 1: of some of those incentives. You can't leave town during
Speaker 1: the bye week. You have to go to the facility
Speaker 1: every week, every day during your bye week instead of
Speaker 1: instead of traveling. But for the ones that don't, you know,
Speaker 1: the thing that gets that, I'm with you, Mark, I
Speaker 1: didn't have I felt like I wanted to comment on
Speaker 1: Twitter or care about everyone dunking on him, Like what's
Speaker 1: the point? But I do you know, and I'm feeling
Speaker 1: I heard Baumanti Jones say this is like, at what
Speaker 1: point can we be judgmental? So it's like these players
Speaker 1: who play through torn A c l s and their
Speaker 1: warriors of the game, and we're gonna do everything we
Speaker 1: possibly can to be there for our teammates and to win.
Speaker 1: You're making the choice I might not be available when
Speaker 1: it matters. So that's ultimately what NFL players are gonna do.
Speaker 1: Some players have you know, gotten covid lately, you know,
Speaker 1: Buddha Bagger chasing on Jackson what they missed? MANI camps
Speaker 1: this or that. But you're you're just kind of deciding,
Speaker 1: like it's quite possible. I'm just gonna like let my
Speaker 1: team down in a big spot. And that's part of
Speaker 1: I'm not saying like that that has to be your
Speaker 1: number one concerned, but you're making that decision. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm kind of amazed that that Chris Paul, for instance, like,
Speaker 1: isn't isn't taking worry? I actually think people are being
Speaker 1: quite sensitive to everyone making their own decisions because it's like,
Speaker 1: if you missed the conference championship for any other very
Speaker 1: easy reason that you could have avoided, like people would
Speaker 1: kill him. If people kill Lou Williams for going to
Speaker 1: get hot wings, you know it's to me, it's not
Speaker 1: it's not too different. Um. Major League Baseball is a
Speaker 1: good um case to study on a parallel lane here,
Speaker 1: because they have thirty teams in that league, and twenty
Speaker 1: two of the teams and it's the same percentage that
Speaker 1: they ask you to hit to relax the protocols. And
Speaker 1: at the beginning of June, two of the thirties thirty
Speaker 1: had hit that threshold, and then they checked in on
Speaker 1: it this week and it's still twenty two. And so
Speaker 1: that's stalled out. And I would not be surprised if
Speaker 1: it that turns into a similar percentage um in the
Speaker 1: NFL because to what and I don't agree on any
Speaker 1: level with Cole Beasley, um, But what he did also
Speaker 1: say is that there are a lot more people like
Speaker 1: me in the league than people realize, and he's trying
Speaker 1: to give them a voice. So I think there are
Speaker 1: a lot of Cole Beasley types in the league that
Speaker 1: are not going to get the vaccine. And it's gonna
Speaker 1: make things not just more difficult for them, but their
Speaker 1: teammates beyond the chance of missing games and getting sick.
Speaker 1: All these restrictions that are going to be in place
Speaker 1: all season. How does that, as Mark said, how does
Speaker 1: that not potentially create issues in a locker room during
Speaker 1: a long season? Uh, which is a gauntlet with the practices,
Speaker 1: the games, the rehabs. You finally get a bye week
Speaker 1: and you won't be able to even go home potentially.
Speaker 1: So they always say, like the locker room is what
Speaker 1: they missed the most when they retire, and the two
Speaker 1: locker room experiences in are going to be very different
Speaker 1: for vaccinated unvaccinated. I was thinking about that because some quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: you know, that seems like Lamar, it's not just the
Speaker 1: ones that I've gotten, you know, Lamar's expressed hesitancy. Sam Darneld.
Speaker 1: Of course, there's been a few. It just we'll see.
Speaker 1: I think it will be a little bit of a
Speaker 1: different world in July when the training camp comes. I
Speaker 1: think a lot maybe, but I don't. I don't think
Speaker 1: it was just based around time frame. We'll see, all right.
Speaker 1: In other news, Tom Brady, that's it. That's another name
Speaker 1: in this conversation. Buccaneers quarterback Tom Brady appears on the
Speaker 1: new episode of The Shop Colon Uninterrupted on HBO. I mean,
Speaker 1: in general, with a show title, if you're gonna put
Speaker 1: a colon in there, I mean, it's really got you know,
Speaker 1: it better be there for a reason. It's got to
Speaker 1: be there for a reason. Just call off the shop
Speaker 1: or just called uninterrupted. You called the shop on the
Speaker 1: company they're trying. They're trying to extend the Lebrin movie brand.
Speaker 1: You're right, it's bad. It's not a great bad. I understand.
Speaker 1: I'm just making a statement myself. It's no. Yeah, maybe
Speaker 1: this one has ripples like Cole Beasley. Maybe it's a
Speaker 1: huge news story. But that's how I feel. Get the
Speaker 1: colon's out of there. I couldn't agree more with you,
Speaker 1: by the way. It makes my head spin stuff like that,
Speaker 1: And I don't care about the the corporate interests. It
Speaker 1: does not roll off the tongue. It stops you. It
Speaker 1: doesn't work anyway. So Brady was in the barbershop talking
Speaker 1: to Lebron and the boys, and uh. He was asked
Speaker 1: about last a spring a last March, when he was
Speaker 1: a free agent for the first time in his NFL career,
Speaker 1: and he had this to say about one unnamed NFL
Speaker 1: franchise during his hunt for a new team, one of
Speaker 1: the teams, and they weren't interested at the very end,
Speaker 1: I was thinking, you're sticking with that, alright, So the
Speaker 1: question is why didn't he just say the forty Niners. Uh,
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo, you think that, Yeah, you think that's car
Speaker 1: came to mind, But I think Derek Carr and the
Speaker 1: Raiders popped in my head as well. But Mr Bisky,
Speaker 1: the Bears. The Bears had interest in Tom Brady and
Speaker 1: they stuck with Mitch Drobisky. You know, everyone went hot
Speaker 1: on Jimmy G out of the gate on this and
Speaker 1: you know Tennessee, Um, they flirted a little bit with
Speaker 1: Tom Brady and they stuck with Ryan Tannehill. And maybe
Speaker 1: if you're Tom Brady, you're thinking, what are you doing there?
Speaker 1: Although Tannehill has been good. Um my mind. The other
Speaker 1: one other than Jimmy G that popped up in you
Speaker 1: said car, but and maybe wouldn't use this word, but
Speaker 1: I think it's the one that was the most likely
Speaker 1: to happen, or the closest was the Saints. You know,
Speaker 1: I think Sean Payton really wanted really knocked into we've heard.
Speaker 1: I mean, they looked into it and they were seeing
Speaker 1: if they could forcibly like they went into the last
Speaker 1: offseason thinking I believe that Drew Brees was gonna retire,
Speaker 1: and then it got it got it got a little.
Speaker 1: Harry and Brady probably wouldn't have said that. I don't
Speaker 1: think that's the sliding doors the Saints. They wanted Patrick Wahmes,
Speaker 1: they didn't get him, and they wanted Tom Brady and
Speaker 1: they didn't have the guts to do it. And you know,
Speaker 1: Saints fans are dying that they didn't when the Bucks
Speaker 1: end up winning the Super I think Tom Brady has
Speaker 1: a lot of respect for Drew Brees. I think he
Speaker 1: viewsed him equal in a lot of ways, or close
Speaker 1: to it. So I don't think he would even refer
Speaker 1: to him off handedly or in a joking matter, even
Speaker 1: in the shop good point. I don't think he went
Speaker 1: with Jimmy G there though. I think here's the thing. Well,
Speaker 1: here's the thing. Jimmy G was like a little brother
Speaker 1: in his own locker room, and he was the guy
Speaker 1: that was the source of a lot of drama in
Speaker 1: New England about uh, you know, potentially Belichick and Robert
Speaker 1: Craft coming um two uh not blows, but they had
Speaker 1: a disagreement about who they should go in with that
Speaker 1: whole story. We don't need to go down that route.
Speaker 1: And then you have in San Francisco. This is why
Speaker 1: to me, it's Jimmy j San Francisco. If you think
Speaker 1: where they were last year, they're coming off the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Even though they might have some misgivings about Jimmy G,
Speaker 1: it wasn't to me as clear that they needed to
Speaker 1: get better at the position. I think going into lessons
Speaker 1: and you still felt like Jimmy G could be their
Speaker 1: guy long term. And I under Brady, I think, could
Speaker 1: you know he always wanted to be drafted by the Niners.
Speaker 1: He that's where he grew up. That just seems to
Speaker 1: me what it is. But you know, it's fun. This
Speaker 1: is a good June story. Here's the thing, though, I
Speaker 1: like it stops me what he actual said, Tom Brady,
Speaker 1: how how often does he do you hear him drop
Speaker 1: f bombs? I mean he referred to the player as
Speaker 1: a mother f bomb. Um that's how he's in the shop. Though, Mark,
Speaker 1: I get it. Maybe it's platform is a little different,
Speaker 1: but getting they were whispers that he and Jimmy G
Speaker 1: were not necessarily the best of friends. Um and you
Speaker 1: and you point you painted the scenario of of how
Speaker 1: that all ended. But I feel like he's got You've
Speaker 1: got to, Um, look at what the type of player
Speaker 1: he's talking about. Jimmy G had just been to the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. He's being paid a ton of guaranteed money.
Speaker 1: The Bears couldn't pull this off, and at some point
Speaker 1: where got back. We're comfortable with Mitch Drabinsky, We're sticking
Speaker 1: with him, and Tom Brady has no relationship with Mitch.
Speaker 1: Robisky is probably thinking, what on earth are you doing? Chicago?
Speaker 1: Not right, you know, because I don't think the Bears
Speaker 1: were sold on Mitch Drobiski going into last season. They
Speaker 1: had gotten Nick Foles in the building. They knew they
Speaker 1: probably had messed up, but they were going to give
Speaker 1: him one more chance, and then they quickly benched him.
Speaker 1: I think they were If they could have gotten Tom Brady,
Speaker 1: I think they would have they would have went to that.
Speaker 1: How about this next level? What if it was actually
Speaker 1: about Nick Foles, who he is not. He does not
Speaker 1: like what happened between him and Nick Foles on Super
Speaker 1: Bowl Sunday one. I like a little bit more Drew
Speaker 1: lock up there in Denver because the Broncos, you guys
Speaker 1: thought they did a lot of Broncos fans of my
Speaker 1: mentions thought they had a young franchise. QB. Jimmy Gas.
Speaker 1: Where are you, guys? I don't I don't remember what
Speaker 1: happened about that. I know they're married down. I actually
Speaker 1: think like the roster is great, and they don't want
Speaker 1: to they don't want to hear that now that now
Speaker 1: they've gotten too far the other way. I mean, Jimmy
Speaker 1: G famously only went to San Francisco because the forty
Speaker 1: niner is called wanting Tom Brady, and the Patriots called
Speaker 1: back being like you want Jimmy G. Also, Jimmy G
Speaker 1: a little bit, a little bit hotter than Tom Brady,
Speaker 1: and I think that was on Brady's radar because well, yeah,
Speaker 1: well that's why that's why the holder stuff. I don't
Speaker 1: you can't just say Jimmy G is hotter than Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: That's we have a solid like three minutes of podcast
Speaker 1: content and on this very topic in fifty and I
Speaker 1: think Ricky how about this progress even on this podcast,
Speaker 1: just openly like who's hotter? Like which dude is better looking? Uh?
Speaker 1: Tom Brady or Jimmy G. You you you're a big
Speaker 1: Patriots fan. Where you come down on that? You know?
Speaker 1: I gotta go Tom here. I do love the dark
Speaker 1: haired you know, Jimmy G look um, but something about
Speaker 1: his jawline to me, it's it's TV. It's t V twelve. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I think Jimmy G is a little
Speaker 1: too swarthy from my from my liking nobody plugging on
Speaker 1: those cheekbones. Che are great, But you know I need
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna have a man, it's got to be
Speaker 1: a man, you know. All right, here we go, Ricky,
Speaker 1: just come out of straight. Just now? What just happened there?
Speaker 1: I don't as happening. No, no, no, it's just like
Speaker 1: if I have to, you know, if I have to
Speaker 1: pick right, I don't know. Yeah, I understand where you Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I don't know what half to means. That
Speaker 1: feels sorted, but that seems like a tough situation. All right,
Speaker 1: let's let's move on, all right, rams Co. It's Sean McVeigh.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a love affair there in Los Angeles
Speaker 1: with a new quarterback. Um, and here's what McVeigh had
Speaker 1: to say about Matt Stafford about to start his first
Speaker 1: season with the Rams after that long run with the Lions. Bro,
Speaker 1: who was he talking to? Bro? Let me just let
Speaker 1: me cite this correctly on SI dot com. Bro, This
Speaker 1: dude's a bad m effort. Whatever people say about him,
Speaker 1: as good as it can be. He's even better than
Speaker 1: advertised sizzler. How about that? I mean, the the the
Speaker 1: hype train is rolling. Yea, it is I and I
Speaker 1: know that again, Sean McVeigh keeps saying, this isn't you know,
Speaker 1: these aren't comments as a reflection of Jared Goff. But
Speaker 1: if you're Jared Goff reading this, this is sort of
Speaker 1: like getting into a new relationship listing everything that your
Speaker 1: last partner lacked. And you know, Um, Ricky, I want
Speaker 1: to just play this one little thing. This is what
Speaker 1: of minded me of when I read the quote. Can
Speaker 1: we bring this up? Ricky? Has happened to you about it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: That moment which we you know, which was a truly
Speaker 1: strange moment in our society where Tom Cruise is you know,
Speaker 1: on the Oprah Couch talking about Katie Holmes and he's
Speaker 1: out of his mind. He's just he has fallen deeply
Speaker 1: in love and coaches do this have I that's how
Speaker 1: you read that, Tom Cruise. That's the first thing that
Speaker 1: I thought of was just that there's this level of
Speaker 1: um zeal and fascination between these two. And what Stafford's
Speaker 1: teammates have said about him in Detroit, um it checks out.
Speaker 1: Like t J. Hockinson said, he was the basically the
Speaker 1: best player he's ever been around as a person. So
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot to higher like emotional i
Speaker 1: Q going on with Stafford and the field stuffs all
Speaker 1: there is in heaven. He well. I I thought this
Speaker 1: story is funny just because it's been like a plotline
Speaker 1: this year is Sean McVeigh getting annoyed at reporters who like,
Speaker 1: notice how happy he is. He's just like everyone says,
Speaker 1: I'm in a happier mood this season in off season,
Speaker 1: I am. I think Sean McVeigh just kind of that's
Speaker 1: how he is. It's the off season, he's blowing smoke
Speaker 1: about the quarter. I'm sure he is happy, uh, And
Speaker 1: everyone's taking it as this funny story I I am intrigued, though, Mark,
Speaker 1: about your interpretation of the Tom Cruise moment, because I
Speaker 1: thought that was such a classic moment in the end,
Speaker 1: because it was kind of like, Hey, I'm Tom Cruise.
Speaker 1: I am trying to be as human as possible. How
Speaker 1: do I convey that I actually am in love with
Speaker 1: this other human? Uh in the way that will convince
Speaker 1: the most people? Uh? And then he just like kind
Speaker 1: of went a little too big, like the director needed
Speaker 1: to come in and be like, Okay, let's let's take
Speaker 1: it down a notch here here, Tom, that doesn't quite
Speaker 1: work for us. But it was like a live interview
Speaker 1: show and he had no idea what was happening. I'd
Speaker 1: love to hear Dan's take on this, cub. I think
Speaker 1: that there is a part of that that now was
Speaker 1: that was that marriage completely authentic? I I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't know the answer to that one. But he is
Speaker 1: nothing if not um ceremonial and um built of like
Speaker 1: total internal fire, and he's gonna I think that it
Speaker 1: sort of is Tom Cruise because there's like, if you
Speaker 1: go look up Tom Cruise interviews, there's twenty or thirty
Speaker 1: where he loses his cool. He's got a little cruise
Speaker 1: to him, like endless energy and optimism and in a
Speaker 1: big force of personality. I think, first of all, I
Speaker 1: love Tom Cruise, the actor. I love about fourteen of
Speaker 1: his movies at a high level, So let me say that. Um. Secondly,
Speaker 1: with the Oprah interview, I think he called his crisis
Speaker 1: his crisis management team. Before the interview, He's like, guys,
Speaker 1: we gotta figure out how to make me human? What
Speaker 1: do I do? And then they gave me advice and
Speaker 1: then he went way too broad with it, and then
Speaker 1: he had to call the crisis management team right back
Speaker 1: after the interview, is like, guys, um, they have they
Speaker 1: all know I'm a maniac. What do I do? How
Speaker 1: do we fix this? And the crisis management team was like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna, I'm gonna. I'm gonna. It's like that cartoon
Speaker 1: sounded like the feet running they ran away. I think
Speaker 1: his whole life has been a performance for like thirty
Speaker 1: five forty years, so it's hard to discern what is
Speaker 1: real or not. In other news, it's been about three
Speaker 1: months since the allegations connected to Texans quarterback DeShawn Watson.
Speaker 1: Watson first went public. The Texans will report for training
Speaker 1: camp next month. The NFL has not made any decision
Speaker 1: as of yet on whether Deshaun Watson will be allowed
Speaker 1: to report to training camp or if he'll be put
Speaker 1: on leave. There are twenty two active lawsuits pending against
Speaker 1: Watson connected to alleged misconduct during numerous massage sessions, and
Speaker 1: Watson's attorney, Rusty Harden, told KPRC TV in Houston that
Speaker 1: the NFL has not yet interviewed Watson regarded regarding the allegations. UM,
Speaker 1: this is interesting greg to me because this is a
Speaker 1: Mondo story. This is a top five quarterback in the NFL,
Speaker 1: and the these allegations are big, and they're everywhere, and
Speaker 1: you would think the NFL this is something that and
Speaker 1: maybe there's something we don't know and um, and they're
Speaker 1: kind of keeping things on the down low. But I
Speaker 1: don't know why Rusty Harden wouldn't be honest about it.
Speaker 1: Why hasn't the NFL begun this process of figuring out
Speaker 1: what they're gonna do with the Shawn Watson. I think
Speaker 1: I think they're along the way, But this story, to
Speaker 1: me is interesting that it's so far from being over.
Speaker 1: I guess in these situations they've traditionally talked to the
Speaker 1: accused last, so what you know, talking to Watson, I
Speaker 1: guess would be the last thing that they did. Um,
Speaker 1: this civil case has a while, it doesn't seem like
Speaker 1: there's any settlement coming anytime soon, and the fact they
Speaker 1: haven't talked to Wattson indicates to me that the NFL
Speaker 1: is part of it is possibly even longer and so
Speaker 1: that's just the timeline of it all. Just feels like
Speaker 1: they're not close and they there, there's no real expectation
Speaker 1: to think they will be close, you know, based on
Speaker 1: a football calendar, based on training camp, or based on
Speaker 1: week one or anything, and it just feels like the
Speaker 1: most likely outcome in the short term is continued uncertainty
Speaker 1: for a while like that there just won't be an
Speaker 1: answer and they'll put them on some list or whatever
Speaker 1: they decide to do. But that's it. Yeah, Commissioner's exempt
Speaker 1: list would be you know, Yeah, there's different ways to
Speaker 1: do it, so that I'm not that interesting that but
Speaker 1: it just doesn't even seem like it's close. It just
Speaker 1: doesn't seem like it's something that doesn't that feel like
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be the fine they would say it wouldn't
Speaker 1: be their final thing, you know, it's just a holding pattern.
Speaker 1: Just doesn't to me that I don't that's I don't
Speaker 1: know who who's happy with that ending other than the
Speaker 1: NFL making this guy disappear for a while. Well, that's
Speaker 1: also training camp two. I think it's a good point, Dan,
Speaker 1: because I think week one, when he actually is getting
Speaker 1: paid real money, I mean training camp, you're not getting
Speaker 1: paid money really, Um, you might be onto something that
Speaker 1: That's where the money aspect of it also really comes
Speaker 1: into play. And the Texans they are going to have
Speaker 1: their feelings about that in the in the NFL might
Speaker 1: two and the battle might be brewing there too. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's complex. Wasn't it always though a long shot that
Speaker 1: a case like this was gonna have a full robust
Speaker 1: investigation completed by July just because training camp needs to start.
Speaker 1: You're right, you know, I thought there was a chance
Speaker 1: there might be a settlement and all that and then
Speaker 1: I'll move along. Um, but it doesn't seem like it.
Speaker 1: I mean, he is, yes, he is denied wrongdoing in
Speaker 1: all these cases. There's so I just my my whole
Speaker 1: point is if you just take him off the field,
Speaker 1: because it's an ugly thing. And then he misses a season. Um,
Speaker 1: you can understand from his perspective why he would be
Speaker 1: upset that you're you're benching me in in the middle
Speaker 1: of my prime. I didn't, according to him, I didn't
Speaker 1: do anything. Um. But yes, there's a there's a messiness
Speaker 1: to this. I guess the other the other way to
Speaker 1: look at it is you let him play as the
Speaker 1: legal process continues to play out, and then maybe this
Speaker 1: gets settled down the line ahead of maybe next season.
Speaker 1: But I understand why that isn't necessarily the prudent way
Speaker 1: to go on this because these allegations are very serious.
Speaker 1: But the other note, he also doesn't want to play
Speaker 1: for the Texans, So there are like multiple like that ship, right,
Speaker 1: that ship has to have sailed at least for one, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, he doesn't have any trade value right now, right,
Speaker 1: But the Texans I think are also. I think that's
Speaker 1: at this point there that's mutual and it would be
Speaker 1: shocking in any scenario. I think if he ever put
Speaker 1: on their uniforming. M hmmm, we'll see about that. That's
Speaker 1: It's wow. What a situation, all right. In other news,
Speaker 1: Blotterer time, remember the college newspapers. Always the best part
Speaker 1: of any university or college uh newspaper was the blotterer.
Speaker 1: You could see who got arrested for you know, peeing
Speaker 1: in the quad, not even arrested. You would just get
Speaker 1: like sited by campus police. But your name ends up
Speaker 1: in the blotterer on the on the news. That happened
Speaker 1: to Greg many times. Down in New Orleans. He had
Speaker 1: a pretty uh you know, hazy dark period down there.
Speaker 1: Man found in diaper in Orleans Paris prison. I mean,
Speaker 1: that wasn't in the in this campus newspaper. That was.
Speaker 1: I kept my eyes open. One of my one of
Speaker 1: my friends slept. I was impressed in a in a
Speaker 1: thank you know, a room full of thirty thirty people. Um. Anyway,
Speaker 1: this is not good news for the chiefs defensive end.
Speaker 1: Frank Clark arrested Sunday night in Los Angeles for felony
Speaker 1: a legal possession of a firearm. According to a police report,
Speaker 1: Clark had an oozy in a Duffel bag in his stu.
Speaker 1: I mean, what is he a bad guy in an
Speaker 1: eighties action movie? What do you gotta louzy for? Listen?
Speaker 1: Call me out of touch or not not connected to
Speaker 1: what's going on with Frank Clark in his life? Well,
Speaker 1: do you guys know what I mean? I do, and
Speaker 1: I I mean he The thing that's crazy, though, is
Speaker 1: since this story came out, they were they looked around
Speaker 1: and realized he had another gun arrest in March. So
Speaker 1: he said to um, and there's been a Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's that time a season, you know, year where you
Speaker 1: just hope where you don't want any of these players
Speaker 1: to pop up. But this was like the first the
Speaker 1: first week of the off season basically, and this popped
Speaker 1: up for him. And then Zavin Collins of the Cardinals
Speaker 1: had one too. But yeah, Clark having two charges, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know if that's something the NFL,
Speaker 1: like one thing is like now, this this could be
Speaker 1: just nonsense, but his attorney says that the sudden machine
Speaker 1: gun UM is the property of Clark's bodyguard. But I
Speaker 1: am with you, din Like, when I read this headline
Speaker 1: cops say NFL star had oozy and Lambeau suv, It's
Speaker 1: like people are living different lives that will never be
Speaker 1: written about us ever. We will never be caught in
Speaker 1: a situation like that. And I don't know what an
Speaker 1: UZI is needed for at this point either, but is
Speaker 1: only needed if you're going to the top of the
Speaker 1: Nagatami tower or whatever in Century City. Uh, in die
Speaker 1: Hard and you're trying to kill Bruce Willis. So we
Speaker 1: don't need that in our in our car coun control.
Speaker 1: Take it off the list. What else? What other social
Speaker 1: issue do we want to hit on before the all right? Uh?
Speaker 1: And finally in the news forty nine seconds lost. I just,
Speaker 1: you know, whenever I could do that to give Greg
Speaker 1: a little tweak, I like it. That's Eli Manning to
Speaker 1: Oxco Burris and Joe Buck with a very so so call.
Speaker 1: Super Bowl forty two. Uh, the undefeated Patriots season goes
Speaker 1: by the boards. Eli Manning retired a couple of years
Speaker 1: back after the twenty nineteen season. Now, the forty year
Speaker 1: old has rejoined the Giants Greggy. He's back at the
Speaker 1: organization in a business operations and fan engagement role. He
Speaker 1: will also work on original content development, which includes a
Speaker 1: new lifestyle series that premieres Greg this fall. You don't
Speaker 1: have to wait until the comer. Is it kind of
Speaker 1: be on like Local in New York. I think it
Speaker 1: will be simulcast on all the major networks I would assume,
Speaker 1: and all the major streaming platforms. I mean, I find
Speaker 1: Eli Manning's Twitter and social and just like TV presence, um,
Speaker 1: you know, quite likable, quite endearing. I like him more
Speaker 1: than Payton. He doesn't seem to be trying as hard.
Speaker 1: He is sneakily caught up as like um the Manning
Speaker 1: that it would always drive West crazy because people would
Speaker 1: act like Peyton Manning was so funny because he was
Speaker 1: an athlete, but really it was just like a low
Speaker 1: bar like Eli, I isn't trying this hard, and I
Speaker 1: think he's clearing the bar. I I like it. I
Speaker 1: don't have supported You're all grown up. I'm really I'm
Speaker 1: really taken by that. I don't know Greg, like how
Speaker 1: how you like how many negative feelings could be stirred
Speaker 1: up by him taking a position with the team, like
Speaker 1: thousands of players do the same sort of thing. Let's
Speaker 1: see if you do. I've noticed him on Twitter and stuff.
Speaker 1: He has a little funny comment you know, he's he's
Speaker 1: again Mark before you just like rush us Off is
Speaker 1: some you know, little paycheck just to get him at
Speaker 1: the old timer's day or whatever it is. Um he
Speaker 1: is uh in a business operations and fan engagement role,
Speaker 1: and he also will work on original content development, including
Speaker 1: a new lifestyle lifestyle series that premieres this fall. This
Speaker 1: is not some hollow title. This is a guy that's
Speaker 1: him back to work. I don't doubt that lifestyle. That's
Speaker 1: the only thing to me if the show takes off.
Speaker 1: But are you are you telling you think he's gonna
Speaker 1: go spend like fifteen hours a week with fans? I
Speaker 1: don't think. What is he doing with the lifestyle series?
Speaker 1: So he's building up. I'm sure trailer is going to
Speaker 1: drop at some point this summer day. We gotta figure
Speaker 1: it out. Yeah, again, on it all right, that's what's
Speaker 1: happening in the news. Do we want to touch on
Speaker 1: anything else? No, I'm taking off so I'll see you
Speaker 1: guys in the morning to Massachusetts for a week and
Speaker 1: a half. So you're getting back on the Eastern coast
Speaker 1: with me. I like, I know, it was a short
Speaker 1: it's a short trip back here in l A. So
Speaker 1: you guys will will carry the load here for the
Speaker 1: for the show. And you're doing another podcast, right, you're
Speaker 1: doing now you're doing a TV show on Friday. I
Speaker 1: don't know talk about it, but we have some conversations
Speaker 1: to have privately, but we do. The TV show is
Speaker 1: coming back Friday with very special guests and yes, um
Speaker 1: second runner up in the Tybee Cornhole Tournament Colleen Wolf
Speaker 1: filling in. So that's gonna be a fun show. Are
Speaker 1: you going to get big weekend for Colleen and John?
Speaker 1: You know they were they were stars or very nice performance,
Speaker 1: but that's there every weekend. You know there you know
Speaker 1: they got the two dogs. But otherwise it's like, all right,
Speaker 1: where are we going to have fun this weekend? Now?
Speaker 1: What's to do? So yeah, they're fine, what do we
Speaker 1: can do for fun after that? Well? Not the way
Speaker 1: it is here? I mean with your family, what do
Speaker 1: you well, there's a lot of responsibilities, you know, Greg
Speaker 1: with the boys, many tasks tracking we're Gonzo and Colleen
Speaker 1: were by the time that we left. I think a
Speaker 1: detox wouldn't be the worst thing to do for a
Speaker 1: couple of days on some level, in whatever form that
Speaker 1: would fit them. Yeah, that would that would help? All right,
Speaker 1: good stuff, So yes, I think we'll be back with
Speaker 1: another pod this week. The TV shows back on Friday, UM,
Speaker 1: and thank you to everyone, and we're sorry We kind
Speaker 1: of had to keep it under our hat the whole
Speaker 1: Tybee Island adventure. We would have loved to hang out
Speaker 1: with anybody that wanted to shoot down there. I know,
Speaker 1: I know if West was with us, he would have
Speaker 1: been totally fine with it, But we wanted to keep
Speaker 1: it a little more uh intimate. Uh, And that's why
Speaker 1: we kind of didn't mention anything. But we went. We
Speaker 1: enjoyed it, we loved it. Now we're back and uh,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna enjoy the rest of the summer. And that's
Speaker 1: it for now. This is Dan Answer signing up for
Speaker 1: a quiet storm the Old Boss and Ricky Hollywood behind
Speaker 1: the Virtual Glass until Thursday. Either clock s