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Speaker 1: hear this on the podcast, tonight is Thursday evening, there

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Speaker 1: on the speaker ballot this tenth defeat. Jefferies had two twelve,

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Speaker 1: for Representative Hearn and one person voted present. So you

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Speaker 1: do those numbers, that's twenty one that are outside of

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Speaker 1: McCarthy and Jeffries. What this means is the longest race

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Speaker 1: This is a question that is gonna be asked. I

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Speaker 1: coming in talking to these you know, many of these

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Speaker 1: Let me also say I'm okay with this happening and

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Speaker 1: really are you're making things better? You're calling, as a Republican,

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Speaker 1: your fellow Republicans domestic terrorists. You're calling them insurrectionists. You're

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Speaker 1: saying that they are literally the same as a terrorist.

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Speaker 1: That's a problem. I think that was a very stupid

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Speaker 1: you to hear what he said. He said, one way

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Speaker 1: let me explain what he means by that. He said,

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Speaker 1: these conversations have now started behind the scenes. You think

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Speaker 1: That's basically what's happening. We cannot let the terrorists win.

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Speaker 1: But Jake, that is where we are right now. Kevin

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Speaker 1: We're talking about an actual day in the life of Congress.

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Speaker 1: You're not being serious, And that's what this is about.

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Speaker 1: This is when it gets un serious. If you're laughing

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Speaker 1: casting my vote for Kevin Hearne, and I hope you

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Speaker 1: I'll throw another random name out there. This is this

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Speaker 1: I've already said I'd support Kevin McCarthy. Don't nominate me

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Speaker 1: not serious. Now. The media is also want to wanting

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Speaker 1: to see who this person is though, who Rocana, the

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Speaker 1: Is there? Give me the name? And that's part of

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Speaker 1: That's when it's not a serious name that you're nominating.

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