1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:08,799 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Brady Quinn Fox Sports College Football, NFL studio 3 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: and game analyst, and he is one of the co 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: hosts Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, the show 5 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: that precedes Hours with LeVar Arrington and Jonas Knox. You 6 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: can catch them on Fox Sports Radio weekdays six to 7 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: nine am Eastern. Leading right into our program, Brady joins 8 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: us now from Los Angeles. He'll be in the Fox Studios, 9 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: not on the road this week. Brady, good morning. How's morale? 10 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: Morale is fantastic, although I'm a little frustrated. You know 11 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: that check swing last Nimes cost the series. Yeah, you 12 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: with your legendary baseball career, I'm sure that you knew 13 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: the rule of the check swing. Ring. Hey, we did 14 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 1: win a state championship in Division one. They're at Dublin 15 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: coffin my sophomore year. But no, it was a bad call. 16 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: I think there's some Dodgers fans who feel like this 17 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: happened earlier in the season. Tim, I believe in this 18 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: in the series, so they it's a little bit of payback. 19 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: But you know, if I always feel like if you're 20 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: going to chalk it up to one thing. You're kind 21 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: of missing the point. You obviously had other opportunities throughout 22 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: the course of the game. Yeah, the Giants got shut 23 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: down offensively the entire series, and that should be the 24 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: bigger picture. They scored ten runs in five games, and 25 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 1: you know, the Dodgers did what they needed to do 26 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: just enough to squeeze this. Olum. Did you watch Tom 27 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: Brady and the Buccaneers last night? Of course? Yeah. I 28 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 1: mean you have a chance to watch greatness every time 29 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,839 Speaker 1: he steps out in the field. Of course I was watching, okay, 30 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: but it looked like they did everything. They should have 31 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 1: won that game by twenty eight points something like that. Yeah, 32 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: you allow the Eagles to kind of sneak back in. 33 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: Any concerns there, well, you've got concerns about more. I 34 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: think maybe they got conservative in the second half with 35 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: some of the play calling. That's a part of it. 36 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: But I think defensively, yeah, I mean, it's been well 37 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: documented that the Bucks secondary is banged up. That's a 38 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: pressure point teams are going to keep pushing their finger on. 39 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: And I think the other thing you're starting to see 40 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: two is more mobile quarterbacks like Jalen Hurts where you 41 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 1: can take off and run or extend plays. That's the 42 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 1: biggest thing that I think where defenses are at a disadvantage. 43 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: It's just it's hard to replicate that in practice. It's 44 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: hard to find someone who's going to be able to 45 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: do what Jalen Hurts can do or any other quarterback 46 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: that falls in that category at Kyler Murray, and so 47 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: when you see it in live game reps, it's just 48 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: it's hard to be able to stop those plays. Or 49 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: you know, the way we used to talk about it 50 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: while in Seattle with Russell Wilson is when that first 51 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: play breaks down, a new play starts, and understanding the 52 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: scramble rules and understanding that kind of chemistry you have 53 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: with your quarterback, it's tough for any defense to stop. 54 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: They're already reactive to begin with. And then you put 55 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: you in a crazy play where guys scrambling around playing 56 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: backyard football, it's even tougher to stop. But you're going 57 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: to have probably a record number of quarterbacks rush for 58 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: at least five hundred yards this year. How dangerous is 59 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: I mean? I know it's strategy, but seventeen games trying 60 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: to keep your not everybody can slide properly. Not everybody 61 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: gets out of bounds the right way. How concerned would 62 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: you be that there is this growing trend with these 63 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: younger quarterbacks. But is that a good thing? Well? I 64 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 1: think it's a it's a good thing if you're a 65 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: fan of fantasy or offensive football, because I think it 66 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 1: just puts more pressure on defenses and it should should 67 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: result in more points being scored. I think where your 68 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: concern is a long term. Are we ever going to see, 69 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: you know, a quarterback do what Tom Brady has done 70 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: that's going to play the game that way? I would 71 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: venture to say no. So, you know, you hear guys 72 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: like Aaron Rodgers who go up and talk to Joe 73 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: Burrow after the game and say get down, protect yourself, 74 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: like the pocket, that's your safe haven. And that's where 75 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: I think it's not that these players can't be successful 76 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: doing it for a period of time. It's that you 77 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: almost have to be kind of like Lebron where early 78 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: on his career, you know, he's using his athleticism and 79 00:03:56,680 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 1: how dynamic he is and all those freakish talents, and 80 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: then as he got older, he sort of developed more 81 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: on the part of his game where now we could 82 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: play down the post if he needs to. His outside 83 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: shooting game as midgrind shot, all those things. It's the 84 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: same thing as a quarterback is gonna be running a 85 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: lot early. You just have to develop that ability to 86 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: use it when you have to, but only as a 87 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: last resort later in your career because those hits add 88 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: up on But can Lamar Jackson do that? Let's say 89 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: five years from now when we're assessing Lamar Jackson, is 90 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: he still putting pressure on the defenses rushing for eight 91 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: hundred nine hundred thousand yards. I don't know that he's 92 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 1: gonna have to at that point. I mean, I think 93 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: you've already seen him this year start to take off 94 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: and take that next steps as a passer, you know, 95 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 1: as a pocket passer. And I think that lot has 96 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: been made about you know, him as a passer, which 97 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: we all knew when he came into the league. There's 98 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: gonna be a growth curve. But the other thing you 99 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: have to, like look at is who he's throwing to. 100 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 1: I think you look at Marquis Brown for example, or 101 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown. He's continually come on it and gotten better too. 102 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: I think what he's had out around him has has 103 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 1: grown in hurd and got better at their craft, so 104 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 1: that's played just as big of a part of role 105 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: in his development as a passer. To answer your question, No, 106 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna need to do that at 107 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 1: that point time in his career down the road. But 108 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 1: I think he's still going to scare you with it. 109 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 1: You know, he's still gonna do it five to six 110 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: seven times a game enough to make you have to 111 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: account for him. Josh Allen, you're comfortable with him running 112 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: the way he runs because he takes on contact. I 113 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: mean I'm comfortable now. I don't know if I'm comfortable 114 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: two years from now, you know, And watching him hurdle guys, 115 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 1: I mean I thought, I mean, I'd pull my growing 116 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 1: at this point in time if I get my leg 117 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 1: spread apart too far. So watching him do that, I'm saying, 118 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: it's just it's not worth the risk. And I think 119 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: it's hard to teach guys that until they go through 120 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: an injury. But you know, I go and say that, 121 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: and then you watch Joe Burrow last week, who scrambles 122 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: outside the pockets running down field and he hands up, 123 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: you know, taking a shot or unnecessary hit that he 124 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: didn't need to take and he just tore his acl 125 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: So I think the hard thing and not to go 126 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: back to Lamar. But even talking about Josh Allen is 127 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: trying to change that mentality in your head, you know, 128 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: because when you get out there, especially as you're as 129 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: big as Josh Allen is, or you've been as successful 130 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 1: as Lamar Jackson as a making guys miss, you're not 131 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: thinking about any consequences or the downside risk of it. 132 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 1: It's only so after the fact you go, oh, maybe 133 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: I need to change my game a little bit, and 134 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: then you have to ask yourself, are they going to 135 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: be the same player if they take that out of 136 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 1: their game? Maybe not talking to Brady Quinn, Fox Sports 137 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: College Football and NFL studio and game analyst, I don't 138 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: know what happened. Maybe Jimmy Johnson opened the door this 139 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: weekend on Fox Sports The Pregame Show where he said 140 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: he would take Justin Herbert over Patrick Mahomes, and then 141 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 1: all of a sudden it became a topic of conversation 142 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: this week on the different shows. I'll put that question 143 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: to you, would you take Justin Herbert over Patrick Mahomes 144 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: Right now? I wouldn't right now. I think Patrick has 145 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: already been proven in this league and the types of 146 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: when I look at the two as passers, okay, not throwers, 147 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 1: passers meaning the ability to articulate their arm to make 148 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: whatever throw they need to or shape a throw to 149 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: whatever way they need to. I think Patrick is still 150 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: more talented in that respect. Now, don't get me wrong, 151 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert has a howitzer for an arm, and his 152 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: accuracy downfield, especially like fifteen yards plus outside the numbers, 153 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: it might be the best in the league right now. 154 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,559 Speaker 1: But as far as the touch throws and shaping throws 155 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: and articulating his arm, he doesn't have that quite as 156 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: much as Patrick does. And so I think you could 157 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: put Patrick on a bunch of different teams in the 158 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: NFL and he could probably survive and people to split 159 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: the football out. I think Justin found himself in a 160 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: really good situation that staff that's playing to his strengths. 161 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: But last year you saw that. In this year, their 162 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: offensive line play doesn't get enough credit or Sean Slater's studs, 163 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of those working parts. You know, 164 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: Mahomes is playing for a team right now that's got 165 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: a defense that's giving up, you know, yards per play 166 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: equivalent to the greatest show on turf. I mean literally, 167 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: they're giving up seven point one yards per play the 168 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: Rams back in the day, I used to get seven 169 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: yards per play. So it's like every time the Chiefs 170 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: walk on the field, they're playing the greatest show on turf. 171 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: It's tough to go up that against that as a quarterback. 172 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: But I don't know how this became open season on 173 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes because it feels like that like the Chiefs 174 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: are vulnerable. It just feels like, you know, maybe people 175 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: should realize what Patrick Mahomes has been trying to keep 176 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: together there because the Chiefs haven't had an impressive defense. 177 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: It's just that offense kind of overshadows and cleans up 178 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 1: all the blemishes here. But when I and I love 179 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert, he's just not at Patrick Mahomes's level right now. 180 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: And that's yeah, yeah, it's not a knock on him. 181 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: If I said you can have Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes, 182 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: who are you taking Gosh? I mean, I probably still 183 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: take Patrick, but that one's closer and closer being pretty 184 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: questionable because because Josh does have those traits of being 185 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: able to throw a little bit side arm, being able 186 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: to kind of roll to his left and just kind 187 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: of twist his upper body to make those throws. And 188 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: I think he's more effective as a runner. So you know, 189 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: that's a tough one because I think we've seen Josh 190 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: slowly kind of build to this where right now you'd 191 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: probably say he's the MVP of the league away he's played, 192 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: or Tom Brady, or Tom Brady he said he could, 193 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: which I mean, he said he can play another ten years, 194 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: he said he probably wouldn't. Why why would Brady not continue? 195 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 1: Now he says he he won't spend time with his 196 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: family and all those things. I understand that, right, but 197 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: right do you think he could play five till he's fifty? 198 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: I don't know why you think he couldn't. I mean, 199 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: one of the most impressive things was when you go 200 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: back and look at that first touchdown past Antonio Brown, 201 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: just the way he still slides and moves in the 202 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: pocket like that's all he needs to do. I remember 203 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: playing for Jim Zorn and him saying to me, He's like, 204 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: you don't have to be the fastest or quickest guy 205 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: in the pocket. You just have to be sudden, and 206 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: it reminds me of like all those older boxers that 207 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: they don't have like what they used to have as 208 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 1: far as quickness the ability to move, but they just 209 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 1: have to be sudden enough to make a guy in 210 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: this and then deliver the throw. And so he still 211 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: got that. I think if he still has the old 212 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 1: line and the situation of playmakers around him like he has, yeah, 213 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: he could play as long as he needs to. And 214 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe there's something that TV twelfth method, 215 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: like maybe weed give more credit to Alex Guerrero and 216 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: they're the people who are involved, because it seems to 217 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: be working for everyone who works with those guys. Well, 218 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: maybe you were too muscle bound when you worked out 219 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: for John Gruden coming out of Notre Dame. I remember 220 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: you telling us the story. This is like five years ago, 221 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: but yeah, he thought you were too muscle bound. He 222 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: was very enamored with my traps at that point, which 223 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: I'm not sure, we're not sure. Why did you comfortable? 224 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:54,839 Speaker 1: Did he say, hey, yeah, he had a laser pointer. 225 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: We had a laser pointer. So he was up there 226 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: and we were going through it and he was like 227 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 1: pointed out and the weird thing was is like I 228 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: obviously see myself about a shirt on often, but I 229 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: never felt more awkward or uncomfortable sitting in that moment. 230 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: But he's like using a laser point or to point out, wait, 231 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: he's got a picture of you with your shirt on. 232 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: It was well, it was from the combine, you know, 233 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: so you go up there and your skippies and you know, 234 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 1: they take a photo of you, which, like Tom Brady's 235 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: is probably the most famous, like everyone's seen, and then 236 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: one of me. You know, at that point, you know, 237 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: I obviously worked out hard. You know, I got two 238 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: parents who I got great genetics, so it comes maybe 239 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: a little easier for me. But he's pointing all this 240 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 1: stuff out. He was like, I don't need a guy 241 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: who looks like this and all this stuff. And then 242 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,079 Speaker 1: you know, he showed another quarterback who tended to be 243 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: a little heavier set. He's like, I don't want this either, 244 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 1: And then he showed another quarterback. He's like, I want 245 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: this guy. This guy looks like I can go out 246 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: and have a beer with him. And I was just like, 247 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: all right, like I'm not sure what you want me 248 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: to say to this. So I mean we want to 249 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 1: go grab a beer now, like, look, we're gonna go work, 250 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: Like what do we do? So who were those other two? Quarterback? 251 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,959 Speaker 1: Um JaMarcus Russell was the other one who obviously you 252 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: know I trained with JaMarcus pre draft and you know, 253 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:12,439 Speaker 1: I'll tell you this much. I mean he was uber talented. 254 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: You know when you look at Josh Allen justin Herbert 255 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: patch moms, all the arms, strong arms. I've never seen 256 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: an arm like his, Like I remember it was me 257 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: and him who went in the first round. I was. 258 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: I was watching him from I was like, well, good god, 259 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: he's gonna go before me. I don't have the appelate 260 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: to throw a ball like that. But he was, you know, 261 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 1: he didn't work out very hard. I mean I was 262 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 1: there often. I'd trust me, if he would have been there, 263 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: I would have seen him. And I very rarely ever 264 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 1: saw him there in preparation for all of that m 265 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: but he was the one quarterback man. Charlie Frye was 266 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: the other quarterback. Didn't Gruden draft Charlie Frye. I can't 267 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: recall if he drift well, I don't know. Charlie got 268 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: drafted to Cleveland, but Bruce Kratkowski, So Bruce Kurkowski was on. 269 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: So this was all like a film like like we 270 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: were watching like a cut up he had and it 271 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: opened up with like him showing some cheerleaders or dancing, 272 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: and I was like, what the hell is this? And 273 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: then he had like a cheetah that was like jumping 274 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: on a gazelle and like tearing it apart. And I 275 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: was like, all right, that's kind of cool. Still don't 276 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: know what this 's doing football, And then he kind 277 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: of went through the whole combine photos and then he 278 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: started showing some like he showed some bad plays or 279 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: like Bruce Kurkowski and like, you know what would be 280 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: looking at hearing all the stuff and this is what 281 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: I need. And then he started going through like the 282 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: college tape. But it was like he was famous for that. 283 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: You know, he's famous for the film sessions, all the cutups. 284 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 1: So but that was back when he was the head 285 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: coach at Tampa. Like your head has to be spinning, 286 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: like you're thinking, late, what am I getting myself? Like 287 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: what what does he think I'm any good? Well, I 288 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 1: mean he talks, he talks you up like we were 289 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: out there because then he brought in two wide receivers 290 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: and then I had a wide receiver and running back 291 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: who were catching for me before that workout, And so 292 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: he would talk you up and he was due the 293 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 1: whole time doing drills and he was a ton of 294 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: fun to work with. But you know, and after you 295 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: kind of put your arm around, he's like, oh, I'm 296 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: gonna come up and draft your word, going to come 297 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: get you all this stuff, and you don't know, you've 298 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: never been through it before. So you know, the cynic 299 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: in me is like, yeah, okay, Like well, we'll see 300 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: when that day comes. But the other side of me 301 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: were like, how cool would that be? You get to 302 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: play for this guy every single day? And obviously with 303 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: everything's come out of late, you know, it's it's sad 304 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: to see that behind closed doors, that's how he's talk 305 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: or that's how he was handling things. But you know, again, 306 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: I mean that whole that whole experience was just I 307 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: guess headspinning is one of those is the best way 308 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: to put it before I let you go. This Ocloma 309 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: situation is really interesting with Spencer Rattler, who a lot 310 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: of people thought He'sman Trophy, And you know, my point was, 311 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: maybe first overall pick right. Yeah, And I kept saying, 312 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: watch him play a game. Don't watch the highlights, because 313 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: he is a highlight, but watch him. He got bench 314 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: last year and he's not consistent, and you know, you 315 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: got Lincoln Riley. He can cover up a lot of things. Now, 316 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: you've got a situation where if you're Spencer Rattler and 317 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: you look and you see the future is out there 318 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: on the field and it's not you, what do you 319 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: do if you're Spencer Rattler at Oklahoma? It's such a 320 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: tough decision because if he feels like he's not going 321 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: to be the guy and there's still so much football 322 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: left he played, Like, I think the biggest mistake you 323 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: can make right now is making an irrational decision and 324 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: deciding to transfer right away. Like we've already seen that 325 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: in certain cases, Like we've already seen guys who have 326 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: done that this season, And I think that's a bad 327 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: look because one, you don't know if Caleb Williams is 328 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: athletic as he is, If he gets injured, your team 329 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: needs you, you're right back in there. So that's the 330 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: first thing. The next thing is is you know he's 331 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: draft eligible, Like does he look at this quarterback class 332 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: and go, I'm going to prove the people that like, yeah, 333 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: I haven't played my best. Necessarily, I'm not at my best, 334 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: but they can draft me and they can help me 335 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: get there. Because he is talented. I mean, no one's 336 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: going to deny his arm strength, ability to throw off platform, 337 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: all those things. But he needs a lot of experience 338 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: and more work. He could look at other situations that 339 00:15:58,040 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: are out there right now. You know, he might be 340 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: at a place like Georgia and say, I'd like to 341 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: go in there behind that offensive line with those playmakers, 342 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: you know, not have to worry about winning a shootout 343 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: with that defense, and go play there, or go play 344 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: anywhere else and try to transfer, right, That's always a 345 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: part of it. My concern is that the parents direct 346 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: because at this stage, like even though you're a young 347 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: man and you have your desires and goals and what 348 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: you want to do, the parents sometimes start to lean 349 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: in on that too, and they start to shape and 350 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: that can be good and bad. And so look, I 351 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: don't know his personal situation with his family, but that 352 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: that also is a factor in all of this, and 353 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: that's where I wonder, you know, if the parents, especially 354 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: just having coach high school kids now, knowing how overbearing 355 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: they can be if they start weighing in on that. 356 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: You know, hey, let's get somewhere else, right now, let's 357 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: go somewhere else. Let's move on. This isn't a good 358 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: place for you. That's the hard thing because for the 359 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: young man, he's always identified himself as a quarterback, and 360 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: when that's taken away from you you get to put 361 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: on the bench, it shocks you. I mean, it really 362 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: wrecks your entire world. And so you could be in 363 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: a tough head space and you can let anyone talk 364 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: you into anything at that point in time. So hopefully 365 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,959 Speaker 1: he can let his emotions pass and they can get 366 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: kind of some more clarity of what their point is 367 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,199 Speaker 1: moving forward, depending on how the season goes, have a 368 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 1: great weekend. Tell the guys we said allow and have fun. 369 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: Thank you, Brady. We'll talk to you to thank you. 370 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan 371 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific 372 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeart Radio wapp. Let's 373 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: bring in Harold Reynolds, who so joining US Major League 374 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: Baseball Network analyst. Game one of the Alcs, Red Sox 375 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: and Astros begins tonight on Fox. You can watch Harold 376 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 1: before and after every game on MLB Networks MLB Tonight. 377 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: All right, let's start with the check swing. Give me 378 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: what is the ruling on the check swing and what 379 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 1: did you think about the call? Well, I didn't think 380 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 1: it was a good call. I think he missed it. 381 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: The ruling, though, is that's non reviewable. And we've come 382 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: across a few players in baseball where they don't get reviewed. 383 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: I think at this point in time, reviews should be 384 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 1: for everything out there because you don't have conversations like this, 385 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: and so I know they continue to grow and change. 386 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: We'll see if that happens with this. But how do 387 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: you review it? Is it the umpires review it? Or 388 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: do I have to have a challenge flag to do this? 389 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 1: Is there an eye in the sky that helps these 390 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: umpires and says you guys need to check this a 391 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:29,880 Speaker 1: home office like you have with the NFL. Well, most 392 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: reviews have come out in New York. Anyway, in pace 393 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: of the game, you may have to have somebody designated 394 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 1: at the stadium. You can't take three minutes in the 395 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: middle of a bat to the call, put your headset on. Okay, 396 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: you didn't go Now your picture's ice the hitter. It's 397 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: different than any other sports, so you gotta keep it moving. 398 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: And one of the things they've done dan real quick 399 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: with replay is no manager's got twenty seconds to challenge 400 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: something on the field and then they got didn't They 401 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: can start the process, but I think we got to 402 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: make it more like real time, not oh I saw something, 403 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: now I review it. That's not right either. The Dodgers 404 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: advanced because depth, I mean we saw it all. Who 405 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: can go get Max Scherzer, who can take a twenty 406 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: game winner and say, you know what, we're gonna start 407 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: with an opener. I mean, the depth of this team 408 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: is so deep. So I think that's why they will 409 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: continue to go through. Now seven games really shows the 410 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 1: depth of this club. Mookie Bets once again, like Mookie Bets, 411 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: sometimes you forget and then Lukie Bets tabshow on the 412 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: shoulder and says, don't forget. Like how good is Mookie Bets. 413 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: He's one of the greades of all time. I mean 414 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 1: he does something every game. The other night he made 415 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: the spin around throw and said, oh, maw, let's vital Clemente. 416 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: You know, the last night he gets four hits. I 417 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:57,959 Speaker 1: really think him playing in Boston and that pressure cooker 418 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: as a young player helped tell slow the game down 419 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 1: and understand the moments. Watching him do three game interviews yesterday, 420 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 1: he acted as if it was a regular season game 421 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: that only comes with experience. But I go back to 422 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: the Red Sox when they got rid of him, did 423 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 1: they make the right move? I mean, here they are 424 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 1: in the ALCS. They saved a lot of money. Was 425 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: it the right move for the Red Sox? Well, I 426 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: think the Red Sox kind of wanted to save him 427 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: and lock him up. I mean, they offered him a 428 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 1: pretty good deal. But I think Mookie really wanted to 429 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: go at the end of the day. As we look 430 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: back now what three years removed. That was more Mookie's 431 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: decision than the Red Sox. I think he wanted to 432 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: go somewhere else. Scherzer coming out of the bullpen like 433 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 1: I don't think he came charging out of the bullpen. 434 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 1: He it was like, you know, the running of the 435 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: bulls in Pomplona. I mean it was he wanted to 436 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 1: get on that mountain. It was almost like he was 437 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 1: being timed like, hey, if you don't get there in 438 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: fifteen seconds, then you don't get to pitch. But man, 439 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: I love watching him pitch. It's so great in our 440 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 1: sport to see a guy go I want the ball. 441 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: You know, in football, it's different basketball because you have 442 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: to go to the go to guy. In baseball, you know, 443 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 1: he's going on two days rest, we have regiments, we 444 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: have schedules. He came ready to play and I just 445 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: love him. I gotta tell you this quick story, Dan. 446 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: I was shooting this thing with him three years ago 447 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: for Nike. It was a whole new Nike ad that 448 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: were coming out with new equipment, and so I spent 449 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: time with trout, Springer, Bayez and Scherzer went to each 450 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: spring training count. So Max is in full gear. They're 451 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: breaking off the new Nike uniform. It's not out yet. 452 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: So he's got to throw a bullpen that day and 453 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,880 Speaker 1: we're like, hey, can we film you live? No problem, 454 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: So we watch his bullpen. He's got to simulate a game. 455 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: He's gonna throw two in and simulated game. He has 456 00:21:55,320 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 1: full union. You'll love this, Daan. He throws sixteen twenty 457 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: pitches and now he's getting ready to go play that 458 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:07,199 Speaker 1: assimilated game. He stops after the fiftheenth pitch, takes his 459 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: hat off, and as standing there singing the anthem. This 460 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,199 Speaker 1: game set. So I'm like, well, shoot, I guess I'm 461 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: take my hat off and stand here too. He's singing 462 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: through the anthem. He the pitching coach of the catcher. 463 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: They all stop, and as soon as they finished the 464 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: full complete anthem, he put his hat back on, grabbed 465 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 1: the rosin, got the ball through five more pitches, and 466 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: sprinted to the mount. I want this guy's nuts. He's 467 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 1: a gamer, but he's got one hundred ninety seven wins 468 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: including the postseason. But a Hall of Famer, right, Oh yeah, 469 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: no doubt first ballot. I think. Also, Dan, we got 470 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: to start looking Hall of Fame different with this generation. 471 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I was going to ask you that game 472 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 1: has flipped. It's totally flipped in the last ten years 473 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: and particularly the last five years. We may never see 474 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 1: a guy throw two hundred innings in the seas. I mean, 475 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: how are we gonna gauge three hundred wins? So, um, 476 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 1: it's totally different. Now we gotta start looking at how 477 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 1: we're gonna look at guys for Hall of Fame. I 478 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 1: thought this to you real quick, and think about this, 479 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: you and mc mclov and all the guys there. This 480 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 1: may be the best contract in sports history for baseball. 481 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: For sure. The contract he had in Washington, he fulfilled it, 482 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: pitched every start, won a World Series, All Star, to 483 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: Cy youngs in there. It's pretty impressive. Well. I also 484 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: wonder about Jacob deGrom. He might go in the Hall 485 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: of Famous, a five hundred pitcher. I know, man, look 486 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: it's gone. When Felix Fernandez won the Cy Young I 487 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: think in Seattle one years thirteen and twelve, and they 488 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,239 Speaker 1: went well, but look at this whip and look at 489 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 1: all these other numbers, it was it was over, game over. 490 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: Like de gram was ten and nine and they were 491 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 1: trying to give him the MVP. Hi, Malu, we're talking 492 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: to Harold Reynolds of Major League Baseball Network. Al Tuve 493 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: is still raking, man. I know it's hard to leave 494 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen in the rearview mirror here, I don't. Can 495 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: you leave twenty seventeen in the review mirror when you 496 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:24,439 Speaker 1: talk about today's Astros, No, you can't. The core of 497 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,679 Speaker 1: that club is still there. And even if you weren't 498 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,640 Speaker 1: on that team. You were now banging on a garbage can. 499 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 1: I mean, that's just the way you're gonna be viewed. 500 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,199 Speaker 1: And I wouldn't even bring it up if the players 501 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: weren't answering that question themselves. They know it. That's just 502 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: gonna be with them forever. I do remember back then 503 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: when it first broke in like nineteen or whatever, that 504 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 1: al Tub was the one player that everybody was saying 505 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: he didn't want signs. And I get that. I played 506 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: with a number of players who never wanted signs. They 507 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 1: wanted they would give signs, but they didn't want to 508 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: know what might become. I'm in the case you messed 509 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: up giving it too, though. So when you're at second 510 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 1: base and you're signaling in, whether it's location or well, 511 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:13,439 Speaker 1: it's probably location that you're signaling in, aren't you sometimes 512 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 1: both depending on if you could pick up the pictures, 513 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,719 Speaker 1: signs and everything else. So yeah, but I locate it. 514 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 1: I'd located and recognized both. I set both in. Okay, 515 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: who did you take advantage of picture wise? Who? Um, 516 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: I don't know about picture It's more catchers that would 517 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: get lazy. Okay, who did you take advantage of sign 518 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 1: they go through one round and then they're throwing just 519 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 1: a simple one down like Pledge Rodriguez was a guy 520 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 1: used to do that. He just go through the signs 521 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: and get frusted and go all right fast you know, okay, 522 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: fastball in you know. But what would you do in 523 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,120 Speaker 1: real time? So you're at second base, you're leading off 524 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 1: second base? Yeah, and what's the sele? So real time 525 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: I would go to my helmet. I'd walk back to 526 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: the base, step on the base, go to my helmet 527 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: like this, like I'm adjusting it. Not let the hitter 528 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 1: know I have the signs. So being the leadoff guy, 529 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: I would try to get there and see sequences, and 530 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 1: if I was able to figure it out, I may 531 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 1: talk to somebody else who got there by the fourth 532 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: or fifth ending. If that same pitchers out there and 533 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 1: catch her. We had their signs, and so guys came 534 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: up with a lot of different creative things. When I 535 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: was with Seattle and Mark Langston was pitching, his signs 536 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,360 Speaker 1: were so complicated. I still don't know how the other 537 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: infielders even knew a lot of times I didn't know. 538 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: But what he did was he played what he called 539 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 1: the scoreboard sign one and one, two, two, oh? Any 540 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: even count was first sign? So oh, first sign. So 541 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 1: let's say it throws a strike. Now he's one, he's oh. 542 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: On one, it would be the third sign. And then 543 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 1: if it was one to know it would be the same, 544 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 1: so odd number. Then he goes back to one, one, two. 545 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,439 Speaker 1: You went a different second sign, so it was a trip. 546 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: You had to really follow along. Did you ever give 547 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 1: Ken Griffy Junior a sign from second base? No, Ken 548 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: Griffy Junior sixteen, he didn't. No signs. Are we are 549 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:17,439 Speaker 1: we destined for the Astro's Dodgers? I sure hope. So. 550 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 1: I mean I want to see Alex Cora faced, Joe 551 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: Kelly hit the ball, blow him a kiss. I mean, 552 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to seeing this, and I think the 553 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: fans want it, you know in LA they've been they've 554 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 1: been wanting this matchup. I think it'd be great for 555 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: the sport. Always great to catch up with you, Thanks 556 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: as always, hr all right, my friend, take care of dppe. 557 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 558 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox sports 559 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search f 560 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: SR to listen live. He's my Carmen. I'm Dan Byer. 561 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: We have a brand new fantasy football podcast called I 562 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: Want Your Flex. 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Every week 567 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna scour the waiver wire to find the pickups 568 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 1: to turbo boost your fantasy lineup, sits starts, fantasy football 569 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 1: players rankings to get you ready to dominate the competition. 570 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 1: Listen to I Want Your Flex with Mike Carmen and 571 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 1: me Dan Buyer on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast and 572 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. Ross Tucker, host of the 573 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: Ross Tucker Football Podcast, works for CBS, which would one 574 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: as a color analyst joining us. Great to see you again, Ross. 575 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,959 Speaker 1: Zach Ertz just got traded from the Eagles to the Cardinals. 576 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: Can zach Ertz play this Sunday when the Cardinals played 577 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: the Browns? No, he's not. He can't, Dan, but that 578 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: would be funny if he could. No, the NFLPA, you're 579 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: only allowed to play one game. Per week, so he'll 580 00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: be on the sideline watching his new team play. I 581 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 1: will say this though, Dan, back in two thousand and two, 582 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: I got two bye weeks, which was nice. I was 583 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: in Washington, had an early by, got cut by Spurrier, 584 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: went to Dallas, got another by. I mean, Dan, I 585 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: was almost bad enough that if I had kept getting 586 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: cut by teams, I might have been able to get 587 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: five or six bys in that week that year. Do 588 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: you have a favorite Steve Spurrier story? Oh my gosh, 589 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: so probably my favorite is that if there was even 590 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 1: a threat of rain, I got two. If there was 591 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: even a threat of rain, he would cancel practice because 592 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: Washington did not have an indoor facility. So this is 593 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: back when Marvin Lewis was the first million dollars coordinator 594 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: that Washington brought in. So it would drizzle and Spurrier 595 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: would cancel practice and Marvin Lewis will be like, no, no, coach, 596 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: we got go, we gotta practice. The other one is Dan, 597 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 1: I swear to you as God is my witness. He 598 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 1: had no sight adjustments or hot reads in his offense. 599 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: What's yeah? What's that explained that? Yeah? So a hot reader, 600 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: a site adjustment, is when the defense blitz is more 601 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: guys than you have to protect, and so the quarterback 602 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: has to throw the ball. He has to throw it 603 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: and the receiver has to see it because the receiver 604 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: has to know, oh man, this guy's coming, he's gonna 605 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: throw the ball to me right away. Spurre didn't have those. 606 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: Spurrier expected the quarterback to audible. So in Patrick Ramsey's 607 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 1: first start, he was a first round pick from Tulane, 608 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: We're playing the Saints at home. The Saints, Dan looked 609 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: like they're bringing a blitz from the right and Ramsey's 610 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: going through his cadence and Spurrier says Patrick Patrick Patrick, 611 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: and Ramsey looks over and he says, ringo slide, Ringo slide, 612 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: because it looked like the Saints are coming from the right. 613 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 1: And Ramsey is a rookie from June who who condes, 614 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: oh good, ringo slide, ringo slide. As soon as he 615 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 1: does that, the Saints rotate the safety and they looked 616 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: like they're coming from the left, and Spuryer goes Patrick Patrick. Patrick, 617 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: Ramsey looks over, blue slide, blue slide. Ramsey goes, okay, okay, 618 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: delay a game, Delay game Dan I was in there thinking, 619 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: this is the NFL, dude, this is the NFL, and 620 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: the head coach is screaming audibles to the rookie quarterback 621 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: to make them and we just ran out of time. 622 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: I knew it was gonna be weird being trouble Wafter that, 623 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 1: you were on the call with last night's game with 624 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: the Eagles and the Buccaneers. Let me start with Jalen 625 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: Hurtson Jalen Hurts, the answer long term, don't know yet. 626 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: I do know that he is competing every week with 627 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: all of the other available options as it stands right now, 628 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: because the Eagles have the Dolphins first round pick because 629 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: of that horrible trade by the Dolphins this offseason to 630 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 1: move up from twelve to six and give up next 631 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: year's first round pick, and very likely to get the 632 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: Colts first round pick as long as Wentz plays seventy 633 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: five percent. Right now, the Eagles have three picks in 634 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: the top eight. I believe they're certainly top ten, and 635 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 1: a lot of people think veterans like Russell Wilson, to 636 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: Shaun Watson, maybe even Aaron Rodgers are all going to 637 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: be available, which is to say Jalen Hurts is essentially 638 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 1: competing against all of the other options that will be 639 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: available to the Eagles after this season because of their 640 00:32:56,160 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 1: their draft capital. Explain doing it again now, granted's against 641 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: the Eagles. He did have two touchdowns, did throw an interception? 642 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 1: Was there anything of interest with you with Brady last night? 643 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: I mean, he didn't throw a single bad pass in 644 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: the first half. There was two incompletions. One Can Brait dropped, 645 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: the other one he had Tonio' Brown got pushed out. 646 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: You know, I was just about the tweet last night, 647 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 1: Dan at halftime at Ross Tucker NFL. The guy is 648 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 1: a robot. But then he actually had a couple of 649 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: bad throws in the second half. I don't know what 650 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 1: happened to him, but he had a couple of throws. 651 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: You know. You know why some people never give him 652 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 1: the credit, Dan, It's because he doesn't do the spectacular 653 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: like Rogers or Mahomes or Josh Allen, and what he does, 654 00:33:53,400 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: Brady's greatness is consistently doing the routine over and over 655 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 1: and over and over again. And that's not on the highlights. 656 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: It never makes Brady never makes people go wow when 657 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 1: they're watching him play. The wow is that He's just 658 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 1: good every single time. He's the NFL's version of Tim Duncan. Yes, yes, 659 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:27,399 Speaker 1: that's a great that's a great comparison. It's like, and 660 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 1: you're you're to blame for this. By the way, Dan, 661 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 1: we live. We live in a highlights society. We live 662 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 1: in a society that all anybody cares about is what's 663 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 1: on Sports Center or now what's on the internet. You 664 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 1: started that with the awesome show at the Mothership, the 665 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 1: Four Letter Network, But with every passing year, we care 666 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:52,319 Speaker 1: less about consistent performance and more about highlights and the 667 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: special and the stuff we that wows us, and nothing 668 00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 1: that Brady does wows us other than the success. I'm 669 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,879 Speaker 1: also wondering what happened here? What did I miss? Where 670 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 1: it's open season on Patrick Mahomes and now all of 671 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 1: a sudden, you know, people are going, I'd take Josh 672 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 1: Allen over Patrick Mahomes. I'd take Justin Herbert over Patrick Mahomes. 673 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 1: What happened here? Our attention spans are about ten minutes, 674 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 1: and he had a couple of games where he had turnovers. 675 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:27,320 Speaker 1: I mean, he's still unbelievable. And the Chiefs defense is 676 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 1: the worst in the NFL. I heard you yesterday or 677 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 1: one of these days. I was listening and I heard 678 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 1: you pump the brakes on having anybody better than Mahomes, 679 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: And I'm with you. Like Josh Allen's been great this year, 680 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:44,439 Speaker 1: Herbert's been great this year. I'm still taking Mahomes over 681 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 1: anybody for the next ten years. That guy's ridiculous. And 682 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: a couple of turnovers and a terrible defense that doesn't 683 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 1: change that. Yeah, they're suddenly vulnerable, but and I love 684 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: Herbert and Josh Allen. I need to see a little 685 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 1: bit more from them because we have seen more from 686 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. I just think we're doing a disservice to 687 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,839 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. They've never had a great defense. They've they've 688 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 1: had a capable defense, maybe an opportunistic defense. Now they 689 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 1: have a horrible defense. And I couldn't help but look 690 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,359 Speaker 1: back to you know Edwards Hilaire, that they took him 691 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 1: at the end of the first round instead of taking 692 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:24,800 Speaker 1: a defensive player. You know, we get into those grades. Hey, 693 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 1: this guy's the highest graded guy still on our boards. 694 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,319 Speaker 1: I gotta go for need, I gotta go for what's 695 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 1: what's smart here. And you know the Cowboys got you 696 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 1: know Treyvon Diggs in the second round, like you know, 697 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,799 Speaker 1: granted they got Michael Parsons in the first round. But 698 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 1: the difference between the Cowboys and the Chiefs is that 699 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 1: Cowboys have a defense. They have a couple of players 700 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,879 Speaker 1: who can play defense right now. And I think he'll 701 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 1: never say this publicly. I think it affects how Mahomes played. Sure, 702 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 1: I think Mahomes is more aggressive because he knows the 703 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 1: defense stinks. You know. The other thing is Dan, we 704 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 1: all love the new thing, right, so we all love 705 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 1: Herbert now. Herbert's kind of the new thing, so we 706 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: always are looking for next. And Mahomes is also a 707 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 1: product of the expectations. You know. He's just set the 708 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 1: bar so high that if he doesn't always meet it 709 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:23,400 Speaker 1: every week, it's like, oh, he's not playing as well, 710 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 1: whereas Alan and Herbert are still in the position to 711 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,759 Speaker 1: be able to exceed our expectations. Always great to talk 712 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 1: to you. Ross will be on the Call Yale in 713 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:38,840 Speaker 1: Yukon tomorrow. That's on CBS Sports Network, The Nutmeg State 714 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 1: Battle while you throw out the records when those two 715 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:46,760 Speaker 1: get together, listen the Nutmeg State. This is for bragging 716 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 1: rights in the Nutmeg State for decades. Tomorrow at noon, 717 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,799 Speaker 1: CBS Sports Network, Thank you, Ross. That's Ross Tuns.