1 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: It is a football Friday Week seven edition. Do we 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: see Jacoby Brissett get a second straight start? God Zach 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: Kershman with me berg Gang. Okay, so nothing definitive as 4 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: far as QB one for Sunday, Kyle the Murray or 5 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:21,479 Speaker 1: Jacoby Brissetts Just to guess, maybe it is Jacoby for 6 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 1: a second straight week again, just a guest. Zach and 7 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: I go with the rest of the injury report plus 8 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: head into enemy territory. Rob Dmowski joins the show. He 9 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 1: covers the Green Bay Packers for ESPN, It's Cardinals Cover two, 10 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: episode nine thirty seven, and it starts now. 11 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two P. 12 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 3: To Baker, What Heart? 13 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 4: What rent? This guy's unbelievable? 14 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 15 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals and by Arizona Cardinals Podcast Visit Azycardinals 16 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 2: dot Com Slash podcast. 17 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 1: Ten half of five p's it again, so more hurry magic. 18 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 2: Whow here's Craig Grieler. 19 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: So one week later, Zach, we are basically in the 20 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: same exact position as we were heading into the Indianapolis 21 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: Colts game. Who was going to be QB one was 22 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 1: it going to be Kydleer Murray or Jacob Prissett. And 23 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: here we are before the Green Bay Packers pay a 24 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: visit to State Farm Stadium. Still don't quite know what 25 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:33,119 Speaker 1: the situation is going to be win reguards to QB one, 26 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: though if you read between the lines, it certainly would appear. 27 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 1: I say that appear that maybe we do see Jacoby 28 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:41,919 Speaker 1: get a second straight start. 29 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like we are in the same boat, 30 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 3: in the same situation. But the difference was is that 31 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 3: Kyler did not practice those first two days of the 32 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 3: week last week. So because of that, we assumed and 33 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 3: felt very confident saying that Jacoby Brissett was likely going 34 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 3: to be the guy. Kyler's loged two straight limited practices 35 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 3: so far there very similar to the one practice we 36 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 3: saw that he had a last Friday. We're recording this 37 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 3: before we go out to practice this Friday. I'm not 38 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 3: sure what it's gonna end up being. You have the 39 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 3: opportunity to rest Kayler as he has that foot spring 40 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 3: that's being described as throughout the bye week, and then 41 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 3: make sure that he's fully healthy going into the Dallas week. 42 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 3: I'm not sure, though it does look like Jacoby Brissett 43 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 3: likely potentially might be the guy out there, and if 44 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 3: he is, we saw how this offense looked with him 45 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 3: at the helm. 46 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, three hundred yards passing. The offense certainly looked a 47 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: lot different than what we have seen, though still not 48 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: able to get over the hump. As far as snapping 49 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: what is now a four game losing street Cardinals two 50 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: and four, they'll host the Green Bay Packers three one 51 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: and one. That's the Packers team that comes into State 52 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: Farm Stadium on Sunday one twenty five is the kickoff 53 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 1: eight thirty. Pre game coverage begins on the Arizona Cardinals 54 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: Radio network. And yet it is the final game before 55 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: the bye week, which, if Kyler doesn't play, would give 56 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: him another full week of rest and then another week 57 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: of practice going into Monday Night Football against the Dallas 58 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: Cowboys in Dallas. And we know Kyler and his history 59 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: at AT and T Stadium undefeated, yes, and that is 60 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 1: something that that storyline will be one to watch and 61 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: we'll hear a lot about going into that Week nine 62 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: contest on Monday Night Football. Elsewhere on the injury fronts, 63 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: only one player ruled out right now, and that is 64 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 1: running back of Mario dearmccado dealing with an ankle injury. 65 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: So as you look at that running back room, no 66 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: James Connor, no Trey Benson, no mart De Mercato, You've 67 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: got Michael Carter, Bam Knight. There will be another running 68 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: back added to the active roster, elevated off the practice squad. 69 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: It's just a question of, Okay, is it Jamar Jefferson 70 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: or is it de Ernest Johnson. A couple of veterans, 71 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: although Johnson's the seven year vet and Jefferson's only been 72 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: in the league two years. So someone's going to be 73 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: elevated just in case Michael or or Bam get hurt. 74 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: But I do think you're gonna see a lot of 75 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: what we saw last week when Amari did go down, 76 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: is that those carries between Michael and Bam probably going 77 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: to be split and just kind of ride the hot hand. 78 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 3: The Ernest Johnson has time with Drew Petsings, He has familiarity, 79 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 3: which is something that definitely I think gives him an 80 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 3: advantage over Jefferson. But when you look at it, yeah, 81 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 3: the running game is going to go through Michael Carter 82 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 3: and is going to go through Bam night. You just 83 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 3: need to hope that both of those guys stay healthy 84 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 3: because that room has taken a major hit. Although I 85 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 3: did see on social media on x somebody tweeted at 86 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 3: Trey Benson and just said to him like, I'm just 87 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 3: thinking of you. Hope you're going well or I hope 88 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 3: you're doing well, And he responded back to them and said, 89 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 3: thank you. I'm going to be back soon. So that's 90 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 3: something that we knew. It was not going to be 91 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 3: a season ending injury. We knew he'd be back at 92 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 3: some point. Maybe it's sooner than later. Whatever, this running 93 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 3: back room needs to get. 94 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 4: That extra boost. 95 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 3: I'm sure that they're going to welcome it all. 96 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: And something we'll discuss with Rob Demowski here in a moment. 97 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: This Packers defense, when it comes to stopping the run, 98 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: there is no better defense in the league allowing just 99 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: seventy three yards carry. And this is a defense that 100 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: is minus Kenny Clark and probably going to be minus 101 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: DeVante Wyatt for a second straight game as he deals 102 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: with an injury. But that's something to pay attention to 103 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: going up against a team that is stout against the 104 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: run offensively. If you're Drew petsing. 105 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 4: What do you do? 106 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: Is it more of the drop back game like we 107 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,119 Speaker 1: saw last week and it's forty plus pass attempts because 108 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: going in, you know what your limitations are personnel wise, 109 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: and then you see what the defense is. What is 110 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: it going to take to better Green Bay on Sunday. 111 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 3: Well, let's go off of that first off. We might 112 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 3: expect to also not see Lucas van Ness, who's their 113 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 3: second string defensive alignment that they have in the rotation 114 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 3: over there. He's also on the injury report and did 115 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,919 Speaker 3: not practice on Wednesday or Thursday. 116 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 4: When it comes to the. 117 00:05:56,400 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 3: Personnel usage, that also drastically changed because of Travis vocal 118 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 3: K's injury early in the game, before the offense even 119 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 3: trot it out there. Because of that, that's also as 120 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 3: part of the reason why Jacobe Prissett had to throw 121 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:09,799 Speaker 3: for the forty four times that he did. I don't 122 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 3: think that it would have been nearly as much if 123 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 3: Travis Voclek was healthy, because Jonathan Gannon said, we had 124 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 3: to completely wipe away a large part of that personnel 125 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 3: grouping when they were expected to use Travis Vaclec, which 126 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 3: limits what you're able to do in the rushing attack, 127 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 3: and on top of that, you already don't have Amaro 128 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:29,119 Speaker 3: de Mercado starting in the beginning of the second quarter. 129 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 3: This Cardinals team has taken a lot of blows when 130 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 3: it comes to the injury front, and it has not 131 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,119 Speaker 3: been easy in all three phases. You're you're you're trying 132 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 3: out a brand new putter out there in pat o'donnald 133 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 3: because Blake Gillikins on the injured reserve or the injury 134 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 3: reserve list. It's a it's a tough part. Then it's 135 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 3: the no known part of all of this. As Jonathan 136 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 3: Gannon likes to say, you know what's going to happen, 137 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 3: you just don't know when it's going to happen. But man, 138 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 3: it's it's a bummer. But hopefully they're able to find 139 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 3: a way through because both teams are dealing with that. 140 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 3: The Packers also had fourteen players on their injury. 141 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: Also offensively, when it comes to injuries, Zay Jones hasn't 142 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: been on the practice field being because of a knee issue, 143 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: and Marvin Harrison Junior yes on the practice field but 144 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: still going through that concussion protocol. I do feel better 145 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: about seeing number eighteen on the field this week, and 146 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: that would certainly help whomever your starting quarterback is because 147 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: of the lack of depth and the running back room. 148 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: Because now, all of a sudden, as we saw last week, 149 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: you use those wide receivers. 150 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 4: Whomever gets called. 151 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to step up your game in order 152 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: to get this offense to where it needs to be 153 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: because as we talk about, the personnel grouping is what 154 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: you want to do or the plan you thought you 155 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: had going into this, not just this week, but this season, 156 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden that changes because you're down 157 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: three running backs, you're down two tight ends, and then 158 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it's like, okay, well what's left 159 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: that's wide receiver? 160 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 3: Well, well we'll also change too. It's something that this 161 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 3: Cardinals team is going to need to be very mindful of, 162 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 3: is Micah Parsons because because of what has been being 163 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 3: discussed with NFL officiating, they have been making a point 164 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 3: of emphasis to talk about making sure Micah has made 165 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 3: a lot of claims and the Packers have made a 166 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 3: lot of claims and I'm not going to be the 167 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 3: one to necessarily dispute them about He's been held a 168 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 3: lot of different times and they have not been giving 169 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 3: him that star treatment that I guess you give a 170 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 3: lot of the pass rushers out there and have not 171 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 3: been throwing the flag as frequently against offensive linemen. The 172 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 3: Cardinals are gonna expect to see a lot of Micah Parsons, 173 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 3: which is going to shorten the time that Jacoby Brissett 174 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 3: or Kyler Murray has in the pocket to try to 175 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 3: find those targets like Marvin Harrison Junior, if he's healthy 176 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 3: enough to go in the game, which we will see 177 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 3: on Friday, if he's going to be repping the yellow 178 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 3: jersey or not, We're still not sure, so check out 179 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 3: our Asy Cardinals social channels for all that information. But 180 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 3: that's what you're gonna have an eye on, and that's 181 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 3: going to potentially disrupt the flow of the offense. That's 182 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 3: something this Cardinals team is going to need to be 183 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 3: mindful of. Play smart offense, try to limit the penalties 184 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 3: as best as you can. This is a team last 185 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 3: year that was in the bottom half of the league 186 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,079 Speaker 3: when it came to or in the upper half of 187 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 3: the league when it came to the fewest amount of 188 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 3: injury or fewest amount of penalties. So far, they've they've 189 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 3: had quite a few charged against them. So this is 190 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 3: the offensive line is gonna need to be on their 191 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 3: pis and cues, as they like to say. 192 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: So question marks offensively defensively. This is not a surprise, 193 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: but Jonathan Gannon says that Walter Nolan the third will 194 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 1: not have or will not be added to the fifty 195 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: three man roster. Not a surprise after just a week's 196 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: worth of practices. Probably needs a couple of more weeks 197 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: before we see number ninety seven on the field, Although 198 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: we'll say this, it was good to see him on 199 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 1: the field, and what we did see Zach was someone 200 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: that showed no hesitation, showed no limitations as far as 201 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: you know that calf issue is concerned. Now, was he 202 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: going full speed it's position drills. Yes, he was in 203 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: full pass but we didn't see any of the eleven 204 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: on eleven that he has not done since all miss 205 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: So again, it's not so much is he healthy. Is 206 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: is he in football shape to be ready to help 207 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: this defensive line? 208 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 3: And that'll take some time, I'm sure, and the Cardinals 209 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 3: will have the bye week to continue to help him 210 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 3: get into shape if he's not already, And then they'll 211 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 3: have the week as they prepare to go to Dallas 212 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 3: for the Monday night football matchup. And when we were 213 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 3: watching at practice, he looked good. He looked fast, he 214 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 3: looked quick. He had that elusiveness that you know Kalay's 215 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,319 Speaker 3: Campbell gave him a lot of props about. But I thought, 216 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 3: and we can't really record a lot of different things 217 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 3: during the practice window with the audio because of copyrights 218 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 3: and music and all that kind of all that fun stuff. 219 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 3: But if we could, if we could have post it, 220 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,959 Speaker 3: you would hear coach Deebo giving him tons of praise, 221 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 3: and he said something that I saw brought a smile 222 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 3: to Walt's face, and he said back, like you never 223 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 3: left nine to seven after they were doing a punch 224 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 3: out drill, and you saw Walt smile. And I think, 225 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 3: considering we've only seen walking around the facility and in 226 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 3: and out of the locker room every now and and 227 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 3: we haven't seen him on the practice field since OTA's 228 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 3: to see your first round pick smiling out there and 229 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 3: see that he's having fun and seeing the other guys 230 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 3: in the room being like, yeah, Walt, like we see you. 231 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 3: That's awesome, that's awesome. I think that that could only 232 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 3: serve him well. 233 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: The defensive line group that practices right in front of 234 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 1: us during the open portion during the week is looking 235 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: a lot better like we thought it was going to 236 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: look this season as far as who's available, obviously Walter 237 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: on the field. Darius Robinson has practiced this week after 238 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: missing the past two weeks with the injury to his PEX. 239 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: So if you can get Walter at some point in 240 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: the next couple of weeks, and maybe even d rob 241 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: this week, now, all of a sudden, you don't have 242 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: to rely a lot on Klaus or Dalvin and Dante 243 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: Stills as far as Okay, here's the bulk of your snaps, 244 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: and let's not forget blow Nichols missed last week's game. 245 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 4: You have him. 246 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: Now, all of a sudden, You've got a little bit 247 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: more of a rotation guys that are healthy and maybe 248 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: affect what Green Bay does offensive and PJ. 249 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 3: Mustafer has played great and Dante Stills has played great. 250 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 3: So the defensive line started to look like we thought 251 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,439 Speaker 3: it was going to look going into training camp, and 252 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 3: it's exciting to see that because the investments that were made. 253 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 3: You don't necessarily want your thirty nine year old defensive 254 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,959 Speaker 3: tackle to be playing a season high in a snap 255 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 3: percentages like he did in this past game at this 256 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 3: point in the season, especially with how often the or 257 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 3: how frequently the Cardins utilize their rotation with with bringing 258 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 3: in different defensive alignment, I understand you want to have 259 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 3: your best sort of players in the game at the 260 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 3: biggest time moments, especially when it's a one score game. 261 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,079 Speaker 3: You want to have Kalais Campbell out there. But if 262 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 3: you know that, you're going to have Darius Robinson, who 263 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 3: in his last play before entering his peck had a sack. 264 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 3: And then you have walteron Nolan the third who was 265 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 3: an All American and an All SEC player, and you 266 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 3: have Blal Nichols coming back who was kind of had 267 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 3: that iron Man streak before he had that neck injury 268 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,079 Speaker 3: last season. It's starting to add a little bit more 269 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:57,959 Speaker 3: and those pieces can only compliment and help Kalais Campbell 270 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 3: get his and stay fresh and Dalvin Tomlinson to plug 271 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 3: gaps in the middle. So I'm excited for it. 272 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 5: Now. 273 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 3: It's not gonna be this week that we're gonna see 274 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 3: Walter out there, but sooner than later. It seems like 275 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 3: ninety seven will make his return in It'll be a 276 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 3: sight to see. 277 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: And a challenge to see the Cardinals defense on Sunday 278 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: against a Packers offense that is very, very good this season. 279 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: In fact, how about we get a little bit more 280 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: in depth on the Green Bay Packers. As we mentioned 281 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 1: off the top, Zach and I had a chance to 282 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: speak with Rob Dmowski, ESPN Packers reporter. Get his take 283 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: on the team. Here now our conversation. So full disclosure, Rob, 284 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:38,959 Speaker 1: I've been using a note you had in an article 285 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: on ESPN earlier in the week, and I'm now going 286 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: to give you full credit. The Packers are the only 287 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: team that has led by double digits in every game. 288 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 1: That's impressive. But you also noticed that they've lost the 289 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: Browns and barely managed a tie against the Cowboys. So 290 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 1: just how good are the Packers? 291 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it speaks to the inconsistency that we've 292 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 5: seen from them this season. Now, there's a lot of 293 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 5: teams that would probably take three to one and one 294 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 5: at this point, but they are the only team that 295 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 5: the Browns have beaten, So that's obviously a mark on 296 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 5: the negative side for them. But they've shown, you know, 297 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 5: obviously by having ten or more point leads in every game, 298 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 5: they've shown you know how good they can potentially be. 299 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 5: Their second halves have really hurt them, especially defensively the 300 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 5: last the last two games they've had the last eight 301 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 5: defensive series, they've allowed five touchdowns, two field goals, and 302 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 5: one missed field goal. Like that, that's the kind of 303 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 5: stuff that could get you beat. So so they the 304 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 5: first couple of games they liked, looked incredible in all areas. 305 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 5: The offense was clicking, the defense was shutting down good 306 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 5: offenses in Detroit and Washington. But the last few weeks 307 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 5: it's been a little bit shaky. 308 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 3: Why do you think that is, well, I think. 309 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 5: That's a great question. I think one of the things 310 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 5: they're not doing is getting takeaways. They only have two 311 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 5: takeaways all season, and one of them was basically a 312 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 5: hail mary interception at the end of the first half 313 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 5: in Cleveland. I mean that was basically just a punt 314 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 5: that they picked off. This is a team that last 315 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 5: year had thirty one takeaways I think that was like 316 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 5: fourth in the league, seventeen interceptions, fourteen stumble recoveries. I mean, 317 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 5: they were turnover machine, and this year they're just not 318 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 5: getting those plays, and I'm not one hundred percent sure why, 319 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 5: because the pass rush has still been good. It's been 320 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 5: better than it was last year. Obviously, the addition of 321 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 5: Michael Parsons will help that. You know, I don't care 322 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 5: what their sack numbers say, but their pressure is good. 323 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 5: So it's just a matter of making those big plays 324 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 5: at the right time. Going back to the second half stuff, 325 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 5: there's only three teams that don't have a second half 326 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 5: takeaway of this season. It's the Packers, the Jets, and Miami. 327 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 5: And we know how much the Jets in Miami to struggle. 328 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 5: Those teams are combined, I think one and eleven. So 329 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 5: the fact that the Packers are doing this without takeaways 330 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 5: and still you know, on the right side of the 331 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 5: ledger here, I guess is a credit to them, but 332 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 5: it's also something that they need to figure out. 333 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: Sounds very similar to what the Cardinals defensively are dealing 334 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: with as far as their fourth quarter and their lack 335 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: of stops as far as getting opposing offenses off the field. 336 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: But since you bring up the defense, it is impressive 337 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: to just look at the numbers, especially against what the 338 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: Packers have done against the run. Cardinals don't have James Connor, 339 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: don't have Trey Benson. Will figure out what the issue 340 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: is or the status is of a Mario de Mercado. 341 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: But why the Packers defensively because there was a big 342 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: deal about the loss of Kenny Clark in that trade 343 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: with Michael Parsons. But defensively stopping the run doesn't seem 344 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: to have been holding this Green Bay team back. 345 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 5: No, and they were really good at it last year too. 346 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 5: You know, they hired a new defensive coordinator last year 347 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 5: before last season, Jeff Hafley, So one of his basically 348 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 5: first orders of business was to get the run defense 349 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:08,439 Speaker 5: figured out because it had been poor to downright, you know, 350 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 5: costing them games for several years. Really going back, they've 351 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 5: they've struggled in the run. It's funny some some teams 352 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 5: struggle in certain areas, like you know, in in the 353 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 5: division here the Bears can never seem to get the 354 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 5: quarterback right. The Packers always seem to struggle stopping to 355 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 5: run and struggle giving up big plays on special teams. 356 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 5: But they certainly had the quarterback thing mostly figured out. 357 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 5: So I guess I'd given a choice, you know, I 358 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 5: think you'd rather have it this way. But the run 359 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 5: defense was just such a priority when when Jeff Haffley 360 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 5: took over that they focused so much energy on it 361 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 5: and they really became good at it quickly. You know, 362 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 5: they've got good inside linebackers Kway Walker and Edrian Cooper 363 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 5: and Isaiah McDuffie as well their third linebacker in their 364 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 5: four to three, And those guys are disciplined, They played, 365 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 5: they play gaps well, they don't take a lot of chances, 366 00:17:57,720 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 5: they don't miss a lot of tackles. And so when 367 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 5: your defense and front, even though they don't have Kenny Clark, 368 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 5: but when your defensive front takes up all the blockers, 369 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 5: you can allow your linebackers to play downhill and make 370 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 5: tackles near the line of scrimmage. So I do think 371 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 5: that's been very good for this team. I did think 372 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 5: Kenny Clark, the loss of Kenny Clark would would be 373 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 5: a problem. Now I will tell you guys this that 374 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 5: they also in the last game or the Dallas game, 375 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 5: excuse me, lost Devonte Wyatt, their other returning starting defensive tackle, 376 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 5: and he didn't play last week against the Bengals, and 377 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 5: he has not practiced all week, So they may not 378 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 5: have him on Sunday against you guys, but you know 379 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 5: they're still managing to piece it together. 380 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,719 Speaker 3: The deal for Micah Parsons was probably one of the 381 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 3: biggest trades in recent memory. And I'm just curious to 382 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 3: know John Degannon was complimenting him for his versatility of 383 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 3: being able to move all across the line of scrimmage. 384 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 3: But what ways has just his presence. I know that 385 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 3: the stats might not be there, but in what ways 386 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 3: has his presence allowed for this defense to take that 387 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 3: next step? 388 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 5: Well, for one thing, if you're just looking at stats, 389 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 5: I mean, uh Rashaan Garry I think has four and 390 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 5: a half sacks. I think could you know he he 391 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 5: has never had double digit sacks in his career and 392 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 5: obviously is now on pace for that. So that just 393 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 5: you know, that's an impact right there. Frees Up, you 394 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 5: know a guy who used to get all the double 395 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 5: teams and now you know those double teams and chips 396 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 5: are all going toward Micah Parsons. But like I remember 397 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 5: talking to a couple of the receivers guys on the 398 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 5: other side of the ball after like the second or 399 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 5: third game of the year, as the second game of 400 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 5: the year, and they were like, you know, from our 401 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 5: perspective looking across the room, the whole energy of the 402 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 5: defense changed when when they got Micah here, Like that's 403 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 5: just that's how you know, It's just it's set an 404 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 5: energy through through really the whole team, but definitely through 405 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 5: the defensive guys that like, hey man, we got another 406 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,919 Speaker 5: piece now, and you know this might be the final 407 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 5: piece that it gets us over the hump. And I 408 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 5: just think from that standpoint, you know, it sends a 409 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 5: message that they're in to win this thing now. But 410 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 5: just from a from a football standpoint, I mean, I 411 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 5: don't know that I can tell you a player I've 412 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 5: seen that is faster off the ball than this guy. Now, 413 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 5: Reggie White, I covered the tail end of his time here. 414 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 5: Reggie was dominant, but it wasn't always with speed. It 415 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 5: was more of power. Micah Parsons is the fastest defensive guy, 416 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 5: defensive linemen, defensive edge guy off the snap that I've seen. 417 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 5: And that includes Clay Matthews, you know, that includes a 418 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 5: lot of guys that that have been productive here. Uh 419 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 5: and and Parsons is just different that way. There's there's 420 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 5: no question in my mind that he has had such 421 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 5: an impact from multiple levels, whether it's on the field, 422 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 5: the attitude, all that stuff, and it's just it's I 423 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 5: think it's brought an energy to this. 424 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: Defense eleventh in scoring defense top five and yards per game, 425 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 1: yards per play, rushing yards we talked about. 426 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 4: And certainly on third down, very very good. 427 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 1: Now flipping it over to the offense, eighth in scoring, 428 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 1: Jordan Loves statistically is having a career year. What have 429 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,719 Speaker 1: you seen from him, because as we talked about, you know, 430 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,679 Speaker 1: three to one and one, you would expect maybe a 431 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: better record based off some of the numbers you're seeing offensively. 432 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the key thing with with Love this 433 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,439 Speaker 5: is obviously what year three as a starter. Uh. The 434 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 5: one thing that he was unable to do last year 435 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 5: was was moved like he just he got hurt. If 436 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 5: you remember the he had the knee injury in week 437 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 5: one last year the Brazil game against the Eagles, missed 438 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 5: the next two games, but even you know, played the 439 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 5: rest of the way, but just never you could just 440 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 5: tell he was never comfortable on the move. He's already 441 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 5: run you know, I think for mori yards or he's 442 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 5: close to already running for moriards through through what five 443 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 5: games that he did you know, a whole season last year. 444 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 5: He had a couple of conversions on third down where 445 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:56,199 Speaker 5: he scrambled in the game last week against Cincinnati that 446 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 5: those are just plays he wasn't making last year. I 447 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 5: think his accurate seat, you know, has improved. The one 448 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 5: area that you know, I think is still an issue 449 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 5: with him, and he doesn't have a lot of turnovers, 450 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,439 Speaker 5: but they've been at bad times. You know. He he 451 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 5: threw the interception backed up late in the Cleveland game 452 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 5: that basically gave the Browns the gimme touchdown and allowed 453 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 5: them to you know, get back in that game. He 454 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 5: had a red zone interception, you know, on the first 455 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 5: drive the other day and you know, they were driving 456 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 5: down to score and turned it over in the red zone. 457 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 5: And then his other turnovers he got it was a 458 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 5: strip sack fumble where he was backed up and not 459 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 5: that it's his fault, but it's just that's a part 460 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 5: of the field where you just can't turn the ball over. 461 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 5: You're just giving given points away. But other than that, 462 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 5: you know, he's been he's been very good. He's been 463 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 5: everything I think that they could have hoped for and 464 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 5: they still think he's going to get better as you 465 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 5: know sort of the maturity of these receivers. You know, 466 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 5: there's not a receiver here that's on his second contract 467 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,199 Speaker 5: like that. That's just a young receiving group. You know. 468 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 5: Matthew Golden the first round pick, as you guys know 469 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 5: that haven't picked a receiver before him in the first 470 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 5: round in like twenty three years. He's had two nice 471 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 5: games last couple of weeks is combined. I think his 472 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 5: last two games eight catches for one hundred and forty 473 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 5: four yards, had some big plays against Dallas. So he's 474 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 5: starting to get more comfortable and more chemistry with Jordan Love, 475 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 5: and I just think that, you know, they're in a 476 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 5: good situation with their young skill position players. 477 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 3: To kind of expand on that a little bit, because 478 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 3: one of my favorite clips from Draft weekend was watching 479 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,479 Speaker 3: the Green Bay fans go absolutely nuts when when they 480 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 3: were announcing that they were going to be drafting Matthew Golden. 481 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 3: I know that their chemistry has started to click a 482 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 3: little bit more as the weeks have gone on. Is 483 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 3: that just something as just a natural progression along the way, 484 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,199 Speaker 3: or is this something that matt lafore is trying to 485 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 3: make sure that Matthew Golden gets the ball in his hand. 486 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. 487 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 5: No, The answer to the question, as much as fans 488 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 5: might be frustrated, is they're not making a concertive, concerned effort, 489 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 5: and they really they never have it with any receiver 490 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 5: here since Lafoor's been here. I mean, I know DeVante 491 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 5: Adams got the ball a lot better was because DeVante 492 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 5: Adams just was open a lot. But they they even 493 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 5: made a point this week to say we're just because 494 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 5: Matthew Golden has made some plays like we're not We're 495 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 5: not going to force it. Lafleur's quote was, it's not premeditated. 496 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 5: Jordan has confidence in Uh to go wherever the right 497 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 5: spot to go with the ball is. I'll tell I 498 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,159 Speaker 5: would tell you that Jordan is going to him, I 499 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 5: mean Golden based on what the coverage dictates. And and 500 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 5: you know Golden is making plays. I mean he's still 501 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 5: only had five targets in the game last week three 502 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 5: you know, three catches for eighty six yards and a 503 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 5: couple of rushes put them over one hundred yards. You know, 504 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 5: a total total offense total yards for scrimmage. But they 505 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 5: they don't I mean It's why Tucker Craft, who I 506 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 5: think is a really really good tight end, that's why, 507 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 5: you know, his numbers maybe aren't as good. They just 508 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 5: don't They don't try to pick guys. They just run 509 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 5: their offense and whoever's open, that's where they go. And 510 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 5: I you know, it can be frustrating at times, but 511 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 5: it also can mean that they're hid to guard. 512 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 4: You mentioned Tucker Craft there. 513 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 3: It's funny that you said his stats are not that 514 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 3: good because in a lot of different ways he or 515 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 3: that they might not be as good as they could 516 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 3: be because he's statistically leading in a lot of different 517 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 3: categories like yards per catch, yards after catch, and things 518 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 3: of that nature. Is that more so a player that 519 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 3: could be like a security blanket for Jordan Love as 520 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 3: he's still maturing in that quarterback role a little bit. 521 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 5: I think the security blanket oftentimes more as Josh Jacobs 522 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,479 Speaker 5: on the you know, out of the backfield. I mean, 523 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 5: Jacobs has had really good receiving numbers on basically checkdowns, 524 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 5: you know, he I think he had not mistaken all 525 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 5: of the staffs in front of me. I think again, 526 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,360 Speaker 5: four or five catches for like fifty five fifty seven 527 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 5: yards or something last week. You know, that's pretty good 528 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 5: for a running back in this offense because it's not 529 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 5: necessarily designed for that. The thing with Kraft you mentioned 530 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,120 Speaker 5: yards after contact, like I can't. I mean, I can 531 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,360 Speaker 5: maybe count on one hand the times in the last 532 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 5: two seasons where he's been tackled by a defensive back, 533 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 5: like you know, a single and now they might gang 534 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 5: up bottom and bring him down eventually, But this guy 535 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 5: doesn't get tackled at first contact hardly. Ever. He's been really, 536 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 5: really good that way, and I think it's again it's 537 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 5: like golden It's one of those things where you're like, well, 538 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 5: why don't they give him the ball more? But that again, 539 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 5: is just sort of not the way that Matt Lafleur 540 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 5: designs the offense and calls plays. 541 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: Packers three one and one coming to State Farm Stadium 542 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 1: on Sunday, rob appreciate the time, great information. Look forward 543 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: to seeing you and the Packers and Cardinals coming up 544 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: this weekend. 545 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 5: All right, guys, I'm looking forward to it. Thanks for 546 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 5: having me. 547 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: Good stuff there from rob By the way Bird Gang. 548 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 1: If you want to follow him and get some information 549 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: on the Packers either before the game or during the game, 550 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: it's at Rob Demofski does a great job covering the 551 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: Packers and has done so for several years. He's basically 552 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 1: Darren Urban of the Green Bay Packers. Correct far as 553 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 1: longevity is concerned. I don't know about I guess so. 554 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 3: But it's different than Darren Gant, so that's true. Yeah, 555 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 3: maybe it's different than Darren Gan. 556 00:26:58,640 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 4: I don't know. 557 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 3: I haven't had the chance to see up and Darren interact. 558 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 3: I've only seen Darren and Darren interact. 559 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:03,959 Speaker 4: So I'm excited for this one. 560 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 1: Darren and Darren, you know, they should be They should go. 561 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: That should be a podcast, they should go on tour. 562 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,439 Speaker 3: Everybody's got podcast nowadays. Cardinals Cover Too is the one 563 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 3: everyone needs to listen to. 564 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 1: There you go, Good job, Darren, Cardinals Cover two percented 565 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 1: by Did I. 566 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 4: Call you Darren? Oh my god? I got the headshake 567 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 4: from from Cody. Wow, that's a classic. 568 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 5: Enough. 569 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 4: It is that a compliment? 570 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 3: Last show when I was filling in, you said that 571 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 3: Darren was the franchise quarterback, which is still right, But 572 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 3: I said, what's the fun in that? And now you 573 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 3: just called me Darren? 574 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 4: Isn't that a compliment? You don't take that as a compliment. 575 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 3: He's my boss, so I have to say it's a compliment. 576 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 3: But but what I just I just want to be loved. 577 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 4: Okay, just a slip. That's a slip up, slip in 578 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 4: the moment, it's okay, get back on track. 579 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 3: I forget you. 580 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 4: I appreciate that. 581 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: The last point in that interview with Demofski as far 582 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: as the Packers offense, and we didn't touch a lot about, 583 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: but it was referenced as far as Josh Jacobs and 584 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: what he has done. And I think, Zach, we're the 585 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: Cardinals are catching Josh Jacobs when he's playing his best ball, 586 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: at least through the first quarter of the season, back 587 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: to back games of at least one hundred and fifty 588 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: scrimming yards and two touchdowns. Last week he ran for 589 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 1: ninety three yards. And it's funny because the question was 590 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: asked to Klais Campbell earlier this week about Josh Jacobs, 591 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 1: and Klais was very blunt and mentioned how defensively the 592 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: Cardinals allowed one hundred fifty yards on the ground last week. 593 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor ran over them, and Klay says some guys 594 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: would want to not talk about that and keep it quiet, 595 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: but hey, it's out there, and until we can stop it, 596 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: it's going to continue to be something that opposing offenses go, 597 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna run the ball. See if the 598 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: Cardinals can't stop. So you hear it every week, but 599 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: a Baker makes it a point every Thursday. Got to 600 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: stop the run. But if the Cardinals can't slow down, 601 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: You're not gonna stop at Josh Jacobs, but slow him 602 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: down to where he doesn't affect the game like Jonathan 603 00:28:58,160 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: Taylor did last week, and all of a sudden, the 604 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: defense you force a Jordan Love to drop back. 605 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 4: Maybe a little bit more than he wants to. 606 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 3: Kalay has said that it's going to be the toughest test, 607 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 3: or the biggest test that they have all year, which 608 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 3: is saying something. And it's not that I don't necessarily 609 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 3: believe him, because I do, but I think it just 610 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 3: shows that the magnitude of what this game actually means 611 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 3: for this team. We talk about positioning. When you're going 612 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 3: into the bye week and you either are going to 613 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 3: go in with a win or you're going to go 614 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 3: in on a five game losing skid, and it's all 615 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 3: going to come down to the rushing attack. I think 616 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 3: the Cardinals feel very confident in their cornerbacks and in 617 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 3: their secondary to make big time plays when they needed 618 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 3: to and when they and they win when they will 619 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 3: need them to. It's your defensive front seven that you 620 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 3: need to be able to stop the run and not 621 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 3: just stop the runner or they're going to get theirs. 622 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 3: It's it's the NFL. Everybody does, but you have to 623 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 3: try to limit them. Josh Jacobs, Josh Jacobs is a 624 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 3: great back, and similar to what Klay said, when you 625 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 3: see the Cardinals stat line and you see that they 626 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 3: allowed one hundred and fifty rushing yards against the Seattle Seahawks, 627 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 3: and you see what Jonathan Taylor was able to do. 628 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 3: Offensive coordinators recognize that. Offensive head coaches recognize that, and 629 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,959 Speaker 3: they say, hey, we're about to just double down on it. 630 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 3: We saw that you guys struggled with it, and we're 631 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 3: going to have a backup plan ready to go that 632 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 3: we'll be able to air it out if needed. The Cardinals, 633 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 3: they're just definitely gonna need to be aware on that 634 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 3: defensive front all the different schemes that they do with 635 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 3: their with their run blocking schemes, they have to try 636 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 3: to do whatever they can to try to stop and 637 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 3: limit the run to the best of their ability. 638 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: And it goes back to what we were talking about earlier 639 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 1: here on Cardinals Cover two. If you have a healthy 640 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: Darius Robinson back, certainly Belond Nichols back, and all of 641 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: a sudden, that rotation you don't have to rely on 642 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 1: Zach Carter or Anthony Goodlow good players, but practice squad 643 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: for a reason. You've got starters, and then you've got backups, 644 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: and then you've got practice squad players. Everyone has a 645 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 1: role and roles change. But there's a reason why Darius 646 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,080 Speaker 1: Robinson was a first round pick. There's a reason and 647 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: why Balon Nichols was signed in free agency a couple 648 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: of offseasons ago. So have a little bit more of 649 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: a rotation to where, yeah, Kalayus is gonna play his 650 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 1: thirty to thirty five snaps, but maybe you keep him 651 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 1: fresher for that fourth quarter as opposed to playing him 652 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: more in the first step. Because we know the issues 653 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 1: that this defense has had in the fourth quarter. Are 654 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,719 Speaker 1: they are they getting tired in the fourth quarter or 655 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: is it more just hey being better on the details, 656 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 1: being better with technique just to get that one more stop. 657 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 3: And I think because of what we discussed with balaon 658 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 3: Nichols having to miss the game and being ruled as 659 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 3: out during that because of a personal reason, it forced 660 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 3: Kalayis to be in the rotation a lot more earlier 661 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 3: on in the game than he's otherwise used to and 662 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 3: that's why his snap total or his percentage for career 663 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 3: for snaps in the game was at a season high 664 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 3: this past week. But at the end of the day, 665 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 3: Darius Robinson's going to be the player that you need 666 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 3: to keep your eye on because he's still a first 667 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 3: round talent that you're waiting to kind of have that game, 668 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 3: that statement game that shows why you were worthy of 669 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 3: that top twenty five selection. Hopefully, hopefully it's this week. 670 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 3: You want to be able to do it and you 671 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 3: want to be able to go to the bye week 672 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 3: with that sense of confidence. The bye week last year 673 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 3: is when Darius Robinson was his last week away from 674 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 3: football before he came back. So hopefully going into the 675 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 3: bye week this year, he has that confidence again similar 676 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 3: to how he had it last year, knowing that he 677 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 3: was going to be making his return soon. 678 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 1: What else about this matchup or anything about this game 679 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 1: on Sunday before we cut you loose because I know 680 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: you've got to you got, you got, you got some 681 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 1: stuff that needs to get done before Sunday. 682 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 4: I'm just this team needs a win. 683 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 3: They just that's what it comes down to at the 684 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 3: end of the day, however it looks, however it looks, 685 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 3: you need to taste what winning feels like. Again, so 686 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 3: many of the players have been asked like in the 687 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 3: locker room, would you rather have a blowout or the 688 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 3: type of losses that you guys have had. 689 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 4: Neither. 690 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 3: You just want to win the game, and you feel 691 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 3: for these guys in the locker room. And it's interesting 692 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 3: because I might have said it to you, or I 693 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 3: might have said it to Darren, who you think is me, 694 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 3: But I said that this doesn't feel like a locker 695 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 3: room that's lost for straight The guys are laughing, they're 696 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 3: having fun together, the defensive guys talking to offensive guys. 697 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,959 Speaker 3: When locker rooms are in turmoil, that does not happen 698 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 3: at all, especially in front of the media, because sometimes 699 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 3: people want to make a statement that has not happened. 700 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 3: That hasn't been the case. So to see the locker 701 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 3: room and the way that it is right now to 702 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 3: get back into the win column and to feel good 703 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 3: about it. 704 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 4: This team needs that. 705 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 1: They really do walk off the field Sunday going into 706 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: the bye week with your head held high because not 707 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: only did you play well, but you played well enough 708 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 1: to beat your opponent, in this case, the Green Bay Packers. Yeah, 709 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 1: we can debate after the fact how it looked, but 710 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: I think if you get that feeling of what it 711 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 1: means to win a ball game in the NFL, because 712 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: when in the NFL is hard, it's difficult, and you 713 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: go into that bye week feeling better about not only 714 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 1: yourself personally, but the team as well. And then when 715 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,479 Speaker 1: you get back going into the Dallas Cowboys game, Okay, 716 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 1: let's dissect. Hey, we got the win, but we got 717 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 1: the win. Okay, let's correct this. I understand sometimes it 718 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 1: does matter how how a win looks, but I think 719 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 1: at this point, I think it's an excellent point, Zach, 720 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:24,479 Speaker 1: that you just need a w whether it's thirty three 721 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:28,720 Speaker 1: to thirty or it's thirteen to ten, whatever it takes 722 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 1: to be one point better than the Packers at State 723 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 1: Farm Stadium. 724 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,879 Speaker 3: The Cardinals started off the season last year at two 725 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 3: and four and then they were able to get to 726 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 3: six and four. They it's not impossible. That's what I 727 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,240 Speaker 3: think this is. Right now, some of the best teams 728 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 3: in the league are about to start losing games. You 729 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 3: mentioned it. The Cleveland Browns beat the Green Bay Packers. 730 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,839 Speaker 3: The Dallas Cowboys tied with the Green Bay Packers. That 731 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 3: tie is going to make a huge difference when it 732 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 3: comes to seeding. It comes December and January as the playoffs. 733 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 3: You just hope that this Cardinals team has an opportunity 734 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 3: to even be in that conversation when it comes to 735 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,359 Speaker 3: December and January, you start losing these games because your 736 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 3: schedule is only gonna get tougher. They have the toughest 737 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 3: strength to schedule in the NFL at the moment, if 738 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,759 Speaker 3: you're able to start chipping away and start calling your 739 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 3: way back to five hundred and then you go from 740 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 3: there and you go, all, right, now we're potentially four 741 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 3: and four. What can we do? How can we start 742 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,879 Speaker 3: to improve? They're gonna be if If that's the case 743 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 3: and they get to four and four, which means that 744 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 3: they win these next two games. You go into Seattle 745 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 3: with a four and four record. Now I know I'm 746 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 3: looking way ahead right now. But that's the truth. The 747 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 3: Cardinals team has an opportunity to claw their way back 748 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 3: into it, but it starts with one and that one 749 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 3: has to be on Sunday against the Green Bay Packers. 750 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,840 Speaker 1: Now it does start earlier on Sunday. If you happen 751 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,439 Speaker 1: to be bird Gang at the game on Sunday at 752 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 1: the parking lot the Green Lawn, pay attention. I'll be 753 00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 1: there because you might get a chance to meet and 754 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 1: say hello to Darren Urban aka Zach Kershman. 755 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 3: All right, all right, now we're taking it a little 756 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 3: too far here. I will be out on the Great 757 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 3: Lawn starting right around ten o'clock I think, so early morning. 758 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 3: Get your tailgate on. Then you could go inside the 759 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 3: stadium and have the happiest hour and football, I'm pretty sure, 760 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 3: is what we call it. And get all your other beverages, 761 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 3: but make sure they they're a but light. 762 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,839 Speaker 4: Well done, Zach, very well done. You're learning. I try young, 763 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:29,720 Speaker 4: Zach is learning, try my best. 764 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 1: It should be a lot of fun, not only pregame, 765 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:36,280 Speaker 1: but hopefully the game itself on Sunday. Cardinals and Hackers 766 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 1: one twenty five is to kick off. We'll get it 767 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:42,320 Speaker 1: started eight thirty am. Pregame covers begins on the Arizona 768 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,319 Speaker 1: Cardinals Radio Network, and on that notes, we will put 769 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,840 Speaker 1: a lid on this edition of Cardinals Cover two, presented 770 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,360 Speaker 1: by a Hundai, proudly partner of the Arizona Cardinals. 771 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:51,760 Speaker 4: As always, special thanks. 772 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 1: To our executive producer Jim Mama Hunter, our associate producer 773 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:58,800 Speaker 1: Coddy Fincher for Zach Kershman, Darren Urban, I'm Craig Rayelou. 774 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 4: We'll talk to you next time here Cardinals Cover two