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Speaker 1: Here we go, the official show on the Fish Stripes

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Speaker 1: podcast channel. I'm Eli Sussman, the managing editor of Fish Stripes,

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Speaker 1: where we cover the Miami Marlins every day in our

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Speaker 1: Coming off what was frankly a devastating week for the

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Speaker 1: Marlins on a couple different fronts, they did end it

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Speaker 1: on a high note. As we're about to get into

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Speaker 1: We're on a pretty long streak of these solo episodes

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Speaker 1: from me, so we're going to shake it up a

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Speaker 1: little bit here. Most of the show is not me

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Speaker 1: a recording that I did on a locker room that

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Speaker 1: app if you don't already have it downloaded. All sorts

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Speaker 1: of sports conversations that are audio only between quote unquote

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Speaker 1: experts or just enthusiasts, a correct way to get people

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Speaker 1: I recorded it with Jake Slobodnik and Nathan Hirsch from

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Speaker 1: Bucks Dugout that is our Pittsburgh Pirates sister site from

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Speaker 1: Fists Stripes that we just reacted to various things from

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Speaker 1: that series between the Pirates and the Marlins, with the

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Speaker 1: Pirates taking three out of four, a couple of those

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Speaker 1: games especially heartbreaking, and that the Marlins let late ending

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Speaker 1: his back. So there's lots to digest there, but a

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Speaker 1: lot of also big picture conversation about the state of

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Speaker 1: the Marlins and the Pirates. Before getting into that, I'm

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Speaker 1: hits from the recent games that really stuck out to me.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes brevity is not my strong suit, but for the

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Speaker 1: Then after that getting into the elephants in the organization,

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Speaker 1: the fact that this Marlins offense has been mediocre for

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Speaker 1: coming immediately immediately, starting on Tuesday, and then after that

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Speaker 1: shouting out some minor leaguers of the week in the

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Speaker 1: Marlins organization that deserve props for the way they performed

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Speaker 1: in recent series. The takeaways at the major league level

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Speaker 1: from those games. In Pittsburgh Thursday night, Eliezer Hernandez comes

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Speaker 1: Looked great during his rehab starts. He looked great in

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Speaker 1: where he's ruled out for the next couple months. I

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Speaker 1: I don't understand what the team is doing with Jose Devers.

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Speaker 1: The fact that he has now spent he skipped the

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Speaker 1: me about it, where Hasius Sanchez picked up thirty three

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Speaker 1: days of service time in twenty twenty. He picked up

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Speaker 1: I believe nineteen days of service time earlier this year

435
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Speaker 1: when he was on the Major League injured list got healthy.

436
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Speaker 1: The Marlins option to him. It stopped his service time clock,

437
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Speaker 1: paused it at fifty two days. And if they hold

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Speaker 1: him down until you know, Tuesday, by the time they

439
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Speaker 1: bring him back up, he'll have a maximum of one

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Speaker 1: hundred and seventy days of service time in by the

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Speaker 1: end of twenty twenty one. And that's such a key

442
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Speaker 1: number because when you get to one seventy one, it

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Speaker 1: rounds up and counts as a full year of service time.

444
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Speaker 1: But by very carefully threading that needle on that threshold

445
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Speaker 1: and capping him at one hundred and seventy days to

446
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Speaker 1: get to by the end of this year, it ensures

447
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Speaker 1: that this still does not count as a full year

448
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Speaker 1: of service time, and he is still six full years remaining.

449
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Speaker 1: Because that's how free agency is, six full years of

450
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Speaker 1: service time. You become an unrestricted free agent I don't

451
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Speaker 1: think this is a coincidence. You know, I spoke about

452
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Speaker 1: Hayesus a few weeks ago how it made so much

453
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Speaker 1: sense to call him up for that road trip going

454
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Speaker 1: through the Red Sox and the Blue Jays when have

455
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Speaker 1: the designated hitter. They declined to do so they lost

456
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 1: all those games, whoops, And as like digging deeper, the

457
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Speaker 1: only theory that really comes to mind is that potentially

458
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 1: service time is at play that they're so confident in

459
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Speaker 1: him at this point in the adjustments that he's made.

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Speaker 1: When they bring him up, they expect him to stay

461
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Speaker 1: and they want him to stay for that extra year

462
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Speaker 1: through twenty twenty seven instead of through twenty twenty six.

463
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Speaker 1: So I'm recording this on Sunday night, I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 1: you're not going to see him call him up called

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Speaker 1: up on Monday. And there's a very sparticular reason for this,

466
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Speaker 1: because it's on Tuesday that that service time threshold. That's

467
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Speaker 1: one that becomes a factor for Hayeshu Sanchez. As if

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Speaker 1: they don't call him up on Tuesday, then I think

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Speaker 1: this is a topic that we need to start questioning

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Speaker 1: pretty much every single days as a Marlins community. Is

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Speaker 1: why he's not up here. He has nothing left to prove,

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Speaker 1: and there are creative ways as I outlined, to insert

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Speaker 1: him into this active roster that makes sense. So we

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Speaker 1: close out this first segment with my minor League Minor League,

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Speaker 1: my Marlins prospects of the Week. Well, for a change,

476
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Speaker 1: Hayesius Sanchez does not quite make the cut this week.

477
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Speaker 1: A lot of good stories in the Marlins farm system

478
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Speaker 1: instead starting on the pitching side. This is why I

479
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Speaker 1: wait until the very end of the week before recording this,

480
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Speaker 1: because the last game that anyone in the organization played

481
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Speaker 1: this week was Double A Pensacola against the Mississippi Braves

482
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Speaker 1: at Double A and Jake Eder, the Marlins fourth round

483
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Speaker 1: draft pick from last year, got the start. There were

484
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Speaker 1: high expectations for him. He's been incredible all year and

485
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Speaker 1: this was as good as we've ever seen him because

486
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Speaker 1: he was perfect. He was literally perfect. He faced fifteen batters,

487
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Speaker 1: he retired fifteen batters, and he struck out the majority

488
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Speaker 1: of those guys, eight of the fifteen. It with a

489
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Speaker 1: pleasure to watch that fastball, that breaking ball that he has.

490
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Speaker 1: He had a one ending where he threw twelve pitches,

491
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Speaker 1: all them strikes The efficiency in this outing was crazy,

492
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Speaker 1: and it made me expect that they would send him

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Speaker 1: out for the sixth inning. He had a perfect game working.

494
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Speaker 1: That's the one knock on his year. So not a knock.

495
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's by design that they have not pushed

496
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Speaker 1: him past five innings yet. I'd be very curious to

497
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Speaker 1: see when they finally changed that. He was perfect honorable

498
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Speaker 1: mentioned to his teammate Max Meyer, who I think wrecked

499
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Speaker 1: up eight or nine strikeouts in his outing earlier in

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Speaker 1: the week. Also, Braxton Garrett had a nice outing at

501
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Speaker 1: Triple A. He may be seeing him in the majors

502
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Speaker 1: in the very near future to help the Marlins fill

503
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Speaker 1: out that rotation. And Marlin's hitting prospect of the week,

504
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Speaker 1: shortstop Nassim Nunez from Low A Jupiter, played in every

505
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Speaker 1: single game this week. He recorded hits in every game

506
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Speaker 1: this week, in most cases more than one hit. Let

507
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Speaker 1: me make sure I got these numbers right. In June,

508
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 1: in these six games that he played, he went twelve

509
00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 1: for twenty seven at the plate as their lead off guy,

510
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: betting four forty four this week, stole one, two, three,

511
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Speaker 1: four bases or is it more than that? At least

512
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Speaker 1: four bases. He continues to be among the minor league

513
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Speaker 1: baseball leaders any affiliation, any level in stolen bases this year,

514
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Speaker 1: although he did get caught also four times this week

515
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Speaker 1: alone with the team. He's a fun guy and Jupiter

516
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: played a pretty solid series against Palm Beach in this

517
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Speaker 1: one and he only do nam always struck out a

518
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Speaker 1: couple times during this week as well. You know, the

519
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 1: overall offensive numbers for him are underwhelming because it doesn't

520
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Speaker 1: hit for any power whatsoever, but he does draw his walks,

521
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Speaker 1: he gets his singles. He even forces the defense to

522
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Speaker 1: make more mistakes than usual reaching on errors. That is

523
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Speaker 1: a skill and for a guy that is a plus

524
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Speaker 1: runner some people would say a plus plus runner, he

525
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Speaker 1: really makes a big impact out there. So that's nice

526
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Speaker 1: to see him because one of the younger guys with

527
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Speaker 1: that affiliate this year playing full season ball, expected to

528
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Speaker 1: stay there for most of the year. An honorable mention

529
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Speaker 1: to Troy Johnston, who began the year in Jupiter but

530
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 1: showed pretty quickly that he was overqualified. He was older

531
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Speaker 1: than the league average, and his offensive production was outstanding

532
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Speaker 1: in Jupiter. He earned a promotion to Clinton to Clinton

533
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Speaker 1: to Beloit this week high a Beloit, and he had

534
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: a pretty terrific week for himself up there in Beloit.

535
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Speaker 1: He's an on base machine and he's piling up extra

536
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Speaker 1: base hits as well. A super late round draft pick

537
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Speaker 1: in that same draft class as Nunia is in twenty nineteen,

538
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Speaker 1: and he has I think pretty clearly exceeded expectations so far.

539
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Speaker 1: Another favorite of Alex Carver from Fish on the Farm.

540
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Speaker 1: So I'm sure he'll be happy that we mentioned Johnston

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Speaker 1: on here. That will wrap it up for this first segment.

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Speaker 1: You know, most of the show was now bring in

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Speaker 1: some new voices, as I said, from Bucks dugout the

544
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Speaker 1: Pirates site. We discussed you know, this series in more

545
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Speaker 1: detail that these teams just played, and some big picture

546
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Speaker 1: questions regarding your Miami Marlins.

547
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Speaker 5: Enjoy The Marlins got a really great pitching performance out

548
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Speaker 5: of Sandy Alcantara and they won. And right now we

549
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Speaker 5: have Eli Sussman of Fish Stripes a part of sbnah. Eli,

550
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Speaker 5: how's it going.

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Speaker 1: It's well, when the team wins for the first time

552
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Speaker 1: in eleven days, it's going pretty good.

553
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Speaker 3: Thanks for inviting me, guys.

554
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Speaker 5: Of course, we're pleased to have you on. Yeah, the

555
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 5: Marlins were struggling a little bit there there. Now it's

556
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Speaker 5: five and thirty three. How many they lost? What? Eight straight?

557
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was their longest losing streak in more than

558
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Speaker 1: six years. The last time they had a losing streak

559
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: this long, they fired their manager and they replaced him

560
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Speaker 1: by putting their GM as their manager.

561
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Speaker 3: I don't know if you guys remember that where the.

562
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 1: Marlins took their GM out of the front office and

563
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Speaker 1: turned him into their manager. And that's where we were

564
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Speaker 1: the last time there was a losing streak like this,

565
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Speaker 1: So it devoked some very painful memories and it's good

566
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Speaker 1: to finally move past that.

567
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Speaker 5: Yeah, they got a nice win today. I will say

568
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Speaker 5: the Marlins do have a very young and exciting team

569
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Speaker 5: right now. Jazz Chisholm junior, he's awesome, and then that

570
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Speaker 5: young pitching staff is really nice. The Marlins, it seems

571
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Speaker 5: like they're they're doing a pretty nice job with their rebuild,

572
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 5: if you will. And then got some former pirates there

573
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Speaker 5: too that we love in Starling Martin and Corey Dickerson.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot to unpack there, for sure.

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Speaker 1: I guess, Well, what's been so strange is that this

576
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: losing streak has coincided with Starling returning from the injured list.

577
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Speaker 1: He has been out for more than a month of

578
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Speaker 1: the year after fracturing a rib, and he had been

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Speaker 1: their best overall player for the first few weeks of

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Speaker 1: the season.

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Speaker 3: They missed him pretty dearly, and yet he came off.

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Speaker 1: The il and he was immediately, you know, back to

583
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Speaker 1: his old self, back to being just an exceptional all

584
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Speaker 1: round player. He's a pending free agent for the first time,

585
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Speaker 1: so I think that's part of the motivation that he's

586
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Speaker 1: playing the best of his career. And it was crazy

587
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Speaker 1: that they've just have not been able to win a

588
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Speaker 1: game for more than a week with him in the

589
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Speaker 1: lineup almost every day.

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Speaker 3: And he had a couple of key plays in this one.

591
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Speaker 1: He had There was that ball in the left center

592
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Speaker 1: field gap really deep that he ran down. I think

593
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Speaker 1: that was send one of those middle dings and to

594
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Speaker 1: keep Sandy al Contra still really efficient.

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Speaker 3: With his pitches, so that added up. I mean, there's

596
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Speaker 3: still a lot of.

597
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Speaker 1: Concerns about this Marlins team, even with those key individuals

598
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Speaker 1: you mentioned, because they've had issues on the left side

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Speaker 1: of their infield. As you saw some uncertainty with their

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Speaker 1: bullpen all of a sudden, and their rotation depth is

601
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Speaker 1: a mess, if you want to talk about.

602
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Speaker 3: That's that's kind of crazy.

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Speaker 1: Most of all, that they've made it this far into

604
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Speaker 1: the year with basically three starting pitchers.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and they have a six dose Sanchez. I'm not

606
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Speaker 5: sure when he's returning, but he's really nice as well.

607
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Speaker 5: It's fun to watch him pitch. I really enjoyed I

608
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Speaker 5: will say this about the Marlins. I really enjoyed last

609
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Speaker 5: season when they kicked the Cubs out of the playoffs,

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Speaker 5: and that was one to watch.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, that was extraordinary achievement for this team. I

612
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Speaker 1: mean it's when you're seventeen years moved from making the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: and most of those years the teams didn't even sniff

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Speaker 1: five hundred. Every little milestone that they reached last year

615
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Speaker 1: was significant. Making the playoffs was a big deal, but

616
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Speaker 1: it was almost just as important to advance in the

617
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Speaker 1: playoffs like that, especially when they were underdogs in that

618
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Speaker 1: series by their starting pitching in that series, and I

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Speaker 1: mean most people didn't.

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Speaker 3: Really expect them to beat the Cubs.

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Speaker 1: You know, the Cubs just had so many of those

622
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Speaker 1: familiar names and the expectation was they would just keep

623
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Speaker 1: doing kind of what they've been doing the last half decades.

624
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Speaker 3: So that was yeah, that was crazy. That was the

625
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Speaker 3: peak of probably enthusiasm around the team.

626
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Speaker 1: Is those cup that day and day and a half

627
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Speaker 1: really celebrating that milestone for sure?

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Speaker 5: For sure, Jake, we got to Brian Hayes back and

629
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Speaker 5: it was very exciting to watch him play. What'd you

630
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Speaker 5: think about his series overall and the Pirates overall this series?

631
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Speaker 6: Well, I will say I remember us talking about it

632
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Speaker 6: after the last series and we both made mention that

633
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Speaker 6: once Key Brian came back, we were gonna definitely see

634
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Speaker 6: the big momentum change in this team. And I think

635
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Speaker 6: that I think that exceeded. Be like any expectations that

636
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Speaker 6: we had, this team just looked like look a lot different.

637
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Speaker 6: In the positive note, when Key Brian came back, they

638
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 6: got another They got their hot young prospect back his

639
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:05,720
Speaker 6: their offense. It was spectacular to say the least. And

640
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Speaker 6: his I'm sure that his glove was missed on the

641
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 6: corner of the endfield. So really his return really fueled

642
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 6: this Pirates team, I think to really win this weekend,

643
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Speaker 6: and I think, uh, going forward, I think that's what we're

644
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Speaker 6: gonna keep seeing. I think we're going to see that

645
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 6: this team is energized by him, that this young this

646
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Speaker 6: young leader if you will, is back and leading the team. Uh,

647
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Speaker 6: and there's no more I guess gaps to fill in

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Speaker 6: and for in terms of leadership and overall talent on

649
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Speaker 6: the field. So I think that had a lot to

650
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Speaker 6: do with this weekend. And with his bat. He was

651
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 6: very hot offensively. I mean we saw a home run

652
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 6: in his second game back, he had multi hit game

653
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 6: his first game back with a triple Like it was

654
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 6: almost like he didn't miss a bed after missing almost

655
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 6: two months on the IL. So it was just spectacular

656
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,439
Speaker 6: to watch, honestly, and I hope that we see more

657
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 6: of this going forward, especially with competition like Daughters coming up.

658
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 6: But overall, I think this team just looked so much

659
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 6: better and more comfortable with Key Brian back.

660
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 7: He looked comfortable to be back.

661
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 6: And yeah, overall, my impressions of this weekend were just

662
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Speaker 6: I know I haven't said much nice about this about

663
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 6: this team on the podcast, but I have lots of

664
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 6: nice things to say about this weekend.

665
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Speaker 7: So that's my impression.

666
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, if I could hop in there.

667
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: I was, this is a pleasure to watch him play,

668
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 1: because obviously these teams did not meet last year with

669
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Speaker 1: the regional schedule. So I've seen Kip Brian's stats from

670
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 1: last year, and I understood all the elements of his

671
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 1: game and exactly why people thought he was as exceptional

672
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 1: as he was, why he was kind of that consensus

673
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: preseason NL Rookie of the Year pick. He was breathtaking

674
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: in this series, and I thought I was nervous in

675
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 1: that eighth inning. He came up in the eighth inning

676
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 1: representing the potential tying run against Sandy l Contra, and

677
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: Sandy was still pretty much on top of his game,

678
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: still throwing ninety three mile per hour change up and

679
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: all that, and even when he got two strikes on Hayes,

680
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: it was one change up after another that was well

681
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 1: located and Hayes either spat on it if it just

682
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: missed the zone, or he was fouling it off. And

683
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: finally he throws one that's just good enough to finish

684
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: him off. But overall, I guess Hayes for the series

685
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: probably hit like five hundred, and the defense as well.

686
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: I mean, there was one play that sticks out to

687
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 1: me that it didn't even look that hard for him,

688
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: but it was a play like way to his left

689
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 1: side that was so effortless. And it's just from watching

690
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 1: him up close. Finally, I mean I've checked in on

691
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: him obviously as a big baseball fan the games that

692
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: he played before his injury in last year. But this

693
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: was a treat just to see him every single play

694
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: for four games of him.

695
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Speaker 3: He's pretty special.

696
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: And yeah, I'm curious about what you guys still think

697
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 1: about his Rookie of the Year chances because now he

698
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: only has what six games under his belt, but if

699
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: he stays healthy the rest of the way, he'll play

700
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: about one hundred of fingers crossed things go well. It

701
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:01,240
Speaker 1: just I mean, his talents is as someone that watches

702
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:05,280
Speaker 1: Jazz Chisholm Junior every day. With all due respect to Jazz,

703
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 1: I don't think it's really a contest that Hayes. Hayes

704
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: just jumps out as an even better all around talent.

705
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Speaker 3: He's amazing.

706
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: I think he still is a guy that it's going

707
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 1: to come down between someone like Trevor Rodgers on the Marlins,

708
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: who obviously pitched pretty well in this series as well.

709
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 3: But I think as long as if.

710
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 1: Anybody's going to like catch Trevor from behind, I think

711
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 1: would be somebody like Hayes. He's got amazing potential.

712
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, definitely. And you know, you guys have a

713
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 6: lot of young talent over there yourself. I wanted to

714
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 6: jump in earlier, but you guys are just going with

715
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 6: the conversation. But I want to flash it back to

716
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 6: all the young talents that the Marlins have.

717
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 7: One thing I want to highlight.

718
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 6: Is we mentioned Jazz Chisholm, but we also mentioned some

719
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 6: of the other young talents on the Marlins, such as

720
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Speaker 6: Trevor Rodgers. You know, he just came out of the

721
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,919
Speaker 6: woodwork and is making his case known for a Rookie

722
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 6: of the Year candidate. I was talking with a Marlins

723
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 6: writer earlier this year, Craig Mish, on another show that

724
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 6: I do, and he highlighted the young talent a lot

725
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 6: and said that there's a lot of potential for the

726
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 6: years to come for the Marlins. What's your take on

727
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 6: the stars besides Rogers and Chisholm, about how they're going

728
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 6: to really lead this team going forward. Now, obviously we

729
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 6: have the younger or the older talents like Hayes Zaki

730
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 6: Lar who had himself a fine weekend this weekend, but

731
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 6: with six zero coming back, and then all the other

732
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 6: young talents that the Marlins have acquired in their rebuild,

733
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 6: what does this say about the future that they have

734
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 6: going forward on top of the young leaders they have.

735
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 3: Now, Yeah, it's been a fun start of the year.

736
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: Before this losing streak, he was kind of encouraging at

737
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,720
Speaker 1: the major league level, and even during this losing streak

738
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 1: and on the minor league level, it's been exceptional where

739
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: it's like some of their consensus top prospects like Max Meyer,

740
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 1: the first round draft pick, he's been as good as

741
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:56,720
Speaker 1: advertised in the minors. Hasius Sanchez and Laywan Diaz, former

742
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: top one hundred prospects.

743
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,399
Speaker 3: They're playing great at TRIPAA, knocking on the door.

744
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 1: But even beyond them, it's been so many pop up

745
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 1: prospects as well already in this short minor league season

746
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:07,240
Speaker 1: that get you really excited.

747
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 3: I guess we're recording this.

748
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 1: Jake Eaters about to make his next start at Double A,

749
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:14,760
Speaker 1: and he's been arguably the most dominant minor league starting

750
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 1: pitcher so far this year. A guy that was picked

751
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 1: all the way in the fourth rounds this past year.

752
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,280
Speaker 1: That there's a lot of confidence in the pitching, obviously,

753
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 1: because we've seen it translate to the major league level

754
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 1: with San di al Contra, with Pablo Lopez, hopefully now

755
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: with six oh Sanchez once he gets healthy. Trevor Rodgers

756
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 1: being the best example because he was totally drafted and

757
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: developed by the organization. That there's so much confidence in

758
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: the pitching and all the waves, even though at the moment,

759
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: as I kind of hinted that they have a big

760
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: issue right now with their current rotation depth at the moment,

761
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: but hopefully that clears up within the next few weeks

762
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 1: and then certainly for the next few years beyond that.

763
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 1: They're in great shape with their pitching staff in every

764
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: sense of the word. But the question is with the offense,

765
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: because they are really being carried a lot by those

766
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: veterans that are kind of year to year, with Haytiuzaguilar

767
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: being the best example. He has beloved in the clubhouse

768
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 1: and by the fan base, and he has kind of

769
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: surprised people by playing even better this year than he

770
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 1: did last year. But he's a first base only guy

771
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 1: who you just go year to year by those guys

772
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 1: do not age well, even though he's made some fun

773
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: changes to his diet this year, hoping to add some longevity.

774
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 1: But guys at his position, with his body type, they

775
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 1: just have those limitations. Starling Marte I referenced him. He's

776
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: been awesome, but he's a pending free agent. They're going

777
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,399
Speaker 1: to have to pay a kind of contract that they've

778
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 1: never paid for anybody since the ownership change if they're

779
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: going to hold on to him. So with those questions,

780
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: with Corey Dickerson about to be a free agent, Adam

781
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 1: Duval likely going to be a free agent, they have

782
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: Those are the guys that have been so important for

783
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,439
Speaker 1: the most part, aside from Jazz Chishom Junior. So many

784
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 1: of these position players, young position players have been busts

785
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: at the major league level.

786
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 3: Some of them the sample is still too small for

787
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 3: you to kind.

788
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: Of dismiss it, but almost everybody that has even gotten

789
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: an opportunity outside from Jazz has not gotten the job

790
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,800
Speaker 1: done at all. And that's kind of the biggest. Well,

791
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,320
Speaker 1: the two big concerns around the team are one about

792
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,839
Speaker 1: spending money, because they reduced payroll heading into this year,

793
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: and it's kind of unclear exactly how aggressive they'll be

794
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 1: in free agency moving forward.

795
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:28,399
Speaker 3: So that's one. Even though they have a new TV deal,

796
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 3: they've new revenue streams, they really don't have any excuses

797
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 3: not to spend. But we'll see if they actually do it.

798
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 1: And then the other one is, yeah, about making these

799
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,359
Speaker 1: hitters actually translate to the majors, because there's just been

800
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 1: so many of these examples where it just has not

801
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: panned out for whatever reason. And so the question is

802
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: whether they finally get a few of these guys to stick,

803
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 1: such as Jazz and when they call up in the

804
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 1: next wave later this year, we should be seeing his

805
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: sus Sanchez and maybe Lewan Diez and a few others.

806
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: But if those guys don't stick, then they're in a

807
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:03,320
Speaker 1: position where a lot to make some very interesting deals

808
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 1: potentially to trade away their surplus of pitching to get

809
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 1: other position players that other organizations have already properly developed.

810
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,760
Speaker 1: That's the big question mark moving forward, And well probably

811
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:15,879
Speaker 1: it's a bigger question really for the off season than

812
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: right now, but still something that I think everybody's focused

813
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 1: on right now among the Marlins community.

814
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,240
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, let me ask you this about Starling

815
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 5: Marte so the Marlins, they're kind of in a position

816
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 5: right now where the trade deadline they could potentially deal

817
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 5: him to get something back, or they could try to

818
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 5: extend him after the season. Like you said, he's a

819
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 5: free agent. What kind of deal do you think that

820
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,399
Speaker 5: Martin might get. I mean, he's thirty two right now.

821
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 5: I wouldn't expect like more than four or so years.

822
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 5: But how much do you think he'll get on the

823
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:51,399
Speaker 5: open market?

824
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 3: Just curious?

825
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, Jake mentioned Craig Mish, who we kind of

826
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 1: correspond with every single day.

827
00:43:58,480 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 3: He's a great Marlin source.

828
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: Early on in the year, he speculated that if Starling

829
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 1: was playing at this level he is currently playing on,

830
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: it would be yeah, four year deal, potentially north of

831
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 1: seventy five million dollars. That seems a little bit of

832
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 1: an overreaction because of just his track record prior to

833
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:16,760
Speaker 1: this year is he hasn't been quite as an elite

834
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: offensive player. If he keeps it up at this level,

835
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 1: I mean, if he is, you know, forty to fifty

836
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 1: percent better than the league average at the plate, if

837
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 1: he's getting on base and hitting for power and you know,

838
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 1: doing everything else he does, then maybe it is in

839
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: the realm of possibility that he gets in the high

840
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 1: seventies or eighties million dollar range something like that. There's

841
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: a long windgo, you know, because of his age, because

842
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: of the history of guys deep into their thirties just

843
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: not sticking in center fields. He's been playing exclusively center

844
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 1: field since the Marlins have had him these parts of

845
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 1: two seasons. But I mean, as the Pirates snow, he

846
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 1: played a lot of left field for them, and I

847
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 1: imagine that that's where he'll be going back to at

848
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 1: some point during the length of his next contract. And

849
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 1: the Marlins fine with that because they just all these

850
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,359
Speaker 1: young outfielders that they have. Some of them have great

851
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: tools and got great scouting reports, and to this point

852
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: in the season, some great results in the minors as well,

853
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 1: but they just have not You cannot trust them in

854
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 1: the majors at this point. So Marlins really have questions

855
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,720
Speaker 1: at every outfield spot for the moment, and so they'd

856
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 1: be thrilled to have Marte in there somewhere. But there's

857
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 1: going to be that temptation, as you mentioned that the deadline,

858
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:29,240
Speaker 1: so many teams are going to be inquiring about him.

859
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: I mean, to me, I think it's a fairly simple. Well,

860
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: it's not simple. It kind of depends, of course, on

861
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,399
Speaker 1: how the team performance does. We'll see exactly how much

862
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 1: a level things out like. I don't think I didn't

863
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: really phrase it this way so far on this chat,

864
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: but this has been a pretty devastating week for the team.

865
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 1: I mean, it's great that they finish off with a win,

866
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 1: but that's their only win in this entire week, and

867
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: they have these so many questions about their current roster

868
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: that's just hard to imagine them even flirting with five

869
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: hundred have any sort of interesting thing moving forward. I

870
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 1: feel like they've kind of played their best baseball already

871
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: and it just has not made a whole lot of difference,

872
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: even in a pretty mediocre division to this point. So

873
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 1: there's just I think it's relatively clear that there's just

874
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 1: not a whole lot riding on this current season, which

875
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 1: is going to lead to the temptation of maybe flipping Marte.

876
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: It's just that we've seen recently in baseball that these

877
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: guys on the final years of their contract, no matter

878
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 1: how good they are, you just don't get very much

879
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: in return. That's the thing is that no matter what,

880
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 1: even if they create a bidding war among different teams.

881
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 1: You're not going to get a big package for anybody

882
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:41,760
Speaker 1: that is on an expiring deal like he is. It's

883
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: so I frankly, at this moment, it's hard to really

884
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 1: see what direction they're.

885
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 3: Going to go.

886
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: I have to double check my understanding because this is

887
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 1: an expiring collective bargaining agreement. I think they still do

888
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 1: have that option of making a qualifying offer to him

889
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 1: after the year, which I feel like would almost be

890
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 1: the equivalent value of what they would actually get in.

891
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 3: A trade if they traded him during the year. These

892
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 3: it's a lot of questions.

893
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 1: It's a murky situation, and I imagine it's one that

894
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:11,879
Speaker 1: they're going to kind of hold out on as close

895
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 1: to the deadline as possible. So that's kind of the

896
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 1: easiest answer is that this is going to probably go

897
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 1: down pretty close to the deadline. In terms of deciding

898
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 1: how to play it with Starling Marte, I.

899
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 5: Want to do. I will say this about Starling Marte.

900
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 5: I just looked up his stats and it's only been

901
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 5: about one hundred played appearances, but it blows my mind

902
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 5: that right now he's a twelve point four walk rate.

903
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 5: His career marks at about five percent, but yeah, he's

904
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 5: got potential to be a three hundred, four hundred and

905
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 5: five hundred guy. This season is on base right now,

906
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 5: it's four to h two. Once again, that blew my

907
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 5: mind because with the Pirates in general, he always was

908
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 5: kind of he didn't have a bad on bass per se.

909
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 5: I mean, his career on base percent is just three

910
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 5: forty two. That's nothing to complain about. But he was

911
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 5: always kind of just really draw that many walks, to

912
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,839
Speaker 5: be honest, But this year, I mean that paired with

913
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 5: his hit ability in general. I mean, he's always been

914
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 5: a really good hitter, and I was reminded watching this

915
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 5: series just how damn rangee he is out there in

916
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 5: center field still at this age. It's really impressive to watch.

917
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,800
Speaker 5: So I definitely will be interested to see what happens

918
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 5: with Darlie Moore Tay whenever it's time for him to

919
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 5: get a new contract.

920
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 1: There's a lot of enthusiasm among the fan base to

921
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,399
Speaker 1: bring him back for sure. I Mean, what will point

922
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 1: out is that the Marlins, their pay roll outlook is

923
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: tremendous all things considered. The biggest obligation on their payroll

924
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,399
Speaker 1: moving forward is believe it or not, it's money they

925
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,839
Speaker 1: owe the Yankees for gian Carlos Stanton, they still owe

926
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,479
Speaker 1: thirty million dollars on the back end of his deal

927
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 1: that gets paid in the middle of the decade, and

928
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:56,240
Speaker 1: that that contract alone is more than the total value

929
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 1: of all the actual player contracts of their own players

930
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: that on the books beyond this year. They could go

931
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 1: in so many different directions. I mean, they do have

932
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 1: some guys that are coming up on arbitration finally, and

933
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: we'll be getting some decent raises from that. But they

934
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: still have so much wiggle room if they want to

935
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 1: go after almost any individual player they desire, and someone

936
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 1: like Marte, he's going to cost more money than they

937
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 1: they've spent on free agents in the recent past. And

938
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 1: one thing that Craig Mish did bring up on I

939
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 1: think his own podcast recently is the potential concern that

940
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: because the Marlins paid Corey Dickerson a couple a two year,

941
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 1: seventeen point five million dollar deal and that so far

942
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 1: has not really worked out the way they were expecting,

943
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,879
Speaker 1: his power has totally disappeared each of the last two years,

944
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 1: that may make them kind of apprehensive about spending in

945
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 1: free agency. Even a much larger total for a guy

946
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 1: when you know they've tried that didn't work out with

947
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: Adam Duval was a much smaller investment. But so far

948
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 1: with him, it's been a really weird year where he's

949
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 1: been exceptional defensively and he's been driving in a lot

950
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 1: of runs, but he just doesn't get on base enough

951
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: whatsoever to make it like a really consistent offense that overall,

952
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: with these free agent moves they've made so far, the

953
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 1: kind of mediocre results may make them shy away a

954
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 1: little bit from bringing anybody back, But of course they

955
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 1: kind of know Mark. They have this luxury of knowing

956
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 1: Marte pretty well at this point, from having him down

957
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: the stretch last year, having him around in the playoffs

958
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: even though he got hurt in the playoffs, and then

959
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 1: around this year.

960
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 3: So it's it's it's a really fascinating question. Probably another

961
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 3: wrinkle to.

962
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 1: It is if they do trade him, would he consider

963
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 1: actually coming back as a free agent even after that happens.

964
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 3: You know that has happens a couple.

965
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 1: Times in recent baseball history, but obviously not with the

966
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 1: Marlins in that situation, that would be, you know, the

967
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 1: best of all worlds. I guess because, as I already said,

968
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: you know, this losing streak really dashed a lot of

969
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,839
Speaker 1: the goals they had for this season. It's just hard

970
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: to really see that path to being even like on

971
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 1: the outside of playoff contention that, yeah, the best of

972
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 1: all worlds would be to trade him and get a

973
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 1: lot in return and then sign him.

974
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 3: A deal that everybody's comfortable with. But yeah, it's really

975
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 3: hard to thread that needle.

976
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel that as a fan of a team

977
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:18,800
Speaker 5: without the luxury of spending a dime, I definitely feel

978
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 5: that shipping back to the Pirates a little bit. I

979
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 5: do want to say, Brian Hayes, I mean, he's played

980
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 5: six games, he's already fifth on among Pirates position players

981
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 5: in f ward at a zero point four, So that's

982
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 5: pretty hilarious. I'll say two, it is. It's nice. It's

983
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:40,320
Speaker 5: refreshing to see that the Pirates have a pretty decent

984
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,720
Speaker 5: top four now with Colin Moran back in their lineup,

985
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 5: and even if you want to say top five with

986
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 5: Stallings in there, it's nice to see the Pirates have

987
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:54,439
Speaker 5: a major league offense right now at this point. Jake,

988
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 5: I don't know what do you think about that.

989
00:51:57,880 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 7: It is nice to see.

990
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 6: It's definitely a good change of patience, especially as you

991
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 6: mentioned it's for a franchise. It really doesn't spend much

992
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 6: on the team. To get the production from at least

993
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 6: half of your lineup is something that I think not

994
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:11,359
Speaker 6: many people if you were to go up and tell

995
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 6: him that, I feel like they'd laugh in your face.

996
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 6: But it's good to see that happen, especially with Key

997
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 6: Brian back. I just think it's going to keep going up.

998
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 6: As far as say, like Stallings or Moran, that's a

999
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 6: big question mark because Stallings, he's not that consistent.

1000
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 7: Hitter that could I guess.

1001
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 6: I guess I could really go up there and you know,

1002
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 6: improve his individual bar. But I mean he delivers in

1003
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:39,359
Speaker 6: the clutch, which might have a skewed effect on it.

1004
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 6: But overall, I'm glad to see that Key Brian Hayes

1005
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 6: is back, and I don't think it should come as

1006
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 6: a shock to most people that his f war is

1007
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 6: already is already like right there with all the top

1008
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 6: players on the team.

1009
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 7: I mean, we kind of knew this going.

1010
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:57,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, we got a speaker request right here, Garrett. Garrett's

1011
00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 5: what is what's going on?

1012
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 3: Man, what's going on?

1013
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 8: Nathan? What's going on?

1014
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 3: Jake?

1015
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 7: What's going on?

1016
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:03,240
Speaker 8: Eli?

1017
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 7: I was listening for a bit.

1018
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 9: I wanted to wait before I before I started to

1019
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:10,839
Speaker 9: hop in here the like I said, both obviously both

1020
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 9: both of these teams unfortunately probably aren't going to defense

1021
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 9: season about five hundred, but they, like as Jerry mentioned

1022
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 9: in the chat, I mean, they meet later on this

1023
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 9: season in September, and I think, like, you're gonna see

1024
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 9: like a ton of young talents on that field, uh

1025
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 9: because like because normally as most teams who are out

1026
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 9: of like we're out of the race by late and season,

1027
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:35,439
Speaker 9: they're playing a tourn of their young talents that they've

1028
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 9: that they've had on the farm, uh for either either

1029
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 9: for a couple of years for most of the season.

1030
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 9: But Nathan, I'm not sure if it was your Jake

1031
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 9: that brought that brought up Corey dicks on Eli who

1032
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 9: brought it up. But I think if the Marllins decided

1033
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 9: not to like trade Starlin and maybe try to resign

1034
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 9: him in the off season, or whether they trade them

1035
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 9: the or signed them, seeing whichever they prefer, would they

1036
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:04,399
Speaker 9: would I mean, would the Mallins one consider trading Corey

1037
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 9: Dickerson and maybe just trying to recoup some of the

1038
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 9: value that they haven't got out of him, and just

1039
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 9: maybe try to maybe get one of their young guys,

1040
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 9: one of the young outfitters who are who are uh?

1041
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 7: Who are who are coming up?

1042
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 9: And for you, Nathan, since I think you cover the

1043
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 9: Pirates here, how like how many AB's or games or

1044
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 9: whatever do you think it'll do? You think it would

1045
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 9: take if if he has anything for Colin Moran, do

1046
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 9: you think for him to maybe be able to at

1047
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 9: least a qual enough trade value where the pirates can

1048
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 9: where the Powers probably definitely consider trading him.

1049
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 8: Come, there's a lot there first trade, if not beforehand.

1050
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll let you take that first one first. Yeah.

1051
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 3: Well that's the dream.

1052
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 1: The dream for them would be to flip Corey Dickerson

1053
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: to get something in return. I just don't think that's

1054
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: realistic right now, because you know, last year he was shaky.

1055
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:57,800
Speaker 1: Last year even his defense was kind of uncharacteristically shaky

1056
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,280
Speaker 1: for a guy that kind of recently won that Actional

1057
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 1: League Gold Glove, as you guys will probably remember. And

1058
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 1: then this year his defense has been a little bit better,

1059
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 1: but just no power whatsoever. Even though we did finally

1060
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 1: hit a home run this week, only a second one

1061
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 1: of the season.

1062
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 3: It's just strange.

1063
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 1: I mean, there's really nothing in his underlying just watching

1064
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 1: him every day, there's just not a whole lot of

1065
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 1: confidence in him snapping back into.

1066
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 3: His old form.

1067
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 1: It really is a pretty big mystery about how he

1068
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 1: was hitting for great power down the stretch in twenty nineteen,

1069
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 1: and that's what the Marlins were banking on getting and

1070
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:34,879
Speaker 1: that has not come through. For watching him every day,

1071
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:37,800
Speaker 1: you know, an unfortunate thing that sticks out, I think

1072
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 1: more so.

1073
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 3: Than anybody else in baseball. That's not an exaggeration.

1074
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:43,840
Speaker 1: I think more so than any other player in baseball,

1075
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 1: he disappoints with runners in scoring position.

1076
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,240
Speaker 3: I mean, the overall numbers.

1077
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 1: Are kind of alright, you know, close to the league

1078
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,720
Speaker 1: average as a player overall, but with runners in scoring position,

1079
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:56,399
Speaker 1: he just consistently does not get the job done.

1080
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 3: And today I.

1081
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:02,359
Speaker 1: Kind of sarcastically tweeted out that he got a run

1082
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 1: in because of an error by the Pirates when he

1083
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 1: was up at that with a couple of runners on potential.

1084
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 3: Double play ball that he hit or one that should.

1085
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 1: Have been an easy out and they kind of lucked

1086
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 1: out to take the lead, and they didn't get that

1087
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 1: lead back. Really, the only thing he has going for

1088
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 1: him is that he puts the ball in play. He

1089
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:20,839
Speaker 1: is a good teammate, of course and all that, but

1090
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 1: I just don't think he helps. I don't think any

1091
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 1: like contending team would want to actually play him in any.

1092
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:29,359
Speaker 3: Sort of regular role. There's all that money that he's owed.

1093
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 1: Even if the Marlins eat all the money, I just

1094
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 1: don't know he has much positive.

1095
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 3: Trade value at the moment. So we'll see.

1096
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 1: You know, there's a long way to go until the deadline,

1097
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 1: but that's kind that's definitely what they're hoping for, is

1098
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,840
Speaker 1: that there's some sort of resurgence and that something clicks

1099
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 1: in him, because that has not been the case, you know,

1100
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:47,399
Speaker 1: so far in his Marlins career.

1101
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, I will say the whenever Corey Dickerson was on

1102
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:56,359
Speaker 5: the Pirates that I kind of like expected that that

1103
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 5: twenty home run guy. But I feel like he had

1104
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 5: a in approach where he used to be, like, you know,

1105
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 5: a two sixty hitter, where he'd hit twenty five or

1106
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 5: so home runs, But when he came to the Pirates,

1107
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 5: he just sold out completely for contact. And I mean

1108
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 5: he hit three hundred with the Pirates, which was nice,

1109
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 5: but yeah, the power.

1110
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 3: Was just sapped.

1111
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 5: And like you see it too, his his two strike

1112
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 5: approach where it's like he chokes up halfway.

1113
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:22,439
Speaker 1: Up the bat.

1114
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 5: It's it's kind of funny to watch on Moran. I'll

1115
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 5: say this, Jake, you could tackle this too. So with

1116
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 5: Colin Moran, I mean I will say I have always

1117
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 5: been a Colin Moran hater, but I have turned around

1118
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 5: and I do enjoy watching him play. And like I

1119
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 5: kind of mentioned earlier, it is nice to see an actual,

1120
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:46,959
Speaker 5: real life, breathing first baseman that can hit. This year,

1121
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 5: I mean he is hitting. He's hitting two ninety seven,

1122
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 5: three fifty two, four sixty eight with the one twenty

1123
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 5: seven WRC. Plus He's not great in the field, he's decent.

1124
00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 5: I just he's a decent first baseman in trade value wise.

1125
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 5: I mean he's a free agent in twenty twenty four,

1126
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 5: so he does have some years of control. I mean

1127
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 5: maybe a team needs a DH and like or first basement,

1128
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 5: but trade value wise, I just they could definitely get

1129
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 5: something for him. I just I don't think it'll be

1130
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 5: I don't think it'll be a ton Jake, what do

1131
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 5: you think?

1132
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, I I've been to calling Marianne fans since day one, and.

1133
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 7: I don't think.

1134
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 6: I know that's hard to think of because we traded

1135
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 6: away Garrett Cole for him, but I think he was

1136
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 6: a very promising guy, and considering the Pirates organizational depth

1137
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 6: at first Base isn't quite what we want it to be.

1138
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 6: I don't see us trying to get rid of marian

1139
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 6: as soon as some people may think. Right the only

1140
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 6: and there's a lot of good factors that go with

1141
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 6: marian such as his defense and a stick, but there's

1142
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 6: also a few negative tangibles that people don't really approve of.

1143
00:58:58,240 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 7: One of them is his speed.

1144
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 6: He has no speed all and he his full on

1145
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 6: sprint looks like he's dogging it.

1146
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 7: I'm just gonna put it out there like that, and

1147
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 7: I'm just being truthful just from what I'm seeing.

1148
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 6: And I don't think his trade value is necessarily high

1149
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 6: right now, and as Nathan mentioned, he still has years

1150
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 6: of control in his contract.

1151
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 7: I don't think. I don't.

1152
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 6: I don't really think the Pirates are ready to ship

1153
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 6: him off just yet. Maybe once we get to maybe

1154
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 6: two years left. Maybe one Murray he's in his last

1155
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 6: year or something like that. We might see a little

1156
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 6: bit of trade talks because I think with the Will

1157
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 6: Craig experiment failing, but maybe Martin promising to be a

1158
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 6: good first basement in the Pirates organization. I think that

1159
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 6: it's too scarce right now to really start considering deals

1160
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 6: for Moran. I think we're gonna keep him around for

1161
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 6: a few more years, especially with his consistent offense. I

1162
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 6: think he's going to be part of the team for

1163
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 6: the next few years. No, it's not, you know, not

1164
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 6: negative to say that he could be traded in the

1165
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 6: next few years. Maybe someone will you know, reverse archer

1166
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 6: Us with Miran. But I don't think that we're gonna

1167
00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 6: get I don't think we're gonna start hearing offers from

1168
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 6: ran here uh in the coming and then and then.

1169
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 8: Okay, oh my bad, Nathan.

1170
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 5: Oh no, go ahead, go ahead.

1171
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 9: Well number one, I did not know Marin wasn gonna

1172
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 9: be a free agent until twenty twenty four.

1173
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 8: That is news to me. Thank thank you Nathan and

1174
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 8: Jake for bringing that up. I did not know that.

1175
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 9: I thought he was a free agent closer, But I

1176
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 9: guess that that just showed I don't follow the Powates enough.

1177
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 9: So that's a little wrong on my part, but it's

1178
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 9: it's okay. I mean, you give me you living your learne.

1179
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 9: That's the blessing of being in a note, being able

1180
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 9: to talk to people like y'all who follow follow these teams.

1181
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 9: So so now, I mean, okay, So now I think

1182
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 9: I think that was That was the only question I

1183
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 9: really had was really what called Marink. I thought he

1184
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 9: was close to free agency. Apparently he's not. Apparently he's

1185
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:47,920
Speaker 9: like really he's now he's like three years away instead

1186
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 9: of like a year or year and a half away.

1187
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 9: So thank you for bringing that to my attention. I

1188
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 9: definitely appreciate it.

1189
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 1: Co Well, you know who's a guy is coming in

1190
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 1: that same situation, probably even more valuable to the Pirates

1191
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 1: than Marin is Jacob Stallings.

1192
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 3: And he's a guy that on.

1193
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 1: Marlins Twitter there we're falling in love with him, just

1194
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 1: because that just speaks to how much of a mess

1195
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 1: Marlins catching position has been, you know, the last couple

1196
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 1: of years. But I know he has a million years

1197
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 1: of control left in him and all that is there

1198
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 1: any inkling that he's a guy that is there any

1199
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:26,440
Speaker 1: price that the Pirates would be willing to accept on

1200
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 1: him at like coming up?

1201
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 3: Maybe not in the trade.

1202
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:30,920
Speaker 1: I'm sure that's probably a better question for like the

1203
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 1: off season than the trade deadline. But yeah, I'm curious

1204
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:37,920
Speaker 1: about you guys think about that because with the Marlins,

1205
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 1: they just are really in a bind with with that position,

1206
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 1: you know, right now and then for the foreseeable future,

1207
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 1: because there's just not that many of those impact catchers

1208
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 1: that become available in free agency, and the team just

1209
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 1: as not of any prospects that are anywhere like close

1210
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 1: to being in the majors and coming up through their

1211
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 1: own system at the position, So they're just kind of

1212
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 1: grasping at any decent that's out there on a potential

1213
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 1: selling team. Yeah, what's the situation with him and like

1214
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 1: how he fits with the Pirates future.

1215
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, the thing with Stallings, it's funny because he came

1216
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 5: up he was not highly regarded. He is the true

1217
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 5: definition of a grinder, say, because he really did earn

1218
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 5: his current spot now and I like Stallings. I mean,

1219
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 5: once again, he's thirty one right now and he's a

1220
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 5: free agent in twenty twenty five, so it's gonna be

1221
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 5: a while for him. If I was the Pirates, I

1222
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 5: would most definitely listen on Jacob Stallings if the team

1223
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 5: wants to kind of overpay a bit for that. I mean,

1224
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 5: he has been really good, h solid defense, and then

1225
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 5: if you get a WRC plus of one to twelve

1226
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 5: out of your catcher, I mean you can't complain at all.

1227
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 5: He gets on base, he walks, he he's just he's

1228
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 5: a nice guy I feel like to have in the

1229
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:57,440
Speaker 5: clubhouse too. I feel like his teammates like him. Like

1230
01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 5: Jake said, he has been clutch as hell this season.

1231
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 5: He's He's come up with many big hits.

1232
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 3: But I'm not sure.

1233
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 7: The thing with the Pirates too.

1234
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 5: Though, is besides Stallings, there is absolutely zero catching catching

1235
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 5: depth whatsoever. So if they trade him, I mean it's

1236
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 5: it's gonna be Michael Perez for the whole season, which

1237
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 5: hasn't been a great experience so far.

1238
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 3: So I'm not sure.

1239
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, like I said, if I'm if I'm

1240
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 5: the GM, anyone's on the table. If I get my

1241
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 5: h if I get blown away with an offer, I'm

1242
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 5: trading him. But I don't think this season. You said

1243
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 5: maybe in the off season they could they can listen

1244
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 5: on but I'm not sure. But Jake, what do you think.

1245
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 6: I I think we could actually start listening to deals

1246
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:48,920
Speaker 6: on him because looking at the catching prospects that we

1247
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:51,520
Speaker 6: have coming up, we if we're still in the rebuilding

1248
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 6: process where we're not expected to win for a few years,

1249
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 6: I would take maybe a season of Michael Perez and

1250
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 6: then maybe get some of the guys in Triple A,

1251
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 6: maybe even Double A up, because I'm at who we

1252
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 6: have down the pipeline, and right now, Joe Hudson has

1253
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 6: been pretty good for us, at least from what I

1254
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 6: saw in spring training and from what I from what

1255
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 6: I'm hearing in Triple A, he's not that bad. You

1256
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 6: look at Double A, Arden past is coming out of

1257
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 6: the woodwork. He's been hitting a ton, He's been throwing

1258
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:17,960
Speaker 6: out runners at second like no man's business. So I

1259
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 6: think we have some depth that we can and then well,

1260
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 6: let's not forget about the elephant in the room with

1261
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 6: Andy Rodriguez down there and low A. I think it is,

1262
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:30,440
Speaker 6: but we have formidable catching prospects coming up, So I

1263
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:33,080
Speaker 6: think if that, I don't say we give him away

1264
01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 6: for you know, relatively cheap.

1265
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 7: I'm not saying he's on a clearance rack.

1266
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 6: But what I'm saying is, if there is a good

1267
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 6: offer that comes our way for Jacob Stallings, say there

1268
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 6: is a team that's on the brink of contention and

1269
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 6: they need a clutch catcher who is good defensively and

1270
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:48,800
Speaker 6: can get things going offensively. I think Stallings is your guy,

1271
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 6: and I think they can start listening to offers on him,

1272
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:52,920
Speaker 6: and I think we'll be protected by the young talent

1273
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 6: we have down down on the farm with catching. Wise,

1274
01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:58,960
Speaker 6: Michael Perez obviously is not part of the long term

1275
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 6: future part of and he actually sees us having a

1276
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:04,920
Speaker 6: platoon of catchers featuring Andy Rodriguez and Arden Paps in

1277
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 6: the MLB. I'm dead serious. I'm sold on Arden Paps,

1278
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 6: that guy. I watched him a few years ago down

1279
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:12,920
Speaker 6: in Altoona when he was first getting up there, and

1280
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 6: then now this season he's hitting a ton.

1281
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 7: I think we're safe.

1282
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 6: So I think if we have I would say it's

1283
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:19,920
Speaker 6: the green light to start listening to offers on Stallings.

1284
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 6: It's unfortunate. I loved watching him play, but I mean,

1285
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:25,080
Speaker 6: I think we have enough depth. We have way more

1286
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 6: depth than we do at first base. So I think

1287
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 6: affording us a few offers would be I think it's

1288
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 6: I think it's very reasonable, especially in the near future,

1289
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,920
Speaker 6: for a breakups contention team that would offer the right

1290
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:39,480
Speaker 6: price for him. So I'm gonna go with yes, I

1291
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:41,520
Speaker 6: say we should start listening to offers on him because

1292
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 6: I think we got some good protection down the line

1293
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 6: with our.

1294
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:47,720
Speaker 5: ELI. I'll ask you this, We'll give you Jacob Stallings

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Speaker 5: for six those stanchaz straight up.

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Speaker 3: What do you think of that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a sore spot right now because we haven't

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Speaker 1: gone into this, but six those status is starting to

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Speaker 1: raise some eyebrows.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this really minor injury.

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Speaker 1: He was supposed to it was options out of spring

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Speaker 1: training because it wasn't fully stretched out to be a

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Speaker 1: starter yet, and he.

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Speaker 3: Was supposed to join the rotation early in the year.

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Speaker 1: And then one of his final tune ups at their

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Speaker 1: alternate training SID he gets a minor shoulder issue.

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Speaker 3: He starts throwing, it starts.

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Speaker 1: A throwing program like in mid April, almost two months ago,

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Speaker 1: and he just has not made much progress at all

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Speaker 1: on that throwing program and now recently like totally pausing

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Speaker 1: that to begin with. This is something that we discussed

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Speaker 1: on Fish Stripes and on my podcast. Now it's just

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Speaker 1: shaping up to be a really lost season for him.

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Speaker 1: Like best case scenario, maybe he is ready to be

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Speaker 1: in the rotation again in late July. That's what we're

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Speaker 1: talking about, where at this point, you know, two thirds

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Speaker 1: of the season will probably be gone before he gets

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Speaker 1: called up, and it's kind of it's really screwed up

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Speaker 1: his whole trajectory, and it's raising some my brows because

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Speaker 1: not getting a clear answer from the team about you know,

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Speaker 1: whether he's aggravated the injury or what exactly is the.

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Speaker 3: Album, but I mean under normal circumstances. I love the guy.

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Speaker 1: I was such a pleasure to watch him, not even

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Speaker 1: in the majors, but actually in Double A in twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 1: I watched so many of those outings and it's clear just

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Speaker 1: how much pitchability he has. It's not just the raw

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Speaker 1: stuff us a guy that really knows how to pitch

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Speaker 1: and is such a joy to watch, so efficient with

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Speaker 1: his pitches that he's going to be He's going to

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Speaker 1: be a great starting pitcher as long as he's healthy.

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Speaker 1: And that's been the question, you know, throughout his minor

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Speaker 1: league career, and that's the question now, and they're really

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Speaker 1: missing him right now, you know, to stabilize it back

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Speaker 1: into their rotation and to bring some enthusiasm because right now,

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Speaker 1: you know, the guy that's kind of doing all the

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Speaker 1: heavy lifting in that enthusiasm department. It's been jazz Chism Junior.

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Speaker 1: And it's been a little bit of startling and a

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Speaker 1: little bit of Haitius Aguilar.

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Speaker 3: And on their pitchers.

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Speaker 1: But they they six Tho is the guy that, you know,

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Speaker 1: if we started twenty twenty one, he was the guy

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Speaker 1: they pointed to as the potential face of the franchise.

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Speaker 1: And it's been it's been a big bummer, you know,

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Speaker 1: for everybody to have a missing but I mean, of course,

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Speaker 1: I mean, who am I talking to. I'm talking to

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01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:06,080
Speaker 1: guys that spent most of this year without Cabrian Hayes,

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01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:08,520
Speaker 1: and you know exactly how that feels to have such

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01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:11,120
Speaker 1: a key piece that's been missing and that is so

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Speaker 1: important to evaluate at the major league level.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, it's nothing that.

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Speaker 1: Marlins fan should be complaining about more than any other team.

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Speaker 1: But it's that's kind of been a big story this

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01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 1: whole season. It's just all these injuries to all these

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Speaker 1: dynamic young players.

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Speaker 5: Yeah for everyone too. You know, I will say this

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01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 5: about Sanchez, I personally am very sad about his uh

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01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:35,080
Speaker 5: his availability because I drafted him in fantasy, so that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not alone. I remember the conversation.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a huge fantasy guy, but I just remember

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Speaker 1: the conversations in the in spring training about kind of

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Speaker 1: him and Sandy al Contra and Pablo Lopez all kind

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Speaker 1: of all being you know, heads head and head, which

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Speaker 1: one of those guys is going to be the most

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Speaker 1: valuable over the course of this season, Like that was

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01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:55,160
Speaker 1: a very legitimate question. Is which of those guys is

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Speaker 1: going to have the best overall season. They all do

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Speaker 1: a lot of good things, and we so far this year, Will, Sandy,

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01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 1: and Pablo have been almost exactly what the Marlins would

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01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:07,599
Speaker 1: have hoped for this year in their age twenty five seasons.

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Speaker 1: And in the fact that six zero has been nothing,

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Speaker 1: it's it's been a big bummer for the year for sure.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Uh, before we wrap things up here real quick, I'm

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Speaker 5: just gonna look at the upcoming schedules for both of

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Speaker 5: these teams. It's funny the Marlins have the random Monday

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01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:29,320
Speaker 5: makeup game at Boston before uh, they have to go,

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Speaker 5: and they'll host Colorado for three and then Atlanta for three,

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01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 5: so they should be able to handle Colorado. I will

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01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:38,920
Speaker 5: say that the Pirates were able to handle them last weekend.

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Speaker 10: So the wait, good, Nathan, is that series with the

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Speaker 10: Marlins against the Rockies is that in Is that in

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Speaker 10: Miami or.

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Speaker 3: Is that in Miami?

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01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:50,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, the Marlins had a six game.

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Speaker 10: Then yeah, the Marlin should handle the Rockies because the

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Speaker 10: Rockies they they're not very good on the road.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, as an understatement, man, I mean the.

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Speaker 7: To be bodies, but you know, it is what it is.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, go ahead and cut you off there, I like, yeah.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 5: And then the Pirates their schedule not so easy. They

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Speaker 5: will host the Dodgers for three and actually it's it's

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Speaker 5: kind of rough here for the Pirates for a little bit.

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Speaker 5: They host the Dodgers for three, and then they go

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Speaker 5: to Milwaukee, then to Washington, and then they come back

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01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 5: and they get the Indians, who aren't like super great,

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Speaker 5: but they're better than the Pirates. And then they host uh,

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Speaker 5: the White Sox for two. That's a another hard team,

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Speaker 5: and then they go to Saint Louis so the rest

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Speaker 5: of this month, the Pirates will probably if you guys bet,

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Speaker 5: the Pirates will probably be underdogs in every single one

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Speaker 5: of those games.

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Speaker 3: I would match.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I'm really dreading the series the Dodgers. The

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Speaker 6: only thing I'm happy about is that we get the

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Speaker 6: back end of the rotation. I think the hardest one

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Speaker 6: we have to face is probably Walker Bueller. I don't

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Speaker 6: think Trevor Bauer pitch today, so we don't not to

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Speaker 6: worry about him.

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Speaker 7: I don't. I looked at the probables. I don't think

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Speaker 7: Kershaw is listed as one of them, so.

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Speaker 9: That he pitched yesterday, I think so y'all probably might

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01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:12,439
Speaker 9: miss Kershaw too. Oh thank god, so we got a

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01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:13,880
Speaker 9: we got a bit of a grace period with that.

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01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:20,000
Speaker 9: I'm happy with that, and hopefully we can see some

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01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 9: promising things out of the Pirates, even if we don't

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01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:24,559
Speaker 9: end up on the winning side here in the near future.

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01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:25,960
Speaker 9: Hopefully we do see some promise.

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01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 6: Hopefully Phil Phil Evans is coming back soon and he

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01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:31,320
Speaker 6: can take over for er Gonzales, who has just been.

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01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:34,839
Speaker 7: A liability on defense and offense.

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Speaker 6: Really, so I think if he comes back, I think

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01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:38,519
Speaker 6: we'll look a little a little Sharper.

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01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:41,040
Speaker 7: Even if we don't win, you know, win.

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01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:44,920
Speaker 3: For sure for sure.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Bueller will be tough. He's also on my fantasy team,

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Speaker 5: so I'm looking forward to that for me personally. But yeah,

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Speaker 5: I got I got Bueller.

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Speaker 8: He's on mine too, alright. Hey, he's been solid for me.

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01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:04,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, he's been pretty good. Wednesday on ESPN, they

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01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:07,000
Speaker 5: don't really they don't have a listed starter for the Pirates.

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01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 5: I mean for the Dodgers. The Pirates don't have a

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01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:14,880
Speaker 5: listed starter for Tuesday. But uh, the Pirates still have

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01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:19,120
Speaker 5: Mitch Keller listed for Thursday, and he went on the

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01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:21,880
Speaker 5: COVID Aisle, so we'll see what happens there.

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Speaker 3: And then jlio.

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Speaker 5: Urius.

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Speaker 8: It's tough to say.

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01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:33,040
Speaker 5: I'm terrible with names. I will say that, but.

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Speaker 8: I don't feel about you have the only one.

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01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:37,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, it'll be a tough series for sure for the Pirates.

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01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:40,640
Speaker 5: I think that's a good place to wrap things up.

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01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:41,000
Speaker 3: Eli.

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Speaker 5: Where can we find you on Twitter?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I got my fingerprints all over fish stripes,

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01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:53,439
Speaker 1: So if you search for fish Stripes on Twitter, Instagram, YouTube. Obviously,

1447
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 1: our website fish stripes dot com has everything but me

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Speaker 1: personally on Twitter, you can find me at real Eli.

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Speaker 3: Spelled e l y at the ends, so you can

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01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:04,720
Speaker 3: get some of my personal thoughts there.

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01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:09,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, covering, uh yeah, governing this Marlins team, I feel

1452
01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:12,759
Speaker 1: like in a creative way more so than other people,

1453
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 1: and we have a lot of fun doing it. Right now,

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01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 1: we have do plenty of our own podcasting fish Stripes.

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Speaker 3: Search for the Fist strip Stripes podcast wherever you get it.

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Speaker 3: I actually have to record a.

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Speaker 1: Portion of that to go up tomorrow at the State

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01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:26,960
Speaker 1: of the Morrow. So yeah, wherever you get your podcast,

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Speaker 1: you can find us there. And this was a lot

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Speaker 1: of fun. I appreciate you guys bringing me one