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Speaker 2: Michael Spurlock of the cham He's to the twenty, He's
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Speaker 1: We could see history. Fifteen forty to the thirty yard light.
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Speaker 1: He has the record at the eleven yard line.
Speaker 2: Mike Evans becomes the first NFL player in lead history
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Speaker 1: That want to throw by Brady. Congratulations Mike Evans, who
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Speaker 2: Most valuable player in the National Football League.
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Speaker 3: Welcome back, everybody to the Salty Dogs Podcast. And I
Speaker 3: am Scott Smith's I'm Jeff Ryan. We are the Salty Dogs.
Speaker 3: So far, so good, getting salty here by the week
Speaker 3: three game losing streaks are not fun.
Speaker 1: Not at all. I did not see it coming.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, I boy. We almost got that one
Speaker 3: in Buffalo though. That was pretty crazy at the end.
Speaker 1: That was good stuff. But before we start, if someone
Speaker 1: has a question and they want to let us go.
Speaker 3: Shop Jeff so at the end of this, well, first
Speaker 3: of all, we're gonna we're gonna talk about the game
Speaker 3: and some other stuff. Uh, then we will We're gonna
Speaker 3: we're actually doing this on Tuesday. This part, we're gonna
Speaker 3: try tomorrow, good guests, If we get one, we'll shoehorn
Speaker 3: that in the middle. Sure, and then we'll finish off
Speaker 3: with fans questions that the fans are sent in and
Speaker 3: We've got a lot of them this week, Jeff helthough
Speaker 3: I will warn you ahead of time that not all
Speaker 3: of them actually questions. Some of them are rants, like
Speaker 3: so some and we've said this, We've told people to
Speaker 3: do this.
Speaker 1: You're fair.
Speaker 3: We're being used, our podcast is being used as an
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Speaker 1: Which I get it. I get it. I'm good therapy,
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Speaker 3: Dogs at Buccaneers dot NFL dot com. Yep, okay, all right,
Speaker 3: onward onto the game on I kind of started at
Speaker 3: the end there, you know, the Buccaneers rallied from ten
Speaker 3: to nothing down to tie it to ten ten. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but then Buffalo seemed to be pulling away with the
Speaker 3: game with two touchdowns in the second half. So now
Speaker 3: it's twenty four to ten. We get the ball back
Speaker 3: with about someone maybe tim mints left in the game
Speaker 3: and drive like ninety something yards for a touchdown, which
Speaker 3: was pretty great. Unfortunately, Yeah, well, it took two fourth
Speaker 3: down penalties and a bunch of a bunch of seventeen
Speaker 3: plays I think ninker.
Speaker 1: May Baker Mayfield scrambling around.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it took seven minutes and twenty one seconds
Speaker 3: off the clock, leaving only two forty four and then
Speaker 3: when Buffalo was able to get one first down, they
Speaker 3: led pretty much all but twenty one seconds off the
Speaker 3: clock by the time the Mayfield had the ball back
Speaker 3: in his hands pretty far back around the Bucks twenty.
Speaker 3: To his credit, he was able to get the bucks
Speaker 3: close to midfield, which allowed him to get off a
Speaker 3: credible hail Mary throw, believe, and it was almost an
Speaker 3: incredible hail Mary throw.
Speaker 1: I've never seen a hell Mary throw not get touched
Speaker 1: just to hit drop again.
Speaker 3: Yes, which is and everybody has said that, we all
Speaker 3: know this is true. Chris Godwin did not do anything
Speaker 3: wrong in that play, correct, But if in another parallel
Speaker 3: world he turns around a second earlier, he's probably going
Speaker 3: to catch that ball. Yeah, because he turns around and
Speaker 3: he sees it almost it's almost down in myriadis it's
Speaker 3: a foot or two in away, and he kind of
Speaker 3: reflexively sticks out an arm.
Speaker 1: And he did get an arm out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he got an arm out. He didn't touch the ball,
Speaker 3: but had he been had he been able to track
Speaker 3: that ball a moment earlier, I think he would have
Speaker 3: caught it.
Speaker 1: And no other.
Speaker 3: Defender was there. The defender that was nearest him was
Speaker 3: a little bit past him. Well, the reason why there
Speaker 3: was no defender there is that they had they had Yeah,
Speaker 3: they had gate otton on the ground. I'm going to
Speaker 3: have to tell you if that would have been in
Speaker 3: New York City rather than in Buffalo, New York, that
Speaker 3: would be a muggy. I have to tell you the
Speaker 3: dear listeners that Jeff is pretty salty about this one.
Speaker 3: Just that they're never going to throw a flag on it.
Speaker 3: They're just not going to do it.
Speaker 1: I understand that thought process. However, if it's a rule,
Speaker 1: it's a rule, and just because it's in that now,
Speaker 1: I understand if it's a questionable. You know, Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: not going to throw it. It's kind of close. It's
Speaker 1: a judge. But when a guy gets tackled like that,
Speaker 1: and I'm not the only one that feels that way,
Speaker 1: I know. I have to say. Peter King actually wrote
Speaker 1: on his Monday Morning.
Speaker 3: He's on your side.
Speaker 1: He was on the buccaneer side. He was. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: did go off a little bit about it that and
Speaker 1: and you know, if I'm a defender, you might as well,
Speaker 1: you might as well push somebody down because if he's
Speaker 1: gonna catch it, it's a touchdown game over with. If
Speaker 1: you push him down and they're not gonna call it, okay,
Speaker 1: good for me. But if you push him down and
Speaker 1: they do call it, well, then it's on the one
Speaker 1: yard line or close enough. Right, there's another play, But
Speaker 1: you saved the touchdown.
Speaker 3: Can I make the Devil's Advocates argument? Sure, if the
Speaker 3: penalty was specifically on the guys that were hitting Kate
Speaker 3: Hutton and the ball was already in the air, if
Speaker 3: they throw a flag, that's for pass interference, not if
Speaker 3: the balls aren't in the air, that's past interference, not
Speaker 3: illegal contact, right, And then wouldn't they get together and
Speaker 3: discuss whether or not that pass was catchable for Cad
Speaker 3: it lands near Chris, but way beyond where Kate.
Speaker 1: Then Chris also got spun around.
Speaker 3: So well, okay, if you're saying this throwing the flag, I'm.
Speaker 1: Just yeah, Christopher, I understand what you're saying. But but
Speaker 1: it was It kind of reminded me of It kind
Speaker 1: of reminded me of like the Super Bowl where the
Speaker 1: guy had the pass interference on the last went on
Speaker 1: the last drive, and they called it and everybody said,
Speaker 1: how can you call it? Call it to give him.
Speaker 1: You know, if it's a penalty, it's a penalty. But
Speaker 1: in sports, you see this all the time. In hockey,
Speaker 1: they call a game one way during the regular season,
Speaker 1: and then during playoffs everyone goes, let them play. Just
Speaker 1: let I'm playing.
Speaker 3: That's a different problem. I agree with you on that one.
Speaker 3: But in the Super Bowl, it was not a hill Mary,
Speaker 3: and it was not the last play the game. I
Speaker 3: know that it effectively ended the game, but it wasn't
Speaker 3: a hill Mary. So it operated more like you would
Speaker 3: you would a normal play would, and the refs operated
Speaker 3: the way they normally would, whereas we all know, they're
Speaker 3: not going to throw a flag on hill Mary. No,
Speaker 3: unless like you chopped somebody's head out, I will say this.
Speaker 1: Oh I'm sorry you weren't done well.
Speaker 3: You responded to my thing about Cad and I was
Speaker 3: going to respond and now you made me forget what
Speaker 3: it was because they no, don'torry about it. What my
Speaker 3: response was not.
Speaker 1: What you said. Well, no, what I was going to say.
Speaker 1: What you said was hell A long hour, man, Help
Speaker 1: help refresh your memory.
Speaker 3: I remember what you said. I can't remember what I
Speaker 3: was going to say. Back droned on for so long.
Speaker 1: All right, I'll shut up.
Speaker 3: No, no, don't go back to what you're gonna say.
Speaker 1: Now now I can't remember you off. This is going
Speaker 1: really well. Uh. What I was going to say is
Speaker 1: if if your hope to win is a hell, Mary,
Speaker 1: then you did a lot of things wrong during the
Speaker 1: regular part of the game. That's what I was going
Speaker 1: to say.
Speaker 3: That's fair. I agree with you on that one. Oh,
Speaker 3: I know what I was gonna say. Okay, so you
Speaker 3: basically your basic concept, right is you know there's gonna
Speaker 3: be some shoving. They're not going to call that on
Speaker 3: a hail Mary. But if it's really blatant like what
Speaker 3: happened to Kate, then they should call that. Okay, Well,
Speaker 3: I say they argue, I argue that, well, it was
Speaker 3: an uncatchable ball for Kate, so they're probably to pick
Speaker 3: the flag up anyway. And then you say, well, Chris
Speaker 3: Godwin will spun around. That penalty is not one that
Speaker 3: lives up to what you think should be called.
Speaker 1: That's more of a judgment call.
Speaker 3: Well, it just wasn't that blatant. Yeah, and it really
Speaker 3: if he spun him around, then he did him a favor.
Speaker 1: Well, that's true too. He should spun him fast and.
Speaker 3: Should have spun him earlier. Yeah, that would have been nice.
Speaker 3: Jeez cut you know. So it's funny because I was
Speaker 3: watching on that play on next Gin and you can
Speaker 3: watch the video and then next to it you can
Speaker 3: watch the little thing where all the dots move around
Speaker 3: and you can get all the stats. Yeah, at the
Speaker 3: end of that play, when the ball is hitting the ground,
Speaker 3: you can't even see k dotten dot because the two
Speaker 3: defender dots are completely covering him. And that's pretty much
Speaker 3: exactly what happened. I mean, he was being sandwiched by
Speaker 3: two guys and completely just mauled.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he was the go He was the guy
Speaker 1: that's supposed to pop it up in the air if
Speaker 1: you can't catch it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I noticed two got him and Trey Palmer both
Speaker 3: cut their their routes off right before the goal line,
Speaker 3: whereas Chris and Mike went into the into the inside
Speaker 3: and impressive throw by Baker. It went sixty five yards
Speaker 3: in the air.
Speaker 1: I know, I was trying to decide how it was
Speaker 1: sixty one, but now you looked it up and at
Speaker 1: sixty one.
Speaker 3: By the actual distance from where he was. He threw
Speaker 3: it from the thirty eight the bucks thirty eight, so
Speaker 3: that's sixty two yards of the end zone, right, And
Speaker 3: they didn't have in next gen exactly how far into
Speaker 3: the end zone Atlanta, but from looking at it looked
Speaker 3: like three yards in the end zone, so that'd be
Speaker 3: a sixty five yard throw.
Speaker 1: Is a great throw. And again I cannot recall a
Speaker 1: hell Mary which someone did. It just dropped in. I know,
Speaker 1: it's cool, it was almost it was. It was kind
Speaker 1: of surreal because you saw and then it just dropped
Speaker 1: and I was watching it through binoculars.
Speaker 3: Like it just disappeared.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, what just happened here? Other than the game
Speaker 1: was over with, but you know, there were other opportunities
Speaker 1: that perhaps they could have capitalized before they go to
Speaker 1: the Ol Mary Well.
Speaker 3: Part of the problem is another issue on both sides
Speaker 3: of the ball again, third downs. We were talking about
Speaker 3: it last week. Third downs was really what's kill on us.
Speaker 3: Once again, we came into the game averaging exactly allowing
Speaker 3: an average of exactly fifty percent of third downs to
Speaker 3: be converted, which is utterly horrendous and not at all
Speaker 3: what our defenses normally do, right, and it went up
Speaker 3: because Buffalo converted seven of thirteen for fifty three point
Speaker 3: eight percent in that game. Meanwhile, the Bucks were only
Speaker 3: four of fifteen at twenty six point seven percent, and
Speaker 3: I think they only converted one third down in the
Speaker 3: in the second half. So it's kind of hard to
Speaker 3: keep up with a good offense when they're converting third
Speaker 3: downs much better than the York Some of that is
Speaker 3: a function of their personnel, if it's it's like if
Speaker 3: you're playing Philly and they get a third and one,
Speaker 3: they're going to get it. We all know that although
Speaker 3: they did, they were stopped on one. They had a
Speaker 3: forced fumble against them by Washington this week but I
Speaker 3: think that's the only time it's been stopped. They have
Speaker 3: Josh Allen. Josh Allen's a like perfectly engineered machine for
Speaker 3: third downs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they they You know, Josh Allen played a
Speaker 1: different game than he did the last few games. It's
Speaker 1: because he's running. Of course, you don't want your quarterback
Speaker 1: running around like that, but he he did. Now, whether
Speaker 1: that was because Vidavea wasn't in the center, you know,
Speaker 1: that's what you play with who you have and you
Speaker 1: go from there.
Speaker 3: That's a good tangent to go off on there. Because
Speaker 3: Vitavea sat out the game due to a groin injury.
Speaker 3: It was a true game night decision. People always say
Speaker 3: game time decision, even the coaches. It was just not accurate.
Speaker 3: I will say this. It was so late.
Speaker 1: You were jexing me and I was trying to figure
Speaker 1: out because we didn't see the inactives, and we were
Speaker 1: trying and you were going to go on the air,
Speaker 1: and you want and when you go on, you like
Speaker 1: to be accurate.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I go on the air before the injuries
Speaker 3: are put out, the enactors are put out. But it
Speaker 3: gives me an idea of what's going to happen, and
Speaker 3: I could speculate, sure, Yeah, we usually get a little
Speaker 3: picture showing us the enactors from the locker room, and
Speaker 3: it hadn't come. He usually had come by then, so
Speaker 3: we were trying to figure it out. But I think
Speaker 3: the reason for that was because they really were going
Speaker 3: down to the last minute, not only on Vita, who
Speaker 3: had a groin injury and didn't practice all last week,
Speaker 3: but also in Logan Hall, who tweet what did he tweaked?
Speaker 3: Something is also growing? He tweaked a growing stretching during
Speaker 3: the premium warm ups and they weren't sure if he
Speaker 3: was going to play. He did end a plane and
Speaker 3: gutting it through. He made it through most of the
Speaker 3: game and then kind of had to come out at
Speaker 3: the end according to coach. But they really went right
Speaker 3: up to the last to the wire on that decision,
Speaker 3: and then Vita didn't play. And I think you saw
Speaker 3: in the aftermath how much important Vita has in the
Speaker 3: middle of that defense, because without him, the rest of
Speaker 3: our guys there in the middle weren't nearly as effective.
Speaker 3: We had six different guys play those three defensive line spots.
Speaker 3: Sometimes there's two in the game. Sometimes there's three and
Speaker 3: they combined for one hundred and forty four defensive snaps
Speaker 3: and had one tackle and three assists.
Speaker 1: I would say that's not good.
Speaker 3: Now. A lot of times there's lots and lots of
Speaker 3: times reasons why. Well, though, there's lots of times when
Speaker 3: a defensive lineman the positions that like Vita and Collija
Speaker 3: and Logan play can finish a game without any stats
Speaker 3: of note, but still be important to you know, because
Speaker 3: they're tying up blockers or getting penetration or you know whatever.
Speaker 3: A lot of reasons. Sure, a lot of things they
Speaker 3: can do to infect the game. It doesn't show up
Speaker 3: on the stat page. But when all six of your
Speaker 3: guys combined that played those positions only get one tackle,
Speaker 3: I think it wasn't a particularly effective night for that group.
Speaker 3: And I think that's largely because largely no pun intended
Speaker 3: that Vita wasn't in there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree one hundred percent on that one. I
Speaker 1: have to say though, that the weather was really nice.
Speaker 1: I mean, in western New York and late October you
Speaker 1: get seventy degree weather, sixty some in the nighttime, pretty solid.
Speaker 3: And then after the game, I flew to Saint Louis.
Speaker 3: You did on Friday morning, and it was like that
Speaker 3: there too, like seventy I was hot all day and
Speaker 3: then we went to my sister's dinner and by the
Speaker 3: time we got to dinner, to drop like thirty degrees
Speaker 3: to forty and then for the rest of the week
Speaker 3: and it was like forty one degrees.
Speaker 1: In rainy anyway, Yep, this is how it's more like
Speaker 1: what I remember. Yeah, yeah, but.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the weather was so good and we were there
Speaker 3: for a long time because it was in a night
Speaker 3: game that I'm sure you did too. Got a chance
Speaker 3: in our hotel. We stayed in Niagara Falls, yep, instead
Speaker 3: of Buffalo or Oakland Park, and that and our hotel
Speaker 3: literally walked out the back door of the hotel and
Speaker 3: the path to the Nagara Falls was right there.
Speaker 1: The river was there.
Speaker 3: It was like a ten minute walk, huh. And the
Speaker 3: river was right there. Yeah, it is it the Niagara River.
Speaker 3: I assume I would.
Speaker 1: I have no idea, but I would think so. But
Speaker 1: what was funny is that as we were walking along
Speaker 1: the trail and you could hear the rapids going and
Speaker 1: the water right there, and there's no guard rails, no fencing,
Speaker 1: no nothing. It was just like there and we were
Speaker 1: discussing the liability of no fences being there. But it
Speaker 1: was really very very nice and there are a lot
Speaker 1: of people did take that opportunity to walk down there,
Speaker 1: and some people even ventured into Canada, so that was
Speaker 1: a treat for them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you had if they were smart enough to remember
Speaker 3: to bring our past, right, you could walk across a bridge.
Speaker 3: I didn't have time to do that. But uh, I'm sorry,
Speaker 3: I'm pausing because we have breaking.
Speaker 1: News, breaking news, so it's not actually.
Speaker 3: Breaking news because people have already been reporting this for
Speaker 3: a while. But the Buccaneers are signing John Woolford off
Speaker 3: the practice squad to the active.
Speaker 1: Roster, and that's to protect him.
Speaker 3: Because there are at least reports that some teams were
Speaker 3: sniffing around him. And you can sign it wouldn't have
Speaker 3: to be a trade. If if a guy is on
Speaker 3: a practice squad, another team can sign them to their
Speaker 3: active roster anytime they want to. They just have to
Speaker 3: then keep them on the active roster for at.
Speaker 1: Least three weeks.
Speaker 3: So Bucks keep their third quarterback, which now means they
Speaker 3: could potentially use the inactive.
Speaker 1: Third quarterback rule.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but hopefully, hopefully, hopefully not just to make room.
Speaker 3: Patrick O'Connor, the defensive lignment was released. Now we have
Speaker 3: an open spot on the practice squad obviously, so my
Speaker 3: if I was a betanman, I would say so eventually
Speaker 3: they signed Patrick back to the practice Yeah.
Speaker 1: So being released, he has to go through waiver wires.
Speaker 1: Is that it or he's no free agent?
Speaker 3: He is a vested veterans. So the fact I said
Speaker 3: released instead of waived means he's immediately availab to sign
Speaker 3: anywhere his choice. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Once the these moves.
Speaker 3: Are reported, they're sent up to the league now and
Speaker 3: then by six they'll be sent back out. However, starting tomorrow,
Speaker 3: every player has to go through waivers, no matter how
Speaker 3: many years they've been in the league, because it's after
Speaker 3: the tread trade. That's that's to keep teams from doing
Speaker 3: little sneaky type trades at least the guy and they
Speaker 3: pick them up.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So yeah, everybody has to go through the waiver wire
Speaker 3: from from tomorrow through the end of the season.
Speaker 1: I was surprised how many trades were.
Speaker 3: There were a lot of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Did San Francisco really need another pass rusher? Guess so
Speaker 3: they got young. Yeah, for a third round pick. John
Speaker 3: lynch Is is wheeling.
Speaker 1: Indeed, I like that move. John'll be calling him trader
Speaker 1: John there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that move a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, they've they've struggled with some injuries, and they
Speaker 1: in the last couple of games they struggled defensively, so yeah,
Speaker 1: which was surprising very much so that I mean at
Speaker 1: the beginning of the year and at the and the
Speaker 1: end of last season that defense looked like even more
Speaker 1: impressive than their offense.
Speaker 3: Right there, they're flust in a row right after starting
Speaker 3: off five zero and looking like the best team in
Speaker 3: the league.
Speaker 1: That's correct.
Speaker 3: That just goes into what you always say, Jeff, it's
Speaker 3: a week to week league.
Speaker 1: That that and we're getting into the the part of
Speaker 1: the season where it's the pretenders and the contenders.
Speaker 3: And the people who think they're pretending contenders. Obviously, that's it.
Speaker 3: You could say.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: The only weird one there was the Bears trading for uh,
Speaker 3: they traded for somebody a Montes sweat.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So Washington obviously doesn't think they're contenders because they just
Speaker 3: traded two.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they they played well against the Eagles this weekend.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, they did. They almost pulled that one out.
Speaker 3: It's kind of weird that the Bears would give up
Speaker 3: a third round pick. I think it was, or maybe
Speaker 3: it was a second I think it was the second
Speaker 3: round pick. There's last year they traded a second round
Speaker 3: pick for Chase Claypool and that was an abject disaster. Yeah,
Speaker 3: they've already traded him away.
Speaker 1: They've they've they've had their issues.
Speaker 3: So the Bears trade But there, what are they two
Speaker 3: and six? I think they can't possibly think they're contenders, right,
Speaker 3: They're two and six and their core hurt. They don't
Speaker 3: think they're contender. So this is a move for the future.
Speaker 3: But but Montes Sweat, this is the last year of
Speaker 3: his contract, right, so they must be trading him with
Speaker 3: the intention of resigning him to a longer term deal, right,
Speaker 3: you would think. So why in the last year do
Speaker 3: they trade away Rokwan Smith and trade away Leonard Floyd
Speaker 3: and trade away Khalil Mack.
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Wow, to get out of those contracts? And then they
Speaker 3: signed two linebackers off the linebackers to big contracts, and
Speaker 3: then they trade four Montest Sweat, presumably to give him
Speaker 3: a big contract.
Speaker 1: Why why do they do all that. Well, you could
Speaker 1: be you could be Scott from Tampa on the score
Speaker 1: in Chicago asking that question because Bear fans in the
Speaker 1: Chicago Land area are asking that question. Why. But if
Speaker 1: you there? How their their head coach has been there
Speaker 1: what a year now?
Speaker 3: Two years? I think this is second second year? Okay,
Speaker 3: So and they didn't pick Justin Fields.
Speaker 1: No, no, and so and the kid from that played
Speaker 1: on Monday night, Tyler Badging. Yeah he got it. He
Speaker 1: got a pretty good Uh, he's got a pretty strong arm,
Speaker 1: I would hope.
Speaker 3: So you you I'm sure you heard them saying.
Speaker 1: What his dad does, right, No, it's his dad doing.
Speaker 3: His dad is like one of the all time greatest
Speaker 3: arm wrestlers, really multiple champions.
Speaker 1: No wonder is so bulked up. When I saw him
Speaker 1: on TEAZ he his son went over there and gave
Speaker 1: him a big hug. Yeah, it's really nice. I like,
Speaker 1: I like when that stuff happens. I mean, you gotta
Speaker 1: be a dad. I mean, if if your son makes
Speaker 1: it to the pros, I mean he's got to be
Speaker 1: beaman now. Yeah. So yeah, that's pretty solid.
Speaker 3: I don't know why we're talking about the well because
Speaker 3: it's it's talking about trade.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're scratching your head because of it.
Speaker 3: Yes, the forty nine ers get another one was the
Speaker 3: other there was there was one really big one. Well
Speaker 3: I guess the forty nine ers one was the biggest one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well the big that's the one that you think,
Speaker 1: Holy smokes.
Speaker 3: It's like you guys haven't been credited last year at
Speaker 3: the trade. I don't know if it was right at
Speaker 3: the trade deadline close, they traded for Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that didn't work out too which totally I know that.
Speaker 3: I know that rock Party was the big story, but
Speaker 3: it was Christian McCaffrey that transformed that offense from good
Speaker 3: to unstoppable.
Speaker 1: When he doesn't play, there's when when Deebo Samuel and
Speaker 1: him and and mc McCaffrey don't play, that's a different
Speaker 1: offense for sure, totally different. Absolutely. So Yeah, that's pretty
Speaker 1: strong moved there. I think.
Speaker 3: I think Christian mccafrey has scored a touch in like
Speaker 3: seventeen straight games or something crazy like that. That's insane,
Speaker 3: utterly insane.
Speaker 1: And then Leonard Fournette has signed a deal with Buffalo
Speaker 1: as a practice squad, right, probably get elevated after a
Speaker 1: week or two something like that.
Speaker 3: The Cardinals traded away Josh Dobbs the Vikings. Ah, Josh
Speaker 3: Dobbs just gets dropped into these situations.
Speaker 1: Poor guy.
Speaker 3: They he got traded to the Cardinals right before the
Speaker 3: season and then became their starter. Yeah, and in some
Speaker 3: games actually played pretty good and then the Cardinals just
Speaker 3: trade him back to Uh. I know Kyler Murray's coming
Speaker 3: back soon. Yeah, I know that, although I think they're
Speaker 3: starting Clayton Tune, who does not sound like a real person,
Speaker 3: but I think they're starting him doing their next game.
Speaker 1: Do you think he rents rather than buys.
Speaker 3: Josh Doabs. He's probably learned to at this point.
Speaker 1: I'm just curious.
Speaker 3: The Packers traded a cornerback to the Bills, Russell Douglas.
Speaker 1: The Bills are making some moves, but they they've been hurt.
Speaker 1: They've they've been kind of banged up. So there's that
Speaker 1: the Bills have.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's another reason why I thought maybe.
Speaker 1: The Browns traded Donovan People's jones to the Lions. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're they're loading up for bear.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well they look pretty. They didn't looked great last night,
Speaker 1: but they were they were good. They were good enough
Speaker 1: to win and that's all you need to be clear.
Speaker 3: The better team.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I did like their look. I did like
Speaker 1: more of the silver with the with the blue, and
Speaker 1: the fans were really into it. So they're very excited
Speaker 1: in Detroit.
Speaker 3: Of these Houston oiler throwbacks this week.
Speaker 1: We're fairs. Absolutely, that was I heard it was one
Speaker 1: of those. When I first saw it, I was like,
Speaker 1: is that an oiler highlight? It's awful clean? Is that
Speaker 1: Bruce Matt Yeah? That Earl Cambell, Earl Campbell? Oh mom,
Speaker 1: you know is that bum on the sideline? Bum phillips? Oh?
Speaker 1: Bum pills?
Speaker 3: Yeay, I thought you were going Earl call them?
Speaker 1: No, no, do you know that?
Speaker 3: You know Earl Campbell's connection to the Buccaneers, right, kind
Speaker 3: of in a way.
Speaker 1: Fill me in.
Speaker 3: So the Bucks had the first pick in the seventy
Speaker 3: six draft, right, and then after going on fourteen, they
Speaker 3: had the first pick in the seventy seven draft as well, right.
Speaker 1: Oh, and they went with Ricky Bell. Yeah, and then
Speaker 1: in the.
Speaker 3: In the in seventy eight I believe that they were
Speaker 3: they were also going to pick third after going two,
Speaker 3: I mean first, after going two and fourteen in seventy
Speaker 3: seven but instead of making that pick, they traded with
Speaker 3: the Oilers to.
Speaker 1: Get Jimmy Giles.
Speaker 3: And in the well, I mean they traded and part
Speaker 3: of the trade they traded from one down to.
Speaker 1: Where did they get him? Trying to look at this list.
Speaker 3: Here, they traded down to seventeen and took Doug Williams
Speaker 3: and part of the return on the trade was Jimmy Giles.
Speaker 1: I say, that's pretty good trade.
Speaker 3: Yeah, although you know, and the earl Campbell was considered
Speaker 3: the best player in the draft, and he was fantastic. Yeah,
Speaker 3: But the Bucks had drafted Ricky Bell the year before.
Speaker 1: Right, and that was before Ricky Bell became.
Speaker 3: Ill, and they were planning on yeah, right, and they
Speaker 3: were planning on targeting Doug Williams, and they knew they
Speaker 3: didn't have to do that with the first overall pick.
Speaker 3: Art Still went second, and West Chandler went third, and
Speaker 3: James Lofton went sixths and that was Clay Matthews went twelfth.
Speaker 3: That was a good draft. John Jefferson went fourteenth, Molly,
Speaker 3: that was a good draft.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And those were players, those were all really good.
Speaker 3: As he knew someone in the first round of draft, Larry,
Speaker 3: but he was really good. Anyway, what was I talking
Speaker 3: about before all that?
Speaker 1: Well, we were talking about trade.
Speaker 3: Oh no, we're talking about throwbacks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 3: I was listening to a podcast and they were arguing
Speaker 3: about whether the best throwbacks were Tennessee or Seattle. I
Speaker 3: didn't really see Seattle, but apparently they had some nice throwbacks,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, this is bucko, Bruce Eraser, who, well,
Speaker 3: are you not throwing that into the right right?
Speaker 1: No, I felt the same way. But if you had
Speaker 1: the reason why the Oilers look so cool is they
Speaker 1: don't exist anymore.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not really surprised they did that. I'm glad
Speaker 3: they did it, but I wouldn't have expected that.
Speaker 1: Well, that that would be like can you imagine the Ravens.
Speaker 3: Oh, that would never happen. They probably can't speak. I
Speaker 3: Cleveland's back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't even get the finish, but that would
Speaker 1: be pretty cool. So any other team that could do that,
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I don't think.
Speaker 3: Because the Cardinals just were card the Cardinals. They've always
Speaker 3: been the Cardinals.
Speaker 1: Cardinals were Cardinals when they were in Chicago, when they
Speaker 1: were Saint Louis and.
Speaker 3: The Raiders who roved around. But They've always been Raids.
Speaker 3: The Rams have always stayed the Rams.
Speaker 1: Ye, No one's changed there. So there's a lot more.
Speaker 3: Of those in baseball, Like the Baltimore Royals used to
Speaker 3: be the Saint Louis Browns, I think.
Speaker 1: Well, I know, the Milwaukee Braves at first were the
Speaker 1: Boston Braves. Milwaukee Braves the Atlanta Braves. Yeah, and then it.
Speaker 3: Wasn't there a team called the Cold forty five that became.
Speaker 1: That was the that was that. I think it was
Speaker 1: the Washington Senators went there.
Speaker 3: And became the Washington Centers.
Speaker 1: Oh, maybe someone became the Cold forty fives, but I
Speaker 1: will say they became this. The Seattle Pilots became the
Speaker 1: Mariners a good one. No, no, became became the Brewers.
Speaker 3: Really yeah, really well, the Montreallexwells became the Washington Nationals. Correct,
Speaker 3: So that's what I'm saying. There's a lot more name
Speaker 3: change moves. Well yeah, yeah, so we got the one
Speaker 3: the Oilers to the Titans. But I can't think of
Speaker 3: another one there. If there is another one, somebody's screaming at.
Speaker 1: Us right now. No there, I mean, if you I
Speaker 1: mean other than the Commanders. Oh well, they didn't move,
Speaker 1: but they didn't move, that's true. The Vikings have always
Speaker 1: been the Vikings, the Bears, Steelers. Yeah, you start thinking
Speaker 1: about those Core Dolphins. Yeah, those Cores Raiders. I don't
Speaker 1: think so.
Speaker 3: Chiefs chiefs for the Houston Texans originally, I think.
Speaker 1: Well, yes they were. They were the America. That was
Speaker 1: the American football right right. But it is a team,
Speaker 1: so they that's true.
Speaker 3: But they can't throw back to the Texans because now
Speaker 3: there's a new Texans.
Speaker 1: Right right. That's kind of interesting. Yeah, that was I
Speaker 1: did not That was not on my Bengal car.
Speaker 3: What a trip down memory lane. We just took and
Speaker 3: dragged a bunch of listenings.
Speaker 1: But what I like about the Houston Oilers thing is
Speaker 1: it was very very cool.
Speaker 3: Dallas Texans the Dallas three years they were the Dallas
Speaker 3: Texans in the AFLUH.
Speaker 1: Mainly because when I was looking at the Oilers logo
Speaker 1: and their helmet, it made me think about doing games
Speaker 1: in the Astrodome, and we did a game there, So
Speaker 1: that was That was one of the stadiums that at
Speaker 1: one time was the seventh Wonder of the World. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's now it looks like a storage shed. Next
Speaker 1: to the news.
Speaker 3: Nobody goes in there.
Speaker 1: No, they used to do. They used to do the
Speaker 1: rodeo in there. Yeah, but they don't. They haven't for years.
Speaker 3: You've had this discussion on this podcast.
Speaker 1: No. But what what I'm saying, though, is that that
Speaker 1: that's a good that that was a great throwback. They
Speaker 1: did a nice job.
Speaker 3: It was really cool. But if you're gonna argue about
Speaker 3: which one's.
Speaker 1: Best, oh yeah, Creamsickles the best.
Speaker 3: You gotta at least include the Bucks.
Speaker 1: It's you know what's funny is watching the highlights from
Speaker 1: the Creamsickle game. I see those uniforms and I go, wow,
Speaker 1: that really looks good. And and any time I was
Speaker 1: not a big fan of those during that period.
Speaker 3: Yes, people associated the orange with losing. Yes, yes, And
Speaker 3: I think that's what it is. It's not so much
Speaker 3: that people wouldn't have liked the color because it was unique.
Speaker 3: It said the Bucks did a whole lot of losing
Speaker 3: in that color.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So now that the Buccaneers have found several eras of
Speaker 3: success in for his history, won two Super Bowls in
Speaker 3: a different uniform, you.
Speaker 1: Can feel good about it.
Speaker 3: You can look at the uniforms and not think about
Speaker 3: Oh that's just that's just a losing color and you
Speaker 3: can look at them.
Speaker 1: Go, that looks pretty good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think I personally believe it's best.
Speaker 1: In small doses. Oh, no question on one week one
Speaker 1: gave me years. Fine, all the throwbacks are best and
Speaker 1: small correct because if you see it all the time,
Speaker 1: it becomes that.
Speaker 3: You made the correct take.
Speaker 1: Yes, so all right, well we'll make that a rule.
Speaker 1: I think it.
Speaker 3: Well, it's almost a rule. I think you can only
Speaker 3: wear alternate U firms like three times.
Speaker 1: A year or something something like that. But that is uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's pretty good.
Speaker 3: You want to know a cool thing that happened in
Speaker 3: that game, that Buffalo game, I mean a stat stat wise.
Speaker 3: Stat Wise, I meant, well, it's a thing that happened,
Speaker 3: but I can apply a cool statue.
Speaker 1: Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 3: Uh so, Antoine Winfield, I'm going to find a reason
Speaker 3: to rave about every week. Makes another play on a blitz,
Speaker 3: jumps up, deflects the ball, and Will Goldston comes down
Speaker 3: with the uh deflection correct.
Speaker 1: He gets an interception for his first interception in eleven years.
Speaker 3: And it was in his one hundred and sixtieth game played. Really,
Speaker 3: so he got his first interception in his one hundred
Speaker 3: and sixtieth game. So I started thinking earlier today, hmmm,
Speaker 3: or actually I think it was yesterday. I wonder, what's
Speaker 3: the record for the latest game in one's career of
Speaker 3: get they got their first interception, and I went, I.
Speaker 1: Have no idea how to look that up? How did you?
Speaker 3: I didn't. I went over and asked, or I sent
Speaker 3: an email to Ben and Dan and Ben and Andrew
Speaker 3: in pr asking him if they had any ideas of
Speaker 3: how to do that, because we have a number of
Speaker 3: different stat services and some of them I am familiar
Speaker 3: with and some of them I'm not. And they they
Speaker 3: that I do, and if you're really desperate, you can
Speaker 3: you can send an email to Elias and their database.
Speaker 1: And they can usually figure that stuff.
Speaker 3: That's pretty cool, but it sometimes it takes a day
Speaker 3: or two to get in answer. And Ben, who did
Speaker 3: an awesome job on this, told me he had already
Speaker 3: thought of that and it started searching it on I
Speaker 3: think True media and it just timed out on him.
Speaker 3: So he didn't know if it was going to work,
Speaker 3: but he says, I'll.
Speaker 1: Try it again.
Speaker 3: So what he did was he took he filtered for
Speaker 3: everybody who played one hundred and fifty nine games and
Speaker 3: had zero interceptions, if you played at least one hundred
Speaker 3: fifty nine or if you played one hundred fifty nine
Speaker 3: games had zero interceptions. Okay, see what I'm saying there,
Speaker 3: that that would be the crew that could possibly get
Speaker 3: their first interception in their one hundred and sixtieth game
Speaker 3: or later. And then he took all those people that
Speaker 3: had spat out, saw which ones had an interception, and
Speaker 3: then I don't remember the whole methodology, but.
Speaker 1: He stared it out. That's pretty smart.
Speaker 3: So how do you think that ranks.
Speaker 1: Of one hundred and sixty games? First, iront, I think
Speaker 1: we were lank.
Speaker 3: Five the fifth latest game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pretty good.
Speaker 3: That's really good because it's actually tied for seven. Really,
Speaker 3: the incredible thing here is that a couple of years ago,
Speaker 3: you remember Steve McClinton, that was a defensive lineman.
Speaker 1: The Bucks got into trade from Miami. No, from New England.
Speaker 3: Okay, no, the Jets. They got him in a trade
Speaker 3: deadline trade with the Jets. Right, Okay, he played a
Speaker 3: few years, was on the Super Bowl team. We traded
Speaker 3: for him because vide Vea was hurt. He got an
Speaker 3: interception while with the Bucks, his first one in his
Speaker 3: one hundred and sixtieth game.
Speaker 1: That is a wild way today. Yeah, that's so. Now
Speaker 1: there must be a third because there actually happens in threes.
Speaker 3: There is a third. Really, you're not a buccaneer, but
Speaker 3: a third player. First interception of one hundred and sixtieth game,
Speaker 3: and he's a Hall of Famer. Unfortunately he's no longer
Speaker 3: with us. Derek Thomas. Wow, the former Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 1: Great. Wow, who was there the year I worked for
Speaker 1: Kansas City? Yeah, holy smokes.
Speaker 3: Derek Thomas had his first interception in his one hundred
Speaker 3: and sixtieth career game.
Speaker 1: Now, see that's the kind of stat I like, that's
Speaker 1: what you know? Well, because that's all numbers to me,
Speaker 1: no pun intended, but that that is. Yes, there's a
Speaker 1: human interest story with that.
Speaker 3: Oh it actually Ben told me how he did it,
Speaker 3: so I'll read it all right. I set a search
Speaker 3: for at least one hundred and fifty nine consecutive games
Speaker 3: with zero interceptions to begin a career. It populated ninety
Speaker 3: two results, and I went one by one.
Speaker 1: Wow, guy, to.
Speaker 3: See which of these ninety two players. Those ninety two
Speaker 3: players ended their career with at least one iron t
Speaker 3: From there, it was just going to their game logs
Speaker 3: and seeing how it shook out. Well, Ben, so Ben,
Speaker 3: that's a lot of work. That's props to you, bet
Speaker 3: he said the bottom. I probably should get back to work.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, that's props to Ben for helping the salty
Speaker 1: dogs out. That was a good one. I like it.
Speaker 3: So Number one is Trace Armstrong. Remember Trace arms from
Speaker 3: when I get there for all time? Yeah, two hundred
Speaker 3: and one and one. Wow, jeezu, that's what I wonder.
Speaker 3: How many fifteen seasons? That's a good question. Wow, I
Speaker 3: have so many windows open on my computer.
Speaker 1: That is That is remark, Trace Armstrong? Did you play
Speaker 1: for anybody else? Oh?
Speaker 3: He played for Miami and Oakland too. Actually he played
Speaker 3: as long for Miami as he did for oak Chicago. Anyway,
Speaker 3: he only played in two hundred and eleven games, and
Speaker 3: he had ten games in his last season. So he
Speaker 3: got his first interception in the very last game of
Speaker 3: his career fourteenth season, played fifteen that's crazy.
Speaker 1: I guess you never forget your I in T then
Speaker 1: you wouldn't.
Speaker 3: Randy White, he's a Hall of Famer. Right, he is
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty fifth game. Wow, Anthony Pleasant, I
Speaker 3: think he must have played for the Browns one hundred
Speaker 3: and seventy sixth something named Greg Craigan. I've never heard
Speaker 3: of one hundred sixty five Art Still, who I just
Speaker 3: this is the second time of Naves said Art Still
Speaker 3: in this podcast. One hundred sixty four art Still's famous.
Speaker 3: He's probably in the Hall of Fame, although I don't
Speaker 3: know for sure. Joe Nash, I have not heard of
Speaker 3: one hundred and sixty three. And then the three guys
Speaker 3: we mentioned with one hundred and sixty. Wow, that's a
Speaker 3: need little status.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I saw Will on Monday even props and
Speaker 1: he was looking for his ball. They had it, and
Speaker 1: I saw him in the equipment.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell him that note or maybe I should
Speaker 3: let them into it.
Speaker 1: Since he well, well, maybe Ben should.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Here's okay, you're here's another stat all right that
Speaker 3: you're gonna end up liking, okay, okay, is about Levonte.
Speaker 1: David Oh, anything you say about Lavonte.
Speaker 3: Like Levante has had in his last three games, has
Speaker 3: had twelve, thirteen and fourteen tackles.
Speaker 1: Okay, which is the first streak like that that we've
Speaker 1: had in a while.
Speaker 3: That has put him all the way up to it's
Speaker 3: so good when we get to do this when I
Speaker 3: have my laptop with Yeah. Second, that has put him
Speaker 3: up to a total of one four hundred and eleven
Speaker 3: tackles in his career, which means he is closing in
Speaker 3: on one. Mister Rende Barber for the second spot. Derek
Speaker 3: Brooks has a lead that'll probably a number that will
Speaker 3: probably never be topped, twenty one hundred ninety eight in
Speaker 3: Bucks history. Second, amazingly a cornerback. This is again how
Speaker 3: amazing Ronde was. Amazingly cornerback is second on our list
Speaker 3: at fourteen twenty eight, but now Levante's third at fourteen
Speaker 3: to eleven. So decent chance he gets it within the
Speaker 3: next two weeks. Yeah, that's pretty that's pretty big happening, right.
Speaker 1: And he's playing and he's playing like yeah, playing like
Speaker 1: a kid.
Speaker 3: I think it's mostly because he came on our podcast.
Speaker 1: Maybe, yeah, it could be that, I think, And I
Speaker 1: had to remind him that he was playing for a contract,
Speaker 1: so you know, there was that toket to keep things going.
Speaker 3: He owes fourth on for us all time and tackles.
Speaker 1: Do you know, do I know who's guest fourth and
Speaker 1: all time tackle for the Bucks? Yeah? I figured you
Speaker 1: were saying that fourth all time tackle. Don't know? I mean,
Speaker 1: I really you can't even guess. John Lynch, Hardy Nickerson, Oh,
Speaker 1: Hardy really, Hardy didn't really play that long.
Speaker 3: He was here from ninety three to ninety nine, So
Speaker 3: that's seventh season, that's true. Yeah, but remember he was
Speaker 3: the guy tackles.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just gonna say, yeah, and that's when. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it wasn't until Derek Brooks came along that that
Speaker 3: he then started to not always be the tackle leader,
Speaker 3: right U and fifth is Shelton Corals.
Speaker 1: Actually John Lynch is sixth? Oh, okay, Batman, what is seventh?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 3: M Chase McLoughlin. Let's talk about him. A fifty seven
Speaker 3: yarder in that game. He's already hit two fifty seven
Speaker 3: yarders this season. And this one was not in a
Speaker 3: dome with no wind. Now, the elements were a facturate
Speaker 3: this one. I was a little surprised he sent him
Speaker 3: out for that fifty seven yarder.
Speaker 1: I was too.
Speaker 3: He had the fifty one yarder blocked.
Speaker 1: That's and the reason why I got the fifty seven
Speaker 1: and I was thinking about that, but then when you
Speaker 1: were talking, I was like, yeah, but what about that
Speaker 1: one that got blocked? So he's had his what'd he say?
Speaker 1: What did he say? What did who say? McLoughlin did.
Speaker 1: I didn't say, he said, oh, I thought you said
Speaker 1: he said no.
Speaker 3: So he had a fifty seven yard hes already had.
Speaker 3: He's already had three fifty plus kicks. He's yeah, fifty
Speaker 3: seven twice, so you know, that's that's kind of cool.
Speaker 3: His only two this is that a fourteen tries this year.
Speaker 3: We're both blocks. I don't remember the first one. Sometimes
Speaker 3: when you have a block, especially on a long field
Speaker 3: goal attempt, you wonder it was that the kicker's fault
Speaker 3: because the trajectory was too low. But if you look
Speaker 3: at the replay, that guy pretty got up there pretty good.
Speaker 3: He got in there and a lot of that stuff
Speaker 3: he was almost sheer luck. No, this was one of
Speaker 3: the leaping ones with the hand, So I mean, if
Speaker 3: he kicks it one foot to the right, it's not blocked.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it goes in. We can't know that.
Speaker 3: Given his track record, probably it was.
Speaker 1: And we were I thought I was surprised it got
Speaker 1: blocked because you're not thinking that.
Speaker 3: Hey, while we've been on this podcast, the trade deadline
Speaker 3: is passed.
Speaker 1: Yes, so the Bucks did not make anything. So you're
Speaker 1: not You're not going anywhere, buddy boy.
Speaker 3: I got traded to the I can't even be traded
Speaker 3: in my hometown because there's no team in Saint Louis.
Speaker 1: Well, that's true. Or if you did get traded there,
Speaker 1: that would really suck for you.
Speaker 3: I mean that would not be well unless I got
Speaker 3: traded across sports to the Saint Louis Cardinals.
Speaker 1: Then you would be and you would be like, oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, you would be Oh gosh. You wouldn't be
Speaker 1: able to, wouldn't you. I don't know if I can
Speaker 1: process it. No, you couldn't. You would be overload.
Speaker 3: That's why I just don't.
Speaker 1: And you know what, it would take your enjoyment, your
Speaker 1: pleasure out of it. I wonder if it would. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I would think so maybe it would, because that's your
Speaker 1: side thing.
Speaker 3: I've never thought that being a fan of a team
Speaker 3: was a particularly positive trait. If you're looking for a
Speaker 3: job with that team, it's not a negative. I don't
Speaker 3: think but I don't think it's a positive.
Speaker 1: No, But but something like someone like Nelson Luis who
Speaker 1: grew up in Tampa Bay. He's our chief communications officer, right,
Speaker 1: he is in his dream.
Speaker 3: Job, I guess. But he doesn't really wear his fandom
Speaker 3: on his.
Speaker 1: Sleeve, you know. No, no, no, he's a pro. He's
Speaker 1: he's pro. He's a pro. But yeah, but you see
Speaker 1: if you if you worked for the Cardinals, you wouldn't
Speaker 1: be able to enjoy your fandom like you do with it.
Speaker 3: But you just said he's in his dream job.
Speaker 1: He is, but he's really professional to do that. I
Speaker 1: was trying to complete myself. Yeah, I don't like where
Speaker 1: that's headed. Well, you are a fan, fan and uh
Speaker 1: you get to release your not hostilities, but when they
Speaker 1: make you mad, and when they make you mad, you'll
Speaker 1: turn the game off when they make when they make
Speaker 1: you mad, you yell at them. Yeah, you know you
Speaker 1: were a fan, and that's that's fandom. Do you know that?
Speaker 3: Did you watch any of Have you watched any of
Speaker 3: the baseball playoffs?
Speaker 1: I have?
Speaker 3: Have you seen how the Rangers Adultess Garcia has been
Speaker 3: absolutely tearing it up?
Speaker 1: He has except he bowled a muscle on his back
Speaker 1: last night. I didn't know that. Yeah, last night. I
Speaker 1: didn't play last night. Yes they did. Who won Texans?
Speaker 1: The Texas Texas. Yeah he swung, damn, I forgot what.
Speaker 1: He swung really hard and he swung really hard and
Speaker 1: threw something in his back. He swung too hard. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: in fact, they got a couple of injuries. Max mad Max.
Speaker 1: He make sure he got her yep, Well he got hurt. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he got hurt. Career, he only threw thirty six innings,
Speaker 1: but that was.
Speaker 3: Thirty six innings record, thirty.
Speaker 1: Six pitches, but it was through three records. Are three innings.
Speaker 3: Twelve twelve pitches an ending is yeah pretty strong?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. Oh, just so you know it's on tonight.
Speaker 3: Okay, and there's no football in the way, so I
Speaker 3: make sure I'll watch it.
Speaker 1: Okay. Last night it was very very difficult. It was
Speaker 1: the Lightning were playing, Baseball was on and money I
Speaker 1: watched football, so whoever went into commercial break flip and
Speaker 1: then you were there, okay. So it was just it
Speaker 1: was like, really, wow, this is this is tough.
Speaker 3: Well anyway, Adulescrcia, who set a bunch of records in
Speaker 3: the ALCS for like Homers and RBIs and all right,
Speaker 3: you know what Cardinals traded him to Texas, did they?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: For cash considerations. Ah, I mean this is obviously before
Speaker 3: he became big.
Speaker 1: A good deal there. Tommy fam also a player that
Speaker 1: Cardinals straighted away. He was with the devil with the
Speaker 1: Rays here in Tampa also because the Cardinals straighted him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he Marcelo's in the Cardinals. He's hot right now.
Speaker 1: He's playing really very streaky hitter. Yeah. Well, he's streaking
Speaker 1: at the right time. He was four for four Saturday night. Okay, no,
Speaker 1: Sunday night. He was four for four Sunday night. Saturday night,
Speaker 1: Saturday night, that's right. They didn't play. You know what
Speaker 1: I keep forgetting. We played on Thursday and we had
Speaker 1: the weekend off. So anyways, he was four for four.
Speaker 1: He's coming up his fifth bat and he goes to
Speaker 1: the manager and says, pinch hit for me. He has
Speaker 1: a friend that never doesn't play, does it, Jase petersoner,
Speaker 1: I think something like that, And he doesn't play very often,
Speaker 1: and and Tommy thought, this is his only chance for
Speaker 1: him to get in at bat. He gives up that and.
Speaker 3: They must have been winning by a lot of that.
Speaker 1: They were it was like nine to one. Okay, he
Speaker 1: did so great, you know. See. Now that's that's the
Speaker 1: type of stories I like.
Speaker 3: I saw the headline and they only had his last
Speaker 3: name in there, which was Peterson. I know there's a
Speaker 3: player in the in the MLB named Jase Peterson, so
Speaker 3: it was probably him.
Speaker 1: So that's why being a fan you can do all
Speaker 1: of that stuff. But if you work for them.
Speaker 3: Okay, I knew nothing about the Bucks before I came here,
Speaker 3: and now I probably did. Though I probably know more
Speaker 3: about the Bucks than maybe five people in the You
Speaker 3: know a lot about the Buckall Stewart, I think I
Speaker 3: know a lot about the Bucks, but you know a
Speaker 3: lot about the Bucks. How happy do you think that
Speaker 3: people are that came to listen to this podcast about
Speaker 3: Buccaneer football that we just did like five minutes on baseball?
Speaker 1: Well, we did five minutes of fandom.
Speaker 3: Okay, get it right, Okay, all right, all right, let's
Speaker 3: let me get to a few things.
Speaker 1: If you if you're coming to this podcast and thinking
Speaker 1: we're going to keep a straight line, and it's not.
Speaker 3: Or that we're going, Yeah, there's no straight line, no
Speaker 3: straight line like I said last week, and I'm plugging
Speaker 3: them again. If you want a very structured podcast, well
Speaker 3: structured where they hit certain points and they're prepared for
Speaker 3: them ahead of time, listen to Tampa two with Casey
Speaker 3: Phillips and Breed Dix at the end of the week.
Speaker 3: Hopefully you listen to us as well. I'm saying, honest,
Speaker 3: saying leave us just just that into your rotation.
Speaker 1: Let's just say, if we had Colorene books, we would
Speaker 1: not be in the lines I'm color see there you go.
Speaker 1: That that explains it.
Speaker 3: I have absolutely there's things in the world. There's things
Speaker 3: that people are good at that I don't even understand
Speaker 3: how it would be possibly good at. Like how do
Speaker 3: you write music? I don't even know. I could never
Speaker 3: do that. You could try to train me and I'm
Speaker 3: positive I wouldn't be able to do it.
Speaker 1: How do you? I can never paint? But that's what
Speaker 1: makes that person special.
Speaker 3: Is that Bob guy that would go on TV. Yeah
Speaker 3: he passed away recently.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but he Yeah, he would teach you
Speaker 1: how to do.
Speaker 3: It with So maybe I could do the little strokes
Speaker 3: and draw some trees, but I can I could never
Speaker 3: draw good.
Speaker 1: Drawing, just that it's a talent. It's given.
Speaker 3: Some people just can do it and I and then
Speaker 3: if you have the talent, you can make it better.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can improve your talent.
Speaker 3: But I mean some people have told me they don't
Speaker 3: know how they could ever write, you know, right, Well,
Speaker 3: I agree with that. You know, there are people that
Speaker 3: just don't have the ability to write.
Speaker 1: I can hose a letter. I can do it, but
Speaker 1: it takes me longer than it should. Oh really, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I watch you and it makes my head hurt
Speaker 1: because you fly across the keyboards and you do a
Speaker 1: lot of writing.
Speaker 3: I do a lot of writing, and you shut the
Speaker 3: door and you go. I spend a lot of time
Speaker 3: with my doorshop.
Speaker 1: Yes you do. But that's that. But everybody has their talent.
Speaker 1: You have to hone in on it.
Speaker 3: I didn't do the favorite thing you saw?
Speaker 1: Did I? You did not? Well, I forget Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess the favorite thing I saw over
Speaker 3: the weekend? No, no, no, no, no, no, that's not true,
Speaker 3: because I went to my sister's weddings. Yeah, so that
Speaker 3: would be the favorite thing.
Speaker 1: Favorite thing at the game or thing during our trip.
Speaker 3: Obviously it would be Niagara Falls, and I and I
Speaker 3: was trying to talk about this earlier. We obviously went
Speaker 3: off on a tangent and never got back to it.
Speaker 3: I don't know if everybody else feels this way, but
Speaker 3: obviously I've seen depictions of Niagara Falls and movies and whatever.
Speaker 3: I always thought it was just one big waterfall, like
Speaker 3: the and I probably was picturing the Horseshoe Falls, the
Speaker 3: one called Horseshoe Falls and which is named for an
Speaker 3: obvious reason. And there's a bunch of mist everywhere, but
Speaker 3: it's like four different waterfalls. Because this I could not
Speaker 3: believe how wide that river was. And then as it
Speaker 3: gets to where the falls are going to be, the
Speaker 3: park itself, Niagras Falls State Park or whatever, is really
Speaker 3: an island that the river splits around, so it ends
Speaker 3: up there was like four different waterfalls.
Speaker 1: I had no idea. Yeah, and there's the American side
Speaker 1: and there's the Canadian side, and if.
Speaker 3: You go to the Canadan side you can kind of
Speaker 3: get a better view angle on it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, to view it, and they it was.
Speaker 3: Pretty cool from the Americans.
Speaker 1: And they and they light them up at night. I
Speaker 1: didn't see that. That was my only uh regret, regret, is.
Speaker 1: I've seen it before, but I went and saw it
Speaker 1: during the daytime the night before. I wish I would
Speaker 1: have walked down, and I chose not to. Well, anyway,
Speaker 1: it was cool. Yeah.
Speaker 3: The other favorite thing probably be back.
Speaker 1: Is a fire alarm. Again, he's a siren.
Speaker 3: A fire alarm went off on our building today and
Speaker 3: it wasn't a test, so the firemen had to come
Speaker 3: fire apartment yep, and we all had to go stand
Speaker 3: outside on the field. I'm acting like this was such
Speaker 3: a terrible inconvenience.
Speaker 1: I wonder how long it took the fireman to get
Speaker 1: through past security.
Speaker 3: Mike, All right, let's not Mike Martin doesn't even be
Speaker 3: catching strays.
Speaker 1: I'm he's a very good security guy. He does not
Speaker 1: let anyone in Scott Smith in particular.
Speaker 3: No, he wouldn't let.
Speaker 1: Me out with that one. Well, that's.
Speaker 3: It's funny that a fire alarm goes off and nobody,
Speaker 3: nobody moves, nobody, nobody believes fire alarms. Nobody believes a
Speaker 3: fire alarm.
Speaker 1: That is so that is not good.
Speaker 3: You would have to smell the smoke probably before you
Speaker 3: would actually will.
Speaker 1: In fairness to us, we were eating our our lunch
Speaker 1: and we looked around and went out, seeing.
Speaker 3: Well, we were also about five ft from a door. Yeah, well,
Speaker 3: we could have got out pretty quick.
Speaker 1: We had an exit strategy in place, so we were good.
Speaker 3: To get But nobody else came and left the building
Speaker 3: until somebody came around and made them. Yes, we actually
Speaker 3: have I don't know what they're called, their fire marshals.
Speaker 3: Like each department has its own little fire fire guy.
Speaker 3: He was supposed to lead the way if there.
Speaker 1: Is a fire. Somebody asked me who in my department
Speaker 1: was in charge? It's not me, that's all I know.
Speaker 3: But I know it's not Jeff.
Speaker 1: But I told you how I would get out of
Speaker 1: my office.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't believe you though you could do it.
Speaker 3: I don't think those windows will break.
Speaker 1: They will.
Speaker 3: I'm telling Jeff thinks you could throw.
Speaker 1: It's a double it's a double pain. But you have
Speaker 1: to hit the first paint and get the second pain.
Speaker 1: Just so you know.
Speaker 3: He said he would his office. He can get to
Speaker 3: the little ledge by the big football. Yep, that's on
Speaker 3: the front of the building. He said, break the window,
Speaker 3: hop out on that ledge, and then go over and
Speaker 3: climb down the football, which I think you could do.
Speaker 1: Yes, you can. I've looked at it. I examined it. Yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: that's really sled down.
Speaker 3: Tell me that's your extra strategy. If the fire is
Speaker 3: on the other side of your door, yes, Otherwise it
Speaker 3: would probably best to just walk to the Stairwell, don't think.
Speaker 1: This would be true. But if the only X that
Speaker 1: I had was well, yeah, I mean i'd be paying attention.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't have access to that ledge, so you have
Speaker 3: to jump.
Speaker 1: I'd let you come in my office.
Speaker 3: Under this scenario, I would have to already be in
Speaker 3: your office because the fires outside your door. I guess
Speaker 3: I just tried to jump into those bushes, right.
Speaker 1: I was going to see if you could leap on
Speaker 1: that ledge. But no, I don't think he'd make it.
Speaker 3: So I might break a leg, but I think I
Speaker 3: would die.
Speaker 1: Hopefully we don't have to work. No, you wouldn't that fall? Well,
Speaker 1: I could break it. You'd break a leg on that fall. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're on the second floor.
Speaker 3: I was What I was trying to say was that
Speaker 3: my favorite thing other than the Niagara Falls was that
Speaker 3: Mike Evans touchdown catch.
Speaker 1: Oh great, for one thing.
Speaker 3: Every time Mike Evans scores a touchdown, it's another milestone.
Speaker 3: He keeps moving up the all time list. He moved
Speaker 3: from ty for eighteenth to ty for seventeenth with Jimmy Graham,
Speaker 3: and each time he catches another pass until ninety two,
Speaker 3: he's going to move up another spot.
Speaker 1: It was a big time catch and the catch was amazing.
Speaker 1: I told the guy's helmet I didn't know that. He
Speaker 1: just kind of yep, wow.
Speaker 3: He I looked at the next gin little moving dots
Speaker 3: on that one too, And that guy, Toron Johnson is
Speaker 3: one of the best slock corners in the league. And
Speaker 3: Mike came out of the slot on that play on
Speaker 3: the right side and then he crawled across to the left.
Speaker 3: Toron Johnson had tight coverage on him the entire way.
Speaker 3: Mike never had more than two yards of separation. And
Speaker 3: by the time the ball arrived it was zero point nine, right,
Speaker 3: So that dude was all over him and he still
Speaker 3: made that, kidd, and it was on fourth down and
Speaker 3: needed it bad. It was if he doesn't catch that,
Speaker 3: then we have no chance to win the game.
Speaker 1: You're not You're not arguing about a hell mary if that.
Speaker 3: Doesn't Yeah, So that was I mean, Mike is just
Speaker 3: I mean, it wasn't more can we say?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just so good. My favorite thing at the game.
Speaker 1: Are you ready? The Frisbee dogs. Oh yeah, Frisbee dog
Speaker 1: They were awesome. Yep. I just I don't know why
Speaker 1: I have seen them. I can't count how many times,
Speaker 1: but every time I do, it still makes me laugh.
Speaker 1: It just you know, well, they're so happy. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: and they're so good.
Speaker 3: They're so good too, but it looks like it just
Speaker 3: makes them so happy. Yeah, they g at the end.
Speaker 3: They always run all the way back to the owner
Speaker 3: and jump into his arms.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I do have to ask, did you have chicken wings?
Speaker 1: When you were up there? Did you get wings?
Speaker 3: I did not, really didn't eat out at all, real, wow.
Speaker 3: I stayed in and got stuff done on Wednesday night.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I was leaving. I worked on the airplane
Speaker 1: getting there, and then when I got to the hotel room,
Speaker 1: I finished working and then I went to dinner and
Speaker 1: had I did have wings. I mean I've had wings
Speaker 1: at Buffalo. Yeah, I know, but it was just kind
Speaker 1: of like they tasted pretty much the same too, But
Speaker 1: it just kind of fun.
Speaker 3: They get credit for inventing it, I guess. Yeah, But
Speaker 3: I mean, plenty of people have done good wings all
Speaker 3: over the.
Speaker 1: Place, and I do have to give the Buffalo well,
Speaker 1: I should say the Bill's mafia props very impressed with
Speaker 1: their tailgating abilities, very very impressed. That's good. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: didn't see any of that. You didn't, No, not on
Speaker 1: your long bus ride in Oh I don't. I wasn't
Speaker 1: paying attention. That was another thing. I was up for
Speaker 1: thirty seven straight hours. Were you cranky? No, it was okay, okay,
Speaker 1: it's weird. Wells as you were with your family.
Speaker 3: It's weird because if I was with you, you'd be great.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I've had a lot of those experiences.
Speaker 3: I'm sure it's happened at some point in my life,
Speaker 3: maybe in college. But it's funny how I would I
Speaker 3: would get really tired, but then you'd like hit a
Speaker 3: second win feel and then it happened multiple times over.
Speaker 3: So I got up around I don't know, maybe nine
Speaker 3: on Thursday morning, but that would be eight o'clock Saint Louis.
Speaker 3: So then work the game, went back to the hotel,
Speaker 3: the hotel near the airport, got there. Run two knew
Speaker 3: I was taking a show to the airport at five,
Speaker 3: so I didn't bother going to sleep.
Speaker 1: Did you have a room? Yeah? Oh, well, so you
Speaker 1: were able to take a shower, and I took a change.
Speaker 1: She got a little bit of work. Does No, it
Speaker 1: was great.
Speaker 3: I appreciate Tim Drocky doing that because there were other
Speaker 3: people who were flying commercials, so they were getting them rooms.
Speaker 3: So didn't sleep because there was no point in trying
Speaker 3: to go to sleep in the fearful of not waking up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you had a very early morning flight to go.
Speaker 3: To go to the airport. I have difficulty sleeping on planes,
Speaker 3: so that would have made sense. I had two different
Speaker 3: plane flights. I might have dozed off once or twice,
Speaker 3: but it was only for a few minutes. So then
Speaker 3: I get there, I'm with my family. I'm not going
Speaker 3: to I tried to take a nap in the afternoon,
Speaker 3: but I can't nap, so even though I hadn't slept
Speaker 3: at that point for like twenty four hours, I couldn't sleep,
Speaker 3: so I got back up, so I didn't go to
Speaker 3: bed till I don't know it must say I think
Speaker 3: it was up for longer than thirty seven hours, because
Speaker 3: that's what I was saying at my sister's party. Anyway, whatever,
Speaker 3: the point being that was weird. I didn't I didn't
Speaker 3: enjoy that, but it was a necessary thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we flying back. We landed it around I don't know,
Speaker 1: four fifteen something like that. Yeah, I got home by five.
Speaker 1: I was up at eight thirty. Back in here, it's
Speaker 1: a little after night the coaches show. Yeah, it got
Speaker 1: a little after nine, and then I was here until
Speaker 1: almost six. And when I got home, I really wanted
Speaker 1: to go to bed, and I made my all that's smart.
Speaker 1: I just was like, no, you know, just you know,
Speaker 1: try to get to ten o'clock.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like when you're trying to avoid it's like
Speaker 3: when you're trying to avoid jet light.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got to like nine forty. Okay, that's close enough.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm out. But yeah, the night games and it
Speaker 1: takes it. Then you know, on Saturday, you know, you
Speaker 1: kind of you're almost back the normal. But yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's tough. And I feel sorry for the players because
Speaker 1: you know, they had to be here, they had to
Speaker 1: be here at like ten o'clock because of treatment. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but then they got a couple days off. They did,
Speaker 1: they did, don't go in as practice.
Speaker 3: Anyway, I said last week that I would share the
Speaker 3: football related joke that I gave in the in my
Speaker 3: Toesi's wedding, which was beautiful. By the way, she didn't
Speaker 3: get to do the part outside she wanted to do.
Speaker 3: The ceremony was a large wedding, one hundred people.
Speaker 1: Medium.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was probably okay.
Speaker 1: It was medium.
Speaker 3: There weren't a lot of the usual wedding bells and whistles.
Speaker 3: She didn't have a because obviously it's my older sister,
Speaker 3: so if you know how old I am, you can
Speaker 3: But she doesn't look anywhere near her age, and she's
Speaker 3: she and her husband have a long time left together.
Speaker 3: And but they didn't do this is the second marriage
Speaker 3: for both. Sure they did didn't do a lot of
Speaker 3: the bells and wilson and they've been through it already. Yes,
Speaker 3: they didn't have a wedding party, for instance, And they
Speaker 3: didn't they didn't even have a head table for them
Speaker 3: to eat dinner at. They just wanted to move around
Speaker 3: the room and oh that's very cool say with different
Speaker 3: people at the times, and just she just wanted to
Speaker 3: dance a lot. But anyway, it was really beautiful they
Speaker 3: moved the reception was already gonna be indoors, and they
Speaker 3: moved the ceremony party indoors too, And it was very beautiful.
Speaker 3: I know she wanted to be outside, but it was
Speaker 3: just a wonderful venue. It was at a winery.
Speaker 1: Oh, very cool.
Speaker 3: It was really really neat. They did great job. And anyway,
Speaker 3: I was asked to give a toast, which I spent
Speaker 3: a long time practicing on because I don't like to
Speaker 3: have cards. I want to just which is a bit
Speaker 3: of a shame. I probably should have kept notes because
Speaker 3: I actually realized afterwards that I forgot a few parts
Speaker 3: and I missed a good joker too here or there.
Speaker 3: But I did land the main joke. Her husband grew
Speaker 3: up in Chicago, actually in downtown Chicago, and is a huge,
Speaker 3: huge Bears fan to this day, which you know, you
Speaker 3: know she mentioned that in her vowels, because they wrote
Speaker 3: their own vowels. And then when I mentioned it again,
Speaker 3: I'm like, went to the crime, like, this isn't the
Speaker 3: big joke. I went to the crowd, it's okay to
Speaker 3: boo that part. I said, he's a Bears fan, and
Speaker 3: then a bunch of people booed because they're mostly like
Speaker 3: Chiefs and Cowboys fans in the room. And I'm like,
Speaker 3: you couldn't booo my sister during her vowls, but you
Speaker 3: can boo now, right, And anyway, as part of the speech,
Speaker 3: I said something about him being a Bears fan. I said, so, Mike,
Speaker 3: in honor of that, I wanted to be the first
Speaker 3: to congratulate you. And by the way, I want to say,
Speaker 3: I cleared this joke with my sister beforehand.
Speaker 1: Okay, make sure that it wasn't going to be a
Speaker 1: fans all of a sudden, my mind is racy, Like
Speaker 1: where's he going with?
Speaker 3: I said to Mike, I'm like, I wanted to be
Speaker 3: the first to congratulate you on now having had more
Speaker 3: wives than the Bears ever had good quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: Why it was great. I got a lot of less.
Speaker 3: And then I said, to be honest, Mike, you're just
Speaker 3: patting your dad at this point, and you already had it. Yeah, right,
Speaker 3: I told him. We you know, I watched the Buccaneers
Speaker 3: beat the Bears earlier this season, and I don't think
Speaker 3: Justin Fields is coming for your leader. Yeah, although I
Speaker 3: actually kind of like Justin Fields.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I went over with. I like that part went
Speaker 3: over with and then I got sentimental. Of course, well
Speaker 3: gotta do that.
Speaker 1: Did you get teary eye? Be honest, yes, I have
Speaker 1: to admit this is the best part that if Scott
Speaker 1: is very sensitive, but you never it has to be
Speaker 1: certain things. It's not like you're not that person like
Speaker 1: always emotion.
Speaker 3: I'll bare my soul here. I'm a bit of a crier.
Speaker 3: I cry at movies all the time. You have told
Speaker 3: me this, and I cry at every wedding I go to.
Speaker 3: I just think they're beautiful events, even if I don't
Speaker 3: even know the people all that well, when the you know,
Speaker 3: the bride's walking down the aisle and she looks so beautiful,
Speaker 3: and you know what they're doing there, and they're so happy,
Speaker 3: they're they're about to make vows for their rest of
Speaker 3: their lives to each other.
Speaker 1: It's just the whole thing's beautiful to me. I love weddings.
Speaker 3: So now adding the fact that my sister who I loved, yeah,
Speaker 3: there was no chance I wasn't going to cry, but
Speaker 3: I made it through my toast without crying nice, which
Speaker 3: was the only time. I practiced a bunch of times
Speaker 3: and never could do it without choking up. And I
Speaker 3: made it through without choking up. So I think it's
Speaker 3: because I was very nervous. You wouldn't think i'd be
Speaker 3: nervous because I sometimes speak in front of sixty thousand
Speaker 3: people at a stadium. Yes, but I was, for some
Speaker 3: reason very nervous. That's because it mattered.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's right. Can you give us the toast.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do the whole thing, and I just.
Speaker 3: Gave you the highlight right there. All I just thought,
Speaker 3: maybe you know, no, I think it's kind of personal.
Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough. Well, I'm glad that you were able
Speaker 1: to make it. I'm glad the schedule makers made it.
Speaker 3: That was incredible was that I would have missed a
Speaker 3: game for my sister's way. But I didn't have to.
Speaker 1: And that's the hardest part that we've talked about before.
Speaker 1: You you just got to figure it out.
Speaker 3: If it would have been the first Buccaneer's game that
Speaker 3: I did not work. I can't say that I wasn't
Speaker 3: at because the COVID year Colvid killed us, but the
Speaker 3: first game that I did not work since nineteen ninety three.
Speaker 3: It's crazy when former owner you clover House decided a
Speaker 3: few weeks into the season that there were too many
Speaker 3: people on the plane. Yeah, so every department had to
Speaker 3: lose a person. I was a low man on phone
Speaker 3: pole in pr and I didn't get to go to
Speaker 3: the Giants game. And then they realized very next week
Speaker 3: they realized the people they kicked off they really needed
Speaker 3: and let us all back.
Speaker 1: Sure, what a concept. People who work for a living
Speaker 1: on game day, Maybe they should go to the game.
Speaker 3: How long we're going going.
Speaker 1: About fifty seven minutes? Okay, so we can go a
Speaker 1: little more. We don't have to. Yeah, it's up to you.
Speaker 3: Well, I wanted to. I wanted to. H I thought
Speaker 3: that Todd Bowles had a really good line about about
Speaker 3: the Trade Dead I Love Monday. He was asked where
Speaker 3: the Buck's going to be buyers or sellers? And I
Speaker 3: just I thought, I think this is his best press
Speaker 3: conference line of the whole year. Yep, he goes, we're
Speaker 3: going to be listeners. We're not trying to be buyers
Speaker 3: and sellers, but will listen, right. I totally loved it.
Speaker 3: Was a great line, and I'm I think it was
Speaker 3: also true and accurate, not just him trying to deflect it.
Speaker 1: I think that's that's very, very true. You know, everyone
Speaker 1: always talks about how they need to make a trade
Speaker 1: or they want to trade. Thank you, Yes, in my office,
Speaker 1: thank you.
Speaker 3: This is like last years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, remember that that was Savannah the pr intern delivering
Speaker 1: game day releases. Who you know who used to deliver those? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Who you do know who used to deliver the previous
Speaker 1: pr intern? Yeah, Mikayla.
Speaker 3: Mikayla.
Speaker 1: Right, you're gonna see her on Sunday because she's now
Speaker 1: with the Texans. Really, see how I connected that? See
Speaker 1: how I connected that?
Speaker 3: I should have put that into connections in my in
Speaker 3: my story, in my game previews.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that would have been so I still
Speaker 1: can we have a post it? You should? That is Oh,
Speaker 1: that would be very funny and you and I would
Speaker 1: be the only ones that get it. But that I
Speaker 1: would tell her though, Yeah, that would be funny. Yes,
Speaker 1: I like it very much. So. But yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: everybody talks about how you gotta make it tr trade,
Speaker 1: and of course there is a lot of conversation. You know,
Speaker 1: a lot of people feel when I say a lot
Speaker 1: of people fans feel that we need a running back,
Speaker 1: you know, The problem is with trades, you got to
Speaker 1: a have someone that you want out there, and then
Speaker 1: hopefully those people who have that person you want want
Speaker 1: to trade and you have enough capital to trade with them,
Speaker 1: you know. So it's just not as easy as everybody
Speaker 1: makes it out to be.
Speaker 3: I don't know who'd been out there the Bucks could
Speaker 3: have traded for that would really move the needle. Well,
Speaker 3: I mean when I was talking about the shots any Yeah,
Speaker 3: Derek Hennery, we're not thirty year.
Speaker 1: At thirty years old as a running back, but you know,
Speaker 1: you're kind of running a guy in that in that
Speaker 1: particular in since which is not a.
Speaker 3: Bad thing depends on what you give up, correct, So
Speaker 3: it could be one of the the hottest new trade
Speaker 3: trend is a team is basically trying to get rid
Speaker 3: of a player anyway, and everybody knows it. So the
Speaker 3: least possible thing you can give, and everybody keeps doing
Speaker 3: this trade, not today, but in previous weeks. You try
Speaker 3: a player and a seventh round pick for a sixth round. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and sometimes it's not even a sixth round. Is there
Speaker 3: a pick in the next track or something like you
Speaker 3: just won them off the books. There was a really
Speaker 3: good article about that on The Ringer by Nora Princiatti.
Speaker 3: She calls those trades of dam sandwich.
Speaker 1: Ah, so I CA, yeah, it was. It was. It's
Speaker 1: a good article. So yes, I thought that was it.
Speaker 3: I didn't think we're gonna make any moose.
Speaker 1: No, I didn't either.
Speaker 3: I was glad we didn't trade anybody away.
Speaker 1: I am too.
Speaker 3: The Buckeers are only a half game out of first place.
Speaker 1: I yeah, I think the the the disappointing part is
Speaker 1: I just don't think we've seen this team play like
Speaker 1: they did against the Saints. I thought I thought that
Speaker 1: was the building block, like that was gonna be okay,
Speaker 1: We're gonna build on top of that point. And it
Speaker 1: just hasn't happened. And and I think that's what's kind
Speaker 1: of discouraged a number of fans. And uh, it's not
Speaker 1: as they're not grinded it out, but people start to
Speaker 1: get frustrated. The first four weeks, Uh, Dave Canalis was
Speaker 1: going to be the next head coach next year, Oh,
Speaker 1: we're gonna lose him. And three weeks later, everybody's like
Speaker 1: starting to get sour. So that's just the nature of fandom.
Speaker 3: I don't think there was a lot in this last
Speaker 3: game that people would complain about from a play calling perspective.
Speaker 3: I don't think the Atlanta game there was all this
Speaker 3: why are you running?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't run. I don't think it was the
Speaker 1: play calling. I think it was the tempo of the
Speaker 1: play calling. Okay, And because it took seven minutes and
Speaker 1: twenty one seconds. Yeah, see, I knew you would know
Speaker 1: that number when you had to score twice. Yeah.
Speaker 3: But I mean part of the reason was that drive
Speaker 3: took seventeen plays.
Speaker 1: Well, that's that's what I mean, because.
Speaker 3: A lot of plays along the way didn't work. Had
Speaker 3: some of those plays worked earlier, the drive would have
Speaker 3: been quicker. But you had to dig yourself out of
Speaker 3: a hole like four times.
Speaker 1: But also, but also it you know they were huddling up,
Speaker 1: they were it wasn't It wasn't what you call the
Speaker 1: two minute drill or the four minute drill. So I
Speaker 1: would I would say that's what the argument tome was.
Speaker 3: The Todd Balls acknowledged yesterday that yes, the Buccaneers need
Speaker 3: to pick up their tempo in a situation like that.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, let's at least acknowledge the situation here,
Speaker 3: the Buccaneers didn't get the ball back with ten minutes
Speaker 3: with the intention of taking seven minutes, and they didn't
Speaker 3: run the ball a bunch of times. They just were
Speaker 3: not succeeding on first and second down, and so that's
Speaker 3: taking time.
Speaker 1: But Todd also said that the reason why they weren't
Speaker 1: rushing is when they did rush, they were having miscues,
Speaker 1: so they slowed it up to make sure they didn't
Speaker 1: have any miscues. And who knows, And in fairness, if
Speaker 1: you weren't at that stadium, you didn't realize how loud
Speaker 1: it was. And what I liked about about being there
Speaker 1: is when we had not that I liked it. They
Speaker 1: were booing or yelling while the Bucks had the ball.
Speaker 1: But it's very, very loud. But when the Bills had
Speaker 1: the ball, you could hear a pin drop that that
Speaker 1: I you know, those fans understood what they're what they
Speaker 1: were doing.
Speaker 3: Another thing about this whole the drive took so long.
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 3: Let's not forget that Mike Evans caught a forty two
Speaker 3: yard pass on the third play of the drive. On
Speaker 3: the fourth play of the drive, that would have made
Speaker 3: this a much quicker drive, but it was called back
Speaker 3: on a holding, PA.
Speaker 1: That's great observation, so very good.
Speaker 3: I'm saying there's a lot of Yep, there's a lot
Speaker 3: of noise here. There's a lot of reasons why this
Speaker 3: took so long. And like you said, they were concerned
Speaker 3: about making mistakes. Had they gone on tempo and made
Speaker 3: a couple of mistakes, the drive probably never I mean
Speaker 3: you got a score. Yeah, they probably would have never
Speaker 3: scored it. We lost by two touches.
Speaker 1: That was a good that's that's a good point. A
Speaker 1: forty three yard play getting pulled back? Was it holding? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I was holding on Cody Mark, Yeah, Malk Malk.
Speaker 1: So yeah, Okay, fair enough, that's very good. All right,
Speaker 1: all right, all right. I like that.
Speaker 3: And on defense to me and Todd Bowles alluded to
Speaker 3: it a little bit when he said, the ball not
Speaker 3: going over our heads, but they're getting too.
Speaker 1: Much, yakh.
Speaker 3: They if you look, if you define explosive plays as
Speaker 3: runs of ten or more yards and passes of twenty
Speaker 3: or more yards, the Bucks actually had more than the
Speaker 3: than the Bills had in that game. But the Bills
Speaker 3: had I think somewhere around seven million, like seventeen yard passes.
Speaker 3: They were working the intermediate part of the field. So well, Yeah,
Speaker 3: they had just so many different plays that were good
Speaker 3: and part of it was yak, but they were just scheme.
Speaker 3: It was so they would get thirteen yards and they
Speaker 3: get fourteen, and they get seventeen, and like they it
Speaker 3: doesn't show up in the explosive plays Ledger, but it
Speaker 3: was a really effective offense. Yeah, and the Buccaneers struggled defensively,
Speaker 3: but I slept in the red zone once again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I will say though, I do like the fight
Speaker 1: on this team and people and people go and I
Speaker 1: had this conversation. I was like, you have to understand
Speaker 1: you and I both been around teams that we've noticed
Speaker 1: that they didn't have the fight, you know, it just
Speaker 1: it just went away. And this team is still sounded
Speaker 1: solidly together, believing that they can win, and they're just
Speaker 1: gotta quit making those mistakes. And I go with with
Speaker 1: Todd said, you got to quit beating yourself, you know.
Speaker 1: And so that's and it's not just one person. Someone
Speaker 1: takes a turn, you know, and that's unfortunate. Yep.
Speaker 3: All right, well you know it's Halloween, and I right,
Speaker 3: I do. I gotta let you out of here and
Speaker 3: go home and handle candy.
Speaker 1: To all the kids in the neighborhood. How do you
Speaker 1: feel about candy corn? Not a fan?
Speaker 3: Okay, it's like like it's gross, like because it seems
Speaker 3: to be very polarizing, like a lot of people.
Speaker 1: Really like can't cannot even stand the thought of putting
Speaker 1: it in my mind.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's the way I feel about circus peanuts, by
Speaker 3: the way, which are disgusting.
Speaker 1: I love the circus they're disgusting. Love and the shells.
Speaker 3: What no circus peanuts? The candy Oh oh, it's like
Speaker 3: the spongy orange ye shaped like a Peanuts disgusting.
Speaker 1: All right, It's like, yeah, it's a fake mushroom. You
Speaker 1: are a fake marsh bellow. Go ahead.
Speaker 3: You don't see that much anymore, but you still see
Speaker 3: candy corn everywhere. It seems to be very polarizing. Do
Speaker 3: you have a favorite candy for Halloween?
Speaker 1: M and M's are my big just not a big
Speaker 1: I'm a big M and M guy. TOTSI roll love those.
Speaker 1: I like the flavored to rolls. You like those? No? Oh,
Speaker 1: they're great? No, just I love those. I Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: not a you know I like I like not neither
Speaker 1: do I but you know, I like the I like
Speaker 1: the atomic fireball once.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's out of there. No, that's just when it
Speaker 3: comes to candy bars, you don't see it a lot.
Speaker 3: But if you get one hundred grand, I've never had
Speaker 3: one of those, what I've never I'm bringing you one.
Speaker 3: I'm going to bring you one.
Speaker 1: Really, i've never had one.
Speaker 3: You've never had a one hundred grand bar.
Speaker 1: Don't even picture. You don't even know what it is, Okay, now,
Speaker 1: other than it probably says one hundred grand on, I'm going.
Speaker 3: To find you one, and you're gonna realize they're the
Speaker 3: best candy bar, the best ever. It's my favorite candy bar.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, fair enough.
Speaker 3: Mikaway Midnights are pretty good too. What milk Key Way Midnight?
Speaker 3: It's dark chocolate and there's caramel I don't like. I
Speaker 3: don't like regular milky ways.
Speaker 1: No, no, dark chocolate, I got it. If I yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll bring you one of those. You've never had that.
Speaker 3: No, I'm gonna bring you those two things.
Speaker 1: I used to like.
Speaker 3: Maybe I'll go trick or treating. I gotta find it.
Speaker 3: I gotta find a costume so I can go trick
Speaker 3: or treating.
Speaker 1: So you don't have to buy anything. That's where the
Speaker 1: that's where the line becomes how old are you.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get some crutches and maybe like some fake
Speaker 3: casts and go as a NFL quarterback in Week eight
Speaker 3: because I think they.
Speaker 1: All got hurt. What you should do is carry a
Speaker 1: sign that just says, get off my lawn. I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins got hurt. Can you pick it?
Speaker 3: Got hurt, Tyra Taylor got hurt. Desmond River might have
Speaker 3: got hurt. Old There seems to be kind of a
Speaker 3: mystery about that whole thing. It was kind of it
Speaker 3: was kind of brutal out there over the weekend.
Speaker 1: Achilles heel, Yeah, that was the Kirk one.
Speaker 3: Can you imagine everybody wanted the Vikings to trade Kirk
Speaker 3: Cousin of the Jets. Can you measure if he got
Speaker 3: traded the Jets and then did Achilles just like Rogers? Wow,
Speaker 3: that would have been nuts.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. And what's weird about that play is it's
Speaker 1: not like he got tackled or anything, just.
Speaker 3: The way those injuries usually happened. And no, I guess
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers was being tackled.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he planted his foot but he planted. Kirk Cousins
Speaker 1: planted his foot to take off running and went down.
Speaker 3: Every time I see an injury like that, like an
Speaker 3: achilles just pops like that, I wonder was it about
Speaker 3: to go? I would like it was destined to happen.
Speaker 3: It was just a matter of when. And you don't
Speaker 3: realize how you got a ticking time bomb in the
Speaker 3: back of your ankle.
Speaker 1: I think that's the case to them. Yeah, and then
Speaker 1: that's the mark where you go, oh, that was the
Speaker 1: play that did it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you didn't know until it happened.
Speaker 1: That's a good doctor question. I wonder about that if
Speaker 1: did doctor even know how? I don't know. Well, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't you know. Is it a slow
Speaker 1: did it injury?
Speaker 3: Did you not realize it was partially torn and then
Speaker 3: you just got the rest of it? Yeah, although I
Speaker 3: think you would know if it was partially torn, you'd
Speaker 3: feel that one, you would.
Speaker 1: I've never had it.
Speaker 3: Oh, I should not have said that. I never had
Speaker 3: an achilles standing an injury. No, I've had a torny ceo. No, no, no,
Speaker 3: all right, Jeff, we will try to get a player tomorrow, right,
Speaker 3: uh huh. But either way, we are going to stop here, okay,
Speaker 3: and then we'll come back and do the fans questions.
Speaker 3: We got a bunch of them, the Salty Dogs. Wait,
Speaker 3: we're actually like recording, like we're doing the show right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Oh well then hey everyone, Well, welcome back. I can
Speaker 3: make it at it Okay, Well, don't just leave it in.
Speaker 3: That's kind of funny. Welcome back to the Salty Dogs Podcast.
Speaker 3: I'm Scott Smith.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yep you are.
Speaker 3: That's Jeff Ryan over there. I am, and we're gonna
Speaker 3: do the fan questions now.
Speaker 1: All right, my favorite my second favorite part. So the
Speaker 1: worst part is when you just have to talk to me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's brutal, but that's always the part you see is nice.
Speaker 1: I suck it up. I'm a team player. All right.
Speaker 3: Let me get to the first one. Okay, I think
Speaker 3: this is it.
Speaker 1: No, gosh, we have a lot of them. Oh that's
Speaker 1: nice though, that's good.
Speaker 3: Okay, this is the first one.
Speaker 1: I'm well, what's the matter? You have any issues with
Speaker 1: your laptop?
Speaker 3: No, I'm just trying to see which was the h Okay,
Speaker 3: we definitely did peg.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so she was the last one. She was the
Speaker 1: last one.
Speaker 3: This is from Don Little in Orlando, Florida. HOOYI old
Speaker 3: salty dogs. Actually, I guess this is really a rant
Speaker 3: and a question, but here goes. I was really disappointed
Speaker 3: to see the Bucks TV schedule this year that has
Speaker 3: both Fox and CBS televising seven Bucks games this year
Speaker 3: attached as a schedule for reference, like, Okay, I wouldn't
Speaker 3: have a schedule. Yeah, there's one right there, I see it.
Speaker 3: In years past, it seemed to me that Fox televised
Speaker 3: the majority of the Bucks games. Fox televises NFC versus
Speaker 3: yeh blah blah blah. Of the seven games. Of the
Speaker 3: seven Bucks games that CBS is televising this year, three
Speaker 3: of those games are when the Bucks are playing NFC teams,
Speaker 3: including two of our upcoming NFC South rivalry games Panthers
Speaker 3: and Falcons. I realized, in this day of streaming and
Speaker 3: subscription TV, one does not have to rely totally on
Speaker 3: network TV. However, I guess I'm too old school to
Speaker 3: change my ways. Living in Orlando, just a mere ninety
Speaker 3: miles east of Tampa, I have the great misfortune of
Speaker 3: being in the Jacksonville CBS TV market. You can probably
Speaker 3: you probably can imagine how frust rating. It is here
Speaker 3: when both the Bucks and Jags are playing at the
Speaker 3: same time, and CBS is televising both those games, because
Speaker 3: we always get the Jags game. I guess there are
Speaker 3: some sauce in the fact that one of the CBS
Speaker 3: games that the Bucks will be playing is against the Jags.
Speaker 1: Later this year.
Speaker 3: Oh that's cool, Okay, ran Over, Can you help me
Speaker 3: understand the TV networks how the TV networks determine the
Speaker 3: NFL TV schedules. Keep up the great work done, little Yeah,
Speaker 3: this is probably more in your wheelhouse.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so, well, it used to be he is correct,
Speaker 1: he correct, he is correct. It used to be the
Speaker 1: visiting team whatever division they were in NFC, will say, right, conference, yep,
Speaker 1: they would be with Fox. If you were I in
Speaker 1: the AFC, you would be then with CBS.
Speaker 3: So absolutely correct, right, the visiting teams conference determined which
Speaker 3: network it was on.
Speaker 1: Because of the new TV rights deal and because of
Speaker 1: the dollars all of these TV companies are paying, they
Speaker 1: want to be able to mix it up a little
Speaker 1: bit in case you get caught with some teams.
Speaker 3: Being may maybe the AFC is a lot more good
Speaker 3: teams than the NFC.
Speaker 1: Correct, So that is how it came about. So now
Speaker 1: the networks fight over each other. They're allowed to correct
Speaker 1: what game they want. They get so many that they
Speaker 1: can go with, and he's absolutely right on the schedule.
Speaker 1: We have it now.
Speaker 3: Nominally speaking, they still use the Foxes, NFC, CBS's AFC,
Speaker 3: but they have so many options to pick games from
Speaker 3: the other side that it doesn't really work out that.
Speaker 1: Way, right right, So then and and then with throws
Speaker 1: would also compounded this was the fact that you have
Speaker 1: a Thursday night game, a Sunday night game, and a
Speaker 1: Monday night game. So and they were trying to grab
Speaker 1: the best that they see.
Speaker 3: They wanted more good games on Thursdays.
Speaker 1: So you didn't want to limit yourself to a league.
Speaker 3: So basically, yeah, difference, that's just how they do it now.
Speaker 1: That's in the new now new deal. For him living
Speaker 1: in Orlando, it's a shame really, Okay, A lot of
Speaker 1: that is up to that particular it is. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: you get the pick and choose knowing he's right.
Speaker 3: Knowing that doesn't change the problem for don.
Speaker 1: At one time. At one time it would be you
Speaker 1: would lock in.
Speaker 3: So it's understandable. That's kind of a specific situation a
Speaker 3: specific problem for don I doubt that's a big problem
Speaker 3: for most people.
Speaker 1: And they live in Orlando too, the only one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because and and the Orlando markets really kind.
Speaker 3: Of aren't we closer to Orlando than Jacksonville. Why would
Speaker 3: they always choose Jags games?
Speaker 1: Well, because that because that was the AFC game and
Speaker 1: then we're the NFC. So so they're sticking with.
Speaker 3: He's saying when it's I understand what he's saying. When
Speaker 3: they're both on CBS, they tend to choose the jat Jacks.
Speaker 3: I wonder why because I mean, I don't know. I
Speaker 3: know as previously they were usually.
Speaker 1: Doing the Jags games. So they're staying with what they
Speaker 1: feel is good.
Speaker 3: And you could say going into the season, and even
Speaker 3: given the results the Jags are they're doing well, Yeah,
Speaker 3: they're a team you'd want to watch.
Speaker 1: Me Now, I don't know what the Jag schedule is,
Speaker 1: So I don't know how many conflicts you have right now,
Speaker 1: because they apparently there's at least a couple. Yeah. But
Speaker 1: the part about the Orlando market is that all three
Speaker 1: teams in Florida kind of own the Orlando market.
Speaker 3: Okay, they get in there, so okay, well we got
Speaker 3: to move along. It's got a tone. This is from
Speaker 3: Phillip Spencer, Phil from Spokane, Washington. He said, this one
Speaker 3: is definitely primarily for Scott, but I managed to complete
Speaker 3: my first grid. He's talking about the EMACA. Yea, naturally,
Speaker 3: it was one that included the Bucks. Thanks for sharing this.
Speaker 3: It's been a fun thing to pull up daily. No
Speaker 3: question is this week. I just wanted to say thanks
Speaker 3: and go Bucks. So he gave me a little screenshot.
Speaker 3: So it was Bucks Patriots and he went well, I
Speaker 3: mean he went the most obvious possible way with Sharton
Speaker 3: Tom Brady. Yeah, Bucks Panthers. He went with Gerald McCoy
Speaker 3: and which is only eight percent, so that's pretty good.
Speaker 3: And then Bucks in a thousand yard receiving season. He
Speaker 3: once again went with the most obvious answer, which was
Speaker 3: Mike Evans. See when I do these and the Bucks
Speaker 3: show up, I try to I try to get his
Speaker 3: the most obscure answers that I can think of. So
Speaker 3: if I was doing because you get more points for that, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm blanket on his name. Now there's when I last
Speaker 3: time it was Bucks Patriots, I did a linebacker. I
Speaker 3: can't think of his name right now though we had
Speaker 3: for a short period. But you could go like Shack
Speaker 3: Mason because what was that vint there was a linebacker
Speaker 3: name because us I can't think of his first name.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know who you're talking about.
Speaker 3: And then with the Panthers, I would have gone with
Speaker 3: a Darius Taylor, remember that linebacker changed his last name.
Speaker 3: And then thousand yard receiving. It's kind of hard to
Speaker 3: get obscure with a thousand yard receiving. Who's the most
Speaker 3: obscure thousand yard receiver in team history?
Speaker 1: Have any inputs on obscure?
Speaker 3: I mean, everybody who can think of that had a
Speaker 3: thousand yards, like Joey Galloway, a Kevin House, I think,
Speaker 3: Mike Evans, Vincent Jackson, Michael Clayton.
Speaker 1: They come easily to mine.
Speaker 3: I think the most obscure one would probably probably be
Speaker 3: Antoni O'Bryant in two thousand and eight. Oh yeah, and
Speaker 3: then we franchised him and got hurt.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he did make that wonderful catch.
Speaker 3: And yeah, amazingly enough, we're gonna be talking about that
Speaker 3: in a moment.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I'll be quiet, all right, Well, there you go.
Speaker 3: Thanks for sharing that Philip. This is from Jerry Owens
Speaker 3: from Maryland. Longtime listener, first time emailer. I'm writing this
Speaker 3: a few hours before our Thursday night game against the Bills.
Speaker 3: I've been a Bucks fan since nineteen ninety six.
Speaker 1: It's kind of a weird.
Speaker 3: Oh that's what for Tony Tony Dungee's for sure. Yeah,
Speaker 3: what would make you a Bucks fan for the first
Speaker 3: time in ninety six? I mean, who knows what's going
Speaker 3: on in his life? I don't know, and I've seen
Speaker 3: a lot to be salty about. My wife even calls
Speaker 3: me Morton when I'm in a mood. Wharton like the
Speaker 3: salt guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got it.
Speaker 3: But I wanted to share a memory for my first
Speaker 3: time seeing a Bucks game live. It was back in
Speaker 3: two thousand and eight when we played the Panthers in
Speaker 3: Carolina on a Monday night. My wife and I drove
Speaker 3: down from Maryland. I was so excited to see my
Speaker 3: team play live in a primetime game. We all know
Speaker 3: how the game ended. We still had Brooks on the team,
Speaker 3: so was Derek Brooks, so it was awesome seeing one
Speaker 3: of my favorite players do his thing in person. That
Speaker 3: was Derek's last year. My favorite moment from the game
Speaker 3: was the one handed TD grab by Antonio Bryant. Wow,
Speaker 3: it happened right in front of me because we had
Speaker 3: end zone seats.
Speaker 1: That's cool.
Speaker 3: I can picture that too, can you do? That was
Speaker 3: an unbelievable catch.
Speaker 1: Crazy.
Speaker 3: So I was wondering, what are your favorite Bucks moments
Speaker 3: excluding Super Bowls and Rende shutting down the VET so
Speaker 3: you can go first?
Speaker 1: Oh god, I mean that's a lot, right, Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: a hard one. That's a really hard one.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of choices.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Wow, you're not even gonna try, are you. I
Speaker 1: mean Johnny and Lynch making interceptions to win games. I
Speaker 1: mean Sap and Brett Farb going at it those Yeah,
Speaker 1: those are really cool plays. Yeah. I don't think I
Speaker 1: have a favorite favorite, but a couple, right, Yeah, what
Speaker 1: do you have?
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna I'm winging it here. I didn't I
Speaker 3: didn't prepare for this at all, all Right. One of
Speaker 3: them is the Saint Louis game in two thousand. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Monday night football game where the pitch I.
Speaker 1: Was gonna make I was gonna bring that up. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a good I brought that one up. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to think of ones that we haven't brought up all
Speaker 1: over the place. But that was. Yeah, that was a
Speaker 1: fun game. Wait a minute, was that really two thousand
Speaker 1: and eight the game he's talking about with antonio'bryant, Because
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the Yeah, it was the last we
Speaker 1: lost that game.
Speaker 3: That was the last year won the game. It was
Speaker 3: the overtime game.
Speaker 1: But I don't think it was a wait, no, because
Speaker 1: that would have been John Gruden's last year.
Speaker 3: Well why was that?
Speaker 1: Why is that a problem? Because we lost on Monday
Speaker 1: night against Carolina and all we were nine three and
Speaker 1: all we needed to do was win one more and
Speaker 1: we didn't.
Speaker 3: Okay, but I'm looking at the Yeah, you're right, I'm
Speaker 3: looking at the Panther schedule and the time we beat
Speaker 3: him twenty seven three, So that wasn't that game. It
Speaker 3: had to be like maybe was it seven?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 3: And both because when he said oh wait, I thought
Speaker 3: that was right, it wasn't seven either. He was two
Speaker 3: thousand and nine.
Speaker 1: Nope. I don't know. That's kind of weird, but I yeah,
Speaker 1: I do remember that Monday night game because that was
Speaker 1: that was because we weren't on Monday nights very often.
Speaker 1: That that was the other thing. That's when it became
Speaker 1: a big deal. And then after you do a bunch
Speaker 1: of primetime games, you go, gosh, give me a one
Speaker 1: o'clock game, would you please make me happy?
Speaker 3: But I'm glad that you're talking now. Are you well
Speaker 3: with philling?
Speaker 1: Are as well? You're going through what year that was?
Speaker 1: But I don't think you're it.
Speaker 3: Was twenty twelve.
Speaker 1: Really, I don't think that's right. No, we may have
Speaker 1: to go back and look that one up later.
Speaker 3: And we won twenty to seven and o seven we
Speaker 3: won twenty seven to three, But that wasn't in Carolina
Speaker 3: we won twenty to seven. In Carolina we won, we
Speaker 3: lost forty sixteen, twenty seven to twenty one. There it
Speaker 3: was twenty twelve. Wow, man, woo.
Speaker 1: The years.
Speaker 3: I gotta tell you, dude, the years. Just Jerry, I mean,
Speaker 3: come on, I know, two thousand and eight to twenty twelve.
Speaker 3: That's a big miss. Come on, Jerry. But maybe to
Speaker 3: him it was twenty twelve. Was not the year we
Speaker 3: had Antonio Bryant. No, I don't know what is going
Speaker 3: on here.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think both Jerry and I are getting Okay, let's
Speaker 3: teams confuse.
Speaker 1: Let's do this, let's table this, and we'll bring it
Speaker 1: in Dallas.
Speaker 3: Week two thousand and one, we won at Carolina, I
Speaker 3: mean twenty twelve, we won at Carolina on a Sunday
Speaker 3: on Dallas. Clark's Vincent Jackson made an incredible one nded
Speaker 3: catch in that game. Yeah, well, then that's why I'm
Speaker 3: getting them confused to tie the game. No, it wasn't.
Speaker 3: It wasn't a one end of catch, but it was
Speaker 3: an incredible touchdown catch to tie the game, and then
Speaker 3: we won it in overtime on Dallas Clark. And that
Speaker 3: was the reason that's noteworthy is because that.
Speaker 1: Was the first It was two thousand and eight when until.
Speaker 3: Trying to talk, the reason that that's noteworthy is that
Speaker 3: it was the first time the Buccaneers ever won an
Speaker 3: overtime game with a touchdown. So in two thousand and eight,
Speaker 3: we beat Carolina twenty seven to three at home and
Speaker 3: lost to him thirty to twenty three in the road.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the last. That was a Monday night game,
Speaker 1: really and that was the last.
Speaker 3: Feel like my brain is breaking.
Speaker 1: Yep, But I think that's when he made the catch.
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown had to be one of those years because
Speaker 1: that was his big year. I think it was that
Speaker 1: catch because it was such a fantastic catch. I thought
Speaker 1: for sure we were gonna win, and we didn't. Okay,
Speaker 1: how it started, and that was two thousand and eight
Speaker 1: because we were nine and three on a Monday night,
Speaker 1: just needed one win to go to the playoffs.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I'm gonna have to research this later. Anyway,
Speaker 3: I think I think Jerry and I are. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: think you were. I think, well, Jerry and I are
Speaker 3: having little lapses.
Speaker 1: Of senior moments. I understand. I think we're.
Speaker 3: Crossing several things over each other. Yeah, or maybe I'm
Speaker 3: completely misreading his email. Did he even say we won? No, No,
Speaker 3: he didn't one.
Speaker 1: He just said it was a great catch.
Speaker 3: I'm the one who messed it up because I conflated
Speaker 3: that game and Antonio Bright's great catch with Vincent Jackson's
Speaker 3: great catch in the same end zone that tied the
Speaker 3: game and sent it over. I'm sorry, Jerry, you did
Speaker 3: nothing wrong. This was one hundred percent of me. Okay,
Speaker 3: my bad, all right, But I do remember that catch
Speaker 3: was amazing.
Speaker 1: It was all right. I remember that game because again,
Speaker 1: it was.
Speaker 3: Monday combined two game memories in my head.
Speaker 1: Too much information.
Speaker 3: All right, this is from our friend in Germany, Stefan.
Speaker 1: It's by the way this weekend. Yeah, there's a game,
Speaker 1: I think. And then next word big game. Kansas City
Speaker 1: is Detroit, No, it's Kansas City. It's a good game.
Speaker 1: It's a big, big game. Because it's like, wow, how
Speaker 1: did they get the prime time Kansas City? Miami and Miami?
Speaker 1: Oh wow, I know. And interesting enough, Miami has already
Speaker 1: flown to Germany where this is on a Tuesday, and
Speaker 1: Kansas City is flying like we did Thursday.
Speaker 3: I watched the coach, Mike McDaniel, I watched his McDaniel,
Speaker 3: I watched his press conference answer about that.
Speaker 1: It was a really good explanation. Smart dude, what do
Speaker 1: you say?
Speaker 3: Basically, he wanted to he wanted to go over there
Speaker 3: so that the early so that the players the team
Speaker 3: could have their off day there, Yeah, instead of having
Speaker 3: the off day earlier in the week in Florida, so
Speaker 3: that they could do stuff together and that everybody could
Speaker 3: get their sight seeing in on that day. He's like,
Speaker 3: I was a little worried about players trying to cram
Speaker 3: in all the work we need to do and the
Speaker 3: sight seeing.
Speaker 1: Yeah makes sense. Well. Also to the NFL likes to
Speaker 1: have events that you go to, so some teams don't
Speaker 1: like to go early so they don't have to go
Speaker 1: to all those events.
Speaker 3: Man, I'm not sure we can get through all these questions.
Speaker 1: Well that's all right.
Speaker 3: This is from Stefan. Okay, it's five point thirty am
Speaker 3: in Germany. The game is over and we got a
Speaker 3: hat trick. Thanks in three losses in a row, Luke
Speaker 3: g Kttikey got a hat trick two three fall starts
Speaker 3: in one game. Scott, what is the record for fall
Speaker 3: star penalties for one player.
Speaker 1: In a game?
Speaker 3: I don't have a way to look that up now.
Speaker 3: I did, however, look up this year's penalties false starts.
Speaker 3: Carolina's Ikey ekwan Wu and Denver's Mike mclinchy have the most,
Speaker 3: with five.
Speaker 1: Bucks total. Access with Ali Marpett and Casey. Luke was
Speaker 1: on and it's a good Listen. He talked about he
Speaker 1: talks about, he talks about stuff. Yeah, he talks about
Speaker 1: the old line in the house, Yeah, yep. And how
Speaker 1: he needs to make you no excuses. But he's had
Speaker 1: a good year though, he's had a good year and
Speaker 1: what he needs. And it's an interesting conversation between him
Speaker 1: and Ali Marpett.
Speaker 3: Tristan was that's good.
Speaker 1: You should listen to that.
Speaker 3: Tristan. Tristan is playing great.
Speaker 1: At left tackle. We all know that they talk about him, but.
Speaker 3: I think probably next in terms of how well they
Speaker 3: performed on that line is Luke And that was not
Speaker 3: a given. You know, I know he played right tackle
Speaker 3: in college, but that doesn't mean you're going to be
Speaker 3: a good one in the pros. But he's done a
Speaker 3: good job. He only had one. He's got four on
Speaker 3: the year, so he only had I'm taking this guy's
Speaker 3: work for it that he had three in the game.
Speaker 3: I didn't look it up, but that means he only
Speaker 3: had one other the whole rest of the year. So
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, that sucks that he got three fall starts,
Speaker 3: but I mean he's had.
Speaker 1: A good year. He does and he's improving. Got to
Speaker 1: remember he's improving.
Speaker 3: I mean, she's Mike mclinch. He got a billion dollars
Speaker 3: from the from the Broncos and he got he's got
Speaker 3: five of them already. Wow, Okay, we need to move crazy.
Speaker 3: Last drive, by the way, another loss is frustrating, but
Speaker 3: there is hope to the halfback screen should be an
Speaker 3: option in the next games.
Speaker 1: Are White has.
Speaker 3: More receiving yards than rushing yards, right, No, that's not.
Speaker 1: Exactly right, but I get the point. Okay, I can
Speaker 1: tell you the exact answer.
Speaker 3: Hold on, he has three hundred and five rushing yards
Speaker 3: and two hundred and thirty three receivers. Hope wharfs is
Speaker 3: fine for the next game. I think you will be. Jeff.
Speaker 3: Is it possible to listen to the radio, specifically Jean's
Speaker 3: play by play here in Germany?
Speaker 1: No, Unfortunately it's geo blocked. Well, and that's a bummer.
Speaker 1: I blame you. I know that's the that's the NFL.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you can get the NFL pass.
Speaker 1: You need to look that up to uh. I don't
Speaker 1: know if they geo blocked that. I wouldn't think they
Speaker 1: would with that, but they geo block us, which means
Speaker 1: we can't go over outside one hundred miles up.
Speaker 3: Tamp I'm counting here, and we still have seven more.
Speaker 3: We're not doing seven more.
Speaker 1: We're on the next one.
Speaker 3: I mean, maybe we can come back short answers if
Speaker 3: we skip them, maybe we can come back. Well, some
Speaker 3: of them are long, though, all right, he says, until
Speaker 3: the next time, fire the cannons and go bucks.
Speaker 1: All right. Nice.
Speaker 3: This next one is from Mike in Connecticut, and it's
Speaker 3: a really long rant that I wanted to read. However,
Speaker 3: we don't have time, and he sent another one earlier
Speaker 3: today that I think we can get through more quickly,
Speaker 3: and that one goes, Hey, guys, just hoping to follow
Speaker 3: up before you tape. I still stand by my rant,
Speaker 3: which I have not read, but maybe we will next week.
Speaker 3: But I realized I blamed Luke Gettikey for the hold
Speaker 3: on Rashad White's running. It was actually Trey Palmer didn't
Speaker 3: want to be roasted for incorrectly venting, but to that point,
Speaker 3: Getiky's still at three fall starts, so he wasn't n
Speaker 3: totally innocent. Thursday night, the last point I wanted to
Speaker 3: make was where are the sacks? Did they have any
Speaker 3: against Buffalo? Sorry for the long emails, but as you
Speaker 3: can tell, the last few weeks have been pretty unbearable
Speaker 3: for fans. We had two sacks, one by Anthony Nelson
Speaker 3: in one line by yah Yah Dabi. But I think
Speaker 3: it is accurate to say the pressure was not much.
Speaker 3: Not therea vita being out obviously we talked about didn't help.
Speaker 3: We do need more from our ed dressers, though.
Speaker 1: I think that's clear.
Speaker 3: So yeah, there were two, but hard go all right,
Speaker 3: here's what I gotta read the right. I'm not in
Speaker 3: our hurry, remember you. Yeah, I know, but I got
Speaker 3: some more things to do. And we've been going like
Speaker 3: an hour and a.
Speaker 1: Half, haven't we about an hour and twenty minutes?
Speaker 3: I think at this point we're probably just not going
Speaker 3: to get a player. Well, all right, this is from
Speaker 3: Philip in California, who we've heard from before. Philip Squadron.
Speaker 3: Now you asked me if peg who we read her email? Yeah,
Speaker 3: and she had felt that you were being disrespectful to
Speaker 3: me because I mentioned that you were looking at your phone, right,
Speaker 3: and we had a good talk about it.
Speaker 1: We did.
Speaker 3: But I just want to set the scene for this email. Okay,
Speaker 3: thank you for your candid thoughts.
Speaker 1: Wait, I think this one's to you. Oh okay, dear Jeff,
Speaker 1: thank you for.
Speaker 3: Your candid thoughts throughout this podcast that you do with
Speaker 3: That other guy's got someone who is always interrupting you.
Speaker 3: I am offended that he would leave the team for
Speaker 3: something as frivolous as his sister's wedding. How dare he?
Speaker 3: That's my favorite email league, he says. The previous paragraph
Speaker 3: was an attempt at levity, which we did get.
Speaker 1: We got it.
Speaker 3: Any references to actual people living or dead is merely coincidental.
Speaker 1: So that's good. That's very good. All right.
Speaker 3: My topic is the talk recently has been the early
Speaker 3: bye week and the pros and cons of it. Do
Speaker 3: we all make anything out of the fact that they
Speaker 3: haven't won a game since we came back from the
Speaker 3: week off, or is it just all the other factors
Speaker 3: that can hit a team in a three game skid.
Speaker 3: I also remember the Super Bowl season where we had
Speaker 3: a late buy and didn't lose a game after, which
Speaker 3: is true, true, that's a big story storyline of that season.
Speaker 3: I don't know what to make of it. I'm not
Speaker 3: sure there's anything you can't make of it.
Speaker 1: No, I mean, you try to find different things personally. Personally,
Speaker 1: I wish we would get into a a better rhythm.
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, we came off to buy.
Speaker 1: We were gonna have a one o'clock game, then we
Speaker 1: had a four o'clock game, then we had a Thursday game,
Speaker 1: and now the way it works, we're on the road
Speaker 1: for the month of November three out of four games,
Speaker 1: but they're consistently one o'clock games, and I think that's
Speaker 1: gonna help.
Speaker 3: Okay, I can't see how the buye which during which
Speaker 3: we got a couple of key players back from injuries.
Speaker 3: I suppose you could say we had momentum with our
Speaker 3: three and one start in the great Game in New Orleans,
Speaker 3: and then the bye killed that momentum. It's not anything
Speaker 3: that can possibly be quantified, so you can make a conjecture,
Speaker 3: but you can't know, so I guess that's possible. I
Speaker 3: tend to think the only real effect of buys, wherever
Speaker 3: they fall in the season, is what it means to
Speaker 3: the health of the team, right because I've been on
Speaker 3: teams that were great after buy and he just mentioned
Speaker 3: a big one right there. And I've been on teams
Speaker 3: good teams that struggled after a bye. So I've not
Speaker 3: seen and I've actual at various times done the stats
Speaker 3: on it, looked at all the buys coming in and
Speaker 3: going out and didn't There's never any rhyme or reason
Speaker 3: to it. Yeah, and I think I actually think Philip
Speaker 3: kind of feels that way too. The way he wrote
Speaker 3: that he's asking if we have any opinions on it,
Speaker 3: I don't think he thinks it really has a big
Speaker 3: effect on it.
Speaker 1: If the coaching staff had had a thought on it,
Speaker 1: what it was or is, it would be corrected. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So it's just it's it just it gives you an
Speaker 1: indicator of where things haven't gone well the last few
Speaker 1: weeks with the Bucks, because it was after the bye.
Speaker 1: When we went into the bye, people were pretty high.
Speaker 3: So all right, next one from Sam. From Sam and
Speaker 3: Nashville Dogs. As I'm sure you've already discussed, while the
Speaker 3: last couple of weeks have been far from ideal, the
Speaker 3: sky is not falling. I don't think we've actually made
Speaker 3: that point, but.
Speaker 1: That's a good one.
Speaker 3: I don't think even many of the optimistic fans had
Speaker 3: us better than four and three at this point in
Speaker 3: the season, and we are only one game back from
Speaker 3: that projected record. Our defense has been playing great, despite
Speaker 3: what many on the socials are saying, he says, and
Speaker 3: has kept us in every game. If the offense can
Speaker 3: just figure things out, we could still take control of
Speaker 3: this division. Since the Saints and Falcons don't seem to
Speaker 3: really want to take command of the division either. Well,
Speaker 3: anything can happen on any given Sunday. Looking at our
Speaker 3: remaining schedule, I don't think nine or ten wins is crazy.
Speaker 3: If the offense can start getting twenty to twenty four
Speaker 3: points a.
Speaker 1: Game, I agree.
Speaker 3: I know our offense has struggled, but it seems to
Speaker 3: me like we have had way more drives start inside
Speaker 3: our ten yard line than in years past. When you're
Speaker 3: that backed up, that's hard to operate no matter who
Speaker 3: you are. Do you know where we rank in the
Speaker 3: league in that regard? Here's hoping we get back to
Speaker 3: five hundred winter lose. Thanks for always doing a great podcast.
Speaker 3: Thanks Sam all right, I did not. I only looked
Speaker 3: at the I think when was this said? I only
Speaker 3: briefly looked at this. So if there's a way for
Speaker 3: me to know how we rank in the league in
Speaker 3: terms of drive started inside your ten, I didn't find it. However,
Speaker 3: I'd keep my own stats on that very thing year
Speaker 3: by year, and I I went to look at them, thinking, no,
Speaker 3: who is Sam here is wrong? It's just the perception
Speaker 3: because in this last game we started three straight drives
Speaker 3: inside our ten in the fourth quarter. But actually, he's right,
Speaker 3: He's right, it is up.
Speaker 1: It is up.
Speaker 3: We have in seven games so far this season we
Speaker 3: have started eleven drives inside our ten yard line ten
Speaker 3: yard line or ten to one. Yeah, eleven and six.
Speaker 3: That's eleven times in seven games. Last year we did
Speaker 3: that fourteen times in seventeen games, the year before sixteen
Speaker 3: times in seventeen games, and in twenty twenty eleven times
Speaker 3: in sixteen games. So to have eleven in just seven
Speaker 3: games is way so yes, that has happened, and the
Speaker 3: Punders are much better now. Well yeah, I mean that
Speaker 3: that Buffalo part was solid. He was like probably one
Speaker 3: of their five most important players.
Speaker 1: Now, if we decide we're not going to get a player,
Speaker 1: you could read his that long rant.
Speaker 3: That's okay, sorry, I'll do all the emails then, okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: I just feel we should we and we okay, but
Speaker 3: then we got that one and three more.
Speaker 1: So let me get to this. Okay.
Speaker 3: This is from Alexander and Brazil HOI salty ones. Hope
Speaker 3: this finds you both well. I have to admit that
Speaker 3: I was a little too salty last week, but only
Speaker 3: because I didn't see a way we could have dropped
Speaker 3: that game. You see, it was different against the Eagles
Speaker 3: lines and Bills. Oh so he's talking about the Atlanta
Speaker 3: where I thought we could win, but it was kind
Speaker 3: of an uphill battle. Speaking of it, I keep watching
Speaker 3: last game's replay, hoping Chris God will until turn his
Speaker 3: head a second earlier. You just watch it and hope
Speaker 3: it's different and we win that game after the extra point.
Speaker 1: Of course, I wonder if you fast forwarded if his
Speaker 1: head turns faster.
Speaker 3: But anyway, I believe that this team will find a
Speaker 3: way and we will win the next two games. It's
Speaker 3: about time our offense starts making plays. And what about
Speaker 3: our new long awaited Salty Dogs merchandising long keep waiting.
Speaker 3: I'm really curious about that. Since you did, thanks for
Speaker 3: reading Alexander from South PALAPRAZILA. All right, Mark Rice Mesa,
Speaker 3: this is our friend with Mesa. I wanted to I
Speaker 3: really wanted to read this one too, because it gives
Speaker 3: kudos to some of our coworkers, gentlemen. I wanted to
Speaker 3: take a moment and once again heap some praise on
Speaker 3: the Bucks media team for the latest installment of in
Speaker 3: the Current.
Speaker 1: Which you do the voiceover for why you're also featured.
Speaker 1: I'm featured in it these days.
Speaker 3: The segment about the origins of the Hey Hey Tampa
Speaker 3: Bay fight song was as cool as it was unexpected.
Speaker 1: I haven't watched this one yet. Very cool, it is
Speaker 1: very That was a nice touch. Exclamation point.
Speaker 3: And while we're distributing praise, how about a little love
Speaker 3: for the work that Dave Moore does on the weekly
Speaker 3: radio broadcast question mark exclamation point.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: I particularly appreciate that he offers critical insights like diagnosing
Speaker 3: why a play doesn't work, work, who likely missed an assignment,
Speaker 3: and even when the team gets away with uncalled penalties.
Speaker 3: You get the sense that if he were still in
Speaker 3: the locker room, he'd be one of the main voices
Speaker 3: fostering accountability among his teammates. Of course, we appreciated him
Speaker 3: celebrating the team's success more than anything, but it is
Speaker 3: refreshing to have a color commentator that calls the good,
Speaker 3: the bad, and the ugly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he approaches it like if he was your coach
Speaker 1: and was telling you what was wrong. And he always
Speaker 1: feels that a player can never get mad at him
Speaker 1: because that's what your coach is going to tell you so,
Speaker 1: I don't think the player are a good man him. No.
Speaker 3: Mike Mark says, thanks for doing what you guys do.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: Daniel doesn't say, Oh east Lake, Florida, Okay. HOI salty dogs.
Speaker 3: Hope you guys are doing well even though we have
Speaker 3: lost three in a row. Hopefully we can turn the
Speaker 3: corner of this upcoming Sunday with a win against the
Speaker 3: Texans as we saw last season win the South clinch
Speaker 3: A playoffs by yep. My question is who do you
Speaker 3: think should be the next Buck player in the Ring
Speaker 3: of Honor? In my opinion, it should be Martin Gramatica
Speaker 3: because of the clutch kicks he had during his time here,
Speaker 3: especially during the season we won our first Super Bowl. Also, Scott,
Speaker 3: I love when you do the mailbox and Jeff, you
Speaker 3: do a great job narrating inside the Current with the Bucks.
Speaker 3: I love the show, but not as much as I
Speaker 3: love this show. Lol. Well that's really nice.
Speaker 1: It's nice. It is.
Speaker 3: Take care Sincerely, Dan Damara from east Lake, Florida.
Speaker 1: Go Bucks. Thanks a local guy. We like it.
Speaker 3: How close is east like to hear?
Speaker 1: And I think it isn't it? East Lake just right
Speaker 1: right off of between. I know there's a golf course
Speaker 1: called East Lake Woodlands, isn't that?
Speaker 3: Is that the same thing?
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's East Lake, Florida. Interest in East Lake,
Speaker 1: Florida all one word, all one word, which is the
Speaker 1: case for Eastlake Woodlands? Okay, the golf course.
Speaker 3: Okay. I have a very strong opinion on this matter. Okay,
Speaker 3: And while I love hearing him, he prays on Martin Gramatica, go,
Speaker 3: go go. I think the next two guys in should
Speaker 3: be Hardy Nickerson and sameon Rice. Wow, that's my opinion.
Speaker 3: Now that Monty's in, I thought that was a big
Speaker 3: one we needed to get done. We got all the
Speaker 3: Hall of Famers in right. Yeah, it's obviously at some
Speaker 3: point Levonte and Mike Evans will be in, but they're
Speaker 3: not going in now. I think the guys I think
Speaker 3: the best players in team history who are not in
Speaker 3: the Ring of Honor are Hardy and Simeon. Yes, I agree,
Speaker 3: and I know that Simeon probably will never get into
Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame. No, it's a hard go and
Speaker 3: it would be even harder for him now that there
Speaker 3: are four players from that Super Bowl defense. But we
Speaker 3: know how important he was to that Super Bowl defense. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and that whole defense or in that whole era.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was the missing piece. Yeah. He came in
Speaker 1: and played for a minute at a minimum for like
Speaker 1: a million dollar contract, which and then for a one
Speaker 1: year deal. He did a one year deal, played so well, boom,
Speaker 1: he got a big deal.
Speaker 3: He was as critical to that defense as just about anybody.
Speaker 3: He was the missing piece, and Monte Kiffin knew it.
Speaker 3: I don't think I have to convince anybody about hardy
Speaker 3: knickers from no.
Speaker 1: No, well he he changed the culture. Yeah, totally, totally
Speaker 1: a great player, Yeah, and a good person and all
Speaker 1: of that. Yeah. By the way, East Lake is in
Speaker 1: Banala's county. It is.
Speaker 3: Okay, So but East Like Woodlands isn't? Uh East Lake is,
Speaker 3: I know, but the golf course east like Woodlands. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's in Palm Harbor and that's county.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Okay, do you have any difference of opinion on this?
Speaker 1: No? Okay, no, I you make valid points.
Speaker 3: I as much as Zimon Brady should go in, bring
Speaker 3: him on, I'm going to say yes. Honestly, well, I'm
Speaker 3: going to say yes.
Speaker 1: It's kind of hard to say no, since he came
Speaker 1: and you won a Super Bowl and you won two
Speaker 1: NFC Divisions South Division titles.
Speaker 3: So if it had been one season, yeah, I don't
Speaker 3: think so. But it's three seasons super Bowl Division titles. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and he was phenomenal correct, especially in the first two years. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I totally agree, but I would still go Hardy and
Speaker 3: Simeon and then maybe go to Tom.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: All right, one more and it's the rant. Okay, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna make sure I didn't miss anybody here I like.
Speaker 3: So it's all all good. That ends well here Michael
Speaker 3: from Connecticut, because we are going to reach you.
Speaker 1: We are.
Speaker 3: It's long, though, so strap in.
Speaker 1: Jeff, I'm a listening.
Speaker 3: Hey dogs, I woke up still covered in salt today,
Speaker 3: so I apologize in advance, but I need to vent.
Speaker 3: Yes this will be long, and yes I typed it
Speaker 3: on my phone while I'm waiting for new tires.
Speaker 1: Wow, Well, what else you gonna do when you're waiting
Speaker 1: for new tires?
Speaker 3: First off, I'd like to acknowledge the defense is the
Speaker 3: only thing keeping the Bucks in games right now. Even
Speaker 3: though they are allowing teams tons of yards, their red
Speaker 3: zone defense has been lights out. Clamping down when they
Speaker 3: need stops. However, however, with the way the offense has
Speaker 3: been playing, I can't help but wonder how long it
Speaker 3: will last. They're going to get worn out if they're
Speaker 3: only getting a few plays off. With all these three notes,
Speaker 3: I'd like to stop here for a moment and say,
Speaker 3: the time of possession in the last three games has
Speaker 3: not been lopsided.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 3: In fact, in the Atlanta game we had a slight edge,
Speaker 3: and in this last game it was only like thirty
Speaker 3: one to twenty nine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's it just felt that way.
Speaker 3: It may feel that way, but that's not happening, I
Speaker 3: don't think. And also, I'm gonna finish reading this rant.
Speaker 3: I don't agree with the overall tenor that the offense
Speaker 3: has been a disaster. The offense is having some problems,
Speaker 3: but it also is showing a lot of things other
Speaker 3: than running the ball of course, that it can do
Speaker 3: a lot of things that make me optimistic.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm with you on that, Okay, Okay.
Speaker 3: What's more frustrating is the offense is just Keptah. What's
Speaker 3: more frustrating is the offense is clearly capable of getting yards,
Speaker 3: but it can't stop shooting. Themselves in the foot. That's fair.
Speaker 3: That's fair. I shouldn't have I should have stopped. I
Speaker 3: should have have skept eating fair. Big completion to Evans
Speaker 3: called back because mouk tackle guy. I didn't see the replay,
Speaker 3: which that's me saying that, which I'll admit seemed more
Speaker 3: like a pancake than the hold, but still got a flack.
Speaker 3: I don't think this is the same one, but maybe
Speaker 3: it was. Maybe it was because I was complaining when
Speaker 3: I saw the REPLIM like that that guy tripped, yes,
Speaker 3: and then he fell him that was okay? Then I
Speaker 3: completely agree, yes, completely against. I was very angry, angrily
Speaker 3: talking to one of my coworkers next to me after
Speaker 3: I like, I understand the rest, going to call that
Speaker 3: because it looks like it dragged him down.
Speaker 1: But trip tripped and then he fell. Cody was tripping
Speaker 1: to engage with.
Speaker 3: Him, so he trips over him. All right, now, I'm
Speaker 3: mad big run by White called back by hold from getticky,
Speaker 3: and he in his next email, which we already read,
Speaker 3: he that was actually Palmer, who had a pretty rough night.
Speaker 3: I think got laundry on the field three times last
Speaker 3: night for holding, not holding, false start, which I what
Speaker 3: the hell is going on? We moved on from Donovan Smith,
Speaker 3: who was a great buck. But I'm pretty sure led
Speaker 3: the league and the holding calls last year, and it's
Speaker 3: like they're picking up the slack. No, No, this is
Speaker 3: too much, small sample size here, Mike I admitted I
Speaker 3: was wrong about the last one. But Luke's had a
Speaker 3: good season. If you look at his Pro Football Focus grades,
Speaker 3: he's he's really having a really good season. He had
Speaker 3: three fallse star penalties in that last game, and and
Speaker 3: he's had one otherwise the whole year. You can say
Speaker 3: he had a rough game, but I will not agree
Speaker 3: with you that he's having a bad season. Sorry, I
Speaker 3: gotta draw the line there, all right. I know that's
Speaker 3: the case in real life, but my god, these penalties
Speaker 3: are killing drives. That's true. That's true. If they can't
Speaker 3: help themselves, the d won't be able to save them
Speaker 3: too much longer.
Speaker 1: Agree.
Speaker 3: I hope they get it together because this season is
Speaker 3: going to get sideways if it hasn't already. Dropping three
Speaker 3: games in a row is not a good sign. Well no,
Speaker 3: it's not so much that it's not a good sign.
Speaker 3: It's it's not good No, sorry, No, questions today, just
Speaker 3: needed to shake off the salt. Hope you enjoyed the wedding.
Speaker 3: Wait a minute, he said, Oh, he's in it on Friday, Okay,
Speaker 3: and please don't stop bickering at each other. Nobody's if it's.
Speaker 1: Why we love the show. I totally appreciate the fact
Speaker 1: that he found something to do as he's getting tires change.
Speaker 3: After buy a new tire recent one.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I think it's the fact that he's he's
Speaker 1: getting tired change and he's all fired up about the
Speaker 1: bucks and he's working off his phone. How's the punctuation
Speaker 1: on it? Pretty good?
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's there's there's no exclamation point.
Speaker 1: It's it's in an email. Correct, it's not all caps. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't see a single exclamation point.
Speaker 1: Really. Uh.
Speaker 3: He did have three question marks after what the hell
Speaker 3: is going on?
Speaker 1: Wow? That means he's really really mad.
Speaker 3: That's like, what the hell is going on? Yeah, although
Speaker 3: I would probably have thrown an exclamation point in there
Speaker 3: with the question marks.
Speaker 1: Oh, just to be like, what the hell's going on?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but there's no all caps, all sudden none is
Speaker 3: It's pretty measured nice. I mean you could tell he
Speaker 3: says right off the top of salty. Yeah, we get that,
Speaker 3: and all of it was pretty much on point. I
Speaker 3: just don't agree with the Luke Ettikey's head not having
Speaker 3: a good season point.
Speaker 1: That's yeah, I I I totally agree. And he listen
Speaker 1: to to Bucks Total Access Monday's ten thirty. Uh, that's
Speaker 1: the one you would want to walk listen to. It's
Speaker 1: on it's our, it's our. Yeah, it's on the website
Speaker 1: right now, So that would be a good one. I
Speaker 1: think I think you'll get a better feel for who
Speaker 1: Luke is and what he's trying to accomplish. And it's
Speaker 1: you know, no one knows more than when a holding
Speaker 1: call and it's on you that you shouldn't do that.
Speaker 3: So I'm just saying the thing about the difference between
Speaker 3: a holding call and a false start call is sometimes
Speaker 3: holding calls maybe sometimes obviously you mess up and it's
Speaker 3: bad technique or someone Sometimes you know, like the one
Speaker 3: we just talked about with Cody Mauk, you really didn't
Speaker 3: do anything wrong, right, If you false start, you clearly
Speaker 3: did something wrong. Yeah, yeah, and it's something that's preventable.
Speaker 3: Those Cody couldn't prevent the fact that the dude tripped
Speaker 3: and the d tripped over them.
Speaker 1: But those are those are the things that need to
Speaker 1: be corrected. And if you're not a little bit salty
Speaker 1: after the last three weeks, then you're not being really
Speaker 1: true to your Yeah, and you know, so it all
Speaker 1: begins on Sunday.
Speaker 3: Well, we talk about fall starts. Let's keep in mind
Speaker 3: that we have played road games in New Orleans, Minnesota
Speaker 3: and Buffalo, three of probably the five loudest stadiums.
Speaker 1: In the and yeah, and so then you're gonna be
Speaker 1: in Houston, which is a dome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't know if it has a reputation
Speaker 3: for loudness.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Indianapolis, Yeah, they can get pretty they game pretty loud.
Speaker 1: And then we'll be in San Francisco. So we have
Speaker 1: not in that order.
Speaker 3: No Atlanta later, but they don't tend to get that loud.
Speaker 3: Now green Bay gets loud.
Speaker 1: For what they have, but they may not be allowed
Speaker 1: by that time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they traded away Douglas. I assume they're not going
Speaker 3: for it.
Speaker 1: All right, All right, that's a lot of questions. Okay,
Speaker 1: so no no player all right after this? Okay, I
Speaker 1: don't think that makes sense. All Right, Okay, we've plenty
Speaker 1: of time. We got cool tomorrow. It's all about you,
Speaker 1: my friend. Thank you since you did. Thanks for listening.