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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys safety Barry Church. Players. I was brought to
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Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jackets. Yes, sir, I love it, man, I
Speaker 1: love it. Oh man. You know I'm just trying to
Speaker 1: live out here, man, you know, just taking in all
Speaker 1: the scenes. Man. And it's a it's a beautiful Friday.
Speaker 1: It's a beautiful Friday. Look, it's a players lounge. So,
Speaker 1: like I always said, where else would you rather be
Speaker 1: than talking Cowboys football with me and Neui and our
Speaker 1: co host d Mac. I've seen a lot of the
Speaker 1: Twitter Twitter questions asking where's he had? Is he coming back?
Speaker 1: He'll be back mid May, so just hold on a
Speaker 1: little bit and he'll be back for us. But like always,
Speaker 1: let's get started on as players lounge. Yes, in the
Speaker 1: business barrier, what we call it, it's on assignment. So
Speaker 1: you know, there we go, and he's still a part
Speaker 1: of the team. He's on assignment right now. So he's
Speaker 1: gonna be back in May. But just right now, I
Speaker 1: just gotta let him be on assignment handling some things
Speaker 1: that he'll be back with us rolling along here. So
Speaker 1: the draft is less than a week away, and in
Speaker 1: some ways, if you think about a church, Thursday is
Speaker 1: kind of easy. The Cowboys know exactly kind of what
Speaker 1: will be there for them at ten Friday is when
Speaker 1: the real work starts, because you're talking about the second
Speaker 1: and third round picks of the draft, and the Cowboys
Speaker 1: have had a trying to hit on these second round picks.
Speaker 1: And so to me, that's gonna be really key for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys in this twenty twenty one draft. What do
Speaker 1: you do in rounds two? In rounds three? You know
Speaker 1: you cannot come up with another Tristan Hill, Kay, you
Speaker 1: just you just cannot. You need to have players you
Speaker 1: come in here immediately and get it to me day.
Speaker 1: These day two players need to become either walk in
Speaker 1: starters or major contributors to the football team without a doubt.
Speaker 1: You know, those two those rounds two through three, you
Speaker 1: know a lot of everybody's kind of you know, looking
Speaker 1: at that first round pick. It's you know, it's the
Speaker 1: glitz and the glamour, it's the flashy pick. It's some
Speaker 1: teams you know, future franchise maybe quarterback or future franchise
Speaker 1: pick at that number one spot, and that's where all
Speaker 1: the glitz and glamour goes. But the real hard work
Speaker 1: and the real adding consistent depth to your team, that's
Speaker 1: when those rounds two through four, I believe come in.
Speaker 1: That's when you come in, heredy, That's when you get
Speaker 1: your guys that they might not be day one starters,
Speaker 1: but you're saying to them, hey, look, future, the future
Speaker 1: could be yours. Just grind at it and get to yours.
Speaker 1: And this is where we need depth pieces because we
Speaker 1: know this team going into this season, you know, I
Speaker 1: hate to say it, but you know we're an injury
Speaker 1: kind of injury prone team. I mean, over these past
Speaker 1: couple of years, we have a lot of starters miss
Speaker 1: huge chunks of time, and it kind of, you know,
Speaker 1: dismantled what we have throughout the season. So for me,
Speaker 1: these rounds two through four they're extremely vital. They're great
Speaker 1: for adding depth pieces and then you might be able
Speaker 1: to find that diamond in the rough. I mean, we
Speaker 1: saw what we were able to find in Dak Prescott
Speaker 1: in the fourth round, the future franchise quarterback in the
Speaker 1: face of the Dallas Cowboys organization. So he was able
Speaker 1: to be found in the fourth round. Checho Woozie, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: Traymon Diggs last year was in the second round pick
Speaker 1: and no he had, you know, an up and down season.
Speaker 1: I think everybody can say they love his fight and
Speaker 1: they love the dog in him, and he could be
Speaker 1: a future cornerstone piece to this defense. So to me,
Speaker 1: the rounds two through three or two through four, they're
Speaker 1: just as important as the first round. They're just not
Speaker 1: as flashy. You look last year Diggs being taken in
Speaker 1: the second round. He was a player that we had
Speaker 1: talked about, we talked about the we talked, I should
Speaker 1: say about the Cowboys taking in the first so they
Speaker 1: get an absolute gift to get him in the second round.
Speaker 1: I thought he was the best corner that they had
Speaker 1: last year. And if they can get some help over
Speaker 1: there for that young man, I think he has a
Speaker 1: good future. But just looking here at the Cowboys, you
Speaker 1: go back to twenty nineteen, that's when they took Tristan
Speaker 1: Hill in round in round two. They also took Connor McGovern,
Speaker 1: the guard in round three. He finally got on the
Speaker 1: field last year. For him taking the twenty eighteen Connor
Speaker 1: Williams was your second round pick, Michael Gallup your third
Speaker 1: round pick. We've seen Gallup have an excellent career with
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, and Carter Williams has started a lot of games,
Speaker 1: but I don't know if he's going to get a
Speaker 1: second contract. When you start to think about what they
Speaker 1: do with his position, I think he's been He's been
Speaker 1: a decent pick. He hasn't been a Pro Bowl pick.
Speaker 1: And then I go back to twenty seventeen and you
Speaker 1: look at Cheeto A Woozier who was taking in the
Speaker 1: second round of the draft. Cheeto is now remember the
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals. They didn't give him a new deal, and
Speaker 1: you did see George Lewis their third round pick. George
Speaker 1: Lewis just signed an contract with the Cowboys, so they've
Speaker 1: got to improve in this area. So we're basically talking
Speaker 1: about here one, two, three, and then last year four drafts,
Speaker 1: Nevil Galliman was taken in third rounds the defensive line
Speaker 1: from Oklahoma. I think he is a player who can
Speaker 1: help the Cowboys. I see him as a rotational player
Speaker 1: or the defensive line. But they've got to start hitting
Speaker 1: here and hitting at a better clip. So while Thursday
Speaker 1: is gonna be exciting, it's gonna be the first round
Speaker 1: because that's by the way of case. Some folks don't understand.
Speaker 1: The first round is third. Oh, it's just the first round.
Speaker 1: On Friday, it's rounds two through three. And this is
Speaker 1: where the Cowboys, in my opinion, really need to hit
Speaker 1: on these picks. And this is where I trust a
Speaker 1: guy like Will McClay and hopefully they listen to Will
Speaker 1: McClay because Barry, the way things work around with the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: it's a lot they Jerry Jones takes a lot of
Speaker 1: different opinions. No, he consulted the t to a lot
Speaker 1: of people. So is dan quinn gonna make the pick
Speaker 1: if the player is a defensive player or is it
Speaker 1: the position coach. Is it going to be Mike McCarthy,
Speaker 1: Will it be Will McClay, will it be whoever Jerry
Speaker 1: or Stephen wants. I mean, that's gonna be an interesting
Speaker 1: thing when it comes down to where did they go?
Speaker 1: And as you in my opinion, we started looking at
Speaker 1: this rounds two or three. People got pet cats man,
Speaker 1: and they may decide, well, I want this, I want that,
Speaker 1: And that's gonna be real interesting. Had somebody asked me
Speaker 1: on Twitter today about Mike McCarthy and did they think
Speaker 1: that Mike McCarthy would be making a defensive pick, like, hey,
Speaker 1: which about j C. Horne's Like, hey, because he knew
Speaker 1: his dad? Because it came out on that video on
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com with the interview jac Horne when
Speaker 1: McCarthy was coaching down in New Orleans. Hey, do you
Speaker 1: think he'd go with jac Horn? Because he knew his dad?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, man, I don't think that Mike McCarthy
Speaker 1: is the guy I would lean on if from listening
Speaker 1: to Jerry's press conference, he spoke that Dan Quinn was
Speaker 1: going to have a major set. So if j. C.
Speaker 1: Horne is on the board, the Cowboys are making the
Speaker 1: choice I would be talking to one Will McClay and
Speaker 1: the scouts. Okay, I want to talk to the scouts
Speaker 1: because they've done a lot of the work on it.
Speaker 1: And then I would ask Dan when what would he
Speaker 1: want to do? McCarthy be the last guy that I'd
Speaker 1: sit around here and ask about the defensive player, I
Speaker 1: mean low and behold. Let's remember Mike McCarthy was the
Speaker 1: guy who was the offensive coordinator of San Francisco when
Speaker 1: they had the number one pick in the draft and said,
Speaker 1: let's take Alex Smith over Aaron Rod. You know, I
Speaker 1: wasn't that bad, but I don't understand what Aaron too.
Speaker 1: But stop long, guys go overall. Fame is gonna fall
Speaker 1: of fame. The guys, well, I he didn't have that
Speaker 1: bad of a career. Bulloo overall, I think, and I've
Speaker 1: said this for a long time. I've said this for
Speaker 1: a long time. This draft is gonna put immense pressure
Speaker 1: on Will because you know, we got the deal done
Speaker 1: with Dak Prescott, and I think everybody's happy about how
Speaker 1: the deal worked out. We got a little bit of
Speaker 1: extra caps face for that first year, but the next
Speaker 1: couple of years, I mean, he's gonna eat a lot
Speaker 1: of that cap space. And where we're gonna have to
Speaker 1: find defensively is we're gonna have to find these guys,
Speaker 1: like we said in a second, third, fourth round, to
Speaker 1: add depth to this defense. And that's where Will McClay
Speaker 1: and Dan quinn I think they have to come together
Speaker 1: and get put their brain powers and all the brain
Speaker 1: trust together to pick a team or pick a player
Speaker 1: that can help on help on day one, whether it
Speaker 1: be you know, in a Nickel role or in some
Speaker 1: type of you know, backup world or in the special teams.
Speaker 1: They got to find a player defensively to help this
Speaker 1: defense go along. So if so, when we're picking, like
Speaker 1: you said, I'm with you on that McCarthy thing, I
Speaker 1: don't think you know, we kind of we we look
Speaker 1: at his what he thinks we should pick, But I
Speaker 1: think I'm leaning towards Dan quinn and Will McClay one
Speaker 1: because Dan this is his defense. Hopefully they make it
Speaker 1: his defense, and the carpenter needs his tools. Like we've
Speaker 1: always said, when he was with Seattle, he had the
Speaker 1: Legion of Boom, he had cam, he had Earl Thomas,
Speaker 1: Cliff Avril, all those boys over there, and he built
Speaker 1: that legion of Boom defense and what he thought would
Speaker 1: be a successful defense and then ended up being that way.
Speaker 1: So if I'm him, if I'm Jerry, I'm going to
Speaker 1: dan Quinn, what do you need? What tools do you
Speaker 1: need to make this defense from one of the historically
Speaker 1: bad defense to at least middle of the road. Like
Speaker 1: I'm not even asking for a top ten defense. I'm
Speaker 1: not even asking for a legion of Boom style defense.
Speaker 1: But I need him to get tools on this defense
Speaker 1: to make it a middle of the road defense. Because
Speaker 1: with the power we have offensively, with all that star
Speaker 1: power Dac, those receivers, the running game, hopefully a healthy
Speaker 1: offensive line, I think we will able to put up
Speaker 1: points out there and we can have the ability to
Speaker 1: be a top five, maybe even top three offense out there.
Speaker 1: So our defense just has to be a middle of
Speaker 1: the road. I'm leaning on Dan Quinn to make the
Speaker 1: right plays here with the assistance of Will McClay, and
Speaker 1: he has. Will McClay has hit on draft picks these
Speaker 1: past couple of years. But this contract that we gave
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott is putting a lot of pressure on Will
Speaker 1: and I'm sure he'll be able to come through for us. Look,
Speaker 1: I think there's always pressure on anybody in scouting in
Speaker 1: the National Football League because you're always trying to find
Speaker 1: ways to improve your football team. My big question is
Speaker 1: when it comes down to these picks, who do who
Speaker 1: are you going to listen to? We saw where Rod
Speaker 1: Marinelli had major juice. I mean Rod Marinelli wanted Triston Hill. Okay,
Speaker 1: he said I want this guy. And Chris Rashard is
Speaker 1: in the room, and so many people like Dave Hellman
Speaker 1: over Dallas Cowboys dot Com and that the guy's on
Speaker 1: the draft show. We're like, hey, man, they need to
Speaker 1: go take one thorn Hill to safety, and they didn't
Speaker 1: do it. One thorn Hill ends up going to the
Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs, is part of a Super Bowl team
Speaker 1: and he's been a starter there. And Triston Hill is
Speaker 1: a guy coming off at ACL who has not lived
Speaker 1: up to the billing. One of the issues that I
Speaker 1: had with the whole Triston Hill thing was Rob Marionelli
Speaker 1: was saying, hey, look, I'm gonna make a contract with
Speaker 1: this guy. Basically a contract with this guy that this
Speaker 1: guy's gonna go out here and play hard. Triston Hills
Speaker 1: last year ucf he was benched. The new coaching staff
Speaker 1: had issues with him, and he had issues with them.
Speaker 1: And so this is a guy who was not starting
Speaker 1: the year before under Scott Frost, he was starting. So
Speaker 1: the Cowboys basically didn't listen to the current coaching staff
Speaker 1: that was there. They went back to the other coaching
Speaker 1: staff who told him what they wanted to hear. And
Speaker 1: what at Tristan Hill become he was a problem. And
Speaker 1: that's where you just say, man, I don't know. I'll
Speaker 1: give Rob Marinelli credit on this when he's the one
Speaker 1: who want to Lake Vanderesh. I thought they should take
Speaker 1: in the linebacker around Alabama, but they took lake Vanderesh.
Speaker 1: He made the Pro Bowl. Rob Marinelli was also the
Speaker 1: guy who said I want Taco Charlton. T J. Watt
Speaker 1: was a better football player at the Big Ten, and
Speaker 1: we've seen t J. Watters become an All Pro football player.
Speaker 1: But they were listening to Rod Marinelli. So that's my
Speaker 1: thing is just do you want to listen to your coaches,
Speaker 1: you want to listen to the scout, listen to the
Speaker 1: people who do this all the time. That's gonna be
Speaker 1: an interesting question. Let me ask you a question, do
Speaker 1: you think it comes down to who has more juice
Speaker 1: in the room. Like Marionelli came in, he has this
Speaker 1: huge pedigree of being one of the best defensive minds
Speaker 1: in football. He's been in a part of the NFL
Speaker 1: for twenty some years. He's a part of the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: And do you think it was he Look, this guy
Speaker 1: has all the experience, he should know who to pick.
Speaker 1: And in a situation we got now, do you think
Speaker 1: they would lean towards dan Quinn in that situation like
Speaker 1: this is a new guy coming in. He needs to
Speaker 1: get his defense in the right situation. He's to get
Speaker 1: all the tools he can get to get them most
Speaker 1: out of this defense. Do you think they lean on
Speaker 1: him like they did Marinelli? Or do you think, Hey,
Speaker 1: you know, McCarthy got the juice right now, he's the
Speaker 1: head coach. He's gonna pick who he wants to pick.
Speaker 1: I'm hoping that they lean towards the defensive side with
Speaker 1: the with um dan Quinn when they go to pick
Speaker 1: like they did with Marinelli. But I just want to know,
Speaker 1: do you think it's who has more juice in the room,
Speaker 1: Because on the offensive side of the on the offensive
Speaker 1: side of the coordination or whatever it is. I think
Speaker 1: it was Marinelli and who was our OC was it?
Speaker 1: It was? It was Lenahan at the time, I believe,
Speaker 1: and I just think, you know, marion Nelli had a
Speaker 1: little bit more juice. Do you think that has anything
Speaker 1: to do with who they lean on as far as picking,
Speaker 1: I've always heard it's who talked to Jerry last That's
Speaker 1: the thing I've heard through the years that was kind
Speaker 1: of be the way it went. But here's from talking
Speaker 1: to many people through covering football for so many years.
Speaker 1: Here this has just been my take. Coaches are going
Speaker 1: to look at what fits for me now, because coaches
Speaker 1: know they're like a milk carton many expiration day. You
Speaker 1: know they're here to win now. If you're Mike McCarthy,
Speaker 1: if you're Dan Quinn, you need to win now. If
Speaker 1: you're Dan Quinn, if you can turn this Cowboys defense
Speaker 1: around real quick, you know what happens for you next year.
Speaker 1: You might be back hiring sys right this So dan
Speaker 1: Quinn is going to try to find somebody that he
Speaker 1: wants right now. If I'm Will McClay, I'm not looking
Speaker 1: here at that now. I'm looking here at the next
Speaker 1: two to three years, two to three to four years,
Speaker 1: so they look at things differently. I go back to
Speaker 1: when Wade Phillips was the head coach and on the
Speaker 1: board I was told was an excellent linebacker Navarro Bowman. Well,
Speaker 1: they because they passed on him because Wade had brought
Speaker 1: in Keith Brooking, a player he had known, and so
Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, I got Brooking. So we had Brady
Speaker 1: James and Keith Brooking. Those are the linebackers here, and
Speaker 1: the Cowboys made a mistake. They should have taken Navarro Bowman,
Speaker 1: and Bowman would have been an excellent choice to replace
Speaker 1: Keith Brooking because Keith Brooking's career here was it was
Speaker 1: on the down slide. He wasn't what he was with
Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons. But that goes back to when you
Speaker 1: start to have your coaches pick players. People don't ever
Speaker 1: talk about how Bill Parcels wanted Bobby Carpenter. That's the
Speaker 1: guy he wanted. Bobby Carpenter was terrible, he was he
Speaker 1: was never a good football player here, and that was
Speaker 1: a guy that Bill wanted. I remember another player. I
Speaker 1: gotta go back here and check my notes here. I
Speaker 1: want to say it was Al Johnson that they allowed
Speaker 1: Bill Parcels to take because they took Terence Newman one year,
Speaker 1: and so Bill didn't want Terence Newman the corner and
Speaker 1: so they basically said, all right, you get to go
Speaker 1: ahead and pick the pick the second round pickings. So
Speaker 1: he took Al Johnson, a center out of Wisconsin. Well,
Speaker 1: Al ended up getting hurt his rookie year, and Andre
Speaker 1: Girard went from guard to center, and Andrea had an
Speaker 1: excellent career as a center for the Dallas Cowboys. Andrea
Speaker 1: also played guard and center at Colorado on their Big
Speaker 1: Twelve championship team. So here's a guy that position flex
Speaker 1: and center was really his best position. So Al Johnson
Speaker 1: became a guy who really was they did. I think
Speaker 1: they moved into Arizona. But he didn't do anything here.
Speaker 1: But this is what happens when you allow your coaches
Speaker 1: to pick players, they pick the guys that they want
Speaker 1: right here. Now, scouts usually tend to look towards the
Speaker 1: future and building a football team. I mean, let's let's
Speaker 1: look who Dan quinn brought in already this year. He
Speaker 1: brought in you know, Demante Kyz and Keyan O'Neill who
Speaker 1: played for him in the past in Atlanta. And look,
Speaker 1: I mean I think that Keyan O'Neill was a solid
Speaker 1: I think it was a solid free agent get just
Speaker 1: if they leave him in that hybrid linebacker rule, I
Speaker 1: think it's a solid free agent fit. But let's not
Speaker 1: you know, mistake it for you know, Cam Chancellor or
Speaker 1: anything like that. And if we bring in Kaz who's
Speaker 1: coming off a tourn Achilles, and trust me, I've been
Speaker 1: through it. When you go through Achilles, it's that year
Speaker 1: one year one is the toughest to come back from.
Speaker 1: So it's tough to me who you lean on in
Speaker 1: these situations because those two, those two free agent you
Speaker 1: know gets that we got right there. You know, I
Speaker 1: don't know if they're the best situation for us. We
Speaker 1: had Malie Cooker who's also coming off and Achilles as well,
Speaker 1: but when we had other safety options out there, but
Speaker 1: he decided to go with guys he knew like you
Speaker 1: had just mentioned. So we'll see, we'll see. I mean,
Speaker 1: the jury is still out to me on dan Quinn,
Speaker 1: but hopefully he can come through and pick us up
Speaker 1: some great defensive assistance out there. Now, I raised my hand.
Speaker 1: I was beating the drum saying bringing some players and
Speaker 1: some coaches that dan Quinn knows, people that understand the system,
Speaker 1: guys who can help teach the system. So I don't
Speaker 1: have a problem with that. And then you look at
Speaker 1: the deals that these guys got, I mean, they're not
Speaker 1: these multi year contracts gonna tie to cows That's true.
Speaker 1: So the team right, right, So so I don't have
Speaker 1: an issue with that. And there is something to be
Speaker 1: said for getting the right type of players that he wants.
Speaker 1: I mean, so the Cowboys scouts did their job. They
Speaker 1: went to dan Quinn and said, what kind of guys
Speaker 1: do you want? You know, what am I looking for
Speaker 1: in a corner? What am I looking for a d tackle?
Speaker 1: What am I looking for at an outside linebacker? So
Speaker 1: hopefully they've got the blueprint from him on what he
Speaker 1: wants for the defense, and you try to marry it together.
Speaker 1: But you better believe there's gonna be times when the
Speaker 1: coach says I want this guy and a scout says,
Speaker 1: I believe that this guy's better. So how do you
Speaker 1: do how do you settle the how do you settle
Speaker 1: the ties? And recently we've seen Jerry Jones has gone
Speaker 1: to his coordinators and position coaches to make the call
Speaker 1: on these decisions. And my just thing was, I thought
Speaker 1: Rod Marinelli. I thought Rod Marinelli liked try hard guys
Speaker 1: to a detriment. When I think about Rod Marinelli, how
Speaker 1: did Rod Marinelli get famous or how did he get
Speaker 1: known to most people? It was because of the work
Speaker 1: that they did in Tampa. Beck Well, when Rob Marionelli
Speaker 1: was here, the Cowboys never used the first round pick
Speaker 1: on a defensive blind me. That wasn't what they did
Speaker 1: when he was the coordinator because he basically shot him
Speaker 1: away from that. But in Tampa he had Warren Sapp
Speaker 1: first round pick, Yeah, Booker McFarland first round pick, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Simeon Rice first round pick. If you want to run
Speaker 1: a simple books right, So, if you run a simple scheme,
Speaker 1: it's a lot easier when you have first round picks
Speaker 1: and great players doing it. You can only have so
Speaker 1: many try hard guys. I go back to that game
Speaker 1: at the La Colle scene when they played the Rams
Speaker 1: and the Rams just ran through room. Uh you know,
Speaker 1: just two guys right up for one hundred yards in
Speaker 1: that game and up the middle they were just too small.
Speaker 1: And Rod Marinelli, in my opinions where the cowboys, somebody
Speaker 1: should have stepped in and say, hey, man, look we
Speaker 1: need to get us some bigger guys. This is where
Speaker 1: I was happy to hear Mike McCarthy at this press
Speaker 1: conference a couple of weeks back say hey, look, you
Speaker 1: can't have enough guys that are that are six six
Speaker 1: two seventy five. So he wants some beef up front.
Speaker 1: Mike Nolan wanted some beef up front too. They just
Speaker 1: got the wrong beef. But so so that's that's that great.
Speaker 1: That's the great challenge of managing a draft room and
Speaker 1: and seeing how you make that all work. So everybody's
Speaker 1: got away. They want to do business. I wish we
Speaker 1: could talk to dan Quinn, man, I really do to
Speaker 1: fare out a little bit more about what do you want?
Speaker 1: That's what we need. That's the question. That's the million
Speaker 1: dollar question right there. We need to know what is
Speaker 1: in dan Quinn's mind. What is he thinking as far
Speaker 1: as the identity for this defense? Is it going to
Speaker 1: be more how they Seattle style? Where it wasn't you know,
Speaker 1: traveling corners. It wasn't in a lot of lockdown, man,
Speaker 1: It was a lot of zone keeping your eyes on
Speaker 1: the quarterback. They had a great front four that can
Speaker 1: get after the quarterback, and I'm not sure we have
Speaker 1: that here in Dallas. So I don't I don't know
Speaker 1: what the identity is. But if we did, we can
Speaker 1: have a better solution on what angle this team is
Speaker 1: going for because and that's what we'll talk about it
Speaker 1: a little bit later. But that's why I love certain
Speaker 1: at that pick, because he's multifaceted at the corner. He
Speaker 1: could be that man, he could be that that zone guy.
Speaker 1: He can fit any scheme. But that's why I love him.
Speaker 1: But that's the million dollar question, Nui. What is the
Speaker 1: identity of this defense gonna be? Because right now, I
Speaker 1: don't know if he has his tools to bring that
Speaker 1: simple style defense that made it so popular in Seattle
Speaker 1: down here. I don't know if he has the tools
Speaker 1: and his defense has the tools to withstand. I mean,
Speaker 1: I just don't know, and I'm not sure about that.
Speaker 1: But we do know one thing's for sure. If we
Speaker 1: go out there with that same multiple scheme type of
Speaker 1: defense that Mike Nolan tried to put out there, we're
Speaker 1: gonna get run out of the stadium each and every game.
Speaker 1: So please don't go out there and have guys standing
Speaker 1: up this way, he blitzed in that way. Just make
Speaker 1: it to where these gays can get the most production
Speaker 1: out of their defense, and hopefully dan Quink can bring that.
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a break here on the Players Lounge,
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Speaker 1: what name if this name is called on draft day,
Speaker 1: what's the name of the player that will make you
Speaker 1: scream in frustration at number ten. I'll give you my name, Church.
Speaker 1: I want you to give me your name of the
Speaker 1: player that will make you scream if the Cowboys take
Speaker 1: him at the tenth overall pick in Thursday's traft. We'll
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Speaker 1: All right. Thursday night, Cowboys are picking ten. If they
Speaker 1: called this one player, I will scream Michael Parsons linebacker
Speaker 1: penns Day, Yeah, I don't you don't like that? Folly
Speaker 1: three linebacker. You don't like that he's running fully three nine,
Speaker 1: he got the speed sideline, the sideline. You ain't liking that. No, No,
Speaker 1: I am not. I am not, not not at ten,
Speaker 1: not at ten. Um, go ahead and if you possibly okay,
Speaker 1: and I'm not for sure, but you possibly can go
Speaker 1: ahead and trade down and get that guy fifteen. And
Speaker 1: so if you could trade, if you can get somebody
Speaker 1: to come to ten for a quarterback and give you
Speaker 1: a number one picked down the road, and if you
Speaker 1: want to take Parsons later on, fine, But if you
Speaker 1: sit there at ten and take Michael Parsons, I'd like
Speaker 1: Now we have seen the tenth pick be in play
Speaker 1: when it comes to the draft. The Kansas City Chiefs
Speaker 1: went for twenty seven to ten to take Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 1: had to give up a number one. We saw a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago where the Cardinals jumped up a
Speaker 1: few spots to go to ten to take Josh Rosen.
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I personally don't feel like quarterbacks
Speaker 1: are gonna go one two three four like some people
Speaker 1: are saying. I do believe they'll go one, two three.
Speaker 1: So I think that you could see a quarterback in
Speaker 1: play at ten. Obviously, it depends on what Denver does
Speaker 1: at nine and maybe what Carolina does at eight. But
Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys at ten could could trade back
Speaker 1: and if let's say Denver or Detroit or Carolina takes
Speaker 1: Patrick's or ten, if they takes ten, then yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: there's a question you gotta you gotta ask yourself. But
Speaker 1: I just don't see Michael Parsons at ten. I think
Speaker 1: that's a play that you can get later on down
Speaker 1: the road in this draft. And if you you pick
Speaker 1: up a one and still get that player, I would
Speaker 1: I could live with that, But just ten ten Church,
Speaker 1: I don't know about ten. Yeah, he right, it's a
Speaker 1: little it's a little high for Parsons. I mean, he is,
Speaker 1: you know, a playmaking linebacker out there, Um, you know
Speaker 1: Silad and sign a lit of type guy he can
Speaker 1: cover well. But if we get that guy, then you know,
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do with Jalen? You got Kean O'Neill,
Speaker 1: who's basically the same type of player, hybrid linebacker type deal.
Speaker 1: So I just don't know what you would do with
Speaker 1: Parsons there at ten. So I can agree with that
Speaker 1: for me, the player that that I think would make
Speaker 1: me scream if we ended up picking him. And let
Speaker 1: me preface this by saying this, I don't think he
Speaker 1: would get to this to ten. I think he'll be
Speaker 1: gone before then because I think the Bengals will end
Speaker 1: up snagging them up because you know, they need some
Speaker 1: protection for Joe Burrow out there because he got his
Speaker 1: butt kicked last year. So I don't think this player
Speaker 1: will slide that far. But if he does. If he
Speaker 1: does and we end up picking this player up, I
Speaker 1: would scream personally, uh, and the player, I'm gonna say,
Speaker 1: it's if I don't. If I don't his name, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: Panay Sul, Did I say that? Right? All right? So
Speaker 1: I would screened if we picked this player. And I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you why, because I'm one of the guys,
Speaker 1: one of the few guys that believe Tyrn Smith is
Speaker 1: gonna come back and he's gonna go back into that
Speaker 1: old mode. I think he's gonna come back and be
Speaker 1: one of the top tackles in the game, even though
Speaker 1: he's dealt with a lot of injuries in the past,
Speaker 1: but he missed a lot of games last year. With
Speaker 1: these injuries, He's got time to rest up. I think
Speaker 1: he's on a mission to come back and kind of
Speaker 1: reclaim his throne as being one of the top tackles
Speaker 1: in the game. And then you have Lyell Collins over
Speaker 1: there on the right side. Now, he was injured as well.
Speaker 1: He was injured as well, he had surgery in the
Speaker 1: off season, But I believe he'll be able to come
Speaker 1: back and help this this offensive line get back to
Speaker 1: where they were now. If it's saying that, if saying
Speaker 1: that you know these two guys are gonna be healthy,
Speaker 1: you know, what do you do with sul at that point?
Speaker 1: You know you just wasted the first round draft pick
Speaker 1: on the guy that's gonna sit behind and maybe you
Speaker 1: know in the future he'll be that guy. But I'm
Speaker 1: talking about right now because I believe this whole organization.
Speaker 1: I believe Jerry wants to win right now. So for me,
Speaker 1: I think if we went that round and had that guy,
Speaker 1: you know, a kind of a swing tackle back up
Speaker 1: for a while until tiring and them got up out
Speaker 1: of there, I think that's wasting the pick and I
Speaker 1: think it would scream. I think I would scream just
Speaker 1: knowing that we could have had somebody, especially if certain
Speaker 1: and all those corners are available at ten, I would
Speaker 1: scream knowing we had a blue chip an opportunity to
Speaker 1: get a blue chip prospect at that corner position to
Speaker 1: help out this young secondary and help out this defense overall,
Speaker 1: and instead we went with a tackle who will probably
Speaker 1: sit behind you know, Tyren Smith and Laole Collins for
Speaker 1: the first year or two. So for me, I would
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna say even any offensive pick in
Speaker 1: the first round would make me scream. And I'm a
Speaker 1: little biased because you know, I'm a defensive guy and
Speaker 1: I believe defenses win championships, so I'm a little bias
Speaker 1: in that regard. But overall, if we if we go
Speaker 1: any offensive route in the first round, I think I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and scream. And who knows, I might
Speaker 1: not even watch the rest of the draft. We'll see.
Speaker 1: Hold on, I'm gonna fight. I'm gonna fight you on
Speaker 1: this one. Okay, I'm gonna fight you on the first off.
Speaker 1: I've said it before on social media. I'll say it again. Pinay,
Speaker 1: Soul is not going to get past five, Okay, Atlantic
Speaker 1: will tim Yeah, yeah, this is hypothetically. I don't believe
Speaker 1: he'll get past So if if Piney Soul is it ten,
Speaker 1: that means that he had that Laramie tubsul gas mask,
Speaker 1: smoking weed and it's something bad happened. If he's sitting
Speaker 1: here at ten for the Canadas, but they off the weed.
Speaker 1: But but but but And talking to a couple of
Speaker 1: scouting buddies of mine, I said, give me a comp
Speaker 1: for Pinay Soul. Could I compare him to Jonathan oct
Speaker 1: And one of the people I trust said, that's pretty good.
Speaker 1: John Octon him was drafted by the Baltimore Ravens top
Speaker 1: five picks, started at guard because they had big Zeus
Speaker 1: Brown on the left tackle, and then they ended up
Speaker 1: they ended up moving Jonathan to left tackle. He had
Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame career, was a building block on
Speaker 1: one of their Super Bull teams, pay Seul. If you
Speaker 1: talk to people, they believe he's that type of talent,
Speaker 1: that he's a really blue chip player and a better
Speaker 1: player coming out of the pack twelve than Tyron Smith was.
Speaker 1: And Tyron Smith is an all decade player who's building
Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame resume himself. That is the kind
Speaker 1: of player that you could be getting at Penay Soul,
Speaker 1: which is why I say he will not be there
Speaker 1: at tent Okay. But so so if you told me
Speaker 1: you ended up having Penay's Seul start at guard and
Speaker 1: the healthy Tyrn Smith is at tackle, okay, I'll take that, yeah,
Speaker 1: because then you might have Ezekiel Ellit with the ability
Speaker 1: to lead the league of rushing one more time. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's the kind of player he is. But I go
Speaker 1: back to what I said before, angle beat him. Angle
Speaker 1: beat it because Atlanta and Cincinnati could both use that play.
Speaker 1: So I don't see that player there at all. And
Speaker 1: then when you talked about Kyle Pitts, um the way
Speaker 1: people have pumped up his tape, the way people have
Speaker 1: talked about it, even the video conference. If you haven't
Speaker 1: looked on Dallas Cowboys dot com, they've got a lot
Speaker 1: of the great interviews with the players like pats Or
Speaker 1: Tan and J. C. Horne, Trayvon Morig and Kyle Pitts,
Speaker 1: guys that they've interviewed. Here there's another player who's so
Speaker 1: good at what he does and is a true blue
Speaker 1: chit prospect. What arguably, you know you talk about stacking
Speaker 1: your board. One of the top five talents in the game.
Speaker 1: They're not gonna get to ten. That they're just not
Speaker 1: you know, they're not. You don't think there's a chance, Kyle,
Speaker 1: So so who do you? Because I think, all right,
Speaker 1: so maybe Atlanta, maybe Atlanta my grabbing, you know, maybe Carolina.
Speaker 1: Other than that, Okay, like you got Miami there, But
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know, man, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: can see a scenario in which he could slide down there. Okay,
Speaker 1: So let's say Atlanta. All right, Let's say Atlanta says
Speaker 1: we're gonna go Kyle Pitts and try and do the
Speaker 1: whole Tony Gonzalez Matt Ryan deal. So Pitts is at
Speaker 1: four souls at five, these guys never get to ten.
Speaker 1: Say yeah for me, Suel definitely, I don't think he.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna make it at all. There's
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't. I think there's no way in
Speaker 1: hell he would drop down to ten. I was just
Speaker 1: doing it hypothetaly. But Pitts, I think there's a there's
Speaker 1: an opportunity. I think there's an opportunity that he would
Speaker 1: slide there. And I would scream if we ended up
Speaker 1: taking him. Okay, I'll give you the drop point where
Speaker 1: I think the cutoff point for Pitts, in my opinion
Speaker 1: is six to Miami. And I go back to what
Speaker 1: we said on a previous show. Who's the head coach there,
Speaker 1: Brian Flores. Brian Flores, former linebacker for former defensive coordinator
Speaker 1: and a linebacker coach in New England. As the linebacker coach,
Speaker 1: what did he line up against during his tenure there?
Speaker 1: Ronk Gronk, Aaron Hernandez. This guy saw what difference making
Speaker 1: tight ends can do. So if you're talking about helping
Speaker 1: to a tug of byloa, you can. And I know
Speaker 1: they got Mike Jesseki there, but Mike Jesseeski and Kyle Pitts,
Speaker 1: and you could conceivably put those two guys out there
Speaker 1: if you wanted to. But I see that as the
Speaker 1: floor where Miami snatches that guy up right there, and
Speaker 1: it helps too. And even if two is that their
Speaker 1: long term quarterback, it'll help the next quarterback. So to me,
Speaker 1: when you talk about four or five, six, I've got
Speaker 1: Pits and Sewell being the I got these guys going
Speaker 1: between four or five and six. That's where I see
Speaker 1: him at. So I never see these guys getting to
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys attent. And when Jerry talks about sugar plums, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's dreaming because they're not. They're too talented not to
Speaker 1: be there. We say that. But okay, let me push
Speaker 1: back a little bit on the Miami situation. You don't
Speaker 1: think they You don't think they would say, all right,
Speaker 1: let me look at DeVante Smith, former teammate of two
Speaker 1: of they did great numbers together down in Alabama. This
Speaker 1: guy's coming in. They have an opportunity to boost their
Speaker 1: offense with another playmaking receiver out there, to go to
Speaker 1: go opposite a Parker you got, you already got Jaseki
Speaker 1: there at the tight end position. You don't think they
Speaker 1: want to boost their wide receiver corps rather than take
Speaker 1: a Kyle Pitts in that spot, and that kind of
Speaker 1: that can push them further down the line. If they
Speaker 1: don't take him there, that pushes them further down the line.
Speaker 1: And I we're talking seven picks, seven, eight and nine,
Speaker 1: and then yeah, I don't know, I don't know, he
Speaker 1: might he might have an opportunity to slide down there. Louis,
Speaker 1: I go back to something you and I spoke about
Speaker 1: earlier on the Players Lounge, and we started talking about
Speaker 1: just our top four you know, wide receivers that we like,
Speaker 1: you know, the top four guys in the game. And
Speaker 1: one of them that we mentioned was DeVante DeVante Adams
Speaker 1: a Green Band second round pick. We mentioned DeAndre Hawkins
Speaker 1: number one pick, we mentioned Julio Jones number one pick,
Speaker 1: and then we mentioned Stepan Dicks a second round pick.
Speaker 1: You can go get a second round guy who could
Speaker 1: have the ability to be a Pro Bowl, All Pro receiver. Mean,
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas is the Saints. Another one from what people
Speaker 1: who scout this game are saying is that Kyle Pitts
Speaker 1: is that guy in terms of his position. That you
Speaker 1: can't find another Kyle Pitts in round two, as you
Speaker 1: you're gonna find a Travis Kelsey like in round three,
Speaker 1: like a Kyle Pitts is but they're saying he's so
Speaker 1: much better than Travis Kelsey. So I just think if
Speaker 1: I'm Miami, i would take Kyle Pitts and then I'll
Speaker 1: just try to find another wide receiver in another round.
Speaker 1: And maybe this receiver is deemed on height, weight, whatever,
Speaker 1: but I'll go ahead and take what seems to be
Speaker 1: the most polished prospect at this position to come into
Speaker 1: the National Football League in a minute. So that's what
Speaker 1: I would do. And Mike Jisecki, he's a nice player,
Speaker 1: but I'm sorry, Mike Jisecki's not on some Pro Bowl teams.
Speaker 1: He's not all pro. He's not Travis Kelsey. You know,
Speaker 1: you know, let's let's not put him. You know, let's
Speaker 1: not you know, he's a nice player for what they do.
Speaker 1: But dudes ain't drawing up game plan saying stop Mike Jasecki.
Speaker 1: You know it might just say help them. You know,
Speaker 1: he could help. You know, he could be the Aaron Hernandez,
Speaker 1: but Kyle Pitts would be the GROUNK. So um, I
Speaker 1: just look at that, is that this is the way
Speaker 1: you can help supplement your football team. What they did
Speaker 1: in Tampa Bay. He've got camera break, but they also
Speaker 1: had O Jay Howard, so they had two good tight
Speaker 1: ends there. So I would I just don't think that
Speaker 1: it has to be, Hey, we got Mike Jazeki, so
Speaker 1: we can't look at Kyle Pitts. I don't look at
Speaker 1: him that way. I think he's a good football player,
Speaker 1: but he's definitely not the kind of guy that I
Speaker 1: would say no to if I'm in a position like Miami,
Speaker 1: and I want to add pieces to help the quarterback.
Speaker 1: I can see that because you know, overall, I don't
Speaker 1: look at him as basically just a tight end. You know,
Speaker 1: I look at Kyle Pitts as an offensive weapon. You know, yes,
Speaker 1: he lined up he had you know, he lined up
Speaker 1: as an in line tight end. He lines up as
Speaker 1: a big slot. He lines up on the outside. I've
Speaker 1: seen him go against jac Horne when Alabama played South
Speaker 1: Carolina and he was going he was battling him at
Speaker 1: the outside receiver. So to me, I looked at Kyle
Speaker 1: Pitts as an offensive weapon. And if what everybody's out
Speaker 1: there saying is correct, he can be this generational guy.
Speaker 1: He has a longer wingspan and a bigger catch radius
Speaker 1: than Megatron himself. Then you know, I can't really see.
Speaker 1: And I wouldn't fault Miami for passing up on a
Speaker 1: guy like that, because if he's that great, it has
Speaker 1: that much rational talent, and just he can he can
Speaker 1: change a franchise like that, then he wouldn't fall down,
Speaker 1: he wouldn't fall at all. And maybe even Atlanta scoops
Speaker 1: him up. But we shall see, we shall see. So
Speaker 1: so so bring me this this no soon as than
Speaker 1: you said. It brought me back to this point as
Speaker 1: championship can't. When you were playing with Jacksonville, you went
Speaker 1: against Grunt and we talked about, you know, a guy
Speaker 1: in the red zone and what Grunt was able to
Speaker 1: do and then grown six foot seven, Kyle Pits six
Speaker 1: foot six, So what is it like guarding someone that
Speaker 1: big that you know is a red zone weapon. Well,
Speaker 1: see Grant. See Grant was a different animal because he
Speaker 1: never and I think he would be easier to guard,
Speaker 1: at least until the point of you know, the point
Speaker 1: of attack when you have to jump up with the ball,
Speaker 1: because he didn't have a lot of moves off the line.
Speaker 1: He didn't have that fast twitch muscle. He wasn't giving
Speaker 1: you a lot of shakes. He was basically just using
Speaker 1: his brute force. So as soon as he got off
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, if you got your hands on him,
Speaker 1: you could pretty much ride him out the way. Now,
Speaker 1: when it got to the when the balls in the air,
Speaker 1: that's when it became a whole totally different because this
Speaker 1: guy can out jump anybody, and he just used his
Speaker 1: body and strength in ways that I've never seen anybody before.
Speaker 1: So I think he'd be a little bit easier to
Speaker 1: guard out in the field than a Kyle Pitts because
Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts from the tape I've seen, I mean, this
Speaker 1: guy has so much wiggle you would you would think
Speaker 1: he was a slot receiver. He got wiggled like Travis Kelsey,
Speaker 1: but he's faster, has a bigger catch radius. It's it's
Speaker 1: kind of a it's like you said, he's an offensive weapon.
Speaker 1: So I think in the field of play, he'd be
Speaker 1: harder to guard than a Gronkowski. But when it comes
Speaker 1: down to that red zone, Gronkowski just used his body
Speaker 1: so much and he would just go over top of
Speaker 1: anybody's safety, linebackers, corners if you weren't double covering them.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was, it was. It was hard to
Speaker 1: keep him away from the football once you got into
Speaker 1: that red zone, similar to Calvin Johnson. And that's where
Speaker 1: I can see Kyle Pitts a little bit because because
Speaker 1: Calvin Johnson didn't have a lot of wiggle, but once
Speaker 1: he got to that boy in that point of attack,
Speaker 1: it was hard to stop him from getting the balls.
Speaker 1: So I'm just being a lawyer. I just asked you
Speaker 1: a question. You just told me Kyle Pitts has the
Speaker 1: ability to be a weapon. That Rob Gronkowski a guy
Speaker 1: who's built together a Hall of Fame resume, and so
Speaker 1: based on that, that doesn't get to ten, that does
Speaker 1: not slide well, doesn't get hypothetical zeal doesn't slide to
Speaker 1: ten at all. Okay, So stay with Kyle Pitts and
Speaker 1: something that he was asked and I would think it
Speaker 1: was Al Harris who asked him. In the video chat
Speaker 1: you can check it out over Dallas Cowboys dot com
Speaker 1: where they interviewed J. C. Horne, they interviewed Kyle Pitts
Speaker 1: and they said, who's the best corner you went up against?
Speaker 1: And pitt said it was jac Horn, the corner from
Speaker 1: South Carolina. And right now, most draft experts and most
Speaker 1: people who who cover the National Football League or thinking
Speaker 1: Patrick s Utan or jac Horne to the Cowboys. So
Speaker 1: when you hear Kyle Pitts say, hey, J C. Horne
Speaker 1: was the guy, what do you what are you? What
Speaker 1: are you thinking? I'm thinking because they're two different styles
Speaker 1: of corners. Um, I feel like j. Jac Horn might
Speaker 1: have been a tougher matchup for for Kyle Pitts because
Speaker 1: he thrives in that man to man. Let me press
Speaker 1: you at the line of scrimmage. You're gonna get this
Speaker 1: all day. And that's what he did. When they win
Speaker 1: against each other, he pressed him. He battled at the
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. You know, Kyle Pitts won some. Jac
Speaker 1: Horn won some, but he battled him throughout the whole
Speaker 1: entire game. And then when you look at a guy
Speaker 1: like sur Tam, if you're a team that just is
Speaker 1: constricted strictly man to man, they just that's all they do.
Speaker 1: They lock up single high, everybody else is locked up
Speaker 1: across the board. Then you gotta go that jac Horn route.
Speaker 1: But the reason I go certain is I think he's
Speaker 1: a multifaceted corner. He got many tools out there. He
Speaker 1: might not be as great a man the man as
Speaker 1: jac Horn is, but he's still a good man the
Speaker 1: man corner. So let's just not say he's trash at
Speaker 1: man to man. He might be, you know, jac Horns
Speaker 1: one A, he's one B. But when it comes to
Speaker 1: everything else, I'm talking about the run game, I'm talking
Speaker 1: about zone coverage, getting your hands on the football. I
Speaker 1: think he gets a little bit of step above over J. C. Horne.
Speaker 1: And that's why I take him over Horn in the
Speaker 1: long haul, because Horn may be that great physical man,
Speaker 1: the man shut you down. Hey, coach, I'm coming in
Speaker 1: film room. Who I got today? I'm locking him down?
Speaker 1: All right, I'll see you guys on the practice field.
Speaker 1: He's that tunnel vision locked in tight corner. Whereas you
Speaker 1: look at Sir Tan, you could do so much more
Speaker 1: with him. You can leave him on anough, sad tight
Speaker 1: end because you know he has that run support in there,
Speaker 1: because a lot of a lot of teams nowadays, they'll
Speaker 1: try to leave that corner on an island on the
Speaker 1: enough said, where it is just a tight end, and
Speaker 1: they'll run straight at him because a lot of corners
Speaker 1: they want to make business decisions out here and they're
Speaker 1: not looking to tackle, you know, Josh Jacobs running down
Speaker 1: or Derrick Henry running down. But I can see Sir
Speaker 1: Tan doing that, and that's why I kind of take
Speaker 1: him above JC Horn. He might not be as great
Speaker 1: of a a man the man corner, but he does everything
Speaker 1: else at such a high clip, and I think he's
Speaker 1: the guy that we need to go ahead and take.
Speaker 1: All right, here's where I rely on your expertise of
Speaker 1: the National Football League, with what we know about dan
Speaker 1: Quinn and what he ran in Atlanta and what he
Speaker 1: ran in Seattle, who is the better fit for the scheme?
Speaker 1: Patrick's R Tanner without a doubt. I'm saying certain because
Speaker 1: in a lot of gang Quinn's defenses, unless he's going
Speaker 1: against a guy like Megatron or something where they gotta
Speaker 1: had that best guy on him, they don't travel a lot.
Speaker 1: You didn't see Richard Sherman, you know, traveling with the
Speaker 1: best receiver. He stayed on his right side. Brandon Browner
Speaker 1: stayed on his left side. And that's how they worked
Speaker 1: in a dan Quinn system, and they ran a lot
Speaker 1: of cover three where the corner wasn't specifically locked on
Speaker 1: that outside ride receiver. He had to keep his eyes
Speaker 1: on the quarterback. He had to keep his eyes on
Speaker 1: other four mate or other routes coming into his zone.
Speaker 1: And I think that's what I would lean on as
Speaker 1: a guy that has such or so many tools out there.
Speaker 1: He can help you in the run, he can help
Speaker 1: you in the zone coverage, and he can help you
Speaker 1: in man to man as well. Whereas JC Horn, I
Speaker 1: think is a lot better in man to man than
Speaker 1: he is at zone. And I just believe that, you know,
Speaker 1: with the pedocreas Certain has, I think he would fit
Speaker 1: perfectly with a dan Quinn system, and that's the route
Speaker 1: I'm going with it. I mean, we see, we see
Speaker 1: with Richard Sherman was able to do in his legion
Speaker 1: of boom defense. I think Certain has that same tool
Speaker 1: set but a little bit even more athleticism. And I
Speaker 1: think he'd beat that perfect pick at number ten for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. NFL writer I follow on Twitter's Doug Ferrard.
Speaker 1: He did excellent study on what he liked to call
Speaker 1: the abuse of cornerbacks, and he was talking about teams
Speaker 1: that took corners that just did not fit their scheme.
Speaker 1: This is the worst thing you could do. And basically
Speaker 1: one of the things he talked about is, hey, if
Speaker 1: you got a guy who plays man to man, don't
Speaker 1: bring him into your defensive he's playing zone. You're not
Speaker 1: going to get the best version of the football player.
Speaker 1: Look at Mo Claiborne. Look at look at Mo Claiborne.
Speaker 1: We brought Mo Claiborne in LSU man to man. He
Speaker 1: won the Thorpe Award, and what he did best was
Speaker 1: just lock up on guys. Hey mo, you got this guy,
Speaker 1: Hey mo, you got that guy. And we brought him
Speaker 1: into this Marinelli system where it was mostly his own.
Speaker 1: We had him trying to chuck receivers and try to
Speaker 1: get back and look and cover two and tackle running
Speaker 1: backs in the flat and nothing to get his mo.
Speaker 1: But that just wasn't his game. He was a lockdown,
Speaker 1: man to man corner who did wanted nothing to do
Speaker 1: with the run, nothing to do with zone. Let me
Speaker 1: lock it on this guy. And we brought him in
Speaker 1: there thinking, Okay, we can mold him into what we
Speaker 1: want him to be, and it just didn't work out
Speaker 1: that way. I mean, sometimes you gotta let a guy
Speaker 1: do what he does best. And he played man and
Speaker 1: man and we tried to mold him. And that's just
Speaker 1: one example of how you I think you gotta gotta
Speaker 1: you gotta pick, You gotta fit pick a player that
Speaker 1: matches your scheme, not necessarily a player that's just great
Speaker 1: at doing one specific thing. All right, So let me
Speaker 1: take this a little bit further here. So you're the
Speaker 1: Cowboys and you get to ten. Let's say Patrick's or
Speaker 1: tan is off the board. Now you have the opportunity
Speaker 1: to take jac Horne. But based on what you said,
Speaker 1: if they're not just gonna let Jac Horn go out
Speaker 1: there play man and man, would the Cowboys be better
Speaker 1: off looking at another player. Some people believe that Greg
Speaker 1: Newsom is that number four cornerback or maybe even they drop,
Speaker 1: you know, they say, hey, we'll trade down a little
Speaker 1: bit and maybe gamble on taking Caleb Farley. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to find a fit here because what I
Speaker 1: don't want to do is go bringing a guy like Horn.
Speaker 1: If you say, hey, man, go play that man and
Speaker 1: you mess it up. I remember when Nandi Oswa left
Speaker 1: the Raiders, just a big deal of Philadelphia. That thing
Speaker 1: was a disaster. He was an excellent man to man guy.
Speaker 1: That three four defense that Rob Ryan was running. Went
Speaker 1: up to that zone in Philadelphia, he didn't get it.
Speaker 1: He wasn't good, and people said the guy couldn't play anymore.
Speaker 1: And it was a total abuse of the Eagles and
Speaker 1: that guy's talent. So if Horne's more man to man
Speaker 1: is Greg Knwsom, the Northwestern possibly a better player, a
Speaker 1: guy who could play zone. According to some of the
Speaker 1: people I've spoken to, I'm gonna say it like this,
Speaker 1: If Certan's not there, I think you got a trade back.
Speaker 1: I think he got a trade back. And I say
Speaker 1: that because to me, and like we've had this discussion
Speaker 1: on earlier player Lounge shows, we like me and you
Speaker 1: think the same as far as we gotta build a
Speaker 1: defense from the front to the back. Now, if there
Speaker 1: was that blue chip defensive lineman, if there was that
Speaker 1: blue chip interior defensive lineman, I'm all in it. But
Speaker 1: I don't see any of those, especially in a Round one.
Speaker 1: I don't see any blue chip defensive line prospects that
Speaker 1: could come in and be Day one contributors that can
Speaker 1: go out there and make a difference for our defense.
Speaker 1: But I do see one in the secondary, and that's
Speaker 1: Patrick's just Tan not saying J. C. Horne is a player,
Speaker 1: but I don't see him as that blue chick prospect
Speaker 1: like Curtains. And then when you go to that that
Speaker 1: that second level of defense, which is just a linebacker level,
Speaker 1: do we have any blue chick prospects? You know, maybe
Speaker 1: maybe Parsons. You know, he's a fast guy sideline the sideline,
Speaker 1: can make plays and stuff, But other than that, I
Speaker 1: don't really see a guy that sticks out that could
Speaker 1: be that blue chip we need to get him at
Speaker 1: ten other than certain and the secondary. So for me,
Speaker 1: I would trade back if that situation came about where
Speaker 1: it looks curtain's not there, depending on how sold they
Speaker 1: are on JC Horn, I don't. I don't see a
Speaker 1: scenario where if those two guys aren't there, that we
Speaker 1: pick a you know, a defensive lineman or we pick
Speaker 1: up Parsons. I think we trade back, get more picks
Speaker 1: and get depth for this defense. If those guys aren't there,
Speaker 1: if those blue chip prospects aren't there, all right, we
Speaker 1: got to take a break in here. Could Jalen Smith
Speaker 1: wear number nine next year? Guys can down. Guys can
Speaker 1: now choose numbers. Okay, you can choose a different number.
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Speaker 1: and I'll tell you why he'd decline and should the
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Speaker 1: So Church Lake Banneresh, they've got until May third to
Speaker 1: decide to pick up his fifth year option. What do
Speaker 1: you do? This one's tough. This one's tough because overall
Speaker 1: this guy was I mean, his first year, he popped
Speaker 1: out on the scene and you were like, holy sall,
Speaker 1: who is this guy? Like? Who is this guy? But
Speaker 1: it's tough, man, because after that, I mean, these injuries
Speaker 1: and the injuries that he's had as a linebacker. Going
Speaker 1: in there and you got neck problems, it's it's hard.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be extremely hard to go in there and
Speaker 1: want to put your helmet and stick your head in
Speaker 1: there when you got those big linemen coming at you
Speaker 1: and running back to your pound and each and every play,
Speaker 1: subconsciously you want to go fullhead and go in there,
Speaker 1: but subconsciously you're always going to be trying to protect
Speaker 1: yourself and protect that neck area. So for me, it's
Speaker 1: tough because then you look at it. For the Cowboys perspective,
Speaker 1: you look, well, you know who we got. Who else
Speaker 1: do we got back there that can help? That can
Speaker 1: if we don't pick up this, where else do we turn?
Speaker 1: We don't have any depth back there? So for me,
Speaker 1: I think you gotta pick up his option. I think
Speaker 1: you gotta pick up his option. Even though he's had
Speaker 1: those health issues and all that. You just got to
Speaker 1: hope that he can have a healthy season this year
Speaker 1: and then maybe you address the need in the draft
Speaker 1: next year. But going forward, I think you gotta get
Speaker 1: that fifth year option, even though it's a risk. I
Speaker 1: think you gotta get it because there's nowhere left. There's
Speaker 1: nowhere left you can go. The depth is just not
Speaker 1: there for the Godallas Cowboys. So I think they backed
Speaker 1: themselves in the corner and they gotta go ahead and
Speaker 1: pick up that fifth year option. I'm with the one
Speaker 1: hundred percent. What you do is his insurance. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, if you don't have it here, what's the insurance?
Speaker 1: You don't have anything you have to backup, So you
Speaker 1: go ahead and you pick up the fifth year option.
Speaker 1: So um two players who resigned this week as restricted
Speaker 1: free agent Antoine Woods two million dollars defensive lineman and
Speaker 1: Cedric Wilson White receiver who had seventeen catches, one hundred
Speaker 1: eighty nine yards and two touchdowns last year. He's back
Speaker 1: to on a one year deal. How you feeling about that?
Speaker 1: The Antoine Wood or the yeah, yeah, the Antwine Woods one.
Speaker 1: I like that as a pick. You know, he came
Speaker 1: in and I believe he had solid contributions to this defense.
Speaker 1: He's not going to be the guy that can get
Speaker 1: you high sack numbers or put his consistently pressure on
Speaker 1: the quarterback and go out there, and he's not going
Speaker 1: to be that main focal point that offensive lineman. They
Speaker 1: gotta make sure they take care of Antoine Woods. But
Speaker 1: I believe he's a solid, solid piece of this defense
Speaker 1: and a solid rotational piece. He can come in and
Speaker 1: get guys breathers, and he's he has a skill setting
Speaker 1: a bit in an ability to be a factor against
Speaker 1: the run game, which we know we need all the
Speaker 1: help against the run game we need. So I think
Speaker 1: it was a solid resign for them to bring him
Speaker 1: back to add depth to that interior defensive line. I
Speaker 1: think we still do need some more because right now
Speaker 1: we've got Neville Gallimore, you got Tristan Hill coming off
Speaker 1: an ACL, so who knows where he will be at,
Speaker 1: even though he did start the season off last year
Speaker 1: having a pretty good season before he tours ACL, so
Speaker 1: we don't know where he'll be at. Neville Gallimore, I
Speaker 1: think is a star waiting to happen. I think if
Speaker 1: he can build upon last year's season, I think he
Speaker 1: can be someone that offenses have to make sure they
Speaker 1: take care of. And you bring in an Antoine Woods
Speaker 1: in there that can help get that depth piece when
Speaker 1: those guys need rest, and maybe we'll pick up some
Speaker 1: more in the draft. But I think overall, the Woods
Speaker 1: resigning was solid. The Cedric Wilson as well, I think,
Speaker 1: you know he contributed to this wide receiver corps. I
Speaker 1: mean we got a Stud Trio right there, and Gallup
Speaker 1: Cooper and Cedee Lamb. Now we're bringing a Said Wilson
Speaker 1: and the Noah Brown. Those guys come in, you know,
Speaker 1: you get breathers there, and we've seen those guys make
Speaker 1: big plays during the season in past years. So I
Speaker 1: believe both of these signings are solid high or solid signings.
Speaker 1: But I will have to lean towards Woods at being
Speaker 1: the better of the two. Signings. All right, the NFL
Speaker 1: has approved number change. So if you are a quarterback,
Speaker 1: you can wear one through nineteen. If you're defensive back,
Speaker 1: you can wear one through forty nine. Offensive linemen can
Speaker 1: wear fifty through seventy nine. Running backs, tight ends, wide
Speaker 1: receivers can wear one through thirty nine, and they can
Speaker 1: also wear eighty through eighty nine, and then linebackers they
Speaker 1: can wear one through fifty nine and then ninety through
Speaker 1: ninety nine, and defensive linemen can wear fifty to seventy
Speaker 1: nine and they can wear ninety two ninety nine. Jalen
Speaker 1: Smith number nine next year? What do you think? Oh,
Speaker 1: they're gonna let him get away with that. They gonna
Speaker 1: so there's there's no way, you know, they're gonna let
Speaker 1: Romo's number get passed out like that. There's just no way.
Speaker 1: The Robo is the He's the prodible son of the
Speaker 1: Dallas Gudboys. There's no way. Don't let my boy, missus
Speaker 1: swiper Jalen Smith out there rock that number nine? Now?
Speaker 1: Do I think it will look sweet? Hell? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think it will look sweet to have a linebacker in
Speaker 1: a single digit number. I wish this rule was changed.
Speaker 1: When I was playing, I had a fullback number. I
Speaker 1: had number forty two at the safety and I was
Speaker 1: sick I had that old fullback number. If I could
Speaker 1: go back and they had this rule change, I'd be
Speaker 1: single digits like I always was. High school, I was
Speaker 1: number eight, college, I was number eight. Now I'm at
Speaker 1: forty two when I was with the Cowboys. So I
Speaker 1: love the rule change. I love it, you know, I
Speaker 1: hope I hope these players take full advantage of it, Like,
Speaker 1: like you think that's sweet they have number one at
Speaker 1: the corner or number two at the safety position for
Speaker 1: these single digit linebackers, I think that looks sweet. And look,
Speaker 1: I'm all for the rule change. Even though there's some
Speaker 1: players out there, some older players I ain't gonna say
Speaker 1: no names, guys in Tampa Bay maybe that hate this
Speaker 1: rule change and they don't know how to mike guys
Speaker 1: here and there. But I think it's a great change,
Speaker 1: and I think it'll look extremely sweet to see linebackers
Speaker 1: secondary guys in single digit numbers. So why receivers and
Speaker 1: single digit numbers. It'll bring me back to those high
Speaker 1: school in college days. And I think it's a great
Speaker 1: would change. Now. Dalvin Cook of the Minnesota Vikings currently
Speaker 1: wears number thirty three. At Florida State, he was number four,
Speaker 1: and he looked into it, thought about making a change.
Speaker 1: Then he found out and as our producer Chris Beams
Speaker 1: spoke about, you have to buy of the NFL inventory
Speaker 1: for your number. So the NFL has already got a
Speaker 1: circle I know that jerseys. Oh yes, they've already got
Speaker 1: a certain number Dalvin Cook jerseys that are already been
Speaker 1: that are already available. You have to buy those up.
Speaker 1: So Dalvin Cook was going to have to pay one
Speaker 1: point five million dollars to change to number four. And
Speaker 1: you know what, Dalvin sus said, what do you say, No, no, channel, No,
Speaker 1: you ain't fail at one point five to switch numbers. No, no,
Speaker 1: but that's wild that. So guys that don't have their
Speaker 1: jerseys out there in the stores all like that, Like
Speaker 1: let's just say Donovan Wilson, he doesn't have his jersey
Speaker 1: all out there and stores like that, they can change
Speaker 1: with no purchase or nothing like that. But guys that
Speaker 1: are you know, pretty much stars in this league that
Speaker 1: you know, people wear their jerseys and stadiums, they got
Speaker 1: to pay to be able to switch their number. So Basically,
Speaker 1: you know guys who are free agents who or for this,
Speaker 1: maybe an Antoine Woods. You know, you possibly can go
Speaker 1: ahead and buy up those jerseys. But then again, he's
Speaker 1: making two million dollars, so because he want to have
Speaker 1: to take you know, maybe possibly a couple hundred grand
Speaker 1: out of his own pocket, you can go pay for
Speaker 1: a number. This is going to be something that you
Speaker 1: see with new guys coming into the league, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: because if you're an establishment and you're thinking about, you know,
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey, you want to pay this kind of money
Speaker 1: just to switch a number, I don't. I don't see
Speaker 1: that happening here. Patrick Mahomes is going to switch to
Speaker 1: his college number. They know it's gonna cost way too
Speaker 1: much money. Because this is where the NFL owners are geniuses.
Speaker 1: You want to switch, fine, but you gotta pay us
Speaker 1: to do it. So if Dalvin Cook wants to give
Speaker 1: the NFL one point five million dollars and then he
Speaker 1: starts a new number and they go make more money
Speaker 1: off that, dude, it's good for the NFL. This is
Speaker 1: very smart business by the league. Yeah it is, And
Speaker 1: I think you're right. It will just be new guys
Speaker 1: that are first are coming into the league that that'll
Speaker 1: take advantage of this rule change, because, like you said,
Speaker 1: if Dalvin Cook's number is one point five to change
Speaker 1: is imagine one of my homes or or a Brady
Speaker 1: or you know, somebody like that, it's gonna it's gonna
Speaker 1: be out of this world to change their number. And
Speaker 1: you know, if they're like you said, the NFL is smartness,
Speaker 1: the ultimate business. And overall though, I think you'll see
Speaker 1: the college guys coming in with the ability to have
Speaker 1: these low numbers because you know, all the veterans they
Speaker 1: already they're already establishing their numbers. They couldn't use those
Speaker 1: those low single digit numbers when they first got in,
Speaker 1: and like you said, they're already establishing what they got.
Speaker 1: So these new guys coming in, they'll definitely I can
Speaker 1: see a couple of receivers rocking, you know, number two,
Speaker 1: number three, number five out there. I mean, I can
Speaker 1: see that happening. But I think it'll be a new
Speaker 1: wave and those old guys that they're just not gonna
Speaker 1: want to pay one point five million just to switch
Speaker 1: a number. To me, it's not worth it. But you know, hey,
Speaker 1: well that was Cook, that was what Cook would have
Speaker 1: had to pay. So I don't know what Janalen Smith
Speaker 1: would have to pay to go to number nine. Not
Speaker 1: sure exactly what Ezekiel Elliot would have to pay to
Speaker 1: go to number fifteen. We're number fifteen in Ohio state.
Speaker 1: So but these are just if you're a popular player
Speaker 1: in the league, and you're a player this moving product.
Speaker 1: It may be it may be hoo view to just
Speaker 1: stay where you are. So if you're Ceedee Lamb, going
Speaker 1: to number two is possibly gonna It may be too
Speaker 1: costly for you to switch from eighty eight. It may not.
Speaker 1: You know, you may decide. I can put, in Dalin
Speaker 1: Cook's case, one point five million dollars of money to
Speaker 1: a better use number in arresting there, Hey want to
Speaker 1: end with a question from Carolina Panthers head coach Matt Rule.
Speaker 1: This is what he likes to ask um potential prospects.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna I'm gonna ask you this what he
Speaker 1: asked them if you were on a desert island, what's
Speaker 1: the one recording artist you would want to listen to?
Speaker 1: He by the way, he chose Dave Matthews. Dave Matthews
Speaker 1: Band was who Matt Rule picked is the one artist
Speaker 1: he would listen to on a deserted island. So who
Speaker 1: you got, You know, I gotta go with my boy
Speaker 1: Bob Marley. Man, if you guys watched the show, you
Speaker 1: see I got this poster in the background when we're
Speaker 1: doing my our shows. But I mean, especially if you're
Speaker 1: on a deserted island, you gotta have those happy vibes.
Speaker 1: You gotta have those happy tunes to keep to keep
Speaker 1: the emotions going, to keep you going in the right direction.
Speaker 1: You don't want to sit there and be you know,
Speaker 1: awesome heavy metal and just man, I'm sitting on this island.
Speaker 1: How am I gonna get off? If you get those
Speaker 1: happy vibes Bob's always pushing into his music, You'll find
Speaker 1: a way to get off that island. Even if you
Speaker 1: don't get off for a while, you can at least
Speaker 1: be happy while you're enjoying the island. So I gotta
Speaker 1: have Bob Marley and on my speaker box while I'm
Speaker 1: stuck at sea or stuck on an island. About ten ten,
Speaker 1: maybe six seven years ago, before he got into all
Speaker 1: his issues and troubles, I would have said our Kemp,
Speaker 1: but I can't. Yeah, I can't do that now. Nah nah,
Speaker 1: give me Stevie Wonder because Stevie Wonders, those artists were
Speaker 1: everybody likes Stevie, and Stevie's got love songs. He's got
Speaker 1: good song you know you play that old Master blast.
Speaker 1: I mean he's got, you know, great stuff, superstition. Um.
Speaker 1: I just called to say I love you, overjoyed. I
Speaker 1: mean that the record, the records that Stevie has been
Speaker 1: making since the sixties are just classics. So I would
Speaker 1: pick something that is a classic. And there's a whole
Speaker 1: lot of different ones he could go with, So I would,
Speaker 1: I would rock. I would rock some Stevie Wonder. If
Speaker 1: I had just one artist to play, solid choice. Can't
Speaker 1: go wrong with Stevie Wonder out there, Stevie Wondering. Bob Marley, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you'll be a you'll make it through. You'll make it
Speaker 1: through the island. You'll be straight. All right. Let's wrap
Speaker 1: the show up with a simple question. Cowboys picking at
Speaker 1: number ten next Thursday. Who do they select with a
Speaker 1: numbered with the number ten overall pick and the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty one NFL draft the Dalla This Cowboys select Patrick Curtan.
Speaker 1: I believe it's the second. I'm not sure if it's
Speaker 1: junior or the second, but I'm just gonna say Patrick
Speaker 1: Curtan the second. He's gonna come be a cornerstone part
Speaker 1: of this defense. He's gonna turn around this young secondary
Speaker 1: hymn Treyvon Diggs and hopefully Demante Kazy back there can
Speaker 1: get these boys lined up, but they gotta go certain
Speaker 1: at number ten. I believe he's a blue chip prospect
Speaker 1: and I think he can get the most out of
Speaker 1: his defense if you add him along with the Treyvon
Speaker 1: Diggs out there. I am review one hundred percent. Patrick's
Speaker 1: Artan is the pick I'd like to see the Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys make. I am worried about Caroline at eight, but
Speaker 1: I'm hoping Carolina takes Rashaan Slayter, the offensive tackle out
Speaker 1: of Northwestern, and at nine, maybe the Broncos take the quarterback.
Speaker 1: So it would be an amazing thing if the number one,
Speaker 1: I should say, the highest rated defensive player ended up
Speaker 1: not going until ten in the draft and the Cowboys
Speaker 1: were able to take him. I just think he fits
Speaker 1: so many needs of what they have and he could
Speaker 1: be a building block. And I'm looking not just next year.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at for about ten years that the Cowboys
Speaker 1: could have at the number one corner in place here,
Speaker 1: and you put Sir Tannon Dix together knowing the kind
Speaker 1: of guys that they got to go face this year.
Speaker 1: You've got Kansas City on the schedule. So you've got
Speaker 1: Tyree Hill. You've got Michael Thomas the New Orleans Saints.
Speaker 1: You've got Keenan Allen of the Chargers, you got Feeling,
Speaker 1: you got Jefferson of the Vikings. You've got Chris gott When.
Speaker 1: You've got Mike Evans of the Bucks on the schedule.
Speaker 1: You've got Julio Jones and Calvin Ridley on the schedule.
Speaker 1: You've got Kitty Galladaya the Giants on the schedule. You
Speaker 1: got who else the Eagle right, who else the Eagles
Speaker 1: decide to take. You got Curtis Samuel, and you've got
Speaker 1: scary Terry McLaurin of the Washington football team on your
Speaker 1: the white receivers that the Cowboys are gonna face this
Speaker 1: year to pretty wicked deal out there. You got the
Speaker 1: Hambling kid, and you got the kid from Alabama, Jerry
Speaker 1: Judy for the Denver Broncos. I mean, there's no shortage
Speaker 1: to do. They're gonna have to face the Raiders with
Speaker 1: Henry Ruggs. I mean, the Cowboys are going to be
Speaker 1: taking on some serious wide receivers and it's a passing league.
Speaker 1: So I think he got to go ahead and try
Speaker 1: and address it. And I think Patrick's ten the second
Speaker 1: fits so many things for the Cowboys. Chris be my producer.
Speaker 1: Who you got taking at ten? By the way, we
Speaker 1: didn't ask you. We always talk amongst ourselves here, but
Speaker 1: but who you got? Who do you want to see
Speaker 1: the Cowboys take their ten? Okay, we go, So we're
Speaker 1: all in agreement. We are all in agreement. We want
Speaker 1: to see number two from Alabama and I don't. And
Speaker 1: that's who's got Number two? Is miss Wander the punter?
Speaker 1: Is he number two? Because this one, Miss Wander, you
Speaker 1: gotta get that up, Miss Wander, you gotta get that.
Speaker 1: I mean so yeah, so so just looking right here, man,
Speaker 1: he could go ahead and rock that. He can rock.
Speaker 1: He can rock number two here. That would be pretty cool.
Speaker 1: That would be pretty cool. Hey, that's the players Lounge.
Speaker 1: We appreciate you checking us out here. Will be back
Speaker 1: on Friday. We'll review that Cowboys first overall pick in
Speaker 1: the draft that they make at number ten, fifteen, twenty,
Speaker 1: wherever they make it, and maybe they make two picks
Speaker 1: in the first round. They have done that before. We
Speaker 1: appreciate you checking us out. For Barry Church producer Chris Beam,
Speaker 1: I'm new, he scrugs. Say again, Say again, Chris Beam. Oh,
Speaker 1: Greg's urline the kickers number two. Yeah, go ahead, snatch
Speaker 1: that from him. Yeah, go ahead, Hey, Greg the leg
Speaker 1: you gotta get that up gregor leg, you gotta get
Speaker 1: up there. You're going. Yeah, you go ahead and take you,
Speaker 1: go ahead and take that from from the kicker all
Speaker 1: day long. Okay, Yeah, you just pay him a little
Speaker 1: bit of money, sending in the cobo, break him off
Speaker 1: a little bit. Thanksat exactly. Just just pay him a
Speaker 1: little cash and move on down the road. All right.
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