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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid Verbal.

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Speaker 2: I'm that for me.

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Speaker 1: I'm a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,

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Speaker 1: I want to be happy. You want to be happy

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Speaker 1: for dake Edo State?

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Speaker 2: Is that? Whoo whoo?

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Speaker 1: And Don and.

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Speaker 2: Tye, welcome back to the Solid Verbal, Boys and girls.

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Speaker 2: My name is ty Hildebrand. Joining me as always my

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Speaker 2: good friend Dan Rubinstein. Way over there, And where.

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Speaker 1: Are you today?

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Speaker 2: Dan?

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Speaker 1: I'm in Miami? Tie, Miami. Yeah I was. I was

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Speaker 1: half hoping that you would have the welcome to me? Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: What are you doing down there?

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Speaker 1: Uh? Not not much. I honestly, I don't have much

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Speaker 1: to do. And Jody with and I had a work

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Speaker 1: trip down here, and I said, you know what, I'm

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Speaker 1: just gonna follow you on down to Miami. And it's

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Speaker 1: it's pretty nice down here, Ty, it is. It is

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Speaker 1: pretty nice. I'm not that far from the U.

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Speaker 2: Okay, the free agent lifestyle is suiting well.

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Speaker 1: I see it's suiting me well. And there's something I

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Speaker 1: want to bring up, Ty. Yeah, there's a scene from

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Speaker 1: a classic sports movie, maybe the most classic sports movie

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Speaker 1: of all. There's a scene from Cool Runnings, right, and

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Speaker 1: I've referenced this I want to say before on the show,

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Speaker 1: but maybe I just referenced it so much. I don't

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Speaker 1: know where and when. But there's a scene from the

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Speaker 1: movie like before, you know, the night before a big race. God,

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Speaker 1: what was the name of the main character. I know

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Speaker 1: it's Leon is the actor, Okay, Derese direct, whatever it is.

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Speaker 1: It was not Dougie Doug, but he was the leader.

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Speaker 1: And he was in the bathtub the night before the race,

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Speaker 1: an empty bathtub.

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Speaker 2: Sort of going through mentally the paces of the track.

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Speaker 2: I remember the paces of the track, this curve and

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Speaker 2: this curve. And John Candy, the coach, was like, this

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Speaker 2: is what separates you. You know, all the greats are

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Speaker 2: wired like this. And as I was sitting on the

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Speaker 2: beach at like I don't know, three forty five pm

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Speaker 2: and realized it's probably gonna there's probably be some traffic

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Speaker 2: in Miami, I gotta get back to record the show.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to say this right now, Ty, Lesser college

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Speaker 2: football podcasts would not have made the sacrifice. No, I'm

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Speaker 2: a very stupid person. But here we are, Ty, this

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Speaker 2: is what separates us. Come rain or shine or beautiful

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Speaker 2: Miami sands. We are the cool Runnings leader of podcast consistence.

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Speaker 2: Why didn't you record from the beach in retrospect?

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Speaker 1: I should have.

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Speaker 2: We could have figured out some way to record from

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Speaker 2: the beach.

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Speaker 1: Data has been shaky, tie data. You know, I've been

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Speaker 1: running up some data bills. But I could have recorded.

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Speaker 1: This was now Jody with and I her one of

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Speaker 1: her best friend's moms has a place on the beach,

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Speaker 1: and it was it was real nice. T I had

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Speaker 1: a good sandwich and some donuts for lunch. Was taking

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Speaker 1: a nap and listen to a podcast. Life is good

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Speaker 1: down here, Ty, I may never leave. All right.

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Speaker 2: Well, welcome aboard, Thank you, Thank you for sacrificing your

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Speaker 2: beautiful beach day.

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Speaker 1: Hey you come and talk college for But I'm good.

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Speaker 2: I'm a little tired today, but you know, I'm hanging

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Speaker 2: in and I'm excited that I get to chat with

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Speaker 2: you again about college football. If you're yep, just joining

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Speaker 2: us for the first time. Hello, Welcome. My name is Ty,

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Speaker 2: He's Dan. We run a little show here called the

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Speaker 2: Solid Verbal, which you can find at solidverbal dot com.

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Speaker 2: We're also on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram. We're out on Reddit.

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Speaker 2: You can find as on iTunes, Spotify, Google Play, Stitcher, anywhere,

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Speaker 2: or you can find a podcast. You can also find

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Speaker 2: our show and what we do here. We like to

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Speaker 2: talk college football year round. Now, as you can tell

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Speaker 2: from the first I don't know handful of minutes there.

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Speaker 2: We don't always start out that way, but I promise

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Speaker 2: you that tonight that is where we are headed.

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Speaker 1: Last week we did Q and a show. This week

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Speaker 1: we're doing a show we're calling Spring Forward Dan oh

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Speaker 1: my god, the drama. Yeah. What we have is we

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Speaker 1: have sort of a list, a litany, I don't know

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Speaker 1: people that once we started gazing upon twenty eighteen rosters

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Speaker 1: that like maybe early on there's some skepticism, or maybe

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Speaker 1: who's incoming whatever. But let's basically we've selected five topics

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Speaker 1: the negative and everything in between. I don't know all

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Speaker 1: that much about your topics that you've had the opportunity

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Speaker 1: the topics I've chosen to deep dive. So I think

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Speaker 1: we're just going to sort of go back and forth

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Speaker 1: direction they're going in. So I'm excited for this because

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Speaker 1: it's already twenty eighteen, and because of twenty eighteen, we

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Speaker 1: have talked about the twenty eighteen season. We cannot continue

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Speaker 1: to look back or always just be big picture tie.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes it's time to put on that information. Snorkel and

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Speaker 1: dive in.

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Speaker 2: That is absolutely right, and it is. It's supposedly spring

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Speaker 2: now here on the East Coast. They keep telling us this,

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Speaker 2: ruin a golf round that I have I'm sorry, previously scheduled. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so they claim that we're in the midst of springtime here,

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Speaker 2: spring football. Spring practices are very much a thing, Spring games, scrimmages,

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Speaker 2: whatever you want to call them, weird formats, very much

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Speaker 2: a thing. And it is this time of year where

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Speaker 2: we start looking at twenty eighteen and all right, who

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Speaker 2: start doing some research on our end, hopefully to get

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Speaker 2: all y'all prepared for what's coming over the coming days

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Speaker 2: the twenty eighteen regular college football season.

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Speaker 1: That's what we do. I'm getting tierry just hearing you

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Speaker 1: say y'all instead of ya'all. That's right? That really does

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Speaker 1: you know? People don't believe in evolution? Tie, And this

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Speaker 1: is the proof right here that you and I have

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Speaker 1: grown all right, So, as you mentioned, what we did

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Speaker 2: By no means is this intended to be a lecture.

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Speaker 2: I think we want to go back and forth and

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Speaker 2: talk through some of these topics. So why don't I

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Speaker 1: I would say it's not a lecture tie. It is

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Speaker 1: a competition to see who can get closest to being maybe.

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Speaker 2: Right, Okay, I'll go with that. That works for me,

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Speaker 2: so all right, first question here, a lot of movement

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Speaker 2: to you, is it true or not true that new

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Speaker 2: Florida head football coach Dan Mullen is just a quarterback

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Speaker 2: away from returning the Gators to prominence.

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Speaker 1: Is that a true statement? No, I don't think. I

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Speaker 1: don't think that's all that there is. I think that

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Speaker 1: sort of multi layered. Ty. I would imagine if he

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Speaker 1: is able to solve quarterback, a number of things will

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Speaker 1: fall into place. Okay, but recruiting quarterbacks of the state

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Speaker 1: A difficult thing because high school quarterbacks in Florida have

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Speaker 1: Florida guy, that's right. Oh, he gets how it works.

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Speaker 1: Welcome Welcome home, Dan, Right, that's sort of very abstract thing,

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Speaker 1: like he just gets it, which doesn't always actual work.

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Speaker 1: But I think there is something true to saying if

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Speaker 1: he can figure out quarterback, And it did seem like

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Speaker 1: hasn't been all that long since Florida fans were rightfully

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Speaker 1: confident that things were finally figured out at quarterback. That said,

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Speaker 1: I think there are questions about recruiting with how well

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Speaker 1: do in Florida that Dan Mullen can't take a back seat.

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Speaker 1: And I think his staff has been put together with

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Speaker 1: to continue to be an enormous, enormous challenge. And honestly,

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Speaker 1: has the biggest juggernaut perhaps the East has seen since

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Speaker 2: See, that's where I was, That's where I was going

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Speaker 2: to go with this.

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Speaker 1: So I'm going to I'm going to give the Floria

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Speaker 1: to you. Tie, is what slice of the pie to

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Speaker 1: you in your deep dive? Is the quarterback question given

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Speaker 1: the broader context of his job now, No.

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Speaker 2: I think we're very much on the same page on

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Speaker 2: this one. The reason I asked the question, by the way,

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Speaker 2: is because it's really been a popular talking point ever

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Speaker 2: since we heard that Dan Mullen was getting the job. Hell,

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Speaker 2: I've gone there without even really thinking about it. Of course,

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Speaker 2: Dan Mullen's ability to recruit and develop quarterbacks. Of course,

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Speaker 2: if he can do that in Gainesville, it's going to help.

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Speaker 2: Florida was one hundred and second in the nation in

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Speaker 2: passing offense last year. Anything at quote you or I

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Speaker 2: could help at this point, all right. It was absolutely

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Speaker 2: the biggest Achilles heel for them last year, and quite honestly,

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Speaker 2: maybe with the exception of Will Greer, maybe the last

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Speaker 2: eight seasons before last, I have not had any stability

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Speaker 2: So I think at a minimum, Florida is a quarterback

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: Now, I preface that by saying that your point is

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Speaker 2: and that is due I think in large part two,

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Speaker 2: as you alluded, Georgia is revving up. We've got new

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Speaker 2: Georgia is revved Yeah. With the road they're at like

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Speaker 2: seven thousand rpm. Yes, who knows what happens at Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: If Jeremy Pruitt can give them some stability, and then

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Speaker 2: you've got the continued edition of coaching talent. In the West,

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Speaker 2: it's just it's like not cut and dry anymore. So

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Speaker 2: quarterback's going to help, and certainly if Emery Jones or

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Speaker 2: Felipe Franks, I don't know who quarterback is going to be,

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Speaker 2: probably Emory Jones. But if that position grouping can work out,

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Speaker 2: it's going to elevate the Gators. It just doesn't feel

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Speaker 2: like they're one piece away anymore.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and Dan Mullen's his offenses, granted, in the West

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Speaker 1: and different animals still at this point than the East,

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Speaker 1: And he's calling plays I assume because he doesn't really

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean it depends what they want this offense

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Speaker 1: to LSU. There is not much experience here. Miles Brennan

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Speaker 1: is the most experienced, but collectively between these three guys,

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Speaker 1: he only threw something like twenty five passes in twenty seventeen,

435
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Speaker 1: so we're talking really truly full reboot at quarterback. We've

436
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Speaker 1: also got turnover at offensive coordinator. With Matt Canada leaving,

437
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Speaker 1: ed Orgeron has promoted from within. The new coordinator is

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Speaker 1: a gentleman by the name of Steve Enspinger. Yeah old

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Speaker 1: new guy, new old guy. Yeah, he's been around. He's

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Speaker 1: been around for a while.

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Speaker 2: If that name doesn't sound familiar, that's okay. What you

442
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Speaker 2: need to know is that he was the interromoc back

443
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Speaker 2: in twenty sixteen. I guess when Oderan took over for

444
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Speaker 2: like the final eight games of the.

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Speaker 1: Year and had a really nice run. He did.

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Speaker 2: They won six of those eight games, didn't do all

447
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Speaker 2: that well offensively against teams like Alabama, in Florida. But

448
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Speaker 2: it was certainly a big step up from what we

449
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Speaker 2: saw under Cam Cameron for sure.

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Speaker 1: So there's that.

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Speaker 2: I think the two names you're gonna hear the most

452
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Speaker 2: about our Miles Brennan and my boy Lowell Narcis.

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Speaker 1: Okay, who would you give the Edge two? Because these

454
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Speaker 1: are two guys. I mean, Brendan obviously has the playing time,

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Speaker 1: Edge Narcis has the name Edge a name, and that

456
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Speaker 1: it's more fun to say so to you because I

457
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Speaker 1: from what I can remember, it's a more not necessarily

458
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Speaker 1: pro style, but more traditional. It's just take a lot

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Speaker 1: of chances and yeah, it's whereas where Matt Canada had

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Speaker 1: employed a lot of shiftin was certainly multiple. I don't

461
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Speaker 1: think he was a spread guy necessarily, but definitely multiple

462
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Speaker 1: and more creative than what LSU had shown in years

463
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Speaker 1: past with relying on a lot of fly action and

464
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Speaker 1: that kind of stete. That's right, That's right. So Ensminger

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Speaker 1: is more of a throwback.

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Speaker 2: He is. He is absolutely more pro style than Matt Canada.

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Speaker 2: If Matt Canada is a hybrid between pro style and spread,

468
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Speaker 2: which I think is mostly accurate, An Sminger is much

469
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Speaker 2: much more on the pro style side of that equation.

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Speaker 2: If you look back to what he ran in twenty

471
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Speaker 2: sixteen when he was the intermoc, it was much more

472
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Speaker 2: pro style oriented, and I think just because of that,

473
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Speaker 2: Miles Brannan is probably the guy. He's a better fit

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Speaker 2: for his system like that, he's the best passer on

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Speaker 2: the roster, and he has a little bit more experienced

476
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Speaker 2: than the others. An Spinger hinted as much. He did

477
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Speaker 2: a radio hit back in February and he said that

478
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Speaker 2: Miles Brennan essentially would get like the first snap of

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Speaker 2: spring practice.

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Speaker 1: Which seems reasonable.

481
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Speaker 2: It absolutely I think the smart money is on him.

482
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Speaker 2: What I do want to throw out here though, just

483
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Speaker 2: as an important side note, there will be calls for

484
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Speaker 2: Lowell Narcis. He's got the way cooler name. He's a

485
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Speaker 2: dual threat guy. He's a lefty, basically a bigger, more

486
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Speaker 2: southern version of Maligue Zaire. And you know how I

487
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 2: felt about Moliku Zaire when he was recruited out of Ohio,

488
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Speaker 2: very excited, you know. So he's got a skill set

489
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Speaker 2: there that Enspinger can utilize maybe in special sets. I

490
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Speaker 2: hope for their sake, they don't try running the two

491
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Speaker 2: quarterback system. I don't think that will go over well

492
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Speaker 2: with LSU fans, given where they've been a that would

493
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Speaker 2: not be a good idea. But I think you'll see

494
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Speaker 2: a little bit of narsis. But Brenton's probably going to

495
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Speaker 2: be the guy.

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Speaker 1: So LSU goes nine to four last year, and there

497
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Speaker 1: is something a little bit disconcerting about one year of

498
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Speaker 1: an offensive coordinator, you know, whatever the fault was in

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Speaker 1: the Matt Canada ed oors or on bigger pay relationship.

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Speaker 1: Do you have and I say this knowing this is

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Speaker 1: from Afar, do you have concerns about the idea of

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Speaker 1: ed Orzron you know, as a sort of a look

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Speaker 1: back on what went wrong for ed Orzron and saying, well,

504
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: he had four offensive coordinators in four years and it's

505
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 1: hard to win. You know, do you think that that

506
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Speaker 1: is a possibility that he is not going to be

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Speaker 1: able to find the guide to get LSU to where

508
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Speaker 1: they should be considering their year in and year out

509
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Speaker 1: talent level? No, one hundred percent? Then well could that

510
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Speaker 1: that could be a part of a eulogy? Oh one

511
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Speaker 1: hundred percent? And about worries?

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Speaker 2: I don't I think that could be a convenient excuse

513
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Speaker 2: if it doesn't work out for Ed Orsron. But on

514
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Speaker 2: some level, if LSU, with all of their recruiting advantages,

515
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Speaker 2: can't get back to where we both think LSU should be,

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Speaker 2: h it probably speaks more to ed Orgeron than it

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Speaker 2: does any coordinator.

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Speaker 1: Don't you think, oh yeah, and that you know that's

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Speaker 1: true of wil must Champ at Florida, yeah twice and

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Speaker 1: ker Roper and whatever. And then you look at you know,

521
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Speaker 1: Jimora and that he's owning the news cycle as an

522
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Speaker 1: unemployed coach. And a lot of the reason why there

523
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 1: were issues at UCLA was bad coordinator hires. It was

524
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Speaker 1: Noel ma Zone who then took off, and then it

525
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 1: was Kennedy Palamala who we mentioned, and Jedfish and that's

526
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 1: tough for anybody to succeed with. And I'm talking anybody

527
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 1: like the players on the team on the offense, just

528
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 1: because the verbiage, which if you've listened to the Chris

529
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: Brown episode, you know that's an incredibly difficult thing. And

530
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,880
Speaker 1: so this hopefully works out for LSU, but if it doesn't,

531
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Speaker 1: it almost cements at or Juron's time at LSU.

532
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, all right, where are you going on the quarterback front? Dan,

533
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 2: what's your question entering spring?

534
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 1: So we'll stay somewhat regional. I'm I'm super curious, and

535
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: this is going to be a shocker again for everybody's

536
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 1: shocked at Chip Kelly. What Florida State is going to

537
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 1: look like a quarterback because there are two understandably decent

538
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 1: cases for you know, James Blackman and DeAndre francecoisre and

539
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:17,479
Speaker 1: so I'm I'm curious because having seen Willy Taggart's offense

540
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: last year, it appears and watching him at USF obviously

541
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 1: it appears he likes running the quarterback. It appears he

542
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:28,239
Speaker 1: likes going with tempo, he likes having a workhorse running back,

543
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: and he has that in cam Akers at Florida State.

544
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Speaker 1: I am I think leaning towards James Blackman a little

545
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: bit because of it, I am. And I don't think

546
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 1: it's because he necessarily has a higher well, no, I

547
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 1: think he does have a higher physical ceiling. I'm worried

548
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: about DeAndre Francois and his sort of low percentage throwing

549
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 1: downfield because that's what Willy Taggart likes to do, and

550
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: the combination of Jimbo Fisher being a much more complicated

551
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 1: offensive tactician than I think Willie Taggart will be. I

552
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: think that's ideal for James Blackman's skill set, and I

553
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: think his size gives him a leg up on DeAndre Francois,

554
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: who's probably five to eleven six foot, So I think

555
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: durability wise, arm wise, and just what he will be

556
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: asked to do in a much simpler system. I think

557
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: I'm actually leaning James Blackman moving forward, especially given the youth.

558
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 2: So what I'm hearing is that stylistically, you think James Blackman,

559
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 2: in his skill set, yes, is better equipped for a

560
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 2: Willie Taggart system.

561
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: This is correct, Man.

562
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 2: I don't know, gosh, it just didn't feel like James

563
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 2: Blackman knew what he was doing out there.

564
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: And I don't think he did. There were plenty of.

565
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 2: Games where you watched him and you didn't know if

566
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 2: you knew where to throw the ball. It seemed like

567
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 2: everything was a panic throw, and it just did not

568
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 2: feel like from the start of the season to end

569
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 2: of the season that he got a whole lot better.

570
00:29:56,040 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something, Ty, if you watch college

571
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 1: Jeopardy and you do super well, is it as impressive

572
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: necessarily as winning regular Jeopardy. Not necessarily, No, but do

573
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 1: you still win money and win an episode of Jeopardy.

574
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Speaker 1: I have no idea where you're going with this, but yes,

575
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: the answer is yes. I'm saying basically, mastering Jimbo Fisher's

576
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 1: offense is probably more impressive than mastering Willie Taggart's as

577
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Speaker 1: a quarterback. But if the end result is the same,

578
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: and that's winning ACC games much more often than not,

579
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: who really cares? Ty? Who really cares? And I think

580
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: James Blackman might just be a college Jeopardy guy right now,

581
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: and that's fine, that's wonderful. I think he can thrive

582
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 1: in this offense, Okay, especially with perhaps the most talented

583
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Speaker 1: running back talented, not the most prolific, but the most

584
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: talented running back in the ACC next to him.

585
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 2: I like DeAndre Francois more. Okay, I was not impressed

586
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 2: at all with James Blackman in what I saw of him.

587
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Speaker 2: You mentioned that he's big than DeAndre Francois, and that

588
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 2: might be true, but he was like six' five one

589
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Speaker 2: seventy a year.

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Speaker 1: OUT i wish we had done a spring practice fantasy

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645
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Speaker 2: systems that you are interested in investing in now because

646
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 2: you think they will bear fruit Come? November or is

647
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 2: it because you think it's just a topic that we're

648
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 2: going to hear a lot more of come Early.

649
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 1: June it could be any of those. Things it could to,

650
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 1: me it basically means who could we potentially be sleeping

651
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: on as a team or, position group or side of

652
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 1: the ball that could see significant improvement in twenty, eighteen

653
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: both because of personnel and experience and recruiting or just

654
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: the context of a schedule or what other teams look

655
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: like that are in their division or in their. Conference

656
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: so it's somebody, that LIKE i probably am looking at

657
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: contenders or really impressive. Teams i'm probably sleeping on at

658
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: the moment just because they haven't been there. Recently so

659
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,800
Speaker 1: who do you, have, ty who is your? CANDIDATE i

660
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: would say to make a, leap an unexpected leap for

661
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: whoever they, play for whoever they. Coach team is hit.

662
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 2: Me we Mentioned Matt canada AT. Lsu it didn't work

663
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 2: out AT, lsu But Matt canada is now At. Maryland,

664
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 2: yeah as the offensive COORDINATOR Dj, durkin who we've had

665
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 2: on the. Program he Had Walt, bell young like thirty

666
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:51,439
Speaker 2: three year old offensive. Coordinator he Left maryland to Run

667
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 2: Willie taggart's offense down there At Florida.

668
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 1: State.

669
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 2: Correct So Dj durkin acted. Quickly he did what he's

670
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 2: done all along since he got the college park and

671
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 2: he went. Out he got a coach In Matt canada

672
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 2: as an assistant who has a ton of. Experience the

673
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 2: guys on that staff had a ton of experience, indeed

674
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 2: And Mat canada now he's been at seven schools in

675
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 2: the last nine. Years it's been a weird trip for.

676
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 2: Him everyone was so excited for him to go To.

677
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 2: Las you didn't quite work. Out but nobody will ever

678
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 2: Fault Matt canada for not having varied experience across the.

679
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 2: Country and now for him to come in to That

680
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 2: maryland team WITH i think an interesting personnel group provided

681
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,879
Speaker 2: they can stay. Healthy oh my, god TY i am

682
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 2: secretly very excited about what he can do BECAUSE i

683
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 2: think it's a really good. Fit, OKAY i think it's

684
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 2: a good fit because what's his, Stick Matt?

685
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: Canada the fly sweep, action the motion, Right, yeah a

686
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of, motions a lot of trying

687
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:51,919
Speaker 1: to stretch linebackers to open things.

688
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 2: Up maybe it's that the motions creating emotion for.

689
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:55,439
Speaker 1: ME i don't.

690
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 2: Know but got a lot of guys moving around pre,

691
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 2: snap tries to create. Confusion he loves the jet sweep

692
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 2: to fall that, stuff, right trying to stretch your defense

693
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 2: outside to side to create opportunities down the. Field WHAT

694
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 2: i like about the Setup Dan Borton Schlager definitely Not,

695
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:16,919
Speaker 2: bortschlager definitely not. That. Okay the offense has a bunch

696
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 2: of guys with good speed who can make you. Miss

697
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 2: true Ty, Johnson anthony, McFarlane Dj. Turner Matt canada is

698
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 2: gonna be in a position where he can try out

699
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 2: some different stuff this year because of these. Guys the

700
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:36,399
Speaker 2: caveat is Health. Maryland everybody got hurt From maryland last.

701
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 2: Year they, did and we're not fully going to know

702
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 2: the health Of, Tyrrell Pigram Cassim hill at quarterback till

703
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 2: like later in the. Year they're not going to do

704
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 2: anything the. Spring both of them tore acls last. Year

705
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 2: the offensive line might be healthier later in the. Year

706
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,919
Speaker 2: if this all comes, together it's going to happen late.

707
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:57,280
Speaker 2: Summer it's gonna happen all at, once assuming good. Health

708
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 2: it seems Like Matt canada could build a, sneaky dangerous

709
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 2: ground attack here At maryland with a lot of guys

710
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:06,919
Speaker 2: that have interesting skill.

711
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 1: Sets So maryland is on a winning streak Against texas

712
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: and they opened up the season with. THEM i believe

713
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: it's at home In College. Park the good news about their,

714
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: Schedule AND i think there's some merit to what you're,

715
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: saying Because Penn state's defense should be a step, worse,

716
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 1: yes sure than where they Were Ohio. STATE i mean

717
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: they closed the season With Ohio state And Penn. State

718
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: But Ohio state has had this other worldly pass rush

719
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: that probably won't be quite the, same but they've recruited

720
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: at such a crazy high level that maybe it'll be

721
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: that way by the end of the. Season but big,

722
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:36,919
Speaker 1: picture we're not going to do any sort of deep

723
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: dive Into maryland. Schedule they do not have until That

724
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: Ohio State Penn state at the end of the season

725
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: two real tough games in a row at any, point

726
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,240
Speaker 1: so hopefully things don't get. Compounded hopefully they have bounced

727
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 1: back opportunities if things go, wrong if there are, injuries

728
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: hopefully their minor if they, Exist maryland should be in

729
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: an okay place with a promising offensive. COORDINATOR i think

730
00:38:58,640 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: that's a good pick.

731
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 2: TIME i THINK i think that will be a tremendously

732
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 2: fascinating story to.

733
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 1: Watch, yeah that's sort of under the.

734
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 2: RADAR i would imagine bull Threat maryland definitely definitely all,

735
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 2: right where are you going by Low.

736
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go With, texas not, Necessarily, Yeah i'm jumping

737
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: on the tile to Rent texas.

738
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 2: Horse are you saying That texas is Still texas or

739
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 2: will return to Being texas Under Tom, HERMAN.

740
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: I am saying the. Following i'm, saying in terms of

741
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: things they can't, Control texas is in a pretty good.

742
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 1: Spot in terms of things they have been able to control,

743
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: personnel namely young. Personnel, recruiting they've controlled it very. Well

744
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: they were able to hold on to perhaps their most important,

745
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 1: recruit and that is Keeping Todd. Orlando they give him

746
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 1: a sizeable. Bonus and we saw the second half of

747
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: you know what that defense looked. Like it was something

748
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 1: called it was light it was a lightning. DEFENSE i

749
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: forget it was lightning dime whatever it. Was they like

750
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 1: kept five or six DB's on the field the whole,

751
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 1: time and Ordinarily i'd be pretty. Worried No Holton, hill

752
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 1: No Deshaun, elliott No Puna ford up. Front we loved

753
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 1: what do we call, him the mini, Fridge jini. Fridge,

754
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 1: yeah but they recruited well. Enough and Brecken hager's still.

755
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,720
Speaker 1: There Gary, johnson whose name sounds like he's a state?

756
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 1: Comtroller do states have? Controllers is it a county? Thing they?

757
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 2: Could Gary johnson ran for, president.

758
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,479
Speaker 1: That's, True that's why the name is so. Familiar, yeah

759
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 1: but there's a ton of talent and that's the position

760
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: of the. Position group of strength last year in the

761
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 1: recruiting class was DEFENSIVE, bac namely. Safety so they bring

762
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: in a ton of talent. There Herb hand comes in

763
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 1: to coach the offensive. LINE i know they got the

764
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,240
Speaker 1: grad transfer the big offensive. Lineman even with Losing Connor.

765
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 1: Williams i'm worried about the offensive. Line they have crazy

766
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 1: talent talent or maybe crazy talent Options at, Quarterback i'm

767
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: still worried about quarterback Four, texas but they add in

768
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 1: two blue chip quarters that are early. Enrollees SO i

769
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: don't think they're going to stick with any one guy

770
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: if it's not working out In. September because that's what

771
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 1: we've seen from This Tim beck And Tom herman. Offense

772
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: the thing that they can't control that is. Advantageous look

773
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: at the big twelve quarterback situation outside Of, texas it's not.

774
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 1: Wonderful Mason Rudolph Oklahoma state. Gone Baker, mayfield generational quarterback

775
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,760
Speaker 1: for The sooners. Gone where's he? Gone? Yeah Kyler murray

776
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: will probably be fun and, exciting but we don't. Know

777
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: we don't, know and he had some off field issues At.

778
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 1: TEXAS a and m are really on field issues with

779
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 1: dealing with coaches and discipline At TEXAS a AND m

780
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 1: that we hope doesn't rear its ugly head again In.

781
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:48,879
Speaker 1: Norman but that's An oklahoma team that defensively they can

782
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 1: be had a little bit, ty and they lost big

783
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: pieces on that side of the. Ball, Okay, Taylor i'm

784
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: not going to be super excited ABOUT tcu is going

785
00:41:56,200 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: to have a new quarterback situation WITH Qb frogs whatever he's.

786
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: Gone Sean ROBINSON i, like but it's a, question and

787
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: it's a real.

788
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 2: Question my question About, texas, though, yes is they have

789
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 2: some turnover on.

790
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 1: Defense.

791
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 2: Correct how Will Todd orlando deal with? That you, Know

792
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 2: Malik jefferson leaving for THE nfl. Enormous they need some

793
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 2: leadership on that, defense which sometimes takes a few weeks to.

794
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 2: Materialize it does, help, though to your point that quarterback

795
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 2: as a whole in The big twelve is very much

796
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 2: a position of.

797
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: NEED i think they should be able to Eat. MARYLAND

798
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: i think they should be able to start a new

799
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: winning streak Against maryland and because of this. Defense what

800
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: strange to me About, texas which is Why i'm not

801
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 1: fully on. Board But i'm buying low in terms of.

802
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 1: Improvement they go seven and six last year thanks to

803
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: a bowl. WIN i think it was Against missouri and

804
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: The Texas. Bowl the thing THAT i like About texas

805
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 1: is that. Defense the thing and quarterback depth frankly at this,

806
00:42:56,200 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: point but the thing that confuses. Me they don't have arunning. Back,

807
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 1: no they. DON'T i don't know how The Texas longhorns,

808
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: ever don't have three dudes who you're, like who's gonna

809
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: get the? Ball there's so much talent since don to

810
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 1: forman a couple of years, ago it just seems like

811
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: the running back depth. CHART i know there's there's promising

812
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: guys on certain, levels but they should it should look

813
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 1: like you know what LSU's running back depth chart has looked.

814
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 1: Like it should look like What alabama's has looked. Like

815
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: there's just too much talent there for there ever to

816
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 1: be a question of Does texas have a guy that

817
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 1: seems so weird to? Me so that'll be interesting to

818
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 1: me and see what Herb hand's influence is as he's

819
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: his running games have been very good everywhere he's. GONE

820
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: i know people haven't liked his past protection at. Times

821
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 1: Pence state Nit neylon, fans But I'm i'm so curious

822
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,240
Speaker 1: to see why this is not happening and if anybody

823
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: actually steps up and if they're able to find that. Person,

824
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: Yeah texas could win eight or nine, games, Absolutely.

825
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 2: SO i am sensing AND i am tipped off a

826
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 2: little bit to this Because i've got it in front of.

827
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 2: Me But i'm, sensing based on what you said regarding

828
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 2: The Big twelve and Specifically, oklahoma that while you're buying

829
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 2: low On, texas you have sufficient reason to sell high On.

830
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 2: Oklahoma and it's in front of. Me SO i know

831
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 2: that's a, Selection but why are you why are you

832
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 2: inclined to sell high On oklahoma?

833
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 1: Now So i'll be clear about, THIS i am holding

834
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: on to all of My Lincoln riley, Stock, OKAY i

835
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,720
Speaker 1: am selling high On oklahoma right now BECAUSE i don't

836
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 1: know if people fully appreciate how Great Baker mayfield. Was

837
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 1: i'm Sure oklahoma fans, do but within the context of

838
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 1: This oklahoma program FROM, afar he was. Incredible And oklahoma's

839
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 1: had incredible guys in the, past And Jason white And Sam,

840
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 1: bradford but there was something About Baker mayfield that he

841
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: was he over he basically single handedly overcame so. Much you,

842
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 1: know you lose Ded, westbrook no, problem you lose you,

843
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: know the two great running backs that they had In

844
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: joe Mixon'smaj PRO, i no. Problem Ronnie anderson steps. Up

845
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: But Baker mayfield running that offense was such a high

846
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: degree of football beauty that even If Kyler murray is pretty,

847
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: good there are so many questions about this defense who,

848
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 1: Lost like the actual two good. Pieces the pass rushers

849
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: that they had were so leaky and it didn't really

850
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,760
Speaker 1: matter until like the final eighteen seconds of The georgia,

851
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 1: game THAT i think without that talent on, offense and

852
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: the fact That Lincoln riley is still coaching a staff

853
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: that he didn't really, hire it's it's still sort of

854
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 1: a holdover, situation so it's not really his full, vision it.

855
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 1: Seems once he gets to that, POINT i Think i'm

856
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 1: going to be all. In this is just selling high

857
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: On oklahoma as a playoff contenency because that's where they've.

858
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: Been SO i See oklahoma as a top twenty team right.

859
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 1: Now but if they finish the, season you, know seventeen,

860
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 1: eighteen nineteen in the in the in any of the,

861
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 1: rankings then that will seem about right considering what they've

862
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: had to turn.

863
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 2: OVER i think we're actually of one mind on this.

864
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:12,439
Speaker 2: ISSUE i didn't Go, oklahoma but my reasoning is very very.

865
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 2: Similar as you, know there are a lot of reasons

866
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 2: you can sell high on, something and not all of

867
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 2: them are because you think something's going to instantly, tank,

868
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 2: Right especially on this, show we don't always like to

869
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 2: highlight the. Negative we try to look at things. Positively,

870
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:31,439
Speaker 2: yeah And i'm not going to root for. Anything there's

871
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,399
Speaker 2: a ton positive About. Oklahoma oh, Yeah, yeah, Absolutely i'm

872
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 2: just not going to root for anything to instantly. Tank

873
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 2: the other reason that you can sell high IS i

874
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 2: think for the reason that you're Going oklahoma. Here sometimes

875
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 2: you just want to cash in your chips when you've

876
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 2: got a. Profit, sure, yeah been on a. Heater that's

877
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 2: sort of HOW i feel WITH ucf right.

878
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: Now in their.

879
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:54,280
Speaker 2: Offense, sure their offense led the nation last year forty

880
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 2: eight points per, game which is, incredible second only Two

881
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 2: oklahoma in yards per.

882
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: Play the numbers were ridiculous off the.

883
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 2: Charts now they brought in another offensive minded guy In

884
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 2: Josh Houppel Hoypool oklahoma connection by the, Way, yeah to

885
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 2: run the program Because Scott frost went up To. Nebraska my,

886
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 2: question and the one THAT i think ultimately led me

887
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 2: in this, direction is how much better can they really

888
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 2: get an? Offense, Sure i'm not selling BECAUSE i think

889
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 2: it all goes off the, cliff But Mackenzie milton thirty

890
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 2: seven touchdowns over four thousand. Yards the offensive line has

891
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 2: a lot coming, back plenty of talent at running. Back

892
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 2: defense maybe an, issue but we're not talking about defense.

893
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 2: Here there's a lot of firepower on, offense And i'm

894
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 2: sure they'll be very. Good i'm just not nearly as

895
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 2: fired up About hoypol as i Am Scott. Frost maybe

896
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 2: it's a me. THING i don't, know But i'm just

897
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 2: wondering how much better it could possibly.

898
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: Get it stopped me when you get to WHEN i

899
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: get to a defense that is ON ucf. Schedule AND

900
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: i don't disagree with what you're, saying BUT i think

901
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 1: it might be hard to discern because they bring back

902
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 1: such a good quarterback and you, know a roster of

903
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 1: players that have succeeded on such a high level in

904
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:20,760
Speaker 1: terms of. Production Yukon South Carolina, State North CAROLINA, fau

905
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: WHICH i mean THAT i cannot wait for that. Game,

906
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 1: yeah That's september twenty First, PITT, Smu, MEMPHIS, Ecu, Temple, Navy,

907
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 1: cincinnati MAYBE. Usf. NO i like USF's, defense but there's

908
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 1: nobody that jumps out immediately as, Like, okay that's gonna

909
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 1: be a big. Test. Yeah, no you're coming off a

910
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 1: win Against auburn against moving the ball Against. Auburn granted

911
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: a bowl, game but same. Players this wasn't An AUBURN

912
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: b TEAM i. LIKE i like THE ucf.

913
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:58,320
Speaker 2: Team this, offense led By Mackenzie milton in the passing

914
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 2: game was that something like ten point two yards per?

915
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,879
Speaker 2: Attempt to very much a big play, team all. RIGHT

916
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 2: i just don't know how much better they can? Do,

917
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 2: sure and SO i am. Inclined IF i am an

918
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 2: investor here to take my profits and, RUN i will

919
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 2: root FOR youcf to win a second consecutive national. Championship mind,

920
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 2: you will you make me a?

921
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: Promise depends on the, Promise but all season, long will

922
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: you call their Coach josh hoitpol instead Of, hypel Which

923
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 1: i'm pretty sure It's Hypel Josh.

924
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 2: HOIL i could do that for. You, Yeah i'm an

925
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 2: enormous fan thank, You and that brings us to our final.

926
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 2: Question then we've got a wild card question in. Here

927
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,320
Speaker 2: we both reached into the, hat both reached deep into

928
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:46,240
Speaker 2: the dark corners of our minds to find a wild

929
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 2: card question that didn't really fit into any of these.

930
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 2: Categories correct or maybe in my case it sort of.

931
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 2: Did what's your wild card? Question now as we enter, Spring.

932
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 1: So we've reached the, point AND i think pretty. Fairly

933
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: and as we've seen coaches evolve throughout the, years knowing

934
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: that they don't have all that much, time they could be.

935
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 1: Fired you know two years after reaching a national championship

936
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: game that there is more and more pressure to get

937
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 1: the best players on the, field regardless of, age regardless of. Experience,

938
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: okay and we've seen situations really work. Out you, Know

939
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 1: Deshaun watson coming in Against georgia and Replacing Cole stout

940
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 1: as a true freshman in his very first. Game you,

941
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 1: Know Cole stout had the you, know got a couple more,

942
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 1: games But Deshaun watson eventually took the reins and held

943
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: on to that job as long as he wanted it

944
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:36,959
Speaker 1: and to attack of aaloa in The National championship, game

945
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 1: coming in in the second half and. Starting What i'm curious,

946
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 1: about and this Includes, alabama but not fully because we

947
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,760
Speaker 1: know What tua is. Is we have two high profile,

948
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 1: schools the two best incoming freshmen are being tied to

949
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 1: stories like could he win this? Battle as true early

950
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 1: and roly true. Freshmen i'm talking About Justin fields At.

951
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 1: GEORGIA i know that sounds, preposterous And i'm with, you

952
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 1: it does sound. Preposterous And Trevor lawrence At clemson With Kelly,

953
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 1: bryant who let us, Remember Kelly bryant led his team

954
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,320
Speaker 1: to The College Football playoff and won THE acc in

955
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 1: his first year starting at, quarterback which is pretty damn.

956
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 1: Good he was awful Against, alabama but the totality of

957
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 1: his work WAS i would, say very. IMPRESSIVE i am

958
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:27,320
Speaker 1: curious to what extent in every case is going to be,

959
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 1: different but to what extent these high profile and as

960
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 1: quarterbacks come into college football more and more prepared because

961
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 1: it's now a year round sport playing quarterback and just

962
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 1: look more and more polished earlier, On are we actually

963
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 1: going to have a quarterback battle at these? Places because

964
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 1: the ceiling of these freshmen and these, again our freshmen

965
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 1: that we know nothing about in terms of readiness for

966
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: high level college. Football Like jake fromm was, Awesome he

967
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:02,359
Speaker 1: was flat out. Awesome Could Justin fields be better than

968
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 1: flat out? Awesome maybe? Eventually? Sure who. Knows people seem

969
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: to think he has the talent. Too Could Trevor lawrence

970
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:15,240
Speaker 1: be better than a playoff getting two? Quarterback? Yeah? Maybe? Probably,

971
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:19,399
Speaker 1: yeah but that's already a question in the. Spring as

972
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:23,240
Speaker 1: you look around college, football these, top, top top level

973
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 1: guys coming in because of success recent success of true

974
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 1: freshmen Like tutangueavaloa And Deshaun watson a couple of years

975
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:37,320
Speaker 1: ago at At. Clemson should we take these battles? Seriously

976
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 1: as you, Know Kirby smart And Davils twenny have you,

977
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 1: know the most job security outside Of Nick. Saban, probably

978
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 1: but things can turn and they don't seem to be.

979
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 1: AFRAID i am fascinated with the fact that these freshmen

980
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: are probably going to get pretty serious, looks which is. Crazy.

981
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 2: YEAH i, mean talk about two guys who have really

982
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 2: been highly sought. After we've heard about both of, them

983
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:09,919
Speaker 2: both of them for years. Now And Justin fields At

984
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 2: georgia to me is something THAT i find a bit confounding.

985
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:15,240
Speaker 1: That there's some off the charts confidence.

986
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 2: There oh there really is for him to go To

987
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 2: georgia at, all to me was a questionable decision given

988
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:25,240
Speaker 2: the success That Jake from, had and ESPECIALLY i think

989
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 2: given What Kirby smart was witnessed to At, alabama a

990
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 2: lot of quarterbacks that were similar To Jake from, right

991
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 2: a guy who can go out there and be at

992
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 2: least to start a little bit more than a game

993
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:42,839
Speaker 2: manager and still take a team to incredible. Heights Jake

994
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 2: fromb's only going to continue to, improve even if he

995
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 2: doesn't have quite the skill set of a guy Like Justin.

996
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 1: Fields. MAN i Love jake From i'm not a bad.

997
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 2: Option he's a really good. Option he got them into

998
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 2: The national. Championship, yeah he almost won The national Champions.

999
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: And he wasn't just handing the ball, off and he

1000
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: wasn't just shown. Down we're going down field accurately and.

1001
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 2: Confidently when the season started And Jacob eason got, hurt,

1002
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 2: yeah everyone expected That from who was a true freshman

1003
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 2: in his own ride a year, ago would come in

1004
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 2: there and be a game. Manager he would hand the

1005
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 2: ball off To Sony michelle And Nick chubb they would

1006
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 2: win with, defense and for a while that is sort

1007
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 2: of what they. Did but he got better and it

1008
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 2: became more apparent as the year wore. On this is

1009
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 2: a kid who can make all the. Throws he wasn't

1010
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 2: turning the ball. Over he was very efficient with the.

1011
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 2: Football and it WAS i think that propensity to stay within,

1012
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 2: himself to not make mistakes that Got georgia to the

1013
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 2: playoff and to The national champ day again almost won

1014
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 2: the national. Championship how do you do much better than?

1015
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: THAT i don't, Know And i'm curious because there is,

1016
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 1: this you, know Because georgia's recruited so, well we'll stick

1017
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 1: With georgia because they haven't won the national championship recently

1018
00:54:56,080 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 1: Like clemson. Has but If jake prom, struggles how much

1019
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 1: of you, know how much amnesia Is Kirby smart willing to? Endure,

1020
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 1: yeah to, say you, know he's not great right, now

1021
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 1: but we've seen, him you, know over the course of

1022
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 1: a season get his act together and improve and turn

1023
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 1: into a you, know a top ten quarterback in the.

1024
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 1: Country i'm curious to, see you. Know and that'll also

1025
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 1: depend on justin fields and the rest of the depth.

1026
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:27,320
Speaker 1: Chart but how much belief given the pressure That Kirby

1027
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 1: smart will be under to win and be a nationally

1028
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:34,439
Speaker 1: contending team year in and year, out will he sort

1029
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:36,320
Speaker 1: of look back At Justin fields and wonder if he

1030
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 1: Should AND i don't. THINK i don't Think Davos swiney

1031
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:41,720
Speaker 1: is under quite that. Pressure, no because. ISN'T i don't

1032
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 1: think that there's a belief That Kelly bryant is you,

1033
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 1: know you hate the, comparison BUT i don't think people

1034
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 1: believe he Is Deshaun watson in terms of what he

1035
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,799
Speaker 1: can look like at his absolute, Best WHEREAS i think

1036
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 1: there is the belief because, again the most popular player

1037
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 1: on a squad is the backup quarterback who's nobody's seen.

1038
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 1: Throw but the belief That Trevor lawrence could Be Deshaun,

1039
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 1: WATSON i think right now is more.

1040
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 2: ROBUST i would agree with. YOU i Think Kelly bryan

1041
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 2: is probably more. Susceptible, yeah at this, POINT i think that's.

1042
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 2: Right i'm also going, to, yeah what's your wildcard the

1043
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:20,839
Speaker 2: quarterback side of? Things WHEN i asked the, Question, dan

1044
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:24,240
Speaker 2: what Does Wilton spate do in twenty?

1045
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 1: Eighteen is he waiting On Shaye patterson and the. Decision

1046
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:30,720
Speaker 1: is that what's, Happening.

1047
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 2: Well it's fascinating to. Me there's like game THEORY i

1048
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 2: think here With Wilton. Spate first, off if you hear

1049
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 2: this and reflexively wonder how old Is Wilton, spate that's

1050
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,800
Speaker 2: a fair, Question. Dan he turns twenty four In. December

1051
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 2: he is technically a grad transfer candidate this, season and

1052
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 2: it's just it's interesting on a bunch of different. Levels All,

1053
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 2: right he can be a grad transfer if he wants,

1054
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 2: to and it sounds like he's interested in kicking the

1055
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 2: tires finding out what's available to.

1056
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:06,320
Speaker 1: Him but it also all right, now, Ty.

1057
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:09,319
Speaker 2: Yeah it also feels like he'd really like to come

1058
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 2: back To michigan and give it one more, go but

1059
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 2: only if there's a job for him at. Quarterback and

1060
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 2: that's where it gets a little, muddy because you may

1061
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 2: or may not have heard of the Whole Shape patterson

1062
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 2: thing and how that comes into. Play But Shaye patterson

1063
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 2: transferring away From ole Miss good quarterback just completed his

1064
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 2: sophomore season At Ole Miss good quarterback transferring away and

1065
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 2: out Of oxford because of the fallout from The Hugh freeze. Firing,

1066
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 2: normally when you transfer away you have to sit out a,

1067
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 2: year that's the. Rule but he filed the case with THE.

1068
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 2: Ncaa he says he should be able to play right

1069
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 2: away because he was, misled correct misled about the severity

1070
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 2: of the sanctions that were coming down Against old miss

1071
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 2: after the Whole Hugh freeze.

1072
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 1: Thing he's got a.

1073
00:57:56,600 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 2: Case his lawyers are encouraged at least by the reaction

1074
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 2: and the line of questioning that he's gotten from the NC.

1075
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 2: Doublea But michigan just put this waiver in at THE

1076
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 2: i think end Of. February there is really no telling

1077
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 2: when the official verdict is gonna come, down, Right so

1078
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 2: at this point when we're doing the show in Early,

1079
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 2: april it seems, promising but, frankly we don't.

1080
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 1: Know, yeah and And michigan has. Options this is not a.

1081
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 1: Binary it's not one or the.

1082
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 2: Other because a side Of Welton, spate who maybe could

1083
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 2: stay if you, wanted and a side Of Shaye. Patterson

1084
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 2: you've also Got Brandon, peters who we saw a little

1085
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 2: bit of at the end of the year last.

1086
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 1: Year what a roller coaster of The Brandon peters. Experience

1087
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 1: starting out with it was like, OOH i, wonder like

1088
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 1: oh my, god is? He and then it was oh, no, no, no, no,

1089
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 1: no no, no.

1090
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 2: It was still a young, kid right still only absolutely,

1091
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 2: yes he.

1092
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:58,919
Speaker 1: Was he was thrust into a situation as a third

1093
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 1: string that he was not fully ready.

1094
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 2: For and then there's Also dylan McCaffrey who's got a

1095
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 2: little bit of status and name recognition because his, brother

1096
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 2: his older Brother christian obviously was all ruled everything At.

1097
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 2: Stanford so he's another, guy a highly, regarded highly recruited

1098
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 2: quarterback who opted to play For Jim.

1099
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 1: Harbaugh, yes and the wildest of cards in this stepth,

1100
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 1: CHART i.

1101
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 2: Think, oh so nobody knows for. Sure, again just to,

1102
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 2: recap when THE ncaa is going to make their ruling

1103
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 2: On Shape, PATTERSON i think if he can play right,

1104
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:37,479
Speaker 2: away he's probably the. Guy is that? Fair Wilton spate

1105
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 2: is not better Than Shape, patterson?

1106
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 1: RIGHT i think? SO i think in terms of, ceiling

1107
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 1: in terms of because of what This michigan team returns

1108
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 1: on both sides of the, Ball Shape patterson is the

1109
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 1: most ready to win A Big ten.

1110
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 2: Championship, yes but If Shape patterson isn't allowed to, play

1111
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 2: there's clearly a clearer path For Wilton. Spate it might

1112
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 2: be of a controversial decision For Jim, harbaugh but you,

1113
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 2: know like that's when you get into what makes sense

1114
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:10,479
Speaker 2: for the. Program Because harbaugh's probably more comfortable With, spad

1115
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 2: he's had more time with. Him it's just That michigan

1116
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 2: needs a lot more production at the quarterback. Position right,

1117
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 2: then they've gotten over the last couple of, years which

1118
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 2: did Include Wilton spate to some, degree and so at

1119
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 2: that point then we're talking, like all, right, well could

1120
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 2: he turn it over To Brandon, peters who we saw

1121
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 2: a little bit last year towards the end, again could

1122
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 2: we maybe go young and fresh with this thing With

1123
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 2: dylan McCaffrey, again one of the top quarterbacks in the

1124
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 2: nation out of high. School really no guarantees on any

1125
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 2: side of the. Coin, dan if You're Wilton.

1126
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 1: Spate what do you?

1127
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 2: Do?

1128
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 1: Man don't go To. Pitt don't do, it don't do.

1129
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 1: That don't go To. Pitt, yeah that's just sort of

1130
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 1: seems like a mess right. NOW i don't, KNOW i

1131
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 1: honestly don't. KNOW i, mean the UCLA's depth chart isn't

1132
01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 1: wonderful at. Quarterback if it's a one year, thing he

1133
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 1: could run an. OFFENSE i, mean he's not going to

1134
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 1: run A Chip kelly blur running quarterback. Offense are they

1135
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 1: going to get him outside the? Tackles but could he

1136
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 1: Be Nick foles For Chip kelly in near one with The? Eagles?

1137
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 2: Maybe, MAYBE i JUST i guess it depends on your.

1138
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 2: Goal if you want to, play if you think you

1139
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 2: can play in THE, nfl like a lot OF d

1140
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 2: one kids.

1141
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:21,960
Speaker 1: Do he's got the. Side the physical traits are there

1142
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 1: for the physical traits are.

1143
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 2: There if you think you can play in the, league

1144
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 2: you gotta go somewhere where you get surefire playing. Time,

1145
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 2: yeah and there there's a real good chance at that

1146
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 2: place for him is Not. Michigan so if that is the,

1147
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 2: goal then you got to you gotta take advantage of

1148
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 2: your transfer card and go. Elsewhere if that, ISN'T i

1149
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 2: think that's. Right if you just Like, michigan you want

1150
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 2: a Quarterback, michigan you Think michigan's, close you're more inclined

1151
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 2: to just stick around where you think you can win right,

1152
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 2: now then maybe maybe you hang around. Again the Shape

1153
01:01:56,560 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 2: patterson thing is very much in. Flux he got guy

1154
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 2: In Brandon, peters, who like you, said was up and

1155
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 2: Down dylan McCaffrey a great. Unknown if if you really Like,

1156
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 2: michigan then you stick around and you you, know hope

1157
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:12,680
Speaker 2: That Jim harbaugh's comfort level with you is enough to

1158
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 2: get you the.

1159
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 1: Job but OTHERWISE i think you got to go. Elsewhere,

1160
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 1: Yeah i'm trying to look at who else you know

1161
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 1: could use a quality grad transfer Like Wilton spate would be. Wazoo.

1162
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 2: UH i don't.

1163
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:27,080
Speaker 1: Know is he that good of a? THROWER i think

1164
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 1: he can. BE i think what he was asked to

1165
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:32,439
Speaker 1: do was not great these past couple of years At,

1166
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 1: michigan and obviously he had injury, Issues SO.

1167
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 2: I, MEAN i don't know the other thing, Too when

1168
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:39,800
Speaker 2: you talk about a grad, transfer this is not Like Russell.

1169
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 1: Wilson, Correct this is not a sure thing right going.

1170
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 2: In, yeah like you knew With Russell wilson that no

1171
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:49,440
Speaker 2: one expected him to be as successful At wisconsin as

1172
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 2: he ended up, being but you at least had a

1173
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 2: little bit more data on what he did AT Nc

1174
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 2: state to feel, Like, okay it's probably going to work

1175
01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:59,920
Speaker 2: out to some. Degree Wilton spate's been hurt even when he.

1176
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 2: Played it wasn't like all puppy dogs and ice cream,

1177
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 2: here So i'm not sure he's quite a known quantity

1178
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 2: the way we've seen some of these other guys been

1179
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 2: in the, past even Like Ryan finley was more of

1180
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 2: a known quantity.

1181
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:16,959
Speaker 1: Definitely you know who. LISTEN i don't Know wake's depth

1182
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 1: chart at, quarterback but with how The wolford wagon developed

1183
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 1: this past, year all, right and he's FROM i think

1184
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 1: well In spain is From, virginia so if it's on

1185
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 1: The atlantic, COAST i don't. Know i'd like to be

1186
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 1: involved with the clo fense. TIE i don't know about, You,

1187
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 1: Okay i'd flirt.

1188
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:38,919
Speaker 2: So again just to recap here a fun show black

1189
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 2: in some actual.

1190
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 1: Football it's been a. WHILE i talked about it a lot.

1191
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 2: Again Dan, mullen is he a quarterback, away talked about

1192
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 2: the quarterback AT, lsu talked About Matt canada At, maryland

1193
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:53,560
Speaker 2: THE ucf, offense And Wilton spain on my, end and

1194
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:55,919
Speaker 2: you were asking all sorts of questions About charles Chip

1195
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 2: kelly To Florida, state what do they do at Quarterback

1196
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 2: texas potentially getting back to Being texas or at.

1197
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 1: Least find a running back people being.

1198
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 2: More texas in light of the quarterback turnover in The

1199
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 2: big Twelve, Yep, oklahoma how they fit into this whole,

1200
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 2: mess and then two really intriguing quarterback battles that could sprout,

1201
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 2: up both At georgia And.

1202
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 1: Clemson i'm, Excited, Ty i'm excited FOR i don't, know

1203
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 1: just guessing about things the rest of the spring and

1204
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 1: summer Because i'm so bad at. That that's what we,

1205
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 1: are very bad at. It BUT i like hearing your,

1206
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 1: voice so we're going to keep doing it all.

1207
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 2: Right well, again just a reminder if you're finding us

1208
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 2: for the first, Time, hello, Welcome thank you for listening this.

1209
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:43,840
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1210
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:45,000
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1211
01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:48,520
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1212
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1213
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:54,600
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1214
01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:57,440
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1215
01:04:57,480 --> 01:05:00,520
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1216
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 2: gmail dot. Com let us know what's on your. Mind

1217
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 2: it's a long college football off. Season we promise you

1218
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 2: we're gonna be here each and every week talking about.

1219
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 1: Whatever we can think.

1220
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 2: Up if you've got topic, suggestions send him on Into

1221
01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:16,920
Speaker 2: sure we are a year round college football extravaganza. Celebration

1222
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 2: if you, Will, DAN.

1223
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 1: I, will.

1224
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 2: So how much long are you down In? Florida another?

1225
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:27,560
Speaker 1: Day, basically so we're recording this On wednesday, evening coming

1226
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 1: back To New york Womp thursday. Evening, Okay And i'm

1227
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:35,919
Speaker 1: gonna miss the. Sun, Tie i'm gonna miss that, sun

1228
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:37,480
Speaker 1: But i'm eating. Well life is.

1229
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:40,320
Speaker 2: Good all, Right, Well i'm gonna let you. GO i

1230
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:42,439
Speaker 2: want you to go enjoy every waking hour you can

1231
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:44,360
Speaker 2: in the warm, weather because when you come.

1232
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 1: Back to wash this saltwater off.

1233
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,120
Speaker 2: Me, tie when you come, back it's gonna be a

1234
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:50,560
Speaker 2: little bit, chilly and maybe you will snowy this weekend

1235
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 2: here in The East.

1236
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 1: Coast, OKAY i accept that.

1237
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 2: For that guy over, there my good Friend Dan rubinstein

1238
01:05:57,560 --> 01:06:00,280
Speaker 2: in Sunny, florida for, Myself Tie hill To brandon bus,

1239
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:04,280
Speaker 2: Three Eastern. Pennsylvania thanks again for tuning into the solid.

1240
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:05,880
Speaker 2: Verbal we'll catch you all in a. Week in the,

1241
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 2: meantime stay solid.

1242
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:09,680
Speaker 1: Peace who