WEBVTT - Player's Lounge: Upper Echelon 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:04.320 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.320 --> 0:00:05.920 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:08.240 --> 0:00:09.200 Cowboys. 0:00:10.760 --> 0:00:16.040 This is the Player's Lounge, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys 0:00:16.120 --> 0:00:21.560 World headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts Barry Church, 0:00:21.920 --> 0:00:24.880 Heckma Harrison, and Newie Scruggs. 0:00:26.720 --> 0:00:29.680 Here we are Players Lounge. It is a Wednesday. 0:00:29.800 --> 0:00:32.360 Everybody had new Strugge along with heck Ma Harrison, former 0:00:32.520 --> 0:00:37.000 Cowboys safety Barry Church. Yes, sir, lots to get to 0:00:37.120 --> 0:00:39.520 the Cowboys get ready to face the Tampa Bay Buccaneers 0:00:39.560 --> 0:00:44.640 on NBC Sunday Night Football. Jerry World, Jerry World, I've 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:49.680 been kind of Cowboys this year. I've been kind. So 0:00:50.000 --> 0:00:51.960 I asked Brandon Cooks about that in locker room day, 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:54.920 and Brandon Cooks echoes. 0:00:55.000 --> 0:00:58.440 Something that Clarence Hill has been saying was that. 0:01:00.800 --> 0:01:08.440 They played some really good teams here and that. 0:01:08.200 --> 0:01:12.400 We want to hear that in the league, like the league. 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:17.119 When does it come like that at all? 0:01:18.160 --> 0:01:21.000 Come excuse we don't play some good teams. 0:01:21.560 --> 0:01:25.280 Everybody good in the league. Man, Man, We go ahead, man, 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:25.680 go ahead. 0:01:25.680 --> 0:01:27.479 This is just crazy to me, but go ahead, man, 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:30.199 So you. 0:01:30.120 --> 0:01:33.720 Hear this and let's go down the list, and you 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:38.520 tell me if they would have won at their place. Okay, 0:01:39.040 --> 0:01:42.679 the Saints forty four to nineteen. Now we know the 0:01:42.680 --> 0:01:47.520 Saints are bad teams, not good cars out for the year, 0:01:47.920 --> 0:01:50.040 but when they got you, they got you forty four 0:01:50.080 --> 0:01:50.960 to nine, smacked. 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:53.080 So they went to the super Dome. Do you think 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:55.520 you would have done better? The spack you guys would 0:01:55.520 --> 0:01:58.840 have been a smack there, right, smacking? Okay, neutral sight, 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:02.960 so so so yeah, so so the Saints being like, hey, yeah, 0:02:02.960 --> 0:02:04.720 they beat you and the season's not turned out good, 0:02:04.960 --> 0:02:08.680 not good. The Ravens, oh, then they would have got Yeah, 0:02:08.760 --> 0:02:11.360 it would have been just as bad at the Bank Okay, okay, 0:02:11.440 --> 0:02:14.280 Ravens and the Ravens at this point time, we would agreed, 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:18.240 this is a playoff team, should be the playoffs. Oh yeah. 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:22.680 The next home game Detroit, Yeah, you'd got it forty seven, Yeah, 0:02:22.680 --> 0:02:24.000 you would have got it. You'd have got it there, 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:26.560 you'd have got it at home and neutral site it 0:02:26.600 --> 0:02:27.280 would have been. 0:02:27.560 --> 0:02:28.360 It would have been bad. 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:35.960 Okay. Philadelphia thirty four to six at home? Oh yeah, yeah. 0:02:36.000 --> 0:02:38.920 The link right now. 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:41.880 Number one team and you dude argue that they're the 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:46.280 best team in the NFC correct Detroit's injuries. Okay, then 0:02:46.360 --> 0:02:51.440 after that money had football Houston thirty four to ten. 0:02:53.040 --> 0:02:56.359 Yeah, you got it, you got it, got it Houston. 0:02:56.520 --> 0:02:58.280 At this point in time, we believe could be a 0:02:58.360 --> 0:03:01.079 team that makes playoff. Yes, you playoff for the show. Okay, 0:03:03.840 --> 0:03:08.040 Giants Thanksgiving Day, you beat them. They're able to smack 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:10.519 them in that life too. So you beat them. That's 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:13.239 your first home win. Second home win was was Cincinnati? 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:15.280 I mean, no obvious your second game after the try 0:03:15.320 --> 0:03:17.079 to get your second with Cincinnati you lost twenty seven 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:20.280 to twenty. These are the teams you've played so far, 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:26.440 and you've got the Bengals aren't making the playoffs, but 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:28.800 they beat you. It's a good team. They have good talent. 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:29.919 They have some talent. 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:34.760 We know the Giants are bad outside of the Saints. 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:37.520 I mean, it's not like you said, these are good teams. 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:38.400 You are a good team. 0:03:38.480 --> 0:03:41.040 These are these are pretty these are playoff teams. And 0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:45.160 if had you gone to their place, go to Baltimore. 0:03:46.640 --> 0:03:47.160 Okay. 0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:52.760 So so I hear your initial reaction, which is when 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:55.040 Claire said, at first he was, you know, let me 0:03:55.080 --> 0:03:57.960 go try to become you know, before I persecuted, let 0:03:58.000 --> 0:04:01.880 me go be a scientist and yeah, now you look 0:04:01.880 --> 0:04:06.160 at the road games or they've been winning on the road. Cleveland, Yeah, 0:04:06.200 --> 0:04:11.400 trash yam Okay, Giants, Yeah, Pittsburgh. 0:04:11.600 --> 0:04:14.480 That I was a good victory with Justin Fields. 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:16.760 Just let's a good victory. 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:20.880 Okay, lost in San Francisco thirty twenty four, ken Folk, Kirk. 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:23.920 Got him, which looking now, it's like, man, but you 0:04:24.000 --> 0:04:25.200 know it's like the Saints game. 0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:29.120 Yeah, that's true. It can handle us Innescy South. For 0:04:29.120 --> 0:04:33.240 some reason, you wanted Washington just over that. That was 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:36.760 a good victory, was Quinn. It came down to the end. 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:39.320 Boy made it interest he did. 0:04:39.480 --> 0:04:40.760 It's my chance, baby. 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:47.080 I believe that you activated and you got Carolina. So 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:49.359 so that that was that was what Cook stood by. 0:04:49.520 --> 0:04:49.680 Man. 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:52.359 This is crazy, man, because like y'all. 0:04:52.200 --> 0:04:55.080 Knew going into the season, you got a first play schedule. 0:04:55.680 --> 0:04:57.960 That's what happens when you you win the division. Before 0:04:58.040 --> 0:05:00.559 you come into that next year, you're playing all first teams. 0:05:00.720 --> 0:05:03.320 So you're gonna play against teams that are, you know, 0:05:03.440 --> 0:05:05.839 on the upper echelon of the National Football League. 0:05:06.279 --> 0:05:07.719 And you had you knew. 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:10.160 About this all the offseason going into the season. 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:13.360 We're playing a first play schedule, We're gonna have tough competition. 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:17.400 And before all the injuries started, you just rattled it off. 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:19.919 They didn't start fast. It ain't like they was killing 0:05:19.960 --> 0:05:23.240 before the injuries began. So to me, I mean, it's 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:25.080 just you just got to call it what it is. 0:05:25.279 --> 0:05:28.159 You know, excuses you went out there where they came 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:30.400 here and they beat us, as simple as that. 0:05:30.520 --> 0:05:33.120 This excuse or saying, you know, we played some good teams. 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:36.560 That's that's why I'm nah, man, that's never been an excuse. 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:37.120 Never. 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:39.800 So so you look at the first place teams from 0:05:39.880 --> 0:05:43.960 last year, Baltimore, they first play schedule. Okay, they got 0:05:44.000 --> 0:05:48.440 you the Detroit, yep, they they got you. San Francisco 0:05:49.720 --> 0:05:54.520 they got you. Houston another first week, they got got you. Man. 0:05:57.560 --> 0:05:59.160 I mean, I'm not looking for anybody to take it, 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:01.080 let them off the hook in this situation. 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:03.719 But the obvious is the obvious. 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:06.360 This is a team, especially the Houston game, you don't 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:08.279 have Michael, you don't have a lot of your weapons 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:10.960 that you would normally have. You know, you're you're you're 0:06:11.080 --> 0:06:15.240 down to your third string guys, and although that's proven 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:17.640 to give you some quality depth, going into the future. 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:19.240 But it's not helping you right now. 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:21.240 I mean, teams are able to scheme up and take 0:06:21.320 --> 0:06:24.480 certain things away from Eric Kendricks hasn't played at certain 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:27.280 points uh in the season, and you've had to rely 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:30.520 a lot on youth. They look man, the home the 0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:34.680 home record is not good. It is not, and they haven't. 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:39.119 They haven't, not only from from a crowd standpoint, it's 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:42.119 it's been abysmal for the Cowboys because you haven't felt 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:45.880 like you had a home home field advantage because most 0:06:45.880 --> 0:06:47.680 of the time when you come on the field, have 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:50.400 we got more of the opposing fans there than we 0:06:50.480 --> 0:06:52.120 have actual Cowboy fans? 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:54.279 It's stay there. 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:59.000 Would you think about this though? It wasn't until Thanksgiving 0:06:59.040 --> 0:07:02.159 you played. Did you even play the competitive home game 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:04.560 that Saints game. 0:07:05.600 --> 0:07:06.560 Forty four nineteen? 0:07:07.240 --> 0:07:08.479 You had everybody too. 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:11.600 Ravens twenty eight, twenty five, but it was the first half. 0:07:11.600 --> 0:07:13.280 That thing was a knockout and they just let him 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:16.520 back at the end. The Lions forty seven to nine, 0:07:17.240 --> 0:07:20.720 Philly thirty four to six, Houston thirty four to ten. 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:24.440 It's there. You can't. You can't. 0:07:24.520 --> 0:07:26.800 There's nothing you can take away from this from the season, 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:30.400 and if you're not going to include the injury portioning it, 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:32.200 and even if we come back to the Saints, right 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:34.480 they say the Saints game forty four to nineteen game 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:38.920 wasn't even close. The Cowboys defense in that game was horrible. 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:42.000 The Ravens game, the Ravens made it interesting in the 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:45.800 second half, but the defense still new scheme, Guys all 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:47.960 over the place, Guy's not lining up. We came in 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:49.920 here after This's like, what's going on? One of these 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:54.680 guys doing what coverages? Zimbra playing. It doesn't even seem 0:07:54.720 --> 0:07:57.920 like guys are getting lined up correctly. And so all 0:07:57.960 --> 0:07:59.800 of those things throughout the course of the season to 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:03.040 now we're starting to see this Cowboy defense at least 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:06.840 look eerily just familiar to what we had last season. 0:08:07.000 --> 0:08:08.640 And I'm talking about just being able to load up 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:14.040 force turn turnovers. Uh you know, get interceptions, that's forcing turnovers, 0:08:14.160 --> 0:08:16.560 stop the run, things like that. We hadn't seen that 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:19.640 until late. I mean, look, I'm not I'm not y'all 0:08:19.680 --> 0:08:21.520 not gonna give them out. I'm not trying to look 0:08:21.560 --> 0:08:23.600 for out all. I'm just saying that there's a story 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:25.800 to this season that you can say look, the Cowboys 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:29.720 learning the new defense, being being hurt through certain parts 0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:32.080 of the season, especially in that five game losing skid. 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:35.439 There was nothing positive that you could come away from that. 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:37.480 And there was nothing that Brandon Cooks could tell you 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:40.840 in that situation that was gonna not stop you from saying, dog, 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:43.120 y'all been getting drummed at home. 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:49.880 Losing key players. I can't remember with the stabb they 0:08:49.920 --> 0:08:52.880 talked about your seventh, your top seven or your seventh 0:08:52.960 --> 0:08:55.840 highest paid guys have all either miss time or you know, 0:08:56.240 --> 0:08:59.640 dealt with injuries. And this doesn't really even count Ceedee Lamb, 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:01.880 who knows not one hundred percent with the shoulders out 0:09:01.880 --> 0:09:04.120 there playing hurt. But you know you're talking about your 0:09:04.160 --> 0:09:07.120 Dak Prescott's, your your tank Lawrences and the Michael Parson 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:10.280 guys hurt. It hurt, I mean mikea being gone hurt. 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:11.160 Just look at this right here. 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:16.280 Since Michael Parson's return to the Dallas defensive Week ten, 0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:18.600 the Cowboys are not twenty four sacks, the most in 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:21.960 the NFL over the last six weeks, and generated thirteen takeaways, 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:25.480 third in the NFL. So, you know, losing a player 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:30.079 like that along with a tank Lawrence Sam Williams in 0:09:30.120 --> 0:09:32.880 the depth that you wanted to training camp, you lost him. 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:35.320 Marshaan Lottimore comes in that he gets hurt, So then 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:40.400 there's your backup depth there. Daron Bland wasn't playing at 0:09:40.400 --> 0:09:43.680 this point in time. So it's the context of what 0:09:43.760 --> 0:09:46.040 you're trying to get to. Heckman say, hey, here's what 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:48.000 it is, and this is what it says. But let's 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:50.320 do a deeper dive in the context. And that's where 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:53.280 Jerry Jones as the owner and general manager, really has 0:09:53.320 --> 0:09:55.480 to go. As this thing gets finished up here, where 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:56.920 do you go? How do you see it? How do 0:09:56.960 --> 0:09:59.280 you view it? You've got three playoff teams that you're 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:01.280 about to go against. You're the end the season first place, 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:04.200 Tampa Bay in the South, Eagles in first place. You 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:06.600 got to go to Philadelphia for that game, and then 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:08.480 you get a home game at the end against Washington 0:10:08.559 --> 0:10:10.319 who is fighting for playoff spots. 0:10:10.360 --> 0:10:13.480 Well, they couldn conceivably lose all. 0:10:13.400 --> 0:10:16.480 Three they could, yeah, they could and. 0:10:16.240 --> 0:10:17.560 And and so how do you see it? 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:17.760 Then? 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:19.760 So that makes you and that's gonna put you at 0:10:20.040 --> 0:10:22.960 six and eleven. That's so that's a bad that's a 0:10:23.000 --> 0:10:25.680 bad year. M hm, that's a bad year. That's a 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:29.320 bad year, especially coming into this season with the expectations 0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:32.000 of what was was levied out to this team, not 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:34.360 only the team but the coaching staff. I mean you 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:36.200 looked at it. Everybody was on a one year deal. 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:38.720 They said, look, dude, this is it you you you. 0:10:38.640 --> 0:10:40.400 Want to, you know, get an extension, you want to. 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:43.079 We're basically making you prove this is a proven deal 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:43.800 for you in this year. 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:44.640 Does that make sense? 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:44.920 No? 0:10:46.200 --> 0:10:50.880 Well, that he that and that's HEGMA is yes, because 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:53.520 I've always said this. Heckma, show me who else is 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:55.400 operating like this in winning championships. 0:10:55.480 --> 0:10:59.160 Yeah. Yeah, Look the narrative again, at the end of 0:10:59.200 --> 0:11:03.679 the season. If let's hypothetically worse case scenario six and eleven, 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:07.319 that's horrible. But even though you're gonna come back and 0:11:07.360 --> 0:11:09.240 you're gonna say six and eleven, the first thing you're 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:12.160 going to start pointing to is the talent on the roster. 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:14.360 Before the season even started, How did you think that 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:16.160 you could win with that? How did you think did 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:18.360 you think you could get away with two rookie offensive linemen? 0:11:18.360 --> 0:11:22.680 Did you conceivably believe running back room wise that you 0:11:22.800 --> 0:11:27.720 had that question answered also wide receiver, did you think 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:31.560 that Jalen Tobert after the You know, look, Brandon Cooks, 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:34.199 we had already seved the speed and had started to 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:36.640 dissipate a little bit, and we were looking, we were 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:38.880 already talking about who's the third, who's the fourth, Who's 0:11:38.880 --> 0:11:40.600 gonna be the guy that's gonna step up. We never 0:11:40.679 --> 0:11:44.040 saw that defensively, same questions. You got a guy coming 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:46.200 back from n ACL injury. Oh and by the way, 0:11:46.240 --> 0:11:49.480 another guy that cracks his foot in I mean, there 0:11:49.480 --> 0:11:51.760 were a lot of questions coming to this season about 0:11:51.760 --> 0:11:53.800 the talent and oh, by the way, the talented guys 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:56.360 that you were gonna be depended on were hurt before 0:11:56.440 --> 0:11:58.360 the season started, and you had rookies. 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:01.040 So look, excuses are not gonna be allowed. 0:12:01.160 --> 0:12:02.000 Who does that fall on? 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:04.840 You know exactly who it falls on. If it falls 0:12:04.840 --> 0:12:07.080 on the front office, it falls on the ones. That's 0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:09.920 that's it. Putting Mike McCarthy and the coaching staff in 0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:12.480 a position to be on the hot seat a lame 0:12:12.600 --> 0:12:15.319 duck coach. Everybody in the media knows it. Every time 0:12:15.640 --> 0:12:18.240 Mike goes to the podium, he could potentially be his 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:21.120 last three games of the season. It's been a countdown 0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:22.320 since he started the season. 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:23.960 Yeah. 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:26.679 So, so it's all on the front office. 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:28.920 I mean it. 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:32.200 Is because remember the questions, that's never beat the Browns. 0:12:32.240 --> 0:12:33.160 It's never gonna be on. 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:36.000 You know, people was on the You see that Simmer defense, 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:37.120 you see them flying around. 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:40.600 There was no and what okay, okay, I'll go back, 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:43.920 and what did I say? I would say that their 0:12:43.960 --> 0:12:46.719 two starting tackles are out? You did say that. 0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:49.560 I didn't talk about, Hey, you know this day won. 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:52.480 But oh, by the way, look at what dude was 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:53.600 running for your life. 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:56.080 I mean, but when you come back and even that's 0:12:56.120 --> 0:12:59.439 the first game of the season, we see Cleveland struggles. 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:01.640 Now we know what kind of team they are right. 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:04.160 Now, even New Orleans, Hell, New Orleans had me thinking 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:05.320 that they were going to beat the super Bowl. 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:07.080 They talked to the super Bowl the way they beat 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:09.600 us down. They had a party. 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:12.360 I mean, but then after that game, it's early in 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:12.840 the season. 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:14.360 Now what do we see from these teams? 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:16.240 I mean, it was too early to even judge and 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:19.000 put your finger on who they are, how they were gelling, 0:13:19.080 --> 0:13:21.560 how they were meshing as a team and as a defense. 0:13:22.000 --> 0:13:23.719 Who were going to put it on. I think Mike. 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:27.720 Look, Mike McCarthy, for all that everybody talks about, he 0:13:27.880 --> 0:13:31.480 is coaching his butt off these last He hadn't quit. 0:13:31.840 --> 0:13:33.079 And the team hasn't quit on him. 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:34.000 He hadn't quit. 0:13:34.240 --> 0:13:36.400 Now, there have been some coaches that's obviously in the city, 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:40.680 that he could be on professional coach anyway he could, 0:13:40.720 --> 0:13:41.320 he could do that. 0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:44.439 Mike has done a good job. But there are questions 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:47.720 that Mike has to answer. And the running back room. 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:50.439 First off, I want to know who wanted Ezekiel Elie. 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:59.760 That's a solid question. You look over here, you didn't 0:13:59.760 --> 0:14:06.880 cut we're bringing back. That's a solid question. I gotta 0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:08.080 look at the running back coach. 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:12.880 The running back room is not the same as when 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:15.480 Skip Pete was here as running back coach. And now 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:17.719 you look out here and you see what are the 0:14:17.760 --> 0:14:20.280 Tampa Bay Buccaneers And when the run run they are 0:14:20.400 --> 0:14:22.680 fourth in the NFL the rushing offense one hundred and 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:24.800 forty four the game tied for fourth. 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:28.000 Here, who's that running back coach? Oh, Skip Pete? Is 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:29.280 there a dominant running. 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:29.600 Back down there? 0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:32.400 Hey guys, come on now, wait a minute, Wait a minute, now, 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:34.720 when you look when you look at Tampa Bay and 0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:38.920 you see Rashaw White and Bucky Irvin, that's different pedigree. 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:43.680 We're not in the same that's a different running back altogether. 0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:46.600 We don't have anything that's comparable to that. 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:48.880 And let me finish here. So you got a running 0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:50.920 back coach. Never been a running back coach in this 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:57.680 league ever whose players have questioned him? I know this, and. 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:01.200 Now how lated in the year you didn't figure it out? 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:02.560 Rico Dallas should be your guy. 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:05.560 We were saying this back and we give him opportunities 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:07.360 back in week four or five. I mean to me 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:08.040 a rotation. 0:15:08.200 --> 0:15:10.520 You know, if you bring Mike McCarthy back, you go 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:13.440 get a running back coach. Go get a running back coach, 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:18.960 because I don't see it here. We're seeing Cavante Turpin. 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:23.200 Now get the football, make plays. I'm sorry, turn on 0:15:23.280 --> 0:15:25.200 the tape from TCU. They were doing this with the 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:27.000 get the guy the ball's face and he's doing that. 0:15:27.240 --> 0:15:29.520 It took far too long to figure some of this 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:33.080 stuff out here. And Mike is the play caller. These 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:36.040 are the questions that Jerry Jones should be asking and 0:15:36.120 --> 0:15:38.720 talking about. Where Mike just can't get off the hook. 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:41.440 You got to answer for this too. I'm not saying 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:44.360 you're the problem. It's skin like saying about Tony Romo. 0:15:44.360 --> 0:15:46.880 I'm not saying Tony Romo's the problem, but Tony Romeo 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:48.600 is a part of the problem. 0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:49.960 And that has to be asked. 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:53.640 Oh, we're gonna talk about calls, and we're talking about 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:57.520 basically calls and effect in a sense. Right, we have 0:15:58.160 --> 0:16:01.800 a rookie running back coach, unproven that you feel like 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:04.640 has been a part of the problem in your running 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:06.560 back room. But can we at least point to the 0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:07.560 offensive line as well? 0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:09.400 Okay, you go to the offensive line, but I go 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:11.880 back to the running back coach here. Who put him there? 0:16:12.400 --> 0:16:13.480 But it's his buddy. 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:16.480 It's his buddy that he's half since its Pittsburgh and 0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:19.040 so at some point in time in the coaching world, 0:16:19.040 --> 0:16:20.440 and this is something I have a very good friend 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:22.320 of mine talk about the inustry. You can't keep hiring 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:24.520 all your friends in these places. And there's some things 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:26.080 that you can say, Hey, man, you hired your buddy, 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:27.119 but what you're getting. 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:27.200 Out of it? 0:16:27.240 --> 0:16:29.000 But know who doesn't hire their guys? 0:16:29.280 --> 0:16:32.840 You know what? Okay, what's the first hire? He made here. 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:37.160 Yeah, but who does I mean? 0:16:37.160 --> 0:16:39.040 But but you go all around the league and you 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:41.320 talk about head coaches and the people that they hire. 0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:42.840 They hire the people that they know. 0:16:43.200 --> 0:16:46.000 Okay, but guess what you now on the chopping block, 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:48.200 you could be nothing, You could be gone and their 0:16:48.280 --> 0:16:50.280 neat If I'm Jerry, you're coming back. 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:52.800 This one ain't coming back. Jerry's already gone through the 0:16:52.840 --> 0:16:56.760 staff before. But right now, in my mind, the running 0:16:56.760 --> 0:16:59.440 back position has been this has been a fail this year. 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:02.920 Offensive line was bad. The offensive line started off horrible 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:05.960 and oh by the way, ric o'dowell didn't get into 0:17:05.960 --> 0:17:08.840 any kind of rhythm until later in the season, even 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:11.280 when you did give him halves to prove himself he 0:17:11.400 --> 0:17:13.920 was his vision was Look, but are you. 0:17:13.840 --> 0:17:18.320 Shocked on the offensive line on? We talked about that, Yes, 0:17:18.359 --> 0:17:21.800 we talked about that. Here comes guyon who's a project. 0:17:21.840 --> 0:17:23.600 It was gonna go from right to let. 0:17:24.320 --> 0:17:25.840 In those games that you just went back when you 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:28.680 were talking about, Yeah, I'm shocked because hell, we only 0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:31.840 rushed some of those games for twenty two yards folk 0:17:31.920 --> 0:17:34.320 Waters and we only had twenty two yards some games 0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:38.200 nineteen yards in a full game. This has to be 0:17:38.280 --> 0:17:40.640 a cause of effect there. It can't just be oh, 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:42.719 we switched the running backs out the cold, they had 0:17:42.760 --> 0:17:43.160 no room. 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:44.920 We talked to Nate Neton all the time, and Nate 0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:49.840 Newton told you his feelings on guy. Yeah, okay, So 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:51.880 if we just go back and listen to what Nate 0:17:51.920 --> 0:17:55.840 had to say from the beginning, this, what we're seeing 0:17:55.880 --> 0:17:58.520 from him is not a shock. Nate kind of nailed 0:17:58.560 --> 0:17:58.920 it right. 0:17:59.160 --> 0:17:59.400 Yeah. 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:04.120 Cooper Bebee spoke about this one before too. This guy 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:06.359 was an All American guard. You put him in a 0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:07.639 position he's never played before. 0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:11.119 When you had a guy in Hoffman, Uh yeah, okay, 0:18:11.160 --> 0:18:13.399 I thought you're talking about about says. 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:19.600 I've said it before and I'll stand by it all 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:21.560 day long, be honest. Is not worth ten million dollars. 0:18:21.880 --> 0:18:23.920 He's worth ten million dollars in Washington, but he wasn't 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:26.160 a ten million dollar guy here considering where they were going. 0:18:26.359 --> 0:18:29.480 So you take a guy at left tackle who was 0:18:29.520 --> 0:18:32.080 wrong to play if Spidey hadn't played. 0:18:32.080 --> 0:18:34.040 Now you got a center playing and Spidey hasn't played. 0:18:34.200 --> 0:18:37.359 No one knew that Zach Martin was was going to 0:18:37.560 --> 0:18:38.480 have this drop off. 0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:43.040 No one thought Terrence Steele would have this drop off. 0:18:43.280 --> 0:18:45.960 What's the difference now though, What is the difference now 0:18:46.080 --> 0:18:48.760 in the running game than those first three weeks? 0:18:48.800 --> 0:18:49.040 From me? 0:18:49.160 --> 0:18:53.040 I just have to say more opportunities for forth, Rico Rico, 0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:55.080 I mean last game he had what twenty. 0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:55.840 Five who did play? 0:18:56.400 --> 0:18:58.680 They played it, they played it, But I mean we 0:18:58.800 --> 0:18:59.760 played some bad teams. 0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:02.720 We still didn't have the running game was there, and 0:19:03.400 --> 0:19:04.480