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Speaker 4: All red scenes, rising up, jimp but you rising vision,

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Speaker 5: You know. It's not often then we quote the Raiders,

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Speaker 5: edition of the Big Red Rage presented by Emergency Air.

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Speaker 5: It has shown number seven fifty one in its existence.

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Speaker 2: Danny, I'm not gonna disagree with you on that one, Paul.

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Speaker 5: the latest Adam Schefter reporting Danny that Niners defensive coordinator

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Speaker 2: Absolutely is having three of the best pass catchers in

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Speaker 5: And you know, it's a great point of Michael Wilson

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Speaker 5: And you know what, honestly, the twenty twenty four receiver

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Speaker 6: I know Darius's frustration has come from lack of ability

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Speaker 2: Not just in a sense of trying up the competition.

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Speaker 5: And look, he was pretty forthright with the media as well.

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Speaker 7: Passers like, I gotta affect the quarterback way more than

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Speaker 7: I've done these two years, So that's gonna be number

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Speaker 7: But I'm excited because it's all things that I can control,

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 2: He's someone who's got really good bend and he's shown

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Speaker 5: is going to have to have a big rebound year

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Speaker 5: next season, you would think, and he has serious competition.

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Speaker 5: That is a that is a loaded cornerback room, right

436
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Speaker 5: Will Johnson. Another high second round pick, Denzel Burke, who

437
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Speaker 5: beat out Max Melton the second half of this season.

438
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Speaker 5: As a fifth round rookie, Jones, he was a complete

439
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Speaker 5: unknown until the last quarter of the last game and

440
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Speaker 5: then all of a sudden he made a couple of

441
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Speaker 5: PBUs what do you have in Elijah Jones? I mean,

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Speaker 5: you got to figure that out. And then Starling Thomas,

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Speaker 5: who had been a starter but then had a season

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Speaker 5: and he knee injury in camp.

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Speaker 2: Starling Thomas is a restricted free agent, So I think

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Speaker 2: that's where a lot of these conversations are going to

447
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Speaker 2: have to stem from, is what is your future with

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Speaker 2: Thomas if there is one here in Arizona. So that's

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Speaker 2: an answer that's going to have to be a question,

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Speaker 2: rather it's going to have to be answered. It is

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Speaker 2: interesting though that Max Meltin was starting and then by

452
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Speaker 2: the end of the year he was just getting special

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Speaker 2: teams reps now getting a new head coach and seemingly

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Speaker 2: some new coaches on the staff below that it's going

455
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Speaker 2: to be hard to say now because we don't know

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Speaker 2: who that coach is going to like, or what their

457
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Speaker 2: philosophy and what their schemes are going to be. That

458
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Speaker 2: is a loaded position room, though, and in a good way.

459
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Speaker 2: It's very young, and you saw a lot of good

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Speaker 2: things from the rookies and Will Johnson and Denzel Burke,

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Speaker 2: and they got better the more reps that they got.

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Speaker 2: Those were two players in a position room rather that

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Gannon had called out a preseason of needing to

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Speaker 2: be cleaner, and then by the end of the year,

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Speaker 2: those two were two of the best ebs that were

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Speaker 2: on on the field.

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Speaker 5: I'll give you four names real quick. On offense, in

468
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Speaker 5: the guard position, you have Isaiah Adams, John Gains, who

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Speaker 5: both acquitted themselves pretty dang well down the stretch. Hayden

470
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Speaker 5: Connor injured most of his rookie season, but you got

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Speaker 5: to figure he'll be there competing for that interior O line.

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Speaker 5: And then Trey Benson. What do you have in Trey Benson?

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Speaker 5: This year, unfortunately, was almost entirely a wash. And just

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Speaker 5: due to injuries and then finally ended up on ir

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Speaker 5: There was that stretch the middle of his rookie year

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Speaker 5: two years ago where he looked like James Connor light.

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Speaker 5: I mean, he was running at hard, he was stoken

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Speaker 5: in between the tackles. You know, he has the burst

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Speaker 5: to finish. But Okay, what is his immediate future on

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Speaker 5: this team?

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Speaker 2: And what does he look like after this knee injury? Right?

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Speaker 2: Is it going to be as good as what it

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Speaker 2: looked like before? That's another question. Now that's not necessarily

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Speaker 2: something that's stressful, so to say, Right, James Connor and

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Speaker 2: Trey Benson and they're they're under contract selling to Mari

486
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Speaker 2: de Mercado as a restricted free agent. But that's another question.

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Speaker 2: But look, while it is hard to run the ball

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Speaker 2: if you've got a pretty banged up offensive line. So

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Speaker 2: if you want to talk about improving the run game

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Speaker 2: and players that really need to have a big offseason,

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Speaker 2: that's where my mind goes is starting in the trenches.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I totally agree with you. Building from the inside out. Hey,

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Speaker 5: join US State Farms Stadium February twenty first for the

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Speaker 5: inaugural Cardinals Climb fundraising event and Hike one is several

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Speaker 5: stadium inspired trails, ranging from accessible to advanced. All proceeds

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Speaker 5: benefit the Arizona special needs community. Learn more at Cardinalsclimb

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Speaker 5: dot com. That's Cardinals climb dot com. All right, plenty

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Speaker 5: to talk about coming our way this weekend for big

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Speaker 5: Divisional Round playoff games. That is next on the Big

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Speaker 5: Red Rage, presented by Emergency Air.

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Speaker 2: Love gets the shotgucksnat.

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Speaker 4: He cropped it back to pass. Love in trouble, spits

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Speaker 4: out to his left, no time on the clot booing

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Speaker 4: right steps up, Love looking still looking, He's gonna throw

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Speaker 4: it up to the inside intersected.

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Speaker 2: No, it's dropped.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: But game is over.

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Speaker 4: Heads all over the shut Pago theirs. For the first

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Speaker 4: time since twenty ten, it's have won a playoff game.

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Speaker 2: The drought is over.

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Speaker 4: In the Windy City Bears thirty one Packers twenty seven

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Speaker 4: Path of Bears will host the Divisional Round next week.

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Speaker 4: The Chicago Bears down twenty one, three and a half

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Speaker 4: time rally back.

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Speaker 1: And win it.

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Speaker 5: That is Ryan Radky, great call Westwood one. As he

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Speaker 5: was finishing up that call, there was a midfield handshake

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Speaker 5: going on, well sort of sort of the hit and

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Speaker 5: run handshake by Ben Johnson with Matt Lafleur. Danny talked

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Speaker 5: about this on Cardinals Underground, the podcast, just saying, just

522
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Speaker 5: noting that Matt Lafleur is besties with Sean McVeigh and

523
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Speaker 5: Matt Lafleur's younger brother, Mike Lafleur is on the Rams

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Speaker 5: coaching staff. So dot dot dot maybe a little extra motivation,

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Speaker 5: we'll bet for that whole dynamic. We'll get into that here.

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Speaker 5: As we talked about the NFC on the Big Red

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Speaker 5: Rage presented by Emergency are Yes, Danny Surrek and Farron

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Speaker 5: Wolfleyer's Truie Paul Calvic And here we go. Let's start

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Speaker 5: with an all NFC West NFC game. It's gonna be

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Speaker 5: Saturday nights, six o'clock our time on Fox. Niners at Seattle.

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Speaker 5: They split the season series. Both teams won on the road.

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Speaker 5: I saw where Seattle is doing everything you can to

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Speaker 5: prevent the Niners faithful from buying tickets and invading the

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Speaker 5: stadium like they did earlier this year. Niners, I'll tell

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Speaker 5: you what an underrated traveling fan base, the forty nine

536
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Speaker 5: or faithful. They will come in so we'll see exactly

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Speaker 5: what it's like. Here's an interesting one. Seven of the

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Speaker 5: eight quarterbacks left in the playoffs right now, we're all

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Speaker 5: drafted within the top twelve, except Brock Purdy, who is

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Speaker 5: now five and two in the postseason in his career.

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Speaker 2: Mister irrelevant no more. Paul Stafford is also the only

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Speaker 2: starting quarterback in the playoffs who's won a ring before.

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Speaker 5: Interesting.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and no Kansas in Chiefs this time around. Hey,

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Speaker 2: the tide might be turning, no doubt.

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Speaker 5: So all right, Niners on short rest after their win

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Speaker 5: at Philly last Sunday, so and they have to go

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Speaker 5: on the road. Seahawks. They've been practicing good on good.

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Speaker 5: According to Mike McDonald, they've run some really intense practices.

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Speaker 5: Seattle getting ready to host its first The Twelves haven't

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Speaker 5: had a home playoff game since the twenty sixteen season,

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Speaker 5: so you know they're going to be fired up. But

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Speaker 5: I mean the loss of George Kittle, I mean they've

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Speaker 5: somehow overcome the loss of Fred Warner, who's back practicing,

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Speaker 5: by the way, the loss of Nick Bosa. I mean,

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Speaker 5: can they withstand the loss of George Kittle the forty

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Speaker 5: nine ers and go against the top rated Seattle def.

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Speaker 2: Yes, have you not seen that many times before from

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Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan and the forty nine ers Paul the facts.

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Speaker 2: Without Christian McCaffrey, They've put in Jordan Mason, who has

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Speaker 2: no problem. It doesn't matter what Fred Warner's out. They

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Speaker 2: have plenty of linebackers who can go.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Eric Kendrick's off the couch comes in.

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Speaker 2: I understand that they are a division opponent and arrival,

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Speaker 2: but you gotta kind of respect what Shanahan is in

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Speaker 2: his staff is able to do consistently both sides of

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Speaker 2: the ball on all levels of the offense and defense. Now,

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Speaker 2: not having George Kittle is a huge blow to that offense,

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Speaker 2: but they have Christian McCaffery, who is just as much

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Speaker 2: of a receiver as he is a running back. So

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Speaker 2: I will be very interested to see how they're able

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Speaker 2: to pull that off without Kittle, because even though a

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Speaker 2: defense knows you gotta focus on number twenty three, every

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Speaker 2: play easier said than done and.

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Speaker 5: Actually slowing him down the Seattle defense. By the way,

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Speaker 5: because we mentioned earlier the Marquee matchup really isn't on

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Speaker 5: the field, it's on the sidelines. As you mentioned Kyle

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Speaker 5: Shanahan going against Mike McDonald, right defensive coordinator against one

579
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Speaker 5: of the best play callers in recent NFL history. But

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Speaker 5: this Seattle d number one in scoring, number three in

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Speaker 5: rushing defense, fifth most sacks, twenty six games, they've gone

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Speaker 5: straight without allowing a one hundred yard rusher. They had

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Speaker 5: a trio of second team All pros. They've even given

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Speaker 5: themselves a nickname, you know, Legion of boom Back. So

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Speaker 5: ten years ago they've nicknamed themselves the Dark Side the

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Speaker 5: Seattle defense. So there's that, and then there's here's where

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Speaker 5: I think the game turns. This is, at least for me.

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Speaker 5: Niners defense banged up. Okay, Roberts Saw did a heck

589
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Speaker 5: of a job scheming against the Eagles, no doubt, But

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Speaker 5: this Sam Donald factor. What is your belief level in

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Speaker 5: Sam Darnald, someone who has yet to win a postseason game,

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Speaker 5: and he led the NFL with twenty turnovers by the way,

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Speaker 5: fourteen picks and six loss fumbles.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying not I'm trying to give him the benefit

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Speaker 2: of the doubt. I'm not thinking about Minnesota Sam Donald,

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Speaker 2: but Seattle Sam Dark Sam Darnold, who fought back against

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Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford and the Rams just a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: I don't think we can count them out just from

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Speaker 2: what we've seen in the past. Although that is fair,

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Speaker 2: that's a fair critique, But I think if you're looking

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Speaker 2: at what he has shown this year, I think it's

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Speaker 2: unfair to count him out just because of where he

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Speaker 2: has been in the past in his career.

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Speaker 5: All Right, speaking of Matthew Stafford, the night or the

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Speaker 5: four to thirty game, the early game on Sunday, no,

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Speaker 5: make that the second game on Sunday. Thank you, Paul

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Speaker 5: Rams at the Bears, and you have a Bears team

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Speaker 5: that has not reached the NFC Championship game since twenty ten.

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Speaker 5: Before we get to Stafford in the Rams, what'd you

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Speaker 5: see out of Caleb Williams and the Bears Another furious

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Speaker 5: comeback in the second half, twenty five fourth quarter points,

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Speaker 5: three hundred and sixty one passing yards against Jeff Hafley's

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Speaker 5: Green Bay defense minus Marca Micah Parsons. But I tell

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Speaker 5: you Ben Johnson, Caleb Williams, they obviously have a combo going.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. I mean, what a great It's different, but it's

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Speaker 2: been really interesting this year around the league of seeing

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Speaker 2: someone of a resurgence in quarterbacks and seeing what we've

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Speaker 2: seen in Williams that we haven't the last couple of years,

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Speaker 2: and his ability to make big time throws and the

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Speaker 2: accuracy and to lead his team to victory. And it's

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Speaker 2: similar in a sense to Sam Darnold and what we've

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Speaker 2: seen in the resurgence of his career, Daniel Jones going

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Speaker 2: from New York to Indianapolis. I mean, it's kind of

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Speaker 2: been a trend a little bit around the league in

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Speaker 2: Caleb Williams, although he hasn't moved teams and he's much

626
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Speaker 2: earlier in his career than those other two, you have

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Speaker 2: seen vast improvement from him in Chicago and really leading

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Speaker 2: that offense.

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Speaker 5: And by the way, it's a Rams defense. It is

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Speaker 5: allowed an average a thirty points per game over the

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Speaker 5: past five games. The Rams defense statistically isn't nearly what

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Speaker 5: it was the first two thirds of the season.

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Speaker 2: And it's interesting we talked about this on Cardinals Underround

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Speaker 2: a little bit. You had a good point of it

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Speaker 2: almost seems like maybe the Rams peaked too early in

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Speaker 2: early December, right when they started playing the Cardinals, and

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Speaker 2: you know, you can't always control that, but you obviously

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Speaker 2: want to peak near the end of the season and

639
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Speaker 2: going in the playoffs. But you're right again back to

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Speaker 2: that Seattle game. Ever since then, when the Rams had

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Speaker 2: the opportunity to clinch that number one seed and control

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Speaker 2: their own destiny, and they did it, They've still been

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Speaker 2: very good and very dominant. Don't get me wrong, but

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Speaker 2: you can tell that it seems like they're almost going

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Speaker 2: against themselves, getting their own way a little bit more

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Speaker 2: than they were earlier in the season.

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Speaker 5: It's almost like, and it's hard to say, since you

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Speaker 5: know they're so good and maybe still the Super Bowl favorite,

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Speaker 5: you're still waiting for that entire breakout game by the Rams.

650
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Speaker 5: You know, they've had three great quarters and then they've

651
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 5: stumbled in a fourth quarter. You just went, Okay, is

652
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 5: there going to be the game where they put it

653
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 5: all together? Could this be the game? Could they could

654
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 5: they really do it? In the conditions? The Rams practice

655
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 5: yesterday at their Woodland Hills training complex. It was eighty

656
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 5: two degrees. They're now going to go into Chicago. It's

657
00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 5: going to be a high tops. The forecast is of

658
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 5: twenty two. The wind chill is going to be half

659
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 5: that it's gonna be windy. Now. The Rams last year

660
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 5: did play that playoff game in Philly with the snow.

661
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Speaker 5: They played a game last year and sub zero temperatures

662
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 5: against the Jets, But they haven't played a playoff game

663
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 5: with freezing temperatures at kickoff since December of eighty three,

664
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Speaker 5: is what it says here. So can the Rams handle

665
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Speaker 5: the climate?

666
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 2: Maybe they're just turning the ac way down. They're blasting

667
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 2: fans and they're trying to replicate the wind coming their way. Yeah,

668
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 2: look that's a I know it's obviously Dud's the windy city,

669
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 2: but you've been there. We've both been on the sideline

670
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Speaker 2: at Soldier Field. That wind and the temperature drop is

671
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 2: hard to describe if you have not experienced it yourself.

672
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Speaker 2: This time of year.

673
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Speaker 5: It was towards the end of the year and Cairo Santos,

674
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Speaker 5: the Bears kicker, had a phenomenal game and ridiculous wind

675
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 5: at Soldier Field. It was a Sunday night game, and

676
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Speaker 5: and Chad Ryland the next day I saw him in

677
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 5: the locker room, just his respect for what Cairo Santos

678
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 5: did in the wind. It is it is remarkable and

679
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 5: definitely is a skill to deal with the win.

680
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Speaker 2: You know what, though, again, you can't similar You can't

681
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 2: cut out Sam Darnold, can't count out Matthew Stafford in

682
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 2: the Rams just because of the weather they're going to

683
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 2: be playing in, because they've gotten it done before as

684
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 2: individuals and as a team in the last couple of

685
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 2: years like that, they have gone and they've shown they

686
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Speaker 2: can go and they can play in the cold weather.

687
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Speaker 5: And here's the other thing. We have seen them run

688
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,720
Speaker 5: the ball really well. If they get Kevin two good yeah,

689
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 5: And if they get Kevin Dotson back, their best interior

690
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 5: offensive lineman, their best lineman period who is tracking to

691
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 5: play right now from a three game absence. AQ raves

692
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,879
Speaker 5: about Kevin Dotson, Matthew Stafford raves about his starting right guard.

693
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Speaker 5: If he's back and they're able to run the ball

694
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Speaker 5: like we've seen him run the ball advantage Rams.

695
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Speaker 2: You also think maybe Sean McVay might want to go

696
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 2: after Ben Johnson a little bit after that lack of

697
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 2: a handshake.

698
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 5: Once before Matt Lafleoor his bestie Mike Lafloor, Matt Lafleur's

699
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 5: younger brother on the team, they get a chance to

700
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 5: run it up. They will. We'll focus on the AFC next,

701
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 5: on the big red rage presented by emergency.

702
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: Air shotgun snap. On first down, Bill's rushed three over

703
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: the middle, throws to forty, intercepted, picked up by court

704
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: Bishop on the deflection, and buffalo. He's gonna be able

705
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 1: to walk out of Jacksonville with a playoff win.

706
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 2: Herbert drops back to pass. Herbert has hit.

707
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 8: Herbert has sacked.

708
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 2: It's the sixth.

709
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Speaker 5: Second the day.

710
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: Milton Williams wraps him up and slams.

711
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 4: Him down at the forty three yard line.

712
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 5: That is gonna do it.

713
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 8: One drive down the middle, intercepted at the fifty and

714
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 8: picked off on the play by Bullet. He's down the

715
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 8: far side, thirty farside, twenty down the far side line.

716
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 8: Ten five touchdown. Rogers has thrown up picksix and what

717
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 8: might be the final pass of his career.

718
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 5: Kevin Arlin right there, Tom McCarthy, Kevin Coogler all on

719
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Speaker 5: Westwood one. Yeah, Aaron Rodgers the pick six, made a

720
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 5: bit of an attempt at a touchdown saving tackle, and

721
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Speaker 5: then forty eight hours later or less, according to reports,

722
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 5: Mike Tomlin walked in and called a team meeting, and

723
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 5: announced he was ending his nineteen year reign as the

724
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 5: Steelers head coach, and that Aaron Rodgers apologized saying I'm sorry,

725
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 5: I'm sorry. I actually got teary eyed thinking that a

726
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 5: lot of the players, Steelers players thought that maybe they

727
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 5: were responsible for Mike Tomlin stepping aside and ending his

728
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,720
Speaker 5: tenure with the Steelers. So very eventful in the AFC.

729
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 5: It's the big red rage present of my emergency here

730
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 5: at Paul Calvezy Danny Serek in for Ron Wolfley. So

731
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Speaker 5: you have Buffalo at Denver, Houston at New England. Let's

732
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 5: start with the Bills at the Broncos. And you're talking

733
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 5: about a Bills team you mentioned it earlier. There's no

734
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 5: Joe Burrow, there's no Patrick Mahomes, there's no Lamar Jackson.

735
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 5: Josh Allen is the man in the AFC, at least

736
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 5: in terms of experience and pedigree. Just got Buffalo's first

737
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 5: road playoff wins since nineteen ninety two. So is he

738
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 5: gonna continue to slay all those dragons?

739
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 2: Danny, Well, this is a tough Denver defense that he's

740
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 2: got in front of him, and it's been a very

741
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 2: good defense all year. That that's really the side of

742
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 2: the ball that has carried the Broncos all year is

743
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 2: the offense has been okay, they've had some rough games,

744
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 2: but it's the defense that has consistently kept them in

745
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 2: games and won them game. So I'm very intrigued to

746
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 2: see Josh Allen and the Bills and what they can

747
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 2: do against oh Avance Joseph defense. All that name's not familiar, yep.

748
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 2: Taking us back to the segment one.

749
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Speaker 5: Yep, taking us back even to the joint practice when

750
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 5: we saw Van say back in August. And you know what,

751
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 5: if you want to go back to last year in

752
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 5: the playoffs, remember Buffalo jackstam Denver thirty one to seven

753
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 5: bo Nicks his rookie year. They defied all expectations. They

754
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 5: made the playoffs. And I mean you look back at

755
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 5: that game, how dominant Buffalo with was in that win

756
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 5: against Denver. I mean the time of possession was nearly

757
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 5: forty two to eighteen. Buffalo rushed for two hundred and

758
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 5: ten yards. I mean, Denver had a good defense last year,

759
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 5: not like this year. Right now Denver as the number

760
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 5: two rush d But again, I just think a lot

761
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 5: of this is going to be all right, Josh Allen

762
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 5: against the number two rushing D, number two scoring D

763
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 5: allowing just over eighteen points per game vance Joseph's Denver unit.

764
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 5: They had sixty eight sacks this year to lead the NFL.

765
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 5: That Bill's offensive line has been will be kind inconsistent

766
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:28,720
Speaker 5: at times protecting Josh Allen. And then the red zone defense.

767
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 5: This is what it comes down to for me. They

768
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 5: were number one in the league Denver's red zone d

769
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 5: allowing touchdowns and only twenty of forty seven trips, the

770
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 5: lowest percentage in the league. And that's where Josh Allen excels, right,

771
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 5: not only the experience in the arm talent, but the

772
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 5: legs and then you know his size to be able

773
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,399
Speaker 5: sometimes just to power his way into the end zone.

774
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 2: And now they have the monkey off their back of

775
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,439
Speaker 2: winning a road playoff game. You know, I mean, we're

776
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 2: obviously still a ways away, but Sean Payton could if

777
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 2: they win this game, could be on pace to be

778
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 2: the first head coach to win a Super Bowl with

779
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 2: two d different teams as the head coach in both spots.

780
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 5: Wow, okay, yeah, that's interesting. And then you look at

781
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 5: the fact that going back to the Bills and how

782
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 5: they've been knocked out of the playoffs by Kansas City

783
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 5: four times the last five years. So there's that, But

784
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,439
Speaker 5: there's also a Denver team that grew up this year,

785
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 5: Danny Wright. They won eleven one score games, they recorded

786
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 5: eleven comebacks, first home playoff games since Peyton Manning beat

787
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 5: Tom Brady in the twenty fourteen AFC Championship, So you

788
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 5: know the place is going to be as a kid say,

789
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 5: lit hype. But here's the other thing. Denver's coming off

790
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 5: of bye and Buffalo's on six days rest having to

791
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 5: travel sort of the Niners Dynamics Seattle coming off of

792
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,399
Speaker 5: by Niners on short rest having to go on the road.

793
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 5: So the first thing I'm be looking at is all right,

794
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 5: just the energy, intensity, physicality, and is Denver just a

795
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 5: much better rested and more physical teams.

796
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,720
Speaker 2: That's what you would hope, right, But I mean we've

797
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 2: both been covering the NFL in teams long enough to

798
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 2: understand that sometimes when you're coming off a buy, not

799
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 2: even just playoffs, but regular season, it's not always a

800
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 2: hot start. You can have a sluggish start in despite

801
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 2: having that extra time for rest and practice and mentally

802
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 2: physically getting right, you don't always have that hot start

803
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 2: that a team that is still in that normal routine

804
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 2: and going through the motions and having played a game.

805
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 2: It's not necessarily an easy leg up for the Broncos

806
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 2: who have had that extra week off.

807
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 5: Here's another key. James Cook only had forty six yards

808
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 5: rushing against Jacksonville's number one rushing defense. So can the

809
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 5: Bills get a run game? Then you have the Texans

810
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 5: at the Patriots, and not only do you have the

811
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 5: most dominant defense in the NFL right now in the

812
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 5: Houston Texans, but you have a Patriots defense that's saying,

813
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Speaker 5: you know what, wait a minute. We went out there,

814
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:55,399
Speaker 5: we hit, we harassed, we confounded Justin Herbert, we kept

815
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 5: him out of the end zone. A sixteen to three

816
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 5: win by New England. Mike Rabold defensive head coach. You know,

817
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 5: the Patriots had five sacks, They allowed only two hundred

818
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 5: and seven total yards. I think a lot of people

819
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 5: are still trying to figure out New England. You know,

820
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 5: did they get fat on the NFL's softest schedule. Drake

821
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 5: May who's right there with Matthew Stafford for NFL MVP, Okay,

822
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 5: is he ready for divisional playoff game. I'm just you know, CJ.

823
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 5: Stroud three turnovers yet still got the win. You know,

824
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Speaker 5: I'm just really curious what both quarterbacks look like in

825
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 5: this game.

826
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

827
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Speaker 6: CJ.

828
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Speaker 2: Stroud is I mean his rookie year right when when

829
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 2: the Cardinals had made that trade in the draft and

830
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 2: workspacially with a rookie quarterback to have a high draft

831
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Speaker 2: back and he did. Arizona no favors with that one,

832
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 2: dropping down to twenty six for Darius Robinson. But what's

833
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 2: interesting is Stroud has the talent, right, he has the

834
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 2: arm strength, he has the accuracy. He's not the most

835
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 2: consistent though, didn't have a great year last year, and

836
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 2: then this year having those picks, I mean, he's shown

837
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 2: that he's he's willing to take risks and it doesn't

838
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 2: always pay off. Similar to Denver, I think that defense

839
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 2: is what has really kept Houston in a lot of

840
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 2: games and won them a lot of games. That is

841
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 2: a fun defense to watch and they are a good defense.

842
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 2: And once again their defensive coordinator, Matt Burke is a

843
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,240
Speaker 2: name that has been circulating. The Cardinals rewardedly have interest

844
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 2: in interviewing for their head coach.

845
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 5: Opening Yes, indeed. In fact, last week, here's your holy

846
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 5: can only stat that Texans became the second team in

847
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 5: playoff history to score multiple defensive touchdowns in a game

848
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 5: without allowing a touchdown. So that's a breat I mean,

849
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 5: they have been dominant. Will Anderson Junior, Daniel Hunter, all

850
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 5: three levels of the defense have been really good.

851
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 2: Cornerbacks have been stellar.

852
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 5: Yes, and Jalen Peatrie the hard hitting safety to go

853
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 5: along with Derek Stingley junior and all Pro Kamari Lassiter

854
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 5: who was taken right before Max Melton in that draft

855
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 5: two years ago. He has really evolved and developed. And look,

856
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 5: if New England doesn't get running game going, they have

857
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 5: two talent and running backs or Amandre Stevenson and Treveon Henderson.

858
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 5: But last week Drake May was the leading rusher, was

859
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,399
Speaker 5: sixty six yards rushing. So if Houston's going to make

860
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 5: them one dimensional like that, you know, Drake May has

861
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 5: great arm talent and he led the NFL and completion percentage,

862
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 5: but they don't have the most talented rumor receivers. So

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Speaker 5: if you make them one dimensional, that could be a

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Speaker 5: real issue for New England.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's interesting when you're looking around the NFL

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Speaker 2: they are so early in their career and wondering, okay,

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Speaker 2: is this something that's going to be sustainable? I mean,

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Speaker 2: bo Nix is another great example of you know, they

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Speaker 2: finished their rookie year and it's okay, is it somewhat luck? Right?

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Speaker 2: Can you do it consistently? And to see Drake May

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Speaker 2: have the year he's had and he's really been the

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Speaker 2: only name consistently that has been said with Matthew Stafford

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Speaker 2: in the MVP talks has been impressive.

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Speaker 5: I mean, look at the draft class this time last year, right,

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Speaker 5: it was Caleb Williams, Jayden Daniels, and Drake May. Everyone

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Speaker 5: was taking Jayden Daniels rightfully so, but now look at

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Speaker 5: the end of year two. To your point, Drake May

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Speaker 5: is the MVP candidate. Caleb Williams a lot of people

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Speaker 5: would say, has surpassed Jayden Daniels and that was almost

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Speaker 5: unthinkable at this point a year ago.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and who knows what's going to happen now with

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Speaker 2: Washington's future. I mean, Cliff Kingsbury is no longer the

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Speaker 2: offensive coronator there, so we'll see what that holds for

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Speaker 2: Jane Daniels future.

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Speaker 5: So Houston has won ten in a row. They're aiming

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Speaker 5: for their first AFC Championship game in team history. So

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Speaker 5: we'll see Nico Collins. By the way, their star receivers

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Speaker 5: in concussion protocol that obviously is a huge factor in

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Speaker 5: the game. We'll see how that plays out. Once again,

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Speaker 5: the AFC is going to be Buffalo at Denver. That's Saturday,

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Speaker 5: two thirty, Houston at New England Sunday at one, and

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Speaker 5: then NFC against San Francisco at Seattle six o'clock Saturday,

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Speaker 5: and then on Sunday at four thirty Rams at the

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