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Speaker 1: four hundred and this is the Iron Rapports podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: in here with my man, Brian Scalabrini. We are actually

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Speaker 1: two different people. I don't know why I'm looking at

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Speaker 1: you and I'm thinking, I don't understand why people compare us.

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Speaker 1: They've been comparing us for years. You're like a red

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Speaker 1: red and I'm like a strawberry. Here's the thing. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if you remember this, but in Philly my

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Speaker 1: rookie years. Yes, I like, yo, my man Scalabrini, Yo,

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Speaker 1: if they ever make a movie of you, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: play the cat. And I played like at that point

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Speaker 1: six games in my I think it was the other

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Speaker 1: way around. You came up to me and you were

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Speaker 1: like you were like you were a rookie, and I

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Speaker 1: was like, who the funk are you? I was was

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Speaker 1: it was Philly? Right? Anyway? This is the Iron Wrap

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Speaker 1: Coorp Podcast. I'm in here with my man, Brian Scalabrini,

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Speaker 1: a k a. The White Mamba. The greatest thing name

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Speaker 1: is sports? Where did the nickname come from? First? So

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Speaker 1: Stacy King I made. I made these nikes. You know,

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Speaker 1: like a lot of guys get their shoes made, a

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Speaker 1: lot of guys have their own line. So I I

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Speaker 1: you know, Kobe came out with his black Mamba's, I

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Speaker 1: came out. I made a pair of White Mamba him yourself. Like,

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Speaker 1: you know, you went online and bought k Nike. I

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Speaker 1: d right, but I get I get a little bit

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Speaker 1: of coin on Nike. The idea I could make my

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Speaker 1: own shoes. It's right, it's my deal, right. I came in.

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Speaker 1: I slapped him down on the we're on the plane

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Speaker 1: on their card table, and I said, these are the

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Speaker 1: white Mamba's right here, like Kobe just came out with him,

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Speaker 1: he had the commercials. I slapped him down on the table.

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Speaker 1: Stacy King was like, that's it right there now, the

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Speaker 1: white Mamba, and that was it, and I was like,

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Speaker 1: go with it. And it's been a worldwide crazy ever since. Yes,

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Speaker 1: so you sort of invented the white mamba. You know,

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Speaker 1: I made the shoes. Oh and he said white mamba,

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Speaker 1: and I go, I go, these are the white mambas.

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Speaker 1: You said, if you said these are the white mambas,

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Speaker 1: then you patent it. But then he picked it up

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Speaker 1: and it's never been the same since. It's been like

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Speaker 1: a fucking It's like it's like Toyota, it's like Coca Cola,

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Speaker 1: it's like Starbucks. It's taken off. It's sort of surpassed

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Speaker 1: what Kobe was trying to do with the black mamba.

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Speaker 1: Know as Kobe ever acknowledged you as the white mamba,

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Speaker 1: tell me I introduced myself on Twitter. I said like

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Speaker 1: like Kobe came out and said with his tweet, he said, uh,

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Speaker 1: the anti social is now social. The black Mamba is here.

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Speaker 1: And then I come out two weeks later, which is

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Speaker 1: the letter and you know, all my announcements always like

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Speaker 1: pack you back off of the major stars in the NBA.

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Speaker 1: So Kobe came out the black Mamba is now the

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Speaker 1: social Mamba whatever, and I come out like I held

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Speaker 1: out longer than the black Mamba. White Mamba is now

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Speaker 1: on Twitter, he acknowledged, welcome to Twitter, White Mamba. My

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Speaker 1: followers went from like six to thirty six thousand, boom

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Speaker 1: boom like that, funk. I need to get a shout

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Speaker 1: out from Kobe on Twitter. I need to get a

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Speaker 1: shout out from I want to jump. I want to

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Speaker 1: make this real time and then I'm gonna go into

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Speaker 1: Scala bringing sho. You could ask me questions, I can

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Speaker 1: ask you all right, let me ask you a question.

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Speaker 1: We're in Game three of the NBA Finals right now.

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Speaker 1: If you had to bet your house, if you had

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Speaker 1: to bet everything you have on who you think is

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Speaker 1: going to win this series based on what you know,

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Speaker 1: on what's happening right now. What would you do a

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Speaker 1: fews the Warriors? Easy? Easy? Yeah, if you had to.

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Speaker 1: Last night was not fucking easy. I have so many

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Speaker 1: questions about the Warriors right now. I was feeling really

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Speaker 1: good about about the whole thing I was, and now

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Speaker 1: now I'm not relax. Looka the Warriors that got caught

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Speaker 1: up a little bit in their three point shooting. Okay,

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Speaker 1: but here's the thing. You know, when you have real

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Speaker 1: Stepan went to the whole for the game winner, so

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Speaker 1: when he crossed over Delava Dova and got to the bucket?

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Speaker 1: How easy was that? Okay? Everyone's scared the death of

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Speaker 1: his shooting. When he goes to the basket, after he

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Speaker 1: to drive the basketball, go to the paint, and then

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Speaker 1: he'll open up the three point shooting as well. Attack

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Speaker 1: the basket. First, attack the basket because they're afraid of

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Speaker 1: Steph Curry. Everyone's afraid of Steph Curry shooting the ball.

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Speaker 1: Drive the basketball, and watch what happens Game three. Watch

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Speaker 1: what happened? All right? Now, let me ask you a question.

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Speaker 1: No one's been able to give me a straight answer

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Speaker 1: on this. And it's not because I'm a fucking like

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Speaker 1: a hurting Knicks fan and blah blah blah blah blah.

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Speaker 1: All star, former All Star double double guy throughout his

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Speaker 1: career is sitting on the bench. I'm not even sure

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Speaker 1: if he's a practice player anymore. Why is David Lee

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Speaker 1: not playing? The problem with this podcast is going to

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Speaker 1: be this, David Lee is gonna play Game three, and

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Speaker 1: you're asking this question. You're gonna have to edit this party.

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Speaker 1: I want to know because so then we're gonna play.

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Speaker 1: He hasn't played in four months? No, No, he's gonna

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Speaker 1: play a game. Why isn't David Lee playing? He will

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Speaker 1: playing Game three? Okay, but why hasn't he been playing? Because?

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Speaker 1: Because this is why? Because Fessis had a little bit

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Speaker 1: of festis Ze played a little pretty good, pretty good

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Speaker 1: in the Western Conference Finals. He did a decent job

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Speaker 1: in game one, and people are gassing him up. They

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Speaker 1: didn't they blink their eyes and Lebron goes eight oh

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Speaker 1: is in the game. And then he didn't play. Most

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Speaker 1: bates you want to you want to fall in love

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Speaker 1: with the jumper. Yeah, most bates can win you some games.

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Speaker 1: He had a decent game one, then he break you know,

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Speaker 1: David Lee is a guy that went When Steph throws

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Speaker 1: back to David Lee, he will score the ball. I know, okay,

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Speaker 1: so David Lee will play in a game. But but

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Speaker 1: how does a guy explain this to me? How does

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Speaker 1: a guy like David Lee get ostracized and go so

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Speaker 1: many games forget little playing time? Like, how does that

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Speaker 1: happen in the end? Being like to a guy like that,

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Speaker 1: I know someone I was asking someone else who's a

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Speaker 1: supposed expert. I'm asking you, you're a supposed expert, expert,

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Speaker 1: break it down in the scale. How does the guy

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Speaker 1: like David Lee not to say that he's you know,

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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's but David Lee is a solid player, He's

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Speaker 1: an inside player. How does he go from being David

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Speaker 1: Lee to not playing at all? Like? Is it the system? Like?

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Speaker 1: What does David Lee not do that would make it

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Speaker 1: so he wouldn't plays? A very simple answer, Give it

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Speaker 1: to me, Okay, Draymond Green can shoot. Yes, So they

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Speaker 1: always have like a four man that can shoot in there.

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Speaker 1: They never really run a lineup where there's not a

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Speaker 1: shooting four in there, even if they go small. It's

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Speaker 1: most states, I mean, so they always have a shooting

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Speaker 1: for David Lee can't shoot threes, okay, So then you

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Speaker 1: want to but weight and you play him at the five.

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Speaker 1: He can't defend that position. Now, Lebron James goes down

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Speaker 1: the bucket, can't he defend fives? Can he keep Tristan

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Speaker 1: Thompson or Mos goof off the glass? No? But what

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Speaker 1: he will? He can't bang with Tristan, No, Tristan is

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Speaker 1: too strong. If Tristan was playing five and David Lee

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Speaker 1: to the basket. The only reason why Lebron stopped driving

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Speaker 1: the ball to the basket in the game, it's because

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Speaker 1: Andrew Bogets in there. When Festist gets in there, He's

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Speaker 1: not afraid of Festist. He's not afraid of anybody. Lebron

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Speaker 1: Bogie's gonna settle for a jump shot. So it's all about,

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Speaker 1: you know, the intent. If Lebron sees David Lee at

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Speaker 1: the rim, he's not gonna slow down. So when he

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Speaker 1: sees Bogan, he's like, man, I better pull up, like

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Speaker 1: people don't. Lebron's not making the decision. Well, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: maybe this time I'll pull up. No, he's driving the ball.

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Speaker 1: He has his eyes on Bogett, alright and all up

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Speaker 1: this time? Or let me shoot a floater because I

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Speaker 1: defend a rim when you're playing against Lebron James you

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Speaker 1: looks like David Lee he can't necessarily do that, but

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Speaker 1: what he can do is score. He can score. He

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Speaker 1: can score. So how are you feeling like you were

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Speaker 1: sort of around? You were there with the Warriors, the

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Speaker 1: emergence of this team breakdown. Steph Curry, his greatness, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna throw him at you like I mean, I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's been smoking about so much alright, alright. His his

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Speaker 1: ability to shoot obviously makes him special is because it

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Speaker 1: was like Kyle Corver, Ray Allen. These guys can shoot

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Speaker 1: off the catch, all right. There's three types of shooting

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Speaker 1: in the NBA. Right, there's guys a spot up like me,

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Speaker 1: I stand in the corner, I wait for the ball,

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Speaker 1: I shoot it. Then there's guys that catch it Reggie

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Speaker 1: Miller style from off the screen, catches the screen. That's

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Speaker 1: the second type of shooting. The last one is shooting

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Speaker 1: the ball off the bounce. Steph is one of those

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Speaker 1: guys that can do all three. But his ability to

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Speaker 1: shoot off the bounds, and you saw the ridiculous handle

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Speaker 1: that he has and the footwork and the footwork to

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Speaker 1: get his shot off, and it always seems like, can

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Speaker 1: tell me if this is one. It seems like hey

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Speaker 1: mastered shooting off the opposite foot and not looking off balance. No,

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Speaker 1: I mean the way that he the way that he

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Speaker 1: manipulates the dribble to get into his shot, everything is

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Speaker 1: set up by his handle, by his hesitation, by his

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Speaker 1: herkey jerkiness to get his shot off. Now that keeps

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Speaker 1: guys on edge. Like I didn't realize that until last

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Speaker 1: year when I was there coaching. I was playing against

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Speaker 1: guy and he makes a move and gap him and

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Speaker 1: he doesn't shoot it, Like every mistake you make the

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Speaker 1: defensive player, he can account for that boom you make

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Speaker 1: mistake shots up it's going. So his ability to do

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Speaker 1: that makes him special. Now his ability also, I think

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Speaker 1: But we're gonna like, like, it's gonna be like Thibodeaux.

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Speaker 1: gonna hear me husky and raspy, and like I can't.

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Speaker 1: I can't when I talk. Trust me. Until the wheels

421
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Speaker 1: come off of this motherfucker and I'm walking away with

422
00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,720
Speaker 1: a million dollars, I am not shutting up, and the

423
00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,920
Speaker 1: voice will go nowhere. This is a finely tuned instrument.

424
00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,080
Speaker 1: All right, I'm with you on that, But just just

425
00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,520
Speaker 1: know that if you go too hard early, you're gonna

426
00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:45,520
Speaker 1: lose guys. You won't lose me because we're boys. Oh

427
00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,680
Speaker 1: you mean guys will check out to my system? No, No,

428
00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,840
Speaker 1: they won't know. They fucking won't know. They I don't care.

429
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Speaker 1: Oh I played Overseas, I played with Popovich, I have rings.

430
00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:55,879
Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck. This is this is this is.

431
00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,159
Speaker 1: This is a different system. That's what I'm trying to

432
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Speaker 1: let everybody know. This is a different system. Alright, alright, okay,

433
00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,000
Speaker 1: is there any team that you're aware of the team

434
00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:05,760
Speaker 1: is really good? Who's on team? The team has a

435
00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:07,440
Speaker 1: bunch of ballers from Seattle. I just played in a

436
00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,800
Speaker 1: tournament up there, just up there, right, Well, they're they're

437
00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:12,760
Speaker 1: a little on this. They're a little small, so they

438
00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:14,879
Speaker 1: don't have a lot of size, right, But they just

439
00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:18,920
Speaker 1: they all guys in Seattle. They they whoop. They play

440
00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:20,600
Speaker 1: like we played three on three all the time, we

441
00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:22,879
Speaker 1: played five on five. Like they don't. We're just hoop

442
00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:29,439
Speaker 1: in Seattle. We're not about this workout. My workout guy, bullshit,

443
00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:31,399
Speaker 1: we don't do any of that stuff in Seattle. Now,

444
00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,760
Speaker 1: let me ask you something. These guys so many devastating

445
00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,960
Speaker 1: injuries to young players, all right, I mean it breaks

446
00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,000
Speaker 1: my heart to watch Kyrie. I mean I was going

447
00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,600
Speaker 1: for the words, but that watching him walk off the

448
00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,680
Speaker 1: way he did, and no, he knew something was bad,

449
00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,000
Speaker 1: because otherwise, why would you leave the court with two

450
00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:49,920
Speaker 1: minutes ago? You would at least stay and watched and

451
00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,680
Speaker 1: and the Russell Westbrooks and Kevin Durant and obviously the

452
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Speaker 1: Derrick Roses. Do you have any is there any sort

453
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Speaker 1: of talk of why the injuries are happening to these

454
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Speaker 1: guys young, because I just don't remember a time when

455
00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:05,000
Speaker 1: so many great players were suffering from serious injuries. I

456
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,680
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, if you did a study of it,

457
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,600
Speaker 1: you probably it would take ten years to finally figure

458
00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,000
Speaker 1: out the way then, but I told you I was

459
00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,879
Speaker 1: playing with Jamal Crawford. Jamal Crawford comes into gym, he

460
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,440
Speaker 1: gets his shots up for about ten to fifteen minutes,

461
00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:20,560
Speaker 1: and then he then we played three on three, four

462
00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,880
Speaker 1: on four, full court, back and forth, back and forth,

463
00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 1: and he just basically working out during the game. That

464
00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,080
Speaker 1: might be a better way of doing it than than

465
00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,719
Speaker 1: having a workout crossings, I mean, or any of these

466
00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:32,320
Speaker 1: things that these guys are doing. But I don't know

467
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Speaker 1: the answer to that question. I hate seeing it. I

468
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,399
Speaker 1: hate seeing that. You want to see guys go out there.

469
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Speaker 1: But then like you look at Lebron, He's he's very durable.

470
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Speaker 1: There's some guys that are extremely durable and some guys

471
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Speaker 1: that aren't. It's a lot of these athletic guards, super athletic.

472
00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,280
Speaker 1: I mean, Derrick grows. It kills me to watch it.

473
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Speaker 1: I mean, what's Westbrook is a freak because he's come

474
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Speaker 1: back from two to serious injuries and it's like you

475
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Speaker 1: can't stop. The first one was a like a like

476
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Speaker 1: there's a difference between what they call non contact injury.

477
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 1: You go up, you come down, you fall bam, right,

478
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Speaker 1: But those are the ones that are getting miniscy. But

479
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Speaker 1: like when we saw Westbrook Patrick Beverley, the first initial

480
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 1: injury was pat Patrick Beverley reached and he hit his

481
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 1: knee in and boom, he towards meniscus. Right, So that's

482
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Speaker 1: a that's a contact injury. Those are gonna happen. They're

483
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Speaker 1: gonna happen to anybody. The non contact injuries are the

484
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Speaker 1: ones that that you're probably bringing up the guys that

485
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Speaker 1: the derreck Rose goes up, comes down, doesn't touch anybody

486
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Speaker 1: and does the a c L. So, yeah, I don't know.

487
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Speaker 1: I don't know the answer to I think if someone's

488
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Speaker 1: really studied it, you would find out. And maybe all

489
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Speaker 1: this working out is not good for guys. Maybe it's

490
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Speaker 1: better just to go out there and whop. I don't

491
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Speaker 1: know what it is I see. For me, I never

492
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Speaker 1: had to worry about that. And I'm gonna tell you

493
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Speaker 1: something else about my game. And then because I know, no,

494
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Speaker 1: I know people aren't really interested in my game. But

495
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Speaker 1: the fact that I was I'm forty five now I've

496
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Speaker 1: never lost the step because when I was fifteen, I

497
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 1: was the same speed, which is the beauty of being me.

498
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Speaker 1: Donna stand what I'm saying, like, I haven't slowed down

499
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Speaker 1: a bit. You're definitely had glasses half full type of guy.

500
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:01,879
Speaker 1: I was the same speed that I am now at

501
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 1: forty five, So that's kind of like an advantage I had.

502
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Speaker 1: No Not a lot of people can actually say that

503
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Speaker 1: I haven't lost the step. I didn't. How could you

504
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 1: lose what you never had? Agree? So are you bragging

505
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 1: about that? Year olds that would say that, right? I

506
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 1: doubt there with that many, No, I beg you. There's

507
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 1: a lot of guys that are like, man, I never

508
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,880
Speaker 1: lost a step, Yeah, you never had? You never had?

509
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Speaker 1: No there, How did you get the m v P

510
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 1: of that game? Asked her all Owens seriously, because hearts

511
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 1: rebounds and tenacious knows to know. No, you think this

512
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:37,359
Speaker 1: is a joke. No, I think I think there's some

513
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 1: other way you got the m v P. Late Great

514
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 1: Stewart Scott handed me the trophy. And we have four points, okay,

515
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Speaker 1: and I had and I had six fouls. They actually

516
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Speaker 1: they actually gave me a seventh foul. The late great

517
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,119
Speaker 1: Stewarts got handed me the trophy and and and he

518
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Speaker 1: he had been through Moments of Greatness scene NBA Finals

519
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 1: over and over. But when he handed me that, I

520
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 1: could see tears in his eyes because he saw greatness

521
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Speaker 1: like and and and he never said this to me,

522
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,119
Speaker 1: but that was the moment that I had. That was

523
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Speaker 1: my Stewarts guy. But it wasn't most improved. It was

524
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Speaker 1: m v P. They don't give that out to this

525
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 1: anybody's point four points, I mean nose defense. How many

526
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:14,639
Speaker 1: points were scored in the game. It isn't because you

527
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 1: locked up t O. I locked his ass off, So

528
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Speaker 1: that's why they gave. So you tell him you scored

529
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Speaker 1: forty on TiO like, I'm not fucking impress Scott. I

530
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 1: don't know where the funk your head is at. Let

531
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Speaker 1: me move forward. Let me move forward. This is in

532
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,159
Speaker 1: the past, the m v P that I won. I

533
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 1: don't talk about my awards. I'm an award winning director.

534
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 1: I've done so many things. All right, here's the question

535
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Speaker 1: I want to ask you. How many years did you

536
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Speaker 1: play in the NBA? Give me your if you had

537
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Speaker 1: to pick top five players you played with, top five

538
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Speaker 1: players you played with, if you had to make your

539
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 1: all the team that were the guys that you were

540
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Speaker 1: on your team, who would they who would they give

541
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Speaker 1: me your top five. That kid would be the point guard.

542
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:54,680
Speaker 1: And then I'd go Ray Allen Paul Pierce Gardnett. That

543
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,199
Speaker 1: would be the Gardnett of the power for it. Now,

544
00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,200
Speaker 1: the center is a hard one because you know, I

545
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 1: could throw a Sheet Wallace in there. But when he

546
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 1: played with us, he wasn't in his prime. But in

547
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: his prime he's one of the best of all times,

548
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 1: right and for that whatever stretch that was when they

549
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 1: win the Championship of the Pistons. You know, I could

550
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 1: throw in a guy like a P. J. Brown in there.

551
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 1: I can throw in a Parton Knows, Kendrick Perkins, I

552
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 1: can throw in I could throw in uh, let me

553
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 1: think Kem Matumbo. I can throw in Alonzo Morning, you know,

554
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 1: like I mean, I could throw in Joe Him Noah,

555
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 1: And there's like guy so I don't I don't know

556
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Speaker 1: who would be your center. You don't have a center? Yeah?

557
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 1: Or I can shoot Joe Kim. Is Joe Kim a center?

558
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 1: See a powerfulward. He's the multipurpose guy at at that position.

559
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Speaker 1: You know, if you want to say everyone in their prime,

560
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Speaker 1: I'd have to say Alonzo Morning because he was so

561
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Speaker 1: good in his prime. I just didn't the tail in. Yeah,

562
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 1: and the same thing with Matumbo. Matumbo ridiculous, like you

563
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,160
Speaker 1: could say him a Tumbo j kid, Kevin Garnette, Reyal

564
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 1: and Paul Pierce. That team wouldn't lose either, but maybe

565
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Speaker 1: it'd be interesting to put together like one of my

566
00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:00,159
Speaker 1: team teammates, all time great teams. Okay, that's that's fair enough. Now,

567
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 1: when you get drafted, I this is a question because

568
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:04,679
Speaker 1: you know, this is the reality. When I grew up,

569
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 1: I had hoop dreams. I wanted to be in the NBA.

570
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 1: They turned into a nightmare when I was about fourteen

571
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 1: or fifteen and I saw other people like and I

572
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 1: was like, not only am I not going to be

573
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 1: in the NBA, I'll be lucky if I start on

574
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 1: my high school team. Okay, but when you now every

575
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 1: kid has that, and then obviously you took it to

576
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 1: the next level. When you get drafted, you show up

577
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:27,400
Speaker 1: to the Nets preseason camp. Who's on that team? Jason Kidd?

578
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: Who who else? Kenyan Martin carry Kiddles, Keith Van horn Um,

579
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 1: a guy like Aaron Williams who I didn't even know

580
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 1: was stud and in my rookie class, Richard Jefferson, Jason Collins,

581
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 1: Like there's a lot of good players that were on

582
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 1: that team, and I was completely overwhelmed. Yeah, but are

583
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: you like, holy shit, Jason Kidd just passed me the

584
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 1: ball or is that? Are you beyond that? Like I

585
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 1: look at like the way I describe when I played basketball.

586
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 1: It's I mean, it sounds ridiculous, but like it's just

587
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 1: like the matrix. I just look at the yes in

588
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 1: the nose, like I get the balls coming to me,

589
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 1: I go to shoot. I'm guarding guy. He likes to

590
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 1: go right and counterback left. I'm not saying to myself like,

591
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm guarding Kenyan Martin or Jason Kids

592
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 1: coming on crossing your mind, not even early and whether

593
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 1: I'm even playing against another guy. But sometimes like be

594
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: guarding Tracy McGrady and he would do something, I'd be

595
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 1: playing it like okay, I know he likes to do this,

596
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 1: and then he would go and make this move and

597
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 1: he'd get fouled, and then I think, man, I'm so

598
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: overmatched right now. It's ridiculous. But I'll be at the

599
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 1: free throw line. But then when the game starts up again,

600
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 1: I'd go back to what I'm doing what I need

601
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: to do. I'm not like, I'm never in awe of

602
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: who I'm going against. Ever during that time, you mean

603
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 1: I guarded Lebron sometimes, not awe of of Lebron. I'm thinking,

604
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 1: I gotta keep him away from his right hand. I

605
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 1: gotta force him right left. When he goes left, I

606
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: gotta jam him so he can shoot. What would be

607
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: the fucking scouting report on Lebron James? Like, what's the

608
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 1: quote difference? When I played against him, he was much

609
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,360
Speaker 1: different than he is now, so much better now. Back

610
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 1: one day he would go right all the way to

611
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: the basket, go left and pull up. But now he's

612
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: just so much more complete. But you know, I would

613
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 1: think like I would think, Look, with Lebron, especially this series,

614
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 1: you know you want to just like keep throwing bodies

615
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 1: at him, but don't don't let him catch his breath.

616
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 1: Don't let him dribble the ball and catch his breath.

617
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: It's like, continue to pressure him even if at the

618
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: at the rate let's say they don't shoot thirty percent,

619
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 1: but he shoots from the field. By by increasing the pace,

620
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: by speeding him up, I think it will help their offense.

621
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 1: But I think that that's the way if you let

622
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 1: him dictate where he wants to go. I feel like

623
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Speaker 1: you'll be in trouble strongest player where you were just

624
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: like on the physical strength, where you were playing against

625
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 1: somebody or they were on your team, where you were like,

626
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 1: what the funk is this? Yeah, I mean that that's

627
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: the easy answer to that is shock, But that's not

628
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: what the real answer would be. Shock is like a

629
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: ridiculous human being. But I didn't really like go against him.

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Speaker 1: Here's the guy I had to go against, and I

631
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Speaker 1: had no answer for him in Detroit, a guy named

632
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: Cordless Williams. I had no answer for what he did.

633
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 1: He was so strong, he was so low to the ground.

634
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 1: You couldn't do any tricks. He kept his dribble alive.

635
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 1: I had no help because they had a bunch of shooting.

636
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 1: So that my rookie, it was like my nemesis. But

637
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: then I studied film. I got stronger and I realized, Okay,

638
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: you can do X, Y and Z to stop him,

639
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 1: and you and I have a better chance. But there's

640
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: a point there right literally with that his mercy and

641
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: they and I was the rotational player in my rookie

642
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: year and there's no one else to sub in, so

643
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: I had to guard him and it was tough for me.

644
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: But you know, there's a lot you get used to

645
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: the physicality. If we played every day, you would get

646
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: used to eventually. Okay, well, I know when he hits me,

647
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: I know what to get used to. Yeah, but before

648
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: at first you're like, what the hell was that? But

649
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: eventually you get used to it. It's just like anything

650
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: when I go into the training camp every season, I

651
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: was always surprised by the impact from just taking those

652
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: three months off, four months off in the off season,

653
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: But you get used to it in about two or

654
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: three weeks. Kevin Garnett notorious ship talker. I mean, would

655
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: he like they I've heard from people that every practice

656
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: meals drinking water on the bus, off the bus, full tilt,

657
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: ship talking, never slows down, like they call it a

658
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: high older. What was it like with Kevin Garnett during

659
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: that championship run? Like, talk to me about the greatness

660
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: of Kevin Garner. So, uh, he has a lot of

661
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: different personalities. When he would hit the floor, he was

662
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: all business. When he was in the weight room, all business.

663
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 1: Sixty minutes before the game, all business. But but like

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Speaker 1: from sixty minutes on, but before that, he was really

665
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: like cared about what other people, uh, like, Hey, scal

666
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: how how did your one on one game go with

667
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 1: Sam Cassell? Or what's up? Man? Have the kids? Like?

668
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: He was like that as well. But when it was

669
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: time to work, he was all about the business. Now

670
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 1: the ship talking. You know, he wasn't the greatest ship talker,

671
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 1: like Paul Pierces was the greatest ship talker. Explain that.

672
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: And because he's Paul the content, Yeah, you know. He

673
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: would like like he would say something to a guy

674
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 1: and the guy would sit there and think about it,

675
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 1: like did he just say that to me? It was

676
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 1: that was he giving me a competence kind of like

677
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: a backhands. Yeah, and when my name would be like

678
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: look at the back of a guy's jersey and be like, man,

679
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 1: I don't even know your name and you're out here

680
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: with me. That's crazy. You're only to be out for

681
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: about two minutes and you're going right back to the

682
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 1: bench Like that would that would be Garnett like like

683
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: he wants he wants it. He's just like he's just

684
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: trying to fucking just dominate you. And Pierce would say

685
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: slicker ship, slick ship, like like uh like he would

686
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 1: like this no that Noah thing Garnett said to Noah

687
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: like like, no on, want want to talk to Gardnet.

688
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: Hey Garnett, you work out with so and so. So

689
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 1: Gardnett would be like, man, can you do this guy's

690
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,479
Speaker 1: talking to me? And Pierce Pierce would join it. Yeah, man,

691
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: I can't believe he's talking to you. But I think

692
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: he won a couple of national championships, but that's about

693
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: it for him. He'd done after this, So no one's like, oh, yeah,

694
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: he knows about the national championships. But along the way, okay,

695
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: you know, like he's going to say, gonna be a

696
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 1: good NBA player. But that's how Pierce was. He was

697
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: real conniving with his ship talk. Who would try to

698
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: talk for you? Opponents who for you specifically, like you

699
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,959
Speaker 1: were like this guy is just too much. Who would

700
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: go after you specifically and trash talk talk no no one,

701
00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: no one, no one, because why would you waste your bread? Now?

702
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: I would hit him up with like if I scored,

703
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: I would say like, oh man, you're in trouble now,

704
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 1: you better score this possession because if not, the coach

705
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: is gonna take you out of the game. You just

706
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 1: got scored by the worst player in the NBA, And

707
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: so they would be like, oh, I gotta get back

708
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: and I gotta score before the coach takes me out.

709
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: So you were playing that role, Oh yeah, I would.

710
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: I would embrace that all the way, like I can't

711
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: believe he just got man. And then if I hit

712
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: two buckets, like oh my god, I might go from

713
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: my career high on you and you and you know

714
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 1: all my buckets are on Sports Center. I would say

715
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: stuff like that. And I was notorious for talking ship

716
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 1: to for another guy like KG or but KG doesn't

717
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: need anyone. He's not. He's like he's fucking nuts. Yea,

718
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: he is, but he jacked up on Coca Cola like Starbucks. No. No,

719
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: He's like he's locked into the game plan. He's also

720
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: very locked in. He's not just like out there just playing.

721
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: Where Pierce has like a little bit of a flow

722
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: to him. Garnett is like he's real locked in game

723
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: game one game, preseason, game finals, it's all the same

724
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: to him. All right. I know I want you to

725
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 1: guess who this was. See Billups. I had a conversation

726
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: similar to to this with with him, and I was

727
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: just asking him everything. I said, who's the most talented

728
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: player you ever played with? Who do you think? He said, Wallace?

729
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: He didn't say receipt Rashid. He told me j R.

730
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: Smith really your talent. Oh wow, I'm surprised by that.

731
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: J R. Smith to me is a fucking like who's

732
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: the person like you thought would be the greatest, greatest,

733
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: greatest and like you were like and they never really

734
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: panned out, and like I mean, I think Rashi Wallace

735
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: could have gone down as the greatest power forward next

736
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: to Tim Duncan. Yeah, but it's just like, I don't know,

737
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 1: he did not wanted enough. I don't I I don't

738
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: know if there's any of that. I don't know if

739
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: he wanted to be there. I don't know any of

740
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 1: those things. But I've never seen a guy when when

741
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: he came to the Celtics, he was already over there,

742
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: played just one year whatever, he didn't retired. He was

743
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: really good for us when he was in the preceding.

744
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: The way he was cooking, it was ridiculous. He was

745
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: cooking Garnett and in training camp, really it was insane

746
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: to see. It was I couldn't believe it. Like Garnette

747
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: was getting scored on and there and she was talking

748
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: to him about it. We've never seen anything like that.

749
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 1: But they talk about a psychological war because those are

750
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 1: two great ship talkers. Yes, yes, so I was. I

751
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 1: was shocked that it was happening, but I couldn't sustain it.

752
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 1: But skill like step out, hit a three, go on

753
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,959
Speaker 1: to post, right shoulder, then go and bid all the paint,

754
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 1: come back left hook, then come back right. I mean,

755
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: you just scored on Garnett, who's one of the best

756
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 1: defensive players in the game, and you scored on three

757
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: different ways for different ways in a row, and you

758
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: told them about it, like we never even remotely saw

759
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: anything like that. How did Garnett respond to that? He

760
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 1: was I looked like he was pissed. All right, you

761
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: were in Boston, the great Doc Rivers. Doc Rivers is

762
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 1: now coaching and w A the Clippers who never winning anything,

763
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Clippers. Okay, I'm sorry, I feel so

764
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: Badry Okay, My first question is and then you you

765
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 1: you were also coached by Tom Thibodeaux. Now, these guys

766
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: that are getting fired, they they said they dismissed them

767
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 1: are parted ways with Thibodeaux, I say, the general managers

768
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: who part ways with the coaches that they argue with,

769
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: despite the fact that Thibodeau had a great, winning record,

770
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: winning record. Now you, you, motherfucker, you should have to

771
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 1: coach the team since you're so smart. Who's the GM

772
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 1: that fired him? Okay, now you coach the fucking team.

773
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: You could do. But when they have this strife like

774
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: Mark Jackson, like he brings them to the almost a pinnacle,

775
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: why are they firing these coaches? Doc Rivers is not

776
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: gonna get fired. But if if you look at it

777
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 1: on paper, that would be more. If I had to say,

778
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: and I love Doc, but if I look if you

779
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: look at it on paper, Doc Rivers would be the

780
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: one whose jobs should be a question because the way

781
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 1: they lost Thibodel, they were under man He's always one.

782
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: I mean, why are they firing these coaches? Is it

783
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: have is it have to more to do with the

784
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: way they get along with the gms, or is it

785
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: exs and os or is it a little bit of

786
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,280
Speaker 1: both because they I don't know what the funk happened

787
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: with Mark Jackson. But but but it's like they fired him.

788
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: Clearly that was the right move. How is that not

789
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: the right move? But how do we know that they

790
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:07,919
Speaker 1: wouldn't have been able to step get over the hump

791
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: this year? I'll tell you how why one one Warrior

792
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: team passed the ball two thirty nine times a game.

793
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: This Warrior team passed the ball three d and fifteen

794
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: times the game. This Warrior team had thirty assists over

795
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: twenty eight times in the game. Hasn't been done in

796
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: twenty years. This Warrior team is the best defensive team

797
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: and the second best offensive team in the NBA. So

798
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: were they on the pace for this? You know, they

799
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: still ran isolations. They still were nineteenth Steph Curry, Clay Thompson,

800
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 1: Draymond Green, Bogey all these guys. They were nineteenth in

801
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: the NBA and offense last year. Right, So yeah, they

802
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: made the right move. I mean that's the wrong move.

803
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,800
Speaker 1: I tell you. I'll tell you another one. Listen the

804
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: Typodeau thing. They don't get along right, oh him in

805
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: the front office. But when is it not getting along

806
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: because it goes I want you to play him more,

807
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 1: I want Or is it like you're an asshole? No,

808
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: I'm an asshole. I'm sure it's basketball stuff. It's not

809
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 1: like personal, it's not like I'm a Republican, you're a democracy.

810
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 1: But if they're winning, if they're doing well, and they're

811
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: they are yo, Tim was was fucked up this year, right,

812
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: he was hurt a lot. He did never look like

813
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 1: his full step obviously. Derrick Rose was touch and go

814
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 1: the whole year. What's the problem here? What can you do?

815
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: What did they expect? I want everyone to understand break

816
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 1: it down, So I'm gonna let you guys know, like

817
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: the white mom's about to fucking break it down. Okay, Looking,

818
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: sometimes it's time for like coaches are gonna get fired

819
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 1: and they're gonna move on to another place and they're

820
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 1: gonna coach and they're gonna do a good job there.

821
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: It's just the way it goes. And some of these

822
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: coaches that get recycled can't coach, and some of these

823
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: coaches that get recycled can coach. But that environment with

824
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:41,399
Speaker 1: management and coaches fighting and players like what's going on here,

825
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: it's a dysfunctional environment. So part ways, but what is this?

826
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: The thing that I'm trying to get at is And

827
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 1: you could just give an example you don't maybe you

828
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 1: don't know, but or whatever, like what are they arguing about,

829
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,879
Speaker 1: Like why aren't you playing this person? Why aren't you playing?

830
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: Are you playing this person forty minutes? When we have

831
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: this rookie Doug McDermott, that play, you should be playing

832
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: him twenty minutes a game just blend, Like look at Pop.

833
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: Pop blends all of his minutes. No one plays over

834
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: thirty minutes. And so that's what they do. When you

835
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 1: come to a huddle and there's five seconds in the game,

836
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 1: and and and you're down one point as a player,

837
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: do you know they're gonna like my coach Doc Rivers

838
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 1: is gonna call one, two or three plays? Is it?

839
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: Is it him making it up and on the fly,

840
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: like like how much like when you guys are listening

841
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: to the play, like and he's articulating, how many times

842
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 1: have you practiced these plays? Sometimes, like Thibodeaux, every play

843
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: has been worked on and timed and and and ran through.

844
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: He's not improving stuff Doc has with with the team

845
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 1: with Garnette, Pierce, ray Allen Rondo very high by basketball.

846
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: I guys, Doc can completely improv that. Now I'm saying

847
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: he probably has practiced that or saw it somewhere else,

848
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: made a little tweak for his own team. But he

849
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 1: can make up anything on the fly and they can

850
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: go out there and do it because they were really

851
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: smart people. But some players can't do that. They have

852
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 1: to have ran through it ten times. So you have

853
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 1: these in the in your back pocket. It's just a man.

854
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: Depends on how you do it. Okay, I'm throwing questions

855
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 1: at you. You said Rondo. This guy is a mystery

856
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:15,879
Speaker 1: to me. He seems so talented. He he butts heads

857
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 1: in the two places he's been. Tell me about playing

858
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 1: with Region Rondo. What do you think the future of

859
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: Region Rondo will be? I'm not sure what the future

860
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 1: will be because I'm just gonna let you know, like

861
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: he's one of my best friends. Like guys who I

862
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 1: played with, Guys who I communicate with, Guys that I

863
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,800
Speaker 1: know and how they play, and we'll talk basketball for

864
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: forty five minutes, it will seem like three minutes. So

865
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: I'm in the fray with Rondo, so I can't step

866
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 1: away and see. And I understand, I'm not stupid where

867
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: I understand he does some crazy things. But the way

868
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: I look at him is like like listen to. This

869
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: guy is the smartest player I've ever played with. He's also, um,

870
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: you know, pretty talented as far as his skills, his

871
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: sides and his arms, his ability to he's unselfish. Yeah,

872
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 1: he passes the ball. So I don't I'm not a

873
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 1: good guy to evaluate Rohndell because I think that he's

874
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: like a great player, but a lot of people look

875
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 1: at him it's like he's gonna have a hard time

876
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 1: getting a job next year, which I don't see that.

877
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: But I looked at Rhonda as a guy that's a

878
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: you know, a fourteen fifteen million dollar player, but people

879
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: see it differently than I do. I felt like people

880
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: expected things to flourish in Dallas and they didn't, and

881
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: there's been the bumps. And I just the thing about

882
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:22,959
Speaker 1: Randall that I don't get his like you don't see

883
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 1: him doing anything, but then you hear him and the

884
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: coach didn't get along, and you know, and him and

885
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 1: Doc didn't get along. You hear these things so and

886
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: and I just I love the way he plays, and

887
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: I love unselfish. I love pass first point guards, and

888
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 1: he seems like a pass first point guard and he

889
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 1: makes things like for the layman like he's kind of

890
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: he's not that fast he does he's kind of trickery

891
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 1: y M c A plays and I want to see

892
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: him do good. Well, he is fast and he is

893
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: a freak athletically that you just can't see it when

894
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 1: he grows. And that's the biggest thing is his knee injury.

895
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 1: His ability to create separation off the pick and roll

896
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 1: that that has gone away, and that was his greatest

897
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: strang because of the speed. Because so I don't know,

898
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: and I feel like like with hard work, he'll back

899
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 1: to that, he'll get back to how he was, because

900
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: you know, he is coming off of a c L. Right,

901
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 1: So we have the A c L surgery and he

902
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 1: and he goes to his rehab and he comes back.

903
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 1: But he to me, he was never the same athletically

904
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 1: as he was before the A c L before and

905
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: ten and you're like, wow, this guy is amazing. But

906
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: after the a c L he'd come off those screening

907
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: rolls in the separation just wasn't there. But eventually your

908
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 1: your your leg gets back to normal. It just takes time.

909
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: But I don't really know what's gonna He can end

910
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: up in the Lakers. I don't know what's gonna happen

911
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: to him. Do you think the Clippers I'm bouncing around,

912
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: we go back to n w A a k A.

913
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: The Clippers never winning anything. Do you think the Clippers

914
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: is gonna be able to bounce back from what happened

915
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 1: this year? I would assume, so, I would assume. So,

916
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 1: like what need Like do they do they change players? Like?

917
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I think they're starting five is really good.

918
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 1: I've always been a fan of Austin Rivers. To be

919
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: honest with you, I'm not I'm not right. When he

920
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 1: got traded, everyone was like, can you believe DC Rivers

921
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: did that? I'm like, yeah, this guy can defend the

922
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: point guard. You have Jamal Crawford who can't defend ones.

923
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 1: So you have a guy now with some serious side

924
00:41:58,120 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: you need. If you're gonna go with in the Western Carr,

925
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: You're gonna play against Chris Paul. I mean, you're gonna

926
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,240
Speaker 1: play against step Curry. You're gonna play against Tony Parker.

927
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 1: You're gonna go and play against Drew Holiday. Go down

928
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 1: the list of all the point guards in the West, Uh,

929
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: Damon Lillard, whoever you want, you're gonna go against. You

930
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 1: better have some size on the ball, because that's what's

931
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: not gonna be some midget on the ball, and you're

932
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 1: not gonna have a guy that's not very quick. So

933
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 1: you get Austin Rivers to go in there defend that

934
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: point guard position. He's extremely good defensively, he's good laterally,

935
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: so I was high on that move. So I like

936
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 1: Austin Rivers. And then I actually like Spencer Hall. He

937
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: had a terrible year this year. I thought he would

938
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 1: have been better. I think they go out and get

939
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 1: Pierce next year. I think they signed Piers to them.

940
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 1: They use their mid level and signed Pierce because he

941
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: he showed he's got his style of play depending on it.

942
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: Hopefully he doesn't get an injury because he's so he

943
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 1: doesn't jump like you exactly. Like that's the time I'm saying.

944
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: He never like he was quicker. He might be lost

945
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: half a step, but that hrkey jerky the way he plays.

946
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 1: I mean it's beautiful to watch. Okay, let me ask

947
00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: you something more questions the Knicks. If if you if

948
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: they said, scal we want your fucking two cents, actually

949
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: we want your ten cents, what would you do if

950
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 1: you had anything to do with the Knicks helped me

951
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 1: out because being a Knicks fan. Did you see the

952
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:17,479
Speaker 1: documentary I directed when the Garden was Eating. They're saying

953
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: that that might have been the best fucking thing that's

954
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: happened to the Knicks in the last forty years, because

955
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 1: this season was a disaster. Actually it wasn't. You got

956
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,800
Speaker 1: the fourth pick, okay, and we're gonna pick Coo and

957
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 1: we're gonna get or that's a good D'Angelo Russell. I don't.

958
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: I like him. I like him. Fill your path on

959
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 1: D'Angel Russell'll probably get. But there's a fundamental fall with

960
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: the Knicks right now. I'll tell you what is it.

961
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 1: It's Phil Jackson hating on three point shooting. Listen, the

962
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 1: game is going to three point shooting. They shoot the

963
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 1: least amount of threes in the NBA, They make the

964
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 1: least amount of threes in the NBA. Join in on

965
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 1: the movement. The movement is three point shooting. You gotta

966
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: get guys that can shoot the ball. If you want

967
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 1: to win, you gotta have guys that can shoot threes,

968
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,280
Speaker 1: and you gotta move the ball. And not to triangle

969
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 1: where everything is scripted. I'm telling you those days are on.

970
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: If is he like locked into just the triangle. I

971
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: can't I can't see here and say yes, I don't

972
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 1: know they run triangle. It looks bad at times. There's

973
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 1: no Jordan, there's no Kobe, no Shock. No, it doesn't

974
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,439
Speaker 1: look good. But one man, we don't even have guys

975
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 1: that look like they're cousins. There's no Jordan, there's no

976
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: Shocks cousin, there's no I mean, this was a rough season. Man,

977
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 1: this was a roughish. I know. You know the thing

978
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: the Knicks. I wish they would have won the lottery

979
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: because but the pick. Who now trade number one pick

980
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:34,240
Speaker 1: for a lot Okay, who's gonna be the number one pick? Towns?

981
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 1: I mean, this is that guy gonna come in there

982
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: really ready for the NBA right now? All these rookies

983
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 1: are gonna be fine. I mean, Ji Okaford's nineteen and

984
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: he's a fucking big man that I'm saying he's not

985
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 1: ready to play NBA basketball right now as a first

986
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 1: round pick, the number one pick. You're the problem with

987
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: the Knicks. You're impatient, impatient years old. We're not We're

988
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: not the Boston Rents. Sure, we're not the fucking Chicago.

989
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,439
Speaker 1: White says, I don't want to be on my deathbed going.

990
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,439
Speaker 1: I hope they win a championship before. This is New York.

991
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 1: I'm talking. I know, I understand that. I understand that.

992
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: This is the thing that I have not understood here.

993
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 1: How come the Knicks can't get free agents? Why are

994
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: they not playing? Asking? You're asking me, I'm doing I'm

995
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: I'm doing a podcast for Living Scalt. You're supposed to

996
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: be there. I don't understand it. I love New York.

997
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: I don't understand why, like Lebron right, like you really

998
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: got to think about it. Miami's fine, but the fans

999
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 1: get there like in the second quarter they left before

1000
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: and then they're begging to get back. Dumb fun alright,

1001
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: you getting back? You're down by five and there's that

1002
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 1: much ship to do in Miami. Nothing? Nothing. How many

1003
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 1: parties are gonna go? Like like you could go the

1004
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 1: night before. How much fucking Molly are you gonna take?

1005
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 1: You really need to leave game six like four, let's go,

1006
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: it's game six finals like the stuff that didn't even

1007
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: go down until one am the party. I don't understand

1008
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: why they left. I don't understand why. I don't understand why. Okay,

1009
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: everybody Game one of the NBA Finals, then half the

1010
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 1: Miami crowd is not here yet. I don't get it.

1011
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: But in New York, even when they sucked, that place

1012
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: is rocket, Like, I don't get it. Not this year's

1013
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: scalt I mean when we sucked this year, like you

1014
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 1: still like I went there when it was Clyde seventieth

1015
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 1: birthday and you know you got the base in the origins,

1016
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 1: like that place is awesome. I don't get it. I

1017
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: don't get like if I'm not gonna say why, because

1018
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: I don't want to get I like getting my my

1019
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: tickets on the floor. I'm not gonna give my state

1020
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,240
Speaker 1: my opinion on this publicly. But I have a strong inkling,

1021
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 1: inkling inkling as to why I don't get it. I

1022
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: don't even if I'm if I'm like, if I'm a rookie,

1023
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,839
Speaker 1: if I'm John wall I'm like, all right, man, I'm

1024
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna play for the qualifying offer and I'm

1025
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: going to New York and I'm gonna take in. I'm

1026
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: gonna take my bull. I'm gonna, Hey, Clay Thompson, you

1027
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: want to come to New York. I'm I'm going out

1028
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 1: and be like, let's go to New York and run

1029
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 1: this ship. I don't get it. Fucked, I don't get it.

1030
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:58,839
Speaker 1: I don't get it either, But they don't. I don't

1031
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 1: go to New York, I know, And maybe maybe their

1032
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 1: pitch is bad, like pat Riley. If pat Riley was there,

1033
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:08,280
Speaker 1: he'd be landing guys and noon, well he just got there, Okay,

1034
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 1: so Kenny land guys, don't. I shouldn't even brought the

1035
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 1: knicks up with you. I shouldn't even brought that. I

1036
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 1: don't get it. I don't get why they don't. They

1037
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 1: had when they had cap space. I don't know why

1038
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:25,320
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1046
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,240
Speaker 1: now dudes are looking sharp. Dudes are coming in also

1047
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: looking like you know, they just came out of Cuba

1048
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty three. Like the colors are off the fucking chain.

1049
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:08,800
Speaker 1: But are dudes now that you tell me what you

1050
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: know about this? Like Lebron James. I saw him less

1051
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: and he had a low key sweater on. It was

1052
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: good because the game before he had a full turtleneck on.

1053
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 1: And we're in the middle of June and he was

1054
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 1: sitting at the podium with Tristan Thompson. It was right

1055
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: to his beer. It looked like it was It looked

1056
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 1: like it was sort of made to look like a

1057
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 1: full beer, like the Turlenick was like dark brown or black,

1058
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:31,800
Speaker 1: and it was like growing out of his beer. And

1059
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 1: Tristan Thompson had a fucking Zoro had on like he

1060
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 1: had like he was like a fake Zoro But like,

1061
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 1: are these dudes getting these these these big size, high

1062
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: fashion things custom made? What do you know about this?

1063
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,800
Speaker 1: Because now you're snapping on my shoes. Listen, you're not.

1064
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 1: I don't see any crowds around you. You've got a

1065
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: fucking thermal shirt on that looks like you just came

1066
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:55,919
Speaker 1: from like cleaning cars, and I'm just saying, that's my ship. Ship,

1067
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: like I put it together. I'm wearing like normal LEVI,

1068
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 1: some PF flyers and the thermal like no one's looking

1069
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 1: at me like no, no, no, but they're not looking

1070
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: like yo, I'm gonna ask him for fashion no, because

1071
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 1: like I'm standard, I'm I'm six and a half to

1072
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,320
Speaker 1: seven and a half every day. Like those guys with

1073
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,760
Speaker 1: the with the zero hat, they're trying to be nines

1074
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 1: and tens. I'm not trying to do that. Now. You're

1075
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 1: like solid like me, except for the shoes, like you're solid.

1076
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, like I'm going out there like

1077
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: I'm good. I'll go to the club like this. You're

1078
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,359
Speaker 1: not getting into any fucking cops where you are right now.

1079
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 1: If you were in them, you're not okay. So I hear.

1080
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:42,760
Speaker 1: That's what I'm like. If I wasn't, this guy wouldn't

1081
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: dress like But if it happened to be this guy,

1082
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: when you go to the club and they give you

1083
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 1: like you know, the mom was you know that? Somebody

1084
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: said to me the other day. I swear to God

1085
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: in New York about two weeks ago, they were like

1086
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 1: SCALABRAINI what's going on? I was like that, and I'm like,

1087
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: no doubt. They're like, you're playing for the next no one,

1088
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 1: Like what the fund are you talking about? I'm like

1089
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 1: keeping it going. You've ever been mistaken for me? Straight up? Yeah?

1090
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 1: I get I take offense to it. Oh shit, but

1091
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 1: you're like eight years older than me. I'm six ft nine,

1092
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 1: you're six ft nine. But I'm thinking, like, like, I'm serious,

1093
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 1: if Rappingport was six nine, like when he was on Friday,

1094
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 1: he'd be deebo. You know, he would be the guy.

1095
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: I don't understand why he actually said to you, Mike

1096
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 1: rap And are you like you're offended by that by

1097
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,320
Speaker 1: that I'm older, or are you offended or shocked the

1098
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 1: fact that they would they would think that you would

1099
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 1: be somebody as great looking as me? Like, what's fucking

1100
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:35,280
Speaker 1: you up about that? Because I'm going from my sizzled

1101
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 1: good looks the size, Like they're like, you know, guys

1102
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 1: on my team just call me remy. Yes, so you

1103
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:43,399
Speaker 1: knew that it was the size, Like how why would

1104
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 1: you think that I'm rapped? I'm six not even though

1105
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 1: for actor, you're big, right for a actor, I'm tall. Yeah, yeah,

1106
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 1: there's nothing like I gotta watch out for that kind

1107
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 1: of conversation. There's not There's not that many that are.

1108
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: I don't know anybody that's over Like the tallest actor

1109
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 1: I know is Tim Robbins and Vince Fawn. They're about

1110
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 1: six four, oh dang six maybe six five. Tim Robbins

1111
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 1: is tall six four and a half. But that's like

1112
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: monstrous for an actor, like most actors are not most,

1113
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 1: I mean, they just vary, but like a tall actor,

1114
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 1: it's you know, six threes, like you pique, you know

1115
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,959
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. All Right, So this has been great

1116
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 1: scal and this is the Iron Rapp Report podcast. It's

1117
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: a worldwide phenomenon. You know that, right? Are people gonna

1118
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 1: listen to this? People are gonna listen to there's fucking

1119
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 1: you know that, there's a there's a crew called the

1120
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 1: Wrap a Pack or people are gonna listen to this.

1121
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 1: This is the fucking podcast. This is the interview that

1122
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 1: people have wanted to hear for years. When does this

1123
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 1: go up? Because I want to go up this. I

1124
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: might put this ship up tomorrow before the game. We

1125
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 1: might put this ship up. Raw Dog without a bag,

1126
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 1: no cuts, okay, scal, but you didn't answer my question

1127
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 1: real quick. Do these guys have this ship custom made? No,

1128
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I didn't. They bought off the rack,

1129
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 1: but they have guys that buy it for him. Listen,

1130
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 1: But like Gardnets seven, yeah, like all that stuff, I'm

1131
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 1: sure yeah, and he ridiculously yes, I'm sure. Like I'm

1132
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 1: sure that some guys get stuff made. But like Russell

1133
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 1: Westbrook that all the people wearing the style is clothes.

1134
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 1: I don't know about the turtle, nag, I don't know

1135
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 1: your man. Lebron had the fucking turtle that growing out

1136
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: of his beard. It looked like I didn't know if

1137
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 1: it was like, I didn't know he was solid though,

1138
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 1: that was solid. That was low key. But here's the thing.

1139
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: Here's a rule that I think should be in place.

1140
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 1: You gotta have a dress code. Whatever you come in wearing.

1141
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: That's cool. It could be flying, could be jiggy, it

1142
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 1: could be all that. But when your team gets that

1143
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,399
Speaker 1: ass cracked, you need to change your uniform into something else.

1144
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,760
Speaker 1: Like you lose Game one of the NBA Finals, Tristan Thompson,

1145
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 1: you can't come out with a zero hat on. You

1146
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 1: cannot come out with no plan. B Wait, you said

1147
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 1: he worked for game two, right, he worked for Game

1148
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: one press conference. He had a fucking zoro hat on

1149
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: Okay after they lost. Okay, I agree with you. Gott

1150
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 1: to tone it down. If you could come in hyped,

1151
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 1: you could come in colorful. You lose, you're getting all

1152
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 1: black and get the funk out of the building. Yeah,

1153
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: you're just like, throw on a calf shirt. That's it. Yeah, Okay,

1154
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 1: I'm with you, Like like, I agree, Steph Curry ain't

1155
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 1: gonna being Riley up when when last night Riley was

1156
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 1: nowhere to be Riley up there. But it's like, yo,

1157
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,760
Speaker 1: you can't know. You can't have your beautiful daughter acting

1158
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 1: a little rambunctious when you just lost Game two. You

1159
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 1: shot like two for seventy five. And I with Steph Curry.

1160
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 1: I love him, I love him, but but I'm just saying,

1161
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 1: as far as the dress, you gotta if you lose,

1162
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:27,359
Speaker 1: you gotta tone it down. You gotta tone it down, Okay,

1163
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 1: because because the Miami Heat, they took it so far

1164
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:31,879
Speaker 1: like they would be up there like they didn't give

1165
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 1: a ship. The Big Three. These guys will be wearing

1166
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 1: polka dots. They could lose my forty. They lost. They

1167
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,320
Speaker 1: lost in the finals last year. Dudes didn't care like

1168
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 1: put on a black suit, answer the questions and fucking

1169
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 1: leave the building or throw on a Calves hoodie, throwing

1170
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: a Calve's hoodie or Miami Heat hoodie or whatever. It was,

1171
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 1: All right, scal it's a pleasure. I want to make

1172
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 1: sure you know I'm working to get in shape. I'm

1173
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 1: working hard two days, two days because like I'm I'm

1174
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 1: not I'm I'm just letting you know, now, be ready,

1175
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 1: be ready for what I bring me. I handle that

1176
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. Not everyone's gonna lose. Who on our

1177
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 1: team do you think might buck up to the system

1178
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 1: that I'm gonna be running. Who I'm interested to see

1179
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,479
Speaker 1: how white chocolate deals with it? Oh, no, white chocolate. Listen, listen, listen,

1180
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 1: white chocolate. There's no I'm not saying I'm chocolate without

1181
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 1: Mike rap Mike Raps set off all this ship, so

1182
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 1: all this fucking Virginia, Randy Marshy, white chocolate coming to

1183
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 1: work under the system that I'm doing. But there's no

1184
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: white chocolate. There's no fly ship without what I was

1185
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 1: doing in the eighties and the nineties. I laid the

1186
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 1: motherfucking foundation. Okay, that's reality, that's I laid the foundation

1187
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 1: for this lifestyle. All right, This is the Iron Rapping

1188
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 1: four podcast and we're out with my main man, Bryan Scalabrini,

1189
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:43,479
Speaker 1: a k a. The White Mama,