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Speaker 1: we speak right now, Buck is in Ireland on a

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Speaker 1: state visit, and I thought, as we were just talking

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Speaker 1: about the persecution that is occurring of former President Trump

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Speaker 1: by the Biden Department of Justice and by Democrat state

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Speaker 1: law state DA's across the country, I thought to myself,

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Speaker 1: I don't know that there has been a more perfect

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Speaker 1: visual representation of two standards of justice in the Biden administration.

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Speaker 1: Maybe frankly not in the twenty first century in the

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Speaker 1: United States. Then the FBI has had Hunter Biden's laptop

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Speaker 1: since December of twenty nineteen, that is, for three and

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Speaker 1: a half years, they have had ample evidence of a

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Speaker 1: myriad of felonies committed by Hunter Biden and documented by

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Speaker 1: Hunter Biden. I've got the big Marco Polo book. One

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Speaker 1: of my friends send it to me. Buck. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you've heard about this Marco Polo collection, but

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Speaker 1: it basically adds up all of the Hunter Biden felonies

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Speaker 1: through that recently. It is basically a roadmap to any

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Speaker 1: prosecutor in America. Hey, here's forty felonies that you could

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Speaker 1: potentially charge Hunter Biden with, dead to rights his own laptop.

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Speaker 1: No evidence basically at all that he didn't do these

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Speaker 1: acts because he filmed them, because he provided the evidence

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Speaker 1: of the crime himself. And that doesn't even include all

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Speaker 1: of the potential Biden crime family revelations. I think Fox

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Speaker 1: News came out recently and said, maybe it was a

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Speaker 1: New York Post, that there had been eighty different Hunter

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Speaker 1: Biden business partner visits to the Biden White House so far.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's pretty extensive. Most people, when faced with

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Speaker 1: behavior of Hunter Biden lying about and denying paternity with

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Speaker 1: a stripper that he as one does who would be

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden. That's not Joe Biden's grandchild. It's correct he

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Speaker 1: lied about paternity. Yes, and by the way, that might

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Speaker 1: be like the eight hundred and sixty fourth worst thing

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Speaker 1: that Hunter Biden has done in his life right, is

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Speaker 1: lie about the paternity of a stripper baby. But you

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Speaker 1: would think if there was any notions of fair play

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Speaker 1: or justice, and if Joe Biden actually had a functional brain,

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Speaker 1: that he would say, Hey, Hunter, I don't think it's

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Speaker 1: Force one and accompany me as an official traveling partner

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Speaker 1: with the United States delegation. Yet that is exactly what

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Speaker 1: Hunter Biden did. Buck. I was just during this commercial break,

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden was trying to respond to a question from

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Speaker 1: chief political rival of Joe Biden in prison, and they

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Speaker 1: are simultaneously in one of the most arrogant moves in

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Speaker 1: can't think of a more holy crap moment than this,

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Speaker 1: when you contrast what's going on with Trump and what

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Speaker 1: drawing attention to it because he's traveling as a part

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Speaker 1: I think it's interesting because they've made the case. I'm

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Speaker 1: even though it's a massive interference in an election, in

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Speaker 1: why I've said, and I may end up being wrong

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Speaker 1: about this, I've said, if they're going to really go

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Speaker 1: I don't understand how in any way the Department of Justice,

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Speaker 1: evidence of all of Hunter Biden's primes for three and

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Speaker 1: let's be honest, Trump is an infinitely larger target than

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Speaker 1: Hunter Biden. The impact of Trump being charged with crimes

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Speaker 1: just that they are I think the self justification for

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Speaker 1: And most people out there, if you had a crackhead

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Speaker 1: That is where the brazenness of this comes in, you know,

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Speaker 1: Biden is saying, you guys, and again, I gotta be careful.

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Speaker 1: You guys in this government are such pussy willows. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter what my family does, you won't do squat

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Speaker 1: about it. Here he's coming with me now to Ireland.

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Speaker 1: He's chilling on Air Force one. Deal with it, you whimps.

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Speaker 1: That's basically what's going on here. I think also the

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Speaker 1: the drug stuff and the prostitutes of the strippers and

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Speaker 1: filled with him grabbing hookers all over the country and

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Speaker 1: What I'm just saying is the stuff that you don't

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Speaker 1: the media and like how they you know, handle the stuff.

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Speaker 1: The stuff you don't get to skate on is not

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Speaker 1: paying taxes on millions of dollars of income from foreign

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Speaker 1: governments that you're funneling through LLC's like that for a

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Speaker 1: It might be prison time. It's a felony, and they're

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Speaker 1: directly tied by the way the influence peddling of the

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Speaker 1: That's the part of what you're like, how do you

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Speaker 1: know he did some drugs years ago. He's aaddequate. Can

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Speaker 1: for not only that, buck remember where they were doing this?

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Speaker 1: For what countries he was acting Ukraine and China, the

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Speaker 1: two places that are the most integral in American foreign

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Speaker 1: policy conflict right now. It's not as if Hunter Biden

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Speaker 1: you would say China and Ukraine. That's who was paying

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Speaker 1: gone to this. Do you think there are charged right now?

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Speaker 1: There'll be charges this year against Hunter Biden at this stage,

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Speaker 1: can't imagine. This is where I just come back to,

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Speaker 1: who's our FBI director right now? What's his name? Christopher Ray?

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Speaker 1: Christopher Ray. If Christopher Ray has an actual ounce of

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Speaker 1: testosterone in his body, buck and I'm going to tie

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Speaker 1: don't understand how he could take this direct disrespect right.

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Speaker 1: They are just rubbing the FBI's nose in it. When

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Speaker 1: Hunter Biden shows up and I said this before Buck,

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Speaker 1: Remember Hunter Biden for the family Christmas trip. He flew

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Speaker 1: to all of the events. If you're Christopher Ray and

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Speaker 1: have Betsy DeVos with us now. She's the former Trump

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Speaker 1: Administration Education secretary, and Betsy, appreciate you calling into the program,

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. So we've got this big Title

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Speaker 1: can you just lay out for everybody exactly what's going

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Speaker 1: at any given moment, whether it's male or female, biological

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Speaker 1: rules protecting girls women's access to an ability to compete

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Speaker 1: to do. It essentially wipes away this notion of women's

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Speaker 1: sports by allowing biological males to compete on women's teams. Now,

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Speaker 1: they're trying to thread a needle that isn't simply isn't

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Speaker 1: threadable by putting out a proposed rule that would allow

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Speaker 1: for precluding biological men to compete in some cases. But

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Speaker 1: all the conditions they're putting around it will suggest and

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Speaker 1: say very clearly that they won't be acceptable, and you know,

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Speaker 1: they just won't happen, and that anyone who wants to

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Speaker 1: play on a women's team, regardless, will have that opportunity.

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Speaker 1: It's a total affront to girls and women who are

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Speaker 1: win the state title or win the championship. Betsy, you're

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent right on all this, And thanks for

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Speaker 1: I just want to kind of give a little background here.

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Speaker 1: Title nine basically requires equal scholarships for girls athletes and

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Speaker 1: and men athletes, boys and girls in pretty much every

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Speaker 1: college in America. What the Biden administration is doing is

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Speaker 1: they're saying, now, what we saw happen with Leah Thomas,

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Speaker 1: would actually be far more common and it would be

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Speaker 1: But I want to get your reaction to this. When

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Speaker 1: come out basically endorsing this Biden administration policy and fighting

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Speaker 1: for women, how do you respond to that? Well, it

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Speaker 1: makes no sense, particularly from individuals who themselves have benefited

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Speaker 1: And I think it's it's nothing but a political ploy

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Speaker 1: But you know, the agenda of this far left is loud,

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Speaker 1: Devasi was Education Secretary under President Trump, and Betsy, what

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Speaker 1: Biden administration has already put forward for this Title nine

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Speaker 1: White House is likely to unveil it, perhaps if there

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Speaker 1: And this latest proposed rule that is supposed to separate

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Speaker 1: to obfuscate the giant overreaches that they are attempting through

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Speaker 1: it it their rule does away completely with due process

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Speaker 1: any point in time. Betsy, you mentioned what happened to

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Speaker 1: She hasn't said a word Nancy Pelosi hasn't Joe Biden's administration.

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Speaker 1: To my knowledge, not one single person has spoken out

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Speaker 1: Even the university itself basically blamed Riley Gains for the

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Speaker 1: movement is a clearly far left movement that has, you know,

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Speaker 1: to Congress. It is there's nothing they're doing that is

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Speaker 1: in line constitutionally. It also is an attack on states

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Speaker 1: because about twenty states have actually passed laws banning biological

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Speaker 1: handle these matters on campuses. You know, Betsy, you were

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Speaker 1: favor of first of all, parents in decision making for

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Speaker 1: most close to home. The US Department of Education has

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Speaker 1: been an utter failure at everything it was set up

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Speaker 1: that has basically become nothing more than an arm of

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Speaker 1: the school unions. Last question for you, Betsy, and we

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Speaker 1: left wingers in particular. Everything is the oppression Olympics, everything

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Speaker 1: What would it take in your mind? Would it take

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Speaker 1: What would have to happen in your mind for people

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Speaker 1: direct threat it is to women's athletics. Well, I think

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Speaker 1: you want to run it back as secretary? You know

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Speaker 1: one would be strong swamp. That's great, Betsy. We appreciate

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Speaker 1: you're fighting, and thanks for coming on with us. Thanks

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Speaker 1: so much, guys, good talking with you. It's Betsy de Vos.

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Speaker 1: She's been right all of this stuff. Bucks. She told us,

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Speaker 1: and Buck. You know we're talking about the fallout that's

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Speaker 1: It's not even just the fact that people are are

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Speaker 1: Dylan mulvaaney, doesn't sound like, doesn't gesticulate like I mean really,

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Speaker 1: it's like he's trying to pretend to be a teenage girl,

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Speaker 1: that pretense. Tyrius, who is a guy over at Fox

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Speaker 1: him here on the show too. Tyrus just lays it down.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's really what he does. He sees things,

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Speaker 1: he talks about things as they are. And here's what

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Speaker 1: he had to say about the Dylan mulvaney situation play too.

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Speaker 1: And the issue is the individual who's doing this. He's

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Speaker 1: not representing trans people. He's not. I refuse to believe that,

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Speaker 1: just like Black Lives Matter didn't represent me. It was

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Speaker 1: a character. And this character is a slap in the

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Speaker 1: face of women everywhere. And I'm glad to see that

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Speaker 1: the people saying no, this is not okay. Pride flag

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Speaker 1: on a beer can. I'll buy it tomorrow, no problem.

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Speaker 1: But if you're going to make fun of if you

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Speaker 1: One says this, Yeah, this goes to what are we

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Speaker 1: you did, I mean, I think he makes an interesting

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Speaker 1: I think women need to be talking about this in

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Speaker 1: the context as this is modern day black face. And

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Speaker 1: The way that this person is pretending to be a

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