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<v Speaker 3>Thank you guys for joining us again.

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<v Speaker 2>Y'all know me. I'm your favorite Oak Shannon Sharp, that guy,

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<v Speaker 2>Liberty City, Legend, Bengals, Ring of Fame, Outerie Probo, the

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<v Speaker 3>That's Chad Ocho, Sinko Johnson.

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<v Speaker 2>I just read an article today that t Higgins market

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be somewhere a little bit, a little

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<v Speaker 2>north of thirty million a year on the free agent market. Yes, sir, Now,

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<v Speaker 2>look that's his choice. I think he's saying all the

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<v Speaker 2>right things, and you don't want to come because you

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<v Speaker 2>know Joe if he goes, Oh, he's selfish. Why he's

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<v Speaker 2>helfish Mike Brian made all that money, he ain't paid

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<v Speaker 2>but a handful of people since he owned the team.

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<v Speaker 2>You got, you got, you got.

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<v Speaker 5>You gotta talk to him. I can't say it no more.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean you, can you please tell the people in

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<v Speaker 5>the chat. I'm sure I'm listen. I know we have

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of Bangal fans in the chat, right, I

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<v Speaker 5>know we do. Can you please tell them the importance

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<v Speaker 5>of your first contract as a player, after you put

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<v Speaker 5>all the work in to get to this point. And

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<v Speaker 5>I know I know he means well, I know he doesn't.

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<v Speaker 5>I would love to see him stay. But you got

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<v Speaker 5>to say something because I done said that. I don't

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<v Speaker 5>think people listen to me because they've been.

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<v Speaker 1>Arguing me down. You know my fans, you know that

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<v Speaker 1>I love them. They've been arguing me down based on

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<v Speaker 1>what I said.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe if they hear from you on the first contract,

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<v Speaker 2>especially with t Higgins was a second round pick. If

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not mistaken, your first contract is what solidifies everything. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>that gives you if you want to down the road, oho,

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to take a little less money, or

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<v Speaker 2>you want to give them a little haircut. Now, look

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<v Speaker 2>when I say give your haircut. I ain't getting no

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<v Speaker 2>damn ball head now. I ain't getting no kojack. That's

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<v Speaker 2>what you call the ball here. When I was growing

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<v Speaker 2>up with Jack Hey, the old man going to Hey, Hey, Green,

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<v Speaker 2>give me that Kojak, that miant a ball head. Nah,

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<v Speaker 2>I ain't getting no. I ain't getting no ball Now.

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<v Speaker 2>If you say, okay, I'm gonna stay, I could go

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<v Speaker 2>get thirty thirty one million have a free agent. Now

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna give me twenty eight twenty nine. So when

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<v Speaker 2>I projected out, that's about okay, I'm gonna lose ten million.

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<v Speaker 2>I can you know what ojo With a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>you know, with a couple of incentives here or there,

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<v Speaker 2>I do a couple of appearances. I can make that up.

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<v Speaker 2>But when you tell me on the free agent market,

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<v Speaker 2>I can get five years, one hundred and sixty million

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<v Speaker 2>with eighty million guaranteed. And what y'all can only get

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<v Speaker 2>to is one hundred and twenty million. Oh hey on,

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<v Speaker 2>nah twenty when you strike. Once you get past twenty

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<v Speaker 2>thirty million, I can't even hear nothing y'all saying yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>y'all bull jeving. I can't give it because here's the thing, ojo. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>if the networks were to go to the NFL and say,

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<v Speaker 2>y'all cut us a deal, what you think they're gonna say? Ojo, No,

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<v Speaker 2>they not getting no deal from the NFL is not

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<v Speaker 2>given because I don't think y'all understand. Chat. Let stay

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<v Speaker 2>with me right here. Do y'all realize that even though

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<v Speaker 2>like ESPN has paid two point two billion, and Foxes

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<v Speaker 2>paid two billion and all these networks, do you realize,

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<v Speaker 2>even on playing the two billion, the one point eight

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<v Speaker 2>the other two point two billion, that in order for

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<v Speaker 2>ESPN to show video clips they gotta pay for that too.

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<v Speaker 2>Eleven minutes of video clips is about two million dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Let that sink it. Chet, Listen to me, eleven minutes

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<v Speaker 2>worth of video clips? How many video clips do you

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<v Speaker 2>think ESPN show in a day? How many of you

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<v Speaker 2>think they showed in a week?

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<v Speaker 3>Same for Fox, same for CBS, same for NBC, same

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<v Speaker 3>for Amazon.

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<v Speaker 2>Think about that? So I just play hold on. It's like, oh, Joe, yes, sir,

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<v Speaker 2>I go pay two hundred thousand dollars for a car.

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<v Speaker 2>You mean to jail me. I gotta play for the

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<v Speaker 2>umbrella to come in the car too. You can't give

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<v Speaker 2>me that of a god.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean, listen, listen, I just I don't understand,

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<v Speaker 5>and I think about the nature of the business when

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<v Speaker 5>it comes time to get paid for one the teams

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<v Speaker 5>aren't going to come to you with your best interest

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<v Speaker 5>in heart or in mind.

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<v Speaker 1>They gonna they gonnall. Of course, they gonna know about you.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I understand, I know the game that they're

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<v Speaker 5>going to play as much as I love the game

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<v Speaker 5>of football, but I understand the bidding war.

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<v Speaker 2>It's almost like, oh, just reminds you of like in

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<v Speaker 2>the uh in Pennsylvania, Montana Marino, name of Kelly, all

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<v Speaker 2>of them from that little pocket, so many you know, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>what's the boy names at Equippa. Tony Door said, all Equippa.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that that little, small, little Pennsylvania. A lot

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<v Speaker 2>of Hall of famers came out of there. But this

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<v Speaker 2>is I mean, within one hundred and twenty miles of

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<v Speaker 2>each other. It'll be interesting they probably you know, chasing

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<v Speaker 2>each other before.

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<v Speaker 5>Whatever whatever, whatever parts of Louisiana they were from. They

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<v Speaker 5>didn't just start getting good.

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<v Speaker 3>They've been good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they've been.

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<v Speaker 3>Good way back then.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>So obviously, you know, you know, players in different counties

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<v Speaker 5>and different cities that are playing well.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm sure they know each other.

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<v Speaker 5>Especially the seven or seven stuff when they were coming up,

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<v Speaker 5>and I'm sure they crossed paths, you know, in those

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<v Speaker 5>type of areas of environments.

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<v Speaker 2>Chase is gonna win. We're gonna win the triple crown.

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<v Speaker 2>Jetta is having an outstanding season. He's over a undred,

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred catches uh elite neighbors, He's on pace. Uh well,

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<v Speaker 2>the only thing, yeah, is that he's got Brian uh

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<v Speaker 2>brock Bowers nine catches, that said, the single season record

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<v Speaker 2>for tight ends. He has uh eight four more catches

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<v Speaker 2>than elite neighbors. He has one o eight neighbors.

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<v Speaker 5>That says a lot too, man, that's a lot like Listen,

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<v Speaker 5>I bron Bowers was the real deal at Georgia.

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<v Speaker 2>He was a real deal.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know what he would be in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>We've we've seen many players.

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<v Speaker 5>We've seen many players I dominate, you know, at the

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<v Speaker 5>college level, and it gets to fail and absolutely disappeared. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>brock Bowers is everything is advertised, boy, everything is advertised.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what I thought you? Yes, sir, you

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<v Speaker 2>know why I thought he would be good? O Joe

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<v Speaker 2>because he's not a nest tight end, right, He's an

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<v Speaker 2>old who put his hand in the dirt tight end.

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<v Speaker 2>That's tremendous run after the catch. He has great body control,

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<v Speaker 2>he got great hands, can catch the ball in traffic.

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<v Speaker 2>He's good run after the catch. Now, is he grownk

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<v Speaker 2>Is he Mark m'barro with some of these big George Kittle? No, no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>he's not that. Now. I'm not saying he's that, but

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<v Speaker 2>he's a decent. And what I tell guys all the time,

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<v Speaker 2>are you more of an asset in the passing game

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<v Speaker 2>than you are a liability in the run game? Because

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<v Speaker 2>if you are, you can play, you can be special

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<v Speaker 2>in this league. Because that's all I'm asking. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>what I told a boy. I said, Mikey, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be more of an asset than I am a liability. Now. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>if you want me to try to hold up against

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<v Speaker 2>Reggie and straight handed Bruce, aw, it ain't happening. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go ahead to tell you right now, go ahead,

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<v Speaker 2>put somebody else in there, and when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>pass it down, let me go on and get my

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<v Speaker 2>little passing and I'll come on out. But dang gonna

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<v Speaker 2>just wear me out all day long. I'm gonna get

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<v Speaker 2>me a couple of wins back. And so that's the

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<v Speaker 2>way you gotta approach it. But before leading receivers all

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<v Speaker 2>within one hundred and twenty miles of each other, Chase Justin, Jefferson,

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<v Speaker 2>Ceedee Lamb, Brian Thomas Jr. And elite neighbors for good measure.

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<v Speaker 2>There's been speculation that the Raiders co owner Tom Brady

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<v Speaker 2>really like Brian flores as a potential head coaching candidate.

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<v Speaker 2>Florenes has done damage on some amazing things with the bikes.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember he was the defensive coordinator when they won the

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<v Speaker 2>Super Bowl against the Rams right in Atlanta, and then

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<v Speaker 2>he got the head coaching job at Miami. Okay, he

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<v Speaker 2>was a linebackers coach. When did he become to DC?

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<v Speaker 2>He was he was never the DC Okay, So he's

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<v Speaker 2>the linebackers coach that got the job. Okay because Patricia

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<v Speaker 2>was the DC. Okay, you like that.

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<v Speaker 3>You like Brian Florence to.

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<v Speaker 5>The now, Listen, I think Brian Floyd is and what

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<v Speaker 5>he was able to do with the Vikings defense.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously the personnel and the talent and skill level.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe a little different, a little bit more upside when

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<v Speaker 5>it comes to the Vikings defense, But I think it

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<v Speaker 5>would be good.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he'd be a good fit.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't like the fact that they're firing or getting

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<v Speaker 5>rid of Ap when AP hasn't had a chance because

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<v Speaker 5>he's been going going through a god damn quarterback carousel

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<v Speaker 5>and got damn married around the quarterbacks, so it's hard

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<v Speaker 5>to be able to Again. I said all the time,

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<v Speaker 5>you can't compete unless you got a quarterback, Yes, you can't.

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<v Speaker 5>Zero opportunity.

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<v Speaker 2>And who did he have? Who do you have about you?

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<v Speaker 2>He had Jimmy g Yeah, Garnament, you a O'Connell, those

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<v Speaker 2>those anybody.

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<v Speaker 5>Remember it's no disrespected them, no disrespecting them. But you know,

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<v Speaker 5>we talk about tier two, tier three quarterback.

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<v Speaker 6>Bro.

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<v Speaker 2>What am I supposed to do with that? None?

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<v Speaker 1>You can't do. It's unfortunately, you give.

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<v Speaker 2>Me chicken poods and make me some chicken salad, and

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<v Speaker 2>I needed to be yummy. You're right, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>like Ryan Floyd's I think you. I think you've done

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<v Speaker 2>a great job of rehabilitating himself because all the things

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<v Speaker 2>that were coming out, we weren't favorable. You hear to

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<v Speaker 2>us say things. You hear Ryan Fitzpatrick say things. There's

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<v Speaker 2>some other people that have come out and say somethings,

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<v Speaker 2>but that look, at the end of the day, Brian,

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<v Speaker 2>if I would tell all I would say, is this

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<v Speaker 2>be you. You're not coach Belichick. And I think that

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<v Speaker 2>is the one mistake all the coaches under that tree

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<v Speaker 2>has made. They try to be coach.

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<v Speaker 1>That way of coaching wouldn't work in this area anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>If you look at look at the guys that come

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<v Speaker 2>out of Mike Shanahan, Me, Kyle Shanahan's tree, Sean McVay,

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<v Speaker 2>Sean McVay, Matt laflour Is, Matt lafleur, Kevin O'Collins, Kevin O'Connell,

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<v Speaker 2>Mike McDaniels, Mike McDaniel. Don't nobody try to be like him.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why when that's not your personality. When

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<v Speaker 2>they look up there and they hear you sound like

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<v Speaker 2>coach Belichick, but then like you, Brian Flores, you, Matt Patricia, you,

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<v Speaker 2>Josh McDaniel, you, Bill O'Brien, you, Charlie White, you Romeo.

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<v Speaker 2>For now, you're not him? Why try to be him?

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<v Speaker 2>So that would be my advice to him. I hope

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<v Speaker 2>he gets another opportunity. Normally the second time around.

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<v Speaker 1>Was very important.

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<v Speaker 5>But you have some pieces you get to work with

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<v Speaker 5>over there, Jack Jones, Max Crosley. Now you got some

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<v Speaker 5>other young books.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, you got Christian Wilkins. Yeah you got brock

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<v Speaker 2>b You gotta get a quarterback. You gotta get a quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>And they got a lot of nont how much cap

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<v Speaker 2>space did the Raiders. Now Rader's got a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>cap space. Now they're gonna have a little dead calf

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<v Speaker 2>space on there with Davante Adams dealing him.

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<v Speaker 3>They're gonna have a little dead cap space. But O joe,

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<v Speaker 3>that's it. They got money.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, listen, you don't want to spend anything you want.

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<v Speaker 2>Rady's got the second most money to space.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't just want to spend anything. You want to

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<v Speaker 1>spend on the right thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I just you know, I thought Jamal Adams should have

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<v Speaker 2>should have should have stayed at the Jets. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe it was a contract he wanted to get paid. Uh. Sometimes,

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<v Speaker 2>bro the grass ain't always greener, and and and and

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's really difficult.

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<v Speaker 3>It's rare.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really really rare, o Joe, that you can build

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<v Speaker 2>up something here and then go somewhere else and it

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<v Speaker 2>be the same. It's it's difficult. And I remember having

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<v Speaker 2>a conversation with a very, a very a great player,

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<v Speaker 2>and he called me. He said, Kevin, what you think

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<v Speaker 2>I should do? I said, I said, I'm gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>honest with you. I said, where you're thinking about going,

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<v Speaker 2>they're never looking to love you like you like they

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<v Speaker 2>do where you are. I said, never. I don't care

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<v Speaker 2>what you do. You're be loved where you are. You're

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<v Speaker 2>just gonna be another piece. He stayed. And and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think enough guys realize that. Yeah. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>get it free agency and they won't pay you. But

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<v Speaker 2>when you request things.

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<v Speaker 5>Based on where he was at his being in safety,

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<v Speaker 5>you got to hit it when the stove is hot.

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<v Speaker 5>And the stove was hot for him.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, And that's think about it, because think about had

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<v Speaker 2>he not did what he did and he had gotten hurt,

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<v Speaker 2>then he wouldn't have got that money. Jets are reportedly

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<v Speaker 2>said to interview Ron Rivera and Rex Ryan for the

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<v Speaker 2>head coach in vacancy at.

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<v Speaker 3>The Jets, o Jo, who would be the better fit.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm biased, so don't ask me.

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<v Speaker 1>Rex going back.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh No, but I'm saying I know Rex Saxy Rex

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<v Speaker 2>and he was on the staff in Baltimore. His dad

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<v Speaker 2>came and worked me out when I was at the Bronx,

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<v Speaker 2>not the Broncos. When I was in Savannah State O

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Buddy. His dad rested, so came and worked me out.

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<v Speaker 2>He say, Son, I've washed the tape. He says, we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna take a bunch of receivers. He said, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>put all the ass in the bag and the best

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<v Speaker 2>ones are gonna put that. That what he told me.

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<v Speaker 2>He drafted all those receivers, and I remembered him telling

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<v Speaker 2>me he's like that up. He said, we took a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of receivers, but none of them was you. They

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<v Speaker 2>took a Fred Barbinet, they took uh like Calvin Williams,

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Bellamy. They took like four receivers. And it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that is motivating in itself.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmmm. Who you like best? You like Ron Rabelo, you.

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<v Speaker 5>Like I don't think Ron has the right and personality

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<v Speaker 5>is not the right word to use. He just doesn't

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<v Speaker 5>fit the New York atmosphere, the New York meter, I

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<v Speaker 5>mean the New York m hm.

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<v Speaker 2>Rex have been there, done that. He knows, he knows, Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>he definitely knows. He definitely knows how to talk to

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<v Speaker 2>the media. He has the personality.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't fit. He just doesn't fit. I mean, good,

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<v Speaker 1>good coach. He just doesn't fit in that atmosphere.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think that's what they need, you like, especially

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<v Speaker 5>like Brexit, a defensive mind as well too.

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<v Speaker 2>Right If I'm thinking, yeah, yeah, we definitely have a

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<v Speaker 2>defense player, well but let me ask you this, what

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<v Speaker 2>are you doing with who? Who are you bringing in

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<v Speaker 2>an offensive coordinator? And what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>See that's the scary part. So it doesn't matter you

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<v Speaker 1>switch coaches if you don't have nobody to him that

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<v Speaker 1>can be able to get the ball and de liarter

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<v Speaker 1>that thing. It ain't no point, It ain't no point.

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<v Speaker 5>You're signing you're signing yourself up for suicide, basically, but

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<v Speaker 5>you're not gonna be able to compete when you don't

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<v Speaker 5>have a quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>About your checking this out. The Bills defeated the Jets

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<v Speaker 2>forty team. At one point, the score was forty to eight.

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<v Speaker 2>Aaron Rodgers had a one point two QBR today versus

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<v Speaker 2>the Bills. It was one of the worst twenty worst

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<v Speaker 2>games by quarterback in NFL history. It was the worst

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<v Speaker 2>game since Davis Mills in twenty twenty one. The Bills

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<v Speaker 2>forced three turnovers, notched the safety sacked Aaron Rodgers four times.

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<v Speaker 2>Rodgers had a forgettable game with season lows and passive

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<v Speaker 2>yards one hundred and twelve, quarterback rating forty four. Aaron

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<v Speaker 2>Rodgers benched himself in the fourth quarter, essentially saying you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, oh Jo, this is what he said. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it was thirty three to nothing. We're sitting there and

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<v Speaker 2>I said, at some point you'd probably go to tyrod

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<v Speaker 2>Huh yeah, probably should have went to Tyron about five

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<v Speaker 2>games ago. Huh.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, you know what, a Bills.

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<v Speaker 2>I need y'all to give me y'all vaccination status cause

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<v Speaker 2>that probably why y'all won.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, so I can ask you a question a check?

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<v Speaker 5>Can I ask you a question a chack? Listen, listen

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<v Speaker 5>to me, sure question. Then Anthony Richardson said he required

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<v Speaker 5>in coming out the game and was saying, you know what,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm going to mention myself. I guess what may be

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<v Speaker 5>based on my play, when there's nothing wrong with him,

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<v Speaker 5>there any difference.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just curious.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm here a chat. I'm curious in your thoughts.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to I don't get it.

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<v Speaker 5>I've never heard of a player actually mentioned himself unless

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<v Speaker 5>he's saying he's been himself and and and they unless

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<v Speaker 5>they actually did it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, that's not what he said.

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<v Speaker 2>He said he went to the code, basically went to

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<v Speaker 2>the coach and said, we're sitting there, and I said,

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<v Speaker 2>at some.

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<v Speaker 5>Point, you can't give up with your team in the

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<v Speaker 5>middle of the game, no matter how mad you're, Glenn,

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<v Speaker 5>you still got to keep fighting.

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<v Speaker 2>To the end. You have to. I'm so, I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>tried to figure out. I mean, but if they probably did, look,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he done begged enough for a job, or

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<v Speaker 2>if they draft the quarterback, I would mentor him. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not a conversation for me. I mean, he's begging

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<v Speaker 2>to stay there. You know, he's playing bad, and y'all

0:19:14.560 --> 0:19:17.639
<v Speaker 2>giving people giving him every excuse. And and when you

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<v Speaker 2>say that he's played bad, you're talking about his vaccination status.

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<v Speaker 2>That ain't got nothing to do with him playing bad.

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<v Speaker 2>That ain't got nothing to do and that was four

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<v Speaker 2>years ago. Ain't even nobody talking about COVID. He keeps

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<v Speaker 2>bringing that up to try to he's playing he's playing

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<v Speaker 2>the shell game with yojo. Mm hmm, let's talk about COVID.

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<v Speaker 2>So you Ryan hands what you're playing bad with. He

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<v Speaker 2>tried to distract. That's why he keeps bringing it up.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't nobody. Don't nobody bring up that he misled people.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, immunization, and he talk about, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if he vaccinated, he immunized. Nobody brings down we're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about your play in twenty twenty four has been abysmal. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>There's no there's no way around it. He's played bad.

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<v Speaker 2>He's still a four time league MVP. He's still a

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<v Speaker 2>Super Bowl champ, he still has thrown four hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>ninety nine touchdowns. He's done all of that. And I

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<v Speaker 2>say that, but he's played bad in twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no Whey around the chat. There's nowhere around the

0:20:30.160 --> 0:20:33.680
<v Speaker 2>Jet fans, even the most die hard Stauncher supporters of

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<v Speaker 2>Aaron Rodgers can honestly can with that minute.

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<v Speaker 5>The season was abusinal. It's been bad. It's been really bad.

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<v Speaker 5>Does he get an opportunity to redeem himself next year,

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<v Speaker 5>that's the question.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't believe he redeemed himself in New York. That's

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<v Speaker 2>just just me, uh right, I think I mean Wooded Johnson.

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<v Speaker 2>If the reports are to be believed that Wooded Johnson

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<v Speaker 2>try to bench him earlier in the season. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know why you would bench him and then have him back.

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<v Speaker 6>Now, that's just my thought. Owners have done things that

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<v Speaker 6>made me scratch my head before. But all I know

0:21:14.160 --> 0:21:17.960
<v Speaker 6>is this, they fired the coach coordinator.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, Like I said, you know, players get coaches fired.

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<v Speaker 2>No, but oh Jo. The thing is this what you

0:21:32.200 --> 0:21:37.840
<v Speaker 2>have to understand. Like that you basically turned you turn

0:21:37.920 --> 0:21:42.520
<v Speaker 2>the organization over to it. Tampa did that for Tampa,

0:21:42.920 --> 0:21:47.960
<v Speaker 2>did that for Brady. Broncos did that for Manning. The

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<v Speaker 2>problem that you have to be careful with is that

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<v Speaker 2>people sometimes to have power, they'll abuse that privilege. It'll

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<v Speaker 2>tell you a lot. Give a person if you want

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<v Speaker 2>to know what a person and people say, we'll give

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<v Speaker 2>h money, give a person power, mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 5>That'll tell you exactly what person is. That's telling y'all.

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<v Speaker 2>And Aaron Rodgers has four hundred and nine in a

0:22:14.040 --> 0:22:17.360
<v Speaker 2>career touchdowns suddenly five hundred and certain things is gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be interesting to see.

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<v Speaker 3>Does he play, does he start next week? Does he

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<v Speaker 3>play next week?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh. It's being reported that Garrett Wilson will reportedly request

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<v Speaker 2>the trade if Rogers comes back as quarterbacks. I remember

0:22:33.480 --> 0:22:36.399
<v Speaker 2>having a conversation with you this off season when they

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<v Speaker 2>were in training camp and he kept talking to Rogers.

0:22:39.040 --> 0:22:41.800
<v Speaker 3>I said, oh, Chose, that's not a good sign. You said, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>you just the preseason.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, I'm telling you, he keep talking, and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't blame it, y'all keep telling me.

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<v Speaker 5>All I know is that when I have he's not

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<v Speaker 5>been being utilized the right way. But I know what

0:22:59.560 --> 0:23:02.280
<v Speaker 5>he can do. I know they can do, and there's

0:23:02.359 --> 0:23:04.520
<v Speaker 5>nothing there's nothing wrong with him. There's nothing wrong with him.

0:23:04.560 --> 0:23:07.120
<v Speaker 5>But the quarterback player has been abysmal. And we've seen

0:23:07.160 --> 0:23:10.320
<v Speaker 5>Aaron Rodgers before be able to facilitate the ball and

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<v Speaker 5>be able to addition and deliver it to multiple players

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<v Speaker 5>at a time, because.

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<v Speaker 2>He did it for a very long time in Green Bay.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe he just not the same quarterback we're you used

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<v Speaker 5>to seeing. Because there's no reason Garrett Wilson to be upset.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no reason.

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<v Speaker 5>Garrett Wilson, with his talent, with his skill level and

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<v Speaker 5>what he can contribute to that offense, there's no reason

0:23:30.800 --> 0:23:31.000
<v Speaker 5>for this.

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<v Speaker 2>And his time.

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<v Speaker 5>He's young, he's not in his prime yet. It's being

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<v Speaker 5>wasted in New York.

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<v Speaker 2>It's crazy, it is and that's and that's the look guys, y'all,

0:23:45.640 --> 0:23:47.879
<v Speaker 2>O chose have a little a different way. I just

0:23:47.960 --> 0:23:50.200
<v Speaker 2>call it like I see it. I don't I don't

0:23:50.280 --> 0:23:53.760
<v Speaker 2>have anything personal against anybody. I don't think I'm better

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<v Speaker 2>than anybody. I don't care what somebody else is doing.

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<v Speaker 2>I just look at it and said, Okay, the guys

0:23:57.320 --> 0:23:59.359
<v Speaker 2>playing good. The guy's not playing good, and let me

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<v Speaker 2>try to tell you, plain to you why he's not

0:24:01.440 --> 0:24:04.040
<v Speaker 2>playing good or why he is playing good. And so

0:24:04.160 --> 0:24:06.960
<v Speaker 2>that's why they just don't look at touchdown interception sacke

0:24:06.960 --> 0:24:09.360
<v Speaker 2>blah blah blah. I'm trying to look at how it came.

0:24:09.560 --> 0:24:11.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to look at how it came to be.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why we were able to look at the player

0:24:13.800 --> 0:24:16.359
<v Speaker 2>and say, oh, that interception that y'all blaming on Russ.

0:24:16.760 --> 0:24:18.359
<v Speaker 3>No no, no, no, no, no, no, that wasn't Russ.

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<v Speaker 2>That was Pickings. He quit on the route. And so

0:24:20.880 --> 0:24:22.879
<v Speaker 2>once he quit on the route, the safety said, why

0:24:22.920 --> 0:24:24.399
<v Speaker 2>the hell am I gonna get wide? But there's not

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<v Speaker 2>a threat White, The danger is screaming up the same here.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me just cheat this here. Okay, thank you, thank you, Russ.

0:24:30.440 --> 0:24:32.880
<v Speaker 2>I appreciate that anybody like Russ, how could you throw

0:24:32.960 --> 0:24:35.680
<v Speaker 2>that had to say, had Pickins not quit on that

0:24:35.800 --> 0:24:39.000
<v Speaker 2>route and he stayed wide, that means Reed would have

0:24:39.119 --> 0:24:42.280
<v Speaker 2>had to stay wide, and that means fried Muth would

0:24:42.320 --> 0:24:44.240
<v Speaker 2>have got over the top of it because he picked it.

0:24:45.640 --> 0:24:48.720
<v Speaker 2>You have to understand everything ties together, O Joe. You

0:24:48.840 --> 0:24:51.480
<v Speaker 2>we're talking about from a standpoint of running routes. We

0:24:51.720 --> 0:24:56.040
<v Speaker 2>know how things tie together. Front side, we gotta maybe

0:24:56.119 --> 0:24:58.679
<v Speaker 2>the front side. We got a digger hoping that safety

0:24:58.720 --> 0:25:01.160
<v Speaker 2>get knows it that we got the post on the backside.

0:25:02.320 --> 0:25:05.879
<v Speaker 2>That's what the Broncos ran the Diino. The man Marvin

0:25:05.920 --> 0:25:08.919
<v Speaker 2>Mills Jr. Safety is already outside, so I'm gonna get

0:25:09.000 --> 0:25:10.960
<v Speaker 2>him a little further. Now I'm gonna head back to

0:25:11.040 --> 0:25:13.520
<v Speaker 2>the post. Safety ain't paying attention on the backside.

0:25:14.400 --> 0:25:15.240
<v Speaker 3>Now I'm not.

0:25:15.440 --> 0:25:19.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm past you. So in offense, things tie together. It's

0:25:19.560 --> 0:25:23.960
<v Speaker 2>it's almost like, you know, rice and gravy. You know,

0:25:25.080 --> 0:25:28.200
<v Speaker 2>you know corn bread and this of potatoes and that

0:25:28.640 --> 0:25:31.000
<v Speaker 2>they go together. And so you trying to say, okay,

0:25:31.119 --> 0:25:34.520
<v Speaker 2>this went together. But guys, at some point in time,

0:25:34.600 --> 0:25:39.280
<v Speaker 2>even even our favorite players, they're not what they once

0:25:39.359 --> 0:25:41.080
<v Speaker 2>were and they can't do it.

0:25:41.359 --> 0:25:43.359
<v Speaker 3>And that's the one thing that you learn is that

0:25:43.440 --> 0:25:44.840
<v Speaker 3>you can't do it consistently.

0:25:45.560 --> 0:25:50.040
<v Speaker 2>You could have a game or two, but Aaron Rodgers

0:25:50.119 --> 0:25:53.280
<v Speaker 2>to throw three hundred two fifty Aaron Rodgers turned hold

0:25:53.280 --> 0:25:55.960
<v Speaker 2>on how many interceptions the man got. He probably got

0:25:56.000 --> 0:25:58.320
<v Speaker 2>three seasons in twenty years in which he's had double

0:25:58.359 --> 0:26:02.520
<v Speaker 2>digit interceptions. Roger was throwing forty five touchdowns with six picks,

0:26:02.840 --> 0:26:07.680
<v Speaker 2>forty touchdowns with four picks routinely. Yeah, I'm not sure.

0:26:08.800 --> 0:26:09.520
<v Speaker 3>I told the other night.

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<v Speaker 5>I saw the graphic come up, and I'm looking. I thought,

0:26:13.359 --> 0:26:15.040
<v Speaker 5>I'm like, man, what in the hell.

0:26:21.240 --> 0:26:22.960
<v Speaker 2>If he does? He might not have, but one hundred

0:26:22.960 --> 0:26:26.399
<v Speaker 2>and two. He has the greatest touchdown to interception ratio

0:26:26.440 --> 0:26:32.440
<v Speaker 2>in NFL history. So we have four hundred and ninety

0:26:32.480 --> 0:26:35.680
<v Speaker 2>nine touchdowns one hundred and thirteen picks, which.

0:26:35.560 --> 0:26:41.359
<v Speaker 5>Is that's why he's afforded opportunities. Races the quarterback because

0:26:41.400 --> 0:26:43.200
<v Speaker 5>of that. But people understand it, and you know they're

0:26:43.200 --> 0:26:45.120
<v Speaker 5>gonna use that as a crutch over and over and over.

0:26:45.320 --> 0:26:47.560
<v Speaker 5>He's going to get another opportunity to play if I

0:26:47.600 --> 0:26:48.920
<v Speaker 5>don't know if it's going to be in New York.

0:26:49.480 --> 0:26:50.800
<v Speaker 5>I don't know if it's going to be in New York.

0:26:51.520 --> 0:26:55.440
<v Speaker 5>Knowing Aaron Rodgerson the way he is and the way

0:26:55.480 --> 0:27:02.040
<v Speaker 5>he operates, he gonna want to come back. You're gonna

0:27:02.040 --> 0:27:02.600
<v Speaker 5>want to come back.

0:27:04.440 --> 0:27:07.480
<v Speaker 2>But here's the thing. Oh, Joe, as you yeah, O Joe,

0:27:07.640 --> 0:27:11.400
<v Speaker 2>as you get older, you don't get to make the decisions. Yeah,

0:27:11.640 --> 0:27:14.400
<v Speaker 2>but think about it. Tom Brady didn't get to write

0:27:14.440 --> 0:27:17.320
<v Speaker 2>his inding, Peyton Manning didn't get to write his ending,

0:27:17.760 --> 0:27:21.280
<v Speaker 2>Montana didn't get to write his ending. Emmitt Smith didn't

0:27:21.359 --> 0:27:24.080
<v Speaker 2>get to write his ending. There are not very many

0:27:24.200 --> 0:27:27.399
<v Speaker 2>guys because once you get old, you don't get.

0:27:27.320 --> 0:27:31.760
<v Speaker 5>The right A very small problem. Aaron Rodgers might not

0:27:31.880 --> 0:27:34.639
<v Speaker 5>be able to write the ending, right was that? But

0:27:35.520 --> 0:27:38.800
<v Speaker 5>they can't close the page on that chapter because they

0:27:38.800 --> 0:27:40.240
<v Speaker 5>don't have nobody to open the new book.

0:27:42.240 --> 0:27:48.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh yetty Due, And why wouldn't you go make it?

0:27:49.000 --> 0:27:53.920
<v Speaker 3>Sam Donald? I like you know? I like did I

0:27:54.080 --> 0:27:58.440
<v Speaker 3>like you see oh oh, Joe. It's a lot.

0:27:58.560 --> 0:28:03.880
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes sometime even in the relationship, the individual, the female

0:28:04.040 --> 0:28:06.680
<v Speaker 2>or the male can be paralyzed because they're so afraid

0:28:07.000 --> 0:28:10.320
<v Speaker 2>that somebody might not out there. What am I gonna do? Yeah?

0:28:10.359 --> 0:28:12.160
<v Speaker 3>I know he don't pay for I know he beat

0:28:12.240 --> 0:28:13.840
<v Speaker 3>on me. I know she cheat on me.

0:28:14.160 --> 0:28:14.600
<v Speaker 5>I know this.

0:28:15.000 --> 0:28:19.320
<v Speaker 2>But am I gonna be able to find somebody else? Yes, sir,

0:28:19.480 --> 0:28:22.760
<v Speaker 2>you get paralyzed by that because you overthink said situation.

0:28:24.240 --> 0:28:29.760
<v Speaker 2>I refuse to be at a situation like that. I

0:28:29.880 --> 0:28:32.160
<v Speaker 2>refuse to I am not going to let you hold

0:28:32.200 --> 0:28:34.960
<v Speaker 2>me hostage. Come on, I don't see it right now.

0:28:35.400 --> 0:28:41.240
<v Speaker 2>Something on the other side because the jets cannot see, well,

0:28:41.480 --> 0:28:44.360
<v Speaker 2>who is the quarterback right now that we can definitively say?

0:28:45.280 --> 0:28:47.080
<v Speaker 3>Are you saying that there's somebody out there that gonna

0:28:47.080 --> 0:28:47.440
<v Speaker 3>be worse?

0:28:47.600 --> 0:28:49.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, are you telling me? You mean to tell

0:28:49.520 --> 0:28:51.520
<v Speaker 2>me you can't find somebody out there that can go

0:28:51.720 --> 0:28:54.080
<v Speaker 2>five and eleven? I mean five and twelve, that can

0:28:54.160 --> 0:28:58.400
<v Speaker 2>go six and ten, that can go seveny what nine

0:28:58.480 --> 0:29:04.400
<v Speaker 2>and eight? You got to be kidding me. They're now

0:29:04.640 --> 0:29:06.480
<v Speaker 2>no quarter of a chat. Tell me from wrong? Do

0:29:06.600 --> 0:29:09.160
<v Speaker 2>y'all believe that there's another There's not another quarterback out

0:29:09.200 --> 0:29:14.680
<v Speaker 2>there that can do what Rogers did this year. You

0:29:15.120 --> 0:29:24.280
<v Speaker 2>will give me without him, but that guy, Oh Joe,

0:29:24.560 --> 0:29:27.720
<v Speaker 2>that guy, you would be in the playoffs. But he's

0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:31.160
<v Speaker 2>not that guy anymore. Carolina had Sam Donald and they

0:29:31.200 --> 0:29:33.400
<v Speaker 2>have Baker Mayfield. I don't know if y'all know, but

0:29:33.520 --> 0:29:35.560
<v Speaker 2>Baker Mayfield got like four or five games where he

0:29:35.640 --> 0:29:37.800
<v Speaker 2>throwing four touchdowns this year that he threw five today

0:29:38.200 --> 0:29:42.080
<v Speaker 2>with over three hundred yards. Sam Donald through three today

0:29:42.280 --> 0:29:46.280
<v Speaker 2>he's throwing thirty five touchdowns, which is the third most

0:29:47.240 --> 0:29:52.240
<v Speaker 2>for for for a Viking. So I don't know. So

0:29:52.920 --> 0:29:57.280
<v Speaker 2>clearly these guys can play given the right sort of circumstances.

0:29:57.520 --> 0:29:59.960
<v Speaker 3>Now, look, they would devoid a talent.

0:30:00.320 --> 0:30:02.880
<v Speaker 2>They didn't have this level of talent in Carolina, so

0:30:03.000 --> 0:30:05.080
<v Speaker 2>you have to take Look, I'm not saying that it's

0:30:05.200 --> 0:30:08.120
<v Speaker 2>all Carolina fault, but Mike Evan and Chris Godwin. You

0:30:08.160 --> 0:30:09.680
<v Speaker 2>look at what they got in town for not even

0:30:09.720 --> 0:30:12.760
<v Speaker 2>though Chris Godwin is gone down, they still have quality

0:30:12.840 --> 0:30:15.720
<v Speaker 2>receivers and they have a nice running game. You look

0:30:15.800 --> 0:30:19.080
<v Speaker 2>at what they obviously, look at what Sam Darnod's throwing to.

0:30:20.400 --> 0:30:22.920
<v Speaker 2>He got Aaron Jones in his backfield. He got Howkinson,

0:30:23.480 --> 0:30:26.200
<v Speaker 2>who's been a Pro Bowl player. He's got Jetta, he's

0:30:26.240 --> 0:30:29.280
<v Speaker 2>got Addison, he's got Naylor. I mean, look, he's got

0:30:29.400 --> 0:30:31.880
<v Speaker 2>guys that he can throw the ball to. But it

0:30:32.040 --> 0:30:35.120
<v Speaker 2>just goes to show you, I don't care without talent

0:30:35.200 --> 0:30:38.880
<v Speaker 2>around you. Now you got some guys. Now, guys like

0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:42.760
<v Speaker 2>a Mahomes, the guys like some guys can like Brady,

0:30:43.160 --> 0:30:47.000
<v Speaker 2>they used to elevate, could elevate. You know. Not if

0:30:47.040 --> 0:30:49.400
<v Speaker 2>you're in the league, you're good. But everybody is not

0:30:49.480 --> 0:30:51.960
<v Speaker 2>gonna be a Jedda. Everybody's not gonna be Randy Mossos

0:30:52.080 --> 0:30:55.680
<v Speaker 2>for the song. But what a great quarterback like a Mahomes,

0:30:55.920 --> 0:30:59.200
<v Speaker 2>he can elevate Those guys play. When you're not that

0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:02.000
<v Speaker 2>level of player, you need guys to elevate your plate.

0:31:02.680 --> 0:31:05.520
<v Speaker 2>And that's what the great skilled position players around you

0:31:05.880 --> 0:31:06.560
<v Speaker 2>are able to do.

0:31:07.040 --> 0:31:09.800
<v Speaker 3>Baker Mayfield has been better.

0:31:11.520 --> 0:31:13.600
<v Speaker 2>Since he got the Tampa that even when he was

0:31:13.680 --> 0:31:16.440
<v Speaker 2>in Cleveland, because he got more talent around him. Sam

0:31:16.560 --> 0:31:18.600
<v Speaker 2>Donald was never going to be this good and the

0:31:18.720 --> 0:31:21.120
<v Speaker 2>Jets and at Carolina because he didn't have this level

0:31:21.160 --> 0:31:22.120
<v Speaker 2>of talent around it.

0:31:22.840 --> 0:31:27.520
<v Speaker 3>And so if you go out and sign a Sam Donald.

0:31:28.000 --> 0:31:28.880
<v Speaker 3>Look at what you have.

0:31:29.320 --> 0:31:34.120
<v Speaker 2>Do you have the roster that's equipped to help continue

0:31:34.160 --> 0:31:37.000
<v Speaker 2>to elevate him, because if you don't, he's not Mahomes,

0:31:37.040 --> 0:31:40.040
<v Speaker 2>he's not Burrough, he's not Lamar, he's not Josh Allen.

0:31:40.120 --> 0:31:41.200
<v Speaker 2>That's not what he is.

0:31:41.800 --> 0:31:43.080
<v Speaker 3>And I'm not finnh sit here and tell you.

0:31:43.160 --> 0:31:47.400
<v Speaker 2>Because he's having and he's having an outstanding year, I'll

0:31:47.400 --> 0:31:49.880
<v Speaker 2>give credit what credits do, but I don't look at

0:31:49.960 --> 0:31:54.479
<v Speaker 2>him as a guy that's a multiplier no matter who

0:31:54.520 --> 0:31:55.080
<v Speaker 2>you put out there.

0:31:55.080 --> 0:31:58.040
<v Speaker 3>Oh Joe, he's gonna make them times too. That's not

0:31:58.160 --> 0:31:58.560
<v Speaker 3>what that's.

0:31:58.720 --> 0:32:02.720
<v Speaker 2>Lamar's reserved for the top four or five quarterbacks in

0:32:02.760 --> 0:32:04.800
<v Speaker 2>the league. That's not your one quarterbacks.

0:32:04.880 --> 0:32:05.120
<v Speaker 3>Are you?

0:32:05.320 --> 0:32:07.480
<v Speaker 5>Are you elites that regards to what you put around

0:32:07.760 --> 0:32:10.360
<v Speaker 5>They're gonna get the job done. Oh we get the

0:32:10.480 --> 0:32:10.880
<v Speaker 5>job done.

0:32:11.280 --> 0:32:13.000
<v Speaker 2>Then if you have then you have.

0:32:13.040 --> 0:32:16.640
<v Speaker 5>Your tier two quarterbacks. Your tier two quarterbacks sometimes they

0:32:16.720 --> 0:32:19.800
<v Speaker 5>need a little help. Now they're good, but they're not great.

0:32:20.280 --> 0:32:22.440
<v Speaker 5>Now you put some good receivers around them.

0:32:22.800 --> 0:32:25.239
<v Speaker 2>Yes, but they can have a game where they can

0:32:25.320 --> 0:32:28.000
<v Speaker 2>have a game or two whether they are great, but

0:32:28.160 --> 0:32:31.600
<v Speaker 2>more time, you need to have that hedge around them.

0:32:31.480 --> 0:32:32.200
<v Speaker 3>To support them.

0:32:32.600 --> 0:32:35.280
<v Speaker 2>Rock Borers record sitting they pushing the Raiders to a

0:32:35.360 --> 0:32:38.080
<v Speaker 2>win versus the Saints. The Raiders posted back to back

0:32:38.160 --> 0:32:40.120
<v Speaker 2>wins for the first time this season with a twenty

0:32:40.200 --> 0:32:42.680
<v Speaker 2>five to ten victory over the New Orleans Saints. Rookie

0:32:42.720 --> 0:32:45.080
<v Speaker 2>tight end Rock Buyers led the Raiders in receiving with

0:32:45.160 --> 0:32:49.080
<v Speaker 2>seven catches seventy seven yards and set several records. Buyers

0:32:49.120 --> 0:32:51.400
<v Speaker 2>set an NFL record for the most receiving yards by

0:32:51.400 --> 0:32:53.880
<v Speaker 2>a rookie tight end and a single season, and the

0:32:53.960 --> 0:33:00.320
<v Speaker 2>most reception by rookie in a single season. Uh, the

0:33:00.360 --> 0:33:03.080
<v Speaker 2>most reception by rookie in a single season. And oh

0:33:03.160 --> 0:33:05.680
<v Speaker 2>in the second quarter? Right, is that what you're saying?

0:33:07.720 --> 0:33:08.880
<v Speaker 2>Okay in the second quarter?

0:33:09.000 --> 0:33:09.240
<v Speaker 3>Okay.

0:33:09.640 --> 0:33:12.680
<v Speaker 2>Bowers also set a radied single season record for the

0:33:12.720 --> 0:33:16.440
<v Speaker 2>most receiving yards by rookie and the most receptions. I mean,

0:33:16.840 --> 0:33:19.560
<v Speaker 2>what's the record the most reception by Titus Jason Witton

0:33:19.600 --> 0:33:22.040
<v Speaker 2>one hundred and sixteen sixteen.

0:33:23.480 --> 0:33:25.320
<v Speaker 5>They were did any boy.

0:33:29.720 --> 0:33:31.120
<v Speaker 3>Because he has what what does he happen?

0:33:31.120 --> 0:33:34.040
<v Speaker 2>No? One hundred and eight because I think Malik Neighbors

0:33:34.120 --> 0:33:36.120
<v Speaker 2>has like one hundred and six. He's right there on it.

0:33:39.680 --> 0:33:40.360
<v Speaker 3>By zach Ertz.

0:33:40.400 --> 0:33:43.400
<v Speaker 2>Okay, zach Ertz has one sixteen rock Bowers has how many?

0:33:43.520 --> 0:33:46.680
<v Speaker 2>One o eight? Now, so he's nine catches away from

0:33:46.680 --> 0:33:49.440
<v Speaker 2>breaking the record. Hey, all I know is I'm throwing

0:33:49.480 --> 0:33:52.400
<v Speaker 2>in the ball. I'm throwing the ball every day, every day. Oh,

0:33:52.680 --> 0:33:57.520
<v Speaker 2>I forgot passer. Tain gonna get some votes too, because

0:33:57.640 --> 0:34:00.200
<v Speaker 2>when he covered Jamar Chase had throw on what six

0:34:00.280 --> 0:34:02.840
<v Speaker 2>seven targets? He had three catches for twenty seven yards

0:34:02.840 --> 0:34:05.800
<v Speaker 2>A getst certain and when when Certain wasn't on him,

0:34:07.320 --> 0:34:10.320
<v Speaker 2>what's you called, Joey?

0:34:10.960 --> 0:34:15.120
<v Speaker 3>Joe Burrow hunted, Well, hey, oh you guard somebody else?

0:34:16.400 --> 0:34:21.560
<v Speaker 3>Get ready? Yeah, so's gonna get some He's gonna get

0:34:21.560 --> 0:34:21.919
<v Speaker 3>some baths.

0:34:21.960 --> 0:34:29.319
<v Speaker 5>He good man, he good that size to be that big. Yeah,

0:34:29.360 --> 0:34:34.960
<v Speaker 5>they talked, Hey listen to be that flu great hips,

0:34:35.360 --> 0:34:37.560
<v Speaker 5>great technique. He can play off, he can play man.

0:34:38.400 --> 0:34:41.319
<v Speaker 5>He's really good and always in position to make a play,

0:34:42.280 --> 0:34:43.960
<v Speaker 5>always in position to make a play.

0:34:44.880 --> 0:34:45.400
<v Speaker 2>I like him.

0:34:45.400 --> 0:34:48.160
<v Speaker 1>I like him to lie the volume