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Speaker 2: I just read an article today that t Higgins market
Speaker 2: is going to be somewhere a little bit, a little
Speaker 2: north of thirty million a year on the free agent market. Yes, sir, Now,
Speaker 2: look that's his choice. I think he's saying all the
Speaker 2: right things, and you don't want to come because you
Speaker 2: know Joe if he goes, Oh, he's selfish. Why he's
Speaker 2: helfish Mike Brian made all that money, he ain't paid
Speaker 2: but a handful of people since he owned the team.
Speaker 2: You got, you got, you got.
Speaker 5: You gotta talk to him. I can't say it no more.
Speaker 5: I mean you, can you please tell the people in
Speaker 5: the chat. I'm sure I'm listen. I know we have
Speaker 5: a lot of Bangal fans in the chat, right, I
Speaker 5: know we do. Can you please tell them the importance
Speaker 5: of your first contract as a player, after you put
Speaker 5: all the work in to get to this point. And
Speaker 5: I know I know he means well, I know he doesn't.
Speaker 5: I would love to see him stay. But you got
Speaker 5: to say something because I done said that. I don't
Speaker 5: think people listen to me because they've been.
Speaker 1: Arguing me down. You know my fans, you know that
Speaker 1: I love them. They've been arguing me down based on
Speaker 1: what I said.
Speaker 2: Maybe if they hear from you on the first contract,
Speaker 2: especially with t Higgins was a second round pick. If
Speaker 2: I'm not mistaken, your first contract is what solidifies everything. Now,
Speaker 2: that gives you if you want to down the road, oho,
Speaker 2: if you want to take a little less money, or
Speaker 2: you want to give them a little haircut. Now, look
Speaker 2: when I say give your haircut. I ain't getting no
Speaker 2: damn ball head now. I ain't getting no kojack. That's
Speaker 2: what you call the ball here. When I was growing
Speaker 2: up with Jack Hey, the old man going to Hey, Hey, Green,
Speaker 2: give me that Kojak, that miant a ball head. Nah,
Speaker 2: I ain't getting no. I ain't getting no ball Now.
Speaker 2: If you say, okay, I'm gonna stay, I could go
Speaker 2: get thirty thirty one million have a free agent. Now
Speaker 2: you're gonna give me twenty eight twenty nine. So when
Speaker 2: I projected out, that's about okay, I'm gonna lose ten million.
Speaker 2: I can you know what ojo With a couple of
Speaker 2: you know, with a couple of incentives here or there,
Speaker 2: I do a couple of appearances. I can make that up.
Speaker 2: But when you tell me on the free agent market,
Speaker 2: I can get five years, one hundred and sixty million
Speaker 2: with eighty million guaranteed. And what y'all can only get
Speaker 2: to is one hundred and twenty million. Oh hey on,
Speaker 2: nah twenty when you strike. Once you get past twenty
Speaker 2: thirty million, I can't even hear nothing y'all saying yeah,
Speaker 2: y'all bull jeving. I can't give it because here's the thing, ojo. Yeah,
Speaker 2: if the networks were to go to the NFL and say,
Speaker 2: y'all cut us a deal, what you think they're gonna say? Ojo, No,
Speaker 2: they not getting no deal from the NFL is not
Speaker 2: given because I don't think y'all understand. Chat. Let stay
Speaker 2: with me right here. Do y'all realize that even though
Speaker 2: like ESPN has paid two point two billion, and Foxes
Speaker 2: paid two billion and all these networks, do you realize,
Speaker 2: even on playing the two billion, the one point eight
Speaker 2: the other two point two billion, that in order for
Speaker 2: ESPN to show video clips they gotta pay for that too.
Speaker 2: Eleven minutes of video clips is about two million dollars.
Speaker 2: Let that sink it. Chet, Listen to me, eleven minutes
Speaker 2: worth of video clips? How many video clips do you
Speaker 2: think ESPN show in a day? How many of you
Speaker 2: think they showed in a week?
Speaker 3: Same for Fox, same for CBS, same for NBC, same
Speaker 3: for Amazon.
Speaker 2: Think about that? So I just play hold on. It's like, oh, Joe, yes, sir,
Speaker 2: I go pay two hundred thousand dollars for a car.
Speaker 2: You mean to jail me. I gotta play for the
Speaker 2: umbrella to come in the car too. You can't give
Speaker 2: me that of a god.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, listen, listen, I just I don't understand,
Speaker 5: and I think about the nature of the business when
Speaker 5: it comes time to get paid for one the teams
Speaker 5: aren't going to come to you with your best interest
Speaker 5: in heart or in mind.
Speaker 1: They gonna they gonnall. Of course, they gonna know about you.
Speaker 5: You know, I understand, I know the game that they're
Speaker 5: going to play as much as I love the game
Speaker 5: of football, but I understand the bidding war.
Speaker 2: It's almost like, oh, just reminds you of like in
Speaker 2: the uh in Pennsylvania, Montana Marino, name of Kelly, all
Speaker 2: of them from that little pocket, so many you know, uh,
Speaker 2: what's the boy names at Equippa. Tony Door said, all Equippa.
Speaker 2: I mean that that little, small, little Pennsylvania. A lot
Speaker 2: of Hall of famers came out of there. But this
Speaker 2: is I mean, within one hundred and twenty miles of
Speaker 2: each other. It'll be interesting they probably you know, chasing
Speaker 2: each other before.
Speaker 5: Whatever whatever, whatever parts of Louisiana they were from. They
Speaker 5: didn't just start getting good.
Speaker 3: They've been good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they've been.
Speaker 3: Good way back then.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So obviously, you know, you know, players in different counties
Speaker 5: and different cities that are playing well.
Speaker 1: So I'm sure they know each other.
Speaker 5: Especially the seven or seven stuff when they were coming up,
Speaker 5: and I'm sure they crossed paths, you know, in those
Speaker 5: type of areas of environments.
Speaker 2: Chase is gonna win. We're gonna win the triple crown.
Speaker 2: Jetta is having an outstanding season. He's over a undred,
Speaker 2: one hundred catches uh elite neighbors, He's on pace. Uh well,
Speaker 2: the only thing, yeah, is that he's got Brian uh
Speaker 2: brock Bowers nine catches, that said, the single season record
Speaker 2: for tight ends. He has uh eight four more catches
Speaker 2: than elite neighbors. He has one o eight neighbors.
Speaker 5: That says a lot too, man, that's a lot like Listen,
Speaker 5: I bron Bowers was the real deal at Georgia.
Speaker 2: He was a real deal.
Speaker 1: I didn't know what he would be in the NFL.
Speaker 1: We've we've seen many players.
Speaker 5: We've seen many players I dominate, you know, at the
Speaker 5: college level, and it gets to fail and absolutely disappeared. Yeah,
Speaker 5: brock Bowers is everything is advertised, boy, everything is advertised.
Speaker 2: Do you know what I thought you? Yes, sir, you
Speaker 2: know why I thought he would be good? O Joe
Speaker 2: because he's not a nest tight end, right, He's an
Speaker 2: old who put his hand in the dirt tight end.
Speaker 2: That's tremendous run after the catch. He has great body control,
Speaker 2: he got great hands, can catch the ball in traffic.
Speaker 2: He's good run after the catch. Now, is he grownk
Speaker 2: Is he Mark m'barro with some of these big George Kittle? No, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: he's not that. Now. I'm not saying he's that, but
Speaker 2: he's a decent. And what I tell guys all the time,
Speaker 2: are you more of an asset in the passing game
Speaker 2: than you are a liability in the run game? Because
Speaker 2: if you are, you can play, you can be special
Speaker 2: in this league. Because that's all I'm asking. And that's
Speaker 2: what I told a boy. I said, Mikey, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: be more of an asset than I am a liability. Now. Now,
Speaker 2: if you want me to try to hold up against
Speaker 2: Reggie and straight handed Bruce, aw, it ain't happening. So
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go ahead to tell you right now, go ahead,
Speaker 2: put somebody else in there, and when it comes to
Speaker 2: pass it down, let me go on and get my
Speaker 2: little passing and I'll come on out. But dang gonna
Speaker 2: just wear me out all day long. I'm gonna get
Speaker 2: me a couple of wins back. And so that's the
Speaker 2: way you gotta approach it. But before leading receivers all
Speaker 2: within one hundred and twenty miles of each other, Chase Justin, Jefferson,
Speaker 2: Ceedee Lamb, Brian Thomas Jr. And elite neighbors for good measure.
Speaker 2: There's been speculation that the Raiders co owner Tom Brady
Speaker 2: really like Brian flores as a potential head coaching candidate.
Speaker 2: Florenes has done damage on some amazing things with the bikes.
Speaker 2: Remember he was the defensive coordinator when they won the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl against the Rams right in Atlanta, and then
Speaker 2: he got the head coaching job at Miami. Okay, he
Speaker 2: was a linebackers coach. When did he become to DC?
Speaker 2: He was he was never the DC Okay, So he's
Speaker 2: the linebackers coach that got the job. Okay because Patricia
Speaker 2: was the DC. Okay, you like that.
Speaker 3: You like Brian Florence to.
Speaker 5: The now, Listen, I think Brian Floyd is and what
Speaker 5: he was able to do with the Vikings defense.
Speaker 1: Obviously the personnel and the talent and skill level.
Speaker 5: Maybe a little different, a little bit more upside when
Speaker 5: it comes to the Vikings defense, But I think it
Speaker 5: would be good.
Speaker 1: I think he'd be a good fit.
Speaker 5: I don't like the fact that they're firing or getting
Speaker 5: rid of Ap when AP hasn't had a chance because
Speaker 5: he's been going going through a god damn quarterback carousel
Speaker 5: and got damn married around the quarterbacks, so it's hard
Speaker 5: to be able to Again. I said all the time,
Speaker 5: you can't compete unless you got a quarterback, Yes, you can't.
Speaker 5: Zero opportunity.
Speaker 2: And who did he have? Who do you have about you?
Speaker 2: He had Jimmy g Yeah, Garnament, you a O'Connell, those
Speaker 2: those anybody.
Speaker 5: Remember it's no disrespected them, no disrespecting them. But you know,
Speaker 5: we talk about tier two, tier three quarterback.
Speaker 6: Bro.
Speaker 2: What am I supposed to do with that? None?
Speaker 1: You can't do. It's unfortunately, you give.
Speaker 2: Me chicken poods and make me some chicken salad, and
Speaker 2: I needed to be yummy. You're right, I mean, I
Speaker 2: like Ryan Floyd's I think you. I think you've done
Speaker 2: a great job of rehabilitating himself because all the things
Speaker 2: that were coming out, we weren't favorable. You hear to
Speaker 2: us say things. You hear Ryan Fitzpatrick say things. There's
Speaker 2: some other people that have come out and say somethings,
Speaker 2: but that look, at the end of the day, Brian,
Speaker 2: if I would tell all I would say, is this
Speaker 2: be you. You're not coach Belichick. And I think that
Speaker 2: is the one mistake all the coaches under that tree
Speaker 2: has made. They try to be coach.
Speaker 1: That way of coaching wouldn't work in this area anyway.
Speaker 2: If you look at look at the guys that come
Speaker 2: out of Mike Shanahan, Me, Kyle Shanahan's tree, Sean McVay,
Speaker 2: Sean McVay, Matt laflour Is, Matt lafleur, Kevin O'Collins, Kevin O'Connell,
Speaker 2: Mike McDaniels, Mike McDaniel. Don't nobody try to be like him.
Speaker 2: I don't know why when that's not your personality. When
Speaker 2: they look up there and they hear you sound like
Speaker 2: coach Belichick, but then like you, Brian Flores, you, Matt Patricia, you,
Speaker 2: Josh McDaniel, you, Bill O'Brien, you, Charlie White, you Romeo.
Speaker 2: For now, you're not him? Why try to be him?
Speaker 2: So that would be my advice to him. I hope
Speaker 2: he gets another opportunity. Normally the second time around.
Speaker 1: Was very important.
Speaker 5: But you have some pieces you get to work with
Speaker 5: over there, Jack Jones, Max Crosley. Now you got some
Speaker 5: other young books.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you got Christian Wilkins. Yeah you got brock
Speaker 2: b You gotta get a quarterback. You gotta get a quarterback.
Speaker 2: And they got a lot of nont how much cap
Speaker 2: space did the Raiders. Now Rader's got a lot of
Speaker 2: cap space. Now they're gonna have a little dead calf
Speaker 2: space on there with Davante Adams dealing him.
Speaker 3: They're gonna have a little dead cap space. But O joe,
Speaker 3: that's it. They got money.
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, you don't want to spend anything you want.
Speaker 2: Rady's got the second most money to space.
Speaker 1: I don't just want to spend anything. You want to
Speaker 1: spend on the right thing.
Speaker 2: I just you know, I thought Jamal Adams should have
Speaker 2: should have should have stayed at the Jets. I don't know,
Speaker 2: maybe it was a contract he wanted to get paid. Uh. Sometimes,
Speaker 2: bro the grass ain't always greener, and and and and
Speaker 2: it's it's really difficult.
Speaker 3: It's rare.
Speaker 2: It's really really rare, o Joe, that you can build
Speaker 2: up something here and then go somewhere else and it
Speaker 2: be the same. It's it's difficult. And I remember having
Speaker 2: a conversation with a very, a very a great player,
Speaker 2: and he called me. He said, Kevin, what you think
Speaker 2: I should do? I said, I said, I'm gonna be
Speaker 2: honest with you. I said, where you're thinking about going,
Speaker 2: they're never looking to love you like you like they
Speaker 2: do where you are. I said, never. I don't care
Speaker 2: what you do. You're be loved where you are. You're
Speaker 2: just gonna be another piece. He stayed. And and I
Speaker 2: don't think enough guys realize that. Yeah. I mean, I
Speaker 2: get it free agency and they won't pay you. But
Speaker 2: when you request things.
Speaker 5: Based on where he was at his being in safety,
Speaker 5: you got to hit it when the stove is hot.
Speaker 5: And the stove was hot for him.
Speaker 2: Right, And that's think about it, because think about had
Speaker 2: he not did what he did and he had gotten hurt,
Speaker 2: then he wouldn't have got that money. Jets are reportedly
Speaker 2: said to interview Ron Rivera and Rex Ryan for the
Speaker 2: head coach in vacancy at.
Speaker 3: The Jets, o Jo, who would be the better fit.
Speaker 3: I'm biased, so don't ask me.
Speaker 1: Rex going back.
Speaker 2: Uh No, but I'm saying I know Rex Saxy Rex
Speaker 2: and he was on the staff in Baltimore. His dad
Speaker 2: came and worked me out when I was at the Bronx,
Speaker 2: not the Broncos. When I was in Savannah State O
Speaker 2: Joe Buddy. His dad rested, so came and worked me out.
Speaker 2: He say, Son, I've washed the tape. He says, we're
Speaker 2: gonna take a bunch of receivers. He said, we're gonna
Speaker 2: put all the ass in the bag and the best
Speaker 2: ones are gonna put that. That what he told me.
Speaker 2: He drafted all those receivers, and I remembered him telling
Speaker 2: me he's like that up. He said, we took a
Speaker 2: bunch of receivers, but none of them was you. They
Speaker 2: took a Fred Barbinet, they took uh like Calvin Williams,
Speaker 2: Mike Bellamy. They took like four receivers. And it's.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that is motivating in itself.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. Who you like best? You like Ron Rabelo, you.
Speaker 5: Like I don't think Ron has the right and personality
Speaker 5: is not the right word to use. He just doesn't
Speaker 5: fit the New York atmosphere, the New York meter, I
Speaker 5: mean the New York m hm.
Speaker 2: Rex have been there, done that. He knows, he knows, Uh,
Speaker 2: he definitely knows. He definitely knows how to talk to
Speaker 2: the media. He has the personality.
Speaker 1: It doesn't fit. He just doesn't fit. I mean, good,
Speaker 1: good coach. He just doesn't fit in that atmosphere.
Speaker 5: I don't think that's what they need, you like, especially
Speaker 5: like Brexit, a defensive mind as well too.
Speaker 2: Right If I'm thinking, yeah, yeah, we definitely have a
Speaker 2: defense player, well but let me ask you this, what
Speaker 2: are you doing with who? Who are you bringing in
Speaker 2: an offensive coordinator? And what are you doing?
Speaker 1: See that's the scary part. So it doesn't matter you
Speaker 1: switch coaches if you don't have nobody to him that
Speaker 1: can be able to get the ball and de liarter
Speaker 1: that thing. It ain't no point, It ain't no point.
Speaker 5: You're signing you're signing yourself up for suicide, basically, but
Speaker 5: you're not gonna be able to compete when you don't
Speaker 5: have a quarterback.
Speaker 2: About your checking this out. The Bills defeated the Jets
Speaker 2: forty team. At one point, the score was forty to eight.
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers had a one point two QBR today versus
Speaker 2: the Bills. It was one of the worst twenty worst
Speaker 2: games by quarterback in NFL history. It was the worst
Speaker 2: game since Davis Mills in twenty twenty one. The Bills
Speaker 2: forced three turnovers, notched the safety sacked Aaron Rodgers four times.
Speaker 2: Rodgers had a forgettable game with season lows and passive
Speaker 2: yards one hundred and twelve, quarterback rating forty four. Aaron
Speaker 2: Rodgers benched himself in the fourth quarter, essentially saying you
Speaker 2: know what, oh Jo, this is what he said. I mean,
Speaker 2: it was thirty three to nothing. We're sitting there and
Speaker 2: I said, at some point you'd probably go to tyrod
Speaker 2: Huh yeah, probably should have went to Tyron about five
Speaker 2: games ago. Huh.
Speaker 3: Oh, you know what, a Bills.
Speaker 2: I need y'all to give me y'all vaccination status cause
Speaker 2: that probably why y'all won.
Speaker 5: Hey, so I can ask you a question a check?
Speaker 5: Can I ask you a question a chack? Listen, listen
Speaker 5: to me, sure question. Then Anthony Richardson said he required
Speaker 5: in coming out the game and was saying, you know what,
Speaker 5: I'm going to mention myself. I guess what may be
Speaker 5: based on my play, when there's nothing wrong with him,
Speaker 5: there any difference.
Speaker 2: I'm just curious.
Speaker 3: I'm here a chat. I'm curious in your thoughts.
Speaker 2: I just want to I don't get it.
Speaker 5: I've never heard of a player actually mentioned himself unless
Speaker 5: he's saying he's been himself and and and they unless
Speaker 5: they actually did it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that's not what he said.
Speaker 2: He said he went to the code, basically went to
Speaker 2: the coach and said, we're sitting there, and I said,
Speaker 2: at some.
Speaker 5: Point, you can't give up with your team in the
Speaker 5: middle of the game, no matter how mad you're, Glenn,
Speaker 5: you still got to keep fighting.
Speaker 2: To the end. You have to. I'm so, I'm just
Speaker 2: tried to figure out. I mean, but if they probably did, look,
Speaker 2: I mean, he done begged enough for a job, or
Speaker 2: if they draft the quarterback, I would mentor him. You know,
Speaker 2: that's not a conversation for me. I mean, he's begging
Speaker 2: to stay there. You know, he's playing bad, and y'all
Speaker 2: giving people giving him every excuse. And and when you
Speaker 2: say that he's played bad, you're talking about his vaccination status.
Speaker 2: That ain't got nothing to do with him playing bad.
Speaker 2: That ain't got nothing to do and that was four
Speaker 2: years ago. Ain't even nobody talking about COVID. He keeps
Speaker 2: bringing that up to try to he's playing he's playing
Speaker 2: the shell game with yojo. Mm hmm, let's talk about COVID.
Speaker 2: So you Ryan hands what you're playing bad with. He
Speaker 2: tried to distract. That's why he keeps bringing it up.
Speaker 3: Don't nobody. Don't nobody bring up that he misled people.
Speaker 2: And you know, immunization, and he talk about, you know,
Speaker 2: if he vaccinated, he immunized. Nobody brings down we're talking
Speaker 2: about your play in twenty twenty four has been abysmal. Right,
Speaker 2: There's no there's no way around it. He's played bad.
Speaker 2: He's still a four time league MVP. He's still a
Speaker 2: Super Bowl champ, he still has thrown four hundred and
Speaker 2: ninety nine touchdowns. He's done all of that. And I
Speaker 2: say that, but he's played bad in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: There's no Whey around the chat. There's nowhere around the
Speaker 2: Jet fans, even the most die hard Stauncher supporters of
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers can honestly can with that minute.
Speaker 5: The season was abusinal. It's been bad. It's been really bad.
Speaker 5: Does he get an opportunity to redeem himself next year,
Speaker 5: that's the question.
Speaker 2: I don't believe he redeemed himself in New York. That's
Speaker 2: just just me, uh right, I think I mean Wooded Johnson.
Speaker 2: If the reports are to be believed that Wooded Johnson
Speaker 2: try to bench him earlier in the season. I don't
Speaker 2: know why you would bench him and then have him back.
Speaker 6: Now, that's just my thought. Owners have done things that
Speaker 6: made me scratch my head before. But all I know
Speaker 6: is this, they fired the coach coordinator.
Speaker 5: Hey, Like I said, you know, players get coaches fired.
Speaker 2: No, but oh Jo. The thing is this what you
Speaker 2: have to understand. Like that you basically turned you turn
Speaker 2: the organization over to it. Tampa did that for Tampa,
Speaker 2: did that for Brady. Broncos did that for Manning. The
Speaker 2: problem that you have to be careful with is that
Speaker 2: people sometimes to have power, they'll abuse that privilege. It'll
Speaker 2: tell you a lot. Give a person if you want
Speaker 2: to know what a person and people say, we'll give
Speaker 2: h money, give a person power, mm hmm.
Speaker 5: That'll tell you exactly what person is. That's telling y'all.
Speaker 2: And Aaron Rodgers has four hundred and nine in a
Speaker 2: career touchdowns suddenly five hundred and certain things is gonna
Speaker 2: be interesting to see.
Speaker 3: Does he play, does he start next week? Does he
Speaker 3: play next week?
Speaker 2: Uh. It's being reported that Garrett Wilson will reportedly request
Speaker 2: the trade if Rogers comes back as quarterbacks. I remember
Speaker 2: having a conversation with you this off season when they
Speaker 2: were in training camp and he kept talking to Rogers.
Speaker 3: I said, oh, Chose, that's not a good sign. You said, oh,
Speaker 3: you just the preseason.
Speaker 2: I said, I'm telling you, he keep talking, and I
Speaker 2: don't blame it, y'all keep telling me.
Speaker 5: All I know is that when I have he's not
Speaker 5: been being utilized the right way. But I know what
Speaker 5: he can do. I know they can do, and there's
Speaker 5: nothing there's nothing wrong with him. There's nothing wrong with him.
Speaker 5: But the quarterback player has been abysmal. And we've seen
Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers before be able to facilitate the ball and
Speaker 5: be able to addition and deliver it to multiple players
Speaker 5: at a time, because.
Speaker 2: He did it for a very long time in Green Bay.
Speaker 5: Maybe he just not the same quarterback we're you used
Speaker 5: to seeing. Because there's no reason Garrett Wilson to be upset.
Speaker 1: There's no reason.
Speaker 5: Garrett Wilson, with his talent, with his skill level and
Speaker 5: what he can contribute to that offense, there's no reason
Speaker 5: for this.
Speaker 2: And his time.
Speaker 5: He's young, he's not in his prime yet. It's being
Speaker 5: wasted in New York.
Speaker 2: It's crazy, it is and that's and that's the look guys, y'all,
Speaker 2: O chose have a little a different way. I just
Speaker 2: call it like I see it. I don't I don't
Speaker 2: have anything personal against anybody. I don't think I'm better
Speaker 2: than anybody. I don't care what somebody else is doing.
Speaker 2: I just look at it and said, Okay, the guys
Speaker 2: playing good. The guy's not playing good, and let me
Speaker 2: try to tell you, plain to you why he's not
Speaker 2: playing good or why he is playing good. And so
Speaker 2: that's why they just don't look at touchdown interception sacke
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. I'm trying to look at how it came.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to look at how it came to be.
Speaker 2: That's why we were able to look at the player
Speaker 2: and say, oh, that interception that y'all blaming on Russ.
Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no, no, no, that wasn't Russ.
Speaker 2: That was Pickings. He quit on the route. And so
Speaker 2: once he quit on the route, the safety said, why
Speaker 2: the hell am I gonna get wide? But there's not
Speaker 2: a threat White, The danger is screaming up the same here.
Speaker 2: Let me just cheat this here. Okay, thank you, thank you, Russ.
Speaker 2: I appreciate that anybody like Russ, how could you throw
Speaker 2: that had to say, had Pickins not quit on that
Speaker 2: route and he stayed wide, that means Reed would have
Speaker 2: had to stay wide, and that means fried Muth would
Speaker 2: have got over the top of it because he picked it.
Speaker 2: You have to understand everything ties together, O Joe. You
Speaker 2: we're talking about from a standpoint of running routes. We
Speaker 2: know how things tie together. Front side, we gotta maybe
Speaker 2: the front side. We got a digger hoping that safety
Speaker 2: get knows it that we got the post on the backside.
Speaker 2: That's what the Broncos ran the Diino. The man Marvin
Speaker 2: Mills Jr. Safety is already outside, so I'm gonna get
Speaker 2: him a little further. Now I'm gonna head back to
Speaker 2: the post. Safety ain't paying attention on the backside.
Speaker 3: Now I'm not.
Speaker 2: I'm past you. So in offense, things tie together. It's
Speaker 2: it's almost like, you know, rice and gravy. You know,
Speaker 2: you know corn bread and this of potatoes and that
Speaker 2: they go together. And so you trying to say, okay,
Speaker 2: this went together. But guys, at some point in time,
Speaker 2: even even our favorite players, they're not what they once
Speaker 2: were and they can't do it.
Speaker 3: And that's the one thing that you learn is that
Speaker 3: you can't do it consistently.
Speaker 2: You could have a game or two, but Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 2: to throw three hundred two fifty Aaron Rodgers turned hold
Speaker 2: on how many interceptions the man got. He probably got
Speaker 2: three seasons in twenty years in which he's had double
Speaker 2: digit interceptions. Roger was throwing forty five touchdowns with six picks,
Speaker 2: forty touchdowns with four picks routinely. Yeah, I'm not sure.
Speaker 3: I told the other night.
Speaker 5: I saw the graphic come up, and I'm looking. I thought,
Speaker 5: I'm like, man, what in the hell.
Speaker 2: If he does? He might not have, but one hundred
Speaker 2: and two. He has the greatest touchdown to interception ratio
Speaker 2: in NFL history. So we have four hundred and ninety
Speaker 2: nine touchdowns one hundred and thirteen picks, which.
Speaker 5: Is that's why he's afforded opportunities. Races the quarterback because
Speaker 5: of that. But people understand it, and you know they're
Speaker 5: gonna use that as a crutch over and over and over.
Speaker 5: He's going to get another opportunity to play if I
Speaker 5: don't know if it's going to be in New York.
Speaker 5: I don't know if it's going to be in New York.
Speaker 5: Knowing Aaron Rodgerson the way he is and the way
Speaker 5: he operates, he gonna want to come back. You're gonna
Speaker 5: want to come back.
Speaker 2: But here's the thing. Oh, Joe, as you yeah, O Joe,
Speaker 2: as you get older, you don't get to make the decisions. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but think about it. Tom Brady didn't get to write
Speaker 2: his inding, Peyton Manning didn't get to write his ending,
Speaker 2: Montana didn't get to write his ending. Emmitt Smith didn't
Speaker 2: get to write his ending. There are not very many
Speaker 2: guys because once you get old, you don't get.
Speaker 5: The right A very small problem. Aaron Rodgers might not
Speaker 5: be able to write the ending, right was that? But
Speaker 5: they can't close the page on that chapter because they
Speaker 5: don't have nobody to open the new book.
Speaker 2: Oh yetty Due, And why wouldn't you go make it?
Speaker 3: Sam Donald? I like you know? I like did I
Speaker 3: like you see oh oh, Joe. It's a lot.
Speaker 2: Sometimes sometime even in the relationship, the individual, the female
Speaker 2: or the male can be paralyzed because they're so afraid
Speaker 2: that somebody might not out there. What am I gonna do? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I know he don't pay for I know he beat
Speaker 3: on me. I know she cheat on me.
Speaker 5: I know this.
Speaker 2: But am I gonna be able to find somebody else? Yes, sir,
Speaker 2: you get paralyzed by that because you overthink said situation.
Speaker 2: I refuse to be at a situation like that. I
Speaker 2: refuse to I am not going to let you hold
Speaker 2: me hostage. Come on, I don't see it right now.
Speaker 2: Something on the other side because the jets cannot see, well,
Speaker 2: who is the quarterback right now that we can definitively say?
Speaker 3: Are you saying that there's somebody out there that gonna
Speaker 3: be worse?
Speaker 2: I mean, are you telling me? You mean to tell
Speaker 2: me you can't find somebody out there that can go
Speaker 2: five and eleven? I mean five and twelve, that can
Speaker 2: go six and ten, that can go seveny what nine
Speaker 2: and eight? You got to be kidding me. They're now
Speaker 2: no quarter of a chat. Tell me from wrong? Do
Speaker 2: y'all believe that there's another There's not another quarterback out
Speaker 2: there that can do what Rogers did this year. You
Speaker 2: will give me without him, but that guy, Oh Joe,
Speaker 2: that guy, you would be in the playoffs. But he's
Speaker 2: not that guy anymore. Carolina had Sam Donald and they
Speaker 2: have Baker Mayfield. I don't know if y'all know, but
Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield got like four or five games where he
Speaker 2: throwing four touchdowns this year that he threw five today
Speaker 2: with over three hundred yards. Sam Donald through three today
Speaker 2: he's throwing thirty five touchdowns, which is the third most
Speaker 2: for for for a Viking. So I don't know. So
Speaker 2: clearly these guys can play given the right sort of circumstances.
Speaker 3: Now, look, they would devoid a talent.
Speaker 2: They didn't have this level of talent in Carolina, so
Speaker 2: you have to take Look, I'm not saying that it's
Speaker 2: all Carolina fault, but Mike Evan and Chris Godwin. You
Speaker 2: look at what they got in town for not even
Speaker 2: though Chris Godwin is gone down, they still have quality
Speaker 2: receivers and they have a nice running game. You look
Speaker 2: at what they obviously, look at what Sam Darnod's throwing to.
Speaker 2: He got Aaron Jones in his backfield. He got Howkinson,
Speaker 2: who's been a Pro Bowl player. He's got Jetta, he's
Speaker 2: got Addison, he's got Naylor. I mean, look, he's got
Speaker 2: guys that he can throw the ball to. But it
Speaker 2: just goes to show you, I don't care without talent
Speaker 2: around you. Now you got some guys. Now, guys like
Speaker 2: a Mahomes, the guys like some guys can like Brady,
Speaker 2: they used to elevate, could elevate. You know. Not if
Speaker 2: you're in the league, you're good. But everybody is not
Speaker 2: gonna be a Jedda. Everybody's not gonna be Randy Mossos
Speaker 2: for the song. But what a great quarterback like a Mahomes,
Speaker 2: he can elevate Those guys play. When you're not that
Speaker 2: level of player, you need guys to elevate your plate.
Speaker 2: And that's what the great skilled position players around you
Speaker 2: are able to do.
Speaker 3: Baker Mayfield has been better.
Speaker 2: Since he got the Tampa that even when he was
Speaker 2: in Cleveland, because he got more talent around him. Sam
Speaker 2: Donald was never going to be this good and the
Speaker 2: Jets and at Carolina because he didn't have this level
Speaker 2: of talent around it.
Speaker 3: And so if you go out and sign a Sam Donald.
Speaker 3: Look at what you have.
Speaker 2: Do you have the roster that's equipped to help continue
Speaker 2: to elevate him, because if you don't, he's not Mahomes,
Speaker 2: he's not Burrough, he's not Lamar, he's not Josh Allen.
Speaker 2: That's not what he is.
Speaker 3: And I'm not finnh sit here and tell you.
Speaker 2: Because he's having and he's having an outstanding year, I'll
Speaker 2: give credit what credits do, but I don't look at
Speaker 2: him as a guy that's a multiplier no matter who
Speaker 2: you put out there.
Speaker 3: Oh Joe, he's gonna make them times too. That's not
Speaker 3: what that's.
Speaker 2: Lamar's reserved for the top four or five quarterbacks in
Speaker 2: the league. That's not your one quarterbacks.
Speaker 3: Are you?
Speaker 5: Are you elites that regards to what you put around
Speaker 5: They're gonna get the job done. Oh we get the
Speaker 5: job done.
Speaker 2: Then if you have then you have.
Speaker 5: Your tier two quarterbacks. Your tier two quarterbacks sometimes they
Speaker 5: need a little help. Now they're good, but they're not great.
Speaker 5: Now you put some good receivers around them.
Speaker 2: Yes, but they can have a game where they can
Speaker 2: have a game or two whether they are great, but
Speaker 2: more time, you need to have that hedge around them.
Speaker 3: To support them.
Speaker 2: Rock Borers record sitting they pushing the Raiders to a
Speaker 2: win versus the Saints. The Raiders posted back to back
Speaker 2: wins for the first time this season with a twenty
Speaker 2: five to ten victory over the New Orleans Saints. Rookie
Speaker 2: tight end Rock Buyers led the Raiders in receiving with
Speaker 2: seven catches seventy seven yards and set several records. Buyers
Speaker 2: set an NFL record for the most receiving yards by
Speaker 2: a rookie tight end and a single season, and the
Speaker 2: most reception by rookie in a single season. Uh, the
Speaker 2: most reception by rookie in a single season. And oh
Speaker 2: in the second quarter? Right, is that what you're saying?
Speaker 2: Okay in the second quarter?
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: Bowers also set a radied single season record for the
Speaker 2: most receiving yards by rookie and the most receptions. I mean,
Speaker 2: what's the record the most reception by Titus Jason Witton
Speaker 2: one hundred and sixteen sixteen.
Speaker 5: They were did any boy.
Speaker 3: Because he has what what does he happen?
Speaker 2: No? One hundred and eight because I think Malik Neighbors
Speaker 2: has like one hundred and six. He's right there on it.
Speaker 3: By zach Ertz.
Speaker 2: Okay, zach Ertz has one sixteen rock Bowers has how many?
Speaker 2: One o eight? Now, so he's nine catches away from
Speaker 2: breaking the record. Hey, all I know is I'm throwing
Speaker 2: in the ball. I'm throwing the ball every day, every day. Oh,
Speaker 2: I forgot passer. Tain gonna get some votes too, because
Speaker 2: when he covered Jamar Chase had throw on what six
Speaker 2: seven targets? He had three catches for twenty seven yards
Speaker 2: A getst certain and when when Certain wasn't on him,
Speaker 2: what's you called, Joey?
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow hunted, Well, hey, oh you guard somebody else?
Speaker 3: Get ready? Yeah, so's gonna get some He's gonna get
Speaker 3: some baths.
Speaker 5: He good man, he good that size to be that big. Yeah,
Speaker 5: they talked, Hey listen to be that flu great hips,
Speaker 5: great technique. He can play off, he can play man.
Speaker 5: He's really good and always in position to make a play,
Speaker 5: always in position to make a play.
Speaker 2: I like him.
Speaker 1: I like him to lie the volume