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Speaker 3: Thank you guys for joining us again.

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Speaker 2: Y'all know me. I'm your favorite Oak Shannon Sharp, that guy,

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Speaker 3: That's Chad Ocho, Sinko Johnson.

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Speaker 2: I just read an article today that t Higgins market

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Speaker 2: is going to be somewhere a little bit, a little

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Speaker 2: north of thirty million a year on the free agent market. Yes, sir, Now,

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Speaker 2: look that's his choice. I think he's saying all the

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Speaker 2: right things, and you don't want to come because you

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Speaker 2: know Joe if he goes, Oh, he's selfish. Why he's

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Speaker 2: helfish Mike Brian made all that money, he ain't paid

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Speaker 2: but a handful of people since he owned the team.

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Speaker 2: You got, you got, you got.

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Speaker 5: You gotta talk to him. I can't say it no more.

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Speaker 5: I mean you, can you please tell the people in

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Speaker 5: the chat. I'm sure I'm listen. I know we have

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Speaker 5: a lot of Bangal fans in the chat, right, I

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Speaker 5: know we do. Can you please tell them the importance

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Speaker 5: of your first contract as a player, after you put

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Speaker 5: all the work in to get to this point. And

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Speaker 5: I know I know he means well, I know he doesn't.

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Speaker 5: I would love to see him stay. But you got

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Speaker 5: to say something because I done said that. I don't

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Speaker 5: think people listen to me because they've been.

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Speaker 1: Arguing me down. You know my fans, you know that

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Speaker 1: I love them. They've been arguing me down based on

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Speaker 1: what I said.

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Speaker 2: Maybe if they hear from you on the first contract,

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Speaker 2: especially with t Higgins was a second round pick. If

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Speaker 2: I'm not mistaken, your first contract is what solidifies everything. Now,

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Speaker 2: that gives you if you want to down the road, oho,

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Speaker 2: if you want to take a little less money, or

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Speaker 2: you want to give them a little haircut. Now, look

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Speaker 2: when I say give your haircut. I ain't getting no

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Speaker 2: damn ball head now. I ain't getting no kojack. That's

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Speaker 2: what you call the ball here. When I was growing

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Speaker 2: up with Jack Hey, the old man going to Hey, Hey, Green,

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Speaker 2: give me that Kojak, that miant a ball head. Nah,

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Speaker 2: I ain't getting no. I ain't getting no ball Now.

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Speaker 2: If you say, okay, I'm gonna stay, I could go

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Speaker 2: get thirty thirty one million have a free agent. Now

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Speaker 2: you're gonna give me twenty eight twenty nine. So when

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Speaker 2: I projected out, that's about okay, I'm gonna lose ten million.

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Speaker 2: I can you know what ojo With a couple of

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Speaker 2: you know, with a couple of incentives here or there,

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Speaker 2: I do a couple of appearances. I can make that up.

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Speaker 2: But when you tell me on the free agent market,

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Speaker 2: I can get five years, one hundred and sixty million

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Speaker 2: with eighty million guaranteed. And what y'all can only get

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Speaker 2: to is one hundred and twenty million. Oh hey on,

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Speaker 2: nah twenty when you strike. Once you get past twenty

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Speaker 2: thirty million, I can't even hear nothing y'all saying yeah,

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Speaker 2: y'all bull jeving. I can't give it because here's the thing, ojo. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: if the networks were to go to the NFL and say,

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Speaker 2: y'all cut us a deal, what you think they're gonna say? Ojo, No,

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Speaker 2: they not getting no deal from the NFL is not

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Speaker 2: given because I don't think y'all understand. Chat. Let stay

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Speaker 2: with me right here. Do y'all realize that even though

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Speaker 2: like ESPN has paid two point two billion, and Foxes

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Speaker 2: even on playing the two billion, the one point eight

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Speaker 2: the other two point two billion, that in order for

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Speaker 2: ESPN to show video clips they gotta pay for that too.

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Speaker 2: Eleven minutes of video clips is about two million dollars.

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Speaker 2: Let that sink it. Chet, Listen to me, eleven minutes

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Speaker 2: worth of video clips? How many video clips do you

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Speaker 2: think ESPN show in a day? How many of you

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Speaker 2: think they showed in a week?

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Speaker 3: Same for Fox, same for CBS, same for NBC, same

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Speaker 3: for Amazon.

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Speaker 2: Think about that? So I just play hold on. It's like, oh, Joe, yes, sir,

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Speaker 2: I go pay two hundred thousand dollars for a car.

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Speaker 2: You mean to jail me. I gotta play for the

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Speaker 2: umbrella to come in the car too. You can't give

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, listen, listen, I just I don't understand,

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Speaker 5: and I think about the nature of the business when

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Speaker 5: it comes time to get paid for one the teams

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Speaker 5: aren't going to come to you with your best interest

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Speaker 1: They gonna they gonnall. Of course, they gonna know about you.

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Speaker 5: You know, I understand, I know the game that they're

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Speaker 5: going to play as much as I love the game

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Speaker 5: of football, but I understand the bidding war.

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Speaker 2: It's almost like, oh, just reminds you of like in

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Speaker 2: the uh in Pennsylvania, Montana Marino, name of Kelly, all

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Speaker 2: what's the boy names at Equippa. Tony Door said, all Equippa.

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Speaker 2: I mean that that little, small, little Pennsylvania. A lot

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Speaker 2: of Hall of famers came out of there. But this

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Speaker 2: is I mean, within one hundred and twenty miles of

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Speaker 2: each other. It'll be interesting they probably you know, chasing

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Speaker 5: Whatever whatever, whatever parts of Louisiana they were from. They

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Speaker 5: didn't just start getting good.

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Speaker 3: They've been good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they've been.

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Speaker 3: Good way back then.

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Speaker 5: So obviously, you know, you know, players in different counties

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Speaker 1: So I'm sure they know each other.

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Speaker 5: Especially the seven or seven stuff when they were coming up,

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Speaker 5: and I'm sure they crossed paths, you know, in those

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Speaker 2: Chase is gonna win. We're gonna win the triple crown.

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Speaker 2: Jetta is having an outstanding season. He's over a undred,

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Speaker 2: one hundred catches uh elite neighbors, He's on pace. Uh well,

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Speaker 2: the only thing, yeah, is that he's got Brian uh

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Speaker 2: brock Bowers nine catches, that said, the single season record

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Speaker 5: That says a lot too, man, that's a lot like Listen,

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Speaker 5: I bron Bowers was the real deal at Georgia.

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Speaker 2: He was a real deal.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know what he would be in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: We've we've seen many players.

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Speaker 5: We've seen many players I dominate, you know, at the

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Speaker 5: brock Bowers is everything is advertised, boy, everything is advertised.

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Speaker 2: Do you know what I thought you? Yes, sir, you

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Speaker 2: know why I thought he would be good? O Joe

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Speaker 2: because he's not a nest tight end, right, He's an

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Speaker 2: That's tremendous run after the catch. He has great body control,

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Speaker 2: he got great hands, can catch the ball in traffic.

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Speaker 2: He's good run after the catch. Now, is he grownk

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Speaker 2: Is he Mark m'barro with some of these big George Kittle? No, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: he's not that. Now. I'm not saying he's that, but

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Speaker 2: he's a decent. And what I tell guys all the time,

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Speaker 2: if you are, you can play, you can be special

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Speaker 2: in this league. Because that's all I'm asking. And that's

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Speaker 2: what I told a boy. I said, Mikey, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: be more of an asset than I am a liability. Now. Now,

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Speaker 2: Reggie and straight handed Bruce, aw, it ain't happening. So

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Speaker 2: way you gotta approach it. But before leading receivers all

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Speaker 2: within one hundred and twenty miles of each other, Chase Justin, Jefferson,

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Speaker 2: Florenes has done damage on some amazing things with the bikes.

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Speaker 2: He was he was never the DC Okay, So he's

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Speaker 2: the linebackers coach that got the job. Okay because Patricia

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Speaker 3: You like Brian Florence to.

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Speaker 5: The now, Listen, I think Brian Floyd is and what

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Speaker 5: it comes to the Vikings defense, But I think it

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Speaker 5: would be good.

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Speaker 1: I think he'd be a good fit.

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Speaker 5: he's been going going through a god damn quarterback carousel

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Speaker 5: to be able to Again. I said all the time,

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Speaker 5: you can't compete unless you got a quarterback, Yes, you can't.

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Speaker 5: Zero opportunity.

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Speaker 2: And who did he have? Who do you have about you?

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Speaker 2: He had Jimmy g Yeah, Garnament, you a O'Connell, those

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Speaker 5: Remember it's no disrespected them, no disrespecting them. But you know,

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Speaker 5: we talk about tier two, tier three quarterback.

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Speaker 2: What am I supposed to do with that? None?

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Speaker 1: You can't do. It's unfortunately, you give.

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Speaker 2: Me chicken poods and make me some chicken salad, and

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Speaker 2: I needed to be yummy. You're right, I mean, I

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Speaker 2: like Ryan Floyd's I think you. I think you've done

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Speaker 2: a great job of rehabilitating himself because all the things

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Speaker 1: That way of coaching wouldn't work in this area anyway.

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Speaker 2: If you look at look at the guys that come

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Speaker 2: I don't know why when that's not your personality. When

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Speaker 2: For now, you're not him? Why try to be him?

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Speaker 2: So that would be my advice to him. I hope

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Speaker 1: Was very important.

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Speaker 5: But you have some pieces you get to work with

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Speaker 2: And they got a lot of nont how much cap

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Speaker 3: They're gonna have a little dead cap space. But O joe,

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Speaker 2: It's really really rare, o Joe, that you can build

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Speaker 2: don't think enough guys realize that. Yeah. I mean, I

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Speaker 5: Based on where he was at his being in safety,

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Speaker 5: And the stove was hot for him.

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Speaker 2: Right, And that's think about it, because think about had

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Speaker 2: then he wouldn't have got that money. Jets are reportedly

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Speaker 3: The Jets, o Jo, who would be the better fit.

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Speaker 3: I'm biased, so don't ask me.

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Speaker 1: Rex going back.

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Speaker 2: Uh No, but I'm saying I know Rex Saxy Rex

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Speaker 2: He say, Son, I've washed the tape. He says, we're

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Speaker 2: He drafted all those receivers, and I remembered him telling

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that is motivating in itself.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. Who you like best? You like Ron Rabelo, you.

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Speaker 5: Like I don't think Ron has the right and personality

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Speaker 5: is not the right word to use. He just doesn't

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Speaker 2: Rex have been there, done that. He knows, he knows, Uh,

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Speaker 2: he definitely knows. He definitely knows how to talk to

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Speaker 1: It doesn't fit. He just doesn't fit. I mean, good,

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Speaker 5: I don't think that's what they need, you like, especially

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Speaker 2: Right If I'm thinking, yeah, yeah, we definitely have a

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Speaker 1: See that's the scary part. So it doesn't matter you

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Speaker 1: that thing. It ain't no point, It ain't no point.

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Speaker 5: You're signing you're signing yourself up for suicide, basically, but

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Speaker 2: About your checking this out. The Bills defeated the Jets

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Speaker 2: forty team. At one point, the score was forty to eight.

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers had a one point two QBR today versus

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Speaker 2: Rodgers had a forgettable game with season lows and passive

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Speaker 2: Rodgers benched himself in the fourth quarter, essentially saying you

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Speaker 2: know what, oh Jo, this is what he said. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it was thirty three to nothing. We're sitting there and

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Speaker 2: I said, at some point you'd probably go to tyrod

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Speaker 3: Oh, you know what, a Bills.

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Speaker 2: I need y'all to give me y'all vaccination status cause

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Speaker 2: that probably why y'all won.

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Speaker 5: Hey, so I can ask you a question a check?

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Speaker 5: Can I ask you a question a chack? Listen, listen

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Speaker 5: I'm going to mention myself. I guess what may be

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Speaker 2: I'm just curious.

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Speaker 3: I'm here a chat. I'm curious in your thoughts.

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Speaker 2: I just want to I don't get it.

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Speaker 5: I've never heard of a player actually mentioned himself unless

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that's not what he said.

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Speaker 2: He said he went to the code, basically went to

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Speaker 5: Point, you can't give up with your team in the

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Speaker 5: middle of the game, no matter how mad you're, Glenn,

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Speaker 5: you still got to keep fighting.

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Speaker 2: To the end. You have to. I'm so, I'm just

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Speaker 2: I mean, he done begged enough for a job, or

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Speaker 2: that's not a conversation for me. I mean, he's begging

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Speaker 2: giving people giving him every excuse. And and when you

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Speaker 2: That ain't got nothing to do with him playing bad.

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Speaker 2: That ain't got nothing to do and that was four

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Speaker 2: years ago. Ain't even nobody talking about COVID. He keeps

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Speaker 2: bringing that up to try to he's playing he's playing

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Speaker 2: the shell game with yojo. Mm hmm, let's talk about COVID.

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Speaker 2: So you Ryan hands what you're playing bad with. He

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Speaker 2: tried to distract. That's why he keeps bringing it up.

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Speaker 3: Don't nobody. Don't nobody bring up that he misled people.

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Speaker 2: And you know, immunization, and he talk about, you know,

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Speaker 2: about your play in twenty twenty four has been abysmal. Right,

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Speaker 2: There's no there's no way around it. He's played bad.

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Speaker 2: He's still a four time league MVP. He's still a

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Speaker 2: There's no Whey around the chat. There's nowhere around the

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Speaker 5: The season was abusinal. It's been bad. It's been really bad.

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Speaker 5: Does he get an opportunity to redeem himself next year,

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Speaker 2: I don't believe he redeemed himself in New York. That's

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Speaker 2: If the reports are to be believed that Wooded Johnson

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Speaker 6: Now, that's just my thought. Owners have done things that

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Speaker 5: Hey, Like I said, you know, players get coaches fired.

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Speaker 2: No, but oh Jo. The thing is this what you

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Speaker 5: That'll tell you exactly what person is. That's telling y'all.

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Speaker 2: And Aaron Rodgers has four hundred and nine in a

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Speaker 3: Does he play, does he start next week? Does he

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Speaker 2: Uh. It's being reported that Garrett Wilson will reportedly request

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Speaker 3: I said, oh, Chose, that's not a good sign. You said, oh,

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Speaker 3: you just the preseason.

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Speaker 2: I said, I'm telling you, he keep talking, and I

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Speaker 5: All I know is that when I have he's not

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Speaker 5: been being utilized the right way. But I know what

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Speaker 5: nothing there's nothing wrong with him. There's nothing wrong with him.

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Speaker 5: But the quarterback player has been abysmal. And we've seen

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Speaker 2: He did it for a very long time in Green Bay.

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Speaker 5: Maybe he just not the same quarterback we're you used

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Speaker 1: There's no reason.

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Speaker 5: Garrett Wilson, with his talent, with his skill level and

433
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 5: what he can contribute to that offense, there's no reason

434
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 5: for this.

435
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:33,440
Speaker 2: And his time.

436
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 5: He's young, he's not in his prime yet. It's being

437
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 5: wasted in New York.

438
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:45,160
Speaker 2: It's crazy, it is and that's and that's the look guys, y'all,

439
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,879
Speaker 2: O chose have a little a different way. I just

440
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,200
Speaker 2: call it like I see it. I don't I don't

441
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 2: have anything personal against anybody. I don't think I'm better

442
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 2: than anybody. I don't care what somebody else is doing.

443
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 2: I just look at it and said, Okay, the guys

444
00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 2: playing good. The guy's not playing good, and let me

445
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 2: try to tell you, plain to you why he's not

446
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 2: playing good or why he is playing good. And so

447
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 2: that's why they just don't look at touchdown interception sacke

448
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,360
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. I'm trying to look at how it came.

449
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 2: I'm trying to look at how it came to be.

450
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 2: That's why we were able to look at the player

451
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 2: and say, oh, that interception that y'all blaming on Russ.

452
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no, no, no, that wasn't Russ.

453
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 2: That was Pickings. He quit on the route. And so

454
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:22,879
Speaker 2: once he quit on the route, the safety said, why

455
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,399
Speaker 2: the hell am I gonna get wide? But there's not

456
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,400
Speaker 2: a threat White, The danger is screaming up the same here.

457
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 2: Let me just cheat this here. Okay, thank you, thank you, Russ.

458
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,880
Speaker 2: I appreciate that anybody like Russ, how could you throw

459
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 2: that had to say, had Pickins not quit on that

460
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 2: route and he stayed wide, that means Reed would have

461
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 2: had to stay wide, and that means fried Muth would

462
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 2: have got over the top of it because he picked it.

463
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 2: You have to understand everything ties together, O Joe. You

464
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 2: we're talking about from a standpoint of running routes. We

465
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 2: know how things tie together. Front side, we gotta maybe

466
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,679
Speaker 2: the front side. We got a digger hoping that safety

467
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,160
Speaker 2: get knows it that we got the post on the backside.

468
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 2: That's what the Broncos ran the Diino. The man Marvin

469
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,919
Speaker 2: Mills Jr. Safety is already outside, so I'm gonna get

470
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 2: him a little further. Now I'm gonna head back to

471
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 2: the post. Safety ain't paying attention on the backside.

472
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 3: Now I'm not.

473
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 2: I'm past you. So in offense, things tie together. It's

474
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 2: it's almost like, you know, rice and gravy. You know,

475
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 2: you know corn bread and this of potatoes and that

476
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 2: they go together. And so you trying to say, okay,

477
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 2: this went together. But guys, at some point in time,

478
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 2: even even our favorite players, they're not what they once

479
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 2: were and they can't do it.

480
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 3: And that's the one thing that you learn is that

481
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 3: you can't do it consistently.

482
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 2: You could have a game or two, but Aaron Rodgers

483
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 2: to throw three hundred two fifty Aaron Rodgers turned hold

484
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 2: on how many interceptions the man got. He probably got

485
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 2: three seasons in twenty years in which he's had double

486
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 2: digit interceptions. Roger was throwing forty five touchdowns with six picks,

487
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 2: forty touchdowns with four picks routinely. Yeah, I'm not sure.

488
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 3: I told the other night.

489
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 5: I saw the graphic come up, and I'm looking. I thought,

490
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 5: I'm like, man, what in the hell.

491
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 2: If he does? He might not have, but one hundred

492
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 2: and two. He has the greatest touchdown to interception ratio

493
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Speaker 2: in NFL history. So we have four hundred and ninety

494
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 2: nine touchdowns one hundred and thirteen picks, which.

495
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 5: Is that's why he's afforded opportunities. Races the quarterback because

496
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 5: of that. But people understand it, and you know they're

497
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,120
Speaker 5: gonna use that as a crutch over and over and over.

498
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 5: He's going to get another opportunity to play if I

499
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 5: don't know if it's going to be in New York.

500
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 5: I don't know if it's going to be in New York.

501
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 5: Knowing Aaron Rodgerson the way he is and the way

502
00:26:55,480 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 5: he operates, he gonna want to come back. You're gonna

503
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 5: want to come back.

504
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 2: But here's the thing. Oh, Joe, as you yeah, O Joe,

505
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 2: as you get older, you don't get to make the decisions. Yeah,

506
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 2: but think about it. Tom Brady didn't get to write

507
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 2: his inding, Peyton Manning didn't get to write his ending,

508
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 2: Montana didn't get to write his ending. Emmitt Smith didn't

509
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 2: get to write his ending. There are not very many

510
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 2: guys because once you get old, you don't get.

511
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 5: The right A very small problem. Aaron Rodgers might not

512
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 5: be able to write the ending, right was that? But

513
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 5: they can't close the page on that chapter because they

514
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 5: don't have nobody to open the new book.

515
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 2: Oh yetty Due, And why wouldn't you go make it?

516
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 3: Sam Donald? I like you know? I like did I

517
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 3: like you see oh oh, Joe. It's a lot.

518
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:03,880
Speaker 2: Sometimes sometime even in the relationship, the individual, the female

519
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 2: or the male can be paralyzed because they're so afraid

520
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 2: that somebody might not out there. What am I gonna do? Yeah?

521
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 3: I know he don't pay for I know he beat

522
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 3: on me. I know she cheat on me.

523
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 5: I know this.

524
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 2: But am I gonna be able to find somebody else? Yes, sir,

525
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 2: you get paralyzed by that because you overthink said situation.

526
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 2: I refuse to be at a situation like that. I

527
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,160
Speaker 2: refuse to I am not going to let you hold

528
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 2: me hostage. Come on, I don't see it right now.

529
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 2: Something on the other side because the jets cannot see, well,

530
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 2: who is the quarterback right now that we can definitively say?

531
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Speaker 3: Are you saying that there's somebody out there that gonna

532
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 3: be worse?

533
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 2: I mean, are you telling me? You mean to tell

534
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 2: me you can't find somebody out there that can go

535
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 2: five and eleven? I mean five and twelve, that can

536
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 2: go six and ten, that can go seveny what nine

537
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 2: and eight? You got to be kidding me. They're now

538
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 2: no quarter of a chat. Tell me from wrong? Do

539
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 2: y'all believe that there's another There's not another quarterback out

540
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 2: there that can do what Rogers did this year. You

541
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 2: will give me without him, but that guy, Oh Joe,

542
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 2: that guy, you would be in the playoffs. But he's

543
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 2: not that guy anymore. Carolina had Sam Donald and they

544
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 2: have Baker Mayfield. I don't know if y'all know, but

545
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield got like four or five games where he

546
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 2: throwing four touchdowns this year that he threw five today

547
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 2: with over three hundred yards. Sam Donald through three today

548
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 2: he's throwing thirty five touchdowns, which is the third most

549
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 2: for for for a Viking. So I don't know. So

550
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 2: clearly these guys can play given the right sort of circumstances.

551
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 3: Now, look, they would devoid a talent.

552
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 2: They didn't have this level of talent in Carolina, so

553
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 2: you have to take Look, I'm not saying that it's

554
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 2: all Carolina fault, but Mike Evan and Chris Godwin. You

555
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 2: look at what they got in town for not even

556
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 2: though Chris Godwin is gone down, they still have quality

557
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 2: receivers and they have a nice running game. You look

558
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 2: at what they obviously, look at what Sam Darnod's throwing to.

559
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 2: He got Aaron Jones in his backfield. He got Howkinson,

560
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 2: who's been a Pro Bowl player. He's got Jetta, he's

561
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 2: got Addison, he's got Naylor. I mean, look, he's got

562
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 2: guys that he can throw the ball to. But it

563
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 2: just goes to show you, I don't care without talent

564
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 2: around you. Now you got some guys. Now, guys like

565
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 2: a Mahomes, the guys like some guys can like Brady,

566
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 2: they used to elevate, could elevate. You know. Not if

567
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 2: you're in the league, you're good. But everybody is not

568
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 2: gonna be a Jedda. Everybody's not gonna be Randy Mossos

569
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 2: for the song. But what a great quarterback like a Mahomes,

570
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 2: he can elevate Those guys play. When you're not that

571
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 2: level of player, you need guys to elevate your plate.

572
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 2: And that's what the great skilled position players around you

573
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 2: are able to do.

574
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 3: Baker Mayfield has been better.

575
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 2: Since he got the Tampa that even when he was

576
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 2: in Cleveland, because he got more talent around him. Sam

577
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 2: Donald was never going to be this good and the

578
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 2: Jets and at Carolina because he didn't have this level

579
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 2: of talent around it.

580
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 3: And so if you go out and sign a Sam Donald.

581
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 3: Look at what you have.

582
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 2: Do you have the roster that's equipped to help continue

583
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 2: to elevate him, because if you don't, he's not Mahomes,

584
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 2: he's not Burrough, he's not Lamar, he's not Josh Allen.

585
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 2: That's not what he is.

586
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 3: And I'm not finnh sit here and tell you.

587
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 2: Because he's having and he's having an outstanding year, I'll

588
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 2: give credit what credits do, but I don't look at

589
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:54,479
Speaker 2: him as a guy that's a multiplier no matter who

590
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 2: you put out there.

591
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 3: Oh Joe, he's gonna make them times too. That's not

592
00:31:58,160 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 3: what that's.

593
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 2: Lamar's reserved for the top four or five quarterbacks in

594
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 2: the league. That's not your one quarterbacks.

595
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 3: Are you?

596
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 5: Are you elites that regards to what you put around

597
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 5: They're gonna get the job done. Oh we get the

598
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 5: job done.

599
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 2: Then if you have then you have.

600
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 5: Your tier two quarterbacks. Your tier two quarterbacks sometimes they

601
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 5: need a little help. Now they're good, but they're not great.

602
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 5: Now you put some good receivers around them.

603
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,239
Speaker 2: Yes, but they can have a game where they can

604
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 2: have a game or two whether they are great, but

605
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 2: more time, you need to have that hedge around them.

606
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 3: To support them.

607
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 2: Rock Borers record sitting they pushing the Raiders to a

608
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 2: win versus the Saints. The Raiders posted back to back

609
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 2: wins for the first time this season with a twenty

610
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 2: five to ten victory over the New Orleans Saints. Rookie

611
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 2: tight end Rock Buyers led the Raiders in receiving with

612
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 2: seven catches seventy seven yards and set several records. Buyers

613
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 2: set an NFL record for the most receiving yards by

614
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 2: a rookie tight end and a single season, and the

615
00:32:53,960 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 2: most reception by rookie in a single season. Uh, the

616
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 2: most reception by rookie in a single season. And oh

617
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 2: in the second quarter? Right, is that what you're saying?

618
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 2: Okay in the second quarter?

619
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 3: Okay.

620
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 2: Bowers also set a radied single season record for the

621
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 2: most receiving yards by rookie and the most receptions. I mean,

622
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 2: what's the record the most reception by Titus Jason Witton

623
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 2: one hundred and sixteen sixteen.

624
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 5: They were did any boy.

625
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 3: Because he has what what does he happen?

626
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 2: No? One hundred and eight because I think Malik Neighbors

627
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 2: has like one hundred and six. He's right there on it.

628
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 3: By zach Ertz.

629
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 2: Okay, zach Ertz has one sixteen rock Bowers has how many?

630
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 2: One o eight? Now, so he's nine catches away from

631
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 2: breaking the record. Hey, all I know is I'm throwing

632
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 2: in the ball. I'm throwing the ball every day, every day. Oh,

633
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 2: I forgot passer. Tain gonna get some votes too, because

634
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 2: when he covered Jamar Chase had throw on what six

635
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 2: seven targets? He had three catches for twenty seven yards

636
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 2: A getst certain and when when Certain wasn't on him,

637
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,320
Speaker 2: what's you called, Joey?

638
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow hunted, Well, hey, oh you guard somebody else?

639
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 3: Get ready? Yeah, so's gonna get some He's gonna get

640
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:21,919
Speaker 3: some baths.

641
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 5: He good man, he good that size to be that big. Yeah,

642
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 5: they talked, Hey listen to be that flu great hips,

643
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 5: great technique. He can play off, he can play man.

644
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 5: He's really good and always in position to make a play,

645
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 5: always in position to make a play.

646
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 2: I like him.

647
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 1: I like him to lie the volume