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Speaker 1: Good Monday morning, so nice to have you with us

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Speaker 1: here on Verdict, with Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you

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Speaker 1: and Senator. It was a very big weekend when it

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Speaker 1: came to news a horrific attack in Colorado, and also

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Speaker 1: a lot going on with Ukraine and Russia.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 3: Tragically, the radical anti American anti Israel left keeps getting worse,

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Speaker 3: keeps getting more violence. We saw two weeks ago to

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Speaker 3: Israeli supporters, people who worked in the Israeli consulate in Washington,

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Speaker 3: d C. Murdered on the streets of DC, murdered by

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Speaker 3: a radical leftist who screamed free Palestine. And then just

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Speaker 3: this weekend we saw five people in Colorado who were

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Speaker 3: engaged in a pro Israel protest speaking up for the hostages,

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Speaker 3: calling on Hamas to release the hostages, saying enough is enough,

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Speaker 3: and a deranged lunatic fire bombed them through Molotov cocktails

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Speaker 3: at them, lit them on fire. It was tragic at

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Speaker 3: this point, little past.

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Speaker 4: Midnight Sunday night.

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Speaker 3: What we know right now is five people are reported

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Speaker 3: to be injured too, with very serious injuries. And this

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Speaker 3: is sadly the face of the angry anti American left

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Speaker 3: and the angry anti Israel left. They are violent and

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Speaker 3: far too often that they are committing acts of enormous

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Speaker 3: violence and even murder. And this pattern the media apologizes

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Speaker 3: for them, whitewashes that what they do covers up for them.

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Speaker 4: But Verdict is not going to do that.

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Speaker 3: We're going to give you the facts. We also have

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Speaker 3: in Russia and Ukraine. An extraordinary moment, Ukraine strikes back.

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Speaker 3: Ukraine launched on audacious drone attack on Russia. They took

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Speaker 3: out more than forty Russian bombers deep inside Russian territory.

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Speaker 3: It was it was an attack that was meticulously panned out.

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Speaker 3: It is similar to Israel's attack on Hezbala with the pagers,

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Speaker 3: and that it took enormous preparation to carry out and

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Speaker 3: it was remarkably effective. Hopefully this attack will accelerate ending

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Speaker 3: the war in Ukraine and it may bring Russia to

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Speaker 3: the bargaining table to say enough is enough.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that may, like you said, be one of

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Speaker 1: the silver linings of this attack. And it took a

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Speaker 1: let's talk about the two narratives coming out of this

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Speaker 1: attack in Colorado. There's many that are wanting this to

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Speaker 1: just be some random attack and you know, kind of

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Speaker 1: move on. They don't want you to know the facts.

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Speaker 1: They don't want you to know how the person got

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Speaker 1: let him in this country. They don't want you to

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Speaker 1: know he over state a visa. They don't want you

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Speaker 1: you to know that he was an anti Israel individual

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Speaker 1: that was trying to or not trying setting elderly Jewish

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Speaker 1: individuals who do this walk every week to remember the

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Speaker 1: hostages being held by Hamas. They do this every week,

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Speaker 1: and they and he deliberately was trying to set them

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Speaker 4: Well, and let's set the stage.

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Speaker 3: This is in Boulder, Colorado. It was a weekly event

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Speaker 3: peaceful protest. But I'll tell you what people knew. People

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Speaker 3: were going to be Jews there. There were going to

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Speaker 3: anti Israel that left, the hate of the anti America

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Speaker 3: anti Israel left is so great that simply knowing that

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Speaker 3: there were Jews who were present somewhere, sadly in those

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Speaker 3: radical circles. It has proven to be an invitation to violence.

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Speaker 3: And in this instance, the man threw multiple bottles filled

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Speaker 3: and I are are describing this at just after midnight

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Speaker 3: I want to give a caveat that. Inevitably, when you

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Speaker 4: Some of the facts that.

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Speaker 3: Are being reported today will prove less than accurate. But

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Speaker 3: on the face of this, it is obviously a terror attack.

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Speaker 3: It is not complicated to figure out who the targets were.

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Speaker 3: And yet I got to say, I want you to listen,

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Speaker 3: and the FBI, to their credits, said right from the beginning,

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Speaker 3: this is a targeted terror attack because they actually are

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Speaker 3: not ostriches with their heads plunged into the sand. I

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Speaker 4: Give a listen. Was an actual protest going on when

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Speaker 2: Said that would indicate anything at all to do with

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Speaker 2: I believe that happens frequently down here. They were there

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Speaker 2: this evening. FBI is already calling it a targeted terror attick.

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Speaker 2: Would you also refer to it as a terror attack?

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Speaker 2: So I've been in contact with our local FBI multiple times.

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Speaker 2: We are in contact with them here. We are not

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Speaker 2: calling it a terror attack at this point. Again, it's

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Speaker 2: way too early to speculate motive. I know there's a

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Speaker 2: just to give us a little bit of patience while

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Speaker 2: debrief them and interview them. As you do that, I

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Speaker 2: think the picture will become more clear, but it would

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Speaker 2: be it would be irresponsible for me to speculate on

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Speaker 2: I know is it's an adult male. We're working to

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Speaker 2: well as we figure that out.

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Speaker 1: It is amazing to hear the Boulder Police chief put

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Speaker 1: is the one that's overreacting, calling this a terrorist tack. Clearly,

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Speaker 1: I'm not going with those guys over there. Cash, Mattel

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Speaker 1: it wouldn't be helpful, implying the FBI's like amateur hour

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, this sadly is woke politics. If you have

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Speaker 3: taken in October seventh, a weekly recurring event where everyone knows,

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Speaker 3: That this is not subtle. This is not someone tripped

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Speaker 3: in calling it terrorism. I mean this same knucklehead, By

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Speaker 3: He was flying an ISIS flag, and yet the local

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Speaker 3: You know what if a guy drives a jeep with

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Speaker 3: an ISIS flag into a crowd and murders people, it's terrorism.

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Speaker 3: You don't need a deep subtle analysis to tell. And

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Speaker 3: let me give you another fact that miraculously the corporate

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Speaker 3: at Fox he reported tonight quote breaking. Three senior DHS

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Speaker 3: sources tell Fox News that the Bolder terror suspect is

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Speaker 3: an Egyptian national in the US illegally as a visa

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Speaker 3: told Mohammed Sabree Soloman arrived at lax on eight twenty seven,

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Speaker 4: I'm told on nine.

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Speaker 3: Two he filed some sort of claim with USCIS, potentially

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Speaker 3: this guy was an illegal immigrant who came from Egypt.

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Speaker 3: He overstated his visa, which made him illegal, and the

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Speaker 3: Biden administration allowed him to stay. They allowed someone to

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Speaker 3: committed throwing molotov cocktails at at peaceful Jewish protesters standing

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Speaker 3: up for hostages. It's also been reported one of the

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Speaker 3: victims of this firebombing was a Holocaust survivor. This is

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Speaker 3: the consequence of Joe Biden, the Democrat's open borders. When

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Speaker 3: you let terrorists into the country. Shockingly, they emit acts

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Speaker 1: There's also another aspect of this that the media is

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Speaker 1: refusing to touch, and that is the age of the

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Speaker 4: The last administration. Yes, yes, that are terrorists.

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Speaker 3: understand this happened not by Ukraine but three thousand miles away.

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Speaker 3: And the bombers they're under attack, their explosions, Smoke is

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Speaker 3: rising from the scene and one source said quote, preliminary

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Speaker 3: estimates indicate that enemy aviation has suffered over two billion

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Speaker 3: dollars in damage. Enemy strategic bombers are burning en mass

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Speaker 3: in Russia. That is a major attack. It is an

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Speaker 3: extraordinary attack. Now, that follows the night before Russia launched

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Speaker 3: four hundred and seventy two drones according to the Ukrainian

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Speaker 3: Air Force. Earlier on Sunday, Ukraine's army set a Russian

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Speaker 3: missile strike killed at least twelve Ukrainian service members and

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Speaker 3: injured sixty. So Russia has been very much it's the aggressor.

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Speaker 3: But this attack taking out major aircraft resources from Russia

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Speaker 3: is a big victory for Ukraine.

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Speaker 4: It is a big, big victory.

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Speaker 1: They are obviously worried individuals, especially in that part of

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Speaker 1: the world, that Russia will then now retalied in some

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Speaker 1: massive way, and then therefore blaming Ukraine saying you should

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Speaker 1: not have done this attack that took them a long

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Speaker 1: time to plan strategically. I want to get your response

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Speaker 1: to that, because there does seem to be quite often

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Speaker 1: that when Ukraine does something, the narrative becomes, well, they're

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Speaker 1: the ones that will bring us to the brink of

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Speaker 1: World War III, because now Russia is going to respond

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Speaker 1: and it's actually their fault that they went over the

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Speaker 1: top on this one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Look, Russia has been the aggressor from the beginning. Ukraine

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Speaker 3: is defending itself. I want to break down how they

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Speaker 3: carry this out because it's actually this is the stuff

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Speaker 3: of spy novels.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: We talked about when Israel struck back against Hezbolah with

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Speaker 3: first the pagers and then with the walkie talkies. That

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Speaker 3: was an extraordinary story. This has similar aspects. It's like

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Speaker 3: something out of Mission Impossible of the born identity and

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Speaker 3: let me read from its historian, Reuters the specific facts.

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Speaker 3: Here's what Reuters reported to attack Russian air bases Ukrainian

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Speaker 3: spies hid drones in wooden sheds. Ukrainian secret services were

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Speaker 3: able to attack strategic bomber aircraft at Russian air bases

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Speaker 3: on Sunday by hiding explosive laden drones inside the roofs

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Speaker 3: of wooden sheds, according to a Ukrainian security official. Ukraine's

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Speaker 3: domestic security agency, the SBU, acknowledged that it carried out

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Speaker 3: the operation code named Spider's Web, and said that it

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Speaker 3: caused considerable damage. The sheds were loaded onto trucks that

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Speaker 3: were driven to the perimeter of the air bases. The

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Speaker 3: roof panels of the sheds were lifted off by a

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Speaker 3: remotely activated mechanism, allowing the drones to fly out and

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Speaker 3: begin their attack, the official set. The security official, who

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Speaker 3: spoken on conditions of anonymity, said the strikes conducted on

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Speaker 3: Sunday were on four air bases and that forty one

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Speaker 3: Russian warplanes were hit. An SBU statement posted on the

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Speaker 3: telegram messaging app estimated the damages caused by the assault

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Speaker 3: at seven billion dollars. And here's a quote. Thirty four

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Speaker 3: percent of strategic cruise missile carriers at the main airfields

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Speaker 3: of the Russian Federation were hit.

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Speaker 4: Wow, that is remarkable.

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Speaker 3: And it is the fact that they could carry it

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Speaker 3: out in wooden sheds, that they could smuggle right next

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Speaker 3: to the Russian airfield. That's a significant tactical and strategic victory.

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Speaker 1: So when you look at this, what is the best

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Speaker 1: case scenario for this attack? Does it make Russia realize

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Speaker 1: A They're vulnerable and B maybe we need to we

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Speaker 1: need to go back to the table because as you

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Speaker 1: heard President Trump say, he said Putin was crazy last week,

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Speaker 1: a crazy man and refusing to actually stop this war.

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Speaker 1: Instead he went on this big attack in Ukraine. Ukraine responds, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Look, I think President Trump is deeply frustrated with Vlatimir Putin.

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Speaker 3: Right now, President Trump wants this war to end. I

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Speaker 3: believe this war will end. It will end this year.

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Speaker 3: And one of the reasons it's going to end is

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Speaker 3: I think the United States Congress is done sending money

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Speaker 3: to Ukraine, that that at this point we have sent

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Speaker 3: over one hundred billion dollars. Enough is enough.

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Speaker 4: This war needs to end.

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Speaker 3: So the blank checkbook that Joe Biden the Democrats gave

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Speaker 3: that blank checkbook is done. Now what I believe is

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Speaker 3: it needs to end in a negotiated settlement, and it

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Speaker 3: should end in a way that is a clear and

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Speaker 3: objectively discernible loss for Russia. Put is our enemy. Russia

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Speaker 3: is our enemy, and we want we want our enemies

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Speaker 3: to be weaker and not stronger. How this ends exactly,

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Speaker 3: it's going to depend on Zelensky and Putin. Zelensky right

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Speaker 3: now doesn't want to negotiate a piece. He's looking to

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Speaker 3: fight and defend his country. I understand that he just

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Speaker 3: doesn't have an entitlement for us to pay for it.

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Speaker 3: Putin Putin right now, Trump believe that if he leaned in,

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Speaker 3: Putin would agree to come to the table and seek

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Speaker 3: terms of peace. At least so far he hasn't. It

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Speaker 3: is possible this devastating strike on Russia will change Russia's calculus.

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Speaker 3: That being said, look, one of the dangerous things about

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Speaker 3: fighting a dictatorship is that Putin can inflict enormous pain

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Speaker 3: and misery on the Russian citizenry and still stay in power.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know how this resolves. I believe it

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Speaker 3: will resolve at the end of the day. But right

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Speaker 3: now Putin and Zelenski both seem like they want to

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Speaker 3: keep fighting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to keep you updated on it that

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