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Speaker 1: The Charlie Kirk Show starts now.

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Speaker 2: I'm Senator Alissa Sockins, Senator Mark Kelly, Representative Chris Deluzio.

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Speaker 3: Congressman Maddie Goodlander, Representative Chrissy Hulahan, Congressman Jason Crowe.

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Speaker 1: Our laws are clear.

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Speaker 4: You can refuse illegal orders.

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Speaker 2: You can refuse illegal orders.

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Speaker 1: You must refuse illegal orders.

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Speaker 5: Let's talk right now.

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Speaker 6: Do you believe President Trump has issued any illegal orders?

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Speaker 2: To my knowledge, I am not aware of things that

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Speaker 2: are illegal, but certainly there are some legal gymnastics that

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Speaker 2: are going on with these Caribbean strikes and everything related

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Speaker 2: to Venezuela.

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Speaker 7: Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth is threatening to court Marshall. Democratic

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Speaker 7: Senator Mark Kelly of Arizona the Pentagon says they've received

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Speaker 7: allegations of misconduct against the retired Navy captain.

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Speaker 8: This appears to all stem from that video that Senator

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Speaker 8: Kelly made with other Democratic lawmakers urging service members to

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Speaker 8: remember that they have a duty to disobey illegal orders,

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Speaker 8: and the Department of Defense, which now calls itself the

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Speaker 8: Department of War. They posted a statement on x saying

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Speaker 8: that they have received serious allegations of misconduct against Captain

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Speaker 8: Mark Kelly. He was a captain when he retired from

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Speaker 8: the US Navy. And they said importantly that a thorough

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Speaker 8: review of these allegations has been initiated to determine further actions,

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Speaker 8: which could include recall to active duty for court martial

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Speaker 8: proceedings or administrative measures.

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Speaker 9: Donald Trump called for my execution. I know a little

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Speaker 9: bit about political violence.

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Speaker 1: My wife Gaby was nearly assassinated.

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Speaker 4: She was shot in the head because of political violence.

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Speaker 1: She nearly died.

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Speaker 9: These are the kind of threats that this president makes,

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Speaker 9: not just to me, some of my colleagues as well.

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Speaker 10: Just this week he did.

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Speaker 1: This, threatened our lives.

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Speaker 10: Said we should be hanged because of something we said.

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Speaker 11: Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth, Yeah, responded to Mark Senator

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Speaker 11: Mark Kelly, because Kelly put up a picture of his

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Speaker 11: naval uniform. And Hegseth is saying, so, Captain Kelly, which

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Speaker 11: you put in quotes for some reason, not only did

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Speaker 11: your sedition video intentionally undercut Gordore and discipline, you can't

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Speaker 11: even display your uniform correctly. Hexeth claimed that the medals

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Speaker 11: and rose or out of order, and he says, I kid,

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Speaker 11: you not the Secretary of Defense says to United States

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Speaker 11: senator and war hero, respond to this picture, he's an astronaut.

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Speaker 10: Quote when if you're recalled to active duty, it'll start.

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Speaker 12: With a uniform inspection.

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Speaker 11: That is what the Secretary of Defense is focused on

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Speaker 11: right now, saying he'll threatened the United States Senator an astronaut,

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Speaker 11: a veteran with a uniform inspection.

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Speaker 13: Addition to potentially sedition.

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Speaker 14: Charges, the military does not have a right to underline on.

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Speaker 15: A second, in this country, you do get to undermine

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Speaker 15: the president of the unit. If you're in the military now,

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Speaker 15: and if you are a member of Congress, you absolutely

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Speaker 15: in this country have in reality right.

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Speaker 4: But they're to undermine the military.

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Speaker 16: Command Fleet Marine Force Pacific, understanding the military justice system.

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Speaker 16: And right there Chapter six legality of orders. Am I

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Speaker 16: required to obey illegal orders?

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Speaker 13: No?

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Speaker 1: You are not.

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Speaker 16: Suppose someone gives me an illegal order, I obey it.

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Speaker 16: Can I use obedience to orders as a valid defense

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Speaker 16: to the charge.

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Speaker 1: No, you cannot.

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Speaker 12: So this idea that these.

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Speaker 16: Democrats in just reminding service members that they don't have

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Speaker 16: to carry out illegal orders, that that.

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Speaker 1: In itself was hideously offensive.

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Speaker 12: I guess people can be offended by whatever they want.

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Speaker 16: But it is not unheard of for service members to

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Speaker 16: be told don't carry out orders that you know are illegal.

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Speaker 17: We are really living in a dystopian reality. I tell you,

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Speaker 17: ladies and gets. It's not great. But I want to

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Speaker 17: what is the positive if there is a silver winding?

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Speaker 17: So what this what this does not mean for Tennessee

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Speaker 17: is that Roots on the Ground will continue to provide

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Speaker 17: training in terms of self managed abortions and so instead

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Speaker 17: of going to a doctor, because we won't have any

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Speaker 17: doctors that provide abortions, how do you do it at home?

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Speaker 17: We will continue to support reproductive justice organizations and grassroots

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Speaker 17: movements and uh yeah, and will continue to figure out

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Speaker 17: how to get abortion pills to people. So the organizing

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Speaker 17: does not stop just because just because Roe is overturned.

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Speaker 17: My therapist always asked me to transcribe my dreams when

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Speaker 17: they happen, and the recurring dream I've had is.

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Speaker 18: Standing up in a cafeteria full of women. I don't

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Speaker 18: know why I was there or whatever, and saying I

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Speaker 18: don't want children, I want power, and just screaming at

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Speaker 18: the top of my lungs. And for someone who grew

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Speaker 18: up with my mother telling me never have kids, because

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Speaker 18: you will. You know, you'll have to give up a lot,

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Speaker 18: You'll have to sacrifice professionally, which is what she's.

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Speaker 19: Saying the Trump.

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Speaker 1: Every day.

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Speaker 5: There's a battle for your mind, raging information coming from

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Speaker 5: every angle, but the will to the sieve, fear not.

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Speaker 19: You found the place for truth, the voice of a.

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Speaker 5: Generation that still has the will to believe in the

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Speaker 5: greatest country in the history of the world.

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Speaker 19: This is the Charlie Kirk Show.

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Speaker 12: Fuck a lot, here we go a lot.

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Speaker 4: All right, Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show, Happy Tuesday.

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Speaker 4: Here in the studio in Phoenix, joined by Blake Neff,

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Speaker 4: one of the producers on this show, Are Not So

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Speaker 4: Secret Weapon. We are going to talk about Ukraine. We're

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Speaker 4: also going to talk about the Seditious six that is

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Speaker 4: the lead today. Then we have Mike Davis joining us

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Speaker 4: at the second half of this hour, and then an

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Speaker 4: hour two we're going to be doing a whole tribute

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Speaker 4: to Thanksgiving, a uniquely American and providential I would say

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Speaker 4: holiday that we are grateful and thankful for. All right,

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Speaker 4: So Blake, take us up to speed. There's been a

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Speaker 4: lot since yesterday's show. About this back and forth between

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Speaker 4: Secretary of War Pete hag Seth and Senator Mark Kelly.

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Speaker 14: So, well, let's just let's start from the baseline. Most

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Speaker 14: of you have seen this, but in case you haven't,

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Speaker 14: this is the video that kicked it all off, that

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Speaker 14: six Democrats put out they released on social media a

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Speaker 14: few days ago.

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Speaker 12: Let's just put up one sixty four.

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Speaker 2: I'm Senator Alissa Soockins, Senator Mark Kelly, Representative Chris S. Deluzio,

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Speaker 10: Our laws are clear.

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Speaker 9: You can refuse illegal orders.

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Speaker 2: You can refuse illegal orders.

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Speaker 1: You must refuse illegal orders.

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Speaker 14: And so and it went on a bit like that,

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Speaker 14: you must refuse illegal order, don't don't give up the

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Speaker 14: don't give up the ship. So, as many poeople pointed out,

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Speaker 14: that's definitely it's not implying anything that's good. The best

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Speaker 14: defense you could make is they're worried Trump might make

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Speaker 14: an illegal order, and they're saying people should defy it.

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Speaker 14: But there's a very strong vibe that they are soliciting,

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Speaker 14: encouraging some element of defiance of the administration's.

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Speaker 4: Slain. Slatkin has even gone on the record saying no,

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Speaker 4: I'm not aware of any illegal orders.

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Speaker 14: So it's basically, well, they have to say that basically

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Speaker 14: otherwise they are actively telling them to defy orders right now.

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Speaker 14: But anyway, Mark Kelly, he is a retired fighter pilot,

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Speaker 14: but he still has I can't remember his exact role

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Speaker 14: with the military, but he has the ability to be recalled.

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Speaker 14: So essentially he is still subject to military discipline in

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Speaker 14: certain ways.

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Speaker 12: Or so the War Department says.

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Speaker 14: And so what we had is, first the Department of

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Speaker 14: War put out an official statement.

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Speaker 12: Let's put up one fifty five.

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Speaker 14: The Department of War has received serious allegations of misconduct

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Speaker 14: against Captain Mark Kelly, US Navy, retired in accordance with

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Speaker 14: the Uniform Code of Military Justice. And there's a whole

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Speaker 14: long thing that they may consider action. And then Secretary

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Speaker 14: of War Pete Hegseth comes out and he has his

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Speaker 12: The despicable video urging Department.

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Speaker 14: Of War troops to refuse I legal orders may seem

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Speaker 14: harmless to physic civilians, but it carries a different weight

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Speaker 12: This was and it's a very long let me let

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Speaker 12: me bring it up here.

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Speaker 14: It's not all on this sheet one moment, but he

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Speaker 14: goes on to basically say that they're going to look

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Speaker 14: into a court martial action for all right, I've got

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Speaker 14: it here, like we continue reading. This was a politically

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Speaker 14: motivated influence operation that never named a specific legal order.

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Speaker 14: It created ambiguity rather than clarity. It used carefully scripted

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Speaker 14: legal sounding language, and it subtly reframed military obedience around

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Speaker 14: partisan distrust instead of established legal doctrines in the military.

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Speaker 14: Vague rhetoric and ambiguity undermine trust, create hesitation in the

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Speaker 14: chain of command, and erode cohesion. The military has clear

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Speaker 14: procedures for handling unlawful orders. It does not need political

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Speaker 14: actors injecting doubt. And so then he goes on in

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Speaker 14: court martial against him. Is that a video or a photo?

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Speaker 14: It looks like it's a video. Let's do one fifty eight.

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Speaker 7: Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth is threatening to court martial. Democratic

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Speaker 7: allegations of misconduct against the retired Navy captain.

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Speaker 8: This appears to all stem from that video that Senator

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Speaker 8: And the Department of Defense, which now calls itself the

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Speaker 8: that they have received serious outc of misconduct against Captain

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Speaker 8: which could include recall to active duty for court martial proceedings,

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Speaker 8: or administrative measures.

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Speaker 14: So definitely if email us what you think about this

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Speaker 14: pretty much Charliekirk dot com, especially because this is Arizona, Senator, Uh,

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Speaker 14: because I guess where do you think you're going to

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Speaker 12: Do you think they'll go for it?

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Speaker 4: Andrew, Well, so I think they've given themselves an out

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Speaker 4: try and you know, shame him into in some way,

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Speaker 4: this section.

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Speaker 12: Do you think we'll stop about I mean.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know, but I will say shame

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Speaker 4: Letitia James.

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Speaker 12: Yeah James.

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Speaker 4: By the way, for those who are curious, the UCMJ

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Speaker 4: the Uniform Code of Military Justice. If you're wondering why

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Speaker 4: it only applies to Mark Kelly, which is a question

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Speaker 4: I had. It governs conduct for active duty member, reservists

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Speaker 4: and certain retirees. It does not apply to fully separated veterans,

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Speaker 4: those who left without retiring after twenty plus years. So

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Speaker 4: presumably he put in his twenty plus years retired in

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Speaker 4: a full military retirement style, and therefore he's still subject.

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Speaker 4: If you take the twenty year plus retirement from the military,

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Speaker 4: apparently you're still subject to the uc MJ. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think he's he's saying that there's still

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Speaker 4: subject to certain administrative measures. I am listen, I find

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Speaker 4: this to be egregious. What they did you and I

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Speaker 4: actually am immediately immediate reaction was it was egregious. And

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Speaker 4: because I've I've been disgusted how all of them have

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Speaker 4: Welcome back to Charliekirkshow we've got a couple of emails here.

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Speaker 12: We got a bunch of good emails in that break.

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Speaker 14: First, I want to shout out Nancy, who just messages

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Speaker 12: Thank you very much, God bless you. Nancy wanted to

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Speaker 14: We got an email from one of our biggest fans,

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Speaker 14: response to Steve, and he says uh. Senator Mark Kelly

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Speaker 14: As a lifelong resident of Arizona, this pathetic excuse of

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Speaker 12: We're working on that. Obviously, We're gonna keep working.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, he's you know what's funny about him

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Speaker 14: Well, Grace says, come on, guys, Charlie would demand we

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Speaker 12: Yes to death penalty. I am calling for the military.

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Speaker 4: Here's Phyllis. Of course they should all be convicted of sedition.

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Speaker 14: We were very angry at that overreach and quite plausibly

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Speaker 9: Donald Trump called for my execution. I know a little

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Speaker 9: bit about political violence. My wife, Gavin was nearly assassinated.

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Speaker 9: She was shot in the head because of political violence.

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Speaker 1: She nearly died.

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Speaker 9: These are the kind of threats that this president makes,

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Speaker 9: not just to me, some of my colleagues as well.

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Speaker 9: Just this week he did this, threatened our lives, said

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Speaker 9: we should be hanged because of something we said.

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Speaker 4: So he's got this trump card, if you will, and

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Speaker 4: it is what happened to his wife is is egregious, terrible.

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Speaker 4: I mean, especially in the way of what happened to Charlie.

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Speaker 1: I get it.

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Speaker 4: So you just have to be careful about the battle

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Speaker 4: you're gonna fight.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 4: That's why I say listen, he's gonna get investigated. The

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Speaker 4: White House is saying that they support it. You cannot

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Speaker 20: The Justice Department is promising an immediate appeal of a

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Speaker 10: US District Judge.

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Speaker 20: Cameron McGowan Curry ruled that the charges against the tuoh

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Speaker 20: You just saw Goble there. It's from Michigan's Corson's Tree Farm.

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Speaker 4: the show. I gotta just say we're you know, we're

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Speaker 4: talking about the seditious six. So let's start there. Give

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Speaker 4: you want to go full full court martial proceedings after

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Speaker 4: Mark Kelly?

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Speaker 13: Are you?

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Speaker 4: Are you advising a more reserve you squish like me?

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Speaker 4: Is Blake is saying, let's not make him a victim,

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Speaker 4: let's not make him a future presidential candidate here if

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Speaker 4: that's possible.

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Speaker 10: What Senator Mark Kelly is doing here? By wink wink,

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Speaker 10: nod nod to eighteen year old military enlistes to decide

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Speaker 10: what orders of the President of the United States, the

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Speaker 10: ignore what these eighteen year old en listies think are

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Speaker 10: in unlawful orders of the President of the United States.

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Speaker 10: You cannot get more dangerous than this that is interfering

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Speaker 10: with the chain of commands. Mark Kelly is trying to

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Speaker 10: portray himself as some noble hero. He's trying to portray

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Speaker 10: himself as some victim when he got called out on it.

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Speaker 10: He should absolutely get court martialed and held accountable for this.

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Speaker 10: And he can raise his congressional speech speech or debate

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Speaker 10: clause arguments for his defense, whatever he needs to do.

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Speaker 10: But they need to make an example out of this guy.

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Speaker 10: There's no chance this guy is going to be the

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Speaker 10: president of the United States. He's a clown and he's

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Speaker 10: really he's really hurt his credibility by doing this far

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Speaker 10: outside of the political circles. He's hitting real Americans in

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Speaker 10: real America, on political people who think it's appalling that

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Speaker 10: you have members of Congress calling on the military, calling

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Speaker 4: You know, I tend to fall on your end of this, Mike.

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Speaker 4: I think that you know, I think this was a

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Speaker 4: self owned by them. I think they got way out

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Speaker 4: over their skis. This was unsolicited. By the way, this

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Speaker 4: makes me argument the boat attacks.

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Speaker 14: I mean, there's always one thing or another they could

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Speaker 14: fixate on. It just stands out to me what a

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Speaker 14: dangerous escalation is. Even though I'm the squished on how

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Speaker 14: hard you prosecute it, we should not lowball how bad

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Speaker 14: and how they are egging on a destructive thing. And

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Speaker 14: one reason I am wary of prosecuting him is I'm thinking,

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Speaker 14: if they actually induce members of the military to try

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Speaker 14: to defend against what would basically be a coupdeta.

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Speaker 10: I love the Fox News. I learned a Fox News

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Speaker 10: piece on this, Andrew, and I point this out. If

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Speaker 10: States on the emergency docket, and they are getting the

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Speaker 10: smartest lawyers and judges at the lower court level reversed

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Speaker 10: by the Supreme Court with like a ninety one or

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Speaker 10: ninety two percent reversal rate. If these very smart Harvard

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Speaker 10: has to fix this ninety two for some of the time,

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Speaker 10: how the hell do we expect eighteen year old military

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Speaker 4: At what point?

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Speaker 10: I mean we have to have if you are in

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Speaker 10: military officer who ordered the mass murder of the Vietnamese

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Speaker 10: commander level where you would say, I can't do this

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Speaker 10: because this is clearly a war crime. This is you're

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Speaker 10: That's very clear. When you're dealing with the president of

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Speaker 10: the United States, you better follow every order of the

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Speaker 10: President of the United States unless you are goddamn sure

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Speaker 10: it is wrong. For example, when President Trump ordered the

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Speaker 10: strike on the Iranian nuclear facility, are you going to

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Speaker 10: have some military officer or military unist He's saying, sorry,

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Speaker 10: I can't do this strike. I'm going to expose this

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Speaker 10: ongoing military operation because I don't think President Trump has

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Speaker 10: This is a very dangerous game these politicians are playing,

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Speaker 10: and Mark Kelly not only should be ashamed, if he's

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Speaker 10: capable of shame, he should be held accountable for this.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 4: You know what, this reminds me of Mike as well

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Speaker 4: and Blake. It kind of reminds me of what Vinman

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Speaker 4: did to Trump. Right. It was it was basically this

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Speaker 4: guess what he was abusing his power with holding military

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Speaker 4: It undermines the entire UH term in so many ways.

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Speaker 4: It does. It's it's such a slippery slope because if

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Speaker 4: illegal when you when he has given broad authority to

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Speaker 4: start pulling away all authority from the executive branch to

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Speaker 4: third worlding of the American military where they would lead

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Speaker 10: Let me ask you this. Let me these democrats who

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Speaker 10: pretend like they care about President Trump using the military,

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Speaker 10: which what they think is unlawfully. President Obama ordered an

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Speaker 10: extra judicial drone strike on two Americans, on several American citizens,

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Speaker 10: including a minor. I fully supported that drone strike of Obama,

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Speaker 10: but there is doubt whether that was legal or not.

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Speaker 10: You have David Barron, who's now a judge on the

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Speaker 10: of Legal Counsel in the Justice Department at the time.

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Speaker 10: OLC is the one that decides whether executive branch actions

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Speaker 10: are lawful or unlawful. Within the executive branch, of course,

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Speaker 10: judges ultimately decide, But it was Judge David Baron who

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Speaker 10: told President Obama that he had the lawful authority to

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Speaker 10: extra judicial killings. Was that legal? Was that illegal? That's

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Speaker 10: up for debate. But you certainly don't want these drone officers,

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Speaker 10: these drone operators in the military to say, you know,

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Speaker 10: I just can't do this. I just I don't think

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Speaker 10: that President Obama was being lawful here, so I can't

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Speaker 10: do this. Those people would be court martialed, they would

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Speaker 10: be thrown in the brig and that's exactly what should

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Speaker 10: happen to Senator Mark Kelly for pushing this very dangerous

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Speaker 10: game that they're playing because they don't like Trump.

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Speaker 12: Into the brig.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean it's hard to run for president.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean we were talking about if Trump would

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Speaker 4: I remember that. Listen, Mike. I tend to agree. I

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Speaker 4: I'm very sympathetic to your argument. I do think that,

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Speaker 4: and I think it's a pretty egregious crime. I'm open

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Speaker 4: create a victim out of this guy. But you know,

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Speaker 4: at the same time, I just like I am in

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Speaker 4: because this is a slippery slope. This is the Third

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Speaker 4: worlding of the US military. I want to change our

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Speaker 4: attention here to the news that broke yesterday that James

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Speaker 4: Comey and Letitia James that a judge had thrown out

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Speaker 4: the case basically based on procedural issues, with Lindsay Halligan

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Speaker 4: That now I'll play this clip. This is a G

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Speaker 4: Pam BONDI saying, you know, we're gonna appeal this right away.

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Speaker 4: One ninety.

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Speaker 3: Sure, We'll be taking all available legal action, including an

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Speaker 3: immediate appeal, to hold Letitia James and James Comey accountable

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Speaker 3: for their unlawful conduct. I'm going to keep going on this.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm not worried about someone who has been

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Speaker 4: And James Comy's already taken a victory lap. Maybe should

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Speaker 4: pumped the brakes, as Caroline Levitt says, but one ninety five,

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Speaker 4: and this is James Comy.

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Speaker 21: The message has to be sent that the President of

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Speaker 21: the United States cannot use the Department of Justice to

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Speaker 21: target his political enemies. I don't care what your politics are.

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Speaker 21: You have to see that as fundamentally Unamerican and a

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Speaker 21: threat to the rule of law that keeps all of

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Speaker 21: us free. I know that Donald Trump will probably come

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Speaker 21: after me again, and my attitude is going to be

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Speaker 21: the same. I'm innocent, I am not afraid, and I

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Speaker 21: believe in an independent federal judiciary, the gift from our

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Speaker 21: founders that protects us from a would be tyrant.

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Speaker 4: Would be tired.

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Speaker 1: It is.

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Speaker 12: They can't stop acting like they're in a movie.

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Speaker 4: It's this virtue signaling holier than that, Mike Davis.

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Speaker 10: It's worse that James Comy got charged with lying to

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Speaker 10: Congress and obstruction of a congressional investigation for the very

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Speaker 10: thing he's complaining about. He politicized and weaponized intel agencies

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Speaker 10: and law enforcement with the Russian collusion hoax with Crossfire

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Speaker 10: Hurricane to take out President Trump, his political enemy. He

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Speaker 10: got caught lying about it. The prior interim US attorney

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Speaker 10: was a giant whimp and didn't bring charge the same

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Speaker 10: with Letitia James with their mortgage fraud, and so Lindsay

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Speaker 10: Halligan went in there, found the evidence, took it to

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Speaker 10: a grand jury, a Democrat controlled grand jury in Alexandria,

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Speaker 10: Virginia outside of Washington, DC, and even this Democrat grand

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Speaker 10: jury found probable cause on both James Commey for lying

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Speaker 10: to Congress and an obstruction of a congressional investigation, and

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Speaker 10: against Big Tiss James, the New York Attorney General who

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Speaker 10: lied about having a second home in Virginia to get

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Speaker 10: The grand jury returned these indictments. Then you had this Democrats.

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Speaker 10: Obama chief judge of the Fourth Circuit picked a Clinton

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Speaker 10: judge in South Carolina to come in and to dismiss

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Speaker 10: these indictments, and they dismissed these indictments on the incorrect

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Speaker 10: legal grounds. They essentially argue that the courts, after one

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Speaker 10: hundred and twenty days, the courts, instead of the President

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Speaker 10: of the United States or his Attorney general, get to

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Speaker 10: decide who the chief law enforcement officer is the US

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Speaker 10: attorney in these districts. That is an incorrect reading of

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Speaker 10: the statute. It's a dangerous reading of the statute because

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Speaker 10: you don't have accountability. You don't have prosecutors who are

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Speaker 10: accountable to the American people through their duly elected president

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Speaker 10: of the United States. You have prosecutors who are picked

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Speaker 10: or New Jersey to protect their political allies and go

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Speaker 10: after their political friends. The Supreme Court will fix this,

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Speaker 10: and in the meantime, the Attorney General has many different

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Speaker 10: tools to bring accountability for both Big Tish and James Comey,

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Speaker 10: including indictments in the Southern District of Florida.

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Speaker 4: Well said Mike Davis. More, We're gonna talk Ai in

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Speaker 4: the next segment with Mike Davis. Big moves happening on

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Speaker 4: that front. First, I want to tell you about TikTok.

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Speaker 4: TikTok is a place where powerful dialogues and conversations and

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Speaker 4: communities can happen. Charlie, believe that billions and billions of

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Speaker 4: views on that platform, lots of young people came to

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Speaker 4: appreciate this country, our freedoms, our God given freedoms on

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Speaker 4: that platform. I was shocked, but I've seen it firsthand.

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Speaker 4: Trust me. You'll see a teacher simplifying a tough lesson

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Speaker 4: so it finally clicks, or gardener sharing a trick that's

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Speaker 4: saved their crop. But what matters most isn't the video

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Speaker 4: it's not the original post of what comes what comes next,

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Speaker 4: the conversation, the back and forth. That's what listening does.

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Speaker 4: It reminds us that we're not as different as we

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Speaker 4: maybe think we are. That's what makes TikTok so so powerful.

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Speaker 4: Our friends at TikTok support this show. Thank you to them.

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Speaker 4: We'll be right back.

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Speaker 19: Letting everyone socialism sucks. The Charley Kirk Show.

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Speaker 4: All right, there is a clip here. It is Thanksgiving

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Speaker 4: week and I was gonna do this next hour. I

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Speaker 4: might do it next hour anyways, but there is a

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Speaker 4: clip that Charlie always used to play about Rush Limbaugh

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Speaker 4: and Thanksgiving and oh, I don't have enough time. Never mind,

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Speaker 4: it's an out. It's a minute and thirty three seconds.

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Speaker 12: Should we just do it at the end of tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: We'll do We'll do it today tomorrow. It's so good.

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Speaker 4: It's an amazing Rush. Rush loves Thanksgiving. He loved the country,

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Speaker 4: and Charlie loved Rush, and he loved the way that

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Speaker 4: he would talk about it. But I do want to

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Speaker 4: get to it hour two. We're going to be doing

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Speaker 4: a whole whole thing on Thanksgiving, so we'll get to

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Speaker 4: it then. Mike Davis Article three project tell us your court,

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Speaker 4: and it's how do people follow you and track you

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Speaker 4: and support the work you're doing. It might be muted, Mike,

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Speaker 4: we're muted.

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Speaker 10: I don't know what's happening there.

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Speaker 4: You go, got twenty seconds?

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Speaker 10: Are we are we good? Article three Project dot or

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Speaker 10: Article number three project dot org. Follow us on social media.

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Speaker 10: Donate what you can afford, but take action. That's the

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Speaker 10: most powerful thing your audience can do is action, action, action,

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Speaker 10: and thank you guys.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, we're gonna be talking one of your initiatives

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Speaker 4: on AI. I have a lot of questions. Mike. We

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Speaker 4: welcome back national radio. In about five seconds, we'll be

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Speaker 4: right back. All right, Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk

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Speaker 4: Show radio stations across the country. We are joined by

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Speaker 4: Mike Davis. Okay, so Article three Project Mike Davis. There

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Speaker 4: is a back and forth going on. I mean it's

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Speaker 4: first flared up during the one Big Beautiful Bill about

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Speaker 4: this moratorium on states putting any putting forth any regulation.

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Speaker 4: So at that time we brought in Stephen Miller. Steven

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Speaker 4: and Charlie had a big conversation about it ended up

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Speaker 4: going viral, and it was about this idea of cant

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Speaker 4: states like California or New York issue regulations when it

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Speaker 4: comes to AI, and basically was saying we don't want

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Speaker 4: them to do that. We don't want the woke states,

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Speaker 4: the Democrat led states, to be leading the charge on this.

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Speaker 4: You disagree with this position. Now lawmakers are once again

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Speaker 4: trying to stuff it into the NDAA. I believe, so, Mike,

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Speaker 4: give us your perspective on it. I'm all ears.

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Speaker 10: No, I don't necessarily disagree with Steven Miller on the

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Speaker 10: need for a federal standard for AI. I guess it's

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Speaker 10: the tech companies are the only companies in America who

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Speaker 10: think they need federal preemption. But I'm not necessarily opposed

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Speaker 10: to federal preemption. They're not asking for federal preemption with

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Speaker 10: federal rules of the road. They're asking for AI amnesty

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Speaker 10: like they did with Section two thirty back in nineteen

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Speaker 10: ninety six, where these small tech platforms had Section two

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Speaker 10: thirty amnesty and then anti trust amnesty, and then we

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Speaker 10: got Google, Amazon, Facebook, and Apple that crush competition, shutter

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Speaker 10: We can't repeat the mistakes of section two thirty with AI,

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Speaker 10: and so I understand that we need to be competitive

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Speaker 10: other adversaries, but we also need federal rules of the road.

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Speaker 10: If we're going to have federal preemption so state and

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Speaker 10: local governments cannot touch AI for example, I call this

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Speaker 10: the four c's. Are we going to have protections for

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Speaker 10: children from online abuse? Are we going to have protections

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Speaker 10: for conservatives so we don't get canceled by these AI platforms.

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Speaker 10: Are we going to have protections for communities so we

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Speaker 10: working class have to foot the bill for these AI

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Speaker 10: data centers that can do them all this water and electricity.

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Speaker 10: Are we going to have zoning protections in communities so

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Speaker 10: These big tech oligarchs, the AI bros, say no, that

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Speaker 10: they should have full amnesty from state and local and

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Speaker 10: on section two thirty. And my response to that is

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Speaker 10: hell no. Why would we let Meta for example, and

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Speaker 10: Google for example, who hate us as conservatives, run us

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Speaker 10: over and make trillions of dollars on the backs of conservatives, children,

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Speaker 10: content creators, and communities. If you're not going to protect

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Speaker 10: the four c's. They don't have sixty votes to get

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Speaker 10: this done. They thought they had sixty votes four months ago,

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Speaker 10: at the end of June, at the beginning of July,

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Speaker 10: they thought this thing was going to pass and must

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Speaker 10: pass legislation. And then the Article three project kicked into

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Speaker 10: I would I'll tell the AI pros the same thing.

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Speaker 10: If you try to do this again, we'll kick your

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Speaker 10: butts again. And if you need, if you're gonna get

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Speaker 10: sixty votes, you're gonna protect the four seats.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a Trump truth Social one sixty nine.

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Speaker 4: He says, you know, investment in AI is helping to

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Speaker 4: make the US economy the hottest in the world. This

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Speaker 4: is image one to sixty nine. Thanks guys, But over

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Speaker 4: regulation by the states is threatening to undermine this growth.

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Speaker 4: Some states are even trying to embed DEI ideology into

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Speaker 4: AI models producing wo AI. Remember Black George Washington, we

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Speaker 4: must have one federal standard instead of a patchwork of

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Speaker 4: fifty state regulatory regimes. So I actually, by the way,

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Speaker 4: in the final line there, Mikey says, we can do

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Speaker 4: this in a way that protects children and prevents censorship.

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Speaker 4: So is the middle ground here spearheading a federal effort

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Speaker 4: to make sure that we have AI a regulatory regime

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Speaker 4: at the federal level so we don't have this patchwork.

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Speaker 4: It sounds like you're open minded to that.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, and I'm and I'm working with the President and

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Speaker 10: the Vice President and their teams on that right now.

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Speaker 10: But they're going to protect children, conservatives, communities, and creators

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Speaker 10: or they're not going to get this done. It's very

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Speaker 10: easy to go on conservative media and get people to

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Speaker 10: House rep and then all of a sudden, this AI

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Speaker 10: through at four o'clock in the morning goes down ninety

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Speaker 10: nine to one. So if they want to play this

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Speaker 4: So I'm convinced. I'm convinced, Mike. I think you're right.

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Speaker 4: I think there's I think there's some money involved in

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Speaker 4: some of this push to keep getting this bill that

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Speaker 4: went down in flames back into the NDAA. I think

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Speaker 4: you're right. I think we need to scrap it. I

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Speaker 4: think we need to get it into federal federal level.

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Speaker 4: I think that's the key here. I think, because we

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Speaker 4: can't do as.

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Speaker 14: He says, you know, if it's content creators, get your

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Speaker 14: pound of flesh out of it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, Mike Davis Article three project. Thank you man,

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Speaker 4: We appreciate.

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Speaker 10: Thank you guys.

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Speaker 4: We'll see you soon. Hour two coming up, all on

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Speaker 4: the American holiday of Thanksgiving. We'll be right back.

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Speaker 20: Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break.

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Speaker 10: I'm Terrence Bads.

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Speaker 20: Let's get a check of what real Americans are talking

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Speaker 20: about leading up to Thursday's big Thanksgiving holiday ravs. David

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Speaker 20: Zeer is at the beth Page Embassy Diner there on

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Speaker 20: Long Island, New York. David, Good, afternoon, to see you've

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Speaker 20: got a guest with you. Happy Thanksgiving, even though it's

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Speaker 20: a couple of days early.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, Happy Thanksgiving, Terrence, And we're at the iconic beth

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Speaker 22: Page Embassy Dining. Our diners are an institution here in

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Speaker 22: New York area and Long Island especially, and we're a

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Speaker 22: beth Page where Grumman was and they helped win World

898
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Speaker 22: War Two with the Hellcat and their TBF Avenger, the

899
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Speaker 22: Cold War with the F fourteen Tomcat and the E two.

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Speaker 22: Very rich history here, hard working people on Somebody I

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Speaker 22: know Mike Walsh.

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Speaker 23: He's a realtor here. He's also a horse owner and

903
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Speaker 23: you raise horses.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 23: Great to see you, happy Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 24: Too, great to see you. Thanks for talking to me.

907
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Speaker 22: Yeah, yeah, Well I want to talk to you because

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Speaker 22: I heard that you're a conservative and your wife's a liberal.

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Speaker 23: How's the Thanksgiving dinner table going?

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Speaker 13: Well?

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Speaker 25: As fighting before appetizers and then is more arguing after

912
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Speaker 25: the meal and we barely make it the dessert together, and.

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Speaker 23: Then everybody gives a hug when they leave though, right.

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Speaker 24: Yeah from it?

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Speaker 26: Okay.

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Speaker 22: So I have an uncle who lived in a tree

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Speaker 22: in California for a couple of years, you know, very

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Speaker 22: very liberal, and another one who was very liberal who

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Speaker 22: became a conservative.

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Speaker 23: Is anybody coming around.

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 25: I was never into the politics until Trump won his

923
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Speaker 25: first go around, and they saw how nasty.

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Speaker 24: To media treated him.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, So in twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 25: Twenty sixteen, I watched the news conference that he did,

927
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Speaker 25: and the anchor came back and summarized everything that Trump

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Speaker 25: didn't say.

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Speaker 24: So from that point on, you.

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Speaker 23: So you're a realtor, I'm a commercial broker. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 23: thirty seven years.

932
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Speaker 22: We saw better times in twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen than

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Speaker 22: pre COVID.

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Speaker 10: Right.

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Speaker 25: Oh yeah, well when he got into office, that was

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Speaker 25: our best year ever.

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Speaker 24: At the time, and it's been wonderful since.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 22: So, okay, second term big issue home ownership. You've got

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Speaker 22: kids in their twenties and thirties.

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Speaker 23: How is the market for first time home buyers on

942
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Speaker 23: Longoland or is there even one?

943
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Speaker 25: You have to have good jobs, good w two's, good credit,

944
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Speaker 25: and it's there.

945
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Speaker 24: We don't have a lot of inventory right now.

946
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Speaker 22: So nobody wants to get rid of a house they

947
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Speaker 22: have a three percent mortgage on, right, because they're locked

948
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Speaker 22: in forever now, right.

949
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Speaker 25: Nobody wants to sell their home now and get another

950
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Speaker 25: deal at six or seven percent doesn't make sense, so

951
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Speaker 25: they just add on their own houses.

952
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Speaker 24: So we don't have a lot of inventory.

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Speaker 23: Okay, Terrence, we're right outside of New York City.

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Speaker 22: Here the border is only about eight miles away to

955
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Speaker 22: Queen's and we're expecting maybe a mom donnie migration out

956
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Speaker 22: of New York City to Florida and other states.

957
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Speaker 23: But even Long Island, have you seen any activity yet.

958
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Speaker 25: We're bracing for to be busy here, but the other

959
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Speaker 25: states south of us, they're going to be very busy. Yeah,

960
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Speaker 25: people are going to make a probably a mass exodus.

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Speaker 25: I hopefully that doesn't happen, but it doesn't look promising

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Speaker 25: for the city folks.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, and how are your kids' views on everything?

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Speaker 6: You know?

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Speaker 23: They are they saddled with student loan debt? What kind

966
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Speaker 23: of things are they dealing with?

967
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Speaker 22: And then I want to ask you, what are you

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Speaker 22: grateful for on Thanksgiving?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 24: Grateful for gus at the Embassy Dinah.

971
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Speaker 23: Great place, a wonderful place. The atmosphere is unbelievable.

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Speaker 25: Yes, the kids and fine one of them got a

973
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Speaker 25: house right before the rates went crazy. But you know,

974
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Speaker 25: everybody's healthy and happy.

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Speaker 24: That's the main thing.

976
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Speaker 25: And I'm grateful just to have my health right now.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, Terrence, wonderful, hard working middle class people of Long

978
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Speaker 22: Island make America great and real American voices here.

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Speaker 20: Absolutely wish him a happy Thanksgiving for me and we

980
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:28,479
Speaker 20: appreciate both of you guys. Great segment there, David Zierra

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Speaker 20: reporting for us again from the diner there on Long Island.

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Speaker 10: New York.

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Speaker 20: We definitely appreciated, by the way, folks. In case you

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Speaker 20: happened to miss it just a little while ago, President

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Speaker 20: Trump pardon not just one but two turkeys. That, of

986
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Speaker 20: course is one of the traditions that happens at the

987
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Speaker 20: White House. In fact, let's see if we can't show

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00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 20: you some video of that pardoning happening. You're looking at Gobble,

989
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Speaker 20: that is one of the turkeys. The other turkey was

990
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Speaker 20: called Wobble. Wobble was not on site, but Gobble was

991
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Speaker 20: on site for this traditional pardoning. You can see the

992
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Speaker 20: President lay it all out here as he pardoned the turkey.

993
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Speaker 20: And he'll leave the White House later on this evening.

994
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Speaker 20: He and the First Lady will head down to Morrow

995
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Speaker 20: Lago where they will be spending this holiday weekend. That's

996
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Speaker 20: going to do it for us here on Real America's

997
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Speaker 20: Voice and on this newsbreaker from Chicken.

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Speaker 4: All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. My

999
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,919
Speaker 4: name is Andrew Colvit, executive producer of this fine show,

1000
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 4: joined by Blake Nef And we have two guests this hour,

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Speaker 4: for the whole hour. One of them is Charlie's dear,

1002
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 4: dear friend, and I haven't seen him for too long now. Bellfederer,

1003
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Speaker 4: author and speaker. You can find him at americanminute dot com.

1004
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Speaker 4: And doctor Jerry Newcomb, executive director of Providence Forum. You

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00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 4: can find him at Providenceforum dot org. Gentlemen, Welcome to

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00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:59,439
Speaker 4: the Charlie Kirkshow so good to have you both.

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Speaker 1: Hey, great to be with you.

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Speaker 13: Thank you so much for the opportunity. Is wonderful.

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Speaker 4: Well, this is a so I wanted to do this.

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Speaker 4: I think we booked this like a month ago because

1011
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Speaker 4: I saw it coming down the pike here, and I

1012
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Speaker 4: wanted to do this because Charlie's I mean, it was

1013
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 4: like July fourth might have had it beat as far

1014
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 4: as Charlie's favorite holidays, but it was July fourth. He

1015
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Speaker 4: loved New Year's, he loved Thanksgiving, and he loved Thanksgiving

1016
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Speaker 4: because it is just such a uniquely American holiday. It

1017
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 4: is it's providential. It tells the story of our people

1018
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 4: and of our heritage, of the spirit that is imbued

1019
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 4: in us as Americans.

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Speaker 12: And he liked it because.

1021
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 14: It's giving thanks to God, which he always wanted us

1022
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 14: to do. He always did whenever anything could happen in

1023
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Speaker 14: his life.

1024
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Speaker 1: GLORI we to God. God.

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Speaker 4: What Yeah. And you can actually see this in a

1026
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 4: in a tweet that he had just after we won

1027
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Speaker 4: the election. You show this up two o eight he

1028
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 4: posted this November for he said, Happy Thanksgiving from our

1029
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 4: family to yours. We are thankful for the gift of salvation,

1030
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 4: our amazing children, in God's mercy on our great country

1031
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 4: this year. Take a moment today to be grateful that

1032
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 4: we did it by God's grace alone. We took our

1033
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 4: country back Psalm one to eighteen, verse one. So Bill,

1034
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Speaker 4: let's start with you. I'm in Charlie's honor. I am

1035
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Speaker 4: all about evangelizing the love of this holiday and the

1036
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 4: uniqueness to the American spirit it represents. Tell us what

1037
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 4: makes Thanksgiving unique and so special?

1038
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Speaker 6: Well, that America is an experiment of people ruling ourselves.

1039
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Speaker 6: So one of the things I did was go back

1040
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 6: and research every single century of recorded human history to

1041
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 6: try to find out what the most common form of

1042
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 6: government is. And it's gangs, and a gang leader with

1043
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 6: enough weapons we call a king or a federal or

1044
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:57,240
Speaker 6: a caesar, kaiser sultans are and these kingdoms keep getting

1045
00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 6: bigger because with the latest military advancement, kings can kill

1046
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Speaker 6: more people. So finally, the King of England had the

1047
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Speaker 6: biggest empire on planet Earth. The sun never set on

1048
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Speaker 6: the British Empire. He was a globalist, he was a

1049
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Speaker 6: one world government guy. And America faunters broke way and

1050
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Speaker 6: flipped it and made up people the king right, it's

1051
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Speaker 6: a polarity change and the flow of powered.

1052
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Speaker 1: But we zoom in on the Pilgrims.

1053
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Speaker 6: Why well, they were the ones that had the Mayflower Compact,

1054
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Speaker 6: this idea of people ruling themselves. So at the time

1055
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Speaker 6: the Pilgrims were founding America, you had Chinese emperors, Japanese emperors,

1056
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Speaker 6: Korean emperors, Indian maharaja Raja means king, Maha means great,

1057
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Speaker 6: Russian czars, Mongolian Khans, African chieftains, kings of Spain, France.

1058
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Speaker 1: And the whole world's basically kings.

1059
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Speaker 6: And here you have these little Christians starting their own community.

1060
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Speaker 6: So one overlooked thing is they got their idea from

1061
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Speaker 6: ancient Israel that first four hundred years out of Egypt

1062
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Speaker 6: before they got a king.

1063
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Speaker 1: So around fourteen hundred BC you.

1064
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Speaker 6: Have the Israelites, millions of them come out of Egypt

1065
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Speaker 6: and for fourth centuries no king, to total anomaly in

1066
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Speaker 6: world history that we don't appreciate it, but when when

1067
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Speaker 6: you study it, it worked because everybody's taught the law

1068
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Speaker 6: and everybody's personally accountable to God to follow it. It

1069
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Speaker 6: worked for four centuries until the priests went woke. By priests,

1070
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Speaker 6: they stopped.

1071
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Speaker 1: Teaching the law, and every month and you got Eli.

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Speaker 6: The high priest's own sons are sleeping with women in

1073
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Speaker 6: the very tent where the ark of the Covenant is

1074
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Speaker 6: in this line.

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Speaker 1: Every man does what's right in their own eyes.

1076
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Speaker 6: Why couse a priest stop teaching was right in the

1077
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Speaker 6: lord's eyes turns into chaos. They asked for a king

1078
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Speaker 6: and they get King Saul. Why is this story important?

1079
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Speaker 6: The kings of Europe looked to the Bible for their authority,

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Speaker 6: but they look to the King Saul, and after and

1081
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Speaker 6: the Pilgrims and Puritans it founded New England looked to

1082
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Speaker 6: the pre King Saul part of the Bible. Both of

1083
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Speaker 6: them are looking at the Bible. One's King Saul and

1084
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Speaker 6: after and the ones before. So that's why they taught

1085
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Speaker 6: Hebrew at Yale and Harvard.

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Speaker 1: And so this.

1087
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Speaker 6: Little congregation they were going to go to Jamestown submit

1088
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Speaker 6: to the King's government. They got blown off course land

1089
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Speaker 6: on the shores of Massachusetts, and the captain says, get

1090
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Speaker 6: off the boat, and they go who's going to be

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Speaker 6: in charge? There's no king appointed person in our little

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Speaker 6: group one hundred and two of us. Nobody's been picked

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Speaker 6: by the king. They do something unique. They take their

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Speaker 6: life covenant church, former government and they make it their

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Speaker 6: civil governments, called the Mayflower Compact. We and need presidents

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Speaker 6: of God covenant ourselves together into a civil body politic.

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Speaker 6: That was the model. And then then the next decade

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Speaker 6: you have what's called the Great Puritan Migration. Twenty thousand

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Speaker 6: Puritans fled into New England, and you have pastors and

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Speaker 6: churches founding cities. So Pastor of Roger Williams and the

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Speaker 6: first Baptist Church founds the city of Providence, Rhoe Island,

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Speaker 6: Reverend Thomas Hooker, and the first Congregational church founds the

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Speaker 6: city of Hartford, Connecticut. This is unique on planet Earth

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Speaker 6: when the whole world's ruled by kings and you got

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Speaker 6: pastors and churches founding cities and anyway.

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Speaker 1: So that's why we look at the Pilgrims. And the

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Speaker 1: word federal is Latin for covenant.

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Speaker 6: We have a covenant former government in America that can

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Speaker 6: be traced back to these Pilgrims.

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Speaker 4: I love that. And doctor Jerry Newcombe, you know, you

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Speaker 4: run the Providence Forum and your your whole mission is

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Speaker 4: to bring back to jay of Christian values to the

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Speaker 4: United States, make much of them. And you have a

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Speaker 4: place here, you know it's you say an article here

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Speaker 4: on your website America's First Thanksgiving. You're talking about this

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Speaker 4: First Thanksgiving the bill just alluded to, and you say

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Speaker 4: that it's an annual reminder of our nations Christians roots

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Speaker 4: and our godly heritage. I do believe this nation is

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Speaker 4: providentially founded. When you look to the First Thanksgiving, you

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Speaker 4: look to the story that's uniquely American. What stands out

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Speaker 4: to you that you want to call attention to for

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Speaker 4: the twenty twenty five that are modern Americans.

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Speaker 27: Well, how much suffering the Pilgrims endured just for the

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Speaker 27: sake of the goal to be able to worship Jesus

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Speaker 27: Christ and the purity of the conscience and be left alone.

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Speaker 27: When they started in England, it was a small little church.

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Speaker 27: The Pilgrims were basically one particular congregation that managed to

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Speaker 27: when they began in a place in the Midlands in England,

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Speaker 27: about one hundred and fifty miles north of London, it

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Speaker 27: was all secret, it was illegal, and so eventually they decided, hey,

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Speaker 27: we could be tolerated at least in Holland, so they

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Speaker 27: were able to migrate that even there that wasn't an

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Speaker 27: easy thing to do, and then eventually about ten years later,

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Speaker 27: they were able to come to.

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Speaker 13: The New World.

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Speaker 27: But through it all they were suffering, and in fact,

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Speaker 27: in the book called a Plymouth Plantation, which their main leader,

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Speaker 27: Governor William Bradford, wrote, he said, at the very beginning,

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Speaker 27: it is well known unto the godly, However, since the

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Speaker 27: first breaking out of the light of the Gospel in

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Speaker 27: our honorable nation of England, Satan has raised, maintained and

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Speaker 27: continued wars and oppositions against the Saints. And so they

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Speaker 27: suffered one hindrance and persecution after another. But they went

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Speaker 27: forward with their goal and when they finally got to

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Speaker 27: the New World and they wrote the Mayflower Compact that

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Speaker 27: Bill Federer was talking about, which was the first.

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Speaker 13: Beginning of what would become the.

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Speaker 27: And constitutional process, you know, the one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 27: years later, the Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution

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Speaker 27: would flow out of the same ideas of self rule

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Speaker 27: under God that were written down there right in the

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Speaker 27: cabin of the Mayflower.

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Speaker 13: I mean, this is amazing stuff.

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Speaker 27: But they said, we came, you know, for the glory

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Speaker 27: of God and the advancement of the Christian faith. And

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Speaker 27: so when they finally were here, despite one hindrance and

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Speaker 27: one setback after another, including the fact that half their

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Speaker 27: number died that first winter when the harvest came in

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Speaker 27: sixteen twenty one, they set aside time to give thanks

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Speaker 27: to God in all circumstances. And later on when they

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Speaker 27: would celebrate Thanksgiving, because they had gone through this period

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Speaker 27: of starvation where the daily ration for each person would

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Speaker 27: only be about five kernels of corn, they would sometimes

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Speaker 27: take their thanksgiving plate this is a later times of prosperity,

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Speaker 27: and they would put five little colonels of corn on

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Speaker 27: the plate to remind them of what they had endured

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Speaker 27: during that time of starvation, where again half their number died,

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Speaker 27: but they gave thanks that He allowed them to flourish.

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Speaker 27: So Thanksgiving is such a great reminder of our Christian roots.

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Speaker 13: And a lot of people want to.

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Speaker 27: Say, well, you know, okay, we can understand the settlers,

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Speaker 27: like the Pilgrims and the Puritans, they were Christians, but

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Speaker 27: by the time you get to the Founding Fathers, they weren't.

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Speaker 27: They were, you know, basically unbelievers. And that's just not true.

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Speaker 27: And anybody who takes Bill Feederer's book America's Godden Country,

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Speaker 27: and you look at these quotes from the Founding fathers

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Speaker 27: as well as the settlers, including you know, George Washington

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Speaker 27: and you know all the different Founding fathers, James Madison,

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Speaker 27: you see that Christian faith played a very important role.

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Speaker 1: Well in the.

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Speaker 4: Doctor Newcomb, we have a great clip from Charlie basically

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Speaker 4: asserting the Christian roots of our founding and we might

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Speaker 4: play that this hour. We'll be right back more when

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Speaker 4: we get back.

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Speaker 5: New Slash Democrats America as a republic not a democracy

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Speaker 5: fact check true.

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Speaker 4: All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. I'm

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Speaker 4: Andrew Colvitt, executive producer of this show, joined by Blake Neff,

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Speaker 4: and we have two amazing guests, doctor Jerry Newcomb and

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Speaker 4: Bill Federer, longtime friend of Charlie's and a great man,

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Speaker 4: great historian. I you know, I'm reflecting right now, Blake,

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Speaker 4: on things I'm thankful for genuinely. And I actually a

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Speaker 4: couple of weeks ago, I thought, you know, I'm not

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Speaker 4: sure what I'm exactly going to be thankful for this year,

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Speaker 4: because it's it's been a tough year, let's be honest.

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Speaker 4: But I am thankful genuinely for this show. I'm thankful

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Speaker 4: for the audience out there, and I'm thankful that we

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Speaker 4: get to keep doing it. You know, when when Charlie

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Speaker 4: was sort of you know, when he's assassinated, taken from us.

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Speaker 4: I'll never forget when Erica looked at us and said,

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Speaker 4: you have to keep the show going, and they can't

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Speaker 4: silence my husband's voice. And it's a huge, huge duty

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Speaker 4: and honor that we that we continue on here, and

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Speaker 4: you know that wouldn't be possible without our partners. And

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Speaker 4: I'll never forget when I looked at the folks over

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Speaker 4: at y REFI and they just said, we're sticking by you.

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Speaker 4: We're not going anywhere. We're gonna keep supporting the show,

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Speaker 4: keep supporting Turning Point. And so that's kind of people

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Speaker 4: they are, genuinely, and I am grateful for them, and

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Speaker 4: I'm grateful that they help us keep doing what we

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Speaker 4: do here. So if you find yourself in a situation

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Speaker 4: where you could use them, they help you with private

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Speaker 4: student loan debt that's distressed or defaulted. If you find

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Speaker 4: yourself in a bad situation, backed into a corner financially,

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Speaker 4: you're gonna want to check out the guys at yrefi

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Speaker 4: dot com. Yrefi dot com, you can call them eight

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Speaker 4: eight eight y refight thirty four. They will custom tailor

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Speaker 4: a solution that will help you, and they if you

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Speaker 4: have a budget that we're going to work within that

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Speaker 4: they're gonna give you low interest rates. They'll even let

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Speaker 4: you skip a payment every six months up to twelve times.

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Speaker 4: So that's the kind of people that y Refi are.

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Speaker 4: And it's not some you know, nameless faceless call center.

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Speaker 4: You're gonna talk to Americans. They're gonna work with you

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Speaker 4: and find out how they can help you. So God

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Speaker 4: bless them. Laying in the team, David on the team,

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Speaker 4: so great people over, Why REFI We're going to continue

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Speaker 4: on honoring one of Charlie's favorite holidays, and that's Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 4: We have a lot to be grateful for in spite

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Speaker 4: of everything this year, and let's remember to thank God

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Speaker 4: in this moment. We'll be right back with National Radio

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Speaker 4: in two seconds. All right, welcome back to the Charlie

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Speaker 4: Kirk Show. We're joined by doctor Jerry Newcomb and Bill Federer. Blake,

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Speaker 4: you have some by the way, gentlemen, just in case

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Speaker 4: you're not aware, Blake is our resident historian set whatever.

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Speaker 4: So he No, I've did.

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Speaker 14: With Bill, We've tad I would come on when charlieould

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Speaker 14: talk about it was a lot of fun.

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Speaker 4: Don't understand. Don't under understand.

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Speaker 14: We were talking before the break about the Founders and

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Speaker 14: you know, the myth the Founders were all, you know,

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Speaker 14: proto modern atheists and such, and so I was looking

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Speaker 14: at some of you know, the early Thanksgiving stuff. So

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Speaker 14: George Washington was was proclaiming days of Thanksgiving in the

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Speaker 14: middle of the Revolutionary War, notably after the Battle at Saratoga,

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Speaker 14: which was the victory that really opened the way for

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Speaker 14: America to to actually win that conflict multiple and then

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Speaker 14: we had we had proclamations of Thanksgiving by the Continental

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Speaker 14: Congress or the Confederation Congress during that fun period where

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Speaker 14: we didn't have the Constitution yet. And then this one

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Speaker 14: really stood out to me as remarkable. Basically, the day

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Speaker 14: after the House of Representatives voted to advance the first Amendment,

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Speaker 14: the Freedom of a Religion Amendment, the that people used

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Speaker 14: to argue there's a wall of separation between church and

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Speaker 14: state and our government.

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Speaker 12: You know, they declared us a non religious country. The

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Speaker 12: day after they do this.

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Speaker 14: Uh, Congressman Elias, I have no idea how they're going

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Speaker 14: to pronounce that. From New Jersey, he had the House

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Speaker 14: and Senate jointly call for President Washington to declare a

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Speaker 14: day of Thanksgiving for quote the many signal favors of

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Speaker 14: Almighty God in his favor for our country.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Bill, you know this. This is a debate that goes

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Speaker 4: back and forth, and Charlie I think had the ultimate

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Speaker 4: slap down video. I think we're just gonna have to

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Speaker 4: play it when we get it. Bill, was America of

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Speaker 4: a Christian nation? Do we have Christian roots or are

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Speaker 4: we just a bunch of deists, you know that believe

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Speaker 4: in a distant God?

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Speaker 13: What what?

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Speaker 4: What is the truth?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Well, Europe was Catholic and then the Reformation started and

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Speaker 6: then you had one denomination per country.

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Speaker 1: So northern Germany and Sweden or Lutheran. Switzerland was Calvinist,

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Speaker 1: Scotland was Presbyterian, Holland was Dutch Reform. It least being

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Speaker 1: France Officer of Poland State Catholic. And if you did

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Speaker 1: not believe the way your king did, you were persecuted

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Speaker 1: and you fled. And a lot of those people that

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Speaker 1: fled spilled over and founded colonies in America. So I

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Speaker 1: read every charter of every colony. Every colony was.

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Speaker 6: Started by a different Christian denomination. Virginia was Anglican.

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Speaker 1: You had.

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Speaker 6: The oath of Supremacy acknowledging that the King is the

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Speaker 6: head of the Anglican Church. Massu spirit and Rhode Island

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Speaker 6: was founded by Baptists. New York was founded by Dutch Reform.

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Speaker 6: Delaware and New Jersey were originally Swedish Lutheran and then

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Speaker 6: taken over by the Dutch and then taken over by

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Speaker 6: the British. Connecticut New Hampshire were Congregationalist Christian colonies and

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Speaker 6: Pennsylvania Quaker, and I mentioned Maryland was found by Catholics,

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Speaker 6: Lord Baltimore. But the idea in America was they didn't

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Speaker 6: get along, they turned feather each others. But then they

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Speaker 6: all had to work together against the King of England.

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Speaker 6: After the Revolution, their attitude changed to we may not

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Speaker 6: always agree on religion, but you were well fine and

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Speaker 6: die for my freedom.

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Speaker 1: I need to let you practice your faith.

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Speaker 6: And so religion began to expand, but on a state

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Speaker 6: by state basis. So in seventeen seventy six, ninety eight

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Speaker 6: percent of the country was Protestant, a three million people,

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Speaker 6: only one percent Catholic. Only thirty thousand Catholics in a

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Speaker 6: country three million. They were only allowed in Maryland, Counsylvania,

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Speaker 6: and New York. And then one tenth of a percent Jewish,

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Speaker 6: only seven synagogus in the whole country. And then I

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Speaker 6: read through every state constitution and so nine of the

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Speaker 6: original thirteen you had to be a Protestant, three you

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Speaker 6: had to be a plane Christian. And then there's an

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Speaker 6: Irish data fan and millions of Irish Catholics come to America,

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Speaker 6: and they go from one percent of twenty percent in

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Speaker 6: a decade, and then states began to expand from requiring

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Speaker 6: to be Protestant to just Christian. Then there's a persecution

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Speaker 6: of Jews in Bavaria. They come across and go from

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Speaker 6: a tenth to a percent to one percent. In eighteen

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Speaker 6: fifty one, Maryland changed its state constitution to say you

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Speaker 6: could hold office if you were a Christian or a Jew.

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Speaker 6: And then after the Civil War, many states rewrote their

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Speaker 6: constitutions to say all he had to do was believe

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Speaker 6: in God. But again, the first Amendment was simply to

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Speaker 6: prevent the federal government from picking one Christian denomination and

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Speaker 6: making it the national one, which again was what every

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Speaker 6: country in Europe had done.

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Speaker 4: Wow, that's thorough, That's very fair. I wonder if so

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Speaker 4: Charlie had this great exchange. We're going to play it

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Speaker 4: in the next segment. But I, Bill, did you give

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Speaker 4: him all of the Where did he get that from?

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Speaker 9: You?

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Speaker 1: Bill? Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we did an interview actually on that topic beforehand,

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Speaker 6: and then right after he recorded that, he texted it

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Speaker 6: to me and he said, how did I do.

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Speaker 13: Well?

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Speaker 4: I think he did well because that clip was seen

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Speaker 4: by tens of millions of people. It really was an

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Speaker 4: absolute masterclass. Doctor Jerry newcome you when we play it

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Speaker 4: for you, we'll get your your review on how Charlie did.

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Speaker 4: But it's one of those clips that keeps coming back

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Speaker 4: around again and again and again, especially after we lost Charlie,

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Speaker 4: because I think it it just was the exact type

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Speaker 4: of moral clarity that the world so desperately needs. And

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Speaker 4: Charlie had a way of being patient but forceful and

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Speaker 4: firm and morally Claire and I think it was a

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Speaker 4: really powerful moment. So we're gonna play that. We can

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Speaker 4: open the next segment with it, and doctor Jerry Nucomb

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Speaker 4: will get your will get your your grade AAA through F.

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Speaker 4: You're gonna have to grade Charlie's take.

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Speaker 10: There.

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Speaker 4: We'll be right back more with doctor Jerry Nukem and

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Speaker 4: Bill Federer. We'll get back.

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Speaker 20: Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break. I'm

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Speaker 20: Terrence Bates. The holidays in full swing at the White House.

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Speaker 20: Is President Trump just pardoned two turkeys? You see one

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Speaker 20: of them there. The ceremonial pardons are tradition for US

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Speaker 20: presidents and date back decades. This year's pardon turkeys are

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Speaker 20: named Waddle and Gobble. Only Gobble was at the White House,

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Speaker 20: though you see Gobble there forty seven. By the way,

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Speaker 20: you also use the stage to deliver a bit of

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Speaker 20: a job at his predecessor, Joe Biden.

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Speaker 28: So I want to make an important announcement because you

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Speaker 28: remember last year, after a thorough and very rigorous investigation

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Speaker 28: by Pam Bondi and all of the people at the

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Speaker 28: Department of Justice, the FBI, the CIA, the White House

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Speaker 28: Counsel's Office, and the Apartment of Everything. We have a

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Speaker 28: Department of Everything, you know that is I think that's

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Speaker 28: called the White House into a terrible situation caused by

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Speaker 28: a man named sleepy Joe Biden. He used an auto

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Speaker 28: pen last year for the Turkey's pardon. So I have

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Speaker 28: the official duty to determine, and I have determined that

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Speaker 28: last year's Turkey partons are totally invalid, as are the

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Speaker 28: partners of about every other person that was pardoned other than.

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Speaker 10: Where's Hunter.

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Speaker 28: No Hunters was good. That was the one part in

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Speaker 28: pamp that was good, Right, The rest of them are

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Speaker 28: all invalid.

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Speaker 23: I don't know what the hell you're going to.

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Speaker 28: Do about that, but that's now We're going to take

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Speaker 28: a little of the joke and that is a mess.

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Speaker 4: But they're hereby nol and void.

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Speaker 28: The turkeys known as peachin Blossom last year have been

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Speaker 28: located and they were on their way to be processed,

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Speaker 28: in other words, to be killed. But I have stopped

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Speaker 28: that journey and I am officially pardoning them and they

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Speaker 28: will not be served for Thanksgiving dinner. We saved them

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Speaker 28: in the nick of time. This one has plenty of time,

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Speaker 28: but they were saved in the nick of time.

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Speaker 20: Meantime, the White House Christmas tree is in place this morning.

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Speaker 20: It's from Michigan's Coursince Tree Farm. This year White House

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Speaker 20: Christmas decorations will reportedly be gold themed with garland and ornaments.

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Speaker 20: The President and First Lady are set to leave the

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Speaker 20: White House later on this evening and spend Thanksgiving it

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Speaker 20: Mari Laga, that's a quick check of your headlines.

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Speaker 19: You're leveless than spirit. You're listening to the Charlie Kirk Show.

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm also grateful for Hillsdale College because Charlie

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Speaker 4: loved it so much, and we're talking.

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Speaker 12: About I'm grateful for a lot of things. Yeah, I

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Speaker 12: will get into that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right, And we are going to do a

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Speaker 4: thought crime, on what we're grateful for, history, economics, the

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Speaker 4: great works of literature. Did you study these things in school?

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Speaker 4: Sadly probably not, But even if you did, it's time

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Speaker 4: for a refresher course. Hillsdale College is offering more than

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Speaker 4: forty free online courses, including their newest course on totalitarian novels.

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Speaker 4: In this free eight lecture course, you'll learn from Hillsdale

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Speaker 4: College President, Doctor Larry Arn, the Great Doctor Larry Arn,

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Speaker 4: as he goes in depth on four novels nineteen eighty four,

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Speaker 4: Brave New World, Darkness at Noon, in that Hideous Strength.

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Speaker 4: Even though these novels were written in the nineteen thirties

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Speaker 4: and forties, they are highly relevant today as they show

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Speaker 4: what tyrannical government does to human nature. More importantly, they

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Speaker 4: can show us that faith, family, and friends in this

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Speaker 4: country are still worth fighting for. Maybe you read these

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Speaker 4: books long ago, Maybe you've heard others talk about them

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Speaker 4: and they feel a little intimidating.

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Speaker 1: They don't have to.

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Speaker 4: Hillsdale College can help you make the most of them.

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Speaker 4: Go right now to Charlie forour Hillsdale dot com to enroll.

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Speaker 4: There's no cost, it's easy to get started. That's Charlie

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Speaker 4: for Hillsdale dot com to register char L I E

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Speaker 4: dot com or for Hillsdale dot com. Do it today.

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Speaker 4: You won't regret it that as for sure. Okay, gentlemen,

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Speaker 4: I apologize it is a longer clip. But doctor Jerry Newcome,

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna get your reaction to this on the other side.

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Speaker 4: I believe we have it, don't we We have it?

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Speaker 12: Yes?

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Speaker 4: Is it loaded?

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Speaker 1: Believe it?

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Speaker 4: Let's try to fourteen.

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Speaker 29: Remember that we were a collection of states and colonies,

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Speaker 29: and you need to read the state constitutions for anything else.

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Speaker 29: Thirteen on thirteen required a declaration of faith. Nine to

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Speaker 29: thirteen required you to be a Protestant, except Marylyn, which

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Speaker 29: was Catholic, which still required a declaration of faith. Every

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Speaker 29: single one of the original state constitutions Pennsylvania included they

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Speaker 29: had I profess Lord in Jesus Christ as my Lord

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Speaker 29: and Savior in the original state constitutions. Secondly, fifty five

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Speaker 29: fifty six of the original signers of the declaration were

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Speaker 29: Bible believing church attending Christians. You asked about common law,

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Speaker 29: so common law is inherited from Blackstone, who was Christian.

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Speaker 29: A common law is an outgrowth of the scriptures, so

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Speaker 29: let's go to three principles of common law, due process,

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Speaker 29: and drew of your peers, wrapped into the ultimate Biblical

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Speaker 29: principle that you shall not favor justice if you are

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Speaker 29: richer report, which is in Leviticus nineteen, right before the

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Speaker 29: most famous part of Lividicus nineteen, which is that you

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Speaker 29: should love your neighbors yourself. But before that is that

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Speaker 29: in the administration of justice you shall not favor the

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Speaker 29: rich or the poor, which is the idea of blind justice.

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Speaker 29: We get that in the West, which is incorporated also

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Speaker 29: in the New Testament ideal. Neither slave nor Greek nor Jew,

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Speaker 29: You're all one in Jesus Christ, as you get to

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Speaker 29: aid human equality.

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Speaker 1: These are all Biblical ideas.

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Speaker 29: They're not Enlightenment ideas, which is they kind of get

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Speaker 29: conflated at the time. But more importantly than that, they

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Speaker 29: say that God was only mentioned four times in the

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Speaker 29: Declaration of Independence.

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Speaker 10: Well, that's a big.

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Speaker 29: Deal, okay, laws of nature and Nature's God. The last

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Speaker 29: paragraph of the declaration reads as a prayer. It says,

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Speaker 29: we appeal to the supreme judge of the universe, who's

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Speaker 29: the judged universe. Jesus Christ says in Revelation that Jesus

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Speaker 29: will judge the earth on his throne. So in the

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Speaker 29: declaration they were praying to Christ our Lord as a

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Speaker 29: prayer very specifically. Thirdly, as I said on stage yesterday,

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Speaker 29: Deuteronomy was by far the most quoted book religious or

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Speaker 29: non religious in the time of the Founding when they

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Speaker 29: were putting together Constitution, more than John Locke, more than Montesquieu,

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Speaker 29: more than Blackstone. So the Book of Deuteronomy, which talked

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Speaker 29: about laws, customs, traditions, it was Moses's farewell address as

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Speaker 29: he's about to say goodbye, say hey, good luck, and canaan, guys,

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Speaker 29: here's how you should set up your form of government.

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Speaker 29: But finally, and most importantly, let's look at actually what

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Speaker 29: the founder said. John Adam seelessly said the Constitution was

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Speaker 29: only written for a moral.

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Speaker 1: Religious people.

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Speaker 29: It was wholly inadequate for the people of any other

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Speaker 29: the body politic of America. It was so Christian and

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Speaker 29: was so Protestant that our form and structure of government

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Speaker 29: was built for the people that believed in Christ our Lord.

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Speaker 29: One of the reasons we're living through a constitutional crisis

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Speaker 29: is that we no longer have a Christian nation, but

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Speaker 29: we have a Christian form of government, and they're incompatible.

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Speaker 4: So you cannot have liberty if you do not have

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Speaker 4: a Christian population. Boom zing, great content, Doctor Newcombe.

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Speaker 13: Your reaction absolutely horrific, And he's totally right.

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Speaker 27: We have this foundation of the nation that is based

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Speaker 27: on biblical principles and that quote that he alluded to

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Speaker 27: from John Adams. Our constitution was made only for a

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Speaker 27: moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the

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Speaker 27: government of any other. When George Washington was leaving the office,

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Speaker 27: he gave us the farewell address, and he said, there,

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Speaker 27: of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity,

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Speaker 27: religion and morality are indispensable supports. Well modern Americans today

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Speaker 27: saying religion and morality have no place in the public.

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Speaker 13: Arena, what are you talking about. It was religion and morality,

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Speaker 13: specifically Christianity that gave us the freedoms we enjoy, and those.

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Speaker 27: Freedoms cannot be maintained for long if we undercut that

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Speaker 27: Christian foundation. Now the foundation is still there, it's attacked

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Speaker 27: and people will bring out, you know, all kinds of

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Speaker 27: different ways to try and cut us off from that foundation.

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Speaker 27: But the foundation is still there in a different context.

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Speaker 27: John Adams once said facts are stubborn things. This is

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Speaker 27: why the history is so important. This is why at

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Speaker 27: Providenceforum dot org, for example, we do so much to

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Speaker 27: try and create these videos and programs like you do

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Speaker 27: too at Turning Point with Bill Federer, in order to.

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Speaker 13: Educate people about our Christian roots.

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Speaker 27: And you know, the fact of the matter is human

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Speaker 27: beings are sinful, and that is a very important doctrine

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Speaker 27: that the Founding fathers fully understood. You read the Constitution

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Speaker 27: and you see the separation of power. They did not

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Speaker 27: want to give too much power to too many people.

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Speaker 27: You read the Declaration of Independence and you see the

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Speaker 27: consent of the governed, and this is because we have

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Speaker 27: our rights from God.

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Speaker 13: So the fact that human beings are made in the

1517
01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:24,519
Speaker 13: image of God.

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Speaker 27: That's enshrined in the Declaration of Independence, and the fact

1519
01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:31,200
Speaker 27: that human beings are fallen and sinful, that's entrined in

1520
01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:32,000
Speaker 27: the Constitution.

1521
01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:35,960
Speaker 13: And these have governed us very very well. When you

1522
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:36,599
Speaker 13: look at.

1523
01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:40,960
Speaker 27: Countries like the communist countries, for example, in the twentieth

1524
01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:44,320
Speaker 27: century and twenty first century, even you see how they

1525
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:46,280
Speaker 27: begin with this atheistic foundation.

1526
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:47,800
Speaker 13: There is no God.

1527
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:51,120
Speaker 27: And when there is no God and the belief of that,

1528
01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:55,639
Speaker 27: then there are no rights. So even some liberal type

1529
01:19:56,760 --> 01:20:00,720
Speaker 27: founders of America, for example Thomas Jefferson, he wasn't Unchristian

1530
01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:02,200
Speaker 27: is he sometimes made out to be.

1531
01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:04,240
Speaker 13: He was not a lifelong skeptic.

1532
01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:09,600
Speaker 27: In fact, the year after he wrote the Declaration of Independence,

1533
01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:13,800
Speaker 27: he helped found as a layman the Calvinistical Reform Church

1534
01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:17,720
Speaker 27: of Charlottesville, And he even wrote up the agreement for

1535
01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:21,799
Speaker 27: the subscription for this and they called an evangelical minister,

1536
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:25,200
Speaker 27: the Reverend Charles Clay for this church, and they said,

1537
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:29,360
Speaker 27: we're desirous of gospel knowledge. But even Jefferson later, when

1538
01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:31,040
Speaker 27: he has some doubts and so forth about some of

1539
01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:36,760
Speaker 27: the doctrines, he still said that our rights come from God.

1540
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:40,439
Speaker 27: And if we ever forget that, I tremble for my country,

1541
01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:44,519
Speaker 27: because how can we maintain our freedoms if we ever

1542
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:49,240
Speaker 27: lose sight of God. And the twentieth century and the

1543
01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:52,920
Speaker 27: beginning of the twenty first century, there's many nations have

1544
01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:56,040
Speaker 27: been soaked in blood because they began with the premise

1545
01:20:56,080 --> 01:21:00,800
Speaker 27: that there is no God, there's no higher authority then

1546
01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:05,200
Speaker 27: the state. The state is God. So good luck with that,

1547
01:21:05,720 --> 01:21:09,400
Speaker 27: so mao is slain is millions and tens of millions

1548
01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:10,200
Speaker 27: in Stalin two.

1549
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:14,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, well said, well said, the soaked and bloodline. Really

1550
01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:16,640
Speaker 4: it hits and we have to be on guard about that.

1551
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:20,280
Speaker 12: And speaking of that, I think it's worth remembering that.

1552
01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:22,400
Speaker 14: You know, we've talked about the first Thanksgiving, we talked

1553
01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:26,600
Speaker 14: about the founding era Thanksgivings, but the annual you know Thanksgiving,

1554
01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:29,720
Speaker 14: as we observe it was born in the middle of

1555
01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:33,760
Speaker 14: the American Civil War, yep, proclaimed by Lincoln eighteen sixty three.

1556
01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:36,760
Speaker 14: That's not the end of the Civil War. That's the

1557
01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:39,360
Speaker 14: peak of the war, right part of it. Tens of

1558
01:21:39,439 --> 01:21:42,439
Speaker 14: thousands of people are dying every month. This is just

1559
01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:45,519
Speaker 14: a few months after Gettysburg, the bloodiest battle in American history,

1560
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:49,519
Speaker 14: and that is when Lincoln issues his proclamation that we

1561
01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:51,920
Speaker 14: should have a national day of Thanksgiving.

1562
01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:54,200
Speaker 12: And I think there's a lot of meaning in.

1563
01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:57,040
Speaker 4: That, Yeah, especially this year, given what we've been through.

1564
01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:00,280
Speaker 4: Bill on that note of what Blake's talking, but how

1565
01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:04,960
Speaker 4: did we get from Jamestown to eighteen sixty three? What

1566
01:22:06,439 --> 01:22:09,840
Speaker 4: was the American experience with Thanksgiving in between that time?

1567
01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:12,599
Speaker 1: Right? Well, now, I do want to mention.

1568
01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:15,040
Speaker 6: I have a book and it's called The Treacherous World

1569
01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:17,680
Speaker 6: of the sixteenth Century and how the Pilgrims escaped it.

1570
01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:20,400
Speaker 1: So it gets the whole setting of what was going

1571
01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:22,320
Speaker 1: on in Europe. What were the Muslims are doing?

1572
01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:26,560
Speaker 6: People forget that they were surrounding Vienna Austria twice and

1573
01:22:27,160 --> 01:22:30,240
Speaker 6: they had pirates capturing and they had the whole Catholic

1574
01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:33,320
Speaker 6: orders in Europe called the Trinitarians, and they would ransom

1575
01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:36,120
Speaker 6: back people from muslim slavery. And matter of fact, one

1576
01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:39,120
Speaker 6: of the Pilgrim ships was captured by Muslim pirates in

1577
01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:42,120
Speaker 6: sixteen twenty five. William Bradford said they saved up eight

1578
01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:44,799
Speaker 6: hundred pounds of beaver skins sent it back to England,

1579
01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:47,240
Speaker 6: but it was captured in the English Channel by a

1580
01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:50,720
Speaker 6: Turkish man of war, carried off to Salm Morocco, and.

1581
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:53,920
Speaker 1: The crew was made slaves. So even the Pilgrims had

1582
01:22:53,960 --> 01:22:54,479
Speaker 1: to deal with that.

1583
01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:57,120
Speaker 6: One other thing before we get off the Pilgrims is

1584
01:22:57,200 --> 01:23:00,280
Speaker 6: they tried communism right, so they had no money, borrowed

1585
01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:02,920
Speaker 6: money from a London company that set up by laws

1586
01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:05,920
Speaker 6: that said everything would be held in common. Everything got

1587
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:08,679
Speaker 6: by cooking trucking, fishing shall go into ye common stock,

1588
01:23:08,760 --> 01:23:11,400
Speaker 6: and everyone's livelihood schul come out of ye common stock.

1589
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:13,920
Speaker 6: And William Bradford said they tried it and almost starved

1590
01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:16,320
Speaker 6: to death. He says that the young man objected to

1591
01:23:16,439 --> 01:23:18,280
Speaker 6: doing twice as much work as the old guy, but

1592
01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:20,840
Speaker 6: got paid the same. The women objected to having to

1593
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:24,919
Speaker 6: wash other men's clothes, and William Bradford said, after much discussion,

1594
01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:27,120
Speaker 6: it was decided that each man should plant corn for

1595
01:23:27,320 --> 01:23:28,160
Speaker 6: his own household.

1596
01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:30,200
Speaker 1: This made all hands more industrious.

1597
01:23:30,240 --> 01:23:32,320
Speaker 6: The women now went willingly into the field and took

1598
01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:34,639
Speaker 6: their little ones with them to plant corn. Well before

1599
01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:36,880
Speaker 6: they would allege wheakniss, and to afforce them would have

1600
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:40,360
Speaker 6: been great oppression. So here the Pilgrims tried everything owned

1601
01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:44,320
Speaker 6: in common, and it didn't work. One other thing that's

1602
01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:47,360
Speaker 6: overlooked is there were twice as many Indians at the

1603
01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:48,719
Speaker 6: first Thanksgiving than Pilgrims.

1604
01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:52,120
Speaker 1: There was like ninety Indians and only fifty two Pilgrims.

1605
01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:55,519
Speaker 6: And get this, only four adult women cooking for one

1606
01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:57,960
Speaker 6: hundred and forty two people, because all the rest of

1607
01:23:57,960 --> 01:24:01,160
Speaker 6: the had died in the winter. And then one other

1608
01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:04,840
Speaker 6: quick thing is Squanto, who had been kidnapped by some

1609
01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:09,759
Speaker 6: unscrupulous people and taken and sold as a slave in Malaga, Spain.

1610
01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:11,640
Speaker 1: He was purchased by some friars.

1611
01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:14,799
Speaker 6: Given his freedom, he hitchhikes his way back to England

1612
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:17,160
Speaker 6: works for the Newfoundland company that drop him off on

1613
01:24:17,200 --> 01:24:19,880
Speaker 6: the shores of America, only to find out that his

1614
01:24:20,200 --> 01:24:21,479
Speaker 6: entire tribe was wiped out.

1615
01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:21,880
Speaker 1: In a plague.

1616
01:24:22,479 --> 01:24:26,479
Speaker 6: And William Bradford's has three years earlier friendship was shipwrecked there,

1617
01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:29,080
Speaker 6: and evidently one of the sailors that got ashorehead of

1618
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:32,120
Speaker 6: illness and wiped out the tribe. But had Squanto not

1619
01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:34,840
Speaker 6: been kidnapped, he most likely would have been killed as well.

1620
01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:37,800
Speaker 6: But here the pilgrims land, and half of them by

1621
01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:39,800
Speaker 6: the first winter. But the next spring, out of the

1622
01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:44,040
Speaker 6: woods walks his Indian Squanto, And you can just imagine

1623
01:24:44,080 --> 01:24:46,280
Speaker 6: the conversation, Oh, you guys from England. Yeah, I used

1624
01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:48,800
Speaker 6: to live there, and then in this place I grew

1625
01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:52,000
Speaker 6: up here. And so Squanto was their interpreters, showed him

1626
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:54,120
Speaker 6: how to catch beaver and plant corn, and was a

1627
01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:57,440
Speaker 6: special instrument sent of God for their good beyond their expectation.

1628
01:24:57,520 --> 01:25:01,240
Speaker 6: What William Bradford said, and one last thing Squanto was dying.

1629
01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:03,320
Speaker 6: He says that a couple of years later, they were

1630
01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:06,040
Speaker 6: exploring and they got caught in the freezing rain, and

1631
01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:09,439
Speaker 6: Squanto fell ill of Indian fever, bleeding much of the nose,

1632
01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:13,000
Speaker 6: and he begged Governor Bradford to pray for him that

1633
01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:17,240
Speaker 6: he might go to the Englishman's God in heaven. All right,

1634
01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:22,160
Speaker 6: so Squanto became a Christian. I'm confident anyway. So we

1635
01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:26,080
Speaker 6: looked at the Pilgrims because they had self government, which

1636
01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:30,240
Speaker 6: inspired New England and then eventually turned into our constitution.

1637
01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:32,719
Speaker 1: Fast forward, Bill.

1638
01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:34,720
Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to pause you because we're about to

1639
01:25:34,720 --> 01:25:36,680
Speaker 4: take a radio break. We're going to go through the

1640
01:25:36,720 --> 01:25:38,840
Speaker 4: break just because I want to maximize our time here.

1641
01:25:38,920 --> 01:25:44,280
Speaker 4: But we gotta do these pesky radio breaks for our

1642
01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:45,880
Speaker 4: national audience. So I want to make sure we say

1643
01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:47,960
Speaker 4: goodbye to them, just for a brief moment before we

1644
01:25:48,040 --> 01:25:50,280
Speaker 4: come back. But you guys are giving us some great

1645
01:25:50,280 --> 01:25:54,519
Speaker 4: stuff here. Bill's gonna explain the connection between the First

1646
01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:57,880
Speaker 4: Thanksgiving in eighteen sixty three, the Declaration of the First

1647
01:25:57,880 --> 01:26:15,920
Speaker 4: Thanksgiving by Lincoln. We'll be right back, all right. Got

1648
01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:18,320
Speaker 4: an email here from Kevin. This is really good, Blake,

1649
01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:19,160
Speaker 4: you want to read this one.

1650
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:20,080
Speaker 12: Or let me see.

1651
01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:23,800
Speaker 14: Yes, I got it, so, he says, Charlie was right.

1652
01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:26,840
Speaker 14: We should all strive to keep Thanksgiving going strong. It's

1653
01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:30,000
Speaker 14: an American holiday, it is a Christian holiday. It's hard

1654
01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:34,280
Speaker 14: to make gratitude marketable, which is why other holidays get

1655
01:26:34,360 --> 01:26:36,400
Speaker 14: more attention for their commercial opportunities.

1656
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:39,519
Speaker 12: It's May God bless the Kirk family. Thank you very much, Kevin.

1657
01:26:39,760 --> 01:26:42,519
Speaker 4: Kevin Well said, Kevin, I love that it's so true.

1658
01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:46,080
Speaker 14: I mean, the other they're like they're dying for Thanksgiving

1659
01:26:46,160 --> 01:26:48,080
Speaker 14: to end so they can like slam the door and

1660
01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:50,760
Speaker 14: say and now it's Christmas shopping season, go out for black.

1661
01:26:51,200 --> 01:26:53,960
Speaker 4: This is what upsets me about celebrating Christmas in like

1662
01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:57,840
Speaker 4: after Halloween, because you're just short changing.

1663
01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:02,000
Speaker 14: The Thanksgiving and Thanksgiving is it is related Christmas, but

1664
01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:04,840
Speaker 14: it is not Christmas. It is a separate holiday. Yes,

1665
01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:06,840
Speaker 14: and we shouldn't just fold it in.

1666
01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:10,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, I completely agree. Bill. Connect the dots here.

1667
01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:14,960
Speaker 4: We got to go kind of quick here between the

1668
01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:18,599
Speaker 4: first Thanksgiving and eighteen sixty three in that declaration by

1669
01:27:18,680 --> 01:27:19,400
Speaker 4: President Lincoln.

1670
01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:25,639
Speaker 1: Bill right, so they had an attitude when things were bad.

1671
01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:29,200
Speaker 6: You would have days of prayer, and when things got

1672
01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:31,000
Speaker 6: real bad, they had days of fasting and prayer. When

1673
01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:33,599
Speaker 6: things turned around, they had days of thanksgiving, and they

1674
01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:37,519
Speaker 6: were on an as needed basis. And so, as Blake mentioned,

1675
01:27:37,920 --> 01:27:41,840
Speaker 6: you had days of fasting during the Revolutionary War and

1676
01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:42,960
Speaker 6: then days of thanksgiving.

1677
01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:46,880
Speaker 1: You had threatened war with France.

1678
01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:49,200
Speaker 6: And John Adams has two days of fasting in prayer

1679
01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:52,519
Speaker 6: and then days of thanksgiving during when the British burned

1680
01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:56,080
Speaker 6: the White House. James Madison has a day of fasting

1681
01:27:56,120 --> 01:27:59,200
Speaker 6: and prayer and then a day of thanksgiving. During a

1682
01:27:59,280 --> 01:28:03,000
Speaker 6: cholera epidemic in eighteen forty nine went at one hundred

1683
01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:05,719
Speaker 6: and fifty thousand American side of Coller, you had Zachary

1684
01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:09,280
Speaker 6: Taylor had a day of fasting, and then Lincoln had

1685
01:28:09,479 --> 01:28:12,200
Speaker 6: two days of fasting and prayer during the Revolution, and

1686
01:28:12,280 --> 01:28:15,080
Speaker 6: then he made as Blake mentioned, the day of Thanksgiving

1687
01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:18,120
Speaker 6: an annual event. But it was a relationship with God.

1688
01:28:18,280 --> 01:28:21,960
Speaker 6: Now from Lincoln till now, it's an annual event. And

1689
01:28:22,840 --> 01:28:29,320
Speaker 6: matter of fact, it's the last Thursday in September. In November,

1690
01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:33,240
Speaker 6: FDR wanted to move it one week earlier so there'd

1691
01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:35,160
Speaker 6: be a next week of shopping before Christmas, and that

1692
01:28:35,240 --> 01:28:38,559
Speaker 6: became a campaign issue that the Republicans like, we're going

1693
01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:43,200
Speaker 6: to move Thanksgiving back to the original date. But it's

1694
01:28:43,240 --> 01:28:46,559
Speaker 6: always been biblical. It's always been thinking a monotheistic God.

1695
01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:50,320
Speaker 6: So you're leaving out a Buddhism and Hinduism. And it's

1696
01:28:50,640 --> 01:28:53,640
Speaker 6: also that you have the freedom like Jefferson had a

1697
01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:58,960
Speaker 6: day of Thanksgiving that the Continental Congress asked everybody to

1698
01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:01,160
Speaker 6: all the states subs urb and he's governor of Virginia,

1699
01:29:01,240 --> 01:29:03,600
Speaker 6: so he has Virginia observed a day of Thanksgiving. But

1700
01:29:03,720 --> 01:29:05,880
Speaker 6: it was voluntary, so they didn't want to have to

1701
01:29:05,920 --> 01:29:08,640
Speaker 6: be forced, but they wanted to be voluntary. And so

1702
01:29:08,840 --> 01:29:12,679
Speaker 6: voluntary worship of God is clearly Christian. It's not in Islam,

1703
01:29:13,240 --> 01:29:16,000
Speaker 6: and so they're referring to a God of the Bible,

1704
01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:16,960
Speaker 6: and of course many of.

1705
01:29:16,960 --> 01:29:19,639
Speaker 1: Them have proclamations and scriptures in there as well.

1706
01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:24,240
Speaker 4: That's great, really really well said Bill, And I love

1707
01:29:24,320 --> 01:29:27,280
Speaker 4: what you were talking about those presidents that were between

1708
01:29:28,320 --> 01:29:31,599
Speaker 4: Washington and Lincoln and how they had days of fasting

1709
01:29:31,720 --> 01:29:34,120
Speaker 4: and days of prayer and days of thanksgiving. I mean,

1710
01:29:34,880 --> 01:29:37,360
Speaker 4: how amazing would that be if you know the president

1711
01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:39,080
Speaker 4: of the United States called on a day of fasting

1712
01:29:39,160 --> 01:29:42,559
Speaker 4: and prayer. I mean, that would just be a complete

1713
01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:45,000
Speaker 4: paradigm shift from our current moment. And I'm sure it

1714
01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:48,799
Speaker 4: would be incredibly controversial and all of that, but we should.

1715
01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:52,519
Speaker 4: We absolutely should, because America is unique among the nations.

1716
01:29:52,600 --> 01:29:56,000
Speaker 4: We are a providential nation that was founded on Christian

1717
01:29:56,040 --> 01:30:00,240
Speaker 4: belief in God, and I think our origin story really

1718
01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:04,040
Speaker 4: demonstrates that. When we welcome back National Radio in just

1719
01:30:04,080 --> 01:30:06,759
Speaker 4: a few seconds, gentlemen, I'm gonna play one other clip

1720
01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:09,840
Speaker 4: that was one of Charlie's absolute favorites, and it's rush

1721
01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:14,439
Speaker 4: reflecting on the pilgrims who established this nation and that

1722
01:30:14,680 --> 01:30:17,599
Speaker 4: settled it originally, and it was one of Charlie's favorites. Again,

1723
01:30:17,680 --> 01:30:21,880
Speaker 4: we are in full thanksgiving evange evangelization mode here. We

1724
01:30:22,040 --> 01:30:25,519
Speaker 4: believe in times of hardship most of all. Yeah, amen,

1725
01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:29,600
Speaker 4: and this year it's uniquely important that we do it.

1726
01:30:29,720 --> 01:30:31,800
Speaker 4: It's uniquely important that we do it. So we'll be

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Speaker 4: right back with National Radio in just one second.

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Speaker 19: The hardiest working radio show in the business that Charlie Kirkshaw.

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Speaker 4: All right, welcome back to our national radio audience. I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna play this clip one of Charlie's Favorites one ninety four.

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Speaker 10: They knew that they were.

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Speaker 26: Going to face hardship, hardship like you and I don't know.

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Speaker 26: But paramount importance to them was living freely and worshiping

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Speaker 26: God according to the dictates of their own consciences, their

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Speaker 26: own beliefs. That's what they were denied the freedom to do.

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Speaker 1: In England.

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Speaker 10: But because.

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Speaker 26: Of the biblical precedent set forth in scripture, they never doubted,

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Speaker 26: because of their faith in God, that their experiment would work.

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Speaker 26: They never doubted they would get the new world. They

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Speaker 26: never doubted that once they got there they would thrive.

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Speaker 26: During that first winter, remember they arrived in November. During

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Speaker 26: that first winter, half of them, including William Bradford's own wife, died.

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Speaker 19: Spring finally came.

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Speaker 26: They did meet the Indians, the Native Americans who were there,

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Speaker 26: who did help them. You know, Thanksgiving is actually explained

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Speaker 26: in some textbooks as a holiday for which the Pilgrims

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Speaker 26: gave thanks to the Indians for saving their lives.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't that that happened, but.

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Speaker 26: Thanksgiving was a devout expression of gratitude the Pilgrims to

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Speaker 26: God for their survival and everything that was a part

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Speaker 26: of it.

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Speaker 4: Doctor Jerry Newcomb, final thoughts to you as we wrap

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Speaker 4: up the hour.

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Speaker 27: Well, the Pilgrims were a small group of Christian who

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Speaker 27: were basically Christians that were outcasts in their own society,

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Speaker 27: and all they wanted to do was worship Jesus and

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Speaker 27: the purity of the conscience and is Doctor d. James

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Speaker 27: Kennedy once noted America began as a church relocation project.

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Speaker 13: In the sense that the Pilgrims were the ones he's

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Speaker 13: talking about.

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Speaker 27: They went from this place north of London, about one

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Speaker 27: hundred and fifty miles. Then they made it to Holland

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Speaker 27: where they could at least be tolerated, and then eventually

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Speaker 27: they made it to the New World. So in that sense,

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Speaker 27: in the sense that the Pilgrims cast a long and

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Speaker 27: positive shadow in what would become the United States of America,

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Speaker 27: that's a fantastic observation. They began that whole process of

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Speaker 27: self rule under God that we've talked about with the

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Speaker 27: Mayflower Compact.

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Speaker 13: They had a form of socialism imposed.

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Speaker 27: On them by the people who made the loans, so

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Speaker 27: they even have the voyage, and they got rid of

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Speaker 27: that and instead gave free enterprise and they flourished as

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Speaker 27: they made God the center of their whole settlement. And

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Speaker 27: just one last observation in a film I made about this,

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Speaker 27: about the Pilgrims, and Charlie, by the way, a commended

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Speaker 27: one of the films I made, you know, in this

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Speaker 27: whole series called the Foundation of American Liberty series, and

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Speaker 27: Bill Fetter is age a major guests. Anyway, So I

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Speaker 27: interviewed the direct descendant of the de facto pastor of

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Speaker 27: the Pilgrims.

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Speaker 13: His name was William Brewster. And so I interviewed this.

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Speaker 27: Descendant, and he said, suppose after things got real stable

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Speaker 27: in Plymouth, and they were starting to thrive and flourish,

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Speaker 27: you know, under God, suppose one of their children said,

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Speaker 27: do I have to go to church? He said, one

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Speaker 27: of those parents could easily say to that child, what

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Speaker 27: do you mean, do you have to go to church?

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Speaker 27: You have no idea how much we sacrifice so that

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Speaker 27: you can go to church. America was begun by people

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Speaker 27: who wanted to worship Jesus and the purity of the conscience.

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Speaker 13: Then that freedom was extended to everybody else.

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Speaker 27: And now, at least in some quarters, they are trying

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Speaker 27: to say no Christians are not allowed to have that

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Speaker 27: kind of freedom.

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Speaker 13: That's crazy. There's a reason we're called even to this day.

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Speaker 13: Our national motto is in God we Trust.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well said and Bill, I just want to commend

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Speaker 4: you as well. Thank you both for coming. You are

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Speaker 4: a wealth of knowledge. American Minute. It's I want to

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Speaker 4: make sure I got I got it right here American

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Speaker 4: Minute dot com. I just so encourage everybody sign up

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Speaker 4: for your your newsletter. The work you do there is tremendous.

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Speaker 4: At doctor Jerry Newcomb Providenceforum dot org. I got it

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Speaker 4: right final thirty seconds to you, Bill, how can people

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Speaker 4: follow you and and get involved with your your history lessons?

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Well, as matter of fact, turningpoint Ed dot com, if

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Speaker 6: you go to resources and scroll down, you see how

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Speaker 6: we got here.

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Speaker 1: And so I do a weekly video for Turning point Ed.

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Speaker 6: Charlie had He and Rob McCoy and Mikey we went

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Speaker 6: to dinner together. He's like, I want you to be

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Speaker 6: a big part of this, and so I write it's

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Speaker 6: about seven minutes long and anybody can sign up for

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Speaker 6: it's particularly homeschoolers and Christian schools and classes schools.

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Speaker 1: But at Turning point dot com, look at resources and

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Speaker 1: how we got here.

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Speaker 4: I love that. Thank you, Bill, Bill Federer, author and

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Speaker 4: speaker American Minute dot com. Doctor Jerry Newcom, executive director

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Speaker 4: of Providence Forum Providenceforum dot org. Thank you, gentlemen, and

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Speaker 4: happy Thanksgiving to you both.

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Speaker 13: Thank you.

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Speaker 4: We'll see you guys tomorrow