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Get started now sign up. 10 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 1: Please use the promo code Colin so they know we 11 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: sent you. Please use the promo code Collins c O 12 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:51,480 Speaker 1: l I in FanDuel Sports Book App. Sign up well. 13 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: Usually welcome into the Wednesday Morning Podcast. I have Al 14 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: michaels On, one of my idols growing up, and usually 15 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: I have a ten to twelve minute preamble, some thoughts 16 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 1: and rants before my interview, but I went a little 17 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: along with Al. We talked everything from John Madden to 18 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: his first major league game, which is a remarkable story, 19 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: some Olympic stuff, miracles on ice you've never heard, and 20 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:24,759 Speaker 1: I'm not going to get in the way of it. 21 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: I'm just going to let you enjoy the next forty 22 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: five minutes or so. Here's Al Michaels. All right. A 23 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: couple times a year, I'm lucky enough to talk to 24 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: Al Michaels. I've I've said this before that the two 25 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 1: or three broadcasters in my life that had formed some 26 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: sort of personality for me, or Howard Cosell when I 27 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: was eight, maybe cost Us and al Michaels when I 28 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: was eighteen, And I always start saying this, Al, you 29 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: were the best baseball play by play guy that I 30 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: had ever heard. Of course, people in Los Angeles. Vince 31 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: Scully almost Shakespearean in his reverence. Right we then, really 32 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: is remarkable. It's almost literature on radio. But you it's 33 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: interesting out You made a pivot to football. My first 34 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: job out of college. You did the Hawaii Islanders, I 35 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: did to Las Vegas Stars. So I was a baseball guy, 36 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: and Vegas changed me. I could bet on football. I 37 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: loved betting on football, and I became I wasn't a 38 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 1: huge NFL fan as a kid. I was a college 39 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: football baseball guy. You made a pivot, much like Tiger 40 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: Woods changing clubs at the height of his game. You 41 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: were the best baseball guy, and you said I'm gonna 42 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 1: go to football, and you were doing both, but that 43 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: was not at the time. Was there a moment you 44 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: went what am I doing here? Or what did you do? 45 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 1: A conviction? So Colin, basically what it amounted to is 46 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: I cut my eye teeth in baseball. Yeah. I loved baseball. 47 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 1: Did the Hawaii Islanders, did the Cincinnati Reds, Big Red Machine, Bench, 48 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: Rose Morgan, Sparky Perez, went to the Giants, basically tripled 49 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: my salary for three years, went to ABC and did 50 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: all fourteen years of Monday Night baseball. Before that ended, 51 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: they put me on Monday Night Football. So in eighty six, 52 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: eighty seven, eighty eight, and eighty nine, I was doing both. 53 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: But I loved and still do baseball, and I was 54 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: shattered when we lost the rights to baseball going to 55 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: the nineteen ninety season. So by that time I was 56 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: already doing the NFL. I had done a lot of 57 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: college football as well at ABC, so it wasn't a 58 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: matter of voluntarily giving up baseball. I desperately wanted to 59 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: do it, but I was at a place ABC that 60 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: did not have the rights from nineteen eighty nine on 61 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: except for a couple of years when we shared some 62 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: baseball coverage with NBC at the old Baseball Network, and 63 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,839 Speaker 1: that was so the last baseball game I did would 64 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: have been in nineteen ninety five when I did the 65 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: fifth game of the World Series between Atlanta and Cleveland, 66 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: and I had a feeling that would be And I 67 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: did one other game with Bob Conscious at the Park 68 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: in San Francisco for the Baseball Network back in twenty eleven, 69 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: but that was the last time I'd baseball, and I 70 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: truly missed it. I mean it was it was a 71 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: big gaping hole in my heart in a way. But 72 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 1: then you know, I just got used to it. So 73 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 1: it wasn't a matter of wanting to pivot for baseball 74 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: to football. It was a matter if I had no 75 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: choice because ABC just didn't have the rights. You know. 76 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: It's interesting. I did a few games in Hawaii play 77 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: by play in Aloha Stadium, and our vantage point and 78 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: I imagine yours was similar, was like, up, well, remember 79 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: you did Aloha Stadium, which they built. When I left, 80 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: I was at a place called Honolulu Stadium, hard by 81 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: wiki Key on the other side of the Alloway Canal, 82 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: and we used to call it Termite Palace. So that's 83 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: what I did my minor league baseball games at the Termine, 84 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 1: the old Termite Palace, which was a jury rig place 85 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: that they dded like three hundred cias every eight years 86 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: and had a capacity of twenty. It was also the 87 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:25,239 Speaker 1: football stadium and that hosted any number of hula balls 88 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: and the University of Hawaii football games in high school football. Okay, 89 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 1: here's my one Aloha stadium. So it had kind of 90 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: a washed out turf for the time I did a 91 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 1: game there, I'm like twenty two years old, twenty three, 92 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: and I'm with an older gentleman named Dom Valentino rest 93 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: in Seoul. I knew him, yes, yeah, yeah. Dom was 94 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:50,119 Speaker 1: quite a character. So Dom had failing eyesight by the time. 95 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 1: You know, I'm this kid out of college, and he 96 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 1: took me under his wing, and he had done a's games, 97 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: I think Yankees game for a year. He was by 98 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: this time fifties, and I learned a trick from Dom. 99 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: Broadcast with great conviction regardless of what happens, And there 100 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: was a ground ball as we were elevated. We thought 101 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: you could not tell with a washed out turf, and 102 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: it actually ended up Don Valentino's call. He got a 103 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: little lost. He said, here's the two and two. We 104 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: had a very guttural sound. Two and two ground balled, 105 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: are short and it's gone. It is a two run blast. 106 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: And he never paused for one second. Nope, nope, just 107 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: make make it sound good. I know. And it's so 108 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: funny because you mentioned because remember I didn't get to 109 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: do minor league baseball there, but I went back any 110 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: number of times because I was doing the Pro Bowl 111 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: for a number of years when I was at ABC 112 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 1: and even an NBC. And I know about that washed 113 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 1: out turf because you know, somebody paid a lot of 114 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: money to put in a piece of garbage. You're a 115 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: carpet in there. I remember that turf looked like to me, 116 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: it looked like it looked like the rug in a CD. 117 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: Like six dollars a night motel is what it looked like. 118 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: Not the Motel six. You could be Motel six and 119 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: now charges you're like sixty bucks a night, but a 120 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: really really ced hotel. I remember that turf very well. 121 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: So you know, do you prep al? You have a 122 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: very conversational tone to begin with. Has your prep changed 123 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: a few years ago. I've always given every show two 124 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: hours of prep. But I will say that it's gotten 125 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: easier over time, just simply because I've done it so often. 126 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: And there are days I can do an hour prep 127 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: on a Monday during the NFL season. It's just easier 128 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: for me. Or is your prep still remarkably similar to 129 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: when you were twenty seven years old? I would say 130 00:07:56,080 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: it's even more intense, Colin. And the reason is the Internet. 131 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: The fans now know a lot they didn't know. Before 132 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: the Internet, they didn't have access to it. So before 133 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: the Internet came about and all of the talk shows 134 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: and other newspaper availability around the country, the fans could 135 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: not know a lot of what you knew. Now they 136 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: know a lot of what you know. And I've got 137 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: to go deeper into that. And also, we live in 138 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: this kind of like not that I paid that much 139 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: attention to it, but we're kind of in the gotcha world. 140 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: Or if you make a mistake, oh you know, if 141 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: you're talking about get rid of this guy, blah blah 142 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: blah whatever, I mean, we know what that's like, that 143 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 1: anti social media nonsensus out there. But I have found 144 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:47,959 Speaker 1: that I do more work than ever right now. It's 145 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 1: just to come up with some of the nuggets that 146 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: I know, because of our access to coaches, owners, players, 147 00:08:56,000 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 1: personnel people, etc. People who really understand the league that 148 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: the fan, the average fan can't know about it. And 149 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 1: I think that's the type of thing that really stands 150 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 1: out in a telecast. I know, one of the things 151 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: that when we had Arizona a few years ago and 152 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 1: one of their assistant coaches had been an assistant coach 153 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: in Super Bowl One in Los Angeles. This was like 154 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: fifty years later, and people the next day would say, Wow, 155 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: what a story that was. But that was the thing 156 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 1: that you know, I was able to discover by talking 157 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: to the right people and finding out and going back 158 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: and researching what had happened in Super Bowl One. So 159 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: you know, you're looking for things like that, but in 160 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: terms of, you know, preparing for a game, it's it's 161 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: probably a sixty hour a week or a deal for me. 162 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: You know, there's a John Madden documentary coming out here 163 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 1: on Christmas for Fox. You've had a lot of great 164 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: partners and you you know, you work well with a 165 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 1: lot of people. I mean, they put a comedian in 166 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: the booth with you and you made it work. Madden 167 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 1: was so different al in that I remember once reading 168 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: an article that said, you know, he hit you like 169 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: a strong drink. He was just such a force of personality. 170 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 1: Was it was it difficult? I mean, because you knew 171 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: that you You've always been a guy that you navigate 172 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: the play and then you set somebody up. John was different. 173 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: There was a Barkley quality where he just didn't do 174 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: it like anybody else. Was that easier or more difficult 175 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 1: for you? I had seven wonderful years with John, and 176 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: it was It was basically very easy. And one of 177 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: the reasons was when John came to me in two 178 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 1: thousand and two at ABC on Monday Night. He had 179 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 1: left Box and Pat sum Roll was either going to 180 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: retire or not be on the number one game, so 181 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 1: it'd be it easy for John for John to come over. 182 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: We had heard each other so much. I had heard 183 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 1: John do hundreds of games. Was always in the bus 184 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: after a Sunday game on Monday night. He'd heard me 185 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 1: do hundreds of games. And I remember when we got 186 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: together for the first time and our producer Fred Goodelli, 187 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: who's still my producer on Sunday Night now. Fred said 188 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: to us. You guys want to do a practice game 189 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: off tape, and we'll roll the tape and you guys 190 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: can see where you are. And John looked at me 191 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 1: because I was kind of the senior guy at that point, 192 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: John's coming to maybe soon I'd been their X number 193 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: of years, and I said, I don't think we needed 194 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: And then we walked out of the room and John said, 195 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: I'm glad you said that, because we both felt that 196 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: it would have been artificial to sit there and try 197 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 1: to figure out where we were in front of a 198 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 1: in front of a monitor and calling a game in 199 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 1: a studio a fake game. So I know when John 200 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: and I made our debut together in two thousand and 201 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 1: two at the Hall of Fame game in tent, by 202 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: the time I got to the second commercial, I felt 203 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: like I was I'd worked with this guy for fifteen years. 204 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: This was the easiest pipe, and we just had, I think, 205 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: a genuine feel for each other's rhythm, and we had 206 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:12,079 Speaker 1: a great amount you know, I had a great amount 207 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: of respect obviously for John. I think he did for 208 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: me as well, and it made it so pleasurable and 209 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: so fascinating. And I've said this before, Colin, I think 210 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,439 Speaker 1: one of the great things about John is that, apart 211 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 1: from the game itself, apart from when we were in 212 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 1: a football world and we would just you know, be 213 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 1: talking at dinner, he was a fascinating man, extremely well read, 214 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: curious about everything, and the greatest, one of the greatest 215 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: conversations I've had with John had nothing to do with football. 216 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: I mean, he was a true renaissance man, and I 217 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: loved in the documentary. I saw a clip of it 218 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: and he said he had never thought about broadcasting, and 219 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: then the minute he did it, He's like he used 220 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: to call all of us hair dues, and then the 221 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: minute he did it, he knew it was perfect for him. 222 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 1: So for a lot of people, Al you and I 223 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 1: remember him coaching, and I can remember, like Jerry Tarkanian, 224 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 1: it was the short sleeve dress shirt, you know, kind 225 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 1: of ill fitting. If I said to somebody, do you 226 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: remember his coaching style? Do you if I said, hey, 227 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 1: what was like Eric Corriel, Bill Walsh? What was because 228 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily I remember him as a big flamboyant 229 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: personality on the sideline yelling at referees. What was his 230 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: coaching style? Do you recall, Well, it was pretty much 231 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: what the Raiders style was too, you know, go vertical. 232 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: And he had Kenny Stabler as his quarterback for the 233 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: most part through those years. And they had a lot 234 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: of speed, Clip Ranch and the rest. And they were 235 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: a physical team. They had neither of them at two 236 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: sacks and the lungs and the guys who could you know, 237 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:01,199 Speaker 1: could beach up basically, and so they were physical. They 238 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: were exciting the Raiders in those years. I would say, 239 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: I would describe their games as exciting. They played not 240 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: only winning football, but unbelievably entertaining football. And you go 241 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: back through some of the games that John coached and 242 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: those are some of the most memorable games in the 243 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: history of the National Football League, including of course to 244 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: the Frank o'harris cash no catch, which of course John 245 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: has to live on the other side of. But he 246 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: was a guy and you know, so funny you talked about, 247 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: you know, Jerry Tarkanian and maybe the short sleeve dresser 248 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: with John to me when I pictured him on the sidelines, 249 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: John was always he had a one of those paper 250 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: credentials tied to his belt loop, as if he needed 251 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: a credential to get into the Oakland Coliseum right, but 252 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: I love it. There was John larger than life, a 253 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: guy who's going to go to the Hall of Fame 254 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: as a coach, and he's got that little credential dangling 255 00:14:56,360 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: from his belt loop. He was special. 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We're gonna one 280 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: hundred gab dot in West Virginia or called one eight 281 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: hundred next step or text next step to five three 282 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: four two Arizona. You'll be doing a Super Bowl this year, 283 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: Another super Bowl? Correct. And it's funny about these Super Bowls. 284 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: They'll halftimes get longer, Uh, the broadcast day gets longer. 285 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: But I think by and large, the league has done 286 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: a really good job. Altoah's understand their sport is a 287 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: television show, and I don't think other sports have necessarily 288 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: understood that. The media critics in America, and maybe it's 289 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: because print people by nature don't love big and powerful 290 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: people have hammered Goodell a lot, although I find him 291 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: much more personable than Tagliaboo, who was more the accountant, 292 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 1: very dry. You know, you've watched all these sports grow 293 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 1: over the course of your life. You've seen some like 294 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 1: boxing and baseball don't have the social currency, the water 295 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 1: cooler currency they used to when give me the moment, 296 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: you believe that football surpassed baseball in your mind in 297 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: America because as a kid growing up, it was seventy 298 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 1: five Cincinnati Reds, Garvey's Dodgers. It felt like to me, 299 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: as a kid in rural America, baseball was king. Did 300 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 1: it change for you at a certain time. It's a good, 301 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: great question, and I don't think it changed overnight. I 302 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: could feel it starting to happen in the seventies for 303 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 1: whatever reason, all of a sudden, you know, you stopped 304 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: doing the backouts and people in those cities could watch 305 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: the games. I think by the early eighties it became 306 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: a football I think that's where football probably surpassed baseball. 307 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: I think part of it, too, is the technology football 308 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 1: televises so beautifully. I mean, you know, all sports do 309 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: right now, but you are in places that you couldn't 310 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: imagine being in years ago. I mean with that camera 311 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 1: hovering above, you know, behind the offense, with the sideline cameras, 312 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 1: with the close ups, with you know, four K and 313 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: and digital. I mean, I've just watched the involvement of 314 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: this and every sport is now televised better and in 315 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: a sense more beautifully. But football is made for television, 316 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: just made for TV. And I remember having a discussion 317 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 1: with Jimmy Johnson at that time. I was coaching I 318 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: think Miami, and we were in some cold weather city. 319 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 1: Miami was on the road and I was doing Monday 320 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: Night and Jimmy and I are down the field just 321 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: yacking a little bit an hour or so before the game, 322 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: and we looked up into the like the upper deck 323 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: in the end zone on a really cold and really 324 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: bitter night, and try to figure out why would anybody 325 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 1: choose to sit up there when they could sit at home, 326 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 1: you know, and have a tot chalk bit or whatever 327 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: and watch the game on television. And Jimmy had a 328 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: great line. I'll never forget if he was Describing the 329 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: difference between television and being there, he said, you know, 330 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: on television, TV can make a four yard game look 331 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 1: like armaged. If you're sitting up there, a four yard 332 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: game is a four yard game. It's as simple as that. 333 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: And it's so true because if you're sitting, you know, 334 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: in the upper deck in the end zone, what do 335 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 1: you see. I mean, there's a there's a runover right 336 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 1: tackle four yards. But at home you can see so 337 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: many different aspects of that game, and you're you're, you're me. 338 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 1: The intertwining of that game with the commentary and what's 339 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: happening and just the tapestry of the game is so 340 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: different at home than it is in the stadium. So 341 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: I think that had a lot to do with it. 342 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: As I say, you know, baseball televised beautifully these days too, 343 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 1: but football is the king, and I think a lot 344 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: of it has to do with the fact it is 345 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 1: the perfect television sport. You know, so much has been made. 346 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: I mean, you've had just this incredible career and now 347 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: it's going to be extended. Now I don't keep up necessarily, 348 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: I should do a better job of this. On the trades. 349 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 1: You are going to be I'm hearing rumors about Thursday 350 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: Night Football. Is that done officially? No, it's not done. 351 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: I mean it's I know what's out there is. My 352 00:20:53,760 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: deal ends after the super Bowl in February, and NBC 353 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 1: is going to be very involved in the production of 354 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: the Thursday night games, at least initially, so there's a 355 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: little bit of a blending there. So I don't know 356 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 1: exactly what's going to happen. And I've been able to 357 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,479 Speaker 1: this year. Colin really kept it over on the side 358 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: because I'm enjoying this year so much. The games have 359 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 1: been great. Love the people I work with, just love 360 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: them to death, the greatest true ever and I'm so fortunate. 361 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 1: And if you begin to think about other stuff, I 362 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,360 Speaker 1: think it takes away from the joy of what's what's 363 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: going on at this point. And I you know, I 364 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 1: hear people like Aaron Rodgers talking about savoring the moments 365 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: and you saving them when they happen. And I want 366 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 1: to enjoy this year. And we've got the super Bowl 367 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: coming up, and we're doing two other playoff games and 368 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:55,479 Speaker 1: Week eighteen. There's so much too that's happened this year 369 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 1: and look forward to that. If I start to drift 370 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 1: over to what will happen next year. I don't want 371 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 1: to go there. I will say this. I love doing 372 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: this and I have no intention not to be doing 373 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: football next year. I do want to do it. Yeah, 374 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: well you do a pretty good job. Yeah, let's just 375 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: say that. I think you're pretty good at the whole 376 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: damn thing. So Musburger told me this once. So I 377 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: was in the back of a car we were getting 378 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 1: driven to an event we were doing together for Toyota. 379 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 1: If I recall, and you know, Brent, like you when 380 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: you hear a broadcaster and then you sit next to 381 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: him in a car you're at dinner with them, you know, 382 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: it's really funny. And I could hear Brent three feet 383 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,360 Speaker 1: from me. I just was waiting for him to say, 384 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 1: you're looking live at the steering wheel. He's you know, 385 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: And I asked him. I said, Jesus, Brent, you're doing 386 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: You live in Billings or something. You got a game 387 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: in Madison, Wisconsin. Do you ever just look at your 388 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 1: schedule and it's just overwhelming? He goes, Colin the next 389 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: game is the only game I know. And I thought, 390 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 1: that's the way to do it. Don't look at my schedule, 391 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:06,360 Speaker 1: what's the next day I'm broadcasting, And that's very much 392 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: what I'm thinking about in terms of this year. I 393 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: want to just soak all of the pleasure I can 394 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: out of this year. Next year will be next year. 395 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:18,439 Speaker 1: As I say, you know, God willing, I say healthy. 396 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 1: I love what I do, and if the brain continues 397 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 1: to work in some semblance to you know of normalcy, yeah, 398 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: I do want to do it. I love doing it. 399 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 1: I really I've always loved sports. I've been a sports fantasy. 400 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 1: I was my father walking into Hemisphere when I was 401 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: six years old, and you know, I've never lost my 402 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: love and passion for sports ever. I bet you you 403 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 1: know the players that played in that game, because I 404 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 1: remember my first Mariner game with Frank Tanana on the mound. 405 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: I can recite from Danny Meyer at first, Julio Cruz, 406 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 1: Craig Reynolds, Bill Stein, Bob Stinson, Diego Sigge Lee, Stanton 407 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 1: Rupert two p Joe in Center from the Tigers. I 408 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 1: bet you can recite every player in your first baseball game. 409 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:09,239 Speaker 1: So my first major league game was when I went 410 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 1: to Cincinnati in nineteen seventy one and we opened up 411 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 1: with Atlanta, and in those years, Cincinnati was given the 412 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 1: opportunity to open up the season by themselves on a 413 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: Monday as a standalone game because they were the oldest franchise, 414 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 1: so its Riverfront Stadium. I cannot believe them in the 415 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,120 Speaker 1: Major League. My kid in my mid twenties came over 416 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: from Hawaii. You know, the town is looking at like, 417 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: what the hell is this? If they hired some kid 418 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 1: from Honolulu to do one, did he come up with 419 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: a layer around his neck? So the first batter in 420 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: the game, first of all, the picture for the redg 421 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: is Gary Nolan, who was a very good picture. Remember 422 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: the first batter. The first batter is Sonny Jackson, and 423 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 1: Sonny Jackson was playing a short stop. The second matter 424 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 1: was Ralph Garry who had one who had win two 425 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 1: batting titles. And the third man up was a guy 426 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: by the name of Henry Aaron. So it's a one 427 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: two three inning. He's the third third guy in my 428 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: career that I called the Reds come up. Uh. Phil 429 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: nekro is on the mound for Atlanta, so he would 430 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 1: go to the Hall of Fame. Pete Rose leaves off 431 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 1: for us, Tommy Helms batscheking, Johnny bench third. Where do 432 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: you go from there? There you go, that's your first inning. 433 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 1: And by the way, Tony pereises him the game, it's 434 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: the year before Joe Morgan would come. He wasn't, but 435 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: Sparky Anderson is the manager. He goes to the Hall 436 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: of Fame. Um, we had David Concepcion and people like 437 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: that as part of that team. But what a thrill 438 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: that was. That was just phenomenal. And I remember Sonny 439 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: Jackson let off and he hit a ground wall of 440 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: the hole on the right side between our first baseman, 441 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: Lee May and Helms it's playing second base, and Tommy 442 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: went to the whole, wheeled around, threw him out. I said, 443 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 1: you know, one pitch, one great play. That was my 444 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: opening call of the first the first batter that that 445 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 1: I called back in nineteen seventy one. Oh, that's remarkable, 446 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 1: you know, those are those are moments. Some of those 447 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: are lifetime moments that you cherish, you think back into 448 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 1: you those are hard to forget. Really, here's something as 449 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: a broadcaster that I think about. This is so odd 450 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: and in your years of listening to me, I'm sure 451 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: you've never thought, how does Colin get home after the show. 452 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: But I've thought about this with al Michaels. I think 453 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: he's not going to a hotel. He's getting on a 454 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: plane and flying home. What do you do when the 455 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: game is over? Do you come home that night? Not 456 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,360 Speaker 1: from the Eastern or Central time zones, It's just it's 457 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 1: too late, you know, I'm doing a night game. I mean, 458 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: if I was doing a day game, yeah, uh no, 459 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,880 Speaker 1: it's on the West coast or the Mountain time zone. 460 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: We do a rare game in the mount time somebody's Denver, 461 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: you know, Phoenix before the time change. Yes, but I've 462 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: always tried to do that. You know, I've been I 463 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 1: married the right girl, been married for over fifty years. 464 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,120 Speaker 1: And I think one of the reasons that it really 465 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: worked is that even in my years at ABC, when 466 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: I was doing wide world of sports and college football 467 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: and a whole bunch of stuff, I would make it 468 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: a point to get home as fast as I could. 469 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 1: I felt it was very important, and I think my 470 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: wife did too. And you know it, for what it's worth, 471 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 1: here we are, you know, going down the path, and 472 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: it's been a long long time, and I found the right, 473 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: as I said, found the right girl, and you can't 474 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: get any luckier than that if I could. Where you 475 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: meet her tenth grade, Hamilton High School, Los Angeles. I 476 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 1: grew up in New York. We moved here when I 477 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 1: was in the tenth grade, and she was in a 478 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: class with me in a time, and we became friend. 479 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: We weren't sweethearts, we were pals. And we had a 480 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: whole collection of friends and we always hung out together. 481 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 1: And my house was kind of the clubhouse because my 482 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: mother was a combination of Phyllis Diller and Joan Rivers. 483 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: My mother was the character of characters. And all of 484 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,439 Speaker 1: the kids loved to come to my house, and Linda 485 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: was among most kids. And then we were like eighteen 486 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 1: and we were both in college and I went to 487 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 1: Arizona State. She went to cal State Northridge, and we 488 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 1: had I came back into town. I said, why don't 489 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: we go to a game or movie? I can't remember 490 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: what it was, you know, the good night little smooge 491 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: became like a real smoog, Like you know, it's like whoah. 492 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: We kind of moved over a barrier here and it 493 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: was like so and off we went. We got married 494 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,239 Speaker 1: and here we are where's Hamilton High and l at 495 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: that time? Where is Hambledon Robertson. Yeah, it's the same place. 496 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 1: It's Robertson of the ten Freeway. Same is They're still there, 497 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: still there. Yeah, you know, I say this all the time. 498 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: People complain about California and listen, our tax rate is 499 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: remarkably high. It is, but it's got Mediterranean weather and 500 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: a nice breeze and I don't like winter. And you 501 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: know it's it's funny you didn't used to. I can 502 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 1: remember as a kid growing up in the Pacific Northwest, 503 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: people hated Californians because they'd move up and housing prices 504 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: would go up because Californians are big consumers. They had 505 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: good money, and they'd come and they'd buy all the 506 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: nice Washington state homes, right. And I can remember my 507 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: Stepdad's like, oh, Californians of the pits. But I one 508 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: of the things is a kid growing up in the 509 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: Northwest I was. I grew up with Washington Huskies, Don 510 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 1: James teams, and I love USC. I was never threatened 511 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: by Cali Fia was fascinated by the Lakers. I can 512 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: remember Elmore Smith and Don Ford and Happy Harriston. I 513 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 1: loved the Lakers. To me, I couldn't afford Disneyland. We 514 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: didn't fly as kids. Why have you remained in California 515 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: because you're from here? You could have left. You could 516 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: live right in the middle of the country. It'd be 517 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: much easier. Al why have you remained here? Well, I 518 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 1: moved here when I was fourteen, liked it a lot. 519 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: I went to Arizona, statement back and forth, and then 520 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: Lynda and I got married here and I started my 521 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: career a year and a half later. After we got 522 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: married in Hawaii, lived there for three years, lived in 523 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: Cincinnati for three years, lived in the San Francisco Bay 524 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 1: area for twelve years, even though I only did the 525 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 1: Giants for three went to ABC, and we continue continue 526 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: to live in Menlo Park and our kids were raised there. 527 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 1: Then we moved back in eighty six. We were kind of, like, 528 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: you know, approaching a little bit of the midlife thing. 529 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: And my father had died just before that, and his 530 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: mother had died, so we had the surviving parents and 531 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 1: both of our and all of our siblings were here 532 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 1: and other relatives, and we decided to move back to 533 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: la And now we moved back here and frankly a colin. 534 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 1: We've lived in the same house for thirty six years. 535 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: Part of the reason is when we think about moving, 536 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: and we've thought about it from time to time, getting 537 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: a biggerhouse, better house, what have you. The thought of 538 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 1: having to go through all of my junk and collecting 539 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 1: it is so anathematic that we have continued to live 540 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: in the same place for thirty six years and we 541 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: have no plans to move because the junk pile has 542 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: just increased like fiftyfold. Do you have a piece of 543 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: sports memorabilia that I would be surprised you have? Oh, 544 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: probably not. I mean, I've got some memorabilia, but nothing 545 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: that would really stand out. I mean, I had a 546 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 1: collection of sports illustrateds for about twenty five years. They 547 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: were in the house, but my wife moved those to 548 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 1: public storage. So they're there, but they're no longer in 549 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: the house. We had to make some room and so 550 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 1: I had to give up the sports illustrated in the house. 551 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 1: But if I want to get down to public storage, 552 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: if you want to come down down with me someday, 553 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: we'll we'll go through the files and go through about 554 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 1: five hundred sports illustrated Well, I'm not the only person 555 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 1: that had that. By the way, I owe us the 556 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: great part about my stack, which my mom moved to 557 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: the garage at some point, as I would keep a 558 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 1: playboy right in the middle of it in my teen years. Hey, 559 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: but of course you do what you do, right, you know. 560 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 1: As we wrapped this up, I'm not jealous of much 561 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: like I'm glad I chose the career path I started 562 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 1: in play by play, I went to local TV. I 563 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: ended up an opinion, and I think it fits my personality. 564 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: And I've been to every sporting event except the Kentucky 565 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: Derby that I've won too. But I was trying to 566 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 1: explain to somebody the other day. I said, there's one 567 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 1: moment in my life that I would love for somebody 568 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: to explain to me that I wish I was there 569 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: and you were. And I remember watching the thirty for 570 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: thirty from the Russian perspective on Miracle on Ice and 571 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 1: Russian players saying, and this was a hearty group saying 572 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 1: we were scared and we know about your call with 573 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: you and Ken Dryden take me to the environment an 574 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: hour before, an hour and a half before. Is it 575 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: unique in your experience because it's a fairly small venue. 576 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: Is it in all your NBA finals, in all your games, 577 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: did it feel unique as a moment in time. Well, 578 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 1: you have to start before the Olympics. What did you expect, 579 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 1: And the expectation was that the US team, if everything 580 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 1: worked pretty well, would win a bronze medal. The Soviets 581 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 1: were the best team in the world bar none, that 582 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: Czechoslovakian team before that country broke up. Czechoslovakia number two clearly. 583 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:29,760 Speaker 1: Three would be US, Finland, Sweden, Canada, Germany possibly Okay, 584 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:35,359 Speaker 1: So the best case scenario was bronze. When I got 585 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 1: the assignment, I was pretty happy about it because I 586 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 1: actually wanted I wanted speed skating because Eric Hayden was 587 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 1: expected to win five gold medals and he did, and 588 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 1: that would have been I thought that was the premium event. 589 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 1: I know, I wasn't going to get alpine skiing because 590 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 1: Bobby Attie and Frank Kifford loved the Aprey ski scene 591 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: and they were friends with the book, so that was out. 592 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 1: So hockey. I actually I loved hockey as a kid 593 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: growing up in New York, and I was the one 594 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: guy on that staff, which included Keith Jackson, Frankief for 595 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:11,839 Speaker 1: Jim McKay, Howard Cosell, Chris Shankom. I knew what all 596 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,399 Speaker 1: side of icing was, and I was the only guy 597 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 1: who'd ever done a hockey game. I had done one. 598 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 1: So I get the assignment, and I'm happy about one thing. 599 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 1: At the Winter Olympics. It's always good to have an 600 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,359 Speaker 1: indoor venue, right, I don't need a Parker. I can 601 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 1: go to work at a Blazer. Now. The hotel in 602 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 1: Lake Placid was maybe four blocks from the arena. So 603 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: when the whole one, it starts the US team on 604 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: open the night before the actual opening ceremony. The US team, 605 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,359 Speaker 1: with thirty seconds to go in the game, winds up 606 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,399 Speaker 1: with a tie against Sweden. Bill Baker scores a goal, 607 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 1: and it's like whoa, whoa, that's that's pretty good. That's 608 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 1: not a bad startse Sweden was perceiving to be a 609 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 1: little bit better than we were. Now you get to 610 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 1: the second game, we're playing in Czechoslovakia, and we killed them. 611 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 1: So it's like a second, what's happening here? US went 612 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:07,359 Speaker 1: seven to three. Now they go they beat Norway, they 613 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 1: beat the Romania, they beat Germany. So now they get 614 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 1: to the medal round, and it's like, Okay, they're gonna 615 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: play the Soviets, but they're gonna get killed. And Ken 616 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 1: Dryden I had We've been to the Soviet Union. We 617 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 1: had watched that Soviet team play six or seven games. 618 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 1: We'd watch them in the Olympics. They just toyed with teams. 619 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 1: And the conversation that Kenny and I had as we 620 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,840 Speaker 1: walked to the arena probably about two o'clock in the afternoon, 621 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:35,839 Speaker 1: eas the game started five, so who are walking over 622 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 1: to the arena? And I remember saying to Dryden, you know, 623 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 1: if it's only like three one midway through the second period, 624 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,439 Speaker 1: it sounds close enough to keep an audience for a while. 625 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 1: So now the US falls behind quickly one a nothing 626 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 1: look out tie the game, fall behind two one. Mark 627 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 1: Johnson gets the goal at the horn at the end 628 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 1: of the first period, like whoa. The second period is 629 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 1: dominated by the Soviets. So now it's it's three two, 630 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 1: so we're in the game. So this is much better 631 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,399 Speaker 1: than anybody anticipated. And then of course when the US 632 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 1: ties the game three three and then Erusione scores with 633 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 1: ten minutes to go, that was just insanity. And I 634 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 1: remember thinking I just had to stay in the game, 635 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 1: to stay in the moment, because now the crowd is 636 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 1: going crazy and we're on like a ramshackle platform in 637 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 1: the front of it would be the second level of balcony, 638 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:38,360 Speaker 1: small arena like seven or eight thousand seas and it's shaking, 639 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 1: it's going back and forth and up. And now because 640 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 1: there's there's so much stopping of feet and screaming, and 641 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 1: of course the truck is going crazy too. I got 642 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,800 Speaker 1: the producer in my ears screaming his guts out at me, 643 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,799 Speaker 1: and all I'm thinking about his pan like a horse 644 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,240 Speaker 1: with blinkers straight ahead. Called a game, coldy m Colim 645 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 1: cold a game, and I'm doing it. And now I'm 646 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 1: thinking us as a four three lead. I mean, whoa. 647 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,799 Speaker 1: And now you want the clock to get to zero. 648 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 1: But it's it's the clock looks like it's in quicksand 649 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 1: you keep looking up at the clock. You know, the 650 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,319 Speaker 1: clock is like six minutes and twelve seconds. Next time 651 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 1: you look up, you're hoping it's like four minutes, but 652 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,319 Speaker 1: it's like six or two. So I mean, look't gone by. 653 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,839 Speaker 1: And so now it goes down to the end. Jim 654 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,480 Speaker 1: Craig's making some great saves the US team. I mean, 655 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:30,400 Speaker 1: it's phenomenal with Craig the US goalie. And as the 656 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,800 Speaker 1: game is coming to its conclusion, people said to me, 657 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,920 Speaker 1: is that did you think about that? They think about it? 658 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 1: I thought that the Soviets would win the game ten two. 659 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 1: The puck came out the center ice with about you know, 660 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 1: five seconds to go, and there was no time for 661 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 1: the Soviets amount a new attack. And the word that 662 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:52,719 Speaker 1: came into my head was miraculous, miraculous, And somehow it 663 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:57,759 Speaker 1: got morphed into a question and an answer and then 664 00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 1: I just let it play for the next forty five 665 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,719 Speaker 1: to sixty seconds, I guess. So the reality of it 666 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:08,799 Speaker 1: is Colin that I didn't know exactly what I had said, well, 667 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 1: what the words that came out were from my heart. 668 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 1: It was like, this is so great. This is a miracle. 669 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 1: You know, it's a sports miracle. It's not a miracle miracle, 670 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So when I said that, 671 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 1: that's that was like the ten year old of me 672 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,360 Speaker 1: coming out That had nothing to do with a preordain 673 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 1: or thought about mummies. If you think about what you're 674 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,480 Speaker 1: going to say, it sounds scripted. So hey, listen, I 675 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 1: got lucky because that was one moment in time. It 676 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,239 Speaker 1: was the greatest thing. You know, it's the pinnacle of 677 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 1: my career in the sense that nothing will ever supplant 678 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,439 Speaker 1: that for a moment, and you know, it's it's it's 679 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 1: nice to be able to live with that as opposed 680 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:51,719 Speaker 1: to screw it up and having to live with that 681 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 1: for forty years. Did you did you know within twenty 682 00:39:56,040 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 1: four hours? It was iconic the call? I did not 683 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:07,319 Speaker 1: not at all, because you don't know how long things last. 684 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,320 Speaker 1: You don't know if things have as they say legs. 685 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,719 Speaker 1: I didn't. In fact, I wasn't sure exactly what I 686 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 1: had said. So the game is right, the game is 687 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 1: its on tape, so dryden I we had to stay 688 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,399 Speaker 1: and do the eight o'clock game Sweden Finland in case 689 00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,719 Speaker 1: the tape machine broke. So everybody else is back at 690 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 1: the hotel, and when I wanted to the hotel and 691 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,400 Speaker 1: everyone's in the bar, like eleven fifteen, we were finally 692 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,800 Speaker 1: done for the night, and everybody's celebrated and excited, and 693 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 1: everybody would come up to me at the end and go, 694 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 1: oh my god, that was great. Way I'm thinking, yeah, 695 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,920 Speaker 1: I kind of think I remember saying something about a miracle, 696 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,799 Speaker 1: but I had no idea what they were really talking 697 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,000 Speaker 1: about until they kept playing it back to me obviously 698 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,799 Speaker 1: at that point and I thought, well, I think, yeah, 699 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 1: I guess that's one way to put it. But yeah, 700 00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 1: so so Colin. The thing you have to remember, too, 701 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 1: is that if you're doing a Super Bowl or another game, 702 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:08,480 Speaker 1: you can't say something like that because you know the 703 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 1: crowd is half here, half there. There's a certain percent 704 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 1: is rooting, you know, for one team in percentage. This 705 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 1: was the one time, the one time when ninety nine 706 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,200 Speaker 1: point nine nine percent of your audience is going one 707 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,839 Speaker 1: way and the only the only people going the other 708 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 1: way are KGB agents. Yes, somewhere Alexander salts and meats 709 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 1: and was pissed off right exactly. And just one other 710 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,280 Speaker 1: addendum to that, Bob Verdi, who wrote for the Chicago 711 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,960 Speaker 1: Tribute and had one of the great leads of all time. 712 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 1: And then eighty four Olympics. Fast forward, we go to 713 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 1: Saraye Will Hugoslavia. ABC puts a lot of eggs in 714 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 1: the hockey basket, thinking, you know, can they do it again? 715 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,400 Speaker 1: Not that you could have ever recreated that to begin with. 716 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,239 Speaker 1: But we go there and the first game for the 717 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 1: US team is against Canada and they lose like five 718 00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:02,759 Speaker 1: to two. I'm warning the Chicago Tribune. His lead the 719 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 1: next day was Dave Line Sarajevo, do you believe in 720 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 1: the buckles? Lass? And we end it with that. Al, 721 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,320 Speaker 1: my friend, great seeing You're great talking to you again, 722 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,360 Speaker 1: and I hope you had a good round today at 723 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,800 Speaker 1: bel Air. Take carey, Boddy. I didn't, but this was 724 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,400 Speaker 1: a lot of fun any time, dol you got all right? 725 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:29,560 Speaker 1: Thank you? All right, my friend Al Michaels, who does 726 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,520 Speaker 1: just live around the corner. I hope you enjoyed it. 727 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 1: Go to our YouTube channel, The Volume Sports. Go to Instagram, 728 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,279 Speaker 1: rate review, subscribe Twitter at the Volume of Sports. We 729 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:45,319 Speaker 1: love what we're doing here, long form interviews, cocktails never 730 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 1: gets old. Man, Thanks for supporting us. You have great 731 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,759 Speaker 1: happy holidays, going forward to great time of the year. 732 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:06,040 Speaker 1: The Volume