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Speaker 1: going to talk to NHL Network former NHL goaltender Kevin Weeks,
Speaker 1: African American who wanted to come on talk about Black
Speaker 1: lives matter and what it was like when he was
Speaker 1: playing goalie in the National Hockey League. I think he
Speaker 1: played eleven years for four or five teams. And Kevin
Speaker 1: Weeks will join us, coming up at about fifteen minutes
Speaker 1: eight seven seven three DP show email address, DP at
Speaker 1: Dan Patrick dot com, Twitter handed a TP show. Adrian
Speaker 1: Wojnarowski laid out some details on NBA players who are
Speaker 1: hesitant about being quarantined in Orlando. I'm shocked that it's
Speaker 1: coming out now because it feels like we've had about
Speaker 1: ten days where we were making progress. We had target dates,
Speaker 1: we had the playoffs when they'll start, how many teams
Speaker 1: are going to be involved, felt like we had some
Speaker 1: things set in stone. At no point did I ever
Speaker 1: hear there's some guys who aren't quite sure if they
Speaker 1: want to come back. That's changed. Players are citing a
Speaker 1: number of concerns according to woas, including family situations, the
Speaker 1: inability to leave the Disney World Resort campus, the coronavirus,
Speaker 1: the implication surrounding the emergence of social justice causes in
Speaker 1: the country. This according to sources, participants in Orlando, including players,
Speaker 1: will not be allowed to leave the bubble environment without
Speaker 1: a ten day quarantine upon their return to the Disney grounds.
Speaker 1: Players with medical issues that might put them in high
Speaker 1: risk categories could seek an independent examination to learn whether
Speaker 1: they would be excused from participation. If you are not
Speaker 1: given that medical exemption, you don't get paid. But players
Speaker 1: who are on the teams that didn't qualify to go
Speaker 1: to Orlando do get paid. There's still a lot here
Speaker 1: to unpack. The NBA also is going to have a
Speaker 1: panel that looks at medical records. There's gonna be privacy issues.
Speaker 1: Just feels like this isn't is buttoned up as we thought.
Speaker 1: And that's why when mc CLUBN goes who comes back first,
Speaker 1: baseball or the NBA, and I immediately went, well, of
Speaker 1: course the NBA. And then the more I thought of
Speaker 1: it is it might be the NBA is going to
Speaker 1: come back after baseball. Yeah, MCCLUBN. But isn't this NBA
Speaker 1: schedule supposed to be set? I mean, but it is.
Speaker 1: It is. But I still think baseball has a chance
Speaker 1: to get back before then. And the commissioner came out
Speaker 1: yesterday and said, guarantee it one percent. We're gonna have
Speaker 1: a baseball season. That means, worst case scenario, we have
Speaker 1: fifty games. When do you start fifty games? Are you
Speaker 1: going to be able to go all the way into
Speaker 1: August and then start because they want to be done
Speaker 1: by the end of October. They do not want to
Speaker 1: dip into November. They're worried about going against the NFL,
Speaker 1: and they're worried about a second wave of the coronavirus.
Speaker 1: These are things that they privately discussed the owners have.
Speaker 1: If the commissioner comes in and bigfoots everybody says fifty games,
Speaker 1: let's go, is everybody going to be rushing back? These
Speaker 1: players are not going to be accommodating with these owners
Speaker 1: just not going to be And then I wonder can
Speaker 1: baseball get back in time? I still go back to
Speaker 1: what I mentioned a couple of months ago, and I
Speaker 1: brought it up again in the first hour, and that
Speaker 1: is it would be wonderful if Baseball could come back.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's a Kumbaya moment, but you have your All
Speaker 1: Star game to start your season, kind of like Daytona
Speaker 1: starts NASCAR, the Daytona five hundred starts NASCAR season. If
Speaker 1: you had an All Star game and you just showcased
Speaker 1: your best players, reintroduce them to America, how about you
Speaker 1: a handout free tickets now straight A students? You know?
Speaker 1: Can you can you have fans come back? There's no
Speaker 1: home if you know, home field advantage for the World Series, nothing,
Speaker 1: nothing like that. Can you do something special? And I
Speaker 1: don't know what it is, but that's what I would
Speaker 1: hope Baseball would do. And I was told Baseball this
Speaker 1: was a proposal that was on the table a couple
Speaker 1: of months ago, July fourth, Los Angeles, and I was
Speaker 1: told specifically Mike Trout and Cody Bellinger would pick teams
Speaker 1: and they would have an All Star Game. Can you
Speaker 1: do it? Would the players be willing to do it?
Speaker 1: That's the key? And right now, these players are not
Speaker 1: going to do anything more than what they're being paid
Speaker 1: to do. Hey, you want us to help with a
Speaker 1: home run derby? Noah All Star Game? No? You want
Speaker 1: us miked up. No, they're not going to do anything
Speaker 1: pace of play now, and that's where it could get
Speaker 1: really ugly. You hope the product we see is representative
Speaker 1: of what baseball should be, and I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's going to be all right. Uh some phone calls here,
Speaker 1: Greg and Illinois joins us. Hi, Greg, what do you
Speaker 1: have for me? Hey? Dan, Cody and Tennessee was great,
Speaker 1: It's awesome. I love I love how the type of
Speaker 1: car you get is equal to your importance to the university.
Speaker 1: That explains why I always had to ride my bike
Speaker 1: to climb that. A quick question for you, do you
Speaker 1: think do you think there's a big enough name coach
Speaker 1: or program that could get caught that would cause the
Speaker 1: NCAA to change its rules, like maybe Alabama football for example. Well,
Speaker 1: what do you mean by changing its rules? Just the
Speaker 1: type of just sort of behind the scene stuff that
Speaker 1: goes on with the benefits that people are receiving. Maybe
Speaker 1: they find a way to make that more in the clear.
Speaker 1: I don't know how you do it. And you know
Speaker 1: with football you have to go for three years. And
Speaker 1: thank you for the phone call. Greg. Always great to
Speaker 1: hear from you. Basketball, You're there for what six months,
Speaker 1: eight months, and then you're done. It's easier to have
Speaker 1: you almost like a turnstyle, come on in, here you go,
Speaker 1: here's your keys, here's your money. If that's the case,
Speaker 1: and not everybody gets that, But if you're going to
Speaker 1: do a football program, it's different. It's three years. You
Speaker 1: may be really highly recruited when you get there as
Speaker 1: a freshman. By the time you're a junior, you may
Speaker 1: be a backup. And if you're looking at pay scale
Speaker 1: and what can I give you? Can I give you
Speaker 1: minimum wage? Here? There's always going to be outliers who
Speaker 1: are going to give somebody something more, and certainly that'll
Speaker 1: happen in college football basketball. If you take away the
Speaker 1: one and done, are you then going to go to
Speaker 1: the secondary stars, the guys who might be a three
Speaker 1: star or maybe a four star, who will go for
Speaker 1: two years and then you take care of them because
Speaker 1: you're still going to have value. In college basketball, we
Speaker 1: may not have the marquee names, but you'll still have
Speaker 1: a good product on the floor. We just won't have
Speaker 1: the tune in factor that you would normally have where
Speaker 1: tune in to sees Ion Williamson. It might be somebody
Speaker 1: who is a good player, maybe a really good high
Speaker 1: school player, and a good player in college, and you
Speaker 1: might have more balanced teams in college basketball because nobody's
Speaker 1: getting that star, or you might get somebody who slips
Speaker 1: through the cracks and they stay two years, or they
Speaker 1: develop into a really good player. In basketball, it's almost
Speaker 1: like what I see when you get into college or
Speaker 1: your first year in the NBA, Like that's who I'm
Speaker 1: looking at, That's who you are. Football, that's not the case.
Speaker 1: It feels like you're more of a finished product in basketball,
Speaker 1: even though you're not. We see your greatness right away.
Speaker 1: You don't always see that with college football. You don't
Speaker 1: see that with baseball as well, but basketball it's just
Speaker 1: a little bit different. I don't know if anything changes
Speaker 1: anytime soon, but I do find it interesting all the
Speaker 1: people making money don't want players to make money. Everybody
Speaker 1: else gets to make it, not the players. We had
Speaker 1: Jay Billis on in the first hour, we've been talking
Speaker 1: about Reggie Bush. Reggie Bush yesterday was on the Herd
Speaker 1: saying that he wants his heisman back, but more importantly,
Speaker 1: he wants younger players to understand what's going on. You know,
Speaker 1: times have changed since two thousand and five with Reggie Bush,
Speaker 1: and he brought down or that scandal brought down the
Speaker 1: USC program and they haven't recovered. But he's saying, I
Speaker 1: want to be able to help, you know, younger players,
Speaker 1: see what I did. I don't think he's getting his
Speaker 1: heisman back. The Heisman Trust has vacated that they asked
Speaker 1: him to ship the heisman back prepaid by the Heisman Trust.
Speaker 1: But here's Jay Billis on the Reggie Bush situation. Do
Speaker 1: you think Reggie Bush should get his Heisman trophy back? Well,
Speaker 1: first of all, yes, I do, but I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't think they vacated. I think he gave them voluntaly
Speaker 1: gave it back, and so he didn't voluntarily give it back.
Speaker 1: I think he did. I think he gave it back
Speaker 1: to the Heisman Trust. I don't think they stripped him
Speaker 1: of it. I think he gave it back. But I
Speaker 1: may be wrong there. But I will tell you that
Speaker 1: if I were in charge at USC, I would retire
Speaker 1: his number immediately, and I would put the heisman that
Speaker 1: they have back in Heritage Hall, and I would put
Speaker 1: his number back, his jersey back in Heritage Hall where
Speaker 1: it was when this whole thing happened, because that whole
Speaker 1: thing was a travesty and it's not a question of
Speaker 1: whether his family took money down to San Diego or whatever.
Speaker 1: That was one of the most corrupt investigations the nc
Speaker 1: double has ever gone through. Paul D, the former athletic
Speaker 1: director Miami, was the chair of the committee. That was
Speaker 1: the harshest sanctions since SMU got the death penalty in
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty eighty six, eighty seven something like that. And
Speaker 1: a year later Miami was in the crosshairs and Paul
Speaker 1: D said, well, I didn't know anything about it. I mean,
Speaker 1: it was the hypocrisy of the highest level. I've never
Speaker 1: seen anything like that. That's Jay billis first hour of
Speaker 1: the program on Loan from the Mothership. Yeah, Reggie Bush
Speaker 1: didn't pay back the money and these agents went public
Speaker 1: and that that created the storm. It brought everybody down.
Speaker 1: But Jay was wrong. He even followed up with Fritzie saying, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe I don't have all the information right
Speaker 1: the Heisman trust. They stripped him and they said we
Speaker 1: want the heisman back. Reggie didn't voluntarily do it, and
Speaker 1: it took him a year to send it back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Pault He mentioned SMU football and how they got busted.
Speaker 1: You have to be really dumb to get busted in
Speaker 1: college athletics. And if you remember, and SMU was dumb,
Speaker 1: SMU was handing out cash payments to players from letterhead
Speaker 1: like you know how they have a stanfre Turn address
Speaker 1: on an envelope like a letterhead from a company. It's
Speaker 1: at SMU Athletic Football department. And the envelope was handed
Speaker 1: the kid and one of the kids who wanted to
Speaker 1: protect himself, kept one of his payments in the envelope
Speaker 1: and it had a note he had the schedule, everything
Speaker 1: like that, and had SME Athletic Department office on the thing.
Speaker 1: There's your pay per trail there is. So they would add,
Speaker 1: we can't find some blank envelopes, Send someone to the
Speaker 1: k and get some blank envelopes. Office depot, get some
Speaker 1: blank envelopes. Oh my god, Jordan in Seattle, Hi, Jordan,
Speaker 1: what do you have for me? Hey? Six to three
Speaker 1: in a COVID two thirty Suck it back row. Hey,
Speaker 1: if your university or your college out there, if anybody's
Speaker 1: out there thinking that it's not happening, it is. I
Speaker 1: was an average Division two player with a lot of
Speaker 1: guys with Division one talent on the team because they
Speaker 1: couldn't go D one because the NCAA clearinghouse wouldn't improve
Speaker 1: them because they'd either grades or typically behavioral issues. So
Speaker 1: you see a lot of guys that are Division two
Speaker 1: teams with Division one talent. But you know, even at
Speaker 1: a Division two school, I knew we had a revolving
Speaker 1: drop top AMG that the captain got every year as
Speaker 1: the other guy left, So every senior captain got the
Speaker 1: same droptop Mercedes convertible essentially, and so it was revolving
Speaker 1: and everybody knew about it, and it was just kind
Speaker 1: of what it was. And did you get anything, Jordan, Well,
Speaker 1: I wasn't that good. I was just I wasn't even
Speaker 1: allowed to dripple. If I caught it, I shot it.
Speaker 1: That was it. But what I got, I was at
Speaker 1: a level little things like hey, I see you have
Speaker 1: a new girlfriend. You have enough money to take her out?
Speaker 1: And it was never money. It was here's a couple
Speaker 1: of movie tickets and a gift certificate to a restaurant.
Speaker 1: That was my level. Right when I knew I was
Speaker 1: in trouble was my junior year. I got the coach
Speaker 1: recruited a shooting guard that all of a sudden had
Speaker 1: a new Harley Davidson, and that's when I knew my
Speaker 1: playing time for JN. Thank you, Jordan. It still sounds
Speaker 1: pained by that. Here's some movie tickets. Meanwhile, the guy
Speaker 1: who's coming to take your job has got to Harley Davidson.
Speaker 1: I remember going to It was late afternoon lunch, but
Speaker 1: I guess it was dinner. And I went with basketball
Speaker 1: players and we went into this Italian restaurant and I
Speaker 1: just remember we sat down and I didn't order much
Speaker 1: because I didn't have any money, and these guys were
Speaker 1: ordering everything on the menu, and I went, damn, these
Speaker 1: guys are hungry. Well we get done and I'm eating
Speaker 1: like a bird, like I'm just nibbling on staff and
Speaker 1: I'm just like that check's coming. And I go, boy,
Speaker 1: if they you know, if this is equal by you know,
Speaker 1: five guys or six guys, and I think it was
Speaker 1: five guys. It went, if they did, you it up,
Speaker 1: I'm in trouble here. Next thing I know, these guys go,
Speaker 1: you're ready. I said, yeah, we gotta pay, and they go, no, no,
Speaker 1: we don't pay, and it got up and left the restaurant,
Speaker 1: and I thought, wow, okay, that's there's no paper trail.
Speaker 1: You went in there, you ate, and there was I
Speaker 1: don't even know if these guys left a tip. Yeah, Todd,
Speaker 1: how bummed are you that you didn't just want a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of stuff? It must have been starving when well,
Speaker 1: have you ever been to dinner and then somebody decides
Speaker 1: to pick it up after you vat and then you go, well,
Speaker 1: I've I have known that I would have ordered the steak,
Speaker 1: I ordered drafts, I would order a bottle of wine. Yeah, McLevin.
Speaker 1: That's how we all learned not to hold back when
Speaker 1: we go to dinner with you. Oh and you guys
Speaker 1: don't don't hold But you know what, in that situation,
Speaker 1: it's always fun because except that one time at the
Speaker 1: Italian dinner club where we thought the food was free, yes,
Speaker 1: because there was no menu, we all went to, Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's get another point, private room, plate, a steak or
Speaker 1: anything or everything. Yeah. So, my my wife is Italian
Speaker 1: and I was able to join the this Italian club
Speaker 1: Tira Senio in New York, and uh, I joined, but
Speaker 1: there's no prices to fix to anything. And I bring
Speaker 1: the dance in. First of all, it looked like our gang.
Speaker 1: It looked like you know, Alfalfa, the spanky. No sport coats,
Speaker 1: you have to wear a sport coat. And I have
Speaker 1: a sport coat on and a tie. And the dan
Speaker 1: AT's come rolling in and I go and you could
Speaker 1: just see the horror the look on the bartender in
Speaker 1: the maitre D's faces, like, oh my god. They sent
Speaker 1: these guys up the back staircase. We had to, you know,
Speaker 1: they had to go up two floors. And then they
Speaker 1: lent these guys old sport coats and we sit down.
Speaker 1: Now there's no prices for wanting nothing, You're just you're
Speaker 1: ordering and uh, I mean we had backroom guys. Uh casey.
Speaker 1: So they're all in there, and next thing I know,
Speaker 1: these guys are just ordering everything and anything. I realized
Speaker 1: it's going to cost me. It's a big ticket item here,
Speaker 1: and I didn't tell my wife and she said, how
Speaker 1: did you spend fifteen hundred dollars? And I go, oh, well,
Speaker 1: I brought the the whole group. What did they order?
Speaker 1: And I said everything? Pretty much? Everything? Hun Yeah, Pulling
Speaker 1: Tierra Sanyo means freeloaders. In Italian. No, no, it doesn't
Speaker 1: shoot straight. Yeah, because they have a shooting gallery in
Speaker 1: the basement. It's called the Italian Gun Club, and they
Speaker 1: actually have a retired police officer who's there and you
Speaker 1: get to shoot twenty two's target practice there. It's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: But Tira Senio ya see, we should go back sometimes? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we should. How about just you and me go back?
Speaker 1: I need to bring everybody. We've already experienced that. All right,
Speaker 1: more phone calls coming up. I wanted to have Kevin
Speaker 1: Weeks on. He's a former NHL goaltender, African American playing
Speaker 1: hockey and now I think he might be the first
Speaker 1: African American analyst broadcaster covering the sport working for the
Speaker 1: NHL Network. And he has some stories about what it
Speaker 1: was like when he was playing, and I wanted to
Speaker 1: give him that opportunity to share those stories. So he'll
Speaker 1: join us. Coming up here eight seven seven three d
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Speaker 1: More phone calls coming up. Tony and Chicago joins us,
Speaker 1: and we'll bring in Kevin Weeks, the former NHL goalie
Speaker 1: NHL Network lead analyst. Hey Tony Dan Jones six foot
Speaker 1: a trigger one five. All right, just finding with the
Speaker 1: Zion Williamson and Reggie Brush connection, how appropriate kind of
Speaker 1: both are as. I think Reggie Bush really represented the
Speaker 1: kind of systematic corruption that's happening in the MC. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: we've been laughing and we've been conditioned accept it so
Speaker 1: much that the thought of Coachataine not knowing about something
Speaker 1: happening in the program to controls top to bottom, I mean,
Speaker 1: we just we just let it pass and assume it
Speaker 1: is just what it is. So just as in society,
Speaker 1: you know, when certain reforms and penalties haven't worked to
Speaker 1: change in curve a corruption and college programs, maybe it's
Speaker 1: time to disband the MC. Now, Maybe the well, and
Speaker 1: that's been mentioned Tony, thank you. I brought that up.
Speaker 1: I wondered if the NCAA was going to be able
Speaker 1: to withstand what's going on with the coronavirus, believe it
Speaker 1: or not. I had some smart people say keep an
Speaker 1: eye on that the NCAA's role. I just think you're
Speaker 1: eventually going to have these Power five conferences be there.
Speaker 1: They're going to be college football, and then you're going
Speaker 1: to have the NCAA evern the rest of these college
Speaker 1: football teams and other sports there as well. Just feels
Speaker 1: like they might secede from the union there. But but
Speaker 1: you know, keep in mind, Reggie Bush didn't get an
Speaker 1: improper benefit from a booster. He got it he signed
Speaker 1: with an agency. He got it from a marketing company.
Speaker 1: He just didn't pay him back. So it wasn't like
Speaker 1: USC said we got to pay him money or a
Speaker 1: booster to get him to go to USC. It just
Speaker 1: didn't have to happen. Zion Williamson, you know you're one
Speaker 1: and done. You forced me to go to college, and
Speaker 1: his parents wanted something allegedly, and he got a hand
Speaker 1: out there. The payout there, I certainly understand that. I
Speaker 1: just want to know. We have to treat Duke the
Speaker 1: way we're treating everybody else. I think that's the only
Speaker 1: way to do it. But we have to be fair
Speaker 1: to the story. Got to be fair to the story
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Speaker 1: we ready for Kevin Weeks? Almost? Almost? Kevin? Can you
Speaker 1: you can hear me? I certainly can Dan. How are you?
Speaker 1: Good morning man? And it's good to have you. Let
Speaker 1: me give you the full introduction here. Eleven year career,
Speaker 1: former goalie, first black analyst in the ninety one years
Speaker 1: of the NHL. And I know you've had some comments
Speaker 1: on what's going on Black lives matter, and I was
Speaker 1: curious in a sport like hockey, just what it was
Speaker 1: like playing on a night in and night out basis
Speaker 1: of what kind of racism that you ran into. Yeah, Dan,
Speaker 1: I think for the listeners and the viewers more importantly,
Speaker 1: hope everybody's safe just to start off there and healthy.
Speaker 1: Of course, our deepest condolences to George Floyd family and others.
Speaker 1: But in saying that, from my own experience, it was
Speaker 1: unique because my parents came from beautiful Barbados in the Caribbean.
Speaker 1: They emigrated to Canada. I was born in Canada. You
Speaker 1: know what hockey means to Canadian people, and right from
Speaker 1: when I was six, I aspired to play in the league.
Speaker 1: First grade, Miss Maher was my teacher. The first book
Speaker 1: I wrote, I sketched the NHL logo on sportboard. My
Speaker 1: parents have it to this day. I had myself and
Speaker 1: goalie equipment and I knew from then that was my
Speaker 1: life school to play in the league. But along the
Speaker 1: way playing youth hockey in Toronto, for the most part
Speaker 1: at that time, everybody treated my family and my sister
Speaker 1: and I well. Once I got to junior as opposed
Speaker 1: to play in US college. Once I got to junior
Speaker 1: in Canada, I started to see a little bit of
Speaker 1: a different vibe from some people because I was climbing
Speaker 1: the ranks, and that happened to be my NHL draft here.
Speaker 1: So for the most part, my teammates were great, but
Speaker 1: some opposing players would say some things like, hey, we
Speaker 1: have there's five brothers that are playing in this game,
Speaker 1: why are we even doing the face off at center rise,
Speaker 1: Let's have a jump ball, you know that type of stuff.
Speaker 1: And then in addition to know, some fans yelling racial
Speaker 1: epithets in the stands where my parents would be there
Speaker 1: and my sister. So that was kind of my first
Speaker 1: kind of encounter with that. And then you know, you
Speaker 1: had some odd knucklehead fans around the league. And there's
Speaker 1: so many great cities that are leagues in but let's
Speaker 1: say Philly. Philly's an awesome sports city just down the
Speaker 1: turnpike from us here. We know that it's a rich history.
Speaker 1: But what's weird is you have some people that are
Speaker 1: charing for iverson Ahi. The answer, that's our guy. We
Speaker 1: love AI, we love Elton Brand. And then the next
Speaker 1: night I'm playing against the Flyers and then some people
Speaker 1: will be yelling racial epithets. So that was part of
Speaker 1: the challenge. But ultimately, Dan, you know, those things are hurtful.
Speaker 1: They show a lack of class on behalf of the
Speaker 1: people that do that. But for me, it was about
Speaker 1: setting my own story, living my dream, taking care of
Speaker 1: my family, playing in the best league in the world,
Speaker 1: and being one of sixty goalies on planet Earth at
Speaker 1: any given time, and sometimes one of one, and being
Speaker 1: the only black one on planet Earth. So I lived
Speaker 1: my dream as a player, and I'm doing it now
Speaker 1: as a broadcast. Did you ever tell management, Yeah, there
Speaker 1: were certain instances where, you know, I played for some
Speaker 1: great managers. I think all told, there's probably fifteen Stanley
Speaker 1: Cup rings between four of the general managers I was
Speaker 1: privileged to play for. And they're not only Hall of famers,
Speaker 1: they're great people. So I've had some really great conversations
Speaker 1: with Glenn Saylor, who was the architect of the Oilers
Speaker 1: during their reign with Gretzky in the eighties. Also great
Speaker 1: Lou Lamrello who ran the Devil's Here, who I played for,
Speaker 1: who's now running the Islanders, just to name a few.
Speaker 1: Commissioner Batman has always been very supportive at a great
Speaker 1: conversation with him in This Morning, Deputy Commissioner Bill Day,
Speaker 1: some of the coaches I played for have been excellent.
Speaker 1: Paul Maurice, John Torchetti, some other ones, but some of
Speaker 1: them were really great around that, especially the aforementioned. They
Speaker 1: were very helpful and they respected me not only as
Speaker 1: a player but also as a person. They respected my
Speaker 1: family and that meant a lot to be still does
Speaker 1: to this day. But when you see bananas thrown on
Speaker 1: the ice, yeah, Kevin, that happened. I mean we see
Speaker 1: this in soccer. It's still going on. Yeah, but you're there,
Speaker 1: and like, how do you react to something like that
Speaker 1: or not react to something like that? You know what?
Speaker 1: That's the thing. That's a great question. I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you why. It's basic as a question, sounds damn You
Speaker 1: capture the essence perfectly. Because we were playing in the
Speaker 1: Stanley Cup playoffs against Montreal in two thousand and two.
Speaker 1: I was with the Carolina Hurricanes and we're in the
Speaker 1: Eastern Conference quarterfinal. And you know the history of the
Speaker 1: Montreal Canadians, that is the New York Yankees in terms
Speaker 1: of wins in prestige, that is Manchester United. And there's
Speaker 1: just something unique about playing in Montreal as there would
Speaker 1: be in playing Madison Square Garden here in New York.
Speaker 1: But we lost that game. I wasn't that we lost
Speaker 1: a game two one in overtime, and after the game
Speaker 1: there was a banana that rained down a fan of
Speaker 1: thrown at me. Now here's what's crazy about this. Now,
Speaker 1: it's two thousand and two, the most prestigious franchise in
Speaker 1: the league. I have family that lives in Montreal, and
Speaker 1: this happens in Montreal. So and we lost the game,
Speaker 1: by the way, let's just add that to it. So
Speaker 1: we get in the locker room. You know, I'm a
Speaker 1: little bit upset about it, of course. I just think
Speaker 1: it's the ultimate human disrespect. And fortunately our PR guy
Speaker 1: at the time, who is still there with the Carolina
Speaker 1: Hurricanes now, Mike Sonheim. I mentioned Jim Rutherford, who was
Speaker 1: our then GM, whos a GM of Pittsburgh, and Paul
Speaker 1: Maurice was our coach who coaches Winnipeg. They couldn't have
Speaker 1: been any nicer, and my teammates couldn't have been any
Speaker 1: more supportive. Now, the other part of your question is
Speaker 1: how did I react. I reacted. I was very patient.
Speaker 1: I was very diplomatic. I was pointed, but I I
Speaker 1: was very diplomatic in how I answered that and how
Speaker 1: I responded to it. And here's the challenge that I
Speaker 1: found with that, And a lot of athletes will tell
Speaker 1: you this, and a lot of people will tell you
Speaker 1: this too. Is the perpetrator. Often they do the act.
Speaker 1: Then number two, they want to govern how you do
Speaker 1: or don't respond, if you can or can't respond. Three
Speaker 1: and four if they choose to like your response or not.
Speaker 1: So that's kind of unfair. You know, it should never
Speaker 1: happen in the first place. I think that's the lowest
Speaker 1: former class. And you nail that. You talked about soccer,
Speaker 1: and I love soccer, I love all sports. I have
Speaker 1: friends in every league around the world. You know, I've
Speaker 1: been as Syria games in Italy twice. But I think
Speaker 1: the biggest challenge and I've seen MLS games here in
Speaker 1: North America, but I think the biggest challenge is all
Speaker 1: the governing bodies have to have a zero tolerance policy
Speaker 1: for fans, employees, and players, and it has to be
Speaker 1: a safe place for everybody in the venue and every
Speaker 1: sporting venue around the world. Talking to Kevin Weeks, who's
Speaker 1: a former NHL goalie spen eleven years in the league,
Speaker 1: now working for the NHL Network their lead analyst, your
Speaker 1: thoughts on Bubba Wallace And I don't know if there's parallels,
Speaker 1: and I don't even want to I don't want to
Speaker 1: make that leap. But I'm curious if you see parallels.
Speaker 1: I don't want to tell you or ask you if
Speaker 1: you see it, or tell you if you do. Do
Speaker 1: you see any parallels what Bubba Wallace is doing in NASCAR? Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure. I mean, just based on the demographics of NASCAR.
Speaker 1: And you know, I lived in the Southeast for a
Speaker 1: good part of my career. You know, I played in Miami,
Speaker 1: I played in Tampa. I played in Greensboro, North Carolina
Speaker 1: when I was in the minors, and as I just mentioned,
Speaker 1: I played in Raleigh for the Carolina Hurricanes in the league.
Speaker 1: So I know how I know the history of NASCAR.
Speaker 1: I know how passionate the fan base is and how
Speaker 1: passion of the fan base has been. Keep in mind,
Speaker 1: Brad Doherty, as you'd know, had been a voice in
Speaker 1: NASCAR for years, long after his days in the NBA
Speaker 1: and his days of being Natar heel playing at UNC.
Speaker 1: But I would say this, I certainly understand what he's
Speaker 1: going through. I do. I understand it's an isolating feeling
Speaker 1: at times, and he's living his dream. He aspired to
Speaker 1: be a NASCAR driver, he's become one. He's one of
Speaker 1: the best in the world in his craft. But here's
Speaker 1: another thing that I do see too. I do see
Speaker 1: some of his competitors and fellow racers stepping up, and
Speaker 1: some of them have stepped up and supported him, which
Speaker 1: is great to see. You know, we do have a
Speaker 1: lot of people of color that do like NASCAR and
Speaker 1: quote unquote non traditional fans, like we would have quote
Speaker 1: unquote non traditional fans for the NHL as well. But
Speaker 1: it's a it's a tough road when you're one on
Speaker 1: one at times, it can be a very, very tough road.
Speaker 1: But I applaud him for what he's doing. I applaud
Speaker 1: him for having that courage. I applaud some of his
Speaker 1: fellow drivers for also stepping behind him. And here's the thing, Dan,
Speaker 1: you know, you've had so much success in your career,
Speaker 1: you've been around as long as you have. I always
Speaker 1: say that sports should be connective tissue, and sports can,
Speaker 1: and typically is when we're at our best, is transcendent.
Speaker 1: There's very few things in the world that can transcend
Speaker 1: like sports, music, art, culture, food, but at the heart
Speaker 1: of all that is people. It's people one on one.
Speaker 1: So whether you're from Murphysboro, whether you're from Greensboro, if
Speaker 1: you're from Talladega, if you're from Tallahassee, that doesn't make
Speaker 1: you any more supreme or any left than anybody else.
Speaker 1: Everybody should be made to feel safe and welcome. Colin Kaepernick.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he wants to play, And then
Speaker 1: now you have people who are spokespersons who are saying, hey, hey,
Speaker 1: we should give him a chance. Now, well, nothing's changed
Speaker 1: with Colin Kaepernick other than the times are changing. I'm
Speaker 1: wondering about It feels like tokenism to me, Kevin that
Speaker 1: nobody wanted him. Now let's bring him back, and like,
Speaker 1: why not last year or the year before. Your thoughts
Speaker 1: on Kaepernick, what does he have to lose if he
Speaker 1: comes back? In your opinion, Well, first of all, I think,
Speaker 1: and you know this too, again just based on your experience.
Speaker 1: I think anytime you're doing something that's unique or that
Speaker 1: it hasn't been done before, and even if it is
Speaker 1: positive in its spirit, it's not always met with the
Speaker 1: most appreciation. Now look at the Great Jordan MJ. I'm
Speaker 1: an MJ guy to the poem. Unfortunately, I've had a
Speaker 1: chance to meet him and playing some of his golf events,
Speaker 1: but they've banned his sneakers, Like think about that, they've
Speaker 1: banned the Air Jordan when it first came out. And
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to trivialize this around a sneaker, but
Speaker 1: the sneaker was so transcendent and so was he, and
Speaker 1: then that transcended the sports. Think of the different people
Speaker 1: from various backgrounds that grew up loving the sport because
Speaker 1: of him. So if you look at a guy like
Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick, it was seen as being rogue. Some people
Speaker 1: saw it as being extreme. It wasn't well received by
Speaker 1: a lot of people, and quite frankly, clearly with time.
Speaker 1: Sometimes time has a way of reframing the way in
Speaker 1: which we see in field about things. And I think
Speaker 1: that's kind of the case where he's concerned from a
Speaker 1: perception standpoint, because the atmosphere right now is such that
Speaker 1: we see what's happened, and maybe more people are more
Speaker 1: at tune and in tune to what's happening. Based on coronavirus,
Speaker 1: they're able to process the information from the people I've
Speaker 1: spoken to Dan week. See this is crazy week. See
Speaker 1: we never knew this was happening week. See I played
Speaker 1: with you. I never knew it was to this extent. Wow,
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. What can I do to help so
Speaker 1: for Cap now? I think the biggest thing for him,
Speaker 1: and you asked it off the top, a does he
Speaker 1: want to play? If he genuinely wants to play, well,
Speaker 1: then I always maintained there should be an opportunity for
Speaker 1: him to play, because not every single NFL quarterback on
Speaker 1: a roster is better than him right now, and I
Speaker 1: think a lot of that lies with whether or not
Speaker 1: he wants to play. And then from the owner's standpoint,
Speaker 1: just to continue to be open minded and know that
Speaker 1: if and when he's a fit for a specific team
Speaker 1: and he can come and make your team better, then
Speaker 1: why not. I don't look at it as a tokenism.
Speaker 1: I just look at it as an opportunity for people
Speaker 1: to reframe maybe what they thought before. And that's not
Speaker 1: unique to the owners. We've all had to do that.
Speaker 1: How much pressure do you think you'd be under if
Speaker 1: you were playing now to take a knee during the anthem?
Speaker 1: I think you'd be if it were me, specifically a mockey,
Speaker 1: for example. Yeah, oh, I think there'd be tons, for sure.
Speaker 1: I think there'd be tons. But I also think that
Speaker 1: there would be less than there would have been six
Speaker 1: months ago. For the same reason. You know, given the pandemic,
Speaker 1: people have more capacity to be more empathetic, more compassionate.
Speaker 1: They're not necessary commuting. A lot of people are working
Speaker 1: remotely from home, and I just feel like the human
Speaker 1: capacity seems to have expanded some and it needs to
Speaker 1: expand a lot more, quite frankly, but I can tell you, Dan,
Speaker 1: there's so many NHL people, players, coaches, agents, owners. I
Speaker 1: just had a great conversation with Commissioner Batman this morning,
Speaker 1: but so many different people and fans that I've never
Speaker 1: met before that are sending messages of support. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: just wonder in that sport long way. Yeah, I want
Speaker 1: to wonder that sport though, keV if if if you,
Speaker 1: if you took a knee, I don't know if an
Speaker 1: African now, ye, less so now than six months ago
Speaker 1: for sure, for that very reason. Yeah, for that very
Speaker 1: It's great to have you on. I appreciate you so
Speaker 1: much a long time fan. Thanks for having me, Yes,
Speaker 1: Thank you, Kevin. We appreciate your time. Good luck. That's
Speaker 1: Kevin Weeks from NHL goalie NHL lead analysts. There. We'll
Speaker 1: take a break. Last call for phone calls back after
Speaker 1: this and The Dan Patrick's Show. Thanks for listening to
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Speaker 1: Patrick Show. A lot of reaction, good reaction to Kevin
Speaker 1: Weeks things he had to say. Don't credit me, credit him.
Speaker 1: He had the things to say. I just set him up.
Speaker 1: Hopefully they knock him down. This day in sports history
Speaker 1: coming up. By the way, it's happy twenty third. Food poisoning,
Speaker 1: altitude sickness flu game for Michael Jordan just doesn't have
Speaker 1: the same ring. Why not just leave it at the flu.
Speaker 1: I still don't understand that. Just leave it that you
Speaker 1: had the flu. We were good with that food poisoning.
Speaker 1: I know it sounds a little spionage ish. There said
Speaker 1: they were trying to they were trying to poison Jordan.
Speaker 1: There flu all right, food poisoning sounded better from the beginning.
Speaker 1: They tried to poison Jordan and Utah flew and you
Speaker 1: know altitude sickness because Air Jordan cannot get altitude sickness.
Speaker 1: Bad for the brand, Bad for the brand. Kevin Weeks
Speaker 1: was talking about the NBA banned the first edition of
Speaker 1: Air Jordan because they were black and red. No white.
Speaker 1: And that's the famous David Letterman line, no white in him,
Speaker 1: just like the NBA. When Jordan was on the show
Speaker 1: and he was showcasing his original Air Jordan's there this
Speaker 1: damee sports history. What do you have playing? Pretty good? One?
Speaker 1: Dan Johnny vandermere two words VanderMeer, nineteen thirty eight. Since
Speaker 1: a reds pitcher through consecutive no hitters back to back starts,
Speaker 1: that seems like a record that won't be broken. We've had,
Speaker 1: I think we've had a no hitter and then a
Speaker 1: seven or six inning no hitter follow up with the pitcher. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that, Almo's pretty sad. It's pretty tough. At age
Speaker 1: forty one, Nolan Ryan in nineteen ninety became the oldest
Speaker 1: player to throw hitter. It was a sixth of his
Speaker 1: career I think he had one more. Didn't think so.
Speaker 1: I think he had said. Twenty ten Dan, ESPN launched
Speaker 1: ESPN three D. Remember three D was real popular for
Speaker 1: a minute and a half. Yes, we remember we did.
Speaker 1: Did we do a show in Dallas Super Bowl? We
Speaker 1: did one of those in three D? Yeah, that's at
Speaker 1: least one of those. That's where the boss comes in
Speaker 1: and he goes, Hey, you gotta help me out here,
Speaker 1: and I said, I'll help you out you tell me.
Speaker 1: He goes, We're gonna do a three D show, and
Speaker 1: I go, uh, I don't know how I can help you.
Speaker 1: Just go along with it, all right. It's a three
Speaker 1: D show. Five guys sitting motionless talking sports in three D.
Speaker 1: One of the many ways we've made history on this show. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: time you got to start exaggerating every movement with your
Speaker 1: pen or your head or everybody think has to make
Speaker 1: it look like it's coming at you. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: they're almost in my limit, right, you know what? We
Speaker 1: were throwing snowballs, I think, if I'm not mistaken, and
Speaker 1: we were like throwing the football around and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: I remember that. I know I've been in colder weather,
Speaker 1: but I've been prepared for that colder weather. I was
Speaker 1: not expecting that cold weather in Dallas. That was That's
Speaker 1: what made it even colder. And it was eleven degrees
Speaker 1: when we woke up, and it was it was freezing
Speaker 1: rain and sleet and highways were shut down and our
Speaker 1: set was outside, and I remember that I got a
Speaker 1: heater that you know, supplied a little bit of heat.
Speaker 1: We didn't even have jackets. We weren't even ready for
Speaker 1: any of this, and so we had to go out
Speaker 1: and get jackets and get gear and and that was.
Speaker 1: That was a tough little week there. And I mean
Speaker 1: we made the most of it, because you guys always do,
Speaker 1: but that was some cold, cold weather. Yeah, Cleven. The
Speaker 1: problem was there was six inches of ice underneath our
Speaker 1: feet at all time, so you couldn't get a get away. Oh,
Speaker 1: it was so bad. And there was a cab strike
Speaker 1: so you couldn't get a taxi anywhere, and you had
Speaker 1: to walk. We had to walk everywhere. Yeah, somehow made
Speaker 1: it work. Ed in Kentucky, High Ed, what do you
Speaker 1: have for me? Tom? How are you doing? Good? Ed? Hey,
Speaker 1: I love the show, but I've heard you saying more
Speaker 1: than once Zion was forced to go to college. I
Speaker 1: just I don't get it. I've heard other people say, well,
Speaker 1: he could have gone he could have gone to Europe.
Speaker 1: I mean, he couldn't gone to the NBA. Ed, No,
Speaker 1: but he wasn't forced. But he couldn't go to the NBA.
Speaker 1: He he could have gone to Europe, he could have
Speaker 1: gone to Australia, he could have gone to the G League.
Speaker 1: You're right, so he wasn't forced to go to school literally,
Speaker 1: but he couldn't have gone to the NBA. So what's
Speaker 1: your point? And that's it? Yeah, so I know he
Speaker 1: wasn't literally forced to go to college, but what were
Speaker 1: his options he got to go to college, he had
Speaker 1: he had to go to college, or he had to
Speaker 1: do something for one year before he went to the NBA.
Speaker 1: Apparently make a hell of a lot more money going
Speaker 1: to colleg too, then you would have in the GI League. Yes,
Speaker 1: I think I think that's a valid point there. I
Speaker 1: thought Ed was going to be like, Hey, I'm glad
Speaker 1: somebody is mentioning this story because if this was Kentucky
Speaker 1: and but that wasn't the case. Ed wanted me to
Speaker 1: know that nobody's forced to go to college. Polly as
Speaker 1: I say, Zia may have taken a pay cut going
Speaker 1: to the Pelican. You look at some of the needs.
Speaker 1: I don't know about that. I didn't. I can't say it,
Speaker 1: and then don't, Well, don't say that, you can't say it.
Speaker 1: I worked with an analyst who played college football once,
Speaker 1: and this analyst went from college football right to the USFL.
Speaker 1: And he joked with the room, going, Yeah, the USFO
Speaker 1: was great, but I was making more in college. So
Speaker 1: let me see who did Polly work for one time ago? Well,
Speaker 1: it's USFL. Yeah, he played in the us I could
Speaker 1: probably figure this out, but I shouldn't. The only hint
Speaker 1: would be his school was mentioned on the show today,
Speaker 1: SMU could be well, we mentioned that. There you go
Speaker 1: leave it at that. Wait, man, I don't think I
Speaker 1: could tell I don't think it wouldn't be a surprise
Speaker 1: if you found out this guy. Well, I know that
Speaker 1: there was a guy who was an analyst at the
Speaker 1: Mothership who played in the USFL. This guy's pretty famous guy,
Speaker 1: famous college football player, pretty pretty famous pro player, and
Speaker 1: he went from a college known for not Craig James
Speaker 1: This day in Sports, Did I hit that Babe Ruth
Speaker 1: did something? Yeah, not denial to that. Yeah, I guess m.
Speaker 1: You didn't even try to hide it. It was just
Speaker 1: it was just blatant. They had a dollar signed through
Speaker 1: the s on their helmet. Joe in Wisconsin. Hi Joe,
Speaker 1: what do you have for me to die? Hey? Damn?
Speaker 1: Second time, long time? Five ten, A dirty one. I
Speaker 1: got a couple of quick ones. Quick shout out to
Speaker 1: my sister. It's her birthday or rainy here Wisconsin. And
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys have seen this app.
Speaker 1: It's called I think it's cameo and you can pay
Speaker 1: a celebrity to send a shout out and do somebody.
Speaker 1: So I had I go and search the cup. She's
Speaker 1: a big Cups fan. Go on there, I see Kyle Farnsworth.
Speaker 1: So I got thirty bucks, got Kyle Farnsworth birthday to
Speaker 1: my sister. So that was pretty cool. Hey Joe, Joe,
Speaker 1: what's your sister's name? Ni? Nie, I'll do it for free. Yeah,
Speaker 1: also a big fans and wait, Joe, I was going
Speaker 1: to do it now yeah three two one Nie. I
Speaker 1: just want to say happy birthday. I hope you have many,
Speaker 1: many more happy birthdays. And Joe didn't pay for this.
Speaker 1: I did this on my own, Thanks Dan, and then
Speaker 1: got one more for you. My wife is expecting to
Speaker 1: have a baby. We're expecting and she's a week late.
Speaker 1: So we're going in tomorrow to get induced with our
Speaker 1: first baby, a little baby girl. So any advice you
Speaker 1: have for me and her along the way. Shut out.
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm going to be Joe be playing catcher. Joe.
Speaker 1: Here's my advice, and I'll let you go. Shut up,
Speaker 1: don't say anything, be quiet, just be there, don't talk.
Speaker 1: You're gonna get yelled at. Oh or you gonna get
Speaker 1: yelled at. You're gonna get yelled at. And you didn't
Speaker 1: do anything wrong. Todd, what did you learn on today's program?
Speaker 1: I learned you think they're still chest the MLB season
Speaker 1: can get underway before the NBA. Yeah, I never would
Speaker 1: have thought that, But here we are mclub. And what
Speaker 1: did you learn today? I learned the Torkelson joke I
Speaker 1: stole from Todd did not work. But at least Todd
Speaker 1: didn't say I did the torque. You know when you're
Speaker 1: seeing O'Connor, Cody and Tennessee best best guest of the week. Yeah,
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