1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,239 Speaker 1: My girlfriend won't stop spending time with her other partner? 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 2: Should I leave her? After five years? 3 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: And this is okop where we read the craziest true 4 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 1: stories on Earth, Sam and our incredible guest Zach from 5 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: No Filters. 6 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 2: What do we think with no context? Should I believe? 7 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 2: I mean I always think it's a great time to 8 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 2: leave a relationship, So yeah. 9 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 3: Always think it's a great time. Yeah, like no commitment, 10 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 3: no commitment. 11 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 2: Ever relationship, but in this relationship, sure, Yeah. All of 12 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 2: Zack's future partners are not worried. 13 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: You're already you're done, okay, but we are not done 14 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: with a story which is just beginning. So this one 15 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 1: comes from Throwaway seven three one three purple? 16 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 2: What are you trying to hide? Throw Away? They're all 17 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 2: trying this is See if your name is throwaway, then 18 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 2: that means you're already ready to throw away your relationship. 19 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 2: There we go all the context clues over here. 20 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: Well they say, I twenty eight male, met my girlfriend 21 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: Clara twenty nine female, about five years ago, and we 22 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: moved in together almost. 23 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 2: Four years ago. So five years together, four years living. Wow, 24 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 2: I feel like moving in after a year is quick? Yeah? 25 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 2: Pretty quick? Pretty quick? Yeah? Not when you're pushing thirty. Oh, 26 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 2: I guess at this point they weren't pushing thirty, were 27 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 2: exactly when pushing thirty When you're like twenty eight, twenty nine, okay, 28 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 2: and you're pushing thirty, and that that point you're like, okay, 29 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 2: it's time to get my shit together. Yes, true, true, true. 30 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: Our relationship has always been opened and we were free 31 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: to date whoever we wanted after we moved in, but 32 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 1: we set a few rules, mainly a weekly check in 33 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: and dedicated private time for the two of us. So 34 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: it sounds like they're in a. 35 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 3: Poly relationship, which you gotta have rules. If you're in 36 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 3: a poly relationship, you got to I wonder if that's 37 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 3: enough rules. I feel like that's not enough rules. Like 38 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 3: can they like bring anyone they want into the house? 39 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 2: Yep? 40 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,559 Speaker 3: Can they bring family members of the opposing partner? 41 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: Yep? Yeah, that's a great option, Like these are great, Like, wow, 42 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 2: I like like where we're going with this. 43 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: Your brother is pretty hot. But I'll tell you the 44 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: weekly checking. Yeah we're good. Hey, I love the genes. 45 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: I love the genes. 46 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 2: It's the weekly checking, the confession booth of this relationship. 47 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 2: And then if you're not with the like. Let's say 48 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 2: the brother's hotter than your partner, but he like doesn't 49 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 2: have a great personality, then you at least get to 50 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 2: bang without the commitment. Yeah see, I mean I think 51 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 2: it's it's a win win all around, best of both worlds. 52 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 2: We're just solving relationships. Look at us. You're welcome. Now. 53 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: The first three years were great, and the last year 54 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: we started to go to sex clubs together and Clara 55 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: got to finally experience her first male male male female situation. 56 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 2: Wow, it's so many males at a lot of males. 57 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 2: That's a lot to handle. Yeah. Do you think she 58 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 2: has enough holes for all that? How do you like? Well, 59 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 2: but guess what they found? A riley? Where is it? 60 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 2: Where is it? Oh? 61 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 3: How can we not make any sexual content? This is 62 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 3: a very sex ridden the sign creative. You definitely have enough, 63 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 3: Like you can create holes, so you have enough holes? 64 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 2: That took me okay with your hands? 65 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: Okay for audio listeners, Yeah, one hand context of that anyway, 66 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: not some sort of surgical something. 67 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 2: I mean, you could do that too. 68 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 4: I got an okay story talk show? 69 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 2: Oh god, thing? 70 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 4: Oh told me Daniel Cox? 71 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 2: Oh god, oh, great person? To tell you. 72 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 1: Yeah honestly, yeah, well, okay, story time for Riley. At 73 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 1: the end of the story. 74 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 2: I love how we just shout it out to Daniel true, 75 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 2: and that is how she met Gary thirty male. 76 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 3: I know, I think Gary's gonna throw a wrench in 77 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 3: this relationship. Really, that is my conspiracy theory. 78 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: So we have these conspiracy theory hats at any time. 79 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: I think we need a conspiracy theory. Yeah from you. 80 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 2: Are you on the conspiracy theory of Gary screwing things 81 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 2: up or you know? Yeah, but I'm also kind of 82 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 2: hoping Gary's the brother. That's what I think Gary's I 83 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 2: think Gary. I think she fell in love with Gary. 84 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 2: I think she's gonna fall in love with Gary. Easy, easy, easy, 85 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 2: which is why you need rules and open relationships. Don't 86 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 2: fall in love ye one, Rule number follow Rule number two. 87 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 2: Weekly checking Yeah, yeah, I think you know what. It's all. 88 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 2: You have a weekly check in where you're saying you're 89 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 2: falling in love. You're fine. I think a weekly checking 90 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 2: is not often enough, Like, I think we need a 91 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 2: little more regular check in. 92 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 1: That's it, that's all we need. I am in love 93 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: with your mom. Weekly check in, weekly checking done well, do. 94 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 2: You have you have a weekly check in your relationship? 95 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, we do have check ins. Yeah, maybe not weekly, 96 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 1: not weekly. Yeah, we try, we try. 97 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 2: Sometimes you miss them. Date nights tomorrow though, So I 98 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 2: just came back. That's right. 99 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: Yes, as Riley pointed out on la episode. But let's 100 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: get back into reality. So Gary and my girlfriend started 101 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 1: seeing each other and it quickly became four to five 102 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: nights a week, several of those nights per week being sleepovers. 103 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 2: Yo, that's like every night. Yeah, like when are you 104 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 2: home for the weekly check in? On the weekly. 105 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 3: Checking as as long as you hit that weekly check 106 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 3: in and the relationship. 107 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 2: Is fine, Yeah, because you're hitting all the rules. Done. 108 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 2: I love Gary. Now easy weekly checking. Yeah, it's over. 109 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 2: Gary and I are getting married. I'll tell you the 110 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 2: weekly check in. 111 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, after the we're having kids. Weekly checking done 112 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: solves everything. It's a miracle worker text like nope, damn. 113 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: When Clara canceled one of our knights together, I protested 114 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: and she said that she would make it up. 115 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 2: I will accept this. I'm just imagining. 116 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 3: It was like hey, ho, hey ho, Gary to go Hey, 117 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 3: I'm protesting in his own house by himself. 118 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 2: Oh man. 119 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 3: But get ready at the weekly check in. Though it's 120 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,119 Speaker 3: a very important day to protest. Are we already yes 121 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 3: on one of our weekly check ins? Now it's going 122 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 3: to go down. John and I have daily check ins. 123 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 2: That's true, That is true. Yeah, it shows how committed 124 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 2: we are. Yeah, no surprises. 125 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: No Gary's. We don't need no Gary's, get it done 126 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 1: all by ourselves. Anyways, I said I was feeling my 127 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: needs were being neglected and she was spending too much 128 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: time with Gary. It turned into an argument, but she 129 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: finally promised to be more mindful of our relationship. That 130 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 1: lasted about two weeks. A few weeks ago, I had 131 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: a company social function that we were invited to. I 132 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: had rsvped and sent Clara a text to remind her. 133 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: The day before the event, she said she couldn't make 134 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: it because she was with Gary. What do you think 135 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:31,239 Speaker 1: she was doing with Gary? 136 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 2: All the things? 137 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, things, She was doing a five sme this day. 138 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 3: She graduated from a foursome no five summer. She's just adding. 139 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 3: People can't forget the holes. 140 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: She couldn't make it due to a band Gary wanting 141 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: to see being in town. 142 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 3: That's egregious. This is because she was supposed to come 143 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 3: to the work function thing. She already agreed to it, 144 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 3: and then she texted like, YO, can't make it. She 145 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 3: is in town, I go, I gotta go. 146 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 2: Probably not even a be It was like an underground 147 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 2: up and coming indie band. Yeah yeah, and nobody's even 148 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 2: heard of, like my college roommate. Yeah well, actually that 149 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 2: would be more of a reason to go. But Munchers 150 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 2: and the scally Wags is playing today. I can't Did 151 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 2: you just come up with that right then? I did. 152 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 2: That is a great band name. I'm trying. But Munchers 153 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 2: and the scully Wags, I'm trying. We had a lot 154 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 2: of pirate play this this morning too, so oh, we're. 155 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: Trying to make a podcast here where this is the 156 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: content that we make for you all. This is true 157 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: her when she came home after that day, I blew 158 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: up and said I was taking care of her share 159 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: of the chores around the house and being treated like 160 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: a roommate. It got ugly and she ended up leaving 161 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: and going to Gary's apartment. 162 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 3: Typical, damn typical, right, Yeah, he's pushing her into the 163 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 3: arms of Gary so bad. 164 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: She came home early Monday morning before I left work 165 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: and said how she was sorry and we needed to 166 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: work things out. I told her we needed to set 167 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: some new boundaries and schedules that she could abide by 168 00:07:58,120 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: and we could talk. 169 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 2: About it tonight. The Weekly Chuck at the Weekly check 170 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 2: with Gary. 171 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 3: With Gary, what I wanted to do is I wanted 172 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 3: to bring Gary into the bakery check and I want 173 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 3: to have an inclusive weekly check. 174 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: I left and got halfway to work when I got 175 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: a text asking where all of her work clothes were at. 176 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: I replied, in the dirty clothes hamper. Oh, he's fighting back. 177 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 3: She was expecting him to do her laundry that I 178 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 3: think he was doing the chores. 179 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 2: Yes, so she. 180 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: Was expecting him to do her laundry while she was 181 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: at Gary's show. I have Gary do it for I 182 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: have Gary do your mind stand up. She gets all 183 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: the action and doesn't have to do the laundry. That's no, no, no, 184 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: we can't do that. 185 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 2: That's not fair, dude. 186 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: I told her, I washed all of my clothes, but 187 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: I wasn't going to be her effing made any longer, 188 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: especially if I've been demoted to roommates. 189 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 2: Because are they not boinking anymore? It's not just Gary now, 190 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 2: that's a lot of. 191 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 3: Gary and like the five other people. Yeah, her schedules 192 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 3: are pretty back. Her schedule is pretty packed, among others things, Oh, 193 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 3: she's time to do laundry. No, yeah, exactly. 194 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 2: Wow. 195 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: When I got home, Claire was fixing dinner. I asked 196 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: her if she wanted to break up and go live 197 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 1: with Gary. Damn, just coming straight out. 198 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 2: With it, you know what. But I feel like you 199 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 2: need that clear communication. 200 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: Yeah at this point that I would understand, but I 201 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: needed to know where she stood. She said she wanted 202 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: us to stay together and not to fight anymore. 203 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 2: Like there's gonna be an ultimatum soon, it's me or Gary. Yeah. 204 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: So I said we needed a new schedule and at 205 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: the very least, I wanted two nights in a row 206 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: with her and a Friday date night every week. 207 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:37,839 Speaker 3: I feel like, if you're making these consolations at this point, 208 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 3: like the relationship is kind of already over. 209 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 2: I mean, Zach, how are we feeling over here? I 210 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 2: mean she's engaged to Gary. Like at this point, like 211 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 2: your relationship is done. Don't do her laundry, throw her 212 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 2: laundry on the lawn. Okay, that's where I come from. 213 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 2: You're mad at someone, you throw their laundry on the 214 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 2: lawn and you change the lot up the antie. Yeah 215 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 2: that anti Yeah, let the neighbors know what's going on. 216 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 2: Is that what airing dirty laundry comes from? Oh? Maybe 217 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 2: can we just say that's where it came from. Let's 218 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 2: just say and just make that a thing. Yeah, it probably. 219 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 3: Just means like, when let's see what does that mean? 220 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 3: Where does it come from? 221 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: Oh, if someone's airing their dirty laundry in public, some 222 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: people might disapprove. So if you're hanging you know, maybe 223 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: some clothes with some stains on it, you. 224 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 2: Don't hang it. You just throw it out. Yeah, yeah 225 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 2: for everyone to see. Yeah, on the sidewalk. Have you 226 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 2: ever done that? No, but that my mom used to 227 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 2: do that to my stepdad all the time. I want 228 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 2: an okay storytelling he did that to her. And then 229 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 2: I was like, this is embarrassing. My mom's panties are 230 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 2: on the lawn. That is true. You don't want to 231 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 2: see that. No, no you don't. But that's that's how 232 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 2: you get back that. Listen, I'm great at relationship to 233 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 2: get back to you use this on a future partner. 234 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 2: I can't wait. We'll bring you back to break it 235 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 2: down what she does now. 236 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: She agreed that my stipulations were fair, and we made 237 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: up and had a couple of good days together until 238 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: until she spent the night at Gary's house and the 239 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: next day told me that our agreement wasn't fair because 240 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:02,959 Speaker 1: Gary didn't have a say in it. 241 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 2: He needs to be at the weekly check in. That's 242 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 2: why he needs a seat at the table. He needs 243 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 2: a vote. Oh my god, this is insane. 244 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: I told her if we were going to live together, 245 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: then we needed to have an agreement between us, and 246 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: that I wasn't interested in having an agreement or dating Gary. 247 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: If she didn't want to keep the agreement we made, 248 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 1: then she needed to find a new roommate, and she 249 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: needed to take care of her cat because I was 250 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,079 Speaker 1: done taking care of her. 251 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 2: Well, Gary's been taking care of her cat. Yeah, whooah Gary. 252 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: Clara wants to talk, but I feel Gary is calling 253 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: all the shots and I just need to know where 254 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: she actually stands. Is this even salvageable or is it 255 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: time to just move on? So I know this is 256 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,559 Speaker 1: going to come up, but I am seeing other people, 257 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: so it's not like I'm sitting at home feeling very 258 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 1: sorry for myself when she is gone, because remember they 259 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: are a. 260 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 2: Fair sex face the peers shock. 261 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: Their agreement was that they could see other people as 262 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: long as they communicated at the check in. 263 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like she should have at least 264 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 2: asked if, like we could bring Gary into the relationship, 265 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 2: like give him an opportunity to date Gary. That way, 266 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 2: he doesn't feel like he's not dating Gary. That's what 267 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 2: it seems like she's like vying for. Yeah, I'm gonna 268 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 2: get a cough drop. 269 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 1: Yes, go do that. We'll finish this out here. Me 270 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: and Zach solo. This is now the John and Zach Show. 271 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: Sam has been every once in a while, his throat 272 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:22,959 Speaker 1: has just. 273 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 2: Been you know where I think he's at. I think 274 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:28,599 Speaker 2: he's at Gary's. He's cheating on you. We're gonna have 275 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:30,839 Speaker 2: a discussion about this after the podcast at the weekly 276 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 2: check in. Yes, but oh he's back, Damn he's quick, 277 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 2: ready to go. You got water? Just doing cough drop? Dude, 278 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 2: I got some water. 279 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: But I need to know if I can look for 280 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: someone that can fulfill my needs and that I can 281 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: make life plans with. Now we have some comments that 282 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 1: op responded to, but let's let's break this down real quick. 283 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 2: This is a disaster. Do you stay or do you go? 284 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 2: You go? There's no staying in this, Like why would 285 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 2: you stay in there? Gary clearly want like lick your 286 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 2: wounds in peace out. 287 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 3: Yeah that's all you can do what we were saying earlier. 288 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 3: As soon as you start making like these consolations where 289 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 3: I feel like he's asking for so little. It's like, 290 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 3: can we just spend like a couple of nights a 291 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 3: week together and she's only listening for a couple of 292 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:12,199 Speaker 3: weeks And then. 293 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 2: Did they've been making a couple of weeks? I feel 294 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 2: like she dipped out, Like they made it like a 295 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 2: week right, like a week or two, so. 296 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, like and then she was back to her way. 297 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 3: It's like it's over. I think it's over. 298 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 2: That's what you need clear rules from the beginning, like 299 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 2: no sleepovers five times a week with the same person. 300 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 3: But it's so hard to know what your blind spots 301 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 3: are in a POLI relationship, you know. 302 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what you need more than a weekly check in. Yeah, 303 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 2: you need like active check ins and like maybe approval, 304 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 2: like maybe that's your date nights you just swipe through 305 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 2: people on the big screen and you like, wow, approve together, Wow, 306 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 2: Like I like that one for you? Yeah, I mean yeah, 307 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 2: I approve him for you wow. Yeah. 308 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: Because honestly, we've read a decent amount of poly stories 309 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 1: and this one has had maybe the most lax rules. 310 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 2: Of maybe they're maybe there was a. 311 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 3: I feel like something that failed poly relationships have in 312 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 3: common is a lack of consistent clear boundaries. 313 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, in clear boundaries. 314 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 4: Check the stead out. 315 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 3: Riley's looking up. How many open relationships work? 316 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 2: Here we go. I don't think they ever work? 317 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 4: Do They has eight percent success rate? 318 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 2: Somebody always falls in love with somebody else. 319 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: As a wise man once told me, you miss every shot. 320 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: You don't take buckets? 321 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 4: True? 322 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 2: Who told you that? Not always? 323 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 3: But like we were we had we had a caller 324 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 3: call in and she was in an open relationship with 325 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 3: her ex partner until she found the person that she 326 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 3: wanted to be in a full relationship with. And then 327 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 3: now they have a closed relationship with this new person. 328 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 2: So it does kind of like it's like relationship light. 329 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like it kind of begs the question like do 330 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: you like a lot of people in their twenties are like, yo, 331 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: I'm just having fun I'm doing whatever, exploring until I 332 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: settle down. Is there a thing where it's like, hey, 333 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: well kind of almost like life partner's light, you know, 334 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: it's like, hey, I want someone to spend time with 335 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: and you know, have some of the pros of a relationship, 336 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: but I'm not I'm not done going crazy in these 337 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: streets yet. 338 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 2: When you're young, when you're young and like don't commit, 339 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 2: Like that's not fair, Like I don't think it's fair 340 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 2: to like want to say I'm with you, but I 341 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 2: want to explore my other options, like if you're in 342 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 2: a commit to commit or don't commit, like, you know, I. 343 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 3: Feel like open relationships are like limbo land. Yeah, it's 344 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 3: again we need to ask y'all, like what are your rules? 345 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, people who are in open relationships, what are your 346 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 2: rules that actually were. 347 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: If you've been in or simply just seen a successful 348 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: long term poly relationship, We're very curious. 349 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 2: I do know of an open marriage that was Like 350 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 2: my neighbors, and I remember just like sitting them down 351 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 2: one time and being like, explain this to me, and 352 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 2: for them it worked. They said that the rules evolved 353 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 2: over time, but like for the most have to Yeah, 354 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 2: as things come up. Yeah, but they've been together for like, 355 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 2: they've been married for like ten years and together for longer. 356 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 2: Did you participate? I tried, I tried. I've accept the application. 357 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 2: What's wrong with that? I was offended? Come on, have 358 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 2: you seen this man's boots? Exactly? They're incredible. They are. 359 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 3: We're a no shoe household, so so they may see that. Yeah, 360 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 3: they're phenomenal. 361 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 2: Yes, they are. Just imagine imagine red bottoms. That's all 362 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 2: you need to know. 363 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 3: And like a metal on the shoe. Oh yeah, yeah, 364 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 3: it's pretty thick. 365 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: But we have some comments, yes and responses. So comment 366 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: number one is this from a commentary on July twenty fourth. Okay, 367 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: so this is actually essentially an updates from OP. Well, 368 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: that was good advice, talking to everyone who gave advice. 369 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: But Clara came home from Gary's and wanted to talk. 370 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: She gave me a counter proposal that I won't even 371 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: waste time typing out. 372 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 2: No, I want to know what the count. I want 373 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 2: to know how much she hates this guy? Like does 374 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 2: he get every other weekend and Gary gets her full time? Yeah? 375 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 2: This is like divorce with like a kid at this point. 376 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 3: Wow, And Op's the kid, just trying to get a 377 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 3: scrap of physical intimacy. 378 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: Except instead of two people wanting you, nobody wants to 379 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: God stalt in the whom I asked again if we 380 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: were through and all the planes we had made were 381 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: just pipe dreams. She says that she still loves me 382 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: and wants to be with me, but she has feelings 383 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 1: for Gary as well, and I should respect that. I said, 384 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: I think she loves having a roommate and that my 385 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: needs and feelings don't matter. 386 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 2: So I gave her another deal. 387 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: If we are going to stay together, then we have 388 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: to fix us without Gary's influence. 389 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 2: Ultimatum me or Gary. All right, well, well let's see. 390 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: I told her she had to cut contact with Gary 391 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: for a week, no calls, no text, no nothing, and 392 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 1: then if we get back to where we were, she 393 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: can start to see Gary. 394 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 2: Oh god, how First of all, one week is not enough? Right? 395 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 2: Number one? And number two like, we need to cut 396 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 2: Gary loose. Gary's always going to win. Yes, yeah, he's 397 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 2: too powerful. I feel like she's she can't go a 398 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 2: week without Gary. No, she's addicted. Yeah, addicted to Gary 399 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 2: for sure, strongest drug out there. I see what you 400 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 2: did there, Riley, I thought you did that. No, you 401 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 2: did that. 402 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 4: I thought you did that because you put the. 403 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: News I did by accident. Oh is that not what 404 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 1: you meant? Give credit to everyone else. Oh yeah, that's 405 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: we are just criss crossed all over the place over here, 406 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: like I picked him. Wait, who said that? That got 407 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 1: lost in the cross though? But she could only see 408 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 1: Gary twice a week and no sleepovers. She said there 409 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 1: was no way that would work and that that was 410 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: just me being cruel. 411 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 2: Wow, so easy a week a week. 412 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 3: That's like that guy in like Nordic solitary confinement complaining 413 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 3: about how he's like being treated cruelly and he has 414 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 3: an xbox in his cell. 415 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: Well, this is specifically referencing after the week not being 416 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: able to see him more than two times a week 417 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: in no sleepovers. 418 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 3: That's dumb, what I'm saying. It is as dumb as 419 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 3: that guy in Norway. Have you seen have you seen 420 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 3: the guy in Norway? 421 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:47,679 Speaker 2: Seen this guy? Riley? 422 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 3: Pull up a guy in Norway's uh solitary confinement. This 423 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 3: guy has a pimped out apartment and he's complaining about 424 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 3: being treated cruelly. That's his cells a computer. 425 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 2: I mean, it's a white refrigerator. But still, what's the 426 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 2: premium one? It looks great. 427 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: I mean for a prison, that's incredible. Yeah, that's incredible. 428 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: Although if I had to live there, I'd be like. 429 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,959 Speaker 2: No, that was better than my apartment in college. 430 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 1: It looks like a college, better than a multi person Yeah. 431 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 2: Pictures, pictures of all his lovers also, look up maybe 432 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 2: this is Gary. Look up solitary confinement, cruelty. I'm not 433 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 2: going to find it. Read it. 434 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 3: Maybe he was recently read it. I don't know if 435 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,360 Speaker 3: it's Norway. It might not be Norway. But he has 436 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 3: like a basketball court too. Oh wow, I think is 437 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 3: that one. That's what I'm talking about. That's his prism. 438 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 3: Go go through the pictures, go through the pictures. 439 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 2: Wow, he has a gym, he has birds. He has 440 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 2: a basketball court, but it's not heated, it's frozen. Anyway, 441 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 2: he's getting basketball that snow. How does the snow get 442 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 2: in the basketball court? I have a question. 443 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: It has like a mesh, kind of not like fully meshed, 444 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:00,400 Speaker 1: but little. 445 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 3: The point that I'm trying to make it is not 446 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 3: cruel what OPI is proposing? 447 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 2: No, much like this Norwegian bass murderer. 448 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 1: Point Tagan I reminded her in a few weeks that 449 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: we were supposed to be in a wedding in North Carolina. 450 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 1: Our friends want both of us in the wedding party 451 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: as bridesmaid and groomsman. I told her, if we don't 452 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: work things out, I wasn't going, which meant that she 453 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 1: wasn't going to be able to go either, and she 454 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: could explain to our friends why we were backing out 455 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: of the wedding. 456 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,199 Speaker 2: Why couldn't she still go to the wedding with Gary? 457 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 2: I mean she probably will. 458 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: I feel like ops, like thinking that will stop her, 459 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: But that is like zero leverage. 460 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 2: That's like the more reason for her to be like, yeah, 461 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 2: leave so than I can take it. Watched dancing. 462 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, and she doesn't have to explain no yeah, oh 463 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 1: my god, well, I mean she kind of has to 464 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: explain if show her actual life, you're exact, that you're 465 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: so right, maybe people won't notice. Maybe you should just 466 00:20:56,280 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: pretend that that, like, oh God loses OI feel for you. 467 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 2: But the thing is this is already a lost cause. Leave. 468 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 3: Just leave, and you'll be so much better. You'll be 469 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 3: so much better. The only reason that this sucks is 470 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 3: because you're choosing the step. 471 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 2: You need to leave. There's no way around it, or it. 472 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 3: Sucks more because you're choosing the step. Yes, it's like 473 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 3: you're in Norwegian solitary confinement and you're choosing to stay 474 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 3: in the solitary confinement. 475 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 2: Roam free, leave him free. Now. 476 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,640 Speaker 1: This was all after being fitted for a tucks in gowns. 477 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: She cried foul and said that I was just being mean. 478 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 1: But I didn't budge and said the choice was hers, 479 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 1: but it was final. She wanted to go talk to 480 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,360 Speaker 1: Gary about it. Oh classic, And I said, you can 481 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: call him one more time and talk about it. But 482 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 1: if she went over there to stay, and when she 483 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: came back, I would get all of her stuff because 484 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: I was tired of trying and getting stepped on. 485 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 2: So basically is like you're moving out if you go 486 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 2: to Gary's. I'm glad that OPI finally drew a line 487 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 2: in the stay. Yes, it's about time. 488 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: She finally agreed and called Gary to tell him. I 489 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: didn't listen, but I heard her raise her voice a 490 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: few times afterwards. 491 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 2: I asked her to. 492 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: Block him on her phone and all social media and 493 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: told her if I found out that they had any contact, 494 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: the deal was off and we were done. I know 495 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: this sounds controlling and vindictive, but it's the only way 496 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: I know to get back to where we were, and 497 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 1: if it doesn't work, we both can move on. 498 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 2: There's another update, but don't even try to make it work. 499 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 2: She's in love with somebody else. 500 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 3: Zach, what is your prediction on what this next update 501 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 3: will entail? 502 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 2: We tried it, it didn't work. She went back to Gary. 503 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 2: I'm sad and alone. I mean no stra Dam is 504 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 2: over good too. 505 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: So Clara and I had a productive discussion this morning 506 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: and we agreed to couples counseling this week. 507 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 2: Oh okayning the ship going back? I don't think so, 508 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 2: let's sure, Let's take a ride. 509 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,959 Speaker 1: She deleted her Snapchat and WhatsApp and showed me her 510 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 1: phone and said that she has nothing to hide and 511 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,479 Speaker 1: wanted to be transparent. Gary tried to call me several 512 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: times this morning and finally sent a text wanting to 513 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: talk with me. I answered his next call and we 514 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 1: argued a little. I told him I thought my first 515 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: proposal was more than fair, and when he shot that down, 516 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: I felt it was. 517 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 2: Time for a different course of action. 518 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 3: Beat him up, Beat him up, Yeah, take his dirty 519 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 3: laundry and put it on the car. 520 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 521 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: And I told him that Clara is free to walk 522 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: away from the agreement we made at any time, and that. 523 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 2: It was totally up to her. 524 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 1: I told him I thought he was out to break 525 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: us up, and if it was up to me, I 526 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: would veto their relationship right now. He made a bunch 527 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 1: of stupid remarks to piss me off, so I just 528 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,719 Speaker 1: hung up and I blocked him. Okay, we have another update. 529 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 1: Are you still Yeah, we're still riding with Eventually they're 530 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: going to break. 531 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 2: Up, and she's there's a fair amount left. Ye, She's 532 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 2: going back to Gary by the end of this. Yeah. 533 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:53,239 Speaker 2: Gary always win, always wins. Nice guy's finished last. I 534 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 2: know he is a nice guy. He's getting treated like trash. 535 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: But you know who finishes first, Gary Always. Clara called 536 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: me today around lunchtime. Gary just couldn't stand being cut 537 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: off and came to her work to ask her to 538 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: go to. 539 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 2: Watch Gary get it together. These men like have no 540 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 2: self respect. 541 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 3: Definitely not doing that I feel is negative points for Gary. 542 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 3: I feel like, oh he might be winning Gary. I 543 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 3: think he's inside Gary's head. 544 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 2: This is my games, you know, you don't think it's 545 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 2: going to make her be like, Oh, it's a rom 546 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 2: com and he loves me. He's bringing me. He's playing 547 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 2: his boombox outside my job. I feel like you can 548 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,199 Speaker 2: play a boom box outside like a house, but outside 549 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,360 Speaker 2: your place of work. I feel like, is a bad luck. Yeah, 550 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 2: it's America. It's less romantic. 551 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I seem to recall a certain argument 552 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,439 Speaker 1: about taking a boom box somewhere and playing it with 553 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 1: certain stipulations. 554 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 2: I don't remember this. 555 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 3: But bags, Oh that that so very very quickly, there's 556 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:56,919 Speaker 3: bringing back the bags. 557 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 2: We're bringing a story. 558 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 3: You're getting caught up in some drama from episodes and 559 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 3: episodes ago. 560 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 1: Opie was down and out with his wife. The wife 561 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: was at the parents in Europe. He's like, presumably in 562 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: the US, op with two days notice, just flies to Europe, 563 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: shows up at her doorstep and it's like, baby, I'm 564 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: here to try to make this work. 565 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 2: I need to change, I need to do whatever. 566 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: He had his bags with them, Ok, presuming he's going 567 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:24,199 Speaker 1: to stay with him, so do you just on his 568 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: place of work? So it's still romantic. 569 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,239 Speaker 3: The only line that I drew in the sand is 570 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 3: not bringing the boom box and the bags to work. 571 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 3: You can bring a boombox and bags and I agree, 572 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,439 Speaker 3: Oh you do agree? I agree with So I do 573 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 3: win the bags. No, no, you don't win the bags. 574 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,199 Speaker 2: Win the bags. I agree with you. Now would you 575 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 2: bring the bags? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, damn it. 576 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 3: It's safe, well, playing it safe, so he said, yeah, 577 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 3: he said, TiO, this scenario, you lost the bag. 578 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 2: Argument the like die, it's like die, accept it? Accept it? 579 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 2: All right? I lost the bag. 580 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 1: It's over. This is three versus one. I'm not Clara, 581 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 1: but this is three men versus one. And I can't 582 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: take you can't take it. I can't take care, all right, 583 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 1: all right, so team bags. 584 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 2: Okay. 585 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 1: So remember Gary had showed up to her place of 586 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: work tried to get her to go to lunch. 587 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 2: She refused and got loud and made a scene. 588 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: She ended up getting security called to remove Gary from 589 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 1: the building. 590 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 2: Gary's losing. Oh no, I'm sad for Gary. He found 591 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 2: the love of his life. She just happened to be 592 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,439 Speaker 2: in a relationship with somebody else the whole time. And 593 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 2: finally Opie's winning. And you're like, I like Gary, do 594 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 2: you in the story listen, Clara is the villain. Let's 595 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 2: be very clear. Gary is just the you know, the 596 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 2: actually is true Clara time, I was like, fucking Gary 597 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 2: is the bad person, but Clara really is that Gary 598 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 2: did was fall in love in a woman and she 599 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 2: was technically available. 600 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 3: You are changing my mind on this, but I should 601 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 3: if Clara's Voltimore? 602 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 2: Is Gary a death eater though? Like is he He's 603 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:12,880 Speaker 2: like following Clara eater? You know, but oh that's true? 604 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 2: I think, yes, I. 605 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 3: Think, I think I think Clara's Voldemore and these guys 606 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 3: are death like Gary. 607 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: Gary is clearly trying to like break the relationship apart 608 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 1: because Gary fell in love. Yeah, but do you not 609 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: believe in love? I believe in love, but I don't 610 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 1: believe in breaking relationships over just what you feel. But 611 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 1: I do realize every rom com is like, fuck, whatever 612 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,880 Speaker 1: relationship happened, Love is the only thing that matters. 613 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 2: And love is this relationship, not that one. But I'm 614 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 2: not on board with that. Dude. Let's see how this plays. 615 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: Let's let's keep going. He embarrassed her at work and 616 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: she is living. She then had to answer a lot 617 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 1: of personal questions to her boss about who he was 618 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,160 Speaker 1: and more questions about us? How do you explain that 619 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: when she got home she wanted to call and talk 620 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 1: to him. I said that that was a bad idea, 621 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: and that she said there were things she needed to 622 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: tell him, and said that she would do it on 623 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: speakerphone so I could hear. So I listened as she 624 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: called him. She told him coming to her work and 625 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 1: embarrassing her was unacceptable. Then she said she needed space 626 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: to work on our relationship meaning op and Clara, on 627 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 1: our relationship that she had neglected, and that now she 628 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,959 Speaker 1: needed at least two weeks with no contact before they 629 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: could see each other. 630 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 2: Keeps going in Opie's favor. 631 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: He kept trying to talk over her, but she shut 632 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: him down and told him if he couldn't respect her wishes, 633 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: then maybe I was right and she should cut him 634 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 1: off permanently. 635 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 2: Then she hung up the phone. 636 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: She got off work and broke or she got off 637 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: the call and broke down telling me about the fallof 638 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: from work. Her boss is making her pay for a 639 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: window that Gary broke as security was escorting him out. 640 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 2: Why does she even want to see this guy? After 641 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 2: two weeks do we find out how he broke the window? Therefore? Oh, 642 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 2: I imagine with his fists or he was singing, Oh 643 00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 2: and you just hit that high note a love. Yeah. Now, 644 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 2: would you agree that Gary is a death eater? I 645 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 2: need more contact? What more content? 646 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 3: You're telling me breaking a window isn't enough for you? 647 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 2: But she was so into him that I just I 648 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 2: need to know what was keeping her there five days 649 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 2: a week. Well, one thing. Maybe that's how he broke 650 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 2: the window. He didn't need a fist. 651 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 3: I think you just want someone to break a window 652 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 3: for I would love that. 653 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 2: Actually a very sweet gesture. Somebody watching break a window 654 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 2: for Zachary would be mortified, but like also like how endearing? 655 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, like forever and ever. 656 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 3: He would be like, yeah, that's the one got time, 657 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 3: Like someone broke a window for me because they loved 658 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 3: me so much. 659 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: I mean, if someone breaks the window for you, your 660 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: hot stuff, you're like your window breaking material. 661 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 3: Yeah get it, Clara. Yeah, it's like if someone had 662 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 3: a duel over you. It's like wow, like hot hot Yeah, 663 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 3: kind of in the mud. Oh, there we go a 664 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 3: little mud wrestling. 665 00:29:58,440 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, never hurt nobody. 666 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 1: And they also gave her a verbal warning at work 667 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: and said that if ever happened again, that she would 668 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: get a letter in her file. Oh not in her file. Yeah, 669 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: I don't know you even know what that means. The 670 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 1: letter I mean in the big corporate structure. I love you, babe. 671 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: I'll break any windows I need for you. It's been 672 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 1: a fortnight since I spoke to you last night. It's 673 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: the warm embrace of your bosom. Please right back quickly. 674 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. So we still have some comments and updates. 675 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 3: Well, I have one real quick thing about just like 676 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 3: dueling for loved. So apparently in early nineteen hundreds in Germany, 677 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 3: it was like all these German dudes had scars on 678 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 3: their eyes and their faces because it was fashionable to 679 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 3: get scars while dueling. And so, like you know when 680 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 3: you see those those like movies where it's like the 681 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 3: Nazi has like some like crazy scar in their head, 682 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 3: that was actually accurate because they were all dueling with 683 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 3: each other, and some people would just give it to 684 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 3: themselves so they would have a cool scar and it 685 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 3: would look like they were dueling glorious battle. 686 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: That's interesting crazy, But I mean like things people do 687 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: for beauty, for beauty, for love, for love, for love 688 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 1: love wins, get some dueling scars. 689 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, break a window. 690 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: I'm good, break a window. I mean that's one way 691 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: to get a scar my goodness. Oh oh, so Riley 692 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: did some research. In the corporate context, receiving a letter 693 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: in the file often signifies the formal documentation of the 694 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 1: performance disciplinary action, and it's maintained by HR for the 695 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: management process. 696 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 2: So I mean, yeah, it seems like, but what does 697 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 2: it do. 698 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 4: It's just like keeping a tab on you. 699 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 2: It's like not yeah, but it doesn't really do anything. 700 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 2: It doesn't sound like it does anything. 701 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: I guess it's like, hey, we have a record. So 702 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 1: if we go back and like, does this person. 703 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 2: You get two letters next time? It's the history. How 704 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 2: many letters do you need to get fired? Yeah? I 705 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 2: feel like having a random dude that's not even your 706 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 2: man show up and break a window, like you need 707 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 2: more than a letter. 708 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 3: Feotechnically, it wasn't her, Like she didn't break the window, 709 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 3: that's her fault. Like if one of my ex lovers 710 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 3: comes in like break some stuff, it's not my fault. 711 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 2: You're getting a letter. I'm getting letter with it, but 712 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 2: like like I didn't do anything. 713 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 4: Well, we're gonna write one. 714 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, gonna write it. Yeah. Riley is a serial letter writer. 715 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 3: He is. 716 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 2: They're very cute. 717 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,239 Speaker 3: How would my letter start if your ex came in here, 718 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 3: came here and broke a window, Sam. 719 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 4: I'm disappointed. Pick better people. 720 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 2: That's why we broke up. 721 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 4: She can't be in here anymore. 722 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 2: That's why it broke up, and we don't talk. You 723 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 2: should have. 724 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 5: Picked better in the beginning, so she wouldn't do this. 725 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 5: Now my things got broke, I'd be like, I'm very mad. 726 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 5: Here's an invoice, love Love. 727 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 3: I think it's fair for the person to pay. Like, 728 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 3: if one of Riley's x levers broke one of my things. 729 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 2: I would make me pay. You would, yeah, I wouldn't. 730 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 4: I would make you pay better than me now if 731 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 4: you had, if you like, it depends. 732 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 2: On what people hit the back of my car and 733 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 2: I didn't make them pay. Wow. 734 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 4: Wow, he's a good guy like that. 735 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 5: If there's a lamp, dude, it's fun of replacement. I mean, sorry, 736 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 5: we had this lamp that's in the story's lamp. 737 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 2: So she broke the lamp. You would be like, Sam, 738 00:32:58,240 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 2: find another lamp. 739 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah yeah, or like, find something that works in 740 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 5: my room that fits the vibe. Yeah, Like you guys 741 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 5: could have the lamp. I just need someone to find 742 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 5: a lamp that can fit the vibe my room. But 743 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 5: that was just making it happen. 744 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, well we will find a new lamp. 745 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 1: You're getting a lot of insider baseball on his episode, 746 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:19,239 Speaker 1: My goodness. But the lamp saga, the bag saga, it 747 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: goes really, it goes super deep, just like Gary. Oh 748 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: my goodness. And speaking of like Gary, we're gonna keep going. 749 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 1: This comment comes from the Dodsworth. Honestly, hope this is 750 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 1: the end of Gary for the both of you. Massive 751 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 1: red flags to show up at Claire's work like this. Also, 752 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: what the f is Claire's boss giving her an actual 753 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: verbal warning over a potential abuser coming to her workplace unannounced? 754 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 2: Oh, he replies, That's kind of what I was saying. 755 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 2: It's not her fault. 756 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: Oh oh, I thought they were like only is giving 757 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 1: her Oh you're right, you're right. 758 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like why she getting like punished for it? Right? 759 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 3: And here we go, Riley is invoicing me for things 760 00:33:59,400 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 3: I didn't do. 761 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: Clara is still extremely agitated about the incident, but I 762 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 1: don't know that he is completely done just yet. Let's 763 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: just say that Clara may have taken off her rose 764 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: colored glasses. It's been really hard not to pile on 765 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 1: and say I told you so, or make other disparaging 766 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: comments about him. I mean, I understand the temptation. Her 767 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: coworkers and her boss felt like her coworkers and potential 768 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 1: clients that were in the lobby were put at risk 769 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,959 Speaker 1: and the whole thing was grossly unprofessional. They went from 770 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 1: arguing to yelling, and when Gary got physical, Clara had 771 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 1: to go get the security guard to escort him off 772 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 1: the premises. 773 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 3: So she was yelling back, yes, okay, So I can 774 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 3: understand that, Like if it's like someone coming in and 775 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 3: like you know, like Roy in the office where it 776 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 3: comes in and it's like I'm gonna go punch Jim 777 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 3: and then Dwight hits him with the pepper spray, Like, yeah, 778 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 3: that's not Pam's fault. Pam didn't do anything. But if 779 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 3: Pam's arguing with him, like yeah, and that's where I 780 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 3: can see it written in fraction, you're helping escalate. That's 781 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:56,320 Speaker 3: the letter letter worthy. 782 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 2: They talked about that at the office for a while, 783 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 2: I mean, talk about TikTok somewhere the water cooler talk 784 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 2: was heating up. Oh god. 785 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 1: The subject matter and the details were that Gary was 786 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 1: yelling at the top of his lungs. That was evidently 787 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,479 Speaker 1: a bit too scandalous, seeing as I had attended many 788 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 1: company functions as her plus one and was considered her 789 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 1: other half interesting. 790 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 2: So it kind of sounds like it revealed the openness 791 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 2: of their relationship and that the company is kind of 792 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 2: frowning upon that. Rude. 793 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 3: Well, I think what people probably assume is that she 794 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 3: was cheating. 795 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,799 Speaker 1: Yes, they probably don't know what, but she said that 796 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 1: she explained the nature of her relationship to her boss 797 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 1: after the incident. 798 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's allowed to cheat. 799 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, she has a hall pass with the weekly checking. Yeah, 800 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 1: an unlimited hall pass. 801 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 3: But everyone else in the office is probably thinking, like, oh, 802 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:48,320 Speaker 3: she was cheating. 803 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 2: That's true, that's true. What would be talking about this 804 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 2: rumor forever? I mean, come on, it's what else has 805 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:57,799 Speaker 2: happened in her file? She's a cheater? Yeah, Now we 806 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 2: have an update. Friday night, we had a double date 807 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,879 Speaker 2: with another couple and who should show up? But Gary? 808 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 1: Gary was the dateting someone else just to infiltrate the 809 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 1: double bit. 810 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 2: My god. 811 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 1: Dinner followed by one of the favorite bands at a 812 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,319 Speaker 1: club downtown. I seem to remember someone who had a 813 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 1: favorite band. 814 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 2: That he wanted to see. 815 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 1: But I see you in the comments, if you see 816 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:21,359 Speaker 1: what might be about to go down? 817 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 2: Tun'd you there wasn't. This wasn't the end of Garrett. 818 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,360 Speaker 2: Gary's gonna be at the show for sure. Yes, Gary's 819 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:27,800 Speaker 2: the band. 820 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 3: It's like I got fired from my job, so I 821 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:32,400 Speaker 3: started a ska band. 822 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 2: I broke window for you, baby, that's gonna happen. 823 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,359 Speaker 3: I could see that being a good song, right, good 824 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 3: country song. Yeah, I'll break every window. Yeah, because I know. 825 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:52,840 Speaker 6: That from the window to the wall, I will break 826 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:53,319 Speaker 6: it all. 827 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 2: We'll make it through it all. We will have a 828 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 2: ball and I will stand. It's all because I love 829 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 2: you threw it all. Come on, that's the song. Yeah, 830 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 2: that's the second. Well. I woke up this morning with 831 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 2: a heartache. 832 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 6: I found a good bye note and oh, for goodness sakes. 833 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 2: You took my love and you threw it right out. 834 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 1: Now I'm sitting here so full of doubt, spy windows 835 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,359 Speaker 1: shattering dreams. 836 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:34,319 Speaker 6: You love me with all these broke It seems your love. 837 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 3: Was like herricane now cleaning up the mess. 838 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:41,720 Speaker 2: I can't stand the pain. 839 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,879 Speaker 1: Wow, GBT writing songs out here? 840 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:50,439 Speaker 2: Wow do you like that number? I'm downloading it right 841 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 2: now Spotify and saved a to Q pre saved Wow dude, 842 00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,360 Speaker 2: go on. So that was That was beautiful. 843 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 1: Dinner was and we had a good table reserved at 844 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,399 Speaker 1: the club. As I'm coming back from the men's room, 845 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 1: I see who else but Gary, of course, yep, who 846 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:13,240 Speaker 1: has spotted Clara and is making a bee lying Gary. 847 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,360 Speaker 2: Restraining losing points real fast. He does. He needs a 848 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 2: restraining order. 849 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 1: I got to the table first and told Clara we 850 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,400 Speaker 1: needed to leave. Gary told Clara that he needed to 851 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,799 Speaker 1: talk to her, and I said something like in a 852 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 1: week maybe, and then he sucker punched me. 853 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:35,720 Speaker 2: In the face. Gary. Yes, Gary is like very violent. 854 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,319 Speaker 2: He is he is. He punched a window, then he 855 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 2: punched Ope, he did. Op He's just getting freaking this 856 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,560 Speaker 2: shit kicked out of him emotionally. No, he can't win. 857 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 2: That's what he gets for not setting clear ground rules. 858 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,839 Speaker 1: Opie, cannot win. I got up from the floor and 859 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 1: just looked at him and he hit me again. Oh 860 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 1: my god. By that time, the bouncers had him and 861 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,839 Speaker 1: we were walking him to the door. By the time 862 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 1: I got to the door, the hops had him and 863 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 1: asked if I wanted to press charges, and I said absolutely. 864 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 1: I took a selfie to preserve the moment. He blooded 865 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 1: me up pretty good. Needless to say, we didn't stay 866 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,880 Speaker 1: for the show. Clara drove us home and on the 867 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 1: way asked if I was really gonna press charges, yes, 868 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 1: and if maybe it would be better if we just 869 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:20,719 Speaker 1: let it go. 870 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 2: See, I think Gary's making a comeback. 871 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:28,439 Speaker 3: Oh god, after this, how can Clara before this guy's. 872 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,800 Speaker 2: Told you, Clara hasn't been ready to quit it yet. 873 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,320 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, She's waiting for that two weeks to 874 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 2: come up and then she's going to have to evaluate 875 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 2: her options. This is insane. 876 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 1: My goodness, I said no, I was assaulted and he 877 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:44,719 Speaker 1: wasn't going to get away with that. By the time 878 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 1: we got home, my face was swollen in changing color. Jesus, 879 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 1: and when Clara saw my face she just cried. She 880 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 1: cleaned me up and got a couple of ice packs 881 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,360 Speaker 1: for the swelling. She called Gary, which went to voicemail, obviously, 882 00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,400 Speaker 1: but she told him off and said that he had 883 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,760 Speaker 1: gone too and she never wanted to hear from him again. 884 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,320 Speaker 2: There we go until the end of the two weeks. 885 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, oh god, please no, let that be the 886 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:14,400 Speaker 1: next sentence update, and then added, we were filling a 887 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 1: VPO asap. 888 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 2: And what is a VPO A violent possession order, violent 889 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 2: person order. That sounds more, sounds very accurate. 890 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:27,279 Speaker 1: Victim protection order, victim protection order, that makes we got 891 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,640 Speaker 1: order right, Yeah, there we go, here we go. This 892 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 1: morning we talked mainly about ways to keep this from 893 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 1: getting out of hand. She set some new boundaries for 894 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,760 Speaker 1: herself and a limit on how long she could spend 895 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,280 Speaker 1: time with a new partner. 896 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 3: Okay, cool, So they now are making sure they have 897 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 3: good rules for this relationship. 898 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 2: I mean it took long enough. She was really holding 899 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 2: on to Gary. Oh my god. 900 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,759 Speaker 1: She set some pretty tight parameters that I won't hold 901 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:57,879 Speaker 1: her to because they're not realistic. 902 00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 2: I think they are. I don't even know what they are, 903 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,280 Speaker 2: but a more realistic than what was in line before 904 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:03,280 Speaker 2: that was correct. 905 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,359 Speaker 1: We both have said some hurtful things in the last 906 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 1: few weeks that have left some deep wounds, but I 907 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,480 Speaker 1: think we can get past it, if we can get 908 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,479 Speaker 1: back to where we were. I'm thinking about asking her 909 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 1: to marry me. 910 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:20,920 Speaker 3: Oh god, after all this, Oh now, this has instilled 911 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 3: confidence in the relationship walking down. 912 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,799 Speaker 2: I mean, clearly she's got something going on over here. 913 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 4: Oh my god. 914 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:29,479 Speaker 2: I know she wants it. 915 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,439 Speaker 1: And thinks it will bind us closer together, but there 916 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 1: is some trust that needs to be built first. 917 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 3: No shit, I would not rush into marriage, my guy. 918 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 3: I would not rush in wow. Wow, what do you think, Zach? 919 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:45,880 Speaker 3: Do you think they should get married? 920 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,319 Speaker 2: Yes? And I want Gary at the wedding return of 921 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 2: the Gary. Oh oh exactly. We need that moment. God. 922 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,279 Speaker 2: You're just here for the living, for the tea in 923 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 2: the want all the tea. Oh my god. I just 924 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 2: need to know what does Gary look like. I have 925 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:07,799 Speaker 2: so many questions about Gary. I need context. I see 926 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,239 Speaker 2: hihim oh. I feel like Gary's pretty hot. I don't 927 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,399 Speaker 2: think Gary is hot at all. You don't Thinky's hot now. 928 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 2: I think he's like a big berry man that's bald. 929 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:20,440 Speaker 3: I think he's like Thor. No, I think he's I 930 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,440 Speaker 3: think he's hot in Thor like No. 931 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,279 Speaker 1: I think because I think he like attacks people in 932 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 1: like a drunk like sad way, you know, like even 933 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 1: if he's. 934 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 3: Not, I think it's still drunk. And sad, even if 935 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 3: Thor is beating you up. But it's like. 936 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 2: Thor is not beating anybody yet. No, no, no, I mean no, 937 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,480 Speaker 2: he is not being anybody. Gary is not beating anybody up. 938 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 2: Garry just beat up. It's yeah, what about very bad? 939 00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,319 Speaker 2: He's face change color and. 940 00:42:53,560 --> 00:43:00,319 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, crazy Gary is class one maniac. But we 941 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,160 Speaker 1: have some relevant comments. This is from another throwaway throw 942 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:04,920 Speaker 1: away two to five five zeros or one? 943 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 2: Are people thrown away so much? That's the question that 944 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 2: needs to answer. Yeah, they need to throw away this relationship. 945 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,400 Speaker 1: Yes, that is what needs to be thrown away. Honestly, 946 00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 1: I said it in another post. Clara asking you not 947 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,239 Speaker 1: to press charges would be the final nail in the 948 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:19,959 Speaker 1: coffin for me, the. 949 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,160 Speaker 2: Final There were like ten other nails, but I feel 950 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,319 Speaker 2: like I have really sealed that at least at least 951 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:25,080 Speaker 2: it should have been this. 952 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,080 Speaker 1: If ever a partner said that to me, especially after 953 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 1: specifically what had happened to you, that would be it. 954 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:34,319 Speaker 3: Honestly, are you okay? Are you physically okay? And like, 955 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,440 Speaker 3: are you sure you want to jump into this no 956 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,440 Speaker 3: emotional frickin' landfill? 957 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:43,600 Speaker 1: To that point, maybe you should reevaluate your relationship. Really, 958 00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:45,640 Speaker 1: it is not cool. And I get the sense that 959 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,759 Speaker 1: you were trying to rugsweep the severity of her actions. 960 00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:53,560 Speaker 3: Yes, exactly that everything that happened, even though it ended 961 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 3: up in a spot that Op liked, is not excusable 962 00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:57,319 Speaker 3: and it is. 963 00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,240 Speaker 2: A massive red flag. 964 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,920 Speaker 3: We've witnessed like red flag after red flag in this story, 965 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,680 Speaker 3: Like we basically could have been waiving this flag the 966 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:07,480 Speaker 3: entire story. 967 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:11,600 Speaker 2: See. But I think Gary's mind type what the bear type? No, 968 00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,759 Speaker 2: like the red flag type, the red flag my favorite. 969 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:16,920 Speaker 2: You love the red flag. That's why I think I'm 970 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:18,239 Speaker 2: rooting for Gary at the end of this. 971 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,719 Speaker 3: Because you just want an opportunity to throw everything out 972 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:22,160 Speaker 3: on the lawn. 973 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:29,520 Speaker 2: Yes, that's childhood years. Yes, we haven't had any long Yeah. No, 974 00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,360 Speaker 2: I mean I don't like any of them. I was 975 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,440 Speaker 2: trying to find which character is the most redeeming even No, 976 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,720 Speaker 2: even OPI's not like he needs to go to therapy, 977 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:40,440 Speaker 2: he needs to he needs to learn how to love. 978 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I don't feel like Ope loves himself enough. 979 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, like all these things are happening, and like 980 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:48,560 Speaker 1: remember when Op was like, oh, I feel like this 981 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,440 Speaker 1: might be cruel and an addictive. It's like, no, like 982 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 1: you deserve someone who's just like, Hey, I'm gonna be 983 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 1: here for you and I'm not going to like run 984 00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,600 Speaker 1: around and break our trust and break the rules we set. 985 00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:00,960 Speaker 2: Like I don't know, but they didn't had any rules 986 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:08,239 Speaker 2: basically not she follow God, which is so crazy. Wow, 987 00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:12,120 Speaker 2: if she that should not be trusted. She didn't break 988 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,640 Speaker 2: any rules and she picked op in the end. 989 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:19,400 Speaker 1: I think she's a hero in this story, Voldemort turning 990 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:24,319 Speaker 1: around question mark. She She's definitely a serpent tongue, that's 991 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:24,719 Speaker 1: for sure. 992 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,120 Speaker 2: I think I do have Voldemort somewhere in here. 993 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,600 Speaker 1: I didn't even realize the connection that this was the 994 00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:32,480 Speaker 1: Harry Potter set. 995 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:33,919 Speaker 4: You didn't know it was a Harry Potter set. 996 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,719 Speaker 2: I did. But wait, is this this is nearly the 997 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:44,600 Speaker 2: same who Tom Riddle? Where does this go? I don't know. 998 00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,520 Speaker 5: Off it fell off on the left right where the 999 00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:51,200 Speaker 5: white guy with the snake is holding. 1000 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,040 Speaker 2: It feels like it's not meant to have a pokey. 1001 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,200 Speaker 2: I'm going to put it right here. Hokey pokey, there 1002 00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:55,480 Speaker 2: we go. 1003 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:57,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like something like that. 1004 00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,160 Speaker 2: That feels like, so this is Tom Riddle opening up 1005 00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:00,000 Speaker 2: the chamber of secrets. 1006 00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:06,120 Speaker 1: That's scary that and that's what she deserves. So Opie 1007 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,640 Speaker 1: responded to all this saying, Clara asking you. So he's 1008 00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,680 Speaker 1: talking about the part where about Clara asking to not 1009 00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:13,839 Speaker 1: press charges. The bar was dark and then she never 1010 00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,760 Speaker 1: got a good look at my face until we got. 1011 00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:20,440 Speaker 2: Home, and so she was like it was fun. Come on, 1012 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,000 Speaker 2: She's trying him not to press charges while not look 1013 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,880 Speaker 2: getting a clear shot of his face. She saw everything 1014 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:29,200 Speaker 2: that happened though, Like she saw him like, yeah, ack him. 1015 00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,359 Speaker 3: The shit kicked out of him, and she's like, it's 1016 00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,080 Speaker 3: not that bad, suck it up. And then she's had 1017 00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,320 Speaker 3: his face and she's like, oh, oh sorry. 1018 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,880 Speaker 1: By then it had started to swell and turn colors. 1019 00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,280 Speaker 1: I don't think she thought I got hurt that bad. 1020 00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,680 Speaker 1: And when she realized it, she did one eighty and 1021 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,120 Speaker 1: unloaded on him, even if it was just a voicemail. 1022 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,200 Speaker 1: At first she said she thought filing charges would make 1023 00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,640 Speaker 1: things worse, and later she was all for it. 1024 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:55,040 Speaker 2: Okay, so she's coming around. Yeah, but again just red 1025 00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:58,080 Speaker 2: flag after red flag. I don't know she's redeeming herself. 1026 00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,799 Speaker 2: It's a kiro arc. She is trying to come back. 1027 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,359 Speaker 2: She is attempting to long enough. I think she can 1028 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 2: come back to someone else. I don't think he needs 1029 00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:10,840 Speaker 2: to be around. Yeah, his relationship needs to be done. Yeah, yeah, Like, 1030 00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:12,279 Speaker 2: I don't know if you can come back from this. 1031 00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:15,120 Speaker 2: It's just so much like at the wedding though, and 1032 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,759 Speaker 2: he's like, oh, you know, she left me and I 1033 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,640 Speaker 2: thought we were done and then we've been through it 1034 00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:21,680 Speaker 2: all together. 1035 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:26,600 Speaker 3: And the air that wedding, this whole reddit post, it's like, 1036 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,560 Speaker 3: and this is proved that we should be married to 1037 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:33,720 Speaker 3: everyone in the audiences love wins. In the end, Gary 1038 00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:38,240 Speaker 3: almost won. Gary kot it was Gary one zero. Yeah, 1039 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:43,160 Speaker 3: exactly Gary, Gary one, at least in terms in physically, 1040 00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:44,680 Speaker 3: I'm not for this relationship. 1041 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:49,800 Speaker 2: Well, gentlemen, yes, John, we have one final concluding update. 1042 00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:53,840 Speaker 2: Let's hit it, because yeah, this is this is emotionally, 1043 00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,960 Speaker 2: this is a roller coaster. This has been a saga. 1044 00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,640 Speaker 2: I swear if Gary comes back, Gary's going to come back. 1045 00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:00,440 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. 1046 00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:05,200 Speaker 3: I Gary's like a cockroach. I pray a nuclear freakin' cockroach. 1047 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:07,160 Speaker 3: Cockula roach. 1048 00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:12,440 Speaker 1: So I filed assault charges against Gary after the depositions. 1049 00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:16,000 Speaker 1: The assistant district attorney filed a felony assault charge against 1050 00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:19,200 Speaker 1: him and had a judge issue a victim protective order 1051 00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:20,560 Speaker 1: for me and Clara. 1052 00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:21,799 Speaker 2: Wow. 1053 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,840 Speaker 1: Oh wow, I didn't even register. That is a felony. 1054 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:29,640 Speaker 1: Good good, my god. I received a letter from Gary's 1055 00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,960 Speaker 1: lawyer with an apology and a plea for dropping the 1056 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:36,759 Speaker 1: assault charge because it would trigger action from a deferred 1057 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:41,719 Speaker 1: sentence he had in another case. Sounds like Gary has 1058 00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:46,920 Speaker 1: some behaviors that are and also it's like coherent to end. 1059 00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,680 Speaker 2: It's like, oh, very Gary beat someone else up, so 1060 00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:50,799 Speaker 2: they want to like punish it more. 1061 00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:55,359 Speaker 1: It's like, uh, yeah, good history ti. 1062 00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, He's like, yeah, he didn't get punished the first time. 1063 00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,000 Speaker 3: Can you make sure he doesn't getunies in this second? 1064 00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:01,880 Speaker 2: Hello? Please? 1065 00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,640 Speaker 1: I spoke with the assistant district attorney and reaffirmed my 1066 00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:09,680 Speaker 1: resolve in my case. Last Thursday, Gary entered into a 1067 00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:13,680 Speaker 1: plea deal, pleaded no contest, and received a six month 1068 00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:17,759 Speaker 1: jail sentence versus the three to five years that he 1069 00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:21,280 Speaker 1: could have received, also with three years on probation. 1070 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,719 Speaker 2: What does no contest mean? I think, Oh, I'm not guilty, 1071 00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,400 Speaker 2: I'm not innocent. Whatever you think I am is what 1072 00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:32,000 Speaker 2: I am. Oh. So it's like you get to decide. Basically, 1073 00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:34,720 Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, it's like, I'm not entering a plea 1074 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,399 Speaker 2: I'll let you determine how it all shakes out. You're 1075 00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,080 Speaker 2: relinquishing your opportunity to take like a plea deal or 1076 00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,560 Speaker 2: to fight it. You're just like, I'll let the evidence. 1077 00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,120 Speaker 4: Put in itself. Just accept the punishment. And they don't 1078 00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:46,000 Speaker 4: like you said. 1079 00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:49,239 Speaker 3: Oh, okay, so he's not contesting the punishment, correct. 1080 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,360 Speaker 1: And does that do you know if that gives generally 1081 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,560 Speaker 1: gives because a plea deal, I imagine would get would 1082 00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:54,440 Speaker 1: be like, well. 1083 00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:55,680 Speaker 2: Only if there's a deal to take. 1084 00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,320 Speaker 3: He accepted the plea deal, which if you accept the 1085 00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:01,720 Speaker 3: plea deal, that plead guilty. 1086 00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:05,000 Speaker 2: Oh, if you accept a plea deal, you're clean guilty 1087 00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,560 Speaker 2: and they'll give you They'll say, okay, your sentence is 1088 00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,600 Speaker 2: five years, Well we'll give you one year with probation 1089 00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:12,719 Speaker 2: if you say that you're guilty. And so you're like, 1090 00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:16,120 Speaker 2: rather than taking this to court and possibly facing five years, 1091 00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:17,719 Speaker 2: I'll take a plea deal, say I'm guilty and on 1092 00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:19,399 Speaker 2: the get one year. But in this case he did, 1093 00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,680 Speaker 2: he pleaded no contest, just to let it all kind 1094 00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:23,880 Speaker 2: of shake out. There's probably no plea deal on the table, 1095 00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:25,400 Speaker 2: given that he has a history. 1096 00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:29,280 Speaker 1: Okay, and he's like, at least he retains his uh, 1097 00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:30,680 Speaker 1: not his innocence, but his. 1098 00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:33,919 Speaker 2: Never he didn't plead guilty. Oh my god, he knows 1099 00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:34,640 Speaker 2: he's not innocent. 1100 00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,600 Speaker 1: So he's basically going to serve a six month jail 1101 00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:39,560 Speaker 1: sentence and have three years on probation. 1102 00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:41,359 Speaker 3: At least he's getting a little bit of jail time. 1103 00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:42,600 Speaker 3: Like I feel like that's important. 1104 00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:43,359 Speaker 2: Yes. Yes. 1105 00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:47,719 Speaker 1: The judge also issued a restraining order barring any contact 1106 00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:51,960 Speaker 1: between Gary and either of us for five years after 1107 00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,200 Speaker 1: he gets out of jail, So like, really five and 1108 00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,919 Speaker 1: a half years, because in jail for six months. God, 1109 00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,719 Speaker 1: if Clara goes back now, Claria goes back now. So 1110 00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:05,000 Speaker 1: for Claria, she has been to her personal therapist four 1111 00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,400 Speaker 1: times in the last two weeks and is going once 1112 00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,360 Speaker 1: every other week going forward. We just had our second 1113 00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,799 Speaker 1: couple's counseling session Friday. I don't know all the details 1114 00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:17,520 Speaker 1: from her, but we have structured a check in conversation 1115 00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:19,000 Speaker 1: a free week now. 1116 00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,600 Speaker 2: Oh, the weekly check in. They're back. 1117 00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:27,160 Speaker 3: Oh sick. The relationship is going to be fine. I 1118 00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:28,799 Speaker 3: thought they weren't going to have a weekly check in 1119 00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:30,600 Speaker 3: and so I was worried. But now that they have one, 1120 00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:32,040 Speaker 3: it's gonna be all good. 1121 00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:35,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought Garry ruined all moore. Gary's coming up. Wow. 1122 00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,520 Speaker 1: She has had two panic attacks that her therapist has 1123 00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:40,960 Speaker 1: said were triggered by the guilt and self shaming that 1124 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,080 Speaker 1: she is working on. She has closed her side of 1125 00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:44,520 Speaker 1: the relationship for the near future. 1126 00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:48,839 Speaker 2: Thank god, her side. Yeah, I guess Gary oh pie 1127 00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,640 Speaker 2: still slang in that's right, Yes, I think so. 1128 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,880 Speaker 1: And when she feels ready, it will only be kink 1129 00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:58,040 Speaker 1: in couples events where we play together. After missing the 1130 00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:01,520 Speaker 1: numerous red flags with Gary, she had zero self confidence 1131 00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,560 Speaker 1: in her ability to recognize the warning flags when getting 1132 00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,480 Speaker 1: into a relationship, and she set a list of boundaries 1133 00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,440 Speaker 1: if she ever decides to date solo again that even 1134 00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,040 Speaker 1: our couple's therapist found a bit over the top. 1135 00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:14,520 Speaker 2: Here are the highlights. 1136 00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:18,760 Speaker 1: Zero to three months, six hour date maximum, twelve pm 1137 00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:20,280 Speaker 1: curfew once a week max. 1138 00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:22,080 Speaker 2: Why is that hurt? Crazy? 1139 00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:27,359 Speaker 3: What kind of therapists are they getting where it's just like, whoa. 1140 00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:30,040 Speaker 1: What if it's a polyamorous relationship therapist, because I mean 1141 00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:30,760 Speaker 1: that is their. 1142 00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, poly therapist? Does that exist? Let us know in 1143 00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:35,600 Speaker 2: the comments, does that mean you're open and you're allowed 1144 00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:37,200 Speaker 2: to see other therapists. 1145 00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,600 Speaker 1: Zach with the ziggers, ladies and gentlemen, and then the 1146 00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:44,560 Speaker 1: other stipulation if it's three to nine months in ten 1147 00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:48,120 Speaker 1: hours date max, one am curfew, no overnights once a 1148 00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,480 Speaker 1: week and only one weekend day a month. 1149 00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,799 Speaker 2: I mean I do like these. I do like is strong? 1150 00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:57,160 Speaker 3: Sure, Yeah, it's very clear, Like if you're going home 1151 00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,120 Speaker 3: past twelve, then you've broken your rule. 1152 00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,040 Speaker 1: I'm just like, yes, Like it's good that she's setting 1153 00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:02,719 Speaker 1: it for herself so. 1154 00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:05,439 Speaker 2: Late to be out twelve. Yeah, with like somebody else 1155 00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,080 Speaker 2: that's not your partner. I agree, Yeah, I agree. And 1156 00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:09,880 Speaker 2: if you behave you get an extra hour? Like what 1157 00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:11,719 Speaker 2: are you doing with this extra hour? 1158 00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:16,560 Speaker 1: Banging On a positive note, she is eating better and 1159 00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:18,640 Speaker 1: trying to go two to three days a week to 1160 00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:20,719 Speaker 1: the gym before she goes to work, and wants to 1161 00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:22,880 Speaker 1: get an exercise bike for the house. As for me, 1162 00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,560 Speaker 1: I ended up canceling a date with my other partner 1163 00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,120 Speaker 1: and due to scheduling conflicts, we won't see each other 1164 00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:31,040 Speaker 1: until after Labor Day. I forgot that OPI has literally 1165 00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:34,520 Speaker 1: been dating other people this entire time. I cannot even imagine. 1166 00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:37,239 Speaker 3: I feel like there's so much to go through emotionally 1167 00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:40,000 Speaker 3: in this relationship. I don't know how I would function 1168 00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,880 Speaker 3: like just being in a relationship with anyone else. Yeah, 1169 00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:44,520 Speaker 3: even if it was just physical, I feel like I 1170 00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:45,320 Speaker 3: would too much. 1171 00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:49,160 Speaker 4: Or it could be a nice distraction escape from reality. 1172 00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:51,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like I wouldn't be able to do it. 1173 00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:53,799 Speaker 2: Opie needs an escape. I don't know. 1174 00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,400 Speaker 1: I don't think this is it, but oh my god, 1175 00:53:56,600 --> 00:54:00,000 Speaker 1: so I have plenty of time to devote to mending fences. 1176 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:03,239 Speaker 1: A couple's therapists said we both had blame in our crisses, 1177 00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:06,600 Speaker 1: mainly in our communication skills. She was particularly hard on 1178 00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,120 Speaker 1: Clara at the beginning when Clara told her side of 1179 00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,239 Speaker 1: the story. I have put most of it behind me, 1180 00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,120 Speaker 1: but I know going forward, I will doubt Claire's judgment 1181 00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:14,880 Speaker 1: on some things. 1182 00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,640 Speaker 3: I mean, she hasn't proven herself to be a very 1183 00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:18,320 Speaker 3: good judge. 1184 00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:20,200 Speaker 2: I think she's bleeding. No contest on that. 1185 00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,880 Speaker 1: The subject of our future plans came up, and marriage 1186 00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,759 Speaker 1: came up, but our therapist said to not rush or 1187 00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:28,400 Speaker 1: think of it as a solution to our problem. 1188 00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:30,920 Speaker 3: That is a good therapist. Thank God, shout out to 1189 00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:31,640 Speaker 3: your therapist. 1190 00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,080 Speaker 1: Last year, before everything blew up, my mom gave me 1191 00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,520 Speaker 1: my great grandmother's wedding ring set. Being the first and 1192 00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,640 Speaker 1: favorite grandchild, she left her engagement slash wedding ring set 1193 00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:42,319 Speaker 1: and my great grandfather's wedding ring to me. And last 1194 00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:44,840 Speaker 1: year I was thinking about proposing and had all the 1195 00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:48,759 Speaker 1: rings resized in case the moment ever presented itself. The 1196 00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:50,960 Speaker 1: Julia that did the work gave me an appraisal and 1197 00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,719 Speaker 1: suggested that I ensure it, and I had added it 1198 00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,920 Speaker 1: to my homeowner's policy. My insurance agent is also friends 1199 00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:59,240 Speaker 1: with my sister and let it slip, and my sister 1200 00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:02,800 Speaker 1: now wants the rings for her upcoming wedding this fall. 1201 00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:04,919 Speaker 2: Another Reddit story brewing in the mix. 1202 00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:09,120 Speaker 1: My God, So my sister said something to Clara, who, 1203 00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:12,600 Speaker 1: after some snooping, found the rings. 1204 00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:16,400 Speaker 2: Oh, I thought she'd found out about their relationship and Gary, 1205 00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:18,799 Speaker 2: Oh she found the rings. Oh, she found the ring. 1206 00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,319 Speaker 1: She might know about the relationship, but she definitely knew 1207 00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:25,400 Speaker 1: about the rings and told Clara, who found them, that's soft. 1208 00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,279 Speaker 1: My sister is mad, but my mom told her to 1209 00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,680 Speaker 1: suck it up. Clara admitted to find the rings and 1210 00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,680 Speaker 1: trying them on, and has been all dough eyed whenever 1211 00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,880 Speaker 1: the subject gets brought up. For now, no one is 1212 00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:38,719 Speaker 1: getting the rings, and I have moved them to a 1213 00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,680 Speaker 1: secure location. But now everybody wants to know what they 1214 00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:48,000 Speaker 1: were praised for. Forty three thousand dollars. That's a lot, right, yeah, Sealem, 1215 00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:51,160 Speaker 1: that's yeah. How much does a wedding like a wedding ring? 1216 00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:53,600 Speaker 2: Months? Three months? How much? 1217 00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:53,799 Speaker 3: Well? 1218 00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:55,959 Speaker 1: Now, now these are three rings, the appraisal of three 1219 00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:59,160 Speaker 1: separate rings. But let's step STI buy that forty three 1220 00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:02,120 Speaker 1: divided by three is a fourteen point each. 1221 00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:06,279 Speaker 2: That's that's more reasonable. But what a saga? Right? What 1222 00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:09,200 Speaker 2: a saga? Is there more? Are there more updates? Like 1223 00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:10,200 Speaker 2: the story never ends? 1224 00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:14,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like, I've never really wanted to be in 1225 00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:17,600 Speaker 3: an open relationship and all of the stories that talk 1226 00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:21,160 Speaker 3: about open relationships make me want to be in one less. 1227 00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very common with like gay guys to be 1228 00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:27,200 Speaker 2: really in open relationships. I just couldn't could not do that. 1229 00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,399 Speaker 2: I would fall in love with Gary, yeah, and then 1230 00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:32,960 Speaker 2: leave and like poor op, Like if I had an OP, 1231 00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:33,879 Speaker 2: like I just. 1232 00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:37,319 Speaker 3: It is inevitable that it happens, but the chances are high, 1233 00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:38,480 Speaker 3: they're pretty inevitable. 1234 00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,680 Speaker 2: Someone's gonna get hurt. Yeah, unless you have really really 1235 00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,600 Speaker 2: good rules. Well, someone's gonna get hurt, whether it's your 1236 00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:46,400 Speaker 2: partner or somebody that falls in love with you, and 1237 00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,480 Speaker 2: then they can't be what are the extraneous partners? Yeah, 1238 00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:51,239 Speaker 2: and then you're stuck in the middle, and not the 1239 00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,200 Speaker 2: kind of way that you like it, you know. 1240 00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:55,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that has to happen, like damn near 1241 00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:58,600 Speaker 1: one hundred percent, because it's like someone's going to be 1242 00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:01,239 Speaker 1: interested in you because you're dating a people and maybe 1243 00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:02,600 Speaker 1: they're like, I want it exclusive. 1244 00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:03,839 Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know, and then I guess 1245 00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:05,919 Speaker 2: you just shut Yeah. 1246 00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,680 Speaker 1: Not fair, But you know what is fair and wonderful 1247 00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:14,840 Speaker 1: is that we have one final small storory, a teeny 1248 00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:15,600 Speaker 1: tiny one I have. 1249 00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:18,920 Speaker 4: I have the prostitute thing about making extra holes. 1250 00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,160 Speaker 2: Oh oh, okay story tiled? 1251 00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:26,640 Speaker 3: Okay story answer answer you fool? 1252 00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:33,040 Speaker 4: Hello, Hey Daniel real quick, can you please explain to me? 1253 00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:35,000 Speaker 2: So this is Riley's okay story? 1254 00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:37,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, this is You're on okay storytime right now? 1255 00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:40,120 Speaker 5: Can you please explain to me the extra hole that 1256 00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:41,880 Speaker 5: the prostitute had in Chattanooga. 1257 00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:44,200 Speaker 4: Well, yes, this was in Georgia. 1258 00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:48,919 Speaker 2: Oh but so she got a gold glider out. 1259 00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:52,080 Speaker 4: This is what the EMP said the ambulance on the scene. 1260 00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,400 Speaker 2: They said that she got her gold blider actually had 1261 00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:57,120 Speaker 2: a bag that drained file from her gold glider. She 1262 00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:03,840 Speaker 2: would take this bag out and let people do with Oh, 1263 00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:08,360 Speaker 2: quite disgusting. It was the wole located. 1264 00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:09,520 Speaker 4: Where was the hole located? 1265 00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,800 Speaker 2: It was like around the rib cage. I believe a 1266 00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:19,000 Speaker 2: strange spot. Oh strange. Thank you. 1267 00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:23,800 Speaker 4: I'm sorry you had to hear that. Thank you, Thank you, Daniel. 1268 00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:27,560 Speaker 3: We will wait, does is there were there any reports 1269 00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,240 Speaker 3: on either end of the sensation? 1270 00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,120 Speaker 4: Oh yeah? How many? How many times does the guys 1271 00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:32,720 Speaker 4: go back to her? 1272 00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:34,560 Speaker 2: Probably as they wanted. 1273 00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:37,200 Speaker 5: I don't think we know, but that's all he knows. 1274 00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:41,040 Speaker 5: Like how many holes a person could have? And Sam 1275 00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:43,240 Speaker 5: said you could create holes and then he made his 1276 00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:44,520 Speaker 5: hands circles. 1277 00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:47,000 Speaker 2: But you can also create holes surgically. 1278 00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:48,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you Daniel. 1279 00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:55,000 Speaker 3: No, wow, wow, Well that was I'm gonna throw up. 1280 00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:08,120 Speaker 3: I'm gonna oh come oh no, I'm sorry, I'm sorry 1281 00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,600 Speaker 3: for that. It was just low hanging fruit that I 1282 00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:11,360 Speaker 3: had to pick up. 1283 00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:15,520 Speaker 2: Did she Yeah, I have so many fallows. Has anyone 1284 00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:19,160 Speaker 2: ever heard of that? Your answers below. Okay. I do 1285 00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:22,000 Speaker 2: have a story for you, though, Okay, a short one 1286 00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:25,200 Speaker 2: to close us out. Maybe does it beat the extra 1287 00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:26,200 Speaker 2: hole in the prostitute? 1288 00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:28,840 Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know. I don't I don't think it could. 1289 00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:29,880 Speaker 3: Which one Riley