1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,559 Speaker 1: Two thousand seventeen Pro Bowl Vote is here. It's time 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: to vote for the NFL's best players to earn their 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 1: spot at Pro Bowl, where the best meets the next. 4 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: Help your favorite player earn a coveted spot on the 5 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl roster Today at NFL dot com slash Pro 6 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 1: Bowl Votes and now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah 7 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: and Bucky Brooks. What's up, everybody, DJ? Bucky here? Moved 8 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: the sticks in Bucky. We had a wild college football 9 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: weekend which we need to hit at the end of 10 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 1: the show today we'll go third mine. We thought about 11 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 1: those big upsets that took place. We need to get 12 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 1: into some of these NFL games we saw from the weekend. 13 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 1: It was an awesome game. College was fantastic in the 14 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:48,319 Speaker 1: NFL delivered this week finally hit in the stride when 15 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: it comes to football games. I think everyone is settled 16 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: in in the National Football League. Guys are very comfortable 17 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: in what they're doing. I think we're finally seeing the 18 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: kind of play that we typically expect in the National 19 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: Football League. Week ten was outstanding from beginning to end. 20 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: Even the Monday night game was a pretty good game 21 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 1: until the end. So I was pretty excited. And Uh. 22 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 1: One of the things too, we always talk about scouting 23 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: the money down is what down, Buck, third down? Money 24 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: down got to get off the field if you're on defense, 25 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 1: and you've gotta find a way to make plays because 26 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: you have to win on third down. So I've got 27 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: our our researcher, Bill Smith, our researcher extraordinaire, has got 28 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: me a bunch of stats for who's who's performing on 29 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: third down, who's making things happen. So well, we'll get 30 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: into that a little bit later as well, but I 31 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: think we need to start with the news of the day, Buck, 32 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,839 Speaker 1: And it's not that app State was upset by Troy Um. 33 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 1: It is that Jared Goff has been named the starting 34 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: quarterback of I guess we say our We're in Los Angeles, 35 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: our l A Ramps. Surprised by the timing of this. 36 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: You knew it was coming, it had been building. Surprised 37 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: that they're doing it coming off of win. But this 38 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: offense for the Rams touchdown and they haven't been exciting 39 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: at all, and so you you wondered how long they 40 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: would be able to wait, especially with all of the 41 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: young quarterbacks that are playing in playing pretty well you 42 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: can't have the number one overall picks it traded up 43 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: for At some point you want to show him off 44 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: and maybe he's settled in, maybe he's made tremendous strides 45 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: in progress from the time we saw him in the preseason. 46 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: I still think it's working against him because the common 47 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: denominator that we've seen for those those young quarterbacks that 48 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: are thriving, Dak Prescott, Carson wentz Uh even some of 49 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: the other guys. Offensive line play needs to be strong, 50 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: Derek cars play how it's exploded. Have to be able 51 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: to run the ball when you want to run it, 52 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: and you have to have playmakers around. When I look 53 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: at the Rams, yeah, with the offensive line play, yeah, 54 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: in terms of Ti Gurley hasn't been able to run 55 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: the ball the way that we would like. And then 56 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: the playmakers, I mean Kenny Brett, Tabon Austin any Brett 57 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 1: had a forearm catch last week. I've seen one handed catch. 58 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: He caught the ball this forearm. I mean, that's it. 59 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: So I hope they aren't setting them up to fail. 60 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 1: But I also understand the pressure that they feel from 61 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: the outside. People want to see it. In the more 62 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: pick play, well, we always talk about we use our 63 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: trucks and trailers analogy, whether you're not you're a quarterback 64 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: that pulls other people along with you, or you're somebody 65 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: that gets pulled by your teammates. You spend the number 66 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: one pick on a guy and you trade up and 67 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: get him, you expect him to be a truck and 68 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: you expect him to make everybody around him better and 69 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 1: cover up some of these issues. That's the challenge. That's 70 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:13,839 Speaker 1: a lot of pressure on the young quarterback. You're right though, 71 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: you I mean when you're taking in the top five 72 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 1: were you're talking and taking number one, You're supposed to 73 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: be a franchise player, a guy that can kind of 74 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 1: handle the weight that comes along with lifting a bad 75 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: franchise and so a lot of pressure on Jared Golf. 76 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: Hopefully he's able to slow it down. I like the 77 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: talent that I saw when he was at Kale. I 78 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: like the skill set. I liked all those things. Are 79 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: worried about the transition from his offense to the style 80 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: of offense that they may play with the rams as 81 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: much pressures on him. I think there's a lot of 82 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: pressure on the coaching staff because everyone has looked around 83 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: the league and seeing how people have adapted to allow 84 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: these young quarterbacks to thrive. If the Rams don't show 85 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: the versatility to kind of take some of the things 86 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: that he did at Kale and put him in a 87 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: situation where he flourishes, a lot of pressure goes back 88 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: on the coaching staff before they even get to Jared Golf. Yeah, 89 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 1: what how do you How do they use him and 90 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: what do you think they do? You talked about using 91 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: some of the things that they did at Cow in 92 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: your opinion, what's the best way to kind of get 93 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: him go? First? Start first, give me the script first. 94 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: First thing for me, I'm gonna trying to empty it 95 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: out a little bit. I want to empty out empty backfield, 96 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: have all my receivers out so he can identify if 97 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: their blitzing or if they're in coverage. Spread. I want 98 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: to spread them out like he was able to do 99 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: at cal. I want to have some easy throws from him, 100 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: some motions, some stacks, some shifts where I can kind 101 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: of get them going, a couple of layups. I think 102 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: it's important that he completes for out of the first five, 103 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 1: six out of first eight to kind of get a rhythm. 104 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: See the ball going to basket, and if they do that, 105 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: then I think he can have success. You also gotta 106 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 1: run the ball. I don't want to like if I 107 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: have a pitch count. I want to keep him at 108 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: twenty four or fewer past attempts. If I can, can, 109 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 1: I give you my prediction of the first ten I'll 110 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: say the first ten throws. Okay, of the first ten throws, 111 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: I will predict that half of them, five of them 112 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 1: bubble screens, unnals, bubbles, or just pure screen. Just just 113 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: get the ball to running back in the screen. I 114 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 1: bet you five of his first ten throws are at 115 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: or behind the line of scrimmage. I wouldn't doubt that. 116 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: I would also like to see them do some things 117 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: because Todd Gurley hasn't being able to have success. Maybe 118 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 1: having Jerry Goff and more shotgun run game, maybe that'll 119 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: clear out the box a little bit and give him 120 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: some running room. Maybe they can use some of the 121 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: RPO run pass option game to help Ty Gurley get off. 122 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: But Tavon Austin has to be a factor. Kenny Britt 123 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: has to be able to stretch to feel they will 124 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: need to utilize all the weapons available to them that 125 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: they haven't necessarily utilized thus far. You know who's loving this, 126 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 1: by the way, and Dominicans sue he thinks, oh, you know, 127 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: he wants you think he may inadvertently step. I'm not 128 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: saying he's gonna do anything outside the rules. I'm just 129 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: saying that's not a very good offensive line. That's a 130 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 1: rookie quarterback, and I'm it'll be I actually kind of 131 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: hope for Jared Goff's sake. I hope he gets hit 132 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: really good earliness game. Maybe it's suited somebody else, but 133 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: then just shake that off, loosen up a little bit, 134 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: and then and then get wrong. But he this Miami front, 135 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: he will get hit. I watched Dominican Sue on tape 136 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: from not this last week in San Diego, but the 137 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: previous week, and Bucky, he's just so dang strong man. 138 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: Their defense is running in the formso is making plays. 139 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: Man's Joseph has done a great job of keeping this 140 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: front multiple. They're doing a bunch of different things in 141 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 1: the back end coverage wise, in the house. How about 142 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: that two picks against San Diego charges um Byron Maxwell 143 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: had to pick. They're playing a little more zone backing 144 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: up seeing playing with vision. Uh, you know, when you 145 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: announced this so early in the week, he gives them 146 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 1: an opportunity to kind of add a lot of tricks 147 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: to the deal. He's going to see a lot of exotics, 148 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: and it'll be interesting to see how quickly he can 149 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: speed up his process to get the ball into his 150 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: playment his hands. One of the reason why I think 151 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 1: it's key that they get him out here now and 152 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 1: not wait any longer, is you just look at Philadelphia. 153 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: Wentz had that early success. Right then he goes through 154 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: a little bit of a low. He's best some adversity. Now, 155 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: you know, we'll see Kenny, he's starting to pull out 156 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: of it a little bit. Cann He continue to go 157 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: through that, proved yourself. Get through those in order to 158 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 1: get where you're gonna be where you want to be 159 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: as a quarterback. Take Dak Prescott, that's a unicorn. Okay, 160 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 1: that's a unique situation that rarely happens. You gotta go 161 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: through your downtime. So let's get those down times out 162 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: of the way as soon as we can. So next 163 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: year when you start week one, you hit the ground 164 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: running with this kid. Well, let's be honest. I mean, 165 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: there's been a rush to get him on the field. 166 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: But in a perfect world, this is kind of when 167 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: you wanted to put the rookie on the field. You 168 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: want right around the midway point team games in, you 169 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: have six seven games left, you're at home. Now, you 170 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: play him to get him some momentum going into next year. 171 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: So this is an opportunity for them to do that. 172 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: If they have success, maybe the kid's lightening the bottle, 173 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: maybe they make it to the playoffs. But right now 174 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: it's about setting Jerry Golf up so he can have 175 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: success next year. Alright, no question, all right, these games 176 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: last week, Buck, you touched on the primetime game, the 177 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: Monday night game Bengals Giants. I went back this morning 178 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: and watched all of Eli's throws. By the way, offensive 179 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: line wise, they're not very good. Atkins had his way 180 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: with that group up front, but Eli is tough, hung 181 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: in there, and they may some things happen. I love 182 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: how they made them pay for doubling up Odell Beckham. 183 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: Everybody you sit at home, you watch game, you go, 184 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: you know we're not gonna let this guy be double 185 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: double them. Okay, well you double them, there's gonna lead 186 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: to some matchups. Across the field you're not gonna like, 187 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: and they were able to get Sterling Shepard lined up on. 188 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: I think it was perfect coming across the field, coming 189 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: across the middle. He's got no shot doing doing some things. 190 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: They creatively done it. And the thing about the Giants 191 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: that I'm impressed with a lot of their passing game 192 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: is all quick game. I think they may throw more 193 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: slants and quick in breaking routes than any other team 194 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: in the National Football League, and they allowed their playmakers 195 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: to get loose. They've also done a better job of 196 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: late of making sure that Odell Beckham stays in the game, 197 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,439 Speaker 1: meaning they forced some balls to get his way to 198 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: kind of get him into the mix earlier. I saw that. 199 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: And when you keep him in gaze, he can continue 200 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: to be a difference maker. Dead double move he ran 201 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: on uh put that on snap by the way, move 202 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: the sticks on Snapchat. That's a yeah, hit him, hit him. 203 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 1: He just he's squared up and then wheeled right around him. 204 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: Now that that's a play where I'm move right there. Yeah, 205 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: that was sick. The UH Seahawks Patriots, I guess I'd say, Look, 206 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: I'm a little bit surprised. I thought at home in 207 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: New England would give them some trouble. But man Seattle 208 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:11,199 Speaker 1: came out and just smacked him in the mouth a 209 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: little bit, and not to me the story of this game. 210 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: Going back and watching that tape, c J process is 211 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: a problem for people. He is doing it we compared 212 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: with David Johnson coming out. He is doing some David 213 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 1: Johnson type things where they line him up at receiver. 214 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: This is why I don't understand. You get athletic back 215 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: like that too too, who has been a receiver as 216 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: has David Johnson. And on Total Access this week on Friday, 217 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: I'm doing a little bit on David Johnson. They they 218 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: motion these guys out Buck and they treat him like 219 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: running backs. You got to treat them like wide receivers 220 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: at least you gotta drop a safety down there and 221 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: match him. You take your inside linebacker in motion and 222 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: match motion with him. You get what you deserve. In 223 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: my opinion. You know, it's a problem, and you know 224 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: we're talking about c J process and the versatility he 225 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: and another guy that was at Notre Dame before him, theoretic. 226 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: Theoretic had some experience playing wide receiver, and there's a 227 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: reason why on third down on some of those special players, 228 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: you can put them in and split them out wide 229 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: and create a problem. C J. Prosie gave the Seattle 230 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: Seahawks exactly what they really needed. They needed someone else 231 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 1: who could be a factor, someone else who could be 232 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: a guy that could create double teams to create freedom 233 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: or one on one opportunities touchdowns. Not a coincidence, Doug 234 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: Ball when Jimmy Graham, Jimmy Graham also is a guy 235 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: that can kind of dictate coverage. So now they have 236 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: two guys who can create double teams which allows those 237 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: other guys to get one on one coverage. Doug Ball, 238 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 1: when has been a guy that has been able to 239 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: win really nice route runner. I like how that offense 240 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,559 Speaker 1: is going. I still believe they need to be able 241 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: to have a physical presence in terms of running. But 242 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: if he's able to give them the total yards from 243 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: scrimmage that he gave them, that offense is going to 244 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: be a problem. And then defensively, they always have the 245 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: tools to be able to get it done with it 246 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: without Michael Bennett. That's what just how physical they are 247 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: and they've you know a lot of people talk about 248 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: them being a covered, covered three team, a single house 249 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: safety team. They've become more than just that. But at 250 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: the end of the day, they can cover you and 251 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: they can hit you, and they have willing tacklers. They 252 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: kind of changed the evaluation part of it for me 253 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,839 Speaker 1: in terms of when I'm looking for secondary guys, they 254 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:12,599 Speaker 1: have to be able to hit running cover there. You 255 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: gotta be able to do it. We used to say 256 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: in Baltimore, you'll never have a great defense if your 257 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: corners can't tackle. Everybody has to be willing. That mean 258 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: they have to be willing tacklers, and if they're more 259 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: physical than willing, then that gives you a chance to 260 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: take it to another another level. You got you got 261 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: force defenders there on the edge. Alright, other big game 262 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: from the weekend. Man, we had so many good games 263 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 1: Cowboys Steelers. I'll tell you what the story of this 264 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: game to me, And I don't want to diminish anything 265 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: from Dak Prescott who was great, Zeke Elliott who was great. 266 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 1: Des Bryant made plays. But the way that the Dallas 267 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: Cowboys offensive line, when you go watch that tape, Bock, 268 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: the way they man handled and mauled that Steelers front, 269 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 1: that was the game that was the game. And I 270 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: think when you're looking at tape and you have to 271 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: take those games to the lake stage of the fourth quarter, 272 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: I want to see who is able to win and 273 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: control the trenches in those stages, and without questions, Dallas 274 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: Cowboys were able to have their way offensively because they 275 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,959 Speaker 1: mashed the Pittsburgh still Is in the fourth quarter. Ezekiel 276 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: Ellett is a hard charge of running. He's a physical runner. 277 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: That first drive, the way he laid it down on 278 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: Mike Mitchell, you want to see that. But at the 279 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: end of the day, the front five, the front line 280 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: from the Dallas Cowboys completely dominated and obliterated the Pittsburgh 281 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: still Is at the point of attack. It just is 282 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 1: a testament to how they beat them up consistently throughout 283 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: the death. I had a buddy with the team send 284 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: me a copy of his report on Ezekiel Elliott and 285 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:33,839 Speaker 1: just highlighted one little thing because he was watching that game. 286 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: It's that he doesn't work for the Cowboys. The line 287 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: that he had in his report was, they say it 288 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: takes a village to raise a child, but it also 289 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: takes a village to tackle ezekielated. That is a nice 290 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: report but that's true though, like you know, after he 291 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: settled in after the first two games of the season 292 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 1: and quit trying to necessarily prove to everybody why he 293 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: was the top five pick, he has been outstanding. We've 294 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: seen the same guy that we saw at Ohio State, 295 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 1: the same guy that was able to kind of put 296 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: that offense on the back in critical situations. We're now 297 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: beginning to see them use him more in the past game, 298 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: which is something that he wasn't really featured in at 299 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 1: Ohio State, but I knew about it having watched him 300 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: from high school. Using him in the screen game, being 301 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: able to get him the ball inside and outside, and man, 302 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: he's a three down back. He's the epitome of it. 303 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: You almost are reluctant to take him off the field 304 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 1: because he can do everything that you want to see 305 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 1: at that position. Um, here's the interesting thing about the Cowboys, 306 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: and I give Scott Land had a lot of credit 307 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: for this buck you talked about the screen game. Here's 308 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 1: the problem. When you're trying to defend the Cowboys, you 309 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 1: can't beat them up front. So if you're gonna rush 310 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:43,439 Speaker 1: four Dak Prescott's gonna sit back there. They're gonna let 311 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:47,319 Speaker 1: Cole Beasley and wait, and they're gonna worry out. So 312 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: if you can't get there before, what you gotta do. 313 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,439 Speaker 1: You gotta bring start bringing pressure. So you're gonna bring pressure, 314 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: they're gonna screen you, and so next thing you know, 315 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: you get caught with your pants down and you got 316 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: Zeke Elliott out the back door. He's got three or 317 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 1: four blockers in front of him. So you're gonna you're 318 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 1: gonna pick your poison position there. Defensively with this team 319 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: right now. Offensively, if if we were playing a video game, 320 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: I would want to play with the Dallas Cowboys on 321 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: offense because they don't have any holes. On offense. They 322 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: have a true number one receiver in Dez Bryant. They 323 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: have the middle of the field controller in Jason Winton, 324 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: and also Cole Beasley, have a number a number two 325 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: receiver in Terrence Williams who can make plays when those 326 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: opportunities are there. Big offensive line, so you can run 327 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: it whenever you want to run it, how you ever 328 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: you want to run it. You have a running back 329 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: that can do everything, and right now the quarterback is 330 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: making great decisions and not turning the ball over and 331 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: so when you're dealing with a force like that, and 332 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: we're always trying to make a team play left handed. 333 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if you can make the Cowboys play 334 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: left handed, because they're alternatives are still strong enough to 335 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: allow them to win the games. You make them pass, 336 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: they can wear you out. Pass you. You try and say, oh, 337 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: we'll give them to run, they will run it willingly 338 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: for two d plush yards. I don't know how you 339 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: really slow them down. To me, it looks like a 340 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: collision course with Seattle. That's what looks like in the NFC, 341 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: And to me, that's maybe one of the few teams 342 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: that matches up favorably with Dallas because they can put 343 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: the big corners out there on desk. And then you've 344 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: got Michael Bennett, who doesn't matter how dominant they are, 345 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: he's a problem. He's a problem if he's healthy inside 346 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: and Cliff April coming off the edge. To me, you 347 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: get Cliff April, you put him over Doug Free and 348 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: you say you you go in the game for me, 349 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: you know this is I think a great match up 350 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: for both teams. At two thousand fourteen, I was up 351 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: in Seattle uh Central Linkfield when the Cowboys came on 352 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: the road and they beat them with DeMarco Murray. And 353 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: when the Cowboys are committed to running the ball like 354 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: they were committed in that game. They were committed to 355 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: running the ball. They got thirty plus carries up there. 356 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: They wore the Seahawks down in the end. And I 357 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: think part of your strategy when you're dealing with Seattle 358 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: this you have to be willing to run the ball. 359 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: Even though it doesn't matter, you have to run it. 360 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: The Cowboys have the front line and the personnel to 361 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:56,479 Speaker 1: be able to do that. The problem is their defense. 362 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: Can their defense hold up, because at the end of 363 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: the day, that's the weakest part of their team. Can 364 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: the defense hold up? Their office has been able to 365 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: kinter play keep away to prevent them from being on 366 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: the field to be exposed. Can they stop a Seattle? 367 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: How many losses the Seattle have right now? I think 368 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: they have to to so right now they would have 369 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: to go to Dallas. Your home field is critical, So 370 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: for the Dallas Cowboys they can't have a hiccup because 371 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: you do not want the championship game to have to 372 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: run through Seattle. How interesting? How about the irony in 373 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: the preseason, Tony Romo goes down at Seattle, yea, and 374 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: that could be what the sides who goes to the 375 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, they could that could be your NFC championship. 376 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: They could be the championship game, and it would be 377 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: nice because when you look, there's a huge separation I 378 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: believe in the NFC right now between the Seattle Sehawks 379 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys in the rest of the pack. Um, 380 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: those two teams are head and showed as above the 381 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: other teams, and so who can come up and challenge them? 382 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: I will say for the Dallas Cowboys, the road is 383 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: a little tougher because within their division, Washington the Giants, 384 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: there's some good teams and they'll be tested and they 385 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: could go on a stretch where they lose a couple 386 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: of games because they're playing in the division roubles, all right, 387 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: couple other points and then we'll get to some of 388 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: these other things here. Um, Jamis Winston and Marcus Mariot 389 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: are both playing good football right now. Second, your guys, 390 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: we've seen some ups and downs. I think they've kind 391 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: of leveled that, you know, they've become more consistent. Um 392 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 1: did a nice job. Jamis Winston had the circus play 393 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 1: in that game, and then man, the Titans beat the 394 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:25,679 Speaker 1: snot out of Green Bay. How funny is that we 395 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: did the preview video for that game. We laid out 396 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: the case for why the Titans or how they could 397 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 1: beat Green Bay, and then we both wimped out and 398 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 1: did not did not picking. We should have gone with 399 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: our our gut on that one. Chargers Dolphins. Great game. Dolphins, Um, 400 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: you know, just find a way to making Tannehill made 401 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 1: a big time throw in that game. Their defense, Kiko 402 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: Alonso stepped up, made plays. Um Larmy Tunso got a 403 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 1: chance to play some left tackle, did a really nice 404 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: job out there to spring j j I. That was 405 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: That was a fun game. Any other games on here 406 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 1: that stood out to you? Buck for this late this 407 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 1: last week, I think the thing that stands out and 408 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: we have to talk about it in scouting the Saints 409 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: and the Broncos brings up why as a scout you 410 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: have to pay attention to special teams play. You have 411 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: to know what guys are and what they potentially can do, 412 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: especially at the bottom of the roster guys. So Justin 413 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 1: Simmons at the end of the game on the p 414 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 1: A t he jumps over the center. His Afordians vertical 415 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: jumps over bass it away, they pick it up, they 416 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 1: scoop and those are the deciding points. And so when 417 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: you're looking on the road and you go and do 418 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: all you due diligence and school calls, sometimes you have 419 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: to pop in a couple of snaps all special teams 420 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: so you can paint the picture that might have been 421 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: the deciding factor for the Denver Broncos in the game, 422 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 1: the fact that a scout was able to look at 423 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 1: Justin Simmons and see, oh, he has some special team 424 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: ability and maybe in his background he has blocked the 425 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 1: number of kicks. Those things matter, and they really matter 426 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: on good teams in big games. So good scouting departments 427 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 1: here is one of the things that they do. And 428 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: in talking about special teams, you'll have each scout during 429 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: the fall, maybe you know pretty much you've been through 430 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 1: all your schools right now, Right now, scouts are going 431 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: back cleaning up reports, going back in for second and 432 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: third visits at schools. But they seen everybody in their area. 433 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 1: So you gotta email gets sent out and says similar 434 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 1: your top five special teams players now they might be 435 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,199 Speaker 1: star players, and you have first round grades on they 436 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: might be six or seventh round backup players. But just 437 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: tell me who are the five best special team players 438 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: you've seen, Because when you go into a school, you 439 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: study the special teams as well. If they're if they're 440 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: you know, a prospect, or they're senior draft eligible, you 441 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: gotta watch them and take notes on what they do 442 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,439 Speaker 1: on special teams. So you send those in what they do. 443 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 1: Then on their cards on the draft board, you're gonna 444 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: put a little color color on there, maybe it's green 445 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 1: or whatever to signify who those guys are. You get 446 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 1: in draft meetings and buck you know how it is. 447 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: You get in there. You've got four safeties, and you've 448 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 1: got four different areas of the country. You have the 449 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 1: exact same grade. One of them's got a green dot. 450 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: Who do you think you're gonna put it to the 451 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: green dot? That is the deciding factor, and a lot 452 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 1: of situations, particularly down Day three, you're trying to figure 453 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: out because normally those Day three guys, your fourth round 454 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 1: or below, those are the guys that comprise most of 455 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: your special teams. So special teams are a big factor. 456 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: Being able to have a special skill, be it as 457 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 1: a turner, being a guy that can block kicks, being 458 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:06,679 Speaker 1: a gunner, stud uh cover guy. Those things separate you 459 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: from the pack, which is why a lot of guys 460 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 1: I would encourage, even starters, even high profile guys. You 461 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 1: need to play special teams because ultimately everybody plays special 462 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: teams in some way, shape or fashion in the league. 463 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: All Right, I talked about earlier, Um, third down. We're 464 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: talking about being the money down, the money most important 465 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: down in football. So I sent to Bill Smith, our 466 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: researcher extraordinary. I said, send me some nuggets here. I need. 467 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: I need some third down information. See who's doing well? 468 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: All right, highest third down highest passer rating on third 469 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 1: down this season. Pass rating is not the best st at, 470 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: but these numbers are interesting. Tom Brady on third down 471 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:42,479 Speaker 1: as a pass rating five touchdowns, no picks. Drew Brees 472 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:46,360 Speaker 1: eight touchdowns, two picks, A one sixteen rating, Roethlisberger eight touchdown, 473 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: one pick, Matt Ryan four touchdowns, no picks. So third down, 474 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: who the dudes are right now? Brady, Breeze, Roethlisberger, Ryan 475 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 1: usual suspects Ryan Ryan would be the new guy that's 476 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: kind of in that club. Uh. The reason those guys 477 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 1: all excel. They understand the game. They also understand the 478 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 1: urgency that comes with winning on third down. They put 479 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 1: themselves probably in a position to convert third down because 480 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 1: they understand how to win first and second now, but 481 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: experience matters when it comes to conversions. All right, I'm 482 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: gonna see if you can guess this one, buck Um. 483 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: I think there's the one that you that maybe would 484 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: be lave you in one direction. It might not be 485 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:28,360 Speaker 1: that most third down receptions this year give you a hint. 486 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 1: It's a wide receiver in the NFC South. Okay, let's 487 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 1: go Tennessee. Let's go Matthews. No, Tennessee a f C South, 488 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: NFC South. So think about the teams here, Carolina, Atlanta, Tampa. Um, 489 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: who else am I missing? Carolina, Atlanta, Tampa in New Orleans? Okay, 490 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 1: my guests would be Adam Humphreys. But I don't think 491 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: this right. Mike Evans third down, third downs. Mike Evans 492 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 1: has eight teen catches on third down. Man, everyone knows 493 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: who of those touches. That's what I'm saying. But that's 494 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: when we talk about the definition of a number one 495 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: wide receiver. Everyone knows third down, red zone. Everybody knows 496 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: where it's going and you can't stop it. I think 497 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: Mike Evans, we put him in that category, is a 498 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 1: true number one. Okay, here's something that coaches always say. 499 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 1: I think players, not place. Everyone just get I need 500 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: to get this guy going. I need to get it 501 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: to the player so everyone knows. Hey, man, it's gonna 502 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: go to Mike Evans. I don't care. He's better than 503 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: your guy. I'm an feed it to him. It's not 504 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: about the play. Is players overplays, all right. So here's 505 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 1: some other names on this. Number two actually sorry, tied, 506 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 1: tied for the lead. Amari Cooper third down once again, 507 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: we talked about it. Number one guy, he's only he's 508 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 1: got one touchdown. Then some interesting names. Randall Cobb has seventeen. Now, 509 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: they've probably been in a lot of third downs to 510 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 1: be part of that deal. Jordan read, even having missed 511 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: games for Washington seventeen. That's one of the toughest covers 512 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 1: in the league. He is, and you can make the 513 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 1: argument that he's there number one receiver. He's their number 514 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: one playmaker in the pass game. He is everything they 515 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 1: kind of builded around him. Those other guys are supplemented 516 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 1: reviews how about this one, Kenny britt seventeen catches. Well, 517 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: I can see that he's been. He's there number one 518 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: in l a other places. The thing is, to me, 519 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: when you draft Havon Austin, that's you're drafting him to 520 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: be your third down escape guy. They they they are, 521 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: so a couple more guys with seventeen they're all tied here. Uh. 522 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: Cole Beasley not surprising to make. He was the one 523 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 1: guy that I thought would be because I know Dad 524 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 1: has a has really a chemistry and a trust with him. 525 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 1: And then Jarvis Landry. So you've got interesting collection. You've 526 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: got some slot guys, you've got a great tight end, 527 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: and then you've got a couple of guys on the end. Finally, 528 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: the common denominator um. With the exception of Cole Beasley, 529 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 1: all those other guys are kind of number one guys 530 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: on their respect their team. Jarvis Landry, even as he 531 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: wouldn't necessarily be a prototypical number one receiver to them, 532 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: he's he's he's to do them alright. Most third down 533 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 1: rush yards and and this to me, it's almost not 534 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 1: just the rush yards, because you can be in the 535 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 1: third and twenty run a draw and get some rush yards. 536 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: But the conversions for the first downs I have on 537 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: here as well. But the most third down rush yards 538 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 1: but all Powell hundred twenty three. He's got eight first 539 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: down conversions. Lev Bell, even though he's missed time, a 540 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 1: hundred and eleven yards, six first downs, Melvin Gordon a 541 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: hundred and two yards, ten first down runs. Uh, that's big. 542 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 1: The other person with ten first down runs to Marco 543 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: Murray on third down, so he's been good. That to 544 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 1: me is more in short yardage. Uh. Lamar Miller shows 545 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: up on here. But how about this name for most 546 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 1: third down rush yards this season? Andrew Luck with nine 547 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 1: conversions running the football man. You know the funny thing 548 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: a lot of people, the way they envision Andrew Luck 549 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: in the way he actually plays are two different things. 550 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: He's far more athletic than people give him credit for. 551 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: He uses the legs, legs a lot more than people 552 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: really expect to imagine. And that Stead right there suggested 553 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: he understands how to use his athleticism to his benefit. 554 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: All right, most third down sacks. So this again, these 555 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: we talk about closers. This is no question, I say, 556 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 1: Trevor Hoffman. You say Rivera. We're not neither here nor there. 557 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,479 Speaker 1: Um most third down sacks you I've got, I'll tell you, 558 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 1: give you a hint. Two, there's there's four guys that 559 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: have five third down sacks. And this maybe if you're listening, 560 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 1: you can figure this out. You can guess. Here guys, 561 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: two of them are tied. Two of the two of 562 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 1: the guys at the top tied with five sacks are teammates. 563 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: You'll never get it. You'll never get it. At the top. 564 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 1: Two guys tied at the top five apiece. I don't 565 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: know the two yet. One guy I was gonna say 566 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: one team has won a Super Bowl. This team has 567 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl within the last five years. Team 568 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: is from the NFC NFC West. Cliff Avrol is one. 569 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,400 Speaker 1: Who's the other one on their team with five sacks 570 00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: on third down? Frank Clark Boom about that because Michael 571 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: Buness her. So that's what I'm saying. Now, how about that? 572 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: So third down April and Frank Clark five sex a piece, 573 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: Von Miller five sacks, um Eric Walden with five third 574 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: down sacks for the Cult seven and a half sacks 575 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: or something under the radar. And then Lorenzo Alexander, who's 576 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,360 Speaker 1: having it is just a career year. He's got half 577 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 1: three years old and having the best year of his life. 578 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 1: But those dudes are doing it on third down. So 579 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 1: I always think it's throughout the year. Periodically, I like 580 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 1: to check in and see what's going on in that money, 581 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: But it's money down, you know, the next category when 582 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,239 Speaker 1: it comes down his fourth quarter performance in terms of 583 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: like fourth quarter within seven, I would love to see 584 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: that how many sacks guys are generating in the fourth quarter, 585 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 1: because that's what we talked about most down the closes 586 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: are being able to shut the door. Um, you have 587 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,199 Speaker 1: to have the ability to generate rush when you were 588 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 1: up a head and doing some of those things. All right, 589 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 1: before we get out of here, but we gotta go 590 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: to these college upsets real quick. Where's your take? What's 591 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: the most surprising of all of them? To me? Going down? 592 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 1: I was gonna say it's Iowa to mean I shouldn't 593 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: be surprised because that's Iowa. I was gonna lose in 594 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,880 Speaker 1: North Dakota State every year. But then they're gonna beat 595 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: somebody to have no business beaten. So they beat Michigan, 596 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,360 Speaker 1: which is I mean is un unbelievable. With the other 597 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,439 Speaker 1: thing is they knocked the quarterback cow, so now Wilson 598 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 1: Spade may not be able to play against Ohio State 599 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 1: and you know that the buckouts are not sympathetic. Um. 600 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 1: I think the bigger thing is the rivalry between Rich 601 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: Eisen and Albert Brier. Are they battling still on They're 602 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: going back and forth, and I think Albert he may 603 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: have taken a little delight and watching Rich's team go 604 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: down a little bit. You are like the tennis match, judge, 605 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I just I just think it's funny that 606 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 1: they had like a little twitter beef. Yeah, they go 607 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: in on each other. Um, we both picked sc to 608 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: beat Washington, So I don't know that was a huge price. 609 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,679 Speaker 1: You ended up going to the game. Yeah, it went 610 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 1: to the game. But you know what was very impressive 611 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 1: about that game was watching a Dorri Jackson and John 612 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: Rosscoe had to head and they were mashed up all 613 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: the time. But John Rush finished with eight receptions a 614 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: hundred fifty four yards. But Dorry Jackson had a couple 615 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 1: of big plays and the rare win win when you 616 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: can check off the boxes for both guys and be like, 617 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 1: oh yeah, both guys both did it. They both did it, 618 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: and so it was really good. I think the counter 619 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,199 Speaker 1: is watching Sidney Jones and Juju get away from him 620 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: at all. I haven't seen the tape, you know, like 621 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: that's I know it's back a little bit. But I 622 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 1: think there's a difference between Juju and John Ross in 623 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 1: terms of the explosiveness and the versatility and what you 624 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: could get out of both players if you brought them. 625 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 1: Man With John Ross, he's a speaster, but he's also 626 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,159 Speaker 1: very polished route runner or whatever. Juju is more of 627 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 1: a playmaker, meaning that I don't know if he's the 628 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: most polished wide receiver, but he has to have the 629 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 1: ball in his hands to make things happen. I don't 630 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: know how much juice, you know, how much physical play, 631 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: how much grief I got When I did my comparison 632 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: for him in the spring, you compared to Bolden, I 633 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: compared him to uh, Michael Floyd. That's not a bad 634 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: compared people like Michael Floyd. Stiff and he can't really run. 635 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, that's I mean, jujuo is, but he's big. 636 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: He's not he's not dynamic. He's big and fast, and yeah, 637 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: it's physical and and he's not a polished route runner 638 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 1: at all. No, and he's made strides, but he was 639 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: the guy who didn't play a lot of wide receiver 640 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,479 Speaker 1: in high school. So it's still kind of nude him. 641 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: But that game, I will say this, you can already 642 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: see it kind of coming back for USC. You can 643 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: see you remember how we used to love to take 644 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: their visit. That used to be a two day visit. 645 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: My favorite part of those visits, by the way, when 646 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: you go to SC back in the day, was not 647 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: to go look at the senior starters. It was to 648 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: look at the freshman that they had brought in and 649 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 1: be like, whoa wh who is this dude? Yes, he'll 650 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,959 Speaker 1: be out there Tyrone Smith and mccleo both red shirting. 651 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: They'll he'll be playing next year. So they they're beginning 652 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: to load it up to make a run. And I 653 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 1: don't think it's a coincidence that we're seeing some of 654 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: those teams, the Oregons and stuff kind of come back 655 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 1: to the back back a little bit, come back because 656 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,959 Speaker 1: now SE has full a lot met of scholarships, they 657 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 1: can they can keep everybody in the fence. The state 658 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 1: of l A. Yeah, they are. Those are eight to 659 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: ten guys that they had to just let go to 660 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: other competitors because they didn't have the scholarship. Yeah, they 661 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: can keep it together and look, the quarterback has made 662 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 1: the difference. I still think that the throwing motion is 663 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: a little quirky. Long but it's weird though it's it's quick, 664 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: but it's long. Yeah, it's it's it's it's funny quick release, 665 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: but it's just long's it's fussle. Wilson kind of has 666 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: I would describe him. Yeah, it's funny to watch, but 667 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: the ball gets out. He does a good job. And 668 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: I also think with the Washington quarterback Jake Browning, you 669 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: and I talked about that he's a nice college player. 670 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: I think at yeah, I think you saw a little 671 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: bit of the difference where he's not quite one of 672 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,239 Speaker 1: those upper guys. So here was my thing. When I 673 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: watched that game on TV, I was I was didn't 674 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: get see it live. I recorded it, went back and 675 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 1: watched and haven't watched the all twenty two tape. But 676 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: my takeaway from it was man s he played good. 677 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 1: They did a nice job. The quarterback from watching has 678 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: had an awful game. They had some dudes. They had 679 00:30:56,160 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: dudes wide open down, bad decisions, some blown coverages. Even 680 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: late in the game. I don't know what he was doing. 681 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 1: They're protecting like an eleven point lead and they let 682 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 1: somebody to get right on top of him and miss 683 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: a throw. He just didn't have a very good game. 684 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: Didn't have a good game. But you know they were 685 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: able to kind of get up to him up front. 686 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: They had some pressure. Is turned into a good player. Yeah, 687 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: And they're fast like sc is fast like when they 688 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: put the young guys out there. They're fast defense and 689 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 1: sometimes to speak and make up for some of the mistakes. 690 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: All Right, the other big games we had Clemson, how 691 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: about that one Pitt. You know, Pitt is a funny 692 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: team because I watched Pitt play North Carolina and that 693 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: was a tricky game for the lost to the very end, 694 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: and they did some things. I mean, beat Pennon State. 695 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: I think. I think the big thing in that game, 696 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: I look tip my hat to Mike Williams because the 697 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: play that he made on an interception, to me will 698 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 1: be one of those that you play, yeah, and and 699 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 1: and and meeting when we was talking about like this 700 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: is an all th guy. But I think that you 701 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: watched the Sean on that by the way, after the pick. 702 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: I did not watch him. But I will say, here's 703 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: the thing about the Shawn Watson. I know he went 704 00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: out with the seniors. They kind of celebrated his senior day. Um, 705 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 1: so it's I guess the deal that he's coming out. 706 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: What I would wonder is if he couldn't benefit from 707 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: another year, I think he could of school. Now. I 708 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: mean not from a draft position or whatever, like, I 709 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: don't know how much of the change, but the experience. 710 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: I just believe this year people got a chance to 711 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: have to take from the previous year. They made some adjustments. 712 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: They're making them, you know, kind of be a pocket 713 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 1: pass and do some of those things. I just think 714 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: he needs a lot of work in that area. Here's 715 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,719 Speaker 1: here's Yeah, the decision making was not good. The red 716 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: zone interceptions when you're trying to put a game away 717 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 1: not good. But to me, the interesting thing is, you 718 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: remember we both had Teddy Bridgewater as the as the 719 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: top quarterback in the raft class. But you can have 720 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 1: two things. You can say what we believe, but you 721 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 1: can also state what you're hearing from talking to people. 722 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: Are on the league. Nobody had that I talked to 723 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 1: in the in the scouting community had Teddy Bridgewater as 724 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 1: high as we did. They weren't high on him for 725 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: whatever reason. We've been through a million times. But so 726 00:32:58,440 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: then people get Maddie, how can you sound like, No, 727 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 1: I'm not saying this is my opinion. I'm saying this 728 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: is what I'm hearing in the league. And sure enough 729 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 1: draft game he dropped all the way down to where 730 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: he was picked by Minnesota Deshaun Watson Buck. I don't 731 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 1: talk to anybody that has a really, really strong uh 732 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 1: backing of his play. Yeah, I don't talk to anybody. 733 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 1: So to me, it's eerily similar to to Bridgewater in 734 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: that I think some people assume his draft position. I 735 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 1: think they'll be very surprised at what that ends up being. 736 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 1: And I will say this about the Seawan And here's 737 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 1: the thing. Having studied him and I know him, so 738 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: I can not careful with all words. But in watching him, 739 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: he's a little different than I thought based on the 740 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 1: glimpses that I saw the previous year. When you see 741 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: I was at the Alabama game, he was on fire. Yeah, 742 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: when you see the Alabama game, when you see the 743 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: North Carolina game, in the a SEC Championship, in the 744 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: Oklahoma game where he had three really good games and 745 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 1: he seemed like he was playing at a different speed. 746 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: I think what has happened to me is having watched 747 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: him on the same field with Lamar Jackson, He's not 748 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 1: as dynamic an athlete as I thought. So you'll run 749 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 1: a little bit, but he's not the explosive dude that 750 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: we thought. And so now I wonder if he doesn't 751 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: have that A plus athleticism where he can be dynamic 752 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 1: as a runner, is he good enough as a pastor 753 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,319 Speaker 1: to be able to control the game and affect the gap? 754 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 1: Now maybe he can go and do some of the 755 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott stuff that Dak was able to do. But 756 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 1: right now I think the feury is I don't know 757 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: if he's an A plus athlete and I know he's 758 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,879 Speaker 1: not an A development as a pastor, So so where 759 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 1: do you take that? Does that mean he's a backup 760 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: developmental type for a team that already has a quarterback? 761 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,240 Speaker 1: What is the vida? Is that second? Is that third round? 762 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 1: Where does that fall? And again I'm not saying what 763 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 1: he can or can't be at the next level. I'm 764 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:51,240 Speaker 1: just telling you from the personnel community, there's the enthusiasm 765 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 1: meter is at a zero and and and to be 766 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 1: and to be honest about all of these quarterbacks, no question. No, 767 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 1: I don't know because the the other guy, Mr Brisky, 768 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 1: Mr Brisky from North Carolina has kind of been the 769 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 1: guy that's been to Johnny Come lately. A lot of 770 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 1: people talking about him, buzzing about him. His stats look great, 771 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 1: he has twin two touchdowns for an interceptions. But what 772 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 1: I will say is at the end of the day, 773 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 1: when we turn the page and we get to the 774 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 1: draft season, on paper, the concerns will be this, He's 775 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 1: only had fourteen or fifteen college starts. In those college starts, 776 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 1: he has run up some nice numbers. But in those 777 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: pivotal moments when you really need to see him against 778 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 1: Duke backed up, it would have been a great opportunity 779 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 1: for him. Balls on the eight yeard line canny lead 780 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 1: him to a game winning drive, because if he does, 781 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:36,839 Speaker 1: then you can start checking the box about him being 782 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 1: a clutch player. I see a guy who is athletic 783 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,319 Speaker 1: enough like athletic to make some plays, but he's a 784 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 1: reluctant athlete in terms of being able to run, it, 785 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: has a good enough arm, can make the throws, can 786 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 1: do some of those things, or whatever. Um can play 787 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 1: when the game is on schedule, still stares down the quarterback, 788 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 1: I mean stares down this primary receiver a little too much. 789 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 1: I believe he would benefit for some more time, time 790 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 1: and reps. He can go. He can probably fool people 791 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,399 Speaker 1: and get drafted high. I just think, like, if we're 792 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 1: talking about this for the long haul, you want to 793 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 1: put yourself in the best position to really enjoy a 794 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 1: lengthy career. And I just don't know as a one 795 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: year wonder guy where he goes. So I want to 796 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 1: take people into the draft room right now because this 797 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 1: is a great example what goes on in the draft room. 798 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 1: This is like Bucky just read his report. Okay, this 799 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 1: is he just gave his evaluation, and so this would 800 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,360 Speaker 1: be a total center or to take place in the 801 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 1: draft room. I would sit here and listen to Bucky 802 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 1: read that, and I would say, okay, I'd be, you know, 803 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: kind of scribbling down notes, and Bucky said, okay, he's 804 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 1: hadn't played that much limited number of starts. He can 805 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,319 Speaker 1: make every throw. He's kind of a reluctant athlete. You know, 806 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 1: the clutch stuff, is that really there? I don't know 807 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,240 Speaker 1: he's got he's got some tools, but there's just question marks. 808 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,799 Speaker 1: You just described Mark Sanchez. You just just like to 809 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 1: a t that was what Mark Sanchez and that and 810 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,839 Speaker 1: that's why, and that's what, and that's what Pete Carroll had. 811 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 1: He was another year. Take another year because I just 812 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 1: don't know if you had enough. And that is really 813 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,280 Speaker 1: a good example because I think Mark maybe teams stuff 814 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,880 Speaker 1: dead and and he was saying long term, I know 815 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 1: you went in the top ten, that's great, but in 816 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 1: terms of your sustained success as a starter at the 817 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 1: next level, you need more college experience. And I think 818 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 1: that's the common denominated with the young guys that are 819 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 1: playing and playing well. If you look at Carson Wentz, 820 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, even whatever you think about Cody Kessler, all 821 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 1: of those guys five year guys, a lot of experience, 822 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 1: a lot of reps on the practice field, a lot 823 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 1: of game reps. It allowed them to have an easy 824 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 1: year or maybe a quicker transition to the league. I 825 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 1: believe more teams have to look at the guys that 826 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,319 Speaker 1: have success that way. Because I don't know if an 827 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 1: under classmen can come in and have that kind of 828 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 1: success right away. It's gonna be interesting to see who 829 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 1: ends up declaring in this draft, because I think it's 830 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 1: gonna be a battle for people, because they're gonna see 831 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,799 Speaker 1: the opportunity. It's gonna be a supplied demand thing. They're 832 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 1: gonna say, there's not any quarterbacks. Is a great opportunity 833 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 1: for me to come out and go high. May be 834 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 1: higher than my ability suggests I should because of the 835 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,839 Speaker 1: weak crop of quarterbacks, but that's short sighted, that's short 836 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,720 Speaker 1: term thinking. Long term, I think these guys better served 837 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,400 Speaker 1: stay in school, get that extra year of experience. And 838 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 1: just like you said, the Senior Bowl has been producing 839 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,719 Speaker 1: all the quarterbacks in the NFL, and I called it's 840 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 1: not called the red shirt Sophomore Bawl. Its been a 841 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,279 Speaker 1: lot of experience, and I think you can make the 842 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 1: same case. Because I think the interesting guy that we'll 843 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:20,240 Speaker 1: talk about at the end of this will be Deshaun Kaiser, 844 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 1: because Deshaun Kaiser is a guy that this has not 845 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 1: been the best year for him, but we talked about 846 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 1: the fantastic start that he had at Texas and the 847 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,319 Speaker 1: thing that I think is a little different for him 848 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:36,400 Speaker 1: than Mr Robinsky and also Deshaun Wasason. You're talking about 849 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:41,400 Speaker 1: an athletic quarterback who also has prototypical traits, and so 850 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,560 Speaker 1: the traits we talked about, armed talent or whatever. I 851 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:50,400 Speaker 1: think there, wild traits, size, intelligence, all the other stuff. 852 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 1: The production hasn't necessarily been there this year for whatever reason. 853 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 1: He is the one that I could see more people 854 00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,880 Speaker 1: lining up behind and say, if I'm a cast my 855 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,799 Speaker 1: lot with somebody, I'm gonna cast my lot with the 856 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,239 Speaker 1: big guy who has a prototypical trace, the athleticism, who 857 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,760 Speaker 1: we know has the intelligence and audited other stuff. He'll 858 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 1: be the guy that I think could be the one 859 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:13,920 Speaker 1: that people set alone when it's all said and done, 860 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:15,839 Speaker 1: if he elected to come out, it's gonna be fast. 861 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,799 Speaker 1: We'll see. Uh. That deadline is usually the second week 862 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 1: of January, when these these guys decide who who's gonna 863 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 1: come out, who's not gonna come out? At that point 864 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 1: in time, then we start mock draft season. Buck, let's 865 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 1: enjoy these last sacred few weeks. I know, all right, 866 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:29,640 Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for us here, Buck. A lot 867 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 1: of fun today, A lot of ground to cover we uh. 868 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 1: We will be back later in the week for another episode. 869 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,799 Speaker 1: We got a bunch of videos coming out. Better secondary. 870 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 1: What's the best secondary of the NFL? Will debate that 871 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 1: between Chiefs, Broncos, Seahawks, Cardinals, and then we're gonna have 872 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 1: a really spirited debate. We're gonna bring in Judge Reggie 873 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 1: Wayne to decide who has the better offense that Dallas 874 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 1: Cowboys or the Oakland Raiders. So be on the lookout 875 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,279 Speaker 1: for those videos. 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