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Speaker 1: This is One Bill's Live, presented by Called Light to Health.

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Speaker 1: All Right, welcome to another week of One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you and Steve. You know,

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Speaker 1: no matter how old you are, you can always learn something.

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Speaker 1: And I learned something this weekend. I learned what the

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Speaker 1: word your broni means? What does it mean? Definition? Okay,

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Speaker 1: are you ready? Jabroni a foolish or contemptible person. Get

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Speaker 1: it together you jabronis is an example. So I was

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Speaker 1: happy to learn that one Travis Kelsey, who I know

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Speaker 1: in these parts, is not exactly the most popular guy

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Speaker 1: for obvious reasons. He unceremoniously ended the bills twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: one run to the super Bowl in the Divisional round

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Speaker 1: with an overtime winning touchdown and has carved up Buffalo's

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Speaker 1: defense in the playoffs, but it was hard not to

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Speaker 1: chuckle when he called out the mayor of Cincinnati, who,

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Speaker 1: for those who did not know going into the game,

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Speaker 1: said he wanted Patrick Mahomes to take a paternity test

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Speaker 1: because Joe Burrow was his daddy. So as Travis Kelsey

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Speaker 1: was raising the AFC Championship Trophy the Lamar Hunt Trophy

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Speaker 1: on the stage after their twenty three twenty win over

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Speaker 1: said Cincinnati Bengals. Travis Kelsey had the following to offer

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Speaker 1: to all Bengals fans. Do we have that Hey, I

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Speaker 1: got some wise words for that Cincinnati mayor. No your

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Speaker 1: role and shut your mouth. You're jo broody. You gotta

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Speaker 1: fight for you all right? And then he yeah, then

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Speaker 1: he quotes the Beastie Boys, So you know, guy's got

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Speaker 1: a whole new status in my book. Yeah, that was Listen, Cincinnati,

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Speaker 1: we say we win as a team. He lose as

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Speaker 1: a team man, all of the city, the mayor, all

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Speaker 1: the way down through the football team, everybody. Every I

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Speaker 1: was a team loss, right there. I was for Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. These are days when the internet is undefeated,

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Speaker 1: and on social media it is undefeated in a way

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Speaker 1: that most cannot fathom. And you know, if you're gonna

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Speaker 1: walk the walk, you better be prepared to deal with

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Speaker 1: the consequences if you don't come out on the right

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Speaker 1: end of a football game. And I don't know if

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Speaker 1: I've seen Eli Apple gift as burnt toast more in

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Speaker 1: my life on social media, the number twenty appearing on

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Speaker 1: a piece of burnt toast several times over In his defense,

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Speaker 1: he really didn't get burned in the game, although he

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Speaker 1: did get toasted in the wildcard playoff that Cincinnati ended

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Speaker 1: up winning to Marcus Robinson got him to bite on

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Speaker 1: a double move. But yeah, man, you're gonna smoke cigars

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Speaker 1: in locker rooms after divisional playoff wins the next week.

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Speaker 1: People are gonna be coming for you if you don't

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Speaker 1: wind up victorious the next week. And that's exactly what

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Speaker 1: happened to him. And I really don't get what the

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Speaker 1: whole Bengals stick was, the whole way, like calling it

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Speaker 1: burrow Heads Stadium, Like what are you doing? I mean,

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Speaker 1: only bringing it on yourself with that stuff. It's crazy.

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Speaker 1: And now listen, they played well in the game. It

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Speaker 1: was a close game, the hard fought game. Kansas City

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Speaker 1: controlled it from the outset, even though they couldn't put

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Speaker 1: distance between themselves and the Bengals. Reason why it is

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Speaker 1: because half the roster got injured. Plus they you know,

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Speaker 1: a turnover at the wrong time, all of that stuff. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and injuries as well, you know. Yet, on one hand,

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Speaker 1: going into the game, he had to admire Cincinnati's swagger

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Speaker 1: because they didn't care they were gonna They were literally

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Speaker 1: talking smacked to the one seed Kansas cy Chiefs, a

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Speaker 1: team who's played in the championship Game five five years

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Speaker 1: in a row. Now, yeah, they played in the championship

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Speaker 1: game and they the challenger comes in talking smack. Now,

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Speaker 1: you can say what you want about the AF. Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: Bengals went to the Super Bowl last year. All right,

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Speaker 1: So if they weren't but they were on the road. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well they figured they won it on the road last year.

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Speaker 1: And to me, this is what this is why Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: was a victim of hubris here. You know, just like

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Speaker 1: Icarus flying a little too close to the sun. They've

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Speaker 1: experienced zero adversity since they first qualified for the playoffs. Zero.

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Speaker 1: You want to talk to me about your backup offensive lineman, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'll listen to that. But they sailed through the postseason

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Speaker 1: last year. They got two takeaways in every dang playoff

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Speaker 1: game last year. That's how they got to the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Joe Burrow in the offense did some stuff,

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Speaker 1: team that's dealing with like PTSD. I'm not a mental

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Speaker 1: health professional, but it wouldn't be surprised if that came

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Speaker 1: again with the Cincinnati Bengals in the playoffs. You can't

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Speaker 1: tell me that those players aren't reminded of the last

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Speaker 1: three weeks ago and that it did not impact them

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Speaker 1: sticking that's my story, and I'm sticking to it, not

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Speaker 1: using it as an excuse. I just think it's a

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Speaker 1: way a lot of those guys played in the Divisional playoff.

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Speaker 1: That's in the rear view mirror. So bottom line of

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Speaker 1: the point I'm trying to make here is Cincinnati has

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Speaker 1: experienced very little hardship since they've become a playoff team

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Speaker 1: last year and now this year. So it's about time

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Speaker 1: they got a little dose of adversity and what the

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Speaker 1: playoffs can dish out for you in terms of difficult

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Speaker 1: things that you've got a stomach, figure out and then

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Speaker 1: get ready and come back again and hope you're a

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Speaker 1: playoff team the next year. It's about time they had

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Speaker 1: some adversity because they had none last year, did you

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Speaker 1: And and you know you listen to it and you

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Speaker 1: see it on on the game. I mean I was

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Speaker 1: obviously I was watching the game just like everybody else.

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Speaker 1: Um at one point the penalty, the penalties and stuff,

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Speaker 1: and you know, Twitter was going crazy with how you

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Speaker 1: know how the officials were called in the game. I

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Speaker 1: that doesn't seem wrong to me, right, UM saying the officials,

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Speaker 1: I'm saying the officials didn't do a bad job the passinger,

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Speaker 1: the pass uh roughing the passer going out of bounds.

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine if that was Joe Burg going out

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Speaker 1: you can't do that. You can't do that. And I

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Speaker 1: get this. Every third down or the third down or

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Speaker 1: the fourth down that was called back and they'd stopped

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Speaker 1: the play, they showed it on the they showed on

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Speaker 1: the replay the official was running in from the battle

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Speaker 1: but he heard him. Nobody heard him. I get it.

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Speaker 1: And you know the same thing, um, holding calls. You

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Speaker 1: can go back and forth. Oh my gosh, you can

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Speaker 1: go back and forth with that every single game, every

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Speaker 1: single snap. Um, it's crazy. So I didn't you know,

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Speaker 1: the Bengals can say what they want. The Chiefs weren't

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs controlled play throughout that game. I thought they

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Speaker 1: There's no question it was close. It was as close

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying I didn't think. I'm I'm having a

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Speaker 1: hard time getting my mind around the officiate, the officials

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Speaker 1: deciding calls. There the DeVante Smith catch that clearly hit

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Speaker 1: the ground after the fact, it was never reviewed by

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Speaker 1: the sky judge or anybody else. They were trying. Why

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Speaker 1: do we have a sky judge If you're not going

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Speaker 1: to be aggressive in helping the guys on the field

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Speaker 1: got so much time understood, and they've got but they

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Speaker 1: got every camera angle known to man. How did they

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Speaker 1: not see that one? Listen, you gotta push buttons and

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Speaker 1: get that stuff to roll back before you can look

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Speaker 1: at it. I'll have somebody and then, and I'll say

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Speaker 1: this too. As a receiver, I saw that guy's I

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Speaker 1: saw DeVante get up, saw the look on his face,

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Speaker 1: saw him give this signal two fists together. I was like,

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Speaker 1: I don't think he caught that. I don't think he

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Speaker 1: I get it. You think, well, they're gonna they'll look

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Speaker 1: a touchdown at the very least, call a time out.

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Speaker 1: It was fourth down, you're off the field. Throw the

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Speaker 1: challenge flag. Yeah, it's that, and they you know that's

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Speaker 1: completely botched opportunity by San Francisco. And I was there's

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Speaker 1: when that guy gets up calling like that. Now, I say,

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Speaker 1: I know they could have it in their playbook. Hey,

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Speaker 1: and do all that. He act like you get up

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Speaker 1: and let's do it. So we'll make him waste of

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Speaker 1: when you catch it, even if you catch it, get

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Speaker 1: really catch that. Make him throw their challenge. No, that

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Speaker 1: if he makes a catch like that in normal times,

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Speaker 1: that guy calls it. He gets up and he's given

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Speaker 1: the first down signal, he's taking a knee, and he's

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Speaker 1: given the little archer thing towards the end zone. He's

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Speaker 1: doing all this celebrations. He didn't do any of that.

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Speaker 1: I did not catch it. You gotta come on. That's

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Speaker 1: that's body language. One oh one. What are the The

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Speaker 1: you've got it. I mean, I don't know why down.

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Speaker 1: I mean you're talking about it. That change of possession points.

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Speaker 1: it might not have beate a difference, and I'm all

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Speaker 1: because it took it took Philly a long time to

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Speaker 1: start scoring points. Yeah, and if you go into their building,

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Speaker 1: he'd get up on them or you know, do the

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Speaker 1: things that the the Niners were capable of doing. Before

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Speaker 1: they're down to quarterback number eight wherever it was, you know,

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Speaker 1: they you gotta think Philly's gonna start puckering up a

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Speaker 1: little bit. I was disappointed that the forty nine ers

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Speaker 1: didn't go to pure and unadulterated street ball backyard football.

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Speaker 1: Once you lost Josh Johnson to a concussion. Once that

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Speaker 1: happened and Brock Purty couldn't throw the ball more than

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Speaker 1: five yards, that was the time to put Deebo Samuel

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Speaker 1: you guys run the X. Just don't hit each other, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta just you can pull it all

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Speaker 1: out of the bag. Deebo, can you make that throw? Yeah? Okay,

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Speaker 1: this is what we're gonna call right, I get it,

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Speaker 1: and if you if you got nobody open, start running,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like, that's what I would

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Speaker 1: have done, McCaffrey, and at the very end, but it's

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Speaker 1: too late. It's I know, social media, it's where we

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Speaker 1: live in it. As soon as that happens, where Josh

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Speaker 1: with a concussion, all over social media. Was just like

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Speaker 1: there is no in between with Dak Prescott. It's not like, oh,

428
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Speaker 1: you know what, he played pretty well today. It's either Wow,

429
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 1: look at that guy, or it's like, oh my god,

430
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 1: look at that guy. Yeah, I mean that's what he is.

431
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 1: There is no in between with Dak prescotting guy. He's polarizing,

432
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:37,879
Speaker 1: no question, I've heard people do this. Where do you

433
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 1: put it? Give me a comparable starting quarterback in the

434
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Speaker 1: NFL to Dak Prescott is right now? Is it? Cousins?

435
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Speaker 1: I want to believe that Dak Dak Prescott can do

436
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 1: more for you than Kirk Cousins can. Or what about

437
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill. I think they're above average, but in different ways.

438
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 1: He's like you guys. Is he like Kyler Murray? I

439
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 1: don't even like Kyler Mury? So that's you know what

440
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,640
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Got's a better team guy in a better

441
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Speaker 1: I'm talking about. I'm talking about if you if you

442
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Speaker 1: were going to sit there and have your team take

443
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Speaker 1: the field. I think I think Dak press is significantly

444
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 1: better than Kirk Cousins, slightly better. That's that's probably better

445
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 1: and better than Kyler Murray than too or I'm biased again?

446
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:31,120
Speaker 1: Is Dak Prescott more effective now than a forty five

447
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 1: year old Tom Brady. Yes, I would say yes, But

448
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Speaker 1: if you can't work with his mistakes, you'll probably take

449
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Speaker 1: Brady because he doesn't make his many. I mean, the

450
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Speaker 1: reason Tom Brady has seven Super Bowls is he doesn't

451
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Speaker 1: make mistakes. He's death by a thousand cuts, most efficient

452
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Speaker 1: quarterback maybe to ever play the football. And that's why

453
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Speaker 1: he wins. He doesn't win because he's got unbelievable athletic ability.

454
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Speaker 1: He wins because he doesn't make mistakes. He knows, he's

455
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 1: he knows how to win the game. So you'll take

456
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Speaker 1: Dak over Tom Brady right now today, I mean, right now,

457
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Speaker 1: I believe I get a skills or deterior rating. Right, Okay,

458
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 1: what about let's go down list Aaron Rodgers. You take

459
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 1: Dak over Aaron? All right? Matthew Stafford healthy I take Stafford? Yeah,

460
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 1: me too. I mean, I love doing this because this

461
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 1: is how this is how bad it is. I love it.

462
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 1: I think that's why Kellen Moore is like, all right,

463
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 1: here's my here's the seventy thousand dollars questions, sixty four

464
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Speaker 1: thousand dollar question that's all we're paying. Okay, every no,

465
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Speaker 1: no other considerations. Is just to plug one guy in,

466
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Speaker 1: one guy out here for one year. We're talking one year,

467
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Speaker 1: one game career. Yeah, I'm just starting to fran. Let's

468
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Speaker 1: say one off full off season and through the year,

469
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Speaker 1: see how it goes. Who would go better? Dak Prescott

470
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Speaker 1: Russ Wilson. Oh, that's a good one. Um, I would go.

471
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Speaker 1: I would take Russell Wilson only because I want to

472
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 1: believe last year for Russell Wilson was an aberration, not

473
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 1: a trend. Dak Prescott has been this way for the

474
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,880
Speaker 1: last four years, right, you know, you say you're doc

475
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott in the Dallas offense and all that like

476
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Speaker 1: is a known commodity. You think the upside on Russ

477
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 1: Wilson's better because I want to believe, right, That's what

478
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Speaker 1: I mean. Yeah, Okay, yeah, yeah, And that's the only

479
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 1: reason I'm doing. What about a guy like Justin Fields

480
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,199
Speaker 1: in a better system, like in a better organization like Dallas.

481
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: I think you know more about what Dak is, So

482
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Speaker 1: if you can live with it, you take that, because

483
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 1: Fields is still very much an unknown. What happens if

484
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Speaker 1: you put Dak Prescott on the New York Football Jets.

485
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,360
Speaker 1: I love this. I just love this. I just absolutely

486
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Speaker 1: I am gonna say, if Dak Prescott is on the

487
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 1: New York Jets right now, they are there. They are

488
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: an eleven and six football team, and they're good enough

489
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Speaker 1: to make the playoffs, but Dak will kill them in

490
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Speaker 1: the post season and then they yeah, they may win playoff.

491
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: So you think they could win the division against the

492
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Speaker 1: Bills with Dak? No? All right, so they're a wild

493
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Speaker 1: card team. So if they go on the road, say

494
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Speaker 1: this year they get the five seed, they go on

495
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 1: the road to Jacksonville, do they beat that team? They might?

496
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: They might, They could win a playoff game. Yeah, you know,

497
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 1: all right, that's about it. Though. That's interesting. That's I

498
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 1: love that he is a roller coaster. He is a

499
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 1: personification of a roller coaster. So his offensive coordinator pulls

500
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: the rip cord. Yeah I'm out, Kellen guess his name,

501
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: and he gets to work with Justin Herbert instead. I mean,

502
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Speaker 1: I'll say this, talk about going to the penthouse. Yeah,

503
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: that's really intriguing for Jefferson's moving on up. I don't know, Herbert,

504
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: you wouldn't you wouldn't rather work with Herbert than Prescott.

505
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: Come on now, No, that's not the that's not what

506
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Speaker 1: I'm talking about. You're talking about. I'm talking about going

507
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: from the Dallas Cowboys right to the LA slash San

508
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: Diego no fan Chargers, Oh that them of this. If

509
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: the Chargers won the Super Bowl, there'd be like six

510
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: people at the parade. That's not true. Six. LA is

511
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 1: as front runner as any city in America. Yeah, we

512
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: saw that this right, You're right. When the Rams won it,

513
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: there were five hundred people at their right, there were

514
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Speaker 1: five hundred. Two hundred and fifty even were employees and families,

515
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: and the other two hundred and fifty was the vast

516
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Speaker 1: there's a more n I get. It is as front

517
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Speaker 1: running as you can get. So I'm just saying, if

518
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Speaker 1: you're Kelling Moore, you're going from a building in Dallas

519
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 1: at the Star where absolutely everything's about winning football games,

520
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: and the biggest problem is probably the owner cares so

521
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: much he can't keep his hands off it to a

522
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Speaker 1: team in LA that is notorious sleep, poorly lead, yeah,

523
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: and notoriously cheap. They do have two twenty million dollars

524
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 1: year receivers. I don't know if we can say that really,

525
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 1: how Okay, things are gonna change. I'm just saying, I'm

526
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Speaker 1: I can say what you want. It's awesome. It's awesome.

527
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Speaker 1: He's got Justin Herbert to work with. He's gonna be

528
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be great. Everything else is what I'm talking about. Yeah,

529
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: and very quickly the head coach was on the hot seat. Well,

530
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Speaker 1: I think that's why you have a new offensive coordinator there.

531
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Speaker 1: I'm just you know, yep, I mean they you know,

532
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Speaker 1: they were what they were, second in the division with

533
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:49,959
Speaker 1: wildcard ten and seven with that guy with the other guy. Okay,

534
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: all that's interesting stuff. Though. There there is more coaching

535
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 1: carousel news that we have to get to with you.

536
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Speaker 1: We saw over the weekend that Vic Fangio was reported

537
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: to be the next defensive coordinator of the Miami Dolphins.

538
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: Hold on a second, that may not be happening. We'll

539
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: explain why next. Here on One Bills Live presented by

540
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: Kalida Health. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, welcome

541
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: back to One Bill's Live. Still spinning our way around

542
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: the NFL with the coaching carousel in full swing, seemingly

543
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: more on the assistant coaching front than even the head

544
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 1: coaching front. And we saw over the weekend, Steve. I

545
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: saw it on the crawl on ESPN. Vic Fangio, former

546
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: Broncos head coach, is slated to become the new defensive

547
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Speaker 1: coordinator the Miami Dolphins. So I was like, oh, all right,

548
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: that'll be interesting for the division next year. We get

549
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: into the office today and people, I will hold on

550
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: a second, that might not be happening. Michael Silver, formerly

551
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 1: of the NFL Network and now a columnist for the

552
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: San Francisco Chronicle, is reporting that Vic Fangio told him

553
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: last night quote, nothing has been decided on my end.

554
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 1: So apparently Silver is reporting that there is a lot

555
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: of mutual respect between San Francisco forty nine Ers head

556
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Speaker 1: coach Kyle Shanahan and Vic Fangio. Fangio has worked for

557
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: the Niners before he was the DC under Jim Harbaugh

558
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: when he was the head coach there, and knowing that

559
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: Damiko Ryans, their current defensive coordinator, is probably taking the

560
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: head coaching job in Houston, he'll suddenly have an opening.

561
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Speaker 1: So the way Michael Silver's painting this, it sounds as

562
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: though Kyle Shanahan called Vic Fangio and said, hey, before

563
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: you take that dolls DC job. What are your thoughts

564
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: about working with the number one defense in football next

565
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,479
Speaker 1: year here in San Francisco, because I may have an

566
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 1: opening for you. Absolutely, Vic Fanjo's like, uh yeah, oh oh, listen.

567
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: I mean, now, look, the Niners have a bunch of

568
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Speaker 1: free agents. They're not gonna bring all of those guys

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Speaker 1: back next year. They gotta pay Nick Bosa, which they'll

570
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: probably do right. But they got some other guys that

571
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: could be walking out the door. But still that is

572
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: a better group than the one they've got in Miami.

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Speaker 1: Not that Miami's got a slouch defense or defense pretty good,

574
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: good personnel, but Fangio man I could see him going

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00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: back to San Francisco in the second usually and that's funny,

576
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 1: not funny. But we talked about it a little bit

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Speaker 1: last week. At the end of it, I'm still a

578
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Speaker 1: proponent of getting the right guy rather than getting the

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Speaker 1: getting a guy fast. I think the Broncos and even

580
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Speaker 1: the coordinator stuff with the Miami Dolphins, the forty nine ers,

581
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: Arizona's searching for a head coach, and don't if they

582
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Speaker 1: get a head coach and then they're gonna be searching

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Speaker 1: for coordinators as well. I still think it's better to

584
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 1: do it slowly and make sure you get the right

585
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 1: guy than to go in and say, we got to

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00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,399
Speaker 1: have a guy, because we got to start getting our

587
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 1: player evaluations together, we got to start thinking about the draft.

588
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 1: We gotta start thinking about our needs. Free agencies just

589
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 1: around the corner. Don't get caught up in all of that.

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00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: Most of the coaches from the pool that these teams

591
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: will be hiring from, no off the top of their

592
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: head what they think of most of the guys that

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Speaker 1: are going to be on the free agent market. So

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Speaker 1: it's better to take your time and get the right guy.

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00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: And I think all these clubs are doing it now.

596
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: Carolina got their guy and Frank Reich, which it's hard

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00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: to argue with the reasoning behind that makes a lot

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00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 1: of sense on a lot of levels. But beyond that,

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00:34:56,200 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: the coordinators and the head coaches, I'm it really seems

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00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: like this is a very low key off season for

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00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: that stuff. Yeah, really low key. I'm surprised how long

602
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: it is taking, and a little probably due in part

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00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 1: to the fact that the teams that were still playing

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00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: heading into championship weekend had defensive and offensive coordinators that

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00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,760
Speaker 1: were of interest to the club's looking for new head coaches,

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00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: and maybe that put a crimp in the process in

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Speaker 1: terms of the timeliness of it, because you still have

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00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: four head coaching openings still out there. Frank Reich's the

609
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: only one that's filled one to this point in Carolina.

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Speaker 1: The other thing in the off season that now must

611
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Speaker 1: be dealt with for all the teams that are not

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Speaker 1: still playing free agency, Cincinnati Bengals have a bunch of

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Speaker 1: key free agents on their roster, including three quarters of

614
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: their starting secondary, both starting safeties Jesse Bates and Von Bell,

615
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: along with cornerback Eli Apple everybody's favorite, all free agents,

616
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Speaker 1: along with starting linebacker Jermaine Pratt, who lined up next

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00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 1: to Logan Wilson in that defense at the linebacker position.

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Speaker 1: Some j p Rhyan, tight end Hayden Hurst also free agents.

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati is under the cap to the tune of forty

620
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 1: four million dollars in cap space, but some of a

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Speaker 1: good portion of that money is earmarked for Joe Burrow,

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Speaker 1: who's going to be getting a new contract and gobble

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Speaker 1: up probably at least three quarters of that, maybe more.

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Speaker 1: This is third year he just finished, so he is

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00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: going to be is eligible for an extension. All right,

626
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Speaker 1: So I wonder, knowing what I do about the Bengals

627
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: in decades past, time to pay up not until his

628
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 1: fifth year? Well maybe they might. Wait, I don't know

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Speaker 1: how you can with a guy that got to the

630
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Speaker 1: AFC title game each of the last two years and

631
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: an AFC title because you're not required to. You're not

632
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 1: required to. But I mean, in the end, they will

633
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,399
Speaker 1: pay him. Do you want to pay him fifty million

634
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: a year now or do you want to pay him

635
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: sixty million a year next year? Because the way that

636
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: quarterback money's going up, right, you can either get in

637
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Speaker 1: at fifty a year this year or probably play upwards

638
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: as close to sixty give next year. At that time.

639
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: I've heard this bandaged around two that it might be

640
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 1: time for one of these franchises to get their their

641
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: guy and tie his salary to a percentage of the

642
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 1: salary cap. Yeah, that's an interesting way to do so.

643
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 1: And say, for instance, it's usually been the it's somewhere

644
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 1: around seventeen percent twenty percent is right about where quarterbacks

645
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: are falling percent of a team percent of a team

646
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: salary cap. Yeah, well, and and so what it would

647
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: be is it would help the club because it would

648
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,879
Speaker 1: automatically give the guy what he's worth, but also give

649
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: him cost certainty and if the team costs, if the

650
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: team costs certain t. Yeah, and you know they wouldn't

651
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: have to hide my or however they wanted to structure it.

652
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: That's what it would be against the captain. They know, okay,

653
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: we're locking and for this percentage going to the quarterback

654
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: every year, and Burrow being that guy who is you

655
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 1: know two, I mean he's he's headed towards Mahomes territory,

656
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 1: Mahomes been in five AFC Championship game. Remember, he's the

657
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 1: one that signed the five hundred million dollars a year

658
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: deal or five hundred million dollars contract. So Burrow might

659
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 1: be the next guy that they're saying, okay, you know,

660
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: let's do that, and he might be the guy that

661
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: gets a percentage rather than a flat number. Yeah. I

662
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: just I don't know that a player agent is going

663
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 1: to go for that, especially so soon off the heels

664
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Speaker 1: of two straight seasons during COVID where the cap went backwards.

665
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: Does that mean my guy takes a pay cut, because

666
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 1: that ain't gonna fly. Oh, if they have another pandemic.

667
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 1: Who's to say you wouldn't I get you, you know

668
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 1: what I mean, that's the only reason I can saying, yeah,

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00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: that's all great, your cost certainty and everything, but I'm

670
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,439
Speaker 1: not running the risk of my guy getting a pay

671
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: cut because we have another pandemic. They could also they

672
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 1: could also do that and then have an insurance policy

673
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 1: or something pay that like if the cap goes towards backwards,

674
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: if there's another pandemic or something like that, or you know,

675
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: a catastrophe of some sort. I just don't know how

676
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: you write that in there and make sure than numbers stay.

677
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: There are people smarter than me doing it. So obviously, yeah,

678
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: that's why I'm not doing a lot of them. So,

679
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,320
Speaker 1: but that's that's one way they could go. Now, Obviously,

680
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 1: for Burrow, he's gonna say what's the percentage first of all,

681
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 1: and if they give you know, if it comes out

682
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:33,439
Speaker 1: to be well, on a on a two hundred and

683
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: twenty four million dollar cap, what's like seventeen percent of

684
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: that it's thirty four let's go, I say it's forty

685
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: four millions. Say that's the number. That's about right. I

686
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: don't think it is. He's gonna get more than that. Well,

687
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray got forty six a year. Kyler Murray, what

688
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: are you gonna give Burrow? Well, that's my point is

689
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 1: how much you're gonna guarantee? Is he gonna be a

690
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: twenty percent cut of the salary cap for five years?

691
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 1: Seven years? Yeah? The jumping off point if I'm Burrows

692
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 1: people is fifty. We start there. If that guy Kyler

693
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 1: Murray's getting forty six, I'm Joe Burrow. Yeah that's true,

694
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 1: Like forty six for that guy, Joe? Cool? What am

695
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: I getting? I get it? He could he could stand

696
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: on the table and say, you know you need to

697
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: start at fifty. Yeah, you need. I'm gonna stand on

698
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 1: this table and when you stack cash up to my chin,

699
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: we'll talk. He might do that. I mean that Kyler

700
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: Murray is he comes from that baseball background where he

701
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: just started throwing about me. He's yeah, he just it's

702
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: all about me, throw a hissy fit, and I'm not

703
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 1: gonna do anything until I get what I want. Um. Yeah,

704
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: he's like more and goodfellas. I want my money, right,

705
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: where's my money? Where's my money? And I'll give you

706
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 1: the money. So there it is, You're right. Most guys

707
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: football players come from a different place and they know

708
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 1: they got to go in the locker room and live

709
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: with these guys. And yeah, but when you're also the

710
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: guy and you've got success on the field in the

711
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: postseason to back it up, while another guy who doesn't

712
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: hasn't won it, what do they win one playoff game

713
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: in his career the Highland Murray didn't win one. They

714
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: doesn't have a play his career was Hail Murray the highlight.

715
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 1: That guy is getting forty six a year. There is

716
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: no way that Burrow is not getting at least fifty

717
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: and it might get it might get higher than that.

718
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 1: As frugal as Mike Brown wants to be in Cincinnati,

719
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 1: you could get somewhere between fifty two and fifty five

720
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: a year for Joe Burrow. Here's this and I get it.

721
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 1: Cincinnati may play hardball with him, they may fine. I'm

722
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 1: just a yeah, stupid to do that. Well, they did

723
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:05,359
Speaker 1: it with Carson Palm, Carson just sitting forget and if

724
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: they if it got them two ones, got them two

725
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 1: ones and no playoff wins. They even make the playoffs. Well,

726
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 1: when it if you've been following the Cincinnati Bengals back

727
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: when Mike Brown was doing the day to day instead

728
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 1: of his daughter Katie Blackburn. They didn't really they valued

729
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: one over the other. And it wasn't the playoff wins

730
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: that they valued. Right, We're gonna take a break here.

731
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: When we come back, we're gonna sift through some of

732
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 1: the Chiefs pending free agents to see how their roster

733
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 1: could potentially change from this year two next. I know

734
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: they're in the super Bowl. They're always going to be

735
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: good with Patrick Mahomes at the helm. It'd be interesting

736
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: to see who could be coming off that roster this

737
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 1: coming off season. We'll discuss next year on One Bill's Live.

738
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 1: All right, So, last segment, we were talking about how

739
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 1: the Bengals roster could change based on some of the

740
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 1: free agent decisions that they have to make, including three

741
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: fourths of their starting secondary being unrect set to become

742
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 1: unrestricted free agents, and we decided to peruse around the

743
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: Chiefs roster to see what decisions they might have to

744
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: make in the off season. I don't think it's as

745
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 1: egregious as Cincinnati's. Their left tackle Orlando Brown is up,

746
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 1: Juju Smith Schuster only signed a one year deal last offseason,

747
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: so he's up. And then beyond that, Mikole Hardman or

748
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: Mcole Hardman is another guy starting safety one Thornhill. So

749
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: they've got a handful of players that they have to

750
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 1: make a call on. So yeah, I mean their roster

751
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: figures to change to what degree, I don't know. I

752
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: think you could argue of the three power teams in

753
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: the AFC, which I would call Buffalo, Cincinnati, Kansas City

754
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: right now, Kansas City has the best offensive line I believe,

755
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,720
Speaker 1: of the group, and understandably so they invested giant money

756
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:22,240
Speaker 1: in it. Orlando Brown. You know, they acquire via trade

757
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: Joe Tuney, they pay top of the market money for him.

758
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: As the top guard on the free agent market, Creed Humphrey.

759
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: Creed Humphreys a first round draft choice their center. So yeah,

760
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 1: they've invested. So it should be the best offensive line

761
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,879
Speaker 1: of those three, and I think it is. How much

762
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: does that change with Orlando Brown their left tackle now

763
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 1: a free agent. We'll have to see. Maybe they go

764
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: back in the draft and get another alignement like they

765
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 1: did Creed Humphrey. But yeah, I think the Bills are

766
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 1: going to have to address their offensive line in short

767
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,359
Speaker 1: order this offseason because you know, they had a lot

768
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 1: of veterans on one year contract. Most of those players

769
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 1: of the backup variety staffolds a free agent. You may

770
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 1: have to figure out some contracts, uh, you know with

771
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:13,240
Speaker 1: Mitch Morris and Dion Dawkins who have big money deals.

772
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: You know, Spencer Brown, Ryan Bates is kind of locked

773
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: into his deal. He's only entering year or two of

774
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: a four year deal, which is relatively cost effective. And

775
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: Spencer Brown still on his rookie deal. So really it's

776
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 1: Morrison Dawkins that you may have to go hat in

777
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 1: hand too and come up with some solutions. I mean,

778
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: I thought, for my money, Morris was the most consistent

779
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 1: lineman of the group all season long. Was he did

780
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 1: he miss any time this year? Missed a game one game?

781
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: Wasn't ye? Or did he come out of a game

782
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 1: and come back in the next week. I'm gonna have

783
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: to double check. I want to say he missed one

784
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: game and came out of one or two hours. I

785
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,839
Speaker 1: think you're right. I think Bates did go to center, yeah,

786
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,320
Speaker 1: and Van Roden went in for him in the Titans

787
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: game in weeked who I want to say, so, yeah,

788
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: he missed parts of some games. Did he missed, might

789
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: have missed one start. I'm not going to remember that

790
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 1: off the top of my head, but for my money,

791
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 1: I thought he was the most consistent lineman of the five,

792
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: the starting five anyway. Bates had a good season, kind

793
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: of tailed off a little at the end. You know,

794
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: he wasn't outstanding by any means, but he was serviceable.

795
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 1: Dawkins had some good weeks and then he had some

796
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: other weeks where I think even he would tell you

797
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 1: he didn't play up to his standard. So, you know,

798
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: in Saffold was kind of a mixed bag. And you know,

799
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 1: Spencer Brown had his good days and is not so

800
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 1: good days. It just seemed there were some games where

801
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: it wasn't a question of ability with Spencer. I just

802
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: felt there were sometimes he just didn't read the play,

803
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 1: like here comes the nickel corner off the side, I

804
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,839
Speaker 1: gotta go get him, and you know, not recognizing things

805
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 1: quickly enough, ye diagnosing and that kind of thing. Yeah,

806
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 1: it's and taught to me by my own observations and

807
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 1: what talking to coach and everything, and everybody says it

808
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 1: and then they have trouble executing the idea that It

809
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: all starts up front. For all these football teams, the

810
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: guys with the best offensive and defensive lines get the

811
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 1: most out of their skill players. Yeah, that's it. It's

812
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: that simple. The problem is this, as I've said before,

813
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 1: it's those guys don't grow on trees. They're different physically.

814
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: They're big, and they're athletic, and just because you know

815
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: they'll have big guys who will get chance after a chance,

816
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 1: but they're just not athletic enough for strong enough to

817
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 1: be a great player. You spend your whole life looking

818
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: for those guys because there's never enough of them. You

819
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 1: got thirty two teams, each of them have five of

820
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: those guys that they'd really depend on and go actually

821
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 1: go eight. So you're talking about two hundred and fifty

822
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: guys or so across the league that you need to

823
00:47:55,719 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 1: be genetically different. You know Spencer Brown six eight, you

824
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 1: know Greg Russo six seven, guys like that. Uh, and

825
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 1: they you know, those guys walk around. Those guys are

826
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 1: kind of more long and lean. Then you got guys

827
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 1: like the guys I played with, like Ted Washington or

828
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: Fletcher Cox, who are well over three hundred bills three

829
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 1: hundred pounds and they can run. You can't find those guys.

830
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: The biggest person you know you've ever met isn't Usually

831
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: for most people, isn't big enough or strong enough or

832
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 1: athletic enough. Playing in the NFL. You don't have You've

833
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 1: probably never met one of those guys. They're they're hard

834
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:42,280
Speaker 1: to find. So there's not enough of them to go around.

835
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: I had, I had executives back in my day. We're

836
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 1: talking about expanse. You know when it was when in

837
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: nineties when Jacksonville and Carolina come into the league. I

838
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 1: was talking about it. So what you know? How much

839
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 1: are they gonna go? How? How you know? Because I

840
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:57,879
Speaker 1: keep going, I mean, they're gonna put teams. We're talking

841
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 1: back then about London, England and a Drid and Berlin

842
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 1: teams like this. You know we're going to American Bulls.

843
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,839
Speaker 1: We talk about such things. And at that time, the

844
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 1: guy that I was talking to was like this. He's like, nah,

845
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 1: I don't We're not gonna do We won't be able

846
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 1: to do it. Why not? You don't have enough? There

847
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: are enough players for some old yeah. Wood talks about

848
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 1: it all the time. The state of offensive lines in

849
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 1: this league is at an all time low in terms

850
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 1: of talent across the board, and about half the league

851
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 1: has averaged to substandard offensive lines because, as you said,

852
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 1: there aren't enough good ones to go around. Satch it together.

853
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: Every year they keep track of all these guys coming

854
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 1: out of Power five schools, all the guys coming out

855
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: of Division one schools, Division two schools, Division three. They

856
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: know where all those big guys are. They look at

857
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 1: them because they're trying to find them. And you've gotta

858
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 1: be you gotta you gotta be able to do some

859
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 1: things athletically. They can't. Just because you're big. Don't cut it.

860
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:08,439
Speaker 1: And I've seen it for decades and these he said,

861
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 1: wasn't We can't expand too far because there's enough guys

862
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:12,399
Speaker 1: to go around. We don't have to good players. Plus

863
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 1: he goes, what happens is we expand to say, what

864
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 1: are you know picking up forty teams and you got

865
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 1: him in, You've got him in me know, Mexico City

866
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 1: and all these places, you know whatever, pick your cities.

867
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 1: The level of play is going to start to decline

868
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 1: because there aren't enough really good football players to fit

869
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: out those teams. We're talking about forty new starting offensive

870
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: lignemen for eight teams. You have to find forty starting

871
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: caliber alignement for those for those eight teams and the

872
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 1: team let alone backup the thirty two teams. Now we're

873
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:47,359
Speaker 1: looking for guys. Yeah, yeah, all right, we gotta take

874
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,359
Speaker 1: a break because when we come back our number two,

875
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 1: we'll be kicked off with Boston Globe senior NFL reporter

876
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 1: Ben Voland joining us show. He's gonna talk about some

877
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 1: of the things he's looking at with respect to the

878
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,800
Speaker 1: super Bowl matchup coming up here in a couple of weeks,

879
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 1: as well as some of the developments going on in

880
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 1: New England. They have a new OC up there, a

881
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 1: new old OC. What does that mean for Mac Jones.

882
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 1: We'll discuss all of that with Ben Villen. Next here

883
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,399
Speaker 1: on One Bill's Live presented by Colloid of Health, It's

884
00:51:13,400 --> 00:52:00,919
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio, These One Bills Live presented by Called

885
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Speaker 1: to Health. All right, here we are our number two

886
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 1: on a Monday, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you One

887
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: Bills Live. Please to be joined now by senior NFL

888
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 1: reporter for the Boston Globe, Ben Villin, joining us on

889
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 1: the show. Ben, how are you doing? You're ready for

890
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl. I am I'm ready for the Andy

891
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: Reid Bowl, the Kelsey Bowl, bring it all on. Yeah,

892
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,800
Speaker 1: fair enough, fair enough? Any do you have any issues

893
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 1: with the way those games went yesterday? I mean, I

894
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:33,439
Speaker 1: know social media tends to hyperbalize everything, and it's either

895
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 1: all of this and none of that, or all of

896
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 1: that and none of this. What did you think, Well, Steve,

897
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: like the rest of you, I thought the Bengals got

898
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: jobbed yesterday. I thought the officiating was pretty one sided.

899
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 1: And to see if I was just being, you know,

900
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 1: visceral and a fan, I called up a guy, Jim Dappolis.

901
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 1: He used to be a supervisor of NFL officials for

902
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,879
Speaker 1: nineteen years. He was an on field umpire. He worked

903
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,439
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. So that Jim, what do you think? Oh,

904
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:03,839
Speaker 1: the Bengals got hosed yesterday. I can't believe all those

905
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 1: miss calls. So even the officiating community didn't think the

906
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 1: games went so well. And it's a shame that we're

907
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:12,240
Speaker 1: talking about the officiating and not what a warrior Patrick

908
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 1: Mahomes was last night. And even Joe Burrow played like

909
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 1: a champion. And I just wrote an article that just

910
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 1: published on Boston Globe dot Com it's these All Star

911
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: officiating crews that they do it in the postseason where

912
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:26,840
Speaker 1: you know you're with your crew all seventeen weeks of

913
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 1: the eighteen weeks of the regular season, and then they

914
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: just picked the best of the best and they do

915
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 1: a mishmash crew during the playoffs. And the guys that

916
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 1: are working the conference championship games yesterday, that was the

917
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:37,919
Speaker 1: first time they ever worked with each other. They didn't

918
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 1: have any other prior game to work with each other,

919
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 1: and you see confusion and dysfunction, and it's just it's

920
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 1: not seamless to have these guys who haven't worked together

921
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 1: before having to do this in these big games. So

922
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:54,280
Speaker 1: I thought it was really unfortunate the All Star officiating system.

923
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 1: It's actually collectively bargained with the referee, so it's not

924
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 1: like the NFL can just change it. They would have

925
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,319
Speaker 1: to change it with the referee. But I just think

926
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 1: they've got to come up with something a little bit

927
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: better because these mishmash All Star crews are making too

928
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 1: many mistakes in the league's biggest games. I'll say this though,

929
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 1: and I've talked to guys like Mike Pereira and Mike

930
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 1: carry Back when they were with CBS and Fox and

931
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 1: all that stuff. I've spoken with those guys also gene

932
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 1: Strator as well. One of the things about those the

933
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 1: Finger quotes the All Star Cruise, most of the guys

934
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: on those crews have worked with at least two or

935
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 1: three of the other guys on the cruise throughout different year.

936
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 1: So it's not like they're strangers showing up. But you're

937
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: right as a as a crew, they haven't worked together,

938
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 1: but with individuals and line of communication, being friendly enough

939
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 1: and being familiarized with those guys, usually that's the case.

940
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: And and I get it. You could make it crew wide.

941
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 1: How the game, you know, how the officials are evaluated

942
00:54:56,560 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 1: instead of individually. But I've heard as well that has

943
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: a ripple effect with the evaluation process that the officials

944
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,360
Speaker 1: don't like because of the way that comes. You know

945
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 1: what I mean. If you get a weak link in

946
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 1: your crew, all of a sudden, the crew starts to

947
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,399
Speaker 1: be dysfunctional because they're trying to cover for one guy

948
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 1: who's not doing it the way you know what I mean,

949
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:18,240
Speaker 1: So no doubt. Yeah, so it's a it's a slippery slope,

950
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 1: but I get your point, and not to get two

951
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:24,959
Speaker 1: hung up on this team. You're right. In the NFC game,

952
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:27,359
Speaker 1: John Hussy the referee, I believe he had three other

953
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:29,879
Speaker 1: guys from his crew working with him, so at least

954
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 1: there was some familiarity there. The AFC game Ron Tourboard,

955
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:36,359
Speaker 1: there were eight officials, including the replay guy, coming from

956
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 1: seven different crews last night, so everyone is from a

957
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 1: different crew. They maybe have worked with each other in

958
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 1: the past, but that was really just a mishmash collection

959
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 1: of officials. And this was strange something I found too.

960
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 1: There was so Ron Tourboart was the nighttime official and

961
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 1: John Hussey was the daytime official. There was a member

962
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 1: of Turbot's crew working, but in the NFC game for Husty,

963
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 1: they didn't even put him on Torbert's crew, and I'd

964
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: love to know how they came up with that. So,

965
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 1: you know, one solution I saw two might be you

966
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:08,359
Speaker 1: have all the right now. They're very inclusive. They had,

967
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 1: I believe, twelve different crews officiating these twelve different games

968
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 1: so far, and instead they should just have all the

969
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:18,800
Speaker 1: best cruise work the wildcard games, then those best cruise

970
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 1: worked the divisional games, then those best cruise worked the

971
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 1: Conference championships. So at least if you have an all

972
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 1: star crew, you're getting three or four games into the playoffs,

973
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 1: and you don't have a situation where these guys this

974
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 1: was their first time working together in this game yesterday

975
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 1: in the conference championships. So I just and again, the

976
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 1: NFL can't just snap their fingers and change it. They

977
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 1: need to collectively bargain it. So it's a it's a

978
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 1: whole big issue right now, but I do think it

979
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 1: bears monitoring and they need to make some sort of

980
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 1: fix to it. I know you also had a column

981
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 1: on your analysis of the performances by the respective teams

982
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 1: in the two games yesterday, and you know, we saw

983
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:59,720
Speaker 1: injuries kind of add up, you know, to an outcome

984
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 1: that was just insurmountable for the forty nine ers. The Chiefs, though,

985
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 1: had almost the same number of injuries, granted not at

986
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: the most important position two times over, but Juju Smith,

987
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: Schuster goes out, McCole, Hardman goes out. I think there

988
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 1: was another injury. They lost somebody, and Mahomes just keeps

989
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 1: on being Mahomes with a bad leg to boot because

990
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 1: we saw he wasn't driving the ball as he normally does,

991
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 1: and yet still he's making plays and fire and passes

992
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 1: through cracks in the secondary. I don't know if you

993
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 1: could make a bigger statement about having MVP status than

994
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 1: Mahomes did yesterday with what he was able to muster up. Yeah,

995
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 1: Mahomes is probably going to win that award this year

996
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 1: that the votes were already tabulated before the playoffs started,

997
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 1: but he certainly I think cemented his MVP status last night.

998
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 1: What a warrior performance on that high ankle sprain. A

999
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 1: lot of quarterbacks, you know, not only wouldn't be able

1000
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 1: to move around that well, you know, he had to

1001
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 1: completely change his game. He's a guy who loves to

1002
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 1: get outside the pocket and create. He had to really

1003
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 1: stay inside the pocket last night, and a lot of

1004
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 1: quarterbacks can't function went asked to do that. He still

1005
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 1: has such a live arm and is so talented and

1006
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 1: has such great skill players around him and offensive play

1007
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 1: calling that he was unbelievable. And then still, as we're seeing,

1008
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 1: still was able to get outside the pocket, makes some

1009
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 1: of those razzle dazzle plays that scramble at the end

1010
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 1: on third and fourth just refused to be denied. This

1011
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 1: was you know, I know Tony Romo. It was a

1012
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 1: little ham handed. He tried to make a comment about

1013
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 1: Mahomes and Michael Jordan and Clyde Drexler. I mean, I

1014
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 1: get he was saying. This was this was like Mahomes

1015
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 1: flu game for Michael Jordan. This was an all time

1016
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 1: tough performance gutting it out on this ankle. He's now

1017
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 1: got two weeks to get healthy again for the Super Bowl,

1018
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 1: so I'm definitely not counting out Patrick Mahomes, but unbelievable performance.

1019
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 1: Not many guys could do what he did. And he's

1020
00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 1: just so talented and has such a strong arm that

1021
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 1: he can be a totally different quarterback like he had

1022
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 1: to be last night, and he can still be very

1023
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 1: operational and lead his team to victories. It was just

1024
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 1: such a gutsy, gutsy performance from Mahomes and you can't

1025
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 1: have anything but the utmost respect for him now. And

1026
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 1: it's the same thing on the other side. Joe Burrow

1027
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:19,959
Speaker 1: put up a heroic effort and on a tough skin

1028
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 1: and a tough a waste stadium to play, although Cincinnati

1029
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 1: might have, you know, made it as tough as they

1030
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 1: wanted to on themselves because of the stuff that they

1031
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 1: said before the game happened, and we're seeing the highlight

1032
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 1: of the Patrick Mahomes unnecessary roughness called on the sideline.

1033
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 1: What did you make of the Bengals walking into Arrowhead

1034
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 1: Stadium calling a Burrowhead stadium where the mayor is asking

1035
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 1: for a paternity test because Burrows Mahomes dead. I mean,

1036
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 1: they were like they were holding back at all. It

1037
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 1: was as though bulletin board material was a new thing

1038
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 1: for them. Yeah, they got a little caught up in

1039
00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 1: their bridges a little bit, you know, guy out a

1040
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 1: little big in the heads, but it it worked well

1041
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 1: for them. They were talking smack a lot leading up

1042
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 1: to the Bills game, I thought, and they kind of

1043
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 1: backed it up that day. And I think when you

1044
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 1: go into Buffalo and have a pretty dominant win and

1045
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:14,919
Speaker 1: you overcame twenty one three and Arrowhead last year, you're

1046
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 1: not going to back down to anyone. And I honestly

1047
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 1: don't think that's the reason they lost. I mean, if

1048
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:23,439
Speaker 1: Joseph Aside doesn't make that push out of bounds, who

1049
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 1: knows how the game is ending. And give the Bengals,

1050
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 1: I think a lot of credit. They went down big early.

1051
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 1: They gained zero yards in the first quarter, Joe Burrows

1052
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 1: getting sacked left and right, and they made some great

1053
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 1: adjustments on offense. All of a sudden early in the

1054
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 1: third quarter, Burrows got over two hundred yards. They figured

1055
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 1: out the Chiefs defense, He's protected, he's got time. That

1056
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 1: fourth down pass the Jamar Chase, My goodness, what a risky,

1057
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 1: just guts he play by Joe Burrow and the Bengals

1058
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 1: there they were, you know, this close to pulling it

1059
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 1: off again and just you know, had a few too

1060
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 1: many mistakes down the end, their own self inflicted mistakes.

1061
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 1: Of course, that interception by Burrow on third and short.

1062
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 1: They're gonna be rethinking that one. Should they have just

1063
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 1: gone for the first down instead of for the big shot.

1064
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:12,919
Speaker 1: And then obviously the officiating didn't help them either. But

1065
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 1: no shame in this loss for the Bengals. They were

1066
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 1: They played their hearts out, Joe Burrow played like a champion.

1067
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 1: They're gonna be back. Yeah, they probably regret saying some

1068
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 1: of the things they did, but that was what propelled

1069
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 1: them to this stage in the first place, is being

1070
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 1: confident and being able to back it up. And I

1071
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 1: honestly don't think that any of that stuff factor too

1072
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 1: heavily in the loss yesterday. I think you just have

1073
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 1: to give the Chiefs a lot of credit for pulling

1074
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 1: it out. And as competitive as that game was, whoever

1075
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 1: came out of that game, the task was going to

1076
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 1: be daunting anyway, going against an Eagles team that might

1077
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 1: be the only one in football that can say they

1078
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 1: have a top five offensive line in a top five

1079
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 1: defensive line in the entire league. And really that is,

1080
01:01:55,760 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 1: at least in my opinion, what has unquestionably separated them

1081
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 1: from the rest of the league this year, going wire

1082
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 1: to wire with the best record in football. I mean,

1083
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 1: I understand the aj Brown trade was crucial to their

1084
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 1: success this year, but I don't know, call me old school.

1085
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 1: I think what they did with their offensive and defensive

1086
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 1: lines has served that team even more than that trade.

1087
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 1: In particular, I believe you know, Sean McDermott said it

1088
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 1: after the loss, that the game has won and lost

1089
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 1: in the trenches and the Eagles they dominate. Their offensive

1090
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 1: line is fantastic, and the defensive line seventy sacks in

1091
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 1: the regular season, third most of all time. Hassan Reddick.

1092
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:42,480
Speaker 1: The free agent signing has been unbelievable. This year, you know,

1093
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 1: and once again on Sunday against the Niners wreaking havocs.

1094
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 1: So yeah, the Eagles are definitely a very complete team

1095
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 1: on both sides. Eagles and Chiefs great XS and O's

1096
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 1: matchup should be a really exciting game. That said, I

1097
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 1: was not overly impressed with the Eagles yesterday. Maybe some

1098
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 1: that does have to You have to credit the Niners,

1099
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 1: who have the number one defense in the NFL, and

1100
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 1: their defense is outstanding. But the Eagles, it actually took

1101
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 1: them a little while to kind of pull away, and

1102
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:13,960
Speaker 1: they did waste a lot of opportunities, and they were

1103
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 1: very stubborn with the run game. I counted it out.

1104
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 1: They had forty two runs without kneel downs yesterday. Four

1105
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 1: of them went for fifty four yards, so they hit

1106
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 1: a couple. Then they had thirty eight runs for like

1107
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 1: ninety six yards, just ramming into a brick wall over

1108
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 1: and over. And that's not going to work against the Chiefs.

1109
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 1: You better come out throwing. You can't run the ball

1110
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 1: thirty eight times and not be effective at it against

1111
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 1: the Chiefs and beat Patrick Mahomes. So I just you know,

1112
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 1: the Eagles pumped through was shaky you know, they wasted

1113
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 1: some turnovers, It took them a little while Christian McCaffrey

1114
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 1: was running through their their secondary for a stretch, and

1115
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 1: then obviously the Niners just ran out of gas because

1116
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 1: they didn't have a functional quarterback. But to me, I

1117
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 1: think the Eagles have a few more question marks right

1118
01:03:57,280 --> 01:04:00,920
Speaker 1: now than the Chiefs do. The Chiefs fence was just

1119
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:04,880
Speaker 1: so highly operational, so efficient during the regular season. Mahomes

1120
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 1: has two weeks to get healthy now. And like I said,

1121
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 1: the Eagles great win, but it should have been a

1122
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 1: little bit easier for them yesterday. So I do have

1123
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 1: some question marks against the Eagles going into that Super Bowl. Well,

1124
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 1: at this time of year, it's it's only human nature

1125
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:20,520
Speaker 1: that all the other fans of alve thirty one or

1126
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:23,600
Speaker 1: thirty two, other thirty other teams in the NFL look

1127
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 1: at those games yesterday, the twenty eight other teams, and

1128
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:29,520
Speaker 1: they kind of compare their team to where they would

1129
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 1: be to get to the championship level. The Bills missed

1130
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 1: it by a game, did not look good against the

1131
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 1: Bengals at home. What are your thoughts about the Bills,

1132
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 1: what steps they need to take, how they got to

1133
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 1: where they are and going forward? What are your thoughts

1134
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:46,479
Speaker 1: now and in relation to the games we saw yesterday. Well,

1135
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 1: first of all, whenever you have Josh Allen, your windows open.

1136
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:51,560
Speaker 1: So they're gonna be a competitive team. They're going to

1137
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 1: be I think the favorites in the AFC East, you know,

1138
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 1: for several years now going forward. That said, I do

1139
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 1: think this was a team that played down to its

1140
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 1: talent a little bit this year, except when they played

1141
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 1: New England. They certainly had no problems with the Patriots,

1142
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 1: but you know, in the playoffs they struggled against the

1143
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 1: third string quarterback of the Dolphins and then obviously got

1144
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 1: manhandled on both sides of the ball at the line

1145
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 1: of scrimmage against the Bengals. I see some changes coming defensively.

1146
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 1: There's some rumblings that it could be with the coaching staff,

1147
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:26,480
Speaker 1: perhaps with the coordinator. Certainly some of the personnel. The

1148
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:28,960
Speaker 1: safeties are starting to get older on the wrong side

1149
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 1: of thirty. I think the Bills have some retooling to

1150
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 1: do on defense a little bit, and then they have

1151
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 1: to get another weapon for Josh Allen to go along

1152
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:42,840
Speaker 1: with Stefan Diggs. I like Dawson Knox, I like Gabriel Davis,

1153
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 1: but they probably I don't know if those guys are

1154
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:48,120
Speaker 1: a number two right now. And I thought Brandon Bean's

1155
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 1: comments rang a little hollow when he said we don't

1156
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 1: want to suck his bad to go get Jamar Chase. Well,

1157
01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 1: I believe they had to pick that eventually turned into

1158
01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson. And obviously there are a lot of talented

1159
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 1: receive that have come out in the second third round

1160
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 1: the last several years, and the Bills haven't taken a

1161
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 1: pick I think higher than the fifth round in a

1162
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 1: long time. So I think they need to go out

1163
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 1: and get some more weapons for Josh Allen, make it

1164
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 1: so that he doesn't have to play so much hero ball,

1165
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 1: in that he doesn't have to rely so heavily on

1166
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:19,960
Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs. Obviously, the Bills are going to be there,

1167
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 1: but I think they're definitely behind the Chiefs and the

1168
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 1: Bengals right now, and that's obviously not where they want

1169
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:29,320
Speaker 1: to be. And in the division closer to your home.

1170
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 1: You know, the Patriots have a new OC and Bill

1171
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 1: O'Brien a new old OC. I guess you could say,

1172
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 1: is the hope there that he can turn Mac Jones

1173
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 1: into more of what we saw from rookie mac Jones

1174
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:46,439
Speaker 1: than year two mac Jones, No question. I think it's

1175
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 1: just about having a more professional unit there. I mean,

1176
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 1: Matt Patricia and Joe Judge had never done it before,

1177
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 1: and so I think this was kind of an ownership call.

1178
01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 1: We've seen some steps from the Crafts this offseason that

1179
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:03,800
Speaker 1: we haven't seen before, as far as announcing they're gonna

1180
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:05,800
Speaker 1: be hiring an offensive coordinator, and they said they were

1181
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 1: going to be examining all assets, all facets of the

1182
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:11,919
Speaker 1: football operation. So it seems like the ownership is getting

1183
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:13,880
Speaker 1: a little more involved now, and so they brought him

1184
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien. He's been a quarterbacks coach and an offensive coordinator.

1185
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:20,080
Speaker 1: You know, we'll see I don't know. I mean, this

1186
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:23,320
Speaker 1: is a guy who I think has been a solid coach,

1187
01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:25,960
Speaker 1: but has basically coached to his talent level. When he

1188
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 1: had Tom Brady and Deshaun Watson, he won games and

1189
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:32,440
Speaker 1: the offense was good. When he had lesser quarterbacks, he

1190
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:35,000
Speaker 1: didn't have a history of getting the most out of

1191
01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:37,880
Speaker 1: everyone or getting more out of the personnel than what

1192
01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:41,040
Speaker 1: is out there. They had some lean years in Houston too,

1193
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:43,720
Speaker 1: so we'll see if he's able to fix Mac Jones

1194
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 1: or if Mac is what he was this second season.

1195
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:50,240
Speaker 1: I tend to think, you know, the coaching was an

1196
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 1: easy scapegoat this year, and that a lot of these

1197
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 1: problems did stem from Mac Jones and his inability to

1198
01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 1: really progress forward. But there was obviously issues with Mac

1199
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 1: and the coaching staff. There's no need to move on

1200
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:03,800
Speaker 1: from Mac now, he's only two years into his rookie contract,

1201
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 1: so I think they're hoping that with Bill O'Brien it'll

1202
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 1: be a little bit of a better mix. And then

1203
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:10,800
Speaker 1: one thing I'm looking for is just the volatility. This

1204
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:13,920
Speaker 1: whole season Mac Jones was. We saw him screaming at

1205
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 1: his coaches and going nuts on the field and showing

1206
01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:19,240
Speaker 1: up Matt Patricia. And now he's being coached by Bill O'Brien,

1207
01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 1: who has a well known temper and certainly has gotten

1208
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:24,600
Speaker 1: into it with many people before as well. So that

1209
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 1: will be an interesting dynamic. How do Mac Jones and

1210
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:29,720
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien co exist together? What do you think are

1211
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 1: some of the other issues. Obviously, if your quarterback in

1212
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:35,160
Speaker 1: your offensive coordinator aren't getting along or don't see eye

1213
01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 1: to eye on it, that's one thing. What about the

1214
01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:41,639
Speaker 1: talent level of and you know they drafted Cole Strange

1215
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:44,560
Speaker 1: in the first round last year. What are some of

1216
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:46,760
Speaker 1: the other issues that may face the Patriots that they

1217
01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:49,679
Speaker 1: have to overcome outside of mac Jones and whoever's getting

1218
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:53,519
Speaker 1: the most out of him. Yeah, I think it's definitely

1219
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 1: a chicken in an egg situation of did mac Jones

1220
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:00,960
Speaker 1: are the struggles on mac Owes or because they don't

1221
01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:02,880
Speaker 1: have enough talent around him? And I thought they had

1222
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:06,880
Speaker 1: decent talent, but definitely not a true number one no

1223
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 1: One to the level of Stefan Diggs. You know, DeVante

1224
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 1: Parker made some plays, but was in and out of

1225
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 1: the lineup. Hunter, Henry John U Smith are nice tight ends,

1226
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:18,479
Speaker 1: but neither of them are elite like Travis Kelsey or

1227
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:21,800
Speaker 1: anything of that nature. They don't have many receivers that

1228
01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:24,000
Speaker 1: can win one on one at the line of scrimmage.

1229
01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 1: Jacobe Meyers, a nice possession receiver, doesn't really put fear

1230
01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:30,599
Speaker 1: into any defense. So they just need elite talent. And

1231
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:32,439
Speaker 1: that's why I was so disappointed that they picked a

1232
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 1: guard in the first round last year. They needed a

1233
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 1: game changer a receiver, and guard is about the least

1234
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:41,720
Speaker 1: game changing position on the field, and it worked out

1235
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 1: that way. They they didn't have the elite talent, and

1236
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:46,960
Speaker 1: you know, you see it like with teams like Miami.

1237
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:50,559
Speaker 1: I don't think Twa Tagovlo is necessarily an elite quarterback either,

1238
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:53,640
Speaker 1: but you put Jalen Waddle and Tyrek Hill around him

1239
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:55,559
Speaker 1: in the offense is much better. I think Mac Jones

1240
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 1: is a guy he needs everything perfect around him. He

1241
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:01,519
Speaker 1: needs great offensive line, pretend action, and really top notch

1242
01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 1: talent around him, and then great coaching as well, and

1243
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:08,000
Speaker 1: then I think the Patriots can be successful. So this

1244
01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:10,040
Speaker 1: will be a big third year for Mac, and I

1245
01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:12,120
Speaker 1: think the Patriots this offseason need to find a way

1246
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:14,840
Speaker 1: to get at least one or two more improvements at

1247
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:17,240
Speaker 1: wide receiver and tight end around him. All right, last

1248
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 1: one from me been handicap the Lamar Jackson situation for

1249
01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:24,440
Speaker 1: me in terms of whether he is back in Baltimore

1250
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:27,320
Speaker 1: or if he lands somewhere else. And then part two

1251
01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 1: of that is, what are the likelihood of the Jets

1252
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:33,880
Speaker 1: jumping into the sweepstakes if things don't work out in Baltimore?

1253
01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:37,280
Speaker 1: Great question. My only guarantee is that we're gonna hear

1254
01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 1: a lot about this over the next six months. It's

1255
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:42,280
Speaker 1: just going to dominate the off season. My gut says

1256
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:46,080
Speaker 1: the Ravens give Lamar Jackson the exclusive franchise tag, which

1257
01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:48,559
Speaker 1: completely takes him off the market. He can't talk to

1258
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:52,479
Speaker 1: any other teams. The non exclusive tag is cheaper, but

1259
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:55,160
Speaker 1: you only get two first round picks in return to

1260
01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:57,400
Speaker 1: Shaun Watson is going for three. I think the Ravens

1261
01:10:57,400 --> 01:11:00,160
Speaker 1: would be nuts to lose Lamar Jackson for only two

1262
01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:02,880
Speaker 1: first round picks, so I think they give the exclusive tag.

1263
01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 1: It's worth forty five million dollars this year, and I

1264
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:07,960
Speaker 1: think they have every intention to keep him. So my

1265
01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 1: prediction is they do not want to trade him. They

1266
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 1: want to keep Lamar jack They want to work toward

1267
01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:15,000
Speaker 1: a deal, and frankly, I wouldn't be surprised to see

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson not sign his franchise tag and kind of

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01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:20,920
Speaker 1: hold out. It's not really a holdout since you're not

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01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:23,479
Speaker 1: signing the contract, but hold out of camp and make

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01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:25,479
Speaker 1: a deal a big deal out of it, because he

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01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:28,360
Speaker 1: certainly doesn't want to get hurt and he's got a

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01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:30,120
Speaker 1: lot at Risks still, so I think it's just gonna

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01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:32,080
Speaker 1: be long and drawn out, and I would not be

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01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:35,480
Speaker 1: surprised to see it last into training camp and potentially

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01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:37,640
Speaker 1: get right up against the deadline to the start of

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Speaker 1: the regular season. All right, so quickly did you see

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01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:43,760
Speaker 1: the Greg Roman departure, whether it was mutual or otherwise,

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01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:47,680
Speaker 1: as an olive branch to Lamar Jackson or telling him, Hey,

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01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:49,679
Speaker 1: we're gonna change some things so you can be better.

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01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:51,760
Speaker 1: But how did you view that? Did you think there

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01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:54,439
Speaker 1: was any ulterior motive in that as it pertained to Lamar.

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01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 1: I do think it's an olive branch to Lamar Jackson.

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01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:01,679
Speaker 1: You've heard rumblings at the relationship between him and Roman

1285
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:05,920
Speaker 1: wasn't always perfect, and especially the wide receivers on that

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01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:08,680
Speaker 1: team didn't love. You heard that they didn't love the

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01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:11,040
Speaker 1: fact that they were kind of phased out in favor

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01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:14,080
Speaker 1: of running backs and tight ends. So I think this

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01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:16,559
Speaker 1: might just be a nod towards the Lamar Jackson, but

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01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:18,479
Speaker 1: also other guys in the locker room too, that we're

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01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:20,760
Speaker 1: willing to change things up for you, you you know, the

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01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:23,639
Speaker 1: fact that you go back, and I think the Ravens

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01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 1: were pretty clearly upset that Lamar wasn't available for that

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01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:30,000
Speaker 1: playoff game. But then on the Monday or Tuesday afterward,

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01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:34,559
Speaker 1: John Harbaugh and GM Eric da Costa were effusive and

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01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:37,760
Speaker 1: their praise of Lamar Jackson over the top, saying how

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01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:39,479
Speaker 1: much they love him and believe in him, and he

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01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:42,320
Speaker 1: was this close to playing, And part of me thinks

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01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:44,320
Speaker 1: they're just kind of buttering everyone up to get ready

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01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:46,760
Speaker 1: to trade him, and maybe that's the case, but I

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01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:49,880
Speaker 1: do genuinely think they want to build around Lamar Jackson.

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01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:52,439
Speaker 1: They just they're very far apart on what the contract

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01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 1: should be. Lamar wants the Deshaun Watson contract, and thirty

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01:12:57,000 --> 01:13:00,559
Speaker 1: one other NFL teams are adamant on making that just

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01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:03,080
Speaker 1: an anomaly kind of contract and not letting that be

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01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:07,439
Speaker 1: a trend setter. So I think unless Lamar Jackson's willing

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01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:10,280
Speaker 1: to come off that demand, him and the Ravens are

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01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:12,960
Speaker 1: gonna be budding heads for a while. Ben. Thanks, it's

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01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 1: great talking to you. Appreciate you spending some time with us.

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01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:18,160
Speaker 1: All right, thanks so much, guys. All right, that is

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01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:22,080
Speaker 1: senior NFL writer for the Boston Globe, Ben Villin joining us,

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01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:25,360
Speaker 1: And yeah, I think he's right. We're gonna be talking

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01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:28,479
Speaker 1: Lamar a lot through the course of the offseason. Leave

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01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:30,439
Speaker 1: it to the Browns to screw it up for everybody

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01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 1: else with like fully guaranteed contract for a guy who's

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01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:37,760
Speaker 1: got off the field transgressions, because now it's completely set

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01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:40,680
Speaker 1: a precedent where now all these other quarterbacks who have

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01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:43,960
Speaker 1: done a whole lot more than Deshaun Watson has done

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01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:47,360
Speaker 1: on the field the last two years, saying, whoa that guy?

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01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:49,840
Speaker 1: That guy's got a fully guaranteed deal and he still

1321
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:52,679
Speaker 1: might be in trouble with the law. What am I get?

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01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:55,880
Speaker 1: I've been a model citizen over here in Baltimore, you know,

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01:13:56,800 --> 01:14:00,160
Speaker 1: got an MVP. Yeah, and you know, I know I

1324
01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:02,280
Speaker 1: haven't been the picture of health the last couple of years,

1325
01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:05,160
Speaker 1: but I'm still one of the best eight quarterbacks in football.

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01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:07,160
Speaker 1: What are you gonna do for me? Yeah, it's right,

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01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:10,280
Speaker 1: He's right, he's I mean, he's got a leg to stand,

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01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:13,400
Speaker 1: he's got a point. But I'll say this too the club.

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01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:17,200
Speaker 1: There's a lot of people out there that say Baltimore

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01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:19,280
Speaker 1: hasn't done given him enough weapons. They haven't. Let me

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01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:23,120
Speaker 1: tell you something that's good. Football coaches give your players

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01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:25,840
Speaker 1: what they need to do their best work with the

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01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:30,320
Speaker 1: skill set they have, and that's what Baltimore did. You

1334
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:32,639
Speaker 1: can say, well they didn't drop the first round wide receiver.

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01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:34,960
Speaker 1: No they didn't. In fact, it's hard to even get

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01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:37,559
Speaker 1: free agent wide receivers to sign in Baltimore because they

1337
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:40,479
Speaker 1: know the passing game. I'm gonna be blocking a lot

1338
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:44,320
Speaker 1: is Yeah, they're run blocking, and nobody wants to play

1339
01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:47,679
Speaker 1: in that offense as a wide receiver. They got Sammy

1340
01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:52,200
Speaker 1: Watkins on who's on his what fifth team, fourth team,

1341
01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:57,040
Speaker 1: who's a great talent. But yeah, I mean they're not.

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01:14:57,240 --> 01:14:59,600
Speaker 1: They're they're having a hard time finding gout. Now they

1343
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:01,639
Speaker 1: could d half one. Yeah, okay, but well they did

1344
01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 1: with Rashad bat Would he get hurt run blocking? He

1345
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:11,639
Speaker 1: got hurt, So anyway, it did. The Baltimore Ravens built

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01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:16,439
Speaker 1: their entire franchise around Lamar Jackson as well as the scheme. Don't, yeah,

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01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:18,760
Speaker 1: the scheme particular, don't. I mean I don't. I don't

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01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:20,720
Speaker 1: want to. I don't really have any time to listen

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01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:22,800
Speaker 1: to people who say they are doing enough. They've done

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01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:25,040
Speaker 1: more than any They would have done as much as

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01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 1: any other team in the league to give a quarterback

1352
01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:33,040
Speaker 1: what he needs to with his skill set to succeed. Now,

1353
01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:35,400
Speaker 1: if he wants to start expanding and start doing this stuff,

1354
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:38,800
Speaker 1: he's got to show a proficiency at it. Yeah, I

1355
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:43,439
Speaker 1: just get the sense with the departure of Roman, much

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01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:45,880
Speaker 1: to what Ben was saying, there are guys in that

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01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:48,400
Speaker 1: locker room that are tired of this scheme and think

1358
01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:50,559
Speaker 1: they can only go so far with it. And I

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01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:52,960
Speaker 1: think Lamar I agree with him, And I think Lamar,

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01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:56,160
Speaker 1: right or wrong, believes he could be a more proficient

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01:15:56,360 --> 01:16:00,720
Speaker 1: passer in a more advanced passing attack than the one

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01:16:00,760 --> 01:16:03,960
Speaker 1: he's been stuck in since he came into the league. Now,

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01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:07,800
Speaker 1: he might not be right about that. He may be right,

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01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:11,400
Speaker 1: he may be. It's not asking a lot, no, and

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01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:13,240
Speaker 1: the bar is low for him to be a better

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01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:16,519
Speaker 1: passer in another scheme. How hard is it to have

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01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:19,720
Speaker 1: another scheme that where Lamar Jackson could be a successful

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01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:22,599
Speaker 1: thrower and then have the same running attack. It's clearly

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01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:24,840
Speaker 1: not a big ask because they wouldn't have made the

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01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:27,639
Speaker 1: change if they didn't think it was possible. So they're

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01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:29,479
Speaker 1: gonna at least entertain it in an effort to keep

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01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:33,040
Speaker 1: them under contract. We will bend to your demands, so

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01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:36,080
Speaker 1: you stay here and don't go elsewhere. That's really what

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01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:39,000
Speaker 1: the Ravens are doing by saying goodbye to Greg Roman.

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01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:40,760
Speaker 1: So we'll have to see how it all pans out

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01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 1: if in fact he is still there. It is one

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01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:47,960
Speaker 1: of the biggest offseason storylines that there will be in

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01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:50,000
Speaker 1: the league this year. We have to take a break

1379
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:54,120
Speaker 1: here when we come back, more on that subject matter

1380
01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:56,880
Speaker 1: and a little NFL true false. Haven't done that in

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01:16:56,920 --> 01:16:58,559
Speaker 1: a while. That's coming your way next here on One

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01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:00,679
Speaker 1: Bill's Live presented by Kalid to hell if it's Buffalo

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01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:10,320
Speaker 1: Bills Radio. All right, welcome back to One Bills Live.

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01:17:10,439 --> 01:17:12,920
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you. It is time for

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01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:15,720
Speaker 1: us to play a little NFL true falls, something we

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01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:17,360
Speaker 1: haven't done in a while. We do more of it

1387
01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:22,839
Speaker 1: in the offseason, presented by Patron Tequila, the official tequila

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01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:28,240
Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills, and we begin Steve with the

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01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:37,000
Speaker 1: Broncos quarterback. Okay, okay, Broncos quarterback Russell Wilson's issues are

1390
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:42,280
Speaker 1: fixable true or false? That's true. The issues he had

1391
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:47,719
Speaker 1: in Denver this year would mean that he absolutely forgot

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01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:52,920
Speaker 1: how to play quarterback and you know, like parachuted in

1393
01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:58,400
Speaker 1: having never played before. It was crazy. So yeah, it's fixable.

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01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:02,000
Speaker 1: I thought it was a disaster in Denver, starting from

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01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:06,400
Speaker 1: the head coach and his philosophy all the way down.

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01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:10,400
Speaker 1: I get it. In Seattle, he had a coaching staff

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01:18:10,439 --> 01:18:14,639
Speaker 1: that was well entrenched, knew what they were doing, had

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01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:20,360
Speaker 1: a system in place to be versatile enough to let

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01:18:20,439 --> 01:18:23,400
Speaker 1: players with different skill sets play well at their positions,

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01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:26,920
Speaker 1: including the quarterback. In Denver that was not in place yet.

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01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:29,200
Speaker 1: A one year head coach yet, a guy trying to

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01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:33,320
Speaker 1: run his system and didn't really realize or didn't make

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01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:37,000
Speaker 1: the adjustment to a guy who had Russ Wilson's specific

1404
01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:39,920
Speaker 1: skill set. Coaching staff didn't adapt to him at all,

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01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:43,559
Speaker 1: and that's a huge mistake. You got to Coaches need

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01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:46,920
Speaker 1: to coach the players they have. They're not coaching a system,

1407
01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:49,799
Speaker 1: they're not coaching Zex's and knows. They're coaching human beings.

1408
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:52,720
Speaker 1: And if a guy does stuff really well, it's you

1409
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:55,840
Speaker 1: your responsibility to give more of that to him than

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01:18:55,880 --> 01:18:58,040
Speaker 1: the Broncos were given to Russ Wilson. So yeah, Russ

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01:18:58,040 --> 01:19:00,600
Speaker 1: Wilson can play a lot better than he did for

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01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:03,439
Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos this last year. And I think you

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01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:06,000
Speaker 1: can fix that. I think it's fixable too, So I

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01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:10,040
Speaker 1: would say true. The prevailing opinion out in Denver was

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01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:14,360
Speaker 1: Hackett system, which is timing based, you know, backfoot in

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01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:16,640
Speaker 1: the ground on a three step drop, bang, fire the

1417
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:20,080
Speaker 1: ball out. That is not what Russell Wilson has done

1418
01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:22,920
Speaker 1: for the balance of his career. He's kind of more

1419
01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:24,920
Speaker 1: like Mahomes and Alan. He likes to kind of hang

1420
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:26,519
Speaker 1: the ball, hang on to the ball a little bit

1421
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:30,320
Speaker 1: by some time, make plays down field, and that's just

1422
01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:33,640
Speaker 1: not what Hackett system does enough of. And so it

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01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:35,880
Speaker 1: was kind of like a square peg and around whole can. Yeah,

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01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:39,840
Speaker 1: it's it's always a mistake for coaches to come in

1425
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:43,639
Speaker 1: and say, I'm gonna bring my system into this offense

1426
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:46,120
Speaker 1: or this player, this team or this player. To me,

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01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:49,760
Speaker 1: it's I'm gonna coach this offensive team and here's what

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01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:52,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna do. He does that, well, okay, we're gonna

1429
01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:53,639
Speaker 1: let him do that. We're gonna get there, We're gonna

1430
01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:55,320
Speaker 1: ask this guy to do that. We're gonna design an

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01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:58,120
Speaker 1: offense around your players. That's what it needs to be

1432
01:19:58,160 --> 01:20:00,599
Speaker 1: at this point in history in the NFL. You're gonna

1433
01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:05,200
Speaker 1: install a system, that system better be comprehensive in its

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01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:08,160
Speaker 1: ability to tailor to players with different skill sets, including

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01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:11,519
Speaker 1: the guy taking snaps. It's that it's a difficult job,

1436
01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:14,360
Speaker 1: no question about it. It's complicated, a lot of group

1437
01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:16,920
Speaker 1: dynamics involved. How do you get you know, these guys

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01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:20,479
Speaker 1: mixed with that guy? Does a guy accept coaching? Is

1439
01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:23,240
Speaker 1: he gonna buy in? All of that stuff goes into

1440
01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:26,240
Speaker 1: the mix. But at this point in history in the NFL,

1441
01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:28,600
Speaker 1: that's what you gotta do. Your system has to be

1442
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:30,960
Speaker 1: built around your players in their skill set. Let your

1443
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:36,400
Speaker 1: players do what they do best. Anything else is substandard. Yeah,

1444
01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:40,960
Speaker 1: I would tend to agree. NFL true false number two

1445
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:44,760
Speaker 1: from one quarterback to another. Giants quarterback Daniel Jones has

1446
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 1: earned a contract extension with the team, true or false.

1447
01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:55,559
Speaker 1: Not a top flight extension. He's not gonna get elite

1448
01:20:55,600 --> 01:21:02,960
Speaker 1: quarterback money. No, I pay him for that position. I'd

1449
01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:06,559
Speaker 1: pay him twenty three not gonna happen. Twenty three to

1450
01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:09,960
Speaker 1: twenty eight million a year. You'd probably have to pay

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01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:12,840
Speaker 1: him somewhere between thirty five and forty. I think then

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01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:17,120
Speaker 1: I would say no, okay, And that depends too on

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01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:20,000
Speaker 1: what your other options are. But once again, we use

1454
01:21:20,120 --> 01:21:23,040
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray as our parometer here. He is getting forty

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01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:25,960
Speaker 1: six average annual value on his contract. You think that,

1456
01:21:26,160 --> 01:21:28,960
Speaker 1: You think Daniel Jones is probably a step below him

1457
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:32,400
Speaker 1: in terms of ability, but he is mobile like Murray.

1458
01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:35,960
Speaker 1: I would like to see their stats side by side.

1459
01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:38,880
Speaker 1: You think and Daniel Jones had a better one loss

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01:21:38,920 --> 01:21:42,559
Speaker 1: record than Kyler Murray this year. Nine six and one

1461
01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:45,000
Speaker 1: is a starter. You think that Cleveland Browns mess things

1462
01:21:45,080 --> 01:21:49,799
Speaker 1: up for people. The Arizona Cardinals did it too true,

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01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:56,000
Speaker 1: You're not wrong. You only had fifteen touchdown passes my

1464
01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:58,840
Speaker 1: past season. I don't think the sixteen game. I don't

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01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:02,519
Speaker 1: think the guy can play. Completed sixty seven percent of

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01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:08,320
Speaker 1: his passes, only had five picks. I don't think the

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01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:13,880
Speaker 1: guy can play. Yeah, I'm trying to see what his

1468
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:18,000
Speaker 1: yards per attempt were this season. Your whole lot to

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01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:20,360
Speaker 1: me with Kyler Murray, your whole offense has to be

1470
01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:23,200
Speaker 1: street ball. Just move him around, let guys go out

1471
01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:25,000
Speaker 1: and get open, holding off him as long as you

1472
01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:27,680
Speaker 1: can and go. We're talking about Danny Dimes here, so

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01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:31,400
Speaker 1: you would say no, I would say no. Um, I

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01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:35,439
Speaker 1: don't think he's earned a contract extension. The interesting thing

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Speaker 1: is GM. Joe Shane said he would welcome him back,

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Speaker 1: he just didn't say it. What Price wisely did not say. Um,

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Speaker 1: I think they would bring him back if they run

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01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:57,840
Speaker 1: into a scenario where they cannot do better, which you

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Speaker 1: know they're not there. They went to the playoffs. They're

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Speaker 1: not drafting high to draft one. You know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: All Right, who's better? Uh? Well, it depends who's available. Well,

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Speaker 1: let's say Derek carr Um, right, but that's going to

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Speaker 1: cost you something, Brock Purty, Jimmy Garoppolo than Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to pay him if he's if he's cheaper, Yeah,

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01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:34,720
Speaker 1: how much how much better has he got to be?

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Speaker 1: Or if he can just be the same and run

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01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:41,320
Speaker 1: your system? H And we're talking, We're talking about not

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Speaker 1: paying a guy who's not gonna earn fifty million bucks? Right,

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01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:48,719
Speaker 1: So you know, is a is a thirty eight million

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01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:52,760
Speaker 1: dollar Daniel Jones better than a twenty million dollars Jimmy Garoppolo?

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I mean I get it.

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Speaker 1: That's you know, that's where it starts to you know,

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01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:07,519
Speaker 1: be a massive gray area. I move on. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you want to do better than Daniel Jones, you do,

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01:24:11,360 --> 01:24:13,000
Speaker 1: but he did help you get you to the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: even though se Quon Barkley was the engine that made

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Speaker 1: the offense go. I don't think there's any debating that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they brock Purty played pretty good for the

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Speaker 1: San Francisco forty nine ers. I'm pretty sure if I'm

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Speaker 1: Brian Dayble, He'll say, you know, give me a guy

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Speaker 1: with some physical skills. I'll make him and you know

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01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:31,000
Speaker 1: we can get by with him. We'll teach him, right.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm saying, no, I he's You've got

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01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:43,840
Speaker 1: a long resume for Daniel Jones, certainly only one year

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01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:48,320
Speaker 1: under the current regime, but a long resume, and you've

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01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:50,040
Speaker 1: got to know what you've got there, and if you

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01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:52,000
Speaker 1: can do better, you gotta go. You gotta do it.

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01:24:52,439 --> 01:24:53,920
Speaker 1: You're not going to sign that guy who will to

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01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:56,720
Speaker 1: big time quarterback money, no way. Yeah, you would think.

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Speaker 1: No question is what is he willing to take? What

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Speaker 1: does he think his value is? Would he? Because to me,

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01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:08,080
Speaker 1: if you're the Giants and you want to keep him around,

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01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:10,639
Speaker 1: it's to be a bridge, right, a bridge to the

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01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:16,680
Speaker 1: future franchise guy, whoever that might be. You know, I

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01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:18,599
Speaker 1: just don't know if he's gonna be willing to accept

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01:25:18,640 --> 01:25:20,840
Speaker 1: a two year deal to be a bridge quarterback for

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01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:24,200
Speaker 1: fifteen million a year, whatever it is, you know what

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01:25:24,280 --> 01:25:27,799
Speaker 1: I mean? I just and will he be as effective

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01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:31,040
Speaker 1: next year as he was this year? Like, we'll take

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Speaker 1: you back until we can find somebody better. It's basically

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01:25:35,160 --> 01:25:38,160
Speaker 1: what they'd be telling him. Well, I mean, that's welcome

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01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:39,679
Speaker 1: to the NFL. I mean, that's the way it goes.

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01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:45,320
Speaker 1: But so there it is NFL true false number three

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Speaker 1: With the Jaguars making the playoffs, Doug Peterson should win

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01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:56,600
Speaker 1: Coach of the Year true or false. M He's going

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01:25:56,640 --> 01:26:01,280
Speaker 1: to be in the conversation. I'll say, balls in the conversation,

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01:26:02,040 --> 01:26:04,920
Speaker 1: day Balls in the conversation. Some would argue Sirianni should

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01:26:04,920 --> 01:26:10,960
Speaker 1: be in the conversation, Mike Kyle Shanahan basically doing it

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01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:16,280
Speaker 1: with no quarterbacks. I mean you could argue McDermott, what

1530
01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:20,240
Speaker 1: about Pete Carroll? Yeah? With Gino Yeah, I mean they

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01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:22,280
Speaker 1: were barely above five hundred. I don't know if that's

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Speaker 1: Coach of the year worthy. I think Peterson's probably right

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01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:31,360
Speaker 1: up there with day Ball because day Ball did it

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Speaker 1: with a mediocre roster, got his team to the playoffs

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Speaker 1: and won a playoff game. And Peterson it took a

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Speaker 1: team that's got more talent but was three and thirty

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Speaker 1: three and fourteen last year and won the division. I'll

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Speaker 1: say yeah, I'll say, Doug Peterson's got to be in

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Speaker 1: that conversation because you're right. Is he your pick? Though?

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01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:53,240
Speaker 1: Does he win coach? Should he win Coach of the

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01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:55,920
Speaker 1: year in your estimation? The Giants were only fourteen and

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Speaker 1: thirteen four and thirteen last year and Jacksonville was thirteen

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01:26:58,920 --> 01:27:05,080
Speaker 1: and four. Jacksonville won the division correct, Giants did not.

1544
01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:09,120
Speaker 1: They also play in the ANFC South though NFC East.

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01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:13,320
Speaker 1: Come on, man, well I get Philly, but yeah, Philly

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01:27:13,360 --> 01:27:19,479
Speaker 1: in Dallas last year. Philly was nine and eight. Yeah,

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01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:23,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna yeah, yeah, I would say Peterson deserves it.

1548
01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:25,920
Speaker 1: Yeah that was I wouldn't be upset if he wanted.

1549
01:27:25,960 --> 01:27:29,960
Speaker 1: So I'll say true, I like that, and so yeah,

1550
01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:35,599
Speaker 1: I'm and they won a playoff game. So, in spectacular fashion,

1551
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Speaker 1: that is NFL True False presented by Patrone Tequila, the

1552
01:27:40,080 --> 01:27:42,320
Speaker 1: official tequila the Buffalo Bills. We take a break and

1553
01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:44,240
Speaker 1: close things up next year. All one Bills live Stay

1554
01:27:44,280 --> 01:28:02,800
Speaker 1: tun all right, Steve. So, with the Chiefs going to

1555
01:28:02,840 --> 01:28:06,400
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, two of their Pro bowlers cannot participate

1556
01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:10,800
Speaker 1: in the Pro Bowl games, so replacing them are two

1557
01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:15,519
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. For left tackle Orlando Brown, Deon Dawkins goes

1558
01:28:15,560 --> 01:28:20,559
Speaker 1: to the Pro Bowl games, and with Travis Kelsey playing

1559
01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:24,760
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl, Dawson Knox replaces him at the

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01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:27,160
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl games. And then there was another player who

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01:28:27,240 --> 01:28:31,880
Speaker 1: was injured. Quentin Nelson of the Colts could not participate

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01:28:31,960 --> 01:28:39,880
Speaker 1: due to injury. He is being replaced by Roger Saffold thoughts, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm yeah, it's a volleyball game now, I mean it is.

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01:28:43,720 --> 01:28:47,360
Speaker 1: It's it's a meet and greet. So how does that

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01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:51,080
Speaker 1: nobody that gave you with having participated in seven of

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01:28:51,080 --> 01:28:54,719
Speaker 1: those when it was a game and guys did try hard? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean it was. Is it disappointing to

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01:28:57,160 --> 01:29:00,800
Speaker 1: see where it is now? No, it was badly predictable,

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01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:04,840
Speaker 1: particularly and it's also sadly predictable that what it's turned into,

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01:29:05,479 --> 01:29:11,800
Speaker 1: um when they started allowing fans to vote, it's it's

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01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:14,280
Speaker 1: now a meat it's now kind of a brand. It's

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01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:18,960
Speaker 1: not kind of a brand. Contest a market contest, you know,

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01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:21,000
Speaker 1: I mean New York players are always going to get

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01:29:21,040 --> 01:29:24,439
Speaker 1: more votes than players from Green Bay or wherever else.

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01:29:24,439 --> 01:29:29,360
Speaker 1: So um and the fact that the game doesn't matter

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01:29:29,479 --> 01:29:32,120
Speaker 1: and doesn't even exist anymore. That says it all. It

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01:29:32,120 --> 01:29:34,240
Speaker 1: says it all, you know. Yeah, it will be out

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01:29:34,280 --> 01:29:36,880
Speaker 1: in Las Vegas. Those guys will be participating. That's it

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Speaker 1: for us today, Steve and I'll see tomorrow. And one