Speaker 1: I Am all in again.
Speaker 2: Oh that's just you.
Speaker 1: I Am all in Town meeting with Suzanne French and
Speaker 1: Tara suit An iHeartRadio podcast. Hey guys, welcome back to
Speaker 1: another episode of I'm All in Town Meeting with myself,
Speaker 1: Tara and Suzanne.
Speaker 2: Hello.
Speaker 1: Hi, we are back and we are on season one,
Speaker 1: episode nine. Rory's Dance, which aired December twentieth, two thousand.
Speaker 1: I feel like this episode, I'm gonna keep saying it.
Speaker 1: It came up so soon. I was like, we're already here,
Speaker 1: I have a dance.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this was a great episode. I thought, this is
Speaker 2: it's said so much about all the different mother daughter
Speaker 2: relationships like Emily, Laurelai, Laurlai and Rory. Just a great
Speaker 2: episode all around.
Speaker 1: I thought it's funny my mom. Usually my mom's seen
Speaker 1: Gilmore Girls many times, but usually when I'm watching these
Speaker 1: for work, she doesn't really watch with me, but she
Speaker 1: watched with me last night and she was like, it's
Speaker 1: so funny because my mom was like reciting the lines.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I'm definitely your daughter, because like there
Speaker 1: was like little things where she's like she was off
Speaker 1: by a word, but she knew exactly, like Tristan and
Speaker 1: stuff like that, like we were all was like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, like, yeah, we watch it together. I will
Speaker 1: say this episode made me realize why I don't like Dean,
Speaker 1: and I feel so bad saying that because I love
Speaker 1: Jared Pedalaki and I feel like Dean has some great qualities.
Speaker 1: But the one thing that bothered me, and I guess
Speaker 1: we'll get into like the nitty gritties, but just overall,
Speaker 1: the one thing that bothered me was like you could
Speaker 1: tell Rory was wanted to go to the stands next site,
Speaker 1: and he just showed zero enthusiasm and kind of like,
Speaker 1: well fine, like I guess I'll have to wear a
Speaker 1: to or have to do this, and she's just being
Speaker 1: so like polite, and he was kind of like rumpy
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I noticed that too. I did think that Rory's
Speaker 2: awkwardness around Dean and trying to like ask him to
Speaker 2: go to the dance and then when they were in
Speaker 2: the car they're like should we go in? Should we
Speaker 2: not go in? I found her awkwardness a little annoying,
Speaker 2: and then combined with Dean being a negative nelly about
Speaker 2: the whole thing, I'm like, you know, these two are
Speaker 2: together are just annoying this.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's it. Maybe it's like because I kind of
Speaker 1: I think I've already accepted that Rory can be annoying,
Speaker 1: Like I like it more in the earlier seasons. But
Speaker 1: I feel like I just like appreciate and respect her
Speaker 1: a little bit more than Dean. And so then maybe
Speaker 1: that's it. Maybe it's like they bounce off this like
Speaker 1: weird energy from each other.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then it's gonna be repeated again when she
Speaker 2: has her coming out the debutante balls.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, yeah, like gets.
Speaker 2: All whiny about having to wear a text Like, I mean,
Speaker 2: I get like a teenage boy isn't super excited about
Speaker 2: wearing a texedo. But yeah, but for a couple hours
Speaker 2: and do something nice with your girlfriend.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which, speaking of to get into the nitty gritties,
Speaker 1: I was looking at the outfits at this dance. This
Speaker 1: was not like high school dance attire. Maybe it's private
Speaker 1: school Chilton dance tire, but I was like, they all
Speaker 1: seem like they were at a debutante with the way
Speaker 1: they were dressed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the styles have definitely changed. So having you know,
Speaker 2: kids that age myself, I see like all my friends
Speaker 2: are posting their kids like homecoming pictures and things like that,
Speaker 2: and the styles are definitely different than they were twin.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely the hair like like what I can't remember
Speaker 1: off top of my head, but her hair was it
Speaker 1: like one of those like headbands or was it like
Speaker 1: little on each you know what I'm talking about. How
Speaker 1: you can like the headbands that pulled back or it
Speaker 1: was like little beaded like each piece of hair was
Speaker 1: like pulled back.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I didn't think she was wearing a headband. I
Speaker 2: thought it was like I have to go back.
Speaker 1: Or like little like clips, like not betterfly clips, but
Speaker 1: that style, yeah, which I did, like, I did like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I love the outfit. Laurel I did a great job.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought she did. She did a good job too,
Speaker 2: And I liked kind of as usual jumping all over
Speaker 2: the place. But I loved that Emily acknowledged that because
Speaker 2: at first she was like, oh my gosh, don't make
Speaker 2: her a dress. You know her typical you know, kind
Speaker 2: of being mad at Laurel I for just her existence.
Speaker 2: But yeah, then she's like, you did a really good job,
Speaker 2: like when Laura told her she made the dress. You know,
Speaker 2: Emily had been fooled. She said, I'm glad that you
Speaker 2: bought her a dress, and then yeah, yeah, Laura I
Speaker 2: says I made the dress. And so that was a
Speaker 2: nice moment where she Emily actually paid her a compliment.
Speaker 1: It's the first I mean, obviously, I know we've seen
Speaker 1: the series, but at the first time in the season,
Speaker 1: in season one that like Emily showed some sympathy and
Speaker 1: kindness towards Laura Lai. Yeah, and obviously at the end
Speaker 1: that just all went out the window, but we got
Speaker 1: a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she definitely that's her kind of her mo like
Speaker 2: she's as soon as she does something nice, than you know,
Speaker 2: a couple hours later she somehow ruins it by.
Speaker 1: Like one step forward and five steps.
Speaker 2: Back exactly exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was because there was a lot happening in
Speaker 1: the house. I was like looking around and no clown pillow, right,
Speaker 1: I did not.
Speaker 2: See the clown pillow, But the piano was still there.
Speaker 1: The piano was still there, and there was a little
Speaker 1: ballerina like the statue. So my one call out is
Speaker 1: Emily was looking for the Baccarat candles and she bought
Speaker 1: a monkey candle. Do you know how much those candlesticks are.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: I knew it was expensive, and I was like, I
Speaker 1: need a price point. I knew it was over five
Speaker 1: hundred dollars. It currently runs for seven hundred and fifty dollars. Now,
Speaker 1: I take it back because yeah, they're Bakarrock candlesticks. Take
Speaker 1: it back twenty five years ago. Let's say they were
Speaker 1: like four hundred. Nah, I don't know how much. Let's
Speaker 1: say they were five six hundred dollars. You're telling me
Speaker 1: she replaced five hundred dollars candle sticks for that monkey lamp.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope that there was some cash.
Speaker 1: Back on that, or did you buy like a full
Speaker 1: kitchen set. Like I literally was sitting there like doing
Speaker 1: the math, and I was like, all right, let's say
Speaker 1: it was like a two hundred dollar lamp. She still
Speaker 1: had three hundred dollars credit somewhere, and I was like,
Speaker 1: there's no way.
Speaker 2: I didn't even think about that. That's a good point, though.
Speaker 1: I literally was sitting there because the one I never
Speaker 1: caught that it was bok Rock candles, And I was like,
Speaker 1: because Bakrock perfume right now is very, very popular and
Speaker 1: there's like dupes of it. But I was like there's
Speaker 1: no way that she bought her bockrock candles and she
Speaker 1: got a monkey lamp. It was one of those things
Speaker 1: that I was like, no way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't even think about that. But you're right,
Speaker 2: because you know, Laurel I would have just gone to
Speaker 2: a thrift store or something like that. Totally.
Speaker 1: She wouldn't spend that money. Yeah, exactly, and if she
Speaker 1: exchanged it, she then knew the value of it. Right,
Speaker 1: So anyway, that's just.
Speaker 2: Yeah, wasn't the right word, because I don't know.
Speaker 1: She could have said I got like a monkey lamp
Speaker 1: and some other like some pillows and some other stuff
Speaker 1: for the house. Like Also, the lamp was just so
Speaker 1: so Laurel I.
Speaker 2: I loved the way that Emily described the lamp. She said, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I had to write it down because it was so funny.
Speaker 2: She called it a semi pornographic leering monkey lamp and
Speaker 2: then also called it a ridiculous slightly sister barroom decoration.
Speaker 1: So good, so awesome. Yeah, I also know not that
Speaker 1: there is there behind behind the couch. So when she's
Speaker 1: sitting up on the couch when her back hurts and
Speaker 1: she's facing towards the kitchen, yes, is there a door
Speaker 1: behind her or is it just a window that looks
Speaker 1: like a door.
Speaker 2: There is a door there, Okay, that's the door that
Speaker 2: goes out to the side porch. But they sometimes use
Speaker 2: it to pretend to be the kitchen door.
Speaker 1: Oh, got it, And they.
Speaker 2: Actually do in the episode coming up. I don't remember
Speaker 2: what number it is, but it's I think it's first
Speaker 2: still first season, the episode where they go to the
Speaker 2: Bengals concert, suit walks. Suki and Lane both walk, I
Speaker 2: know Lane does. Somebody walks in that door. So they
Speaker 2: actually use it a couple times in the early I
Speaker 2: think just in season one, but they didn't use I mean,
Speaker 2: it was always there all seven seasons, but they only
Speaker 2: used it I think in the first season.
Speaker 1: Got it. Yeah, I was like for the first time,
Speaker 1: I was like, huh, there's a door or maybe it
Speaker 1: looks the window that looks like a door.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there is a door that goes out to the side.
Speaker 1: I also, did you notice me being nitpicky in this
Speaker 1: living room? So Rory when she's getting the hairspray in
Speaker 1: her hair, she puts the taco the bag of tacos
Speaker 1: under the table. Oh, and then she leaves and comes
Speaker 1: back with a taco.
Speaker 2: So how did she do that? I didn't even catch that.
Speaker 1: Yes, because I was like the tacos were in a
Speaker 1: white bag and then she came back with like a
Speaker 1: bib and like the taco. Yeah, she never took the
Speaker 1: white bag with her.
Speaker 2: Oh how funny. I didn't even notice that.
Speaker 1: Unless there was another taco sitting in the kitchen. I
Speaker 1: don't know, but I you know, their.
Speaker 2: House could just have random tacos. I mean that would
Speaker 2: be that would be Loreli to have taco everywhere. One
Speaker 2: thing I noticed at the dance itself that looks like
Speaker 2: it was the Wilshery Bell Theater in Los Angeles. And
Speaker 2: that's the same room. They used that room several times
Speaker 2: for another party, right, yeah it was, well, that's where
Speaker 2: they had Richard and Emily's vow renewal.
Speaker 1: The one hundredth episode. Yes, okay, yeah, and.
Speaker 2: That was also where speaking of the debutant episode, that
Speaker 2: was where they had the big debutant ball and they
Speaker 2: came down the girls came down the stairs when they
Speaker 2: were announced, and they used it in the revival too.
Speaker 2: That was where Emily had the dar meltdowneing that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I did not I was thinking it was
Speaker 1: it the hundredth episode. I forgot about what it looked
Speaker 1: like at the Debutante ball, but.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they shot it from different angles, like
Speaker 2: sometimes you see the stairs and sometimes you don't see
Speaker 2: the stairs, so it doesn't look like the same room
Speaker 2: every time, but it was the same.
Speaker 1: Definitely felt like somewhere Chiltern would have a school dance.
Speaker 2: Yes, even comments when they He's like, oh it looks historic,
Speaker 2: like yeah, he fits with yeah, East Coast Private Prep School.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Tristan. It's funny because like, I love Chad Michael
Speaker 1: Murray and I obviously love him as Tristan, but Man,
Speaker 1: Tristan's annoying in this episode. I'm like, just get a grip.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do not like buzzwords generally, but this is
Speaker 2: like the definition of toxic masculinity. Like she was such
Speaker 2: a complete jerk, and he's like when he when Rory
Speaker 2: starts to leave and he steps in front of her
Speaker 2: like he's the big.
Speaker 1: Man, Like yeah, like go away.
Speaker 2: And when Dean said something about like it's it would
Speaker 2: be like fighting an accountant, that just it just made
Speaker 2: me laugh because that was.
Speaker 1: What teenager is saying that well, but.
Speaker 2: I thought it was. It was funny though, because that's
Speaker 2: like Tristan's true guy, but he's not really a tough guy.
Speaker 2: He's like a rich kid.
Speaker 1: It was a funny line, but I was just like,
Speaker 1: I don't know if a sixteen.
Speaker 2: Year old would say that, that's especially Dean, Like maybe
Speaker 2: maybe a prep school kid would say.
Speaker 1: Right. Also, we haven't really established that we kind of
Speaker 1: like Paris. We as of right now, we really really
Speaker 1: don't like her. And specifically when she was like, Tristan,
Speaker 1: are you okay? And I was like, really, like, I
Speaker 1: just I didn't really need that there, but I thought
Speaker 1: it was funny because you can just tell she like
Speaker 1: does not get a crap about.
Speaker 2: Right well, and she's so she's so desperate to get Yeah,
Speaker 2: you get Tristan to notice her. Then she's like, oh
Speaker 2: my gosh, are you okay, like fawning over him.
Speaker 1: And the part where she made the whole speech about
Speaker 1: being there with her cousin and Rory's like, I don't
Speaker 1: have to tell them, you just said I love that.
Speaker 1: It was so it was so perfect, like and Rory's
Speaker 1: response was so like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she totally beat Paris at her own game, which, yeah,
Speaker 2: that was a great scene also at the dance if
Speaker 2: you you have to look really quick. But Aris Alvarado
Speaker 2: was in that scene. So he played Caesar in later episodes.
Speaker 1: Oh at Luke.
Speaker 2: Steiner, but he was just for a split second. I
Speaker 2: am not even sure if I can catch the exact second,
Speaker 2: but you can see him in a shot at Chilton,
Speaker 2: like the camera yeah, past him and then cuts to
Speaker 2: a different angle.
Speaker 1: There's also something I caught just to go back towards
Speaker 1: the beginning of the episode. So, I mean, obviously we
Speaker 1: just went to stars Hollow right before Christmas, and so
Speaker 1: we kind of got the lay of the lands of
Speaker 1: where everything was. And I remember, okay, the day we
Speaker 1: were there for people listening was probably the hottest day
Speaker 1: in December, like it was cold all of Christmas. It
Speaker 1: was the one day we were at the Warner Brothers lot.
Speaker 1: It was like eighty five degrees and everyone was sweating.
Speaker 1: It was insane and in the open and maybe also
Speaker 1: not the opening scene, but it's when she's walking with
Speaker 1: Lane through the town. Yeah, so when she's walking with Lane, Okay,
Speaker 1: it's a really cloudy day and it was like obviously
Speaker 1: it was like snowing, but if you look up it's cloudy. No,
Speaker 1: it was like I wonder if they actually got like
Speaker 1: a cold day to film. It seemed like that because
Speaker 1: Scott has told us so many times that like didn't
Speaker 1: matter if it was hot or cold, like if they
Speaker 1: had to wear those jackets to pretend it was fifty
Speaker 1: degrees and forty degrees in Stars Hollow. But if you
Speaker 1: look back, it actually really does look gloomy.
Speaker 2: I noticed that too, actually because I noticed that it
Speaker 2: was overcast, which you don't see that often, especially see
Speaker 2: if this was episode what was.
Speaker 1: This nine yet air December twentieth, so I would I
Speaker 1: want to say they were they had to film but
Speaker 1: in September.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm thinking. Yeah, and September in la is
Speaker 2: usually hot. So if yeah, yet an overcast day, like.
Speaker 1: Unless it was really early in the morning, like that
Speaker 1: was like six am, because sometimes you know it could
Speaker 1: be a little gloomy.
Speaker 2: But it did accidentally look like winter, which.
Speaker 1: Yes, it was the first time, and the season is
Speaker 1: the part I'm like, oh, it looks cold. I didn't
Speaker 1: really have a lot I feel like this episode because
Speaker 1: we were like at Chilton and at Miss Patty's, Like
Speaker 1: I didn't have a lot of like call outs for
Speaker 1: little things I had.
Speaker 2: I had two minor things. And again, this is just
Speaker 2: like my nitpicky brain that just notices things like this.
Speaker 2: When they were at Lorelei's house and Lorelei and Emily
Speaker 2: were watching the Barbara Stanwick movie and they were talking about,
Speaker 2: you know, her sexy voice and all that, this is
Speaker 2: where I noticed the clown pillow. But also when Emily
Speaker 2: stands up to go in the kitchen, there was a
Speaker 2: piece of green tape on the couch. Oh okay, And
Speaker 2: I thought about how, like Scott told us before, you know,
Speaker 2: on the floor, they'll use tape so that the actors.
Speaker 1: Know, like the markers, right, they know where.
Speaker 2: They're walking, they know where to stop, and they know
Speaker 2: where to stand, and they use a different color for
Speaker 2: each actor. You know, who's is who's. I thought it
Speaker 2: was weird that they would do that on a couch.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't know.
Speaker 2: The scene opened with her already sitting on the couch
Speaker 2: and she got up and walked away. It wasn't like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, unless it was like set up.
Speaker 1: My only my only guess is if it was like
Speaker 1: to make sure she's in the same spot and for
Speaker 1: every camera angle, so that if you need to cut
Speaker 1: like take like take away what are they called cutaways,
Speaker 1: like cutaway shots like to pick up. But yeah, I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't know, So that's funny.
Speaker 2: That was what I was thinking too, that it must
Speaker 2: be for camera set up purposes.
Speaker 1: I also did like the way that when it's the
Speaker 1: next morning and she just got a call from from
Speaker 1: Patty and the way the camera walks from the living
Speaker 1: room to the kitchen, like it was so like that
Speaker 1: that camera work there was very like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: it was really good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And then in that right around that same time, Oh, actually,
Speaker 2: I have something else I wanted to point out too.
Speaker 2: I didn't highlight it in my notes, but when Rory
Speaker 2: when they're running out of Miss Patty's and Rory's like
Speaker 2: running down the street, So that again was that was
Speaker 2: a nice camera shot. It was it was like a
Speaker 2: single take from Miss Patties all the way past Luke's
Speaker 2: past Yeah, like all the way down the street. But
Speaker 2: I had to kind of think, now, wait a minute,
Speaker 2: it's five point thirty in the morning, it's supposed to
Speaker 2: be snow on the ground, and she's running down the
Speaker 2: street and pantyhose.
Speaker 1: Well, not only that, why was the sun fully out
Speaker 1: of five am? Like when the shed the whatever, the
Speaker 1: Patty's studio door opened. It's fine. I'm like, where is
Speaker 1: it five am? Where this Like, I have to say
Speaker 1: I woke up at five forty five this morning. It
Speaker 1: was not like that in winter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's true. That's a good point. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I thought that was funny. I'm like, I don't think
Speaker 2: she would run very far in ice ground in pantyhose.
Speaker 1: Like at five am, the sun is supposed to be
Speaker 1: downstill or at least like peeking out a tad.
Speaker 2: And then just one other shout out when they were
Speaker 2: in Miss Patty's and Miss Patty comes in with her
Speaker 2: whole yoga class and they're like, oh my gosh, it's
Speaker 2: Laurelized girl.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The older ladies is Amy Sherman Palladino's mom.
Speaker 1: Oh no way.
Speaker 2: They used her a couple of times in the show.
Speaker 1: Oh that's so cool, that's sweet. I did think it
Speaker 1: was funny when in that scene they're all huddled and
Speaker 1: they're like, Patty, come here, and there's a complete wide
Speaker 1: opening at the end, like of the all the ladies.
Speaker 1: But she had to like scuffle through them. I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm sure, like on the right side there was like
Speaker 1: wide open shop for you to like stand there. But
Speaker 1: I think it was like the.
Speaker 2: Gist, it's like everybody crowd into this three foot area.
Speaker 1: Don't get fine, but you can see the space, which
Speaker 1: is so funny. I'm like, how do you could have
Speaker 1: stepped like two steps to your left and see it. Also,
Speaker 1: there's no way you could sleep on that bean bag
Speaker 1: for like six hours comfortably.
Speaker 2: Right, they would have woken up. I don't think that
Speaker 2: they were.
Speaker 1: And also it would have been freezing. The door was open. Also,
Speaker 1: it's not like there's air conditioning in that thing, right.
Speaker 2: It's just a shed. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I mean, and like I can't remember was was
Speaker 1: Zane's jacket on her? No, she just had her dress.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was just her dress.
Speaker 1: She would have been like free like having hypothermia.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have to just use our imagination that that's
Speaker 2: how it.
Speaker 1: Now we're getting picky.
Speaker 2: So one last note on that scene at Miss Patty's
Speaker 2: was when they first walked in and Dean says he
Speaker 2: asked Rory the question, says, are all these pictures really
Speaker 2: of Miss Patty? Rory says, yes, you know, and then
Speaker 2: talked about her career, how she's done everything except l
Speaker 2: like the hoop on fire or whatever.
Speaker 1: She said, those.
Speaker 2: Pictures actually are pictures of Liz Torrez, Like she's had
Speaker 2: a super long career. She's been a dancer and she's
Speaker 2: I mean, she's very much parallel to Miss Patty's career. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so I always thought that was kind of cool that
Speaker 2: those were actual pictures of her.
Speaker 1: I love I lovely do that, And I wonder, I mean,
Speaker 1: as we go on, if they use anyone else's like
Speaker 1: childhood pictures, like Lauren Graham or anyone. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: sure we'll have to look, but.
Speaker 2: I am almost positive that there is a childhood picture
Speaker 2: of Lauren Graham on the mantle at Laura Leis house.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, her school pictures from which that's sweet. Okay,
Speaker 1: Well now it's something else.
Speaker 2: And there's actually now that I said that, the picture
Speaker 2: of her and Richard at their wedding is actually like
Speaker 2: younger pictures of both Ed Herman and Kelly Bishop.
Speaker 1: Oh and they just put it together.
Speaker 2: Yeah. When 'i's looking at the photo, I think it's
Speaker 2: when Rory's looking at that photo album.
Speaker 1: Wait, when she was staying at the house.
Speaker 3: Yeah, in that episode, it was like a few episodes
Speaker 3: ago or one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was when she was stuck there because of
Speaker 2: the snow and the snow. Oh yeah, it's interesting. That
Speaker 2: was their younger pictures, so it's kind of fun that
Speaker 2: they do that.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, that's gonna wrap this episode, and next
Speaker 1: we'll be watching season one, episode ten, Forgiveness and Stuff,
Speaker 1: which aired December twenty one, two thousand. Oh so it
Speaker 1: aired back to back.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, look at that one day. Yeah, one day apart,
Speaker 2: so they got like a bonus episode that week.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Merry Christmas.
Speaker 3: All right, guys, we'll see you next week meeting adjourn.
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