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Speaker 1: I Am all in again.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's just you.

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Speaker 1: I Am all in Town meeting with Suzanne French and

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Speaker 1: Tara suit An iHeartRadio podcast. Hey guys, welcome back to

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Speaker 1: another episode of I'm All in Town Meeting with myself,

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Speaker 1: Tara and Suzanne.

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Speaker 2: Hello.

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Speaker 1: Hi, we are back and we are on season one,

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Speaker 1: episode nine. Rory's Dance, which aired December twentieth, two thousand.

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Speaker 1: I feel like this episode, I'm gonna keep saying it.

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Speaker 1: It came up so soon. I was like, we're already here,

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Speaker 1: I have a dance.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this was a great episode. I thought, this is

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Speaker 2: it's said so much about all the different mother daughter

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Speaker 2: relationships like Emily, Laurelai, Laurlai and Rory. Just a great

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Speaker 2: episode all around.

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Speaker 1: I thought it's funny my mom. Usually my mom's seen

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Speaker 1: Gilmore Girls many times, but usually when I'm watching these

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Speaker 1: for work, she doesn't really watch with me, but she

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Speaker 1: watched with me last night and she was like, it's

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Speaker 1: so funny because my mom was like reciting the lines.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I'm definitely your daughter, because like there

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Speaker 1: was like little things where she's like she was off

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Speaker 1: by a word, but she knew exactly, like Tristan and

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Speaker 1: stuff like that, like we were all was like, oh

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Speaker 1: my god, like, yeah, we watch it together. I will

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Speaker 1: say this episode made me realize why I don't like Dean,

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Speaker 1: and I feel so bad saying that because I love

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Speaker 1: Jared Pedalaki and I feel like Dean has some great qualities.

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Speaker 1: But the one thing that bothered me, and I guess

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Speaker 1: we'll get into like the nitty gritties, but just overall,

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Speaker 1: the one thing that bothered me was like you could

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Speaker 1: tell Rory was wanted to go to the stands next site,

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Speaker 1: and he just showed zero enthusiasm and kind of like,

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Speaker 1: well fine, like I guess I'll have to wear a

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Speaker 1: to or have to do this, and she's just being

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I noticed that too. I did think that Rory's

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Speaker 2: awkwardness around Dean and trying to like ask him to

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Speaker 2: the car they're like should we go in? Should we

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Speaker 2: not go in? I found her awkwardness a little annoying,

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Speaker 2: and then combined with Dean being a negative nelly about

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Speaker 2: the whole thing, I'm like, you know, these two are

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Speaker 2: together are just annoying this.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's it. Maybe it's like because I kind of

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Speaker 1: I think I've already accepted that Rory can be annoying,

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Speaker 1: Like I like it more in the earlier seasons. But

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Speaker 1: I feel like I just like appreciate and respect her

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Speaker 1: a little bit more than Dean. And so then maybe

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Speaker 1: that's it. Maybe it's like they bounce off this like

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Speaker 1: weird energy from each other.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then it's gonna be repeated again when she

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Speaker 2: has her coming out the debutante balls.

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, yeah, like gets.

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Speaker 2: All whiny about having to wear a text Like, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I get like a teenage boy isn't super excited about

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Speaker 2: wearing a texedo. But yeah, but for a couple hours

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Speaker 2: and do something nice with your girlfriend.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, which, speaking of to get into the nitty gritties,

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Speaker 1: I was looking at the outfits at this dance. This

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Speaker 1: was not like high school dance attire. Maybe it's private

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Speaker 1: school Chilton dance tire, but I was like, they all

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the styles have definitely changed. So having you know,

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Speaker 2: and the styles are definitely different than they were twin.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely the hair like like what I can't remember

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Speaker 1: Or like little like clips, like not betterfly clips, but

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Speaker 1: and I love the outfit. Laurel I did a great job.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, then she's like, you did a really good job,

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Speaker 1: It's the first I mean, obviously, I know we've seen

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she definitely that's her kind of her mo like

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Speaker 2: a couple hours later she somehow ruins it by.

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Speaker 1: Like one step forward and five steps.

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Speaker 2: Back exactly exactly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was because there was a lot happening in

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Speaker 2: See the clown pillow, But the piano was still there.

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Speaker 1: Emily was looking for the Baccarat candles and she bought

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Speaker 1: I knew it was expensive, and I was like, I

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Speaker 1: hundred dollars. It currently runs for seven hundred and fifty dollars. Now,

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Speaker 1: I take it back because yeah, they're Bakarrock candlesticks. Take

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Speaker 1: say they were five six hundred dollars. You're telling me

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Speaker 1: she replaced five hundred dollars candle sticks for that monkey lamp.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope that there was some cash.

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Speaker 1: Back on that, or did you buy like a full

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Speaker 2: I didn't even think about that. That's a good point, though.

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Speaker 1: I literally was sitting there because the one I never

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't even think about that. But you're right,

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Speaker 2: because you know, Laurel I would have just gone to

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Speaker 1: She wouldn't spend that money. Yeah, exactly, and if she

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Speaker 1: So anyway, that's just.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, wasn't the right word, because I don't know.

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Speaker 1: She could have said I got like a monkey lamp

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Speaker 2: I loved the way that Emily described the lamp. She said, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I had to write it down because it was so funny.

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Speaker 2: She called it a semi pornographic leering monkey lamp and

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Speaker 1: So good, so awesome. Yeah, I also know not that

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Speaker 1: she's facing towards the kitchen, yes, is there a door

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Speaker 2: There is a door there, Okay, that's the door that

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Speaker 2: goes out to the side porch. But they sometimes use

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Speaker 1: Oh, got it, And they.

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Speaker 2: Actually do in the episode coming up. I don't remember

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Speaker 2: what number it is, but it's I think it's first

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Speaker 2: Bengals concert, suit walks. Suki and Lane both walk, I

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Speaker 1: Got it. Yeah, I was like for the first time,

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Speaker 2: So how did she do that? I didn't even catch that.

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Speaker 1: Yes, because I was like the tacos were in a

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Speaker 2: Oh how funny. I didn't even notice that.

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Speaker 2: House could just have random tacos. I mean that would

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Speaker 2: thing I noticed at the dance itself that looks like

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Speaker 2: it was the Wilshery Bell Theater in Los Angeles. And

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Speaker 2: for another party, right, yeah it was, well, that's where

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Speaker 2: they had Richard and Emily's vow renewal.

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Speaker 1: The one hundredth episode. Yes, okay, yeah, and.

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Speaker 2: That was also where speaking of the debutant episode, that

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Speaker 2: That was where Emily had the dar meltdowneing that.

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Speaker 1: it the hundredth episode. I forgot about what it looked

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they shot it from different angles, like

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Speaker 1: Definitely felt like somewhere Chiltern would have a school dance.

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Speaker 2: Yes, even comments when they He's like, oh it looks historic,

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Speaker 2: like yeah, he fits with yeah, East Coast Private Prep School.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Tristan. It's funny because like, I love Chad Michael

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Speaker 2: They're walking, they know where to stop, and they know

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Speaker 2: So one last note on that scene at Miss Patty's

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Speaker 1: I love I lovely do that, And I wonder, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I am almost positive that there is a childhood picture

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, her school pictures from which that's sweet. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Well now it's something else.

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Speaker 2: And there's actually now that I said that, the picture

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Speaker 1: Oh and they just put it together.

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Speaker 1: Wait, when she was staying at the house.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, in that episode, it was like a few episodes

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was when she was stuck there because of

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, that's gonna wrap this episode, and next

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Speaker 1: we'll be watching season one, episode ten, Forgiveness and Stuff,

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Speaker 1: which aired December twenty one, two thousand. Oh so it

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, look at that one day. Yeah, one day apart,

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Speaker 2: so they got like a bonus episode that week.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Merry Christmas.

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Speaker 3: All right, guys, we'll see you next week meeting adjourn.

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