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Speaker 1: like like the like the step child. All right, So
Speaker 1: so definitely next Friday, when we recap Day one of
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Speaker 1: all three of us will act here on the players Loue.
Speaker 1: Topic Number one that I want to get to is
Speaker 1: something that I saw today. Adam Schefter of ESPN tweeted
Speaker 1: out the Jamal Adams that's told the Jets he's not
Speaker 1: going to participate at all program. So then you add
Speaker 1: the fact that Chefter tweeted the Jets were not looking
Speaker 1: to extend his contract at all. So you know that
Speaker 1: got cowboy fan thirsty all day long talking about Jamal
Speaker 1: Addas because the Cowboys the Jets had conversations about Adams
Speaker 1: last year. So gentlemen, do you want to start those
Speaker 1: talks again? Straight? No, don't do it. Don't do it.
Speaker 1: You got, like we talked about this earlier. You got
Speaker 1: too many other areas that you need to focus on.
Speaker 1: We have two starting caliber safeties already, so I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't think we should go out and do that.
Speaker 1: And new he has been adamant on saying then we
Speaker 1: have to pay him a ton of money to keep
Speaker 1: him here, So I don't think it makes sense. So
Speaker 1: that's a hard note for me. Yeah, I'm gonna have
Speaker 1: to agree with DMC on this one. That's a hard note.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a hell of a player, hell of
Speaker 1: a safety, great playmaker, but it just adds to another
Speaker 1: piece of the puzzle that you're gonna have to eventually
Speaker 1: pay and shove out money too. We already see we're
Speaker 1: in in a fighting chance for our quarterback right now
Speaker 1: over contract dispiece. So that's just not just another guy
Speaker 1: that you want to throw in there. He's a great safety,
Speaker 1: he'll elevate our defense, But I just don't think it's
Speaker 1: it's worth it right now. If he was the only
Speaker 1: piece of the puzzle left to get to this championship
Speaker 1: that we want so bad, then yeah, I would pull
Speaker 1: the trigger. But I mean, you got Clinton how hot
Speaker 1: Dicks back there now, and then you got Woods back
Speaker 1: there as well. Who's a young, promising safety. So I
Speaker 1: just don't see the reason to pull a trigger on
Speaker 1: this one hell of a player. But I wnna have
Speaker 1: to pass for myself, all right. Cowboy fans want to
Speaker 1: let you know according to sport sporttrack dot Com here,
Speaker 1: Jamal Adams will make seven point one million dollars in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty that he's under contract for twenty twenty two.
Speaker 1: Here's also something else you need to know. Not only
Speaker 1: are the Cowboys gonna have to trade a draft pick
Speaker 1: to the Jets, You're going to have to sign him
Speaker 1: to a deal. Much like what we saw last year
Speaker 1: with Ezekiel Elliott holding out and saying, hey, I want
Speaker 1: a new contract, Adams is doing the same thing. Here
Speaker 1: are the numbers for the top safeties that are being
Speaker 1: paid in the NFL right now. The Bears gave Eddie
Speaker 1: Jackson deal He's being paid the high safety in the
Speaker 1: game right now fourteen point six million. Number two is
Speaker 1: Kevin Byner of the Tennessee Titans making fourteen point one.
Speaker 1: So we know when these guys come up here for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys if they want to be paid the highest
Speaker 1: at their positions. We saw Zach Martin, we saw it
Speaker 1: with our Cooper. We saw it was Zeke Elliott. We
Speaker 1: saw our Tyrant Smith traps Frederick. Jamal Adam's gonna want
Speaker 1: the same thing. So you're talking fifteen million dollars for
Speaker 1: a safety. And if Dak Prescott gets his contract and
Speaker 1: becomes the highest paid guy in his position, he'll be
Speaker 1: making thirty five million per season. I just don't see
Speaker 1: how the Dallas Cowboys can give up draft capital and
Speaker 1: then turn around and pay Jamal Adams fifteen million dollars
Speaker 1: a year. So anybody was thinking about the seventeenth overall
Speaker 1: pick for Jamal Adams, I tell you right now stop
Speaker 1: the reason I'm not gonna give up with the number
Speaker 1: one pick for Jamal Adams. I therefore have to pay
Speaker 1: him money. I remember when Marshall Fault was traded from
Speaker 1: the Coach to the Rams. The Rams gave up a
Speaker 1: two and five, and the reason they did they did
Speaker 1: that because they also had to go ahead and get
Speaker 1: Marshall a new contract. So if the Cowboys are even
Speaker 1: thinking about a Jamal Adams trade with Stephen Jones was
Speaker 1: asked about on the fan at noon, I think you
Speaker 1: got to start with no less than a two. I mean,
Speaker 1: I just said ada less, but just it has to
Speaker 1: start in the two. There's no way you can give
Speaker 1: up the first round pick of five years guarantee of
Speaker 1: a guy in the first round to go ahead and
Speaker 1: make a trade for a Jamal Adams. Joal, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: just don't see that. Go ahead, go ahead you mack Well,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying quickly, just the same as cool. It's
Speaker 1: the same situation. You trade for this guy, he comes in,
Speaker 1: he makes this huge impact, and you gotta pay him.
Speaker 1: And I would say that us having to pay Coop
Speaker 1: is kind of slowing down to us getting paid back.
Speaker 1: So we're in this situation now and we want to
Speaker 1: do the same thing again next year. It doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1: So yeah, giving up your seventeen pick, no, starting at
Speaker 1: the two, you're still just giving up a lot for
Speaker 1: a guy that may not even be on your team.
Speaker 1: The following year. Yeah, I wouldn't. I wouldn't go for
Speaker 1: him because I mean we're in the same situation where
Speaker 1: we had with Byron Jones this past year. I mean
Speaker 1: people were saying, you know, he wants to be the
Speaker 1: highest paid corner and Cowboys fans had problem because he
Speaker 1: wasn't getting interceptions. I mean, Jamal Jamal Adams is known
Speaker 1: to be this box safety, he's not really a ball
Speaker 1: hockey safety. Yeah, he'll get you maybe one or two
Speaker 1: a year, but he's not like the Eddie Jackson's He's
Speaker 1: an't like the tiring magis. He's not going to go
Speaker 1: out there and get you a bunch of ball hockey interceptions.
Speaker 1: And that's what the secondary needs right now. So I
Speaker 1: just don't see you know, giving him or trading for
Speaker 1: him then paying him all these big bucks when we
Speaker 1: had a problem with Byron Jones not getting interceptions. I
Speaker 1: just think we need a ball hockey safety and I
Speaker 1: don't think he's the answer right now. Okay, so the
Speaker 1: three of us are in agreeing that we love Jamal
Speaker 1: Adams from hebron as a player, but not in terms
Speaker 1: of making a trade and then therefore turning around and
Speaker 1: paying him fifteen million dollars, So at the seventeenth overall pick,
Speaker 1: let's revisit the topic we talked about last week. Grant
Speaker 1: Delput of LSU is rated as the top safety, a
Speaker 1: Xavia McKinney of Alabama is rated number two. Would you
Speaker 1: want the Cowboys to go to seventeen last week? When
Speaker 1: to take a safety? Seventeen? McCray, when we spoke last week,
Speaker 1: you went back into how the Cowboys already have two
Speaker 1: guys under contract and you didn't think that they would
Speaker 1: bring in another safety. So go ahead and explain for
Speaker 1: anyone who missed that last week. Yeah, I still don't
Speaker 1: think that that's that's just a good choice. But the
Speaker 1: fact that we have Woods, who's who's approving starting caliber
Speaker 1: safety back there. You picked up Hi high clin Dix,
Speaker 1: who is a starting caliber safety proven over the years
Speaker 1: to you know, make big plays, and then you have
Speaker 1: a guy who you're going to draft in the first
Speaker 1: round and put one of those guys to the bench
Speaker 1: or release. I just don't think that makes much sense
Speaker 1: when you could use that seventeenth pick to help you
Speaker 1: out in a position where you need some serious, serious help.
Speaker 1: I just don't see safety as being that big of
Speaker 1: an issue, and I really didn't see it last year.
Speaker 1: I actually saw a grade of Jeff he've come out,
Speaker 1: came out last year just to give him a shout
Speaker 1: out as being one of the most consistent and shure
Speaker 1: tacklers in the league. I just don't think safety is
Speaker 1: that big of an issue for us at this moment.
Speaker 1: So seventeen, I just don't see it church for me
Speaker 1: at seventeen. I'm gonna stick with my guns. I think
Speaker 1: I had last week. I had us taking Digs the
Speaker 1: corner out of Alabama, and I just saw his pro comparison.
Speaker 1: His pro comparison is Jalen Ramsey. They're both long and
Speaker 1: both fast, can run with anybody in their physical and
Speaker 1: we saw I mean, this is a guy and Jelly
Speaker 1: Ramsey who's all over the place. So I think we
Speaker 1: want to bring a guy like Digs in there to
Speaker 1: kind of shadow to be able to shut down number one.
Speaker 1: I mean, we saw what happened. We passed up on
Speaker 1: Ramsey last time. Yeah, we got Zeke instead, but Ramsey's
Speaker 1: an All Pro, Pro Bowl caliberl corner who we passed
Speaker 1: up on. I mean, I don't see there. I don't
Speaker 1: see there. Being in Ezekiel Elliott in this draft. So
Speaker 1: for me, I'm gonna stick with my guns. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: stick with Diggs. I mean, he's a solid corner out there,
Speaker 1: and I think we need corners more than we need
Speaker 1: safeties at this point. Like Danny said, we got a
Speaker 1: guy in Clinton had hot Digs back there, who they
Speaker 1: just gave four million to to come in there. We
Speaker 1: got Woods in there who's who's steadily becoming a better
Speaker 1: and better safety as the years go on. So I
Speaker 1: think safety is pretty much solid, and I think the
Speaker 1: biggest need for the secondary and his defense overall would
Speaker 1: be corner, and I think Diggs fits the mold perfectly
Speaker 1: all right. For any of the listeners out there don't
Speaker 1: don't know Danny McCray and Barry Church or both defensive guys,
Speaker 1: so they understand the position. And then Barry played in
Speaker 1: Jacksonville with Jalen Ramsey when he left the Cowboys. So
Speaker 1: explain to the listeners here and viewers what having a
Speaker 1: guy like Ramsey did to help that Jacksonville defense. Well,
Speaker 1: having a guy that can pretty much shut down the
Speaker 1: half of the field, not even that pretty much shadow
Speaker 1: the number one receiver if you got a I like
Speaker 1: that who can play with any receiver out in this league.
Speaker 1: You just say, look, that's your man over there. I
Speaker 1: want you to shut him down and you don't have
Speaker 1: to worry about that side of the field. I mean, yes,
Speaker 1: he's gonna give up catches, but he's gonna make up
Speaker 1: plays as well, and that just lets you focus more
Speaker 1: on blitzing and you're able to blitch your linebackers more.
Speaker 1: You're able to do more stunts with their defensive line
Speaker 1: because the quarterbacks gonna have to hold the ball or
Speaker 1: it's going to force the quarterback to go to a
Speaker 1: second and third option, which if you beat us with
Speaker 1: our second with your second and third option at receiver,
Speaker 1: then you deserve to win the game on that one.
Speaker 1: So I mean overall, just having a guy that can
Speaker 1: blanket a receiver out there, and not only that, he's physical,
Speaker 1: he can tackle in the game because now I think
Speaker 1: he's a lot of these dvs, a lot of corners,
Speaker 1: they make business decisions when it comes to tackling. And
Speaker 1: that's a guy that I respect because he was able
Speaker 1: to come in there at corner and hit like a safety.
Speaker 1: And from the highlights I've seen with Diggs. I mean,
Speaker 1: he has that same prototypical build that's able to play
Speaker 1: good against the run and against the past. So that's
Speaker 1: why I'm so adamant on them taking him. But if
Speaker 1: you lose a guy like Byron Jones out there at
Speaker 1: the corner, you're gonna have to get somebody to take
Speaker 1: his shoes, and I just don't think we have that
Speaker 1: in the building right now at the corner position. Mccraig,
Speaker 1: let me ask you about Diggs playing at Alabama, You
Speaker 1: played at LSU, you played in the SEC. How much
Speaker 1: do you think it matters when you play in a
Speaker 1: conference like that and in that Western Division and there's
Speaker 1: not a tougher division in all of college football than
Speaker 1: that SEC West. I think it's huge. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think it's proven over the years till you see the
Speaker 1: guys that come out of that conference, and those guys
Speaker 1: are nfl A ready when they when they come out.
Speaker 1: And then you look at a guy like him who
Speaker 1: had to play against LSU last year, who had a
Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson Chase top quarterback, so he saw some of
Speaker 1: some of the best receivers that he will ever see
Speaker 1: in college. And then he was also coached by one
Speaker 1: of the best defensive coaches for college at his position
Speaker 1: for dB by Nick Saban. So I think if anybody
Speaker 1: is NFL already it's coming out of SEC and playing
Speaker 1: for Nick Saban, it will be digs. Okay, So Dix
Speaker 1: seventeen could be there. There's a lot of mock drafts
Speaker 1: that had CJ. Henderson of Florida going to the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Now Jacksonville, your old place, Barry Church, is an interesting
Speaker 1: position because they got rid of Ramsey, A J. Boyers
Speaker 1: out there anymore Jana and Goquay on the D line
Speaker 1: wants out. They've got left tackle issues there. So just
Speaker 1: based on your knowledge of Jacksonville, where do you think
Speaker 1: they go nine? I think at nine they have to
Speaker 1: go corner man. Like you just mentioned, they're in the
Speaker 1: same type of boat as the Dallas Cowboys are in.
Speaker 1: Um they lost Jayla Ramsey via trade and they traded
Speaker 1: jay or A J. Boyer as well, both of their
Speaker 1: solid corners on the outside, and I think they have
Speaker 1: now there's Trey Herndon and that's it over there at
Speaker 1: the cornerback position for them. So they're gonna have to
Speaker 1: go secondary to meet in this draft. They just paid
Speaker 1: the linebacker from Cleveland to go down there. I believe
Speaker 1: they have on their mock draft. I'm going after the
Speaker 1: guy from Oklahoma. I think his name is Murray, the
Speaker 1: one we had looked at his interview last on Friday.
Speaker 1: But to me, they're all about having speed on their defense,
Speaker 1: being able to fly around. You already got the kid
Speaker 1: from Cleveland, you got Miles jack there, and like you
Speaker 1: said in Goakway, who's one of the premier pass rushers
Speaker 1: in the league. He's already spoken saying he does not
Speaker 1: want to come back there. He does not want to
Speaker 1: be a part of that organization. But they did slap
Speaker 1: the franchise tag on him, so one likely he will
Speaker 1: be back there. So we'll see what happens with that.
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of a lot of mess going
Speaker 1: down there in Jacksonville. But I can see them going
Speaker 1: secondary and taking a corner as well. So we know
Speaker 1: Jeff o'couda, the kid from Grand Prairie, should be a
Speaker 1: top five pick. And that's the number one quarner on
Speaker 1: basically everyone's board, with C. J. Henderson number two, which
Speaker 1: brings us into guys that the Cowboys of have talked to.
Speaker 1: Digs Jeff Glatteney of TCU as a guy there Fulton
Speaker 1: over there at LSU, there's another corner, Danny, give us,
Speaker 1: give us a little bit of insight on Fulton from LSU. Uh. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this guy has been a starter for years. He's a
Speaker 1: he's a proven player. The only thing that takes away
Speaker 1: from him and his shine is that he has a
Speaker 1: guy like Delpa and then he had a guy like
Speaker 1: Stingley come in in the previous years. But you haven't
Speaker 1: heard anything bad about his play. He's a good physical corner.
Speaker 1: He's coached by great coaches. He has speed, he can tackle,
Speaker 1: and he makes plays on the ball. He's been doing
Speaker 1: this for years at LSU, So this is a no
Speaker 1: brainer for me as well. It's just a few names
Speaker 1: that may be more known out there than he is,
Speaker 1: but he's still a great pick for any team. All Right,
Speaker 1: you are checking out the players Lounge here on Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com Radio NEWI Scrubs. We've got Buried Church
Speaker 1: and Danny McCray with us here. McCray Church seventeen. I'm
Speaker 1: a guy that says, you know, sit there, take your guy.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of folks out there that want
Speaker 1: to see a trade down. In your opinion, Church, should
Speaker 1: the Cowboys take that best player that hits them for
Speaker 1: defensive seventeen or do they entertain trading down. Ah, that's
Speaker 1: a tough one, but for me, it would I would.
Speaker 1: I would stay at seventeen and get the best defender available. Um,
Speaker 1: if you go, if you trade down the best defender
Speaker 1: down there, I mean you're gonna you might be able
Speaker 1: to sniff around Okuda, the corner from Ohio State, but
Speaker 1: I feel like he'll be gone top five and I
Speaker 1: just don't think you have the ammunition to trade down
Speaker 1: enough to get down in the top five, So ill
Speaker 1: fount with them. I would stay where they're at. I'm
Speaker 1: sure one of those top corners will still be around
Speaker 1: around seventeen, Like you mentioned the kid from Florida or
Speaker 1: the guy we were just talking about things from Alabama
Speaker 1: or the LSU kid. I think they'll still be there.
Speaker 1: So I think there have plenty of options at seventeen.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's worth the risk to go down
Speaker 1: there and trade down to get, you know, one of
Speaker 1: the top defenders down there when they're pretty much evenly
Speaker 1: based out throughout the throughout the first top twenty twenty picks.
Speaker 1: So if I was them, I would stay where they're at,
Speaker 1: get the best defender. Okay, yeah, you know it's a
Speaker 1: them thinking business wise. If the offer is good enough,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think you have to entertain it to
Speaker 1: some extent um. If you're a player is still sitting
Speaker 1: there two picks before and you think you trade down
Speaker 1: to let nineteen or twenty and he's still be there,
Speaker 1: and then maybe maybe that's that's a good case, but
Speaker 1: it's seventeen. I mean, is it worth the risk to
Speaker 1: miss out, miss out on the player that's on your
Speaker 1: board that falls to you at that position. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, but you never know. In that
Speaker 1: in that war room, it gets a little difficult and
Speaker 1: intentions get high. So we'll be able to watch next week.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question to all right, god, yeah,
Speaker 1: Let let me ask you a question for Quenning. Do
Speaker 1: you feel like there's any offensive player in this draft
Speaker 1: worth trading down for or do you think it's it's
Speaker 1: gotta be defense? But are we talking to training training
Speaker 1: back or trading up training up? I'm sorry, training? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: got you? No, No, there's really not um, this is
Speaker 1: all about your defense. Now. You brought it first off,
Speaker 1: and I will not be able to stress this enough.
Speaker 1: You're bringing Mike McCarthy. Mike McCarthy is already a guy
Speaker 1: understands offense. He's got a Super Bowl ring, he's coached
Speaker 1: an MVP quarterback and Aaron Rodgers. You're paying this guy
Speaker 1: good money to come in here and take a lot
Speaker 1: of the pieces you have and excel them, take them
Speaker 1: up another level. Here. You've already paid the receiver, You've
Speaker 1: paid your line, You've paid your paid your running back.
Speaker 1: You're going to pay your quarterback. Nah, you don't get
Speaker 1: any more help. You make duty with what you've got.
Speaker 1: Marcels us to say, you know they want you to
Speaker 1: cook the meals off of the groceries. Well, guess what,
Speaker 1: Jerry went out there and bought you a slew a food.
Speaker 1: On offense, the defense is hungry. The defense needs help.
Speaker 1: And I go back to what we talked about last
Speaker 1: week on the Players Club and two weeks before that.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys have an issue with their roster. When you
Speaker 1: start talking about how many dudes are up after the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty season, there's a lot of guys on one
Speaker 1: year deals right now. And then the secondary alone. There's
Speaker 1: only one player that's under contract passed this season, and
Speaker 1: that's your corner Brown. So you got to start to
Speaker 1: address these needs here. And the beauty of a first
Speaker 1: round pick is five years of control. Five years of
Speaker 1: control where the price tag on these guys is it's
Speaker 1: it's it's friendly to the club. You ain't gotta pay
Speaker 1: him until year you know, two year six. So to me,
Speaker 1: if you're the Cowboys, you spend all this money on offense,
Speaker 1: and of course we got Tank making a lot of
Speaker 1: money on defense. Number one page defensive end in the game.
Speaker 1: You have to start to give Night Nolan the pieces,
Speaker 1: And to me, I think that starts with the corner
Speaker 1: unless you decide that caleban chasing from LSU is what
Speaker 1: you need up front, because to me, it has to
Speaker 1: be the corner or somebody on the edges helping you
Speaker 1: up front. You got your rank, it's gotta be the
Speaker 1: edge guy, because I think you're paying the markets. Lawrence
Speaker 1: Well one hundred and twenty twenty one million, I think
Speaker 1: that's what a hundred and twenty one million he's got.
Speaker 1: He's gotta produce, He's got to produce. He shouldn't have
Speaker 1: to have a Robin on the other side to help
Speaker 1: him out. Man, hundred and twenty one MILLI, man, it's
Speaker 1: got to be the second day for me. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: gotta go to me. You gotta go secondary. Like they
Speaker 1: picked up all the smith They're banking on Randy Gregor.
Speaker 1: They get reinstated, they got Crawford, they got some guys
Speaker 1: on the D line. Cornerback to me, is you let
Speaker 1: your best corner get out of there because he was
Speaker 1: too expensive. This is a way for you to get
Speaker 1: a corner that you think is just as good. But
Speaker 1: we'll be cheaper and we'll be on the line for
Speaker 1: you know, five years if unless he's uh, he has
Speaker 1: Zeke's agent, Rocky Arsenal, Rocky Arsenal, the light the light
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Speaker 1: around the National Football League on knuis Scrubs, joined by
Speaker 1: former Dallas Cowboys dbs Danny McCray and Barry church So.
Speaker 1: In the news this week, Mike Florio pro Football Talk
Speaker 1: dot com. He went hard after Dak Prescott for hosting
Speaker 1: a gathering at his home and there the TMZ report
Speaker 1: came out said thirty people within, and Dak Prescott says
Speaker 1: that was true. COVID nineteen is going on and people
Speaker 1: are questioning, you know, the social distancing and whether or
Speaker 1: not Dak Prescott was using that properly. Here. The one
Speaker 1: thing that I came away from and is dad gotta
Speaker 1: get some better friends. If somebody leaks videos TMZ, I
Speaker 1: mean right out the gate, you gotta get some better friends.
Speaker 1: It's not gonna come up in your place where you
Speaker 1: beating them for free and they gonna sit around here.
Speaker 1: Takes a video that had Zeke in there and then
Speaker 1: go sell it for a couple of niggas and dimes.
Speaker 1: The TMZ man, let me tell you something, those those
Speaker 1: are not his friends one and that's how you know
Speaker 1: it was it had a little bit more other than
Speaker 1: ten people or people within that group were just invite
Speaker 1: only like that was it all Those people didn't know
Speaker 1: him and they didn't respect him enough to keep that
Speaker 1: under wraps. And it was somebody who just was invited
Speaker 1: and they figured they wanted to make a couple of
Speaker 1: extra bucks. So TMZ, here you go, give me your take.
Speaker 1: Were talking about we're talking about a house party. Look,
Speaker 1: I will say one thing, man, TMZ. I mean, to
Speaker 1: their credit, they're usually correct on their spreaking stories. I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna put that out there. But I mean, Yale,
Speaker 1: you put you hit the nail right on the cough.
Speaker 1: And Danny, I mean he whoever was over there and
Speaker 1: blab like that wasn't his real friend. It was probably
Speaker 1: the friend was invited. So they invited the friend of
Speaker 1: a friend or something like that situation because they went
Speaker 1: they went all out to snitch the TMZ to get
Speaker 1: this bread real quick. But do I think it was
Speaker 1: more than ten people? Yeah? I do think it was
Speaker 1: a little bit more than ten. I don't know about thirty,
Speaker 1: but a little bit more than ten people. I mean,
Speaker 1: people ain't gonna just call the cops if they just see,
Speaker 1: you know, a couple of people here and there. So
Speaker 1: I think it was a little bit more than ten.
Speaker 1: The spread was nice, but they definitely did Nika SAMs.
Speaker 1: They put Nika SAMs up there though that wasn't SAMs.
Speaker 1: But I think it was more than ten for me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at that, and I'm saying to myself, all right,
Speaker 1: you're writing with an NFL quarterback here who's about to
Speaker 1: get a contract of you know, probably thirty five million
Speaker 1: a year, and you're gonna mess it up for this
Speaker 1: guy for a couple hundred bucks and then also mess
Speaker 1: up your ability to ride on this gravy train here.
Speaker 1: I mean that that would tip me off to no extent.
Speaker 1: Now I'm not I'm not Dak Prescot, I'm not a
Speaker 1: twenty six year old guy. Um, but man, for the
Speaker 1: fact that I'm trying to get thirty five million a year,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have anybody around me because I'm trying to
Speaker 1: make sure I get all this bread i can and
Speaker 1: what did we see with de Soto's old von Miller
Speaker 1: he got COVID nineteen. I mean, this thing is no
Speaker 1: joke and it can get to anyone. And we saw
Speaker 1: two NFL players this week that have come out and said, hey,
Speaker 1: I have contracted the coronavirus. Who knows who else has it?
Speaker 1: This is not trying to say anything. I mean, you
Speaker 1: guys understand, if you're a free agent, the last thing
Speaker 1: you're gonna do is tell a team that you've got
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen. Team, get yourself as healthy as you can't.
Speaker 1: I mean, really, I don't got it. You got it.
Speaker 1: I'm healthy, I'm good. I mean you can't. I mean
Speaker 1: you can't imagine. Hey, yeah, we signed we signed Solo,
Speaker 1: so he got coronavirus. Hopefully he's okay whenever we get back. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, Dak Prescott, you agent, man, I would I
Speaker 1: would it? What he's around me? Man knew it, knew it.
Speaker 1: Come on, listen, let me tell you something. If it
Speaker 1: comes up in negotiations that his price is dropping now
Speaker 1: because he could possibly have COVID nineteen, the Cowboys are
Speaker 1: not serious about paying this dude. That is not a
Speaker 1: bigger enough deal to affect this, and that is still
Speaker 1: telling y'all, I'm not logging on to no WebEx or
Speaker 1: no zoom session to do none of that for y'all.
Speaker 1: No OTAs Trobby. So that brings me back to this though.
Speaker 1: When I asked y'all last week, so you see he
Speaker 1: ain't doing no virtual training, he said, he ain't gonna
Speaker 1: show up until you know his deal is there. Do
Speaker 1: you think he ain't gonna show up the training camp
Speaker 1: or mandatory mini camp? If we have what I'm gonna say,
Speaker 1: what does mandatory mini camp consists of? That? Is that
Speaker 1: more open up your laptop and let's see what's going
Speaker 1: on in the film room or is it they have
Speaker 1: to actually go in. I don't think he'll do either one,
Speaker 1: but yeah, we'll see you. Do you see what the
Speaker 1: new CDA out that? Everyone? Go ahead? I just gonna
Speaker 1: say that that with this virtual trader, what does that
Speaker 1: consist of? Do you just have to pop it on
Speaker 1: and they see you? I mean, I mean, how do
Speaker 1: you how do you count that? Because I saw where
Speaker 1: they talked about guys you're gonna be able to pick
Speaker 1: up their workout bonuses through these virtual things. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out what does that truly look like?
Speaker 1: If you're Mike McCarthy, how do you install your office?
Speaker 1: What what are they gonna have Dak and Cooper and
Speaker 1: all these lines, What are they gonna really do? Well?
Speaker 1: You see that they're talking about sending out Apple watches
Speaker 1: and these looks. Because when we play Church, you remember,
Speaker 1: we had those devices on that would tell you how
Speaker 1: fast you ran, how much you ran throughout the practice. Uh,
Speaker 1: they're talking about sending those out to players and then
Speaker 1: you you will have to do your workout and reach
Speaker 1: a certain point on those devices in order to have
Speaker 1: that considered to be a real workout. So, I mean,
Speaker 1: that's one thing. That's one thing that I heard so far.
Speaker 1: You know, we'll see. Yeah, you know you can go
Speaker 1: ahead and pay something to go run some my house
Speaker 1: for heck, take listen. Let me tell you so if you,
Speaker 1: if you are in, if you, if you're an NFL athlete,
Speaker 1: and you pay somebody to go work out for you,
Speaker 1: you do not deserve to be on anybody's team. That's
Speaker 1: true too. That is like, come on, bro, you're supposed
Speaker 1: to be working out already. Anyway, you're gonna go pay
Speaker 1: somebody to run around, like put your put your device
Speaker 1: on the dog and let him go run around the park.
Speaker 1: Come on, man, hey, man, now we've all kind of
Speaker 1: this corona. Man, we've all kind of dialed it down
Speaker 1: a little bit. Man. I mean, hey, you never know, man,
Speaker 1: you know, I have a story and I will tell
Speaker 1: you offline about one player who paid another player to
Speaker 1: do this particular duty for him. So, oh, listen, I
Speaker 1: know what you're talking about. That. You know, let's we
Speaker 1: talk about that. We talk about that offline. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of stories like we don't have to see players
Speaker 1: go ahead. That's not the same that that's that's not
Speaker 1: the same that now, that is not the same. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I got you. You could that's far between what we're
Speaker 1: talking about. But yeah, I got you though. I'll picking
Speaker 1: up what you're putting down, all right. I didn't see
Speaker 1: the vond Miller interview today. Mccraig. What did he have
Speaker 1: to say when he came out and let everybody know
Speaker 1: about his issues dealing with the coronavirus? Uh, basically that
Speaker 1: you know, they asked him, you know, how he was feeling.
Speaker 1: What did he think that he did wrong? Or was
Speaker 1: he doing everything right, and he came out and the
Speaker 1: beginning of the interview started with him, you know, talking
Speaker 1: about how he had did everything right. He only went
Speaker 1: to the store a few times. It's just him and
Speaker 1: his brother over there, and then they keep pushing a
Speaker 1: little bit and they're asking him, you know, so, what
Speaker 1: do you think could have caused this? Was there any
Speaker 1: like maintenance people that came over. He's like, yeah, well
Speaker 1: the plumber came over, the fish tank man came over.
Speaker 1: And then also, you know, I had a couple of
Speaker 1: players come over and work out in my gym. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is just adding up to to wrong.
Speaker 1: Like the longer you talked, the more I'm like picking out.
Speaker 1: I can name like five or six people that you
Speaker 1: could have possibly got just from I'm sitting there, I'm
Speaker 1: thinking to myself, how what do you mean you're doing
Speaker 1: everything right? You got you got? You got players coming
Speaker 1: into your crib. Who knows who they touched or who?
Speaker 1: Where do you and y'all hitting the same weights? Y'll
Speaker 1: probably dapping each other up. Good work, good. I mean,
Speaker 1: It's like I just don't right coughing on each other
Speaker 1: that water, Like, what's going on? Man? What's going on yeah,
Speaker 1: and that didn't make sense to me. I was like, man,
Speaker 1: please stop talking because but one, I mean, you have
Speaker 1: to try to understand how you could get it if
Speaker 1: you actually stayed in the house the entire time and
Speaker 1: did everything right, which I don't know if that's possible,
Speaker 1: but it's obvious that it was more people that he
Speaker 1: was in contact with than just him. Was the fish
Speaker 1: tank man needing? Hey, man, you listen, it's it's it's
Speaker 1: it's five weeks. Man. You still got to make sure
Speaker 1: you keep that stuff up. I don't have a fish tank,
Speaker 1: but I've seen some dirty ones before. Man, that's not
Speaker 1: something you want to your house. But isn't this that
Speaker 1: time right now where you have to kind of do
Speaker 1: something yourself, like you become the fish tank man? I
Speaker 1: mean you'll go to YouTube clean the fish a little bit.
Speaker 1: I mean, no, let me tell you something. If you
Speaker 1: don't know how, if you don't know how to change,
Speaker 1: or you're not gonna get out there and change your
Speaker 1: own or looking at YouTube, that's just something you're not
Speaker 1: gonna do. You still gonna call that same person all.
Speaker 1: But here's a difference. The oil man is open. That's
Speaker 1: an essential business obviously, the fish tank man's open. The
Speaker 1: fish take man's open too. He just he's maintenance. I
Speaker 1: listen for Van, who's doing everything right. That's essential. N
Speaker 1: ain't doing nothing, the bar said. The barber came over
Speaker 1: to man. You listen. It's about people are about to
Speaker 1: start coming out of the woodworks after the end of you.
Speaker 1: They're gonna be like everybody been at Miller House. I
Speaker 1: was over there last week, so TMD gonna have the
Speaker 1: whole list. Everybody was a VARs House, well known. He
Speaker 1: recorded it all, all the cars put him up in
Speaker 1: the driveway, all the cards leaving. Okay, um, let's talk
Speaker 1: talk about another NFL topic this week, which which affected
Speaker 1: the Cowboys because a lot of people slammed the Cowboys
Speaker 1: after giving Ezekiel Ellie the new contracts and you don't
Speaker 1: pay running backs, and he became the highest paid running
Speaker 1: back in the NFL until this week when the Carolina
Speaker 1: Panthers decided that they were going to pay Christian McCaffrey
Speaker 1: the highest contract for an NFL running back. McCaffrey last
Speaker 1: year was absolutely sensational for the Carolina Panthers. So, gentlemen,
Speaker 1: your thoughts on run CFC cashing in big time. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: you got a church Oh run CMC man cashing in.
Speaker 1: But congrats to that man because he definitely deserved that contract.
Speaker 1: Like you said, I think he had over a thousand
Speaker 1: yards receiving. I think he had fifteen hundred so yards
Speaker 1: rushing the ball, I mean countless touchdowns. A guy as
Speaker 1: his money man, so regrets to him to getting paid.
Speaker 1: But for me, this is more about the other guys
Speaker 1: out there, the Drakes of the world, the Derek Hendrys
Speaker 1: of the world. It's just it's it's funny to me
Speaker 1: and I want to get your you guys thoughts on this.
Speaker 1: But it's funny how you know, going into the draft
Speaker 1: or when it's time to pay a running back, you
Speaker 1: know all that position is devalued. I don't want you
Speaker 1: don't want to take a running back that high in
Speaker 1: the first round because you know they're devalued, or you
Speaker 1: don't want to pay this guy after five years you
Speaker 1: you ran them down there, devalued. But nobody says nothing.
Speaker 1: When you know Derreck Henry's carrying his whole team into
Speaker 1: the to the AFC Championship, nobody says anything about the
Speaker 1: running back being devalued. Then, so I just want to
Speaker 1: get your thoughts on do you think the running back
Speaker 1: position is devalued or do you think you know this
Speaker 1: is this is a new trend coming. Mccraig, you start, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't. I've never been one to think that the
Speaker 1: running back position is devalued. I think that it's top
Speaker 1: top three most important positions on the field as far
Speaker 1: as how you're planning to play, go out to play
Speaker 1: a game, your your scheme, and because you got to
Speaker 1: think about it, running game affects how you playing defense,
Speaker 1: if you're able to control the ball, how you do
Speaker 1: play actions. It helps out your quarterback if he's a
Speaker 1: rookie or if he just needs a little help and
Speaker 1: getting getting some guys open your screen game. The running
Speaker 1: back to me is one of the most important positions
Speaker 1: on the field, and it always will be, and it
Speaker 1: will always show in the playoffs. It will always show.
Speaker 1: That's what we saw with Derrick Henry. Most important guy
Speaker 1: in the end the playoffs for his team was Dereck Henry,
Speaker 1: and Christian McCaffrey went out to show that as well.
Speaker 1: For the last two years that dude was absolutely amazing. Overall, So,
Speaker 1: the running back position is definitely high. But people want
Speaker 1: to save money, they want to knock it, so that's
Speaker 1: the route that they're taken. But Cray, I'm with you.
Speaker 1: I love what Derrick Henry did. He was the offense
Speaker 1: and saw what he did in Alabama as well. He
Speaker 1: won a national championship in high Stoo Trophy there. I
Speaker 1: mean they used the player. I was a big fan
Speaker 1: of Christian McCaffrey back when he was over at Stanford.
Speaker 1: To day Shaw was using him and Ezekiel Elliott. I
Speaker 1: contend all day long the Cowboys immediately take him at
Speaker 1: four when they did. My issue with Ezekiel Elliott has
Speaker 1: been their lack of using him enough in the passing
Speaker 1: game because we know what he can do with the football.
Speaker 1: I feel like they don't get the guy enough touches here.
Speaker 1: So if you've got an elite running back and those
Speaker 1: are three elite running backs, well dog, you pay elite
Speaker 1: players now. I look at Melvin Gordon, who held out
Speaker 1: last year with the Chargers, was trying to get the
Speaker 1: contract that offered a ten million a year. He turned
Speaker 1: it down like a fool. They got Austin X. You're
Speaker 1: not here to put up production. I mean you got
Speaker 1: to know your value and know your work. Melvin Gordon
Speaker 1: tried to put himself in that category of Zeke. When
Speaker 1: you've got a special player, and I don't care what
Speaker 1: position it is, guys, it could be at center, it
Speaker 1: could be tight. If you've got a special player, then
Speaker 1: you pay the special player. And I think all three
Speaker 1: of those guys we mentioned here, Zeke Runs, CMC and
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry, these are guys that are difference makers on
Speaker 1: their football team, and you pay difference mans. You gotta
Speaker 1: pay the man, and they had paid. They paid Zeke,
Speaker 1: you know, his his big contract last year. But with
Speaker 1: that point that you're making saying, if he's special, you
Speaker 1: pay them, why haven't they paid for yet? Pay who
Speaker 1: oh yeah, trying to an I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Are the ain't goodness? I don't they dragon talk about
Speaker 1: dragon feet? This is this is the perfect good We've
Speaker 1: been talking about this since the season. All all right,
Speaker 1: let's take a break here. When we come back, let's
Speaker 1: dive into what you said Church, questioning whether or not
Speaker 1: they want to pay for because I'm gonna go a
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Speaker 1: I Knew the Structs joined by a former Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 1: DB's Danny McCray and Barry church Um TV Wise this week,
Speaker 1: I got sucked into watching the O. J. Simpson docu series.
Speaker 1: My kids wanted to watch it. They who's OJ Simpson?
Speaker 1: So they started watching. The next thing I know, I
Speaker 1: got pulled in to watching the one that's the one
Speaker 1: that Cuba Gooding Junior was in and Courtney b Vands
Speaker 1: played Johnny Cochrane. And then my wife got all she
Speaker 1: got all into the scene when they had him try
Speaker 1: on the gloves and she was like, they shouldn't have
Speaker 1: never had him do that, And I said, you gotta
Speaker 1: rewatch the movie. She's like, what everyone knows those gloves shrunk.
Speaker 1: I said, you gotta understand. What they were trying to
Speaker 1: do is create a reasonable doubt. And then of course
Speaker 1: I got to explain to my kids, you know who
Speaker 1: was is that he used to play football and so
Speaker 1: it's just very interesting to sit around you this weekend
Speaker 1: and kind of kind of deal with that that O. J.
Speaker 1: Simpson thing with my kids and then trying to watch that.
Speaker 1: So what do you guys from watching? And real quick
Speaker 1: New real quick when we get we get off the air,
Speaker 1: I gotta me and mccraig got an interesting story about Cuba. Gooday, Junior,
Speaker 1: U that off the air and go ahead with uh nah?
Speaker 1: So I come on, man, come on look. Yeah you'll
Speaker 1: like it, Yeah you'll like it. Um nah. I'm actually
Speaker 1: searching for new stuff to watch. Like I said, I
Speaker 1: finished stuff money, heise Um. How to Get Away with
Speaker 1: Murder is back on, But I mean that once a
Speaker 1: week stuff is killing me. Netflix has me spoiled, so
Speaker 1: I'm looking for something new to get into that I
Speaker 1: can binge watch. We started watching the show called Rain,
Speaker 1: but it's a little uh, it's a little soapy for
Speaker 1: so we just can't sit there and watch it all day.
Speaker 1: So if y'all got some got some advice or some recommendations,
Speaker 1: let me know. Oh I got you covered. Man, you
Speaker 1: just got to watch the last Dance when Michael Jordan
Speaker 1: comes Sunday. It don't come on to Sunday. I know
Speaker 1: that today's Friday. I got two days to time the field,
Speaker 1: all right, So I'm gonna help you out even more. Here.
Speaker 1: You should get the book Michael Jordan The Life by
Speaker 1: rolland Lazingbet and or The Jordan Rules by Sam Smith
Speaker 1: to get you ready for the documentary. Now, if you
Speaker 1: get the Life by rolland Lazingbeat. It's a five hundred
Speaker 1: page book. Best thing I've ever read on Michael Jordan's
Speaker 1: Playing for Keeps that David Halberstam wrote about Michael Jordan's
Speaker 1: also sensational. So I would recommend in these next two
Speaker 1: days mccraig, go ahead dive on into these Michael Jordan biographies.
Speaker 1: Because you're young. You're in church, are young guy? You
Speaker 1: guys don't remember Jorsi. I saw Jordan play when I
Speaker 1: was living in favor of North Carolina. He was Mike
Speaker 1: Jordan for Wilming to North Carolina, playing for the Tar Heels.
Speaker 1: So I got a little more dive into this church
Speaker 1: is one of the great great Omega sci Fi members
Speaker 1: of all times. Church. You see how new it did.
Speaker 1: I told him, I told him to recommend me something
Speaker 1: to watch. He gave me two books. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: watch some TV. I got me and my wife over
Speaker 1: here looking for the stuff to watch. We don't wanna
Speaker 1: go buy two books and read to each other. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna read that. I'm gonna read that, though I know
Speaker 1: I'm gonna read it. I'm gonna read it. But as
Speaker 1: far as something to watch, I'm fresh out, man, I'm
Speaker 1: fresh out idea to watch I got. I'm on a
Speaker 1: season three of The Money Heist, I mean the like
Speaker 1: you said, Um, what's that how to Get Away with
Speaker 1: Murder Man? That's that's a good show. But like you said,
Speaker 1: it's once a week, so how can you? How can
Speaker 1: you stick with that? So I'm like you, man, I'm scraggling.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to find something to keep going to. Look
Speaker 1: if you rewatch season four or five of The Wire
Speaker 1: like I did a couple of weeks back last month,
Speaker 1: that's worth your time. Now out, that's good. That's good TV, man,
Speaker 1: I can see that. I can see that. One knew
Speaker 1: you still need to watch Sopranos. How about that? Get started?
Speaker 1: You are? You are correct? But you know what I've
Speaker 1: been doing chair Lucrainian Church. I've been reading a lot
Speaker 1: so so I hadn't hit as much TV. Now, one
Speaker 1: thing I did, like, okay, here's one on HBO that
Speaker 1: I'm watching. Um, it's about Christian Dawkins in that whole
Speaker 1: college basket. I think it's called the Scheme. I can't
Speaker 1: remember what's something like that, but but it's about Christian
Speaker 1: Dawkins and Panels those coaches and everything, how the NCA
Speaker 1: was going through all that whole day with Sean Miller
Speaker 1: and Bruce Pearl and then the dude down there, LSU,
Speaker 1: your boy who was cheating there? Dawn? Here you go,
Speaker 1: you here you go? His name? You know, what's it?
Speaker 1: What's his name? Will whatever? What's it? Naw? I don't know,
Speaker 1: but I think my bows headphones just showed up. I
Speaker 1: heard a knock at the door. How about that? Now, Yeah,
Speaker 1: like we've never been a player the LSU. I'm like,
Speaker 1: so anyway, check that out. That's two hours on HBO.
Speaker 1: So check that one out. That that documentary is pretty good.
Speaker 1: Diego Maradona, it's another documentary that I watched on HBO
Speaker 1: back in February. Great Soccer Player with the greatest soccer
Speaker 1: players ever. It is a documentary worth watching. And you
Speaker 1: talk about our love of Michael Jordan and how how
Speaker 1: popular he is, Diego Maradona's status across the world for
Speaker 1: being a great soccer player, um man. And he cheated
Speaker 1: the World Cup. It cheated the World Cup. Yeah, I'll
Speaker 1: tell you that that that is one heck of a documentary,
Speaker 1: um to. That's on HBOS. And now now I gave you.
Speaker 1: I gave you something there, mccraig. All right, I'm good.
Speaker 1: I'm I check them out. I'm one of them starting
Speaker 1: to starting today. Oh I'll tell you what. That horse
Speaker 1: that's trash. Yeah, that's that's absolutely This is a perfect
Speaker 1: example of trying to do too much, like let it,
Speaker 1: let it be, bro, you got nothing, you got nothing,
Speaker 1: Just let it be the women of Troy. Okay, that's
Speaker 1: another wa I watched on HBO and it really dives
Speaker 1: into women's basketball and how great a player Cheryl Miller was.
Speaker 1: And I tell you I was happy to see it
Speaker 1: because I have such respect. I remember watching Cheryl Miller
Speaker 1: played at USC and those two great teams they had
Speaker 1: the one national championships and Cheryl finished up four years
Speaker 1: at USC, played in three national championship games, won two
Speaker 1: of them. She ended up playing a pickup game against
Speaker 1: guys and blew out herkneath, so we never got to
Speaker 1: see how great she was. And Cynthia Cooper was a
Speaker 1: player on the USC teams, but she was never as
Speaker 1: good as Cheryl. So when the u NBA finally started,
Speaker 1: and it happened late and Cynthia's career basketball career, she
Speaker 1: comes over to the Houston Rockets, wins three MVPs, they
Speaker 1: win four championships, and she's hailed as the greatest player
Speaker 1: ever in the league history. When at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, if Cheryl played there would it never happened.
Speaker 1: Cheryl ended up being the head coach of the Phoenix Mercury.
Speaker 1: But to see how great she is and how great
Speaker 1: Lieberman is, and the effect is that she had on
Speaker 1: women's basketball, that is that is well worth your time.
Speaker 1: It's called the Women of Choice, so you'll enjoy that.
Speaker 1: Gotch that's a that's Reggie sister right, Uh, yes, yes, yes, Reggie,
Speaker 1: Reggie Miller and Cheryl Miller. They're from southern California. I've
Speaker 1: been with Cheryl a few times during the NBA playoffs
Speaker 1: when you know T and T hades. She worked for
Speaker 1: T and T. And I remember one time she was
Speaker 1: trying to interview a certain player and we were both
Speaker 1: gonna go in and I just I backed off. I said,
Speaker 1: no, no no, you the first lady hoops, you go ahead
Speaker 1: and choosing. And the respect that she had from younger guys,
Speaker 1: because so many times people talk about, you know, younger
Speaker 1: guys don't know who came before that everybody in these rooms,
Speaker 1: man knew who Cheryl was and she had ultimate respecting.
Speaker 1: You guys knew his former players that who gets respect
Speaker 1: in the locker room based on what they used to
Speaker 1: do as a woman. I'm telling you, man, she had
Speaker 1: it from these NBA players. Check it out. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: check him out. Now. Let's check out Cam. Cam Newton
Speaker 1: to the Jags I told we couldn't figure it out
Speaker 1: last week. Nowis something that I think I think l
Speaker 1: as you heard him, so they wanted he wanted to
Speaker 1: answer that question for so they now they want Cam
Speaker 1: Newton to go to Jacksonville. What's what you thinking? For me?
Speaker 1: I don't don't. I saw about you know, Frenette was
Speaker 1: trying to coax him to get him down there, and
Speaker 1: he was talking about you know where Cam, he would
Speaker 1: I think it would be a decent fit, man. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, you know SEC down there. Jacksonville is a
Speaker 1: huge SEC talent, So I think they would love Cam
Speaker 1: down there. But I just you know, they could put
Speaker 1: all their ducks in the gardener Misshire. They just let
Speaker 1: go of. They just traded I think folds and then
Speaker 1: they get you know, they put all their ducks in
Speaker 1: for Garden Miss. She said, of bringing in some more
Speaker 1: quarterback competition for him, I just don't think it would
Speaker 1: be a good idea. Here's my question about Cam Newton
Speaker 1: to Jacksonville and Barry. You can address us very well.
Speaker 1: Can Doug Moron? Does he ego deal with Cam new
Speaker 1: because Cam new is not gonna come in there to
Speaker 1: sit on the bench. Can Lugo coming there compete against
Speaker 1: gard to ment you, kim Ugo come in there? W start?
Speaker 1: And Cam Newton is a guy that dudes loves, like
Speaker 1: Alan Iverson you now in the locker room, guys love
Speaker 1: being around that dude. Is Doug Moron will be you know,
Speaker 1: secure enough to handle it? I would say no, he
Speaker 1: has a better chance now than when Tom coughlin was there.
Speaker 1: When Tom conflint was there, I would have said, hell no,
Speaker 1: there ain't no way, There ain't no way in hell
Speaker 1: that that's gonna work out. But with Tom mccoughlin gone,
Speaker 1: Doug Moron I still say no. But he has a
Speaker 1: better shot without Tom conflint breathing down his neck to
Speaker 1: kind of handle the Cam Newton. But even with that said,
Speaker 1: I doubt they make that move all right? With the
Speaker 1: rest of our time. Here, let's go back to something
Speaker 1: you addressed in the player's lounge earlier church, and that's
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott and wondering why they haven't paid me. Here's
Speaker 1: my take on. The Cowboys kept trying to get discounts,
Speaker 1: and along the way as they were trying to get
Speaker 1: the discounts, Dak kept betting on himself and it paid all.
Speaker 1: I just think they don't want to pay the thirty
Speaker 1: five million, but we know at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: they're going to have to pay the high number. It's
Speaker 1: what they've done for all these guys they wanted to have.
Speaker 1: And I've covered this team a long time, covered Jimmy
Speaker 1: Johnson's last year with the Cowboys and Barry Switcher's first year.
Speaker 1: I've covered the team a long time. I've never seen
Speaker 1: the owner lose a player that he truly won. So
Speaker 1: I just think it's going to get done. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think it's gonna get done too. I Mean, here's a guy.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's no reason not to pay him. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's he's gotten better each of his first four years.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's won the division twice. He's got you
Speaker 1: a playoff game. I think he threw for forty nine
Speaker 1: hundred yards last last year. I mean, so this this
Speaker 1: is basically the gear that gets this offense rolling. I mean,
Speaker 1: and without him, I think it's a pedestrian offense at that.
Speaker 1: So you gotta pay him his money. I'm just shocking.
Speaker 1: I'm surprised that it hasn't come through yet. It hasn't
Speaker 1: come out yet. I mean, like you said, you paid
Speaker 1: the running back who had two years left on his deal,
Speaker 1: You paid the receiver top dollar, you paid everybody else
Speaker 1: top dollar. You think the most important important position on
Speaker 1: the football team will get paid top dollar first. But
Speaker 1: they're making them wait. Maybe it's because, like you said,
Speaker 1: they don't want to pay that thirty five million dollars tag.
Speaker 1: But we'll see. I mean, hopefully they get it done,
Speaker 1: because it would be a shame for him to have
Speaker 1: all these years and just be wasted on franchise tags
Speaker 1: like Kirk Cousins. Yeah, I say that. I want to
Speaker 1: say that they do pay him Church. I want to
Speaker 1: throw out last year at least fifteen hundred yards of it.
Speaker 1: I'm still adamant that on the trash yards that he
Speaker 1: got in some of these games. The what the defenses.
Speaker 1: They were just playing off and letting them throw whatever
Speaker 1: he needed to just just so they can run off
Speaker 1: the time off the clock and not lose. So you know,
Speaker 1: it was forty nine hundred. Everybody keeps saying he had,
Speaker 1: you know, his best stats last year, and a lot
Speaker 1: of it was trash yards, But the previous years of
Speaker 1: him taking him to the playoffs and the way he played,
Speaker 1: I think he deserves to get paid off of that,
Speaker 1: and I think they'll get it done. I go back
Speaker 1: to two things here that I keep telling people. One,
Speaker 1: the owner seventy seven years old, he's not trying to wait.
Speaker 1: He wants to win. And then two, just look at
Speaker 1: what Stephen Jones has consistently said, deadlines make deals, and
Speaker 1: one of the Cowboys done a lot of their They've
Speaker 1: done them at the deadline. You even think about Ezekiel
Speaker 1: Elliot last year, who had no leverage. They end up
Speaker 1: getting it done at the end. Why the owner wanted
Speaker 1: to get this team on the football field and thought
Speaker 1: head he had a Super Bowl chance, and the head
Speaker 1: coach wanted to have Ezekiel Eli there, especially knowing he
Speaker 1: was on the final year of his deal. So here
Speaker 1: comes Mike McCarthy, Mike McCarthy and you guys already seeing No,
Speaker 1: you're not able to work with these guys in the
Speaker 1: OTAs and have camp. You gotta sit up here and
Speaker 1: put a veteran quarterback here. You can't sit and go
Speaker 1: with Cooper Rush. It's gonna get done. It's a matter
Speaker 1: of when. But there's no way this thing does not
Speaker 1: get done. That gets done July fourteenth, and he gets
Speaker 1: done July fourteenth on the deadline because the deadlines July fifteenth.
Speaker 1: But they're gonna get this deal done. Dak Prescott is
Speaker 1: gonna be a Cowboys football player this fall. They're gonna
Speaker 1: get a long term deal, Jerry Jones say. Jerry Jones
Speaker 1: said he was part of the family. So I'm really
Speaker 1: not worried about it. It's just it's gonna get done.
Speaker 1: So it's this, uh Jacksonville. No, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no, no no, no, no no. That's going somewhere. I just I
Speaker 1: just I just don't know where yet. But well accorded
Speaker 1: what newly with your timeline? Uh you know, like Church
Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, So that means Dax's gonna miss OTAs and
Speaker 1: whatever the mini camp is. However, that looks he's gonna
Speaker 1: miss all that because July fifteenth is when they'll get
Speaker 1: this uh this deal done, or the fourteenth somewhere around there.
Speaker 1: Here's gonna be the interesting part on the what does
Speaker 1: what juice does Mike McCarthy have? If Mike McCarthy starts
Speaker 1: putting this stuff in, you know, he doesn't have him there.
Speaker 1: You know, all takes is Mike McCarthy just walking down
Speaker 1: that lot. Hey, Jerry, I need this guy. I need
Speaker 1: this guy because if the heck to me that that's
Speaker 1: that das best. The best person he can have right
Speaker 1: now in this court is Mike McCarthy. Because if the
Speaker 1: head coach is sitting here going to Stephen and going
Speaker 1: to Jerry saying I can't do what I need to do, man,
Speaker 1: we're gonna be behind. We're not gonna be where we
Speaker 1: need to be. We're gonna possibly cost ourselves a shot
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty to be really good or as good
Speaker 1: as we can be because this guy's out here. So that,
Speaker 1: to me, it's gonna be something to pay attention to.
Speaker 1: What does the head coach what kind of juice does
Speaker 1: he have with the owner to say I really need Mike.
Speaker 1: But but is he not doing this already. I mean,
Speaker 1: did this not come with him getting hired here to
Speaker 1: know that he needed deck And that was in the
Speaker 1: conversation and all these months leading up to this, McCarthy
Speaker 1: had mentioned that he's gonna be behind and he needs
Speaker 1: that to be here. Now. Yeah, but I come back
Speaker 1: to this. Once this stuff starts happening and it's not there,
Speaker 1: then you know, it takes on a different life of us. Mean,
Speaker 1: you guys have been there. You guys have been there
Speaker 1: where you knew guys were Hey, so and so might
Speaker 1: not be here. Next thing, you know, here is the
Speaker 1: ota we remember Travis Frederick, I, Zach Mark, Oh, Zach
Speaker 1: Mark sat sat it on out. You know, once you
Speaker 1: start to see it and it's not there, it becomes
Speaker 1: a different There's one thing to talk about, don When
Speaker 1: you see it like old rut road, rut rod, then
Speaker 1: I think it takes on a different So I think
Speaker 1: that I think that hurts back in this in this
Speaker 1: stands because they're not gonna be on the field. You're
Speaker 1: not gonna Jarry not gonna be able to look over
Speaker 1: from his tower or wherever he's gonna look for him
Speaker 1: now because it's not there. And see that the team
Speaker 1: is being held back because that's not there. It's in
Speaker 1: his mind. It could be hey man, this is this
Speaker 1: is just film session. That's a smart guy. He'll be
Speaker 1: able to pick it up whenever, and we will send
Speaker 1: in the playbook he can study it on on his
Speaker 1: own because he's a professional. I think this kind of
Speaker 1: hurts him in that sense. Well, this means Cooper Rush
Speaker 1: will be the guy on the virtual training is doing
Speaker 1: and I don't think that's what Mike McCarthy signed up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a bad look. That's a bad look. It's a
Speaker 1: horrible look. But Dak won't be there on Monday, so
Speaker 1: it's gonna be Cooper Rush for at least the next week. Yeah.
Speaker 1: If I'm Dak, man, I'm not. I'm not showing up.
Speaker 1: I'm not showing up for OTA. My internet, My internet
Speaker 1: is out. OK. Just just don't have Just if you
Speaker 1: don't show up, just don't have a and stop stop
Speaker 1: telling Dens to tweet out videos and photos of it.
Speaker 1: So that's that's what you do. If you're Dak, if
Speaker 1: you're gonna, if you're gonna, if you're not gonna be that,
Speaker 1: just go dark all the way. Just don't be seen,
Speaker 1: don't don't do anything at all. Let's let's wrap this
Speaker 1: up with where we began talking about the draft, because
Speaker 1: we are less than a week away next Thursday, the
Speaker 1: Draft Stars teams are gonna be doing it virtually at
Speaker 1: seventeen as of right now. Okay, Danny, give me your
Speaker 1: first round pick for the Cowboys the seventeen, then you Burry,
Speaker 1: I'm still in barrass pick. I'm going to digs uh
Speaker 1: corner you lost Byron. I think that's a one of
Speaker 1: those positions that you need to have somebody that can
Speaker 1: excel and play it and cut off half the field,
Speaker 1: and you assume that that'll be digs seventeen. I think
Speaker 1: I think that's where we had Wilsons. Danny stole my
Speaker 1: pick at seventeen with Diggs. I'm gonna have to say,
Speaker 1: if they can't get Diggs and they can't get C. J.
Speaker 1: Henderson in the corner out of Florida, and I would
Speaker 1: have all right, won't My one A will be Diggs
Speaker 1: and my one B will be his safety and Alabama,
Speaker 1: which is McKinney. They need both of them in Dallas.
Speaker 1: So if you can't get Diggs, go with McKinney as safety.
Speaker 1: All right, I'm going to assume Okuda and Henderson are
Speaker 1: gone and it's seventeen, it's digs for me. And if
Speaker 1: it's not Diggs, TCUs, Jeff Glatten, he's got a little
Speaker 1: track background as well, so so give me those. But
Speaker 1: I'm definitely sitting at corner a seventeen for the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: It is a position of need that gotta give Mike
Speaker 1: Knowling some help on that defense. They've already taken care
Speaker 1: of the offense. You've got a guy and Mike mccarthur
Speaker 1: who can help them there. They've got to fortify that defense.
Speaker 1: I don't care if they're scoring thirty a game and
Speaker 1: they're given up thirty four, but you've got to start
Speaker 1: to stop somebody. We're all in agreements. Man. They gotta
Speaker 1: go secondary on this one. It's a must secondary. They
Speaker 1: might get a round. I'm just playing the week. I'm
Speaker 1: just joking. I to say, man, kids started on this
Speaker 1: wide receiver. If you want to ride receiver, start thinking
Speaker 1: day three. Okay, day three the earliest. But because the
Speaker 1: Cowboys need oh see, you got me going now. The
Speaker 1: Cowboys need three guys in round one, two or three.
Speaker 1: They need three walking starters or guys who are gonna
Speaker 1: make some serious contributions this defense. Then he's man, hell, hell, hell, hell,
Speaker 1: help help us, all right, the hours flown by fellas.
Speaker 1: This is always fun thing to do here. So next
Speaker 1: Friday will dive heavily into the Cowboys first round pick.
Speaker 1: Hopefully they make it. Forget this Jamal Adam stuff. Okay
Speaker 1: Jamal and not giving up seventeen pick for Jamal, Lads,
Speaker 1: it's not happening. So hopefully we're talking about a quarter
Speaker 1: on Friday where we resume and do the players last.
Speaker 1: He's Danny mccraig. He's buried Church, I'm newly. We thank
Speaker 1: you so much for your time right here on the
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