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Speaker 1: Wild Ti to the He's on a slip exactly what's up,

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Speaker 1: y'all and welcome to Falcons final whistle. We are sitting here,

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Speaker 1: I am with Tory mclaney overlooking the field at Mercedes

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Speaker 1: Benz Stadium where the Atlanta Falcons dropped their season opener

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Speaker 1: twenty three to twenty to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And

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Speaker 1: Tory this game had a little bit of everything.

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Speaker 2: Just a little bit of everything, And honestly, I think

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Speaker 2: Raheem Morris said it best at his postgame press conference

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Speaker 2: when he was like typical Tampa Bay Atlanta Falcons game,

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Speaker 2: coming down to the wire. I feel like the last

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Speaker 2: what six years, honestly, every single one, something crazy has happened,

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Speaker 2: and this one is just like all the rest, And

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Speaker 2: I think you kind of do leave with a little

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Speaker 1: Though. Yeah, it's it's hard to say otherwise, but you're right.

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Speaker 1: Even games between these two teams, when it feels like

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Speaker 1: So when the Falcons were, you know, in the midst

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Speaker 1: featured many different official reviews and potential challenges and things

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Speaker 1: like that. I was just sitting there like, Yep, this

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Speaker 1: is exactly how we all figured it was going to play.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, well, NFL's officially back. There were

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Speaker 2: what like three or four challenges. Yeah, there were so

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Speaker 2: many reviews. Everything was all up in the air, and

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Speaker 2: then the Falcons you know, almost can't punch it in

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Speaker 1: That was dramatic.

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Speaker 2: I mean the whole the whole game, from start to finish.

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Speaker 2: There was something to talk about, and I know we

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Speaker 1: About a lot of it. Oh yeah, we're going to

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Speaker 1: get into it. And for as a brief reminder for

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Speaker 1: this season, we've got a little bit of a different

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Speaker 1: format to Falcons final whistle this year, Tory and I

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Speaker 1: are going to have four quarters of action. Each quarter

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Speaker 1: is going to take six minutes. When these six minutes

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Speaker 1: means that we have to move on to the next quarter.

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Speaker 1: No matter what we are talking about at that time. So, tour,

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Speaker 2: I'm so ready. I have a lot to say.

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Speaker 1: All right, well, let's go ahead and get into it

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Speaker 1: our first quarter. I want to talk about the proper

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Speaker 1: way to react to this game. Do you think the

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm absolutely overreacting, which, honestly, maybe it's even like

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Speaker 2: maybe the fans are listening right now and they're like, no,

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Speaker 2: that's the exact way to react.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of them do feel that way.

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Speaker 2: Probably, and honestly, I'm with them. I'm very much in

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Speaker 2: camp overreacting, because I think there were a lot of

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Speaker 2: Outside of that very first drive where you saw but

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Speaker 2: was a lot of inconsistencies by way of this offense,

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Speaker 2: whether it be penalties that just got them off track

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Speaker 2: I know we'll get more into that, but I think

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Speaker 2: just overall the offensive woes. I've been watching a lot

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Speaker 2: In the preseason, Michael Pennings Junior said during training camp

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Speaker 1: Oh little week one, but it's like, but no.

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Speaker 2: The expectation for this offense was better than what they

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Speaker 2: I just feel like what we saw today offensively was

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Speaker 1: I think that's totally fair, and I think the Falcons

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Speaker 2: Crazy.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy for two reasons. The fact that he didn't

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Speaker 2: Because that's the thing, is like, that's the bread and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's also part of the reason why II

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Speaker 1: leen on the underreaction side. And yes, I'm a natural

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Speaker 2: Well, when it comes to football, you're you see the

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Speaker 1: It's okay. I wish I could just transport that to

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Speaker 2: No, don't know Mooney either, Like you're talking about two

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Speaker 1: I think it was maybe I think it was right

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Speaker 1: Things like that, which are really hard and it's tough,

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna get better. And Sampall was a

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm but I'm also gonna put like continue

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Speaker 2: an entire story after the game. It's up on Atlanta

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Speaker 2: Falcons dot Com right now, going through basically Young Waiku's

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Speaker 2: entire career, but mainly focusing on the last two years especially,

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Speaker 2: that's not what you're worried about now.

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Speaker 1: No, absolutely, and there's our whistle. So we'll move on,

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Speaker 1: but we'll come back to that. We'll put a penning

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Speaker 1: So let's keep talking a little bit about Michael PENNOCKX junior.

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Speaker 1: He makes his first start in Week one, and I

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Speaker 1: thought he looked buy a large pretty good out there, Tori.

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Speaker 2: I thought he did too. I thought he handled the

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Speaker 1: There was kind of a scramble drill where he was

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Speaker 1: those are the little nuances that, yeah, you can make

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think overall, like I'm not sitting here. Kind

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Speaker 2: of to me, the problem amongst the offense like didn't necessarily,

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Speaker 2: just some issues that happened around Michael PENNOCKX that I

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Speaker 2: and I will say that, like even in kind of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought that that diving touchdown from Michael Pennix.

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Speaker 1: I think that's indicative at all of I mean, we

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the fact that we're sitting here talking

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Speaker 1: I didn't know Kayleb mcgarey was that good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, how many times did they even run

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Speaker 2: And I think that speaks to maybe a lack of

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Speaker 2: they did run it behind Matthew Bergron and Jake Matthews

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So the fact that they come out in this game

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Speaker 1: Worrisome, absolutely, and I again I think that this is

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Speaker 2: Classic Exavier. For tho, I wish people knew him more,

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Speaker 1: He does. He's like he's the Eme epitome of moving silence.

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Speaker 2: He really is. But he I mean, he quietly won

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to Can we pull out for one second?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I mean, I guess I go back

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Speaker 2: I both kind of talked about It's like is there

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Speaker 2: I think that even not even that, like the leaking

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Speaker 2: But like, and I think, like that goes to I mean,

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Speaker 2: punch a ball out, like if anything like that happens,

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Speaker 2: maybe I feel a little bit different. But it was

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Speaker 2: just a little bit of like, Okay, they had their moments,

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Speaker 1: It's well said, yeah, it's kind of like you need

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Speaker 1: He was great.

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Speaker 2: He was so fun to watch. I think we and

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Speaker 1: Was heavenly he was, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Or if you were Tampa Bay.

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Speaker 2: No, Divine Diablo. I think we've been talking so much

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Speaker 2: it just made it really difficult for I think honestly,

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Speaker 1: against man coverage and everybody had their backs. Then the

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Speaker 1: left a wide open thing. Some of the deep touchdowns, right, like,

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Speaker 1: not a great day for my cues. Got to pick

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Speaker 1: it up, got to clean up moving forward. But by

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Speaker 1: and large, like I thought, the pass rush was pretty effective.

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Speaker 1: Next Gen Stats had a stat here where nine different

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Speaker 1: defenders for Atlanta generated at least one pressure and three

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Speaker 1: guys had at least four pressures, including Divine Diablo Ye,

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Speaker 1: this was his first career game with four pressures, which

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Speaker 1: is awesome. Rukeroro and James Pierce Junior got four pressures today,

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Speaker 1: So that's that's a huge benefit, right, Like we're leaving

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Speaker 1: last season being like man pass rush once again number

447
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Speaker 1: one thing for the offseason, and it's just week one.

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Speaker 1: Not gonna say it's been fixed, but I do think

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Speaker 1: you saw the pass rush give the secondary those opportunities

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Speaker 1: to create the turnovers. Yes, they didn't create the turnovers,

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Speaker 1: but if I have to imagine something will continue and

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Speaker 1: track throughout the season, it's maybe that part of the equation,

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Speaker 1: and then you hope that the after the equals sign,

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Speaker 1: it's equals one turnover.

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Speaker 2: I'll say this, like, I know it's not one to

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Speaker 2: one or Apple's oranges or whatever of saying is, but

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Speaker 2: like I feel better about the defense's Week one performance

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Speaker 2: and what it could build up to more than I

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Speaker 2: do the offenses week one performance.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I think that's a totally fair spot to end up.

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Speaker 1: And so let's head on to our fourth quarter, and

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Speaker 1: this is going to be talking a little bit about

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Speaker 1: what we need to see get cleaned up before their

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Speaker 1: Week two massive matchup, which is another big one on

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Speaker 1: the road in one of the toughest places, if not

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Speaker 1: maybe the toughest place to play in the NFL in Minnesota. So, Tory,

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Speaker 1: what's one of the things you need to see them

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Speaker 1: get kind of cleaned up?

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Speaker 2: Well, first off, it has to be figuring out the

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Speaker 2: run game. I cannot stress enough how much. And it

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Speaker 2: goes back actually to something I said in our Friday

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Speaker 2: five podcast where I was like, a young quarterback's best

473
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Speaker 2: friend is a consistent run game. And tonight today, this Sunday,

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Speaker 2: the Falcons were not consistently running the ball. They were

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Speaker 2: struggling to run the ball. I believe the longest run

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Speaker 2: today was a twelve yard or from Michael Pennix and

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Speaker 2: it was just like scramble like honestly, the fact that

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Speaker 2: like Jeon Robinson only averaged two yards per carry on

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Speaker 2: the ground, Tyler Algier two point four yards per carry,

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Speaker 2: I mean it. And I think I even asked Rahim

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Speaker 2: Morris this question after the game. I was like, you know,

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Speaker 2: how do you what do you do about this like,

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Speaker 2: I like this offensive line. It didn't seem like there

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Speaker 2: were many holes for Bajon Robinson or Tyler Algier to

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Speaker 2: run through or even like it just seemed like they

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Speaker 2: were getting hit at the point, like their point of

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Speaker 2: contact was right at the line of scrimmage. And when

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Speaker 2: that happens, it's like it even someone as elusive as

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Speaker 2: Bjeon Robinson, even someone as bowling ball esque as Tyler Algier,

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Speaker 2: if you have two guys meeting you at the line

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Speaker 2: of scrimmage, there's not a whole lot you can do.

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Speaker 2: And I think that happened too often in this game.

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Speaker 2: So asking Rahim Morris about it, and he's like, you know,

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Speaker 2: especially with the backs that we have, we've got to

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Speaker 2: figure out ways to get the ball moving on the

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Speaker 2: ground because ultimately that opens things up for Michael PENNOCKX

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Speaker 2: in the past game, especially if you consider that, Look,

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Speaker 2: we don't know what's gonna happen with Darnell Mooney or

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Speaker 2: Drake London at this point. Both of them are working

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Speaker 2: through these shoulder injuries that we really don't know the

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Speaker 2: full extent of. And if you're not going to have

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Speaker 2: your top two pass catchers in those guys. Yeah, there

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Speaker 2: are gonna be other guys stepping in, but for what

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Speaker 2: those two guys have been for this organization in the

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Speaker 2: last year, to not have them on the field with

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Speaker 2: Michael Pennox like that just puts a lot of pressure elsewhere,

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Speaker 2: and you can alleviate some of that pressure if the

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Speaker 2: run game can get going, And that to me is like,

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Speaker 2: more than anything else, that was my biggest concern today.

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Speaker 2: Is Like I went into today being like, Okay, they'll

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Speaker 2: get their yards on the ground, that's not something you

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Speaker 2: have to worry about. But then I walk away from

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Speaker 2: it being like, no, I'm a bit concerned about the

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Speaker 2: lack of being able to run the ball consistently here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it just seemed like the line of scrimmage was

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Speaker 1: really muddled and like woah, just yeah, like there were

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Speaker 1: a lot of bodies down there.

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Speaker 2: It was very clocked.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, that's the word I was looking for. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know sometimes like in the middle of a podcasts

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Speaker 1: you're like, oh, what's that word? Then you get that

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Speaker 1: look on your face and you just saw it from me.

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Speaker 1: So thank you for stepping in there. But I would

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Speaker 1: be really curious to go maybe this is a good

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Speaker 1: project for us tomorrow or Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: Is absolutely my plan for nine to thirty tomorrow morning.

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Speaker 1: There you go, Let's let's look at like, so there's

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Speaker 1: a stat yards before contacts, right, Let's look at the

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Speaker 1: yards before contact last season and what Atlanta averaged, and

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Speaker 1: let's see what they did today, because I do think

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Speaker 1: like this is where the loss of Kayla McGarry really hurts,

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Speaker 1: because their bread and butter really is that outside zone

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Speaker 1: to the right. Yes, and so if you're if you're

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Speaker 1: gonna be down a guard or a center or something,

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Speaker 1: maybe you can mitigate that a little bit and you

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Speaker 1: you're still able to gain the edge and kind of

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Speaker 1: create that wall down the sideline. But they they kind

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Speaker 1: of weren't doing that.

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Speaker 2: At all, didn't do it any It was I can't.

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Speaker 1: I mean without yeah the film classic coach answer over here,

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Speaker 1: but I know.

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Speaker 2: But seriously, like I'm sitting here trying to think.

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Speaker 1: And record, there was a lot of if they're running

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Speaker 1: to the right, it was a lot of like a gap,

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Speaker 1: a gap, B gap, but mostly a gap stuff. And

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Speaker 1: here's where it's really hurtful too, is like if you're

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Speaker 1: thinking about they were running a lot of rollouts and

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Speaker 1: stuff early on. Imagine a stretchtone to your right going

549
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Speaker 1: behind Kleb with a play action boot to your left.

550
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Speaker 1: Like that's kind of setting it up perfectly for both

551
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Speaker 1: elements of your offense, and at least in this game,

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Speaker 1: they didn't have that. So we'll see if they make

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Speaker 1: any tweaks there. But I think now is the right

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Speaker 1: time to bring it back to the kicking game and

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Speaker 1: maybe we'll wrap it up on like that's an aspect

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Speaker 1: that we do have to get cleaned up sooner rather

557
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Speaker 1: than later, because this is the NFL, and more often

558
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Speaker 1: than not, you're gonna have a game come right down

559
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Speaker 1: to the wire and it's gonna be a one possession game.

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Speaker 1: I saw Cincinnati beat Cleveland by one point today, Right,

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Speaker 1: that's a game that you would have never ever thought

562
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Speaker 1: those two teams are going to be that tight. But

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Speaker 1: that's what this leak is. And so you have to

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Speaker 1: have somebody that you can trust with beyond a shadow

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Speaker 1: of a doubt. We're going out there, we're making this

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Speaker 1: and forever that has been Young Waiku, And so I

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Speaker 1: understand why Raheem Morris wants to see that from him

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Speaker 1: again because he's seen it for such a long time,

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Speaker 1: but you know, at the end of the day, this

570
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Speaker 1: is a results oriented business and you're zero to one. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: partially because of that.

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Speaker 2: And I said this in my story postgame. It's like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: you go back to what Raheem Moore said during training

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Speaker 2: camp when he was talking about the competition between Young

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Speaker 2: Wayku and Linny Creek, and he kind of alluded to

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Speaker 2: the fact that they're really like, yes, there's a competition,

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Speaker 2: but it's Young Wayku's race to win. And he just said,

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Speaker 2: KU's got some emotional bank accounts with me, and I'll

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Speaker 2: just leave it at that. That's all well and good,

580
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Speaker 2: And I understand the emotional bank accounts to have about

581
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Speaker 2: Young waykup like what Jake Matthew says.

582
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Speaker 1: I've gotten account opened up with him, right.

583
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Speaker 2: But the problem with having an emotional bank account is

584
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Speaker 2: if it's not being replenished with new checks being cash,

585
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Speaker 2: where's that cup credit, where's the coup credit? There is

586
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Speaker 2: no coup credit at this point right now, if we're

587
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Speaker 2: going on, we're in the hole right now. Over the

588
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Speaker 2: course of last year and then now this evening with

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Speaker 2: a miss from forty four yards, which is again to

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Speaker 2: Raym's point, that's a kick you should make. That is

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00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,439
Speaker 2: a that is one you should make. And at this league,

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Speaker 2: in this level, in these situations, that's why you get

593
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Speaker 2: paid the money you do. And I know that, Like

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Speaker 2: I try not to be like super super hard on

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Speaker 2: especially kickers, because of the nature of their jobs. A. J.

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Speaker 1: Terrell put it really well. He was like, it's literally

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Speaker 1: either just good or bad. Right, there's no great, there's

598
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Speaker 1: no man I messed up, but the ball went somebody

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Speaker 1: somewhere else this place, so thank god it didn't come

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Speaker 1: to me. There's no like I missed my block, but

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Speaker 1: somebody else got it because.

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Speaker 2: They were They're like, it's so difficult to like really

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Speaker 2: truly like even like hold kickers accountable because it feels

604
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:43,360
Speaker 2: sometimes icky. But ultimately, for Atlanta, the facts are what

605
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 2: they are, and you don't feel the confidence that this

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Speaker 2: check is going to be cashed moving forward, and that's

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Speaker 2: the issue.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, And there's only only one way to get that

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Speaker 1: confidence back, and it's to go out there and make

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Speaker 1: the kicks. So we will be tracking this throughout the week,

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Speaker 1: what is up with with Atlanta's kicking game, the run

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Speaker 1: game and z But that is all we've got for

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Speaker 1: you today from Mercedes Benz Stadium, a twenty three to

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Speaker 1: twenty lost to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. For Tory mclaney,

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Speaker 1: I'm Will McFadden. We will see you all next time.

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Speaker 1: Take care,