WEBVTT - Jags A.M. Podcast Ep. 143 | Answering Fan Questions on Draft Eve 0:00:18.480 --> 0:00:21.640 Welcome into Jags Am in the PM today. I'm Kindannie Stevens. 0:00:21.720 --> 0:00:23.720 We are very excited. It's draft. We are a little 0:00:23.720 --> 0:00:26.479 over twenty four hours away from the beginning the twenty 0:00:26.480 --> 0:00:29.560 twenty five NFL Draft. Ran Sexton is in Wisconsin. We're 0:00:29.600 --> 0:00:31.120 gonna get a live report for him a little bit 0:00:31.200 --> 0:00:32.800 later on in the show to see what's going on 0:00:33.159 --> 0:00:35.360 as the Jags get ready to make that fifth pick 0:00:35.400 --> 0:00:37.840 in the draft. Let's start out with our big things though, John, 0:00:37.880 --> 0:00:40.240 you're here with me today, run away as at this point, 0:00:40.280 --> 0:00:41.879 we've looked at the odds. John, I don't know if 0:00:41.880 --> 0:00:44.640 you're a betting man, but the casinos have Ashton genty 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:46.680 as the most likely pick for the Jaguars. This is 0:00:46.720 --> 0:00:48.800 something you and I have been discussing. You've been talking 0:00:48.800 --> 0:00:51.760 about for weeks now. So is that confirmed? Are we 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:53.880 sure about that? Or is that just what we think 0:00:54.000 --> 0:00:54.760 is gonna happen? Oh? 0:00:54.800 --> 0:00:58.840 My sure, I'm not sure on anything point. And anybody 0:00:58.840 --> 0:01:03.920 who says they are outside of Liam Cohen and James Glasstone, 0:01:03.920 --> 0:01:07.520 Tony Viselli and the cons, they're not. And even they 0:01:07.520 --> 0:01:08.920 don't know because they don't know how the draft board 0:01:08.959 --> 0:01:11.240 is gonna fall in front of them for weeks. This 0:01:11.319 --> 0:01:14.880 has been Mason Graham's spot for about six weeks. I've 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:19.200 been saying, look, there's no you know, leaning toward Graham 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:22.800 et Mason Graham being the defensive tackle from Michigan. This 0:01:22.840 --> 0:01:27.440 is pretty wide open. I kind of think if I 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:31.800 was predicting, I would predict genty, but I wouldn't bet 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:32.760 anybody's house on it. 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:35.480 Okay, no betting for John Then as for big thing 0:01:35.560 --> 0:01:37.160 number two, it's going to be trade off. Part of 0:01:37.160 --> 0:01:39.039 why this is so hard to predict is because there 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:41.240 haven't been any trades in the first round leading up 0:01:41.280 --> 0:01:42.800 to this. This is the latest we've gotten in the 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:45.800 modern draft era, with every team entering the first round 0:01:46.120 --> 0:01:48.639 with their original picked on. What does that say about 0:01:48.640 --> 0:01:50.960 this draft class? I know that there's kind of maybe 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:53.240 three to five prospects people are really feel like they're 0:01:53.280 --> 0:01:55.800 sure about, and then kind of a middle ground there. 0:01:55.840 --> 0:01:57.440 So what is it saying about people not making a 0:01:57.440 --> 0:01:58.400 lot of moves at this point? 0:01:58.480 --> 0:02:01.200 Yeah? I wish I had a fear that I've been 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:04.680 thinking about it, and I don't really have one, which 0:02:04.680 --> 0:02:07.240 doesn't make great for TV. I do know at the 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:10.400 top teams usually wait if they're gonna deal for the 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:14.520 number one pick, you know, or I should say, if 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:15.920 you're gonna deal for the number one pick, you do 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:17.880 it early. But the Titans clue don't want to trade out. 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:22.920 It sort of tells me more about that there haven't 0:02:22.960 --> 0:02:26.360 been a lot of moves in the past leading up 0:02:26.400 --> 0:02:29.720 to this, and I think maybe teams might be leaning 0:02:29.720 --> 0:02:34.400 a little more toward trying to keep picks. Meaning sometimes 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:37.359 you might have seen a trade last year involving a 0:02:37.440 --> 0:02:40.520 number one this year and it lingers into this. So 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:45.919 it may be more philosophical about teams trying to hold 0:02:45.960 --> 0:02:48.760 on to their equity and not wanting to tip their 0:02:48.800 --> 0:02:51.040 hand too soon. Or maybe they're not sure with the 0:02:51.120 --> 0:02:54.320 nil stuff going on in college that they can predict 0:02:54.400 --> 0:02:57.280 who's coming out yet. It also may just be a 0:02:57.280 --> 0:02:58.840 one year fluke, which sometimes happens. 0:02:59.120 --> 0:03:00.920 And of course we can always some action on the 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:02.720 actual day of the draft as well, so we'll keep 0:03:02.720 --> 0:03:04.480 an eye on things. Our final big thing today is 0:03:04.520 --> 0:03:05.680 going to be setting in the tone. 0:03:05.960 --> 0:03:06.200 John. 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:08.520 We talked a lot about this new front office. This 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:10.640 is their first draft class that they're going to be having, 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:13.240 how important it is to the franchise, but also how 0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:14.639 much are we going to be able to take out 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:16.600 of the moves here to kind of predict what this 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:19.160 will be like going forward With James Gladstone as GM. 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:22.359 Yeah, I think it's fascinating. James Gladstone. I think at 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:24.280 the pre draft luncheon a couple of weeks ago, talked 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:27.200 about this and said, you know, yeah, with a number 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:30.360 five pick, there is a thought that that person is 0:03:30.400 --> 0:03:33.160 going to be a front of the media guide type 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:36.760 player as you go forward. Some people read a lot 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:38.600 into that and said, well, are they going after a 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:42.080 certain position with that? I don't think it necessarily indicates position. 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:44.800 I think it indicates that this is a new regime 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:48.200 and you want to get started right Beyond the fifth pick, though, 0:03:48.240 --> 0:03:52.000 I think this draft is important for this reason. James Gladstone, 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:54.640 coming from the Rams, has a little different view and 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:59.560 a little different philosophy about the entire draft. So I 0:03:59.560 --> 0:04:03.040 think once you get through Day three on Saturday and 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:06.320 you look at the whole mosaic of this thing for 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:08.480 the first time in a long time, I'm very interested 0:04:08.480 --> 0:04:11.400 to see what that whole class looks like and what 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:15.200 it says about how he but by extension, the staff 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:18.120 is going to pick players moving forward, because it's a 0:04:18.120 --> 0:04:20.280 different world than do ball. As they say, or as 0:04:20.320 --> 0:04:21.200 I say, as. 0:04:21.160 --> 0:04:23.279 John says, it's different world. In Dovall, we're very excited. 0:04:23.320 --> 0:04:25.160 We're going to have a live report coming up after 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:26.920 the break from Green Bay as we. 0:04:26.880 --> 0:04:40.360 Get ready for the draft that kicks off tomorrow. 0:04:45.120 --> 0:04:47.240 Jag Am in the PM today, brought to you by 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:50.920 Fresh from Florida. It is always in season. John Oder 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:53.240 and I are here in the Miller Electric Center in 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:55.479 Florida holding it down in Douvall. But we have a 0:04:55.560 --> 0:04:59.120 crew out in Green Bay, and unfortunately the Florida weather 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:01.320 did not travel with that her. It's kind of rainy. 0:05:01.360 --> 0:05:03.800 So Brian Sexton's going to join us and let us 0:05:03.880 --> 0:05:06.640 know how things in Wisconsin are going. Brian, you look sad. 0:05:06.760 --> 0:05:08.480 You look a little sad that you're not in ployant 0:05:08.560 --> 0:05:08.840 right now. 0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:10.880 You know what I was just thinking. 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:12.919 I was thinking that instead of Green Bay, we should 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:15.080 have done this in Tampa Bay and I could be 0:05:15.120 --> 0:05:17.239 standing with my feet in the surf and the sand 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:18.320 on Saint Pete. 0:05:18.000 --> 0:05:18.920 Beach to do this. 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:22.760 In all seriousness, the people in Northern Wisconsin are very 0:05:22.800 --> 0:05:25.400 proud to have the NFL Draft here. This is a 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:27.600 very if you've been to Green Bay, you understand a 0:05:27.839 --> 0:05:30.560 very small market. There's not a lot of infrastructure, so 0:05:30.560 --> 0:05:34.800 there are people spread out between here and Milwaukee. They 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:37.599 have jumped through hoops kind of like some of the 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:40.440 old school Jags fans in Jacksonville. People might remember what 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:42.440 we had to do to have Super Bowl thirty nine 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:45.440 in Jacksonville twenty years ago with the cruise ships and 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:48.159 the tents for restaurants. They're kind of doing the exact 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:50.479 same thing. Of course, they have the Crown Jewel, one 0:05:50.520 --> 0:05:53.240 of the most historical sites in the National Football League. 0:05:53.480 --> 0:05:57.240 They've got lambeau Field, and we see Title Town everywhere 0:05:57.720 --> 0:06:01.080 and interesting side note, we're staying in Title Town, which 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:04.760 is sort of an office park, right. There's restaurants, there's retail, 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:09.400 there's literally office buildings and condos, and you can kind 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:12.560 of see the vision for what the cons want to 0:06:12.600 --> 0:06:16.560 do around the stadium in Jacksonville, kind of like they've 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:19.360 done in Foxborough where you hail from, and what the 0:06:20.000 --> 0:06:22.840 Craft family did with Patriot Place. So it's kind of 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:25.440 an interesting mix. And of course, when you're in Green Bay, 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:29.560 the history is just in front of you at all times. 0:06:29.560 --> 0:06:31.840 Definitely gonna be a cool venue for the draft. Brian, 0:06:32.400 --> 0:06:35.880 some prospects. There's some events going on right now. We 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:39.000 know that most of the predicted top five picks are 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:41.840 going to be in Green Bay, so that's exciting. What 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:44.120 have you seen so far and what's going on the 0:06:44.120 --> 0:06:45.440 rest of the day and tomorrow. 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:49.479 Well, we were out on the play sixty field where 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:52.040 they do an event with the prospects and local kids 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:54.400 and special Olympians, and so I had a chance to 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:57.919 run down Travis. Hunter asked him, and you'll see this later, 0:06:58.360 --> 0:07:01.720 asked him corner wide receiver. He just smiled and said both. 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:03.440 I said, you're sticking with that one? He goes, why 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:07.040 wouldn't I? Andre Carter smiled when I brought up Breton 0:07:07.080 --> 0:07:08.880 Strange and talked a little bit about Penn State and 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:11.120 how it got him ready to be a pro A 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:14.960 great conversation with Ashton Genty said that he was well. 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:17.160 When I said, what have you heard from Jacksonville, he 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:20.000 smiled and said duve all and talked a little bit 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:23.200 about being compared to Maurice Jones Drew and then I 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:28.120 asked Tat McMillan, the wide receiver from Arizona, about Jacksonville 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:30.000 and what he had heard, and well, he had a 0:07:30.000 --> 0:07:33.080 great answer. He said, has anybody heard from Jacksonville? Did 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:36.520 anybody talk to Jacksonville? Of course, famously, we know the 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:40.680 Jaguars didn't do those thirty or thirty interviews, and it 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:43.160 made it very interesting. Everyone got a good laugh out 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:44.800 of that. But he did mention that he had talked 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:47.880 to them at the combine. He understood the situation with 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:52.040 Liam Cohen, the comparisons to Mike Evans Brian Thomas Junior 0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:54.160 on the other side. So we got a chance to 0:07:54.240 --> 0:07:55.760 run some of them down. And of course we also 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:58.920 talked to Mason Graham, who talked a little bit about 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:01.720 those two outside Russ and what it would mean for him. 0:08:01.960 --> 0:08:05.040 He's an interesting body style. He's not very tall, but 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:09.680 man is he wide and he's got the biggest forearms 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:12.400 on any player I think I have ever seen, just 0:08:12.640 --> 0:08:15.680 massive arms. He was a wrestler in California growing up 0:08:15.680 --> 0:08:18.080 in high school and you could definitely see it in 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:19.360 his forearms, in his hands. 0:08:20.480 --> 0:08:22.080 Brian, we were just talking, right. I was talking to 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:24.440 John about how there's been no trades thus far. Everybody 0:08:24.440 --> 0:08:27.680 has their original first round pick, which is kind of unusual. 0:08:27.800 --> 0:08:29.920 Usually somebody's made a move by this point. But have 0:08:29.960 --> 0:08:32.199 you heard any has there any rumblings up there? Does 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:34.240 everybody feel like maybe we'll just figure it out on 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:34.800 draft bite? 0:08:36.160 --> 0:08:38.760 Well, I talked to Daniel Jeremiah and Charles Davis from 0:08:38.760 --> 0:08:41.280 the NFL Network, and they think this is a great 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:44.200 draft to build a roster front. There are lots of 0:08:44.240 --> 0:08:48.440 potential starters, there are lots of potential roster fillers, but 0:08:48.480 --> 0:08:50.760 there's not a lot of stars. As we know. There 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:54.680 are three elite players everybody's in on Andre Carter, Travis Hunter, 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:59.280 and Ashton Genty, But it's not a roster pardon me. 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:01.880 He's not a draft that is loaded with star players 0:09:01.880 --> 0:09:04.200 from the top of the first round on. So I 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:07.600 think that's why you haven't seen that many trades. Teams 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:09.720 are looking at the value of the picks, as John 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:11.880 alluded to in the A block, and they want to 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:15.440 hold onto those picks, and they're from pick nine to 0:09:15.559 --> 0:09:19.800 probably pick ninety nine. It's the flavor that you like, right, 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:22.280 I mean, are you're looking for a tall receiver, Are 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:26.880 you're looking for a short, powerful defensive tackle. What fits 0:09:26.960 --> 0:09:30.680 your offensive and defensive schemes? What fits the style of 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:32.760 player and the culture that you've got in the building. 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:35.800 And there's just not a lot of differentiation there. Not 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:37.640 to say that it's not a good draft, but it 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:40.839 doesn't have enough star power to draw people into giving 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:44.240 up good quality picks for guys that will be starters 0:09:44.280 --> 0:09:46.520 for them over time to move up and grab a 0:09:46.520 --> 0:09:47.719 player that doesn't have that. 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:50.800 Brian, what do you know about Draft night? How's it 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:52.160 set up? Is it going to be on the field 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:54.200 at Lamber or what are we going to visually be 0:09:54.280 --> 0:09:55.400 seeing tomorrow? 0:09:56.080 --> 0:10:00.679 You know, we were headed over to the Atrium to 0:10:00.679 --> 0:10:02.840 to go on that tour when the rain broke and 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:04.920 we went running for the car. So I don't know 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:09.080 we're gonna go. You know, listen on Draft night they 0:10:09.200 --> 0:10:12.719 keep us in a media room far away. I mean, 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:15.439 this thing is it's an interesting dynamic of the way 0:10:15.440 --> 0:10:18.280 they've set it up with sponsors and prospects and fans. 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:20.000 So we haven't had a chance to see it. 0:10:20.040 --> 0:10:20.520 I do know this. 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:23.080 There is a stage set up in the parking lot. 0:10:23.120 --> 0:10:25.200 On the other side you can see Lambeau Field. On 0:10:25.240 --> 0:10:28.200 the other side is where the stage is set up 0:10:28.240 --> 0:10:31.640 like it was in Detroit last year in Kansas City 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:34.079 and in Vegas. So that's where the big scene will come. 0:10:34.120 --> 0:10:37.960 In the parking lot of lambeau Field, you know where 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:41.560 the rest of the show is. Well, we're gonna have 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:44.280 to go sneak around and find our way in. Every 0:10:44.360 --> 0:10:46.679 year we managed to get where we're not supposed to be, 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:49.319 So hopefully by the time I join you tomorrow night, 0:10:49.640 --> 0:10:52.640 we'll have seen things and done things that most people 0:10:53.200 --> 0:10:53.800 don't get to do. 0:10:54.040 --> 0:10:56.360 Sneaky, sneaky. All right, before I let you go, what's 0:10:56.400 --> 0:10:58.480 your prediction. Who do you think they're gonna take in 0:10:58.480 --> 0:10:59.080 the first round. 0:11:00.840 --> 0:11:02.880 I still think it's an offensive player, and I think 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:05.640 if they stay at five genty makes the most sense. 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:07.640 And I think if they back up, if someone's willing 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:12.240 to give them something to come up, I think Ted McMillan. 0:11:11.880 --> 0:11:12.800 Makes a lot of sense. 0:11:13.160 --> 0:11:14.800 Somewhere nine, ten to eleven. 0:11:14.800 --> 0:11:17.280 I think that's definitely a possibility. Thanks, Brian, we'll talk 0:11:17.280 --> 0:11:17.880 to you again soon. 0:11:19.200 --> 0:11:20.480 You got to have a great show. 0:11:21.880 --> 0:11:24.240 That it's our live report from Wisconsin. We are happy 0:11:24.280 --> 0:11:26.520 to be in Florida after looking at that weather, but 0:11:28.000 --> 0:11:29.920 it's gonna be a good one. We'll do our predictions 0:11:29.920 --> 0:11:33.200 a little bit later on, but yeah, we'll check back 0:11:33.240 --> 0:11:34.040 in with you. Let's stay with us. 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:34.600 We're gonna do an. 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:37.200 Ozone mail bag after the break right here on Jacksam 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:50.160 and the PM. Move the Freight, Move the Freight. Magellan 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:53.200 Transport voted the coolest office space in Jacksonville. Apply online 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:55.760 at Magellanlogistics dot com. 0:11:58.480 --> 0:11:58.800 French. 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:06.680 Do a little ozone mail bag today for those of 0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:08.560 you that do the word ale on the New York Times. 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:10.200 You might want to skip ahead because I'm gonna spoil 0:12:10.280 --> 0:12:14.599 it for today. Ozone is the answer it is. I 0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:16.560 don't know if you paid for that sponsorship or if 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:18.679 they just knew the draft was coming up so they 0:12:18.760 --> 0:12:21.240 just knew it. It was a nice time. I appreciated it. 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:23.920 Let's get to our first Ozone question for you. This 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:26.800 explains a little bit, helps helps us go into things. 0:12:26.800 --> 0:12:29.360 Michael from Michael from Arlington's As I know, I don't 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:31.120 get paid the big money to be a general manager, 0:12:31.160 --> 0:12:33.240 but if they pick Ashton genty, I have no more 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:35.880 faith in the leadership. Nothing against Ashton, but there's no 0:12:36.000 --> 0:12:37.840 value at number five for him on a team with 0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:41.079 as many needs as we have. Try and try and 0:12:41.080 --> 0:12:41.679 break it down for. 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:45.360 Me, Well, it might take more time than this show has. 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:52.920 But but I think because so many people watch all 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:57.480 the draft stuff and they hear people talk about positional value, right, 0:12:58.120 --> 0:13:00.800 And there's been such a trend and I've leave in 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:03.760 in positional value because you have to and positional value. 0:13:03.760 --> 0:13:05.520 At the top of the draft is offensive line, and 0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:09.920 it's quarterback. They don't need a quarterback defensive line. So 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:11.760 there's been sort of a thing, Well, if the Jaguars 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:14.000 are building up their line, they have all these needs, 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:19.319 then they should draft a offensive lineman or a defensive 0:13:19.360 --> 0:13:22.520 tackle or quation. All the time, why don't they draft 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:26.160 a position. The problem with the draft and thinking of 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:29.120 it that way is you can't think of the draft 0:13:29.160 --> 0:13:32.880 as we're going to go draft a offensive lineman. It's 0:13:33.360 --> 0:13:36.400 which offensive linemen are you bringing into your building? At 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:39.840 some point, the actual guy walks through the door and 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:44.520 he's the player you got. In this case, I would 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:46.800 love and I think they would too. By the way, 0:13:46.880 --> 0:13:49.440 if there was an offensive lineman that they loved or 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:53.040 a defensive lineman that they loved, and by and by loved, 0:13:53.040 --> 0:13:56.160 I mean if they thought that it was a guy 0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:57.719 who was going to the Hall of fame or had 0:13:57.720 --> 0:14:00.400 those traits. If it's Genty, and I don't know who 0:14:00.400 --> 0:14:02.720 it's going to be, but if it's Genty, the reason 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:06.080 they would take him is because his value is so 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:09.480 much higher than the offensive line, where the defensive lineman 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:13.320 or whatever. And at some point you want greatness on 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:15.400 your team. So I don't know who they're going to pick, 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:17.720 but if they pick Genty, or if they if they 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:20.480 pick Travis Hunter, whoever they pick, it will be because 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:23.480 they think he has the most great traits and the 0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:28.880 ability to impact everything much more. They would like more guys. 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:32.800 What did BTJ feel like last year when he played? 0:14:33.120 --> 0:14:37.800 You felt like greatness? They would like that as opposed 0:14:37.840 --> 0:14:40.880 to really really good and solid. They feel like they 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:41.960 need greatness on this team. 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:44.320 I think that's hard to turn down because if he's 0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:46.520 going to be what people predict him to be, that's 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:47.680 pretty hard to pass along. 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:51.320 And that's gonna be the fundamental reason everybody's going to ask, well, 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:54.720 why did they do this? Cut through everything else? Whoever 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:57.280 they pick at five, it's because they think that he's 0:14:57.360 --> 0:14:59.480 that guy more than the others. 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:02.560 Absolutely, let's go to a scooter from Saint Augustine. He's 0:15:02.640 --> 0:15:04.640 talking a little bit about last year's draft, So he says, 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:07.120 Mason Smith and Jordan Jefferson were drafted in the second 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:09.600 fourth round last year. Seems like the draft and development 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:12.440 should not be looking for another interior defensive lineman. 0:15:12.760 --> 0:15:16.640 Yeah, and this is sort of a Mason a Mason 0:15:16.680 --> 0:15:20.280 Graham oriented question. I think every time you see Mason 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:22.720 Graham projected at the top, which has been a lot, 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:25.920 I get questions, well, why would they take him? If 0:15:25.960 --> 0:15:28.480 you've already got Mason Smith, you already got Jordan Jefferson, 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:33.040 you're moving Armstead in again. I think the fundamental thing 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:35.600 that's hard to talk to people about the draft sometimes 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:40.280 is so many analysts and so many fans want to 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:43.520 talk about, well, what do they need? Well, if you 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:46.480 look at the depth chart, they probably don't need a 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:50.000 devensive tackle. The reason you would draft Mason Graham the 0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:52.680 same reason you would draft Gente. Do you think this 0:15:52.760 --> 0:15:55.680 is greatness you're bringing in? You know, and you're not 0:15:55.880 --> 0:15:59.200 drafting on your depth chart for twenty twenty five in 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:01.800 the first round. You want to be drafting does this 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:04.640 guy become a pillar of our franchise for the next 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:08.280 X number of years? So when thinking about the draft 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:12.240 as much as you can take, try to take what 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:14.880 do they need in the short term out of it 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:18.040 and think how can we get our roster to be great. 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:21.040 The good teams draft in that, you know, the Baltimore's 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:23.760 of the world, try to draft more toward that than 0:16:23.800 --> 0:16:24.680 their short term need. 0:16:25.160 --> 0:16:26.880 I feel like we talked a lot about this last year, John, 0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:29.760 where it's like some of the teams we play, they 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:32.000 have those great players where if things are going wrong 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:34.320 or even if they're going well, it's like they are 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:36.480 dependable to a fault and if you need to put 0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:38.080 it on their back, you can do that. And the 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:40.600 Jags just haven't had that when they needed it. 0:16:40.720 --> 0:16:42.240 I always kind of go back to the Philly game 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:44.520 last year, right, you know, Yeah, Philly won the Super Bowl. 0:16:44.560 --> 0:16:49.320 The Jargons a four and thirteen. In that game, you 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:52.640 didn't feel a huge difference in flow. JAS had a 0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:55.040 chance to win at the end. To me, when I 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:58.240 think about that game, I think about Barkley flying backward 0:16:58.480 --> 0:17:02.480 over Jarian. There are other plays he made though Jalen 0:17:02.520 --> 0:17:06.280 Hurts and DeVante Smith made a huge play in that 0:17:06.400 --> 0:17:10.920 play that was above the x's and o's. Right now, 0:17:11.119 --> 0:17:15.520 Brian Thomas Junior is there above the x's and o's guy, 0:17:15.600 --> 0:17:19.359 so it felt I don't cover Phillies. I don't know 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:22.080 the death of their roster. A lot of special in 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:25.080 some spots in that lineup. I feel like the Jaguars 0:17:25.119 --> 0:17:26.880 want to come out of this draft with more special. 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:31.600 Absolutely, let's go to Jay Hooks from Orange Park, says Ozone. 0:17:31.600 --> 0:17:33.840 I loved the Tony interview. Great work. Do you expect 0:17:33.920 --> 0:17:35.440 big Bo to be in the draft room for the 0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:38.680 entire draft? My understanding is he doesn't deal with personnel decisions. 0:17:38.680 --> 0:17:41.240 Will he just be an observer or will he have input? 0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:47.640 Well, he's going to be there, and would I would 0:17:47.960 --> 0:17:51.719 project Bisselli's influence to be very much along the lines 0:17:51.760 --> 0:18:00.800 of offering input when appropriate. Is he gonna be in 0:18:00.840 --> 0:18:03.480 the draft room making the final call, banging on the 0:18:03.480 --> 0:18:07.639 table telling Gladstone we're picking this guy. I know he's 0:18:07.720 --> 0:18:11.880 going to be in the world, and as he has 0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:14.560 said many times since he got the job, he feels 0:18:14.560 --> 0:18:19.600 like his job is to help everybody else succeed. At 0:18:19.640 --> 0:18:22.399 some point during these discussions, I can picture us all 0:18:22.520 --> 0:18:26.240 kind of sitting around Tony and or James and Liam 0:18:26.280 --> 0:18:30.439 talking talk talk talk Talk talk, bo. What do you 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:34.880 think in input when appropriate? And I think that will 0:18:34.920 --> 0:18:41.320 be different picks, different moments, big picture, but he won't 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:44.600 be overbearing and banging the table and saying, James, you 0:18:44.640 --> 0:18:46.200 can't do this. That's not his role. 0:18:46.480 --> 0:18:48.240 They're gonna be exciting to see this new dynamic. We 0:18:48.240 --> 0:18:50.480 obviously have some great access now with The Hunt behind 0:18:50.520 --> 0:18:52.480 the scenes, so we'll have cameras in there and we'll 0:18:52.680 --> 0:18:54.359 kind of get to see how things are put together 0:18:54.440 --> 0:18:56.520 in the latest edition of The Hunt in a couple 0:18:56.520 --> 0:18:58.600 of weeks. All right, One more final question for you, 0:18:58.600 --> 0:19:02.080 O Zones Tim from Jack How many NFL drafts have 0:19:02.119 --> 0:19:02.600 you covered? 0:19:03.000 --> 0:19:04.000 Too many? 0:19:04.800 --> 0:19:05.080 Many? 0:19:05.680 --> 0:19:09.040 No, this will be thirty one. I guess the first 0:19:09.119 --> 0:19:12.760 one was ninety five. Well, I covered a couple for 0:19:12.800 --> 0:19:15.720 the Times Union where I was sort of the auxiliary guy, 0:19:15.760 --> 0:19:17.560 which was going out to a college player's house. I 0:19:17.560 --> 0:19:19.800 actually went to Edgar Bennett's house he's now wide receiver 0:19:20.320 --> 0:19:22.280 for the draft on his draft day when he was 0:19:22.520 --> 0:19:27.480 playing for FSU. So I did a couple of tangently 0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:31.760 like that. But this will be my thirty first with 0:19:31.920 --> 0:19:36.840 the NFL in this capacity. I covered Tony's first draft 0:19:36.840 --> 0:19:40.240 as a player went out to Colorado to do a 0:19:40.240 --> 0:19:42.680 story in his family after he got drafted. I'm now 0:19:42.760 --> 0:19:46.720 covering his first as a executive vice president. All of 0:19:46.720 --> 0:19:47.560 which means I'm old. 0:19:47.880 --> 0:19:48.960