WEBVTT - #375 Packers Unscripted: Rivalry week

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.

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<v Speaker 1>I am Mike Spofford. He is the one and only

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<v Speaker 1>wes Hodkuits. We're coming to you here from our studios

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<v Speaker 1>at lambeau Field and west to uh. I guess put

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<v Speaker 1>in perspective where the Packers are right now. Joe Philbin

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<v Speaker 1>spoke to the media on Monday, the traditional day after

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<v Speaker 1>game press conference from a head coach, and he made

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<v Speaker 1>no bones about it. Here West with the Chicago Bears

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<v Speaker 1>on the horizon Sunday noon kickoff at Soldier Field, the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers are going to have to play their best game

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<v Speaker 1>of the season, quite frankly, in order to win this game. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and now we're looking at a Bears team that is

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<v Speaker 1>going to see it arch rival come into its stadium

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<v Speaker 1>with a chance, Chicago speaking, that is, to clinch its

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<v Speaker 1>first NFC North championships since two thousand and ten. You

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<v Speaker 1>know they want to do that against the Packers. The

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<v Speaker 1>steaks do not get any higher for either of these teams.

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<v Speaker 1>Because here's the other thing. From the Bears perspective, they

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<v Speaker 1>actually have an outside chance still getting a bye here.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean, if if they can you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>the same way the pack The Packers want to win out.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bears want to do the same thing and then

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<v Speaker 1>see if maybe some luck would fall into their hands, now,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and on an outside chance, what a way,

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm not mistaken, the way the Bears would get

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<v Speaker 1>a bye would be to win out and the Rams

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<v Speaker 1>would have to lose twice, right, because if they could

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<v Speaker 1>tie the Rams, they have the tiebreaker on the head

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<v Speaker 1>to head and then the Bears could get the two seats. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so that that door is open for them now. So,

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<v Speaker 1>and then from the Packers perspective, it's really funny, Mike.

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<v Speaker 1>I was sitting down last night having a conversation with

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<v Speaker 1>my father and I was saying, you know, it's interesting

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<v Speaker 1>in that literally, these past two weeks could not have

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<v Speaker 1>gone any better for the Packers other than losing that

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<v Speaker 1>game to the Cardinal. Right, they got everything they needed

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<v Speaker 1>to happen last week, and it basically happened again. Now

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<v Speaker 1>it looks like Seattle is going to be running away

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<v Speaker 1>with one of those wild card spots. Yeah, the Seahawks

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<v Speaker 1>are in perfect position now for one of those wild cards.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they'd have to lose out for the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>to even be in a potential situation to to get

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<v Speaker 1>it over them. But be that as it may. The

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<v Speaker 1>Packers very suddenly have not a good probability, but a

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<v Speaker 1>realistic probability. Here you have three teams that need to

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<v Speaker 1>lose one, so you need the Vikings, who are reeling

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<v Speaker 1>to lose twice in the last three weeks. Stranger things

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<v Speaker 1>have happened. I think the Packers biggest issue right now

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<v Speaker 1>is the fact that they're staring at the Chicago Bears

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<v Speaker 1>here on Sunday. Yeah, they're staring at a Bears team

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<v Speaker 1>that quite frankly, is riding high. They just beat the

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<v Speaker 1>team that was holding the number one seed in the

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<v Speaker 1>NFC in the Rams, and they held that high flying

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<v Speaker 1>offense to just six points intercepted. Jared Goffwell was at

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<v Speaker 1>four times on Sunday Night Football. So this, uh, this

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<v Speaker 1>Bears team is riding a significant wave of momentum. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you can talk all these other scenarios and

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<v Speaker 1>who has to lose and this and that for the Packers,

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<v Speaker 1>but it all starts now with knocking off the presumptive

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<v Speaker 1>division champion in the Chicago Bears on Sunday in Chicago

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<v Speaker 1>in December, in the cold, all of that, for everything

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<v Speaker 1>that's gone on this season, it's just gonna be fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I think to go to Chicago for a Packers Bears

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<v Speaker 1>game in December with quite a bit on the line. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I put it as our insider Inbox headline for Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 1>and that it's all you can really ask for right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the Packers have put themselves in this position.

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<v Speaker 1>You are five, seven and one, you're on the outside

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<v Speaker 1>looking in. But it's just strange to me how many second, third,

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<v Speaker 1>now fourth chances they appear to have at trying to

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<v Speaker 1>make a postseason run. Here's what stands out to me

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<v Speaker 1>the most, Mike, You're absolutely right. The Chicago Bears defense phenomenal.

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<v Speaker 1>Getting a chance to watch some of those highlights of

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<v Speaker 1>that game these past two days, incredible what they were

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<v Speaker 1>able to do against Jared Goff and just the the

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<v Speaker 1>mayhem and dysfunction that they caused for the Bears offense alright,

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<v Speaker 1>for the excuse me, the Rams offense. Uh. But the

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<v Speaker 1>thing that's funny about is on the other side of things.

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<v Speaker 1>Mitchell Robinsky was the winning quarterback in that game with

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<v Speaker 1>a thirty three passer rating. Now they finally were able

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<v Speaker 1>to get Jordan Howard going. He had a hundred yard game,

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<v Speaker 1>but Mr Robinsky sixteen yards, one touchdown, three interceptions. This

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<v Speaker 1>is not an impenetrable force either. Now we're gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>taking some time these next couple of days to preview

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<v Speaker 1>the Bears, and we'll get into all of that, but

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<v Speaker 1>it is it's this game to me. As we lead

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<v Speaker 1>into these days, it's gonna be Joe Philbin and Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>Rodgers and this Packers offense that is now coming off

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<v Speaker 1>its highest scoring game of the season, thanks in part

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<v Speaker 1>to bust, but thirty four points against the Bears defense

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<v Speaker 1>that every single week just gets better. The storylines build themselves. Yeah. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>and we didn't really get an update from Joe Philbin

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<v Speaker 1>on where the Packers are health wise on their offensive line.

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<v Speaker 1>But really, when you look at this game, the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that the Packers were missing three starters on their offensive

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<v Speaker 1>line for the Falcons game and what this Bears defensive

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<v Speaker 1>front is doing two people both against the run and

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<v Speaker 1>the past. I watched the second half, pretty much the

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<v Speaker 1>whole second half of that Rams Bears game, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was amazing because the last night checked Todd Gurley's The

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<v Speaker 1>Reigning NFC Offensive NFL Offensive Player of the Year. The

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<v Speaker 1>Rams just didn't even want to give them the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>They gave up trying to run the ball against that

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<v Speaker 1>Bears front, and then the pass r us just made

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<v Speaker 1>life miserable for Golf. Not that they sacked him a

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<v Speaker 1>whole bunch of times, but the four interceptions were largely

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<v Speaker 1>the result of all the pressure and him having to

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<v Speaker 1>run around and and everything. I don't know where the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers will be on the offensive line, if Brian Blaga,

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<v Speaker 1>Byron Bell and or Lane Taylor will be able to

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<v Speaker 1>get back into the starting lineup. But this game for

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers offense comes down to what they do up

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<v Speaker 1>front against that Bears defensive front. Because the Bears have

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<v Speaker 1>a whole bunch of interceptions, but it's that defensive front

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<v Speaker 1>that sets the tone. Yeah, I mean, they definitely gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to protect the football. The Bears I think are

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<v Speaker 1>already north of what thirty takeaways or something like this

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<v Speaker 1>on the season. I saw a stat that they have

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five interceptions I believe on the season, and in

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<v Speaker 1>the last three years combined, the Bears had twenty four interceptions.

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle Fuller, I mean, people want to talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers in the off season. Everything Brian Goodkins trying to

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<v Speaker 1>sign Kyle Fuller looks better and better every single day

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<v Speaker 1>with him now up to seven interceptions on the season.

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<v Speaker 1>Eddie Jackson, the former safety out of Alabama who broke

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<v Speaker 1>his leg, has now become a phenomenal player in their secondary.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, you're right, there are a lot of guys

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<v Speaker 1>that can take away the football. But much like Vic

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<v Speaker 1>Fangio's defense in San Francisco years, this thing is being

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<v Speaker 1>one for them right now in the trenches and it

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<v Speaker 1>was you know, you could talk about Cleil mac in

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<v Speaker 1>no question, Kleil Mack is a big piece of that,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe even the one that put them over the top.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think you gotta give a lot of credit

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<v Speaker 1>to Ryan Pace what they've brought in. You know, Danny

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<v Speaker 1>Trevathan has now become a big part of that middle

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<v Speaker 1>of that defen ends. But then you know ro Quan

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<v Speaker 1>Smith comes in. There are just so many different guys

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<v Speaker 1>at so many different levels that are stepping up for

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<v Speaker 1>the Bears this season, and it's allowing them to to

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<v Speaker 1>put together performances like this. I have to throw out

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<v Speaker 1>one more thing, Michael before I let you get to

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<v Speaker 1>your advertisement too, thank you to the Bears defense, You're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be like, why are you saying thank you? Every

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<v Speaker 1>single person that has asked over the last few weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>why aren't the Packers running more jet sweeps? Why isn't

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<v Speaker 1>there more misdirection? Watch what happened to the Rams in

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<v Speaker 1>that game. Good defense and good discipline will always beat misdirection.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's it's it's the it's as long as

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL has been around, that has been the case.

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<v Speaker 1>If that wasn't the case, you'd run jet sweeps every

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<v Speaker 1>single play. The Bears blew them up. There was nothing

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<v Speaker 1>that the Rams are gonna be able to get away with,

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<v Speaker 1>and it ended the way up with them having was

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<v Speaker 1>a thirteen carries sixty two yards. They couldn't they couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>run the ball. They couldn't run the football, and that

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<v Speaker 1>that just completely set them up for for failure in

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<v Speaker 1>that game. You mentioned Mac, and I know we'll use

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow show to talk even more about the Bears, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think and I take nothing away from Mac and

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<v Speaker 1>what he did in Oakland, But I don't know in

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<v Speaker 1>Oakland if he was ever on a defensive line that

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<v Speaker 1>had a guy like a Keen Hicks, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>those two, you can say what you want about Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>Donald and Dominican Sue a great pair for the l

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<v Speaker 1>A Rams. I don't know if there is a more

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<v Speaker 1>disruptive and dangerous pair of defensive linemen on the same

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<v Speaker 1>team right now than Khalil Mack and a Keen Hicks.

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<v Speaker 1>Those guys, those guys are just downright nasty, I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>for lack of a better word. It's an excellent point

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<v Speaker 1>you make, because when they drafted Mac, he was there,

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<v Speaker 1>he was their playmaker, but he was young. In all

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<v Speaker 1>of the veterans on that group, on that unit that

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<v Speaker 1>the Raiders had, they were all free agent signings. There

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<v Speaker 1>were no hicks Is out there that were just like

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<v Speaker 1>bona fide starters that were already causing disruption in their defense.

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<v Speaker 1>They were trying to mix and match veterans with their

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<v Speaker 1>young guys. Whereas you take Vic Fangio, what he's done.

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<v Speaker 1>He's had playmakers in place, he's had a top ten

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<v Speaker 1>defense before, and now you just added one of the

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<v Speaker 1>top young pass rushers into the league into that unit. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Another thing I wanted to get to West because I

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<v Speaker 1>had the pleasure on Monday of going through the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>defensive film because I wanted to see just how this

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<v Speaker 1>whole matchup between Jaire Alexander and Julio Jones went. And

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<v Speaker 1>I take nothing away from what alexand Or did against

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<v Speaker 1>Jones when he was matched up with him one on one,

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<v Speaker 1>but what I found, and this is why I ended

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<v Speaker 1>up centering my entire What you might have missed weekly piece,

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<v Speaker 1>which which will be up on the website Tuesday around

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<v Speaker 1>this is it wasn't just what Alexander did against Jones.

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<v Speaker 1>And don't get too carried away with the narrative that

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<v Speaker 1>this was, you know, sixty snaps or sixty five snaps

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<v Speaker 1>of Alexander just lined up across from Julio Jones every play,

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<v Speaker 1>because that wasn't the case. There was some mixing and

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<v Speaker 1>matching with some zone calls and other types of coverages.

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<v Speaker 1>But man, when I was watching Alexander snap after snap

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<v Speaker 1>on the All twenty two, his anticipation defensively really really

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<v Speaker 1>stands out. And I'm talking about plays where trying to

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<v Speaker 1>you know, flare out passes to the running backs or

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<v Speaker 1>even on design screens, whether it's a checkdown or or

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<v Speaker 1>a screen a design pass to a running back, he

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<v Speaker 1>is charging up from that cornerback position. He is right

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<v Speaker 1>in the thick of all those plays. And one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that really jumped out at me is you

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<v Speaker 1>remember the play where I believe it was Atlanta's second possession,

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<v Speaker 1>third down there nearing the red zone, and Matt Ryan

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<v Speaker 1>kind of pump pump fakes or tries to stop throwing

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<v Speaker 1>the ball and it comes out of his hand and

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<v Speaker 1>and they lose. They lose a whole bunch of yards.

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<v Speaker 1>When you look at that on film, he's trying, he's

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<v Speaker 1>looking to swing it out to Tevin Coleman, leaking out

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<v Speaker 1>of the backfield. J You're Alexander was charging up. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm convinced from watching the film that when Matt Ryan

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<v Speaker 1>saw Alexander's anticipation of that play is when he tried

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<v Speaker 1>to stop the throw, and then that's why the ball

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<v Speaker 1>comes out. So it looks like a terrible play on

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Ryan's part, But give credit to Alexander. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he's the one who forced the fumble. Yeah, yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>he's had a great year. I mean, you look at

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<v Speaker 1>where he came from as a twenty one year old rookie,

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<v Speaker 1>eighteenth overall pick, high expectations, and he's, you know, really

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<v Speaker 1>risen to every challenge and he's been given this year.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, you know, whatever your definition of matching

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<v Speaker 1>however want to look at it. The Packers have made

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<v Speaker 1>it pretty clear, especially in the time in which Kevin

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<v Speaker 1>King has been out with these lingering lower body issues.

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<v Speaker 1>Hamstring issues that JayR Alexander is their quote unquote number

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<v Speaker 1>one cornerback. Uh. He can play the slot, he can

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<v Speaker 1>play the boundary. He's versatile, he's quick, he's a ball hawk,

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<v Speaker 1>and he has a short memory and his confidence never weighing.

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<v Speaker 1>So for him to be able to step up to

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<v Speaker 1>that challenge but then also be accountable um to those

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<v Speaker 1>other situational football type things, because in a situation like

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<v Speaker 1>that where there is a dump off pass, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>imagine there was any situation where that was quote unquote

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<v Speaker 1>his guy. You know, that's just a guy trying to

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<v Speaker 1>step up and make a play track in the eyes

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<v Speaker 1>of quarterback and being aware of his surroundings. And then

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<v Speaker 1>a byproduct of that is you end up causing what

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<v Speaker 1>it was at a sixteen yard loss. Sixteen yard loss,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the Falcons missed the field goal has ended

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<v Speaker 1>up being a fifty plus yard field goal that came

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<v Speaker 1>up way short. The two biggest plays for the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>defensive the day. We're both set up on you know,

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<v Speaker 1>one two situations when it was that and then Bryant

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<v Speaker 1>missing badly on the field goal, and then also the

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<v Speaker 1>the kickoff return that was botched ends up being putting

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<v Speaker 1>them at the eight yard line and then comes back

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<v Speaker 1>and gets the pick six. Those are the type of

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<v Speaker 1>things you need, though, you need to have for the

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<v Speaker 1>defensive perspective, positive momentum building plays because the other side

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<v Speaker 1>of that is it's going to tilt this, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the momentum of a football game. Yeah, I tell you

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<v Speaker 1>number twenty three. This rookie Alexander for the Packers. He

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<v Speaker 1>is just fun to watch. And I know the fans

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<v Speaker 1>watching at home on TV, you can't focus on a cornerback.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not in the screen. And that's why I took

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<v Speaker 1>the time to sit down and watch an entire game

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<v Speaker 1>simply focusing on him on the AL twenty two and

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<v Speaker 1>and he he really, he really is a special player.

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<v Speaker 1>And he doesn't look like a rookie. I guess that's

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the biggest compliment I could I could give him,

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<v Speaker 1>because yes, Julio Jones is going to make his plays.

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<v Speaker 1>Julio Jones had one big play that was called back

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<v Speaker 1>on an offensive holding penalty, another play where he beat

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<v Speaker 1>Alexander deep but the ball was overthrown. That kind of

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<v Speaker 1>stuff happens as well. But man, you talk, you talk

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<v Speaker 1>about a competitor, who is not going to back down

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<v Speaker 1>to anybody, and who's who's energy and enthusiasm and everything

0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:14.840
<v Speaker 1>fires up everybody around him. Yeah, and if you could,

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<v Speaker 1>just if for the Packers sake, if you get three

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<v Speaker 1>more weeks here the rest of this regular season where

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<v Speaker 1>you can get keep Alexander and Brelan and Jack's and

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<v Speaker 1>Tony Brown, you know, keep the rest of that secondary healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>They've had a weather a lot of injuries this year.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think you even saw with Briland the dimension

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<v Speaker 1>that he adds when he's sort of thrown in there

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<v Speaker 1>as well, because he has inside outside versatility. He he

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<v Speaker 1>said it after the game, he really stressed over the

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<v Speaker 1>last few years, his playmaking ability, his ball hawking ability.

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<v Speaker 1>Truman Williams, Kentroll, Bryce was back in that game. I

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<v Speaker 1>just think from Mike Petton's perspective, moving these chess pieces around,

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<v Speaker 1>the more of them, the more guys that you give him,

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<v Speaker 1>the better his defense can be, the more plays that

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<v Speaker 1>they can make. The exciting thing about Alexander's getting back

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<v Speaker 1>to him, though, is the fact that he is only

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<v Speaker 1>one years old. He has a long future, bright future

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<v Speaker 1>ahead of him in this league, and every single repute

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<v Speaker 1>takes against Julio Jones or Brandon Cooks or Larry Fitzgerald,

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<v Speaker 1>all these guys he's seen over the last couple of months.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the byproduct of that, that the benefit of

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<v Speaker 1>that down the line is just going to be out

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<v Speaker 1>of this world. Yeah, I totally agree with you. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I promised at the end of yesterday's show that we

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<v Speaker 1>would look back at the week that was in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 1>and with that result on Monday Night Football, with the

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<v Speaker 1>Seahawks beating the Vikings, that is what has set up

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<v Speaker 1>now that the Bears are in position with one more victory.

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<v Speaker 1>All Chicago needs is one more win to clinch it's

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<v Speaker 1>first NFC North title since two thousand ten. But now

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<v Speaker 1>the Vikings are sitting there at six six and one.

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<v Speaker 1>There are three other teams I believe that are six

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<v Speaker 1>and seven, the Packers then behind that bunch at five

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<v Speaker 1>seven and one, This whole cluster fighting for the what

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<v Speaker 1>what right now would be the number six seed in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFC, the wild card spot. You know, it's tough West.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the Philadelphia Eagles look like, okay, are they

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<v Speaker 1>going to make a run, but then they end up

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<v Speaker 1>losing in overtime to the Cowboys. The Carolina Panthers were

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<v Speaker 1>six and two. They've lost five games in a row

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<v Speaker 1>to drop to six and seven, and now they're hanging

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<v Speaker 1>on for their playoff lives. Um. And obviously the Washington Redskins,

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<v Speaker 1>with their quarterback situation and the injuries, they've gone from

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<v Speaker 1>six and three I believe they were to now six

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<v Speaker 1>and seven with four straight losses. Um, it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>got it's you know, quite frankly gotten crazy in the NFC.

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<v Speaker 1>And if one other thing happened as a result of

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<v Speaker 1>the Bears beating the Rams on Sunday night, the Bears

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<v Speaker 1>might have just sent the NFC road to the Super

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl through the Super Dome in New Orleans. Because now

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<v Speaker 1>the the Saints, who have the tiebreaker on the Rams,

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<v Speaker 1>are back in the number one spot. And I know

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<v Speaker 1>the Saints have had their ups and downs here over

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<v Speaker 1>the last couple of weeks, but boy, come g Nanuary.

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<v Speaker 1>Having to go into the Super Doom in New Orleans,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure if anybody's going to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>go in there and beat that team. Yeah, if they

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<v Speaker 1>can just stay at a T n T stadium now

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<v Speaker 1>from the here until the Super Bowl, they might be

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<v Speaker 1>all right. The very interesting thing about them though, I

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<v Speaker 1>was thinking about this before and I was just looking

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<v Speaker 1>at the schedule now. They do have that that quirky

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<v Speaker 1>part of the schedule where they get Carolina twice in

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<v Speaker 1>three weeks. Caroline is having a boatload of issues right now,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out what's going on there in Pittsburgh's

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<v Speaker 1>coming off a really demoralizing loss as well. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>things are setting up pretty well for Sean Payton's team.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh as far as that game though, with the Minnesota

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<v Speaker 1>and Seattle, the game right there basically to be had

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<v Speaker 1>for the Vikings and offensively just can't get it done.

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<v Speaker 1>I I know, the main storyline this year has been

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<v Speaker 1>with Kirk Cousins and the fact that the Vikings have

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<v Speaker 1>had the issues they've had. Totally get that they dished

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<v Speaker 1>out a ton of money to them that creates expectations,

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<v Speaker 1>but their inability to get the running game going this

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<v Speaker 1>season has really just caught me by some rise. I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I know, Delvin Kick was coming off of

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<v Speaker 1>an injury, but I thought getting him back this year

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<v Speaker 1>and pairing him with with Cousins and what they did

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<v Speaker 1>without him, I thought, I thought I thought so too, West.

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<v Speaker 1>I really I really thought Dalvin Cook was going to

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<v Speaker 1>be the answer for them in the running game. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure why that is. But uh, and I again,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to go into a whole referendum on

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<v Speaker 1>the officiating in the NFL, but I don't understand how

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<v Speaker 1>you pick up the flag on Bobby Wagner on the

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<v Speaker 1>blocked field goal. It's the it's the letter of the law.

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<v Speaker 1>You threw the flag. Then suddenly you think you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>see what you thought you saw, when actually the video

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<v Speaker 1>shows that it was a penalty, and that was the

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<v Speaker 1>difference between a fifteen yard penalty that gives the Vikings

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<v Speaker 1>a first down in the red zone down six to

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<v Speaker 1>nothing in the fourth quarter. Yes, they had just gotten

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<v Speaker 1>to the two yard line and went forward and didn't score,

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<v Speaker 1>but still the game is only six to nothing. They

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<v Speaker 1>have a first down in the red zone if they

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<v Speaker 1>get that personal file on Wagner instead, the blocked field

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<v Speaker 1>goal stands. The Seahawks drive the other way and get

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<v Speaker 1>a touched on and go up to scores and put

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<v Speaker 1>the game away. These games are hinging on officiating, West,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not sure what the league is going to

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<v Speaker 1>do about it, if anything, But it just seems like

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<v Speaker 1>you can't go a week, and now that we're late

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<v Speaker 1>in the season and these games mean that much more,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't go a week in this league without high

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<v Speaker 1>profile officiating discussions deciding some big things happening in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the problem that the NFL is going to have.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one thing to get Clay Matthews calling him for

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<v Speaker 1>wait on the defensive player, defensive player or whatever. It's

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<v Speaker 1>one thing to to mention this Bobby Wagner play with

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<v Speaker 1>the with the field goal. It's another thing, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when you look at how these things have gone against

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Rodgers and over the past couple of years. But

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<v Speaker 1>when a pattern develops, what does that tell you? Tells

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<v Speaker 1>you it's not going away. I'm not even looking at

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<v Speaker 1>these next three weeks, Mike. In four weeks, in five weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>in six weeks, championships are going to be decided. Teams

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<v Speaker 1>are going to be in a winner go home type phase.

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<v Speaker 1>You have twelve teams making the playoffs. So how many

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<v Speaker 1>games has that end up leading to? You're telling me

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna play all those games, dozen, sixteen, whatever comes

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<v Speaker 1>out to and you're not going to have any officiating issues.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're right. We're not gonna put this on

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<v Speaker 1>the league and the referendum at this point in time.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you think it's interesting now folks stay tuned

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<v Speaker 1>because the playoffs are on the horizon, then you're really

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<v Speaker 1>going to have an issue. Well, I think, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll just end the show by saying this. As

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<v Speaker 1>much as the NFL has resisted in a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>different facets of the game over the years, adopting things

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<v Speaker 1>that are in college football, look how long it took

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL to actually put the two point conversion into

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<v Speaker 1>the league the college system of essentially anything being subject

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<v Speaker 1>to review by somebody buzzing from upstairs to stop the

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<v Speaker 1>game and say, hey, we gotta take a look at

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<v Speaker 1>that play. I just wonder if, if sooner than later,

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<v Speaker 1>if the NFL is going to have to is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to go that route altely? But who's reviewing it

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<v Speaker 1>now too? You know, I agree with the other thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I I agree. I agree with you there, but one

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<v Speaker 1>step at a time. You know what I'm saying. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, press the buzzer. Well in New York,

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<v Speaker 1>I hear, I hear you. We are getting to that

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<v Speaker 1>point that I think you're really gonna have to take

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<v Speaker 1>a look at all these things, because it's it's piling up, Mike,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is getting pretty big. It is it is.

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<v Speaker 1>With that we gotta go. We'll sign off on this

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