Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.
Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford. He is the one and only
Speaker 1: wes Hodkuits. We're coming to you here from our studios
Speaker 1: at lambeau Field and west to uh. I guess put
Speaker 1: in perspective where the Packers are right now. Joe Philbin
Speaker 1: spoke to the media on Monday, the traditional day after
Speaker 1: game press conference from a head coach, and he made
Speaker 1: no bones about it. Here West with the Chicago Bears
Speaker 1: on the horizon Sunday noon kickoff at Soldier Field, the
Speaker 1: Packers are going to have to play their best game
Speaker 1: of the season, quite frankly, in order to win this game. Um,
Speaker 1: and now we're looking at a Bears team that is
Speaker 1: going to see it arch rival come into its stadium
Speaker 1: with a chance, Chicago speaking, that is, to clinch its
Speaker 1: first NFC North championships since two thousand and ten. You
Speaker 1: know they want to do that against the Packers. The
Speaker 1: steaks do not get any higher for either of these teams.
Speaker 1: Because here's the other thing. From the Bears perspective, they
Speaker 1: actually have an outside chance still getting a bye here.
Speaker 1: So I mean, if if they can you know, if
Speaker 1: the same way the pack The Packers want to win out.
Speaker 1: The Bears want to do the same thing and then
Speaker 1: see if maybe some luck would fall into their hands, now,
Speaker 1: you know, and on an outside chance, what a way,
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, the way the Bears would get
Speaker 1: a bye would be to win out and the Rams
Speaker 1: would have to lose twice, right, because if they could
Speaker 1: tie the Rams, they have the tiebreaker on the head
Speaker 1: to head and then the Bears could get the two seats. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that that door is open for them now. So,
Speaker 1: and then from the Packers perspective, it's really funny, Mike.
Speaker 1: I was sitting down last night having a conversation with
Speaker 1: my father and I was saying, you know, it's interesting
Speaker 1: in that literally, these past two weeks could not have
Speaker 1: gone any better for the Packers other than losing that
Speaker 1: game to the Cardinal. Right, they got everything they needed
Speaker 1: to happen last week, and it basically happened again. Now
Speaker 1: it looks like Seattle is going to be running away
Speaker 1: with one of those wild card spots. Yeah, the Seahawks
Speaker 1: are in perfect position now for one of those wild cards.
Speaker 1: You know, they'd have to lose out for the Packers
Speaker 1: to even be in a potential situation to to get
Speaker 1: it over them. But be that as it may. The
Speaker 1: Packers very suddenly have not a good probability, but a
Speaker 1: realistic probability. Here you have three teams that need to
Speaker 1: lose one, so you need the Vikings, who are reeling
Speaker 1: to lose twice in the last three weeks. Stranger things
Speaker 1: have happened. I think the Packers biggest issue right now
Speaker 1: is the fact that they're staring at the Chicago Bears
Speaker 1: here on Sunday. Yeah, they're staring at a Bears team
Speaker 1: that quite frankly, is riding high. They just beat the
Speaker 1: team that was holding the number one seed in the
Speaker 1: NFC in the Rams, and they held that high flying
Speaker 1: offense to just six points intercepted. Jared Goffwell was at
Speaker 1: four times on Sunday Night Football. So this, uh, this
Speaker 1: Bears team is riding a significant wave of momentum. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean you can talk all these other scenarios and
Speaker 1: who has to lose and this and that for the Packers,
Speaker 1: but it all starts now with knocking off the presumptive
Speaker 1: division champion in the Chicago Bears on Sunday in Chicago
Speaker 1: in December, in the cold, all of that, for everything
Speaker 1: that's gone on this season, it's just gonna be fun.
Speaker 1: I think to go to Chicago for a Packers Bears
Speaker 1: game in December with quite a bit on the line. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I put it as our insider Inbox headline for Tuesday,
Speaker 1: and that it's all you can really ask for right now.
Speaker 1: I mean, the Packers have put themselves in this position.
Speaker 1: You are five, seven and one, you're on the outside
Speaker 1: looking in. But it's just strange to me how many second, third,
Speaker 1: now fourth chances they appear to have at trying to
Speaker 1: make a postseason run. Here's what stands out to me
Speaker 1: the most, Mike, You're absolutely right. The Chicago Bears defense phenomenal.
Speaker 1: Getting a chance to watch some of those highlights of
Speaker 1: that game these past two days, incredible what they were
Speaker 1: able to do against Jared Goff and just the the
Speaker 1: mayhem and dysfunction that they caused for the Bears offense alright,
Speaker 1: for the excuse me, the Rams offense. Uh. But the
Speaker 1: thing that's funny about is on the other side of things.
Speaker 1: Mitchell Robinsky was the winning quarterback in that game with
Speaker 1: a thirty three passer rating. Now they finally were able
Speaker 1: to get Jordan Howard going. He had a hundred yard game,
Speaker 1: but Mr Robinsky sixteen yards, one touchdown, three interceptions. This
Speaker 1: is not an impenetrable force either. Now we're gonna be
Speaker 1: taking some time these next couple of days to preview
Speaker 1: the Bears, and we'll get into all of that, but
Speaker 1: it is it's this game to me. As we lead
Speaker 1: into these days, it's gonna be Joe Philbin and Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers and this Packers offense that is now coming off
Speaker 1: its highest scoring game of the season, thanks in part
Speaker 1: to bust, but thirty four points against the Bears defense
Speaker 1: that every single week just gets better. The storylines build themselves. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: and we didn't really get an update from Joe Philbin
Speaker 1: on where the Packers are health wise on their offensive line.
Speaker 1: But really, when you look at this game, the fact
Speaker 1: that the Packers were missing three starters on their offensive
Speaker 1: line for the Falcons game and what this Bears defensive
Speaker 1: front is doing two people both against the run and
Speaker 1: the past. I watched the second half, pretty much the
Speaker 1: whole second half of that Rams Bears game, and it
Speaker 1: was amazing because the last night checked Todd Gurley's The
Speaker 1: Reigning NFC Offensive NFL Offensive Player of the Year. The
Speaker 1: Rams just didn't even want to give them the ball.
Speaker 1: They gave up trying to run the ball against that
Speaker 1: Bears front, and then the pass r us just made
Speaker 1: life miserable for Golf. Not that they sacked him a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of times, but the four interceptions were largely
Speaker 1: the result of all the pressure and him having to
Speaker 1: run around and and everything. I don't know where the
Speaker 1: Packers will be on the offensive line, if Brian Blaga,
Speaker 1: Byron Bell and or Lane Taylor will be able to
Speaker 1: get back into the starting lineup. But this game for
Speaker 1: the Packers offense comes down to what they do up
Speaker 1: front against that Bears defensive front. Because the Bears have
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of interceptions, but it's that defensive front
Speaker 1: that sets the tone. Yeah, I mean, they definitely gonna
Speaker 1: have to protect the football. The Bears I think are
Speaker 1: already north of what thirty takeaways or something like this
Speaker 1: on the season. I saw a stat that they have
Speaker 1: twenty five interceptions I believe on the season, and in
Speaker 1: the last three years combined, the Bears had twenty four interceptions.
Speaker 1: Kyle Fuller, I mean, people want to talk about the
Speaker 1: Packers in the off season. Everything Brian Goodkins trying to
Speaker 1: sign Kyle Fuller looks better and better every single day
Speaker 1: with him now up to seven interceptions on the season.
Speaker 1: Eddie Jackson, the former safety out of Alabama who broke
Speaker 1: his leg, has now become a phenomenal player in their secondary.
Speaker 1: So yeah, you're right, there are a lot of guys
Speaker 1: that can take away the football. But much like Vic
Speaker 1: Fangio's defense in San Francisco years, this thing is being
Speaker 1: one for them right now in the trenches and it
Speaker 1: was you know, you could talk about Cleil mac in
Speaker 1: no question, Kleil Mack is a big piece of that,
Speaker 1: maybe even the one that put them over the top.
Speaker 1: But I think you gotta give a lot of credit
Speaker 1: to Ryan Pace what they've brought in. You know, Danny
Speaker 1: Trevathan has now become a big part of that middle
Speaker 1: of that defen ends. But then you know ro Quan
Speaker 1: Smith comes in. There are just so many different guys
Speaker 1: at so many different levels that are stepping up for
Speaker 1: the Bears this season, and it's allowing them to to
Speaker 1: put together performances like this. I have to throw out
Speaker 1: one more thing, Michael before I let you get to
Speaker 1: your advertisement too, thank you to the Bears defense, You're
Speaker 1: gonna be like, why are you saying thank you? Every
Speaker 1: single person that has asked over the last few weeks,
Speaker 1: why aren't the Packers running more jet sweeps? Why isn't
Speaker 1: there more misdirection? Watch what happened to the Rams in
Speaker 1: that game. Good defense and good discipline will always beat misdirection.
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's it's the it's as long as
Speaker 1: the NFL has been around, that has been the case.
Speaker 1: If that wasn't the case, you'd run jet sweeps every
Speaker 1: single play. The Bears blew them up. There was nothing
Speaker 1: that the Rams are gonna be able to get away with,
Speaker 1: and it ended the way up with them having was
Speaker 1: a thirteen carries sixty two yards. They couldn't they couldn't
Speaker 1: run the ball. They couldn't run the football, and that
Speaker 1: that just completely set them up for for failure in
Speaker 1: that game. You mentioned Mac, and I know we'll use
Speaker 1: tomorrow show to talk even more about the Bears, but
Speaker 1: I think and I take nothing away from Mac and
Speaker 1: what he did in Oakland, But I don't know in
Speaker 1: Oakland if he was ever on a defensive line that
Speaker 1: had a guy like a Keen Hicks, and I think
Speaker 1: those two, you can say what you want about Aaron
Speaker 1: Donald and Dominican Sue a great pair for the l
Speaker 1: A Rams. I don't know if there is a more
Speaker 1: disruptive and dangerous pair of defensive linemen on the same
Speaker 1: team right now than Khalil Mack and a Keen Hicks.
Speaker 1: Those guys, those guys are just downright nasty, I guess,
Speaker 1: for lack of a better word. It's an excellent point
Speaker 1: you make, because when they drafted Mac, he was there,
Speaker 1: he was their playmaker, but he was young. In all
Speaker 1: of the veterans on that group, on that unit that
Speaker 1: the Raiders had, they were all free agent signings. There
Speaker 1: were no hicks Is out there that were just like
Speaker 1: bona fide starters that were already causing disruption in their defense.
Speaker 1: They were trying to mix and match veterans with their
Speaker 1: young guys. Whereas you take Vic Fangio, what he's done.
Speaker 1: He's had playmakers in place, he's had a top ten
Speaker 1: defense before, and now you just added one of the
Speaker 1: top young pass rushers into the league into that unit. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: Another thing I wanted to get to West because I
Speaker 1: had the pleasure on Monday of going through the Packers
Speaker 1: defensive film because I wanted to see just how this
Speaker 1: whole matchup between Jaire Alexander and Julio Jones went. And
Speaker 1: I take nothing away from what alexand Or did against
Speaker 1: Jones when he was matched up with him one on one,
Speaker 1: but what I found, and this is why I ended
Speaker 1: up centering my entire What you might have missed weekly piece,
Speaker 1: which which will be up on the website Tuesday around
Speaker 1: this is it wasn't just what Alexander did against Jones.
Speaker 1: And don't get too carried away with the narrative that
Speaker 1: this was, you know, sixty snaps or sixty five snaps
Speaker 1: of Alexander just lined up across from Julio Jones every play,
Speaker 1: because that wasn't the case. There was some mixing and
Speaker 1: matching with some zone calls and other types of coverages.
Speaker 1: But man, when I was watching Alexander snap after snap
Speaker 1: on the All twenty two, his anticipation defensively really really
Speaker 1: stands out. And I'm talking about plays where trying to
Speaker 1: you know, flare out passes to the running backs or
Speaker 1: even on design screens, whether it's a checkdown or or
Speaker 1: a screen a design pass to a running back, he
Speaker 1: is charging up from that cornerback position. He is right
Speaker 1: in the thick of all those plays. And one of
Speaker 1: the things that really jumped out at me is you
Speaker 1: remember the play where I believe it was Atlanta's second possession,
Speaker 1: third down there nearing the red zone, and Matt Ryan
Speaker 1: kind of pump pump fakes or tries to stop throwing
Speaker 1: the ball and it comes out of his hand and
Speaker 1: and they lose. They lose a whole bunch of yards.
Speaker 1: When you look at that on film, he's trying, he's
Speaker 1: looking to swing it out to Tevin Coleman, leaking out
Speaker 1: of the backfield. J You're Alexander was charging up. And
Speaker 1: I'm convinced from watching the film that when Matt Ryan
Speaker 1: saw Alexander's anticipation of that play is when he tried
Speaker 1: to stop the throw, and then that's why the ball
Speaker 1: comes out. So it looks like a terrible play on
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan's part, But give credit to Alexander. I think
Speaker 1: he's the one who forced the fumble. Yeah, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: he's had a great year. I mean, you look at
Speaker 1: where he came from as a twenty one year old rookie,
Speaker 1: eighteenth overall pick, high expectations, and he's, you know, really
Speaker 1: risen to every challenge and he's been given this year.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you know, whatever your definition of matching
Speaker 1: however want to look at it. The Packers have made
Speaker 1: it pretty clear, especially in the time in which Kevin
Speaker 1: King has been out with these lingering lower body issues.
Speaker 1: Hamstring issues that JayR Alexander is their quote unquote number
Speaker 1: one cornerback. Uh. He can play the slot, he can
Speaker 1: play the boundary. He's versatile, he's quick, he's a ball hawk,
Speaker 1: and he has a short memory and his confidence never weighing.
Speaker 1: So for him to be able to step up to
Speaker 1: that challenge but then also be accountable um to those
Speaker 1: other situational football type things, because in a situation like
Speaker 1: that where there is a dump off pass, I can't
Speaker 1: imagine there was any situation where that was quote unquote
Speaker 1: his guy. You know, that's just a guy trying to
Speaker 1: step up and make a play track in the eyes
Speaker 1: of quarterback and being aware of his surroundings. And then
Speaker 1: a byproduct of that is you end up causing what
Speaker 1: it was at a sixteen yard loss. Sixteen yard loss,
Speaker 1: and then the Falcons missed the field goal has ended
Speaker 1: up being a fifty plus yard field goal that came
Speaker 1: up way short. The two biggest plays for the Packers
Speaker 1: defensive the day. We're both set up on you know,
Speaker 1: one two situations when it was that and then Bryant
Speaker 1: missing badly on the field goal, and then also the
Speaker 1: the kickoff return that was botched ends up being putting
Speaker 1: them at the eight yard line and then comes back
Speaker 1: and gets the pick six. Those are the type of
Speaker 1: things you need, though, you need to have for the
Speaker 1: defensive perspective, positive momentum building plays because the other side
Speaker 1: of that is it's going to tilt this, you know,
Speaker 1: the momentum of a football game. Yeah, I tell you
Speaker 1: number twenty three. This rookie Alexander for the Packers. He
Speaker 1: is just fun to watch. And I know the fans
Speaker 1: watching at home on TV, you can't focus on a cornerback.
Speaker 1: He's not in the screen. And that's why I took
Speaker 1: the time to sit down and watch an entire game
Speaker 1: simply focusing on him on the AL twenty two and
Speaker 1: and he he really, he really is a special player.
Speaker 1: And he doesn't look like a rookie. I guess that's
Speaker 1: maybe the biggest compliment I could I could give him,
Speaker 1: because yes, Julio Jones is going to make his plays.
Speaker 1: Julio Jones had one big play that was called back
Speaker 1: on an offensive holding penalty, another play where he beat
Speaker 1: Alexander deep but the ball was overthrown. That kind of
Speaker 1: stuff happens as well. But man, you talk, you talk
Speaker 1: about a competitor, who is not going to back down
Speaker 1: to anybody, and who's who's energy and enthusiasm and everything
Speaker 1: fires up everybody around him. Yeah, and if you could,
Speaker 1: just if for the Packers sake, if you get three
Speaker 1: more weeks here the rest of this regular season where
Speaker 1: you can get keep Alexander and Brelan and Jack's and
Speaker 1: Tony Brown, you know, keep the rest of that secondary healthy.
Speaker 1: They've had a weather a lot of injuries this year.
Speaker 1: But I think you even saw with Briland the dimension
Speaker 1: that he adds when he's sort of thrown in there
Speaker 1: as well, because he has inside outside versatility. He he
Speaker 1: said it after the game, he really stressed over the
Speaker 1: last few years, his playmaking ability, his ball hawking ability.
Speaker 1: Truman Williams, Kentroll, Bryce was back in that game. I
Speaker 1: just think from Mike Petton's perspective, moving these chess pieces around,
Speaker 1: the more of them, the more guys that you give him,
Speaker 1: the better his defense can be, the more plays that
Speaker 1: they can make. The exciting thing about Alexander's getting back
Speaker 1: to him, though, is the fact that he is only
Speaker 1: one years old. He has a long future, bright future
Speaker 1: ahead of him in this league, and every single repute
Speaker 1: takes against Julio Jones or Brandon Cooks or Larry Fitzgerald,
Speaker 1: all these guys he's seen over the last couple of months.
Speaker 1: I mean, the byproduct of that, that the benefit of
Speaker 1: that down the line is just going to be out
Speaker 1: of this world. Yeah, I totally agree with you. Well,
Speaker 1: I promised at the end of yesterday's show that we
Speaker 1: would look back at the week that was in the NFL,
Speaker 1: and with that result on Monday Night Football, with the
Speaker 1: Seahawks beating the Vikings, that is what has set up
Speaker 1: now that the Bears are in position with one more victory.
Speaker 1: All Chicago needs is one more win to clinch it's
Speaker 1: first NFC North title since two thousand ten. But now
Speaker 1: the Vikings are sitting there at six six and one.
Speaker 1: There are three other teams I believe that are six
Speaker 1: and seven, the Packers then behind that bunch at five
Speaker 1: seven and one, This whole cluster fighting for the what
Speaker 1: what right now would be the number six seed in
Speaker 1: the NFC, the wild card spot. You know, it's tough West.
Speaker 1: I mean, the Philadelphia Eagles look like, okay, are they
Speaker 1: going to make a run, but then they end up
Speaker 1: losing in overtime to the Cowboys. The Carolina Panthers were
Speaker 1: six and two. They've lost five games in a row
Speaker 1: to drop to six and seven, and now they're hanging
Speaker 1: on for their playoff lives. Um. And obviously the Washington Redskins,
Speaker 1: with their quarterback situation and the injuries, they've gone from
Speaker 1: six and three I believe they were to now six
Speaker 1: and seven with four straight losses. Um, it's kind of
Speaker 1: got it's you know, quite frankly gotten crazy in the NFC.
Speaker 1: And if one other thing happened as a result of
Speaker 1: the Bears beating the Rams on Sunday night, the Bears
Speaker 1: might have just sent the NFC road to the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl through the Super Dome in New Orleans. Because now
Speaker 1: the the Saints, who have the tiebreaker on the Rams,
Speaker 1: are back in the number one spot. And I know
Speaker 1: the Saints have had their ups and downs here over
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks, but boy, come g Nanuary.
Speaker 1: Having to go into the Super Doom in New Orleans,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if anybody's going to be able to
Speaker 1: go in there and beat that team. Yeah, if they
Speaker 1: can just stay at a T n T stadium now
Speaker 1: from the here until the Super Bowl, they might be
Speaker 1: all right. The very interesting thing about them though, I
Speaker 1: was thinking about this before and I was just looking
Speaker 1: at the schedule now. They do have that that quirky
Speaker 1: part of the schedule where they get Carolina twice in
Speaker 1: three weeks. Caroline is having a boatload of issues right now,
Speaker 1: trying to figure out what's going on there in Pittsburgh's
Speaker 1: coming off a really demoralizing loss as well. So yeah,
Speaker 1: things are setting up pretty well for Sean Payton's team.
Speaker 1: Uh as far as that game though, with the Minnesota
Speaker 1: and Seattle, the game right there basically to be had
Speaker 1: for the Vikings and offensively just can't get it done.
Speaker 1: I I know, the main storyline this year has been
Speaker 1: with Kirk Cousins and the fact that the Vikings have
Speaker 1: had the issues they've had. Totally get that they dished
Speaker 1: out a ton of money to them that creates expectations,
Speaker 1: but their inability to get the running game going this
Speaker 1: season has really just caught me by some rise. I thought,
Speaker 1: you know, I know, Delvin Kick was coming off of
Speaker 1: an injury, but I thought getting him back this year
Speaker 1: and pairing him with with Cousins and what they did
Speaker 1: without him, I thought, I thought I thought so too, West.
Speaker 1: I really I really thought Dalvin Cook was going to
Speaker 1: be the answer for them in the running game. And
Speaker 1: I'm not sure why that is. But uh, and I again,
Speaker 1: I don't want to go into a whole referendum on
Speaker 1: the officiating in the NFL, but I don't understand how
Speaker 1: you pick up the flag on Bobby Wagner on the
Speaker 1: blocked field goal. It's the it's the letter of the law.
Speaker 1: You threw the flag. Then suddenly you think you didn't
Speaker 1: see what you thought you saw, when actually the video
Speaker 1: shows that it was a penalty, and that was the
Speaker 1: difference between a fifteen yard penalty that gives the Vikings
Speaker 1: a first down in the red zone down six to
Speaker 1: nothing in the fourth quarter. Yes, they had just gotten
Speaker 1: to the two yard line and went forward and didn't score,
Speaker 1: but still the game is only six to nothing. They
Speaker 1: have a first down in the red zone if they
Speaker 1: get that personal file on Wagner instead, the blocked field
Speaker 1: goal stands. The Seahawks drive the other way and get
Speaker 1: a touched on and go up to scores and put
Speaker 1: the game away. These games are hinging on officiating, West,
Speaker 1: and I'm not sure what the league is going to
Speaker 1: do about it, if anything, But it just seems like
Speaker 1: you can't go a week, and now that we're late
Speaker 1: in the season and these games mean that much more,
Speaker 1: you can't go a week in this league without high
Speaker 1: profile officiating discussions deciding some big things happening in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Here's the problem that the NFL is going to have.
Speaker 1: It's one thing to get Clay Matthews calling him for
Speaker 1: wait on the defensive player, defensive player or whatever. It's
Speaker 1: one thing to to mention this Bobby Wagner play with
Speaker 1: the with the field goal. It's another thing, you know,
Speaker 1: when you look at how these things have gone against
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and over the past couple of years. But
Speaker 1: when a pattern develops, what does that tell you? Tells
Speaker 1: you it's not going away. I'm not even looking at
Speaker 1: these next three weeks, Mike. In four weeks, in five weeks,
Speaker 1: in six weeks, championships are going to be decided. Teams
Speaker 1: are going to be in a winner go home type phase.
Speaker 1: You have twelve teams making the playoffs. So how many
Speaker 1: games has that end up leading to? You're telling me
Speaker 1: you're gonna play all those games, dozen, sixteen, whatever comes
Speaker 1: out to and you're not going to have any officiating issues.
Speaker 1: I think you're right. We're not gonna put this on
Speaker 1: the league and the referendum at this point in time.
Speaker 1: But if you think it's interesting now folks stay tuned
Speaker 1: because the playoffs are on the horizon, then you're really
Speaker 1: going to have an issue. Well, I think, I think,
Speaker 1: And I'll just end the show by saying this. As
Speaker 1: much as the NFL has resisted in a lot of
Speaker 1: different facets of the game over the years, adopting things
Speaker 1: that are in college football, look how long it took
Speaker 1: the NFL to actually put the two point conversion into
Speaker 1: the league the college system of essentially anything being subject
Speaker 1: to review by somebody buzzing from upstairs to stop the
Speaker 1: game and say, hey, we gotta take a look at
Speaker 1: that play. I just wonder if, if sooner than later,
Speaker 1: if the NFL is going to have to is gonna
Speaker 1: have to go that route altely? But who's reviewing it
Speaker 1: now too? You know, I agree with the other thing.
Speaker 1: I I agree. I agree with you there, but one
Speaker 1: step at a time. You know what I'm saying. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, press the buzzer. Well in New York,
Speaker 1: I hear, I hear you. We are getting to that
Speaker 1: point that I think you're really gonna have to take
Speaker 1: a look at all these things, because it's it's piling up, Mike,
Speaker 1: and that is getting pretty big. It is it is.
Speaker 1: With that we gotta go. We'll sign off on this
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