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Speaker 1: versus Tyron Woodley Sunday, August nine at eight Eastern fought

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Speaker 1: Pacific Lot on pay per view. Order now go to

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Speaker 1: Showtime dot com slash PPB. Welcome to All the Smoke,

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Speaker 1: a production of The Black Effect and our Heart Radio

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Speaker 1: and partnership with Showtime. Welcome back to a special edition

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Speaker 1: of All the Smoke. Jack, what's going on out there

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Speaker 1: when I'm not exaggerated, took two years for me to

426
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Speaker 1: get to that moment, and when I got to that moment,

427
00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:44,560
Speaker 1: it was nothing that's gonna stop me from one of

428
00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,879
Speaker 1: that fight. You know, I hit that man so hard.

429
00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,000
Speaker 1: I partially it wasn't a tap out through the due

430
00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:53,200
Speaker 1: the arm or choke. I was punching this man out.

431
00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,840
Speaker 1: He said, funck this. He started hitting the mask and

432
00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,600
Speaker 1: I'm up, Now you ain't paying me enough. I told

433
00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:00,399
Speaker 1: me he was a wrestler, and this dude hit me

434
00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,479
Speaker 1: with the Holy Ghost. So it just felt good and

435
00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,480
Speaker 1: I at that moment in time, my family was like,

436
00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,159
Speaker 1: why are you doing this? Are you going through identity crisis.

437
00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:10,760
Speaker 1: Why are you fighting? Why don't you just be a

438
00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,359
Speaker 1: wrestling coach? And I'm like, nah, but I felt like

439
00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:15,119
Speaker 1: I can kill somebody with my bare hands, and I

440
00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,480
Speaker 1: feel like I start praying about it, like God, is

441
00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,000
Speaker 1: this right? Is this? Am I doing the right thing?

442
00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:23,000
Speaker 1: Is it's wrong? And and they were quickly reminded that

443
00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,520
Speaker 1: we've been warrant since the beginning of time. David was

444
00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:27,720
Speaker 1: a warrior, you know what I mean. Think of Samson,

445
00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,520
Speaker 1: he was a warrior. God created us. I'm not I'm

446
00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,160
Speaker 1: not claiming off into being the next Bible coming out,

447
00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,199
Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, war is a

448
00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,040
Speaker 1: part of our blood. And I'm fighting for my family.

449
00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,080
Speaker 1: I'm fighting for what I believe, and I'm fighting for

450
00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,880
Speaker 1: people that grew up in Ferguson. I don't think it's possible.

451
00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:46,000
Speaker 1: I'm fighting for people that's been taking advantage of manipulated,

452
00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And it really passed over

453
00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,040
Speaker 1: and and someone told you you couldn't do it. That's

454
00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,600
Speaker 1: what I'm fighting for. So it is right, and that's

455
00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,600
Speaker 1: why I'm gonna chosen one m So you make your

456
00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,119
Speaker 1: strike debut a few months after that at the Crib

457
00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:03,679
Speaker 1: in Missouri two June six, two thousand nine one by submission.

458
00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,120
Speaker 1: Now you're on the biggest stage. After you won that fund,

459
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,760
Speaker 1: you signed a six six fight deal with Strike Force.

460
00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:11,919
Speaker 1: Did you kind of feel like at that point you

461
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,320
Speaker 1: had made it or what was your thought process when? Uh?

462
00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,240
Speaker 1: When when you won year of Strike Force debut. You

463
00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:18,840
Speaker 1: know what's funny is, um I went out to San

464
00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,160
Speaker 1: Jose and then um I was at a gym called

465
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,600
Speaker 1: a k and um I didn't know who that gym was.

466
00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:25,520
Speaker 1: I think I had my pro debut that we talked

467
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,439
Speaker 1: about a minute ago. I went out there and I

468
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,679
Speaker 1: was training, and I was like, everything to me was

469
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,760
Speaker 1: a tryout. So I'm like, these motherfucker's trying. They trying

470
00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,119
Speaker 1: to test me. So I'm gonna ham every chance I got.

471
00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,120
Speaker 1: And when I got out there, it was Bob Cook,

472
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 1: it was Javier Mendez. You know, these are the guys

473
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,199
Speaker 1: that coach Dane Cormier. These are guys that coached you know,

474
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:46,159
Speaker 1: um you Kabib Domanga made off h Daniel CREMI wouldn't

475
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,160
Speaker 1: even didn't even want to fight then because he was like, man,

476
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,120
Speaker 1: you crazy. But they ain't new the animation man left,

477
00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,000
Speaker 1: so like this, this was like literally the infant stage

478
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:55,800
Speaker 1: of my career. And I went out there and I

479
00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,080
Speaker 1: turned up. I was rough, I was green, but they

480
00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,119
Speaker 1: saw I had it in me. So we get to

481
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,919
Speaker 1: the fight and I'm weighing in. And the way it's

482
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,320
Speaker 1: set up is the undercard of all the Strike Force

483
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 1: fights were basically a local promotion. It wasn't like strike

484
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,560
Speaker 1: Force or Showtime picked us and shout out the Showtime

485
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,680
Speaker 1: because guess what, that's where I started. That's from back in.

486
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 1: But anyway, I'm at the way in, and um, I'm

487
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,399
Speaker 1: at the way in. And Bob Cook is a matchmaker

488
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 1: as well. He remembered me from the gym and he

489
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 1: came up with Scott Coker and he said, who do

490
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 1: we need to talk to about a six fight deal?

491
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 1: Which now we're at the way ins, Like I said,

492
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,919
Speaker 1: with ship my manager right here, in my coach right here,

493
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,359
Speaker 1: let's get a cracking right down. We stayed up to

494
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,879
Speaker 1: three o'clock in the morning. I waited in three o'clock

495
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 1: in the morning, I ake my deal. The next day

496
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 1: I went out there. They put all the cameras on.

497
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:45,400
Speaker 1: You can go and look at it right now as

498
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 1: God is my witness, Google rise and start tiring with

499
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:52,160
Speaker 1: the that's before that's before I signed the deal officially.

500
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 1: That's before they even knew about me. I was an

501
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 1: undercard fighter, and I promised you historically that was the

502
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:01,200
Speaker 1: first time in the history of combast words that somebody

503
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,639
Speaker 1: from a locally promoted undercard. They were in the meeting

504
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 1: and Scott Cooper said, is there anybody that that we

505
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 1: should be looking at it on the undercar And Bob Cook,

506
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 1: because he remembered the way I turned up at a K,

507
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 1: he said, it's one kid. This kid right here is

508
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,159
Speaker 1: gonna be the Nick Diaz killer. Nick Diaz was a

509
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 1: chap at the time. He said, he's special, He's different.

510
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 1: If is anybody who ever look at you need to

511
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,879
Speaker 1: look at this one kid. I was doing this contract.

512
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 1: My lawyer was doing the most. I said, let me

513
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 1: tell you something, God or construed this dog. I'm not

514
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 1: no damn fad or a mainly and Milianko Federal was

515
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 1: a good at the time. I said, we're signing this

516
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 1: fucking deal at three o'clock in the morning. I'm gonna

517
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 1: whoop this motherfucker, asked tomorrow, and then I'm going on

518
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 1: and we're gonna turn up. And that's exactly what happened.

519
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 1: I went ten fights in a row with strike for us.

520
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 1: Everybody was getting stopped, everybody was getting finished, and they

521
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 1: coined me as the best athlete in the sport, the

522
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,200
Speaker 1: one to watch out, the rising star. He's the number

523
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 1: one person that you need to look out with. He

524
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 1: will be a champion, they said the local ago two

525
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 1: thousand nine. What do you are you twenty eight at

526
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 1: that point? Yeah, I'm twenty eight at that point. Okay,

527
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 1: just according to biologically, but as far as body, youth

528
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,639
Speaker 1: and just you know, being green in sport, I was.

529
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 1: I was a baby. I didn't you ever beer yet,

530
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 1: but you were. You might have been a little, you know,

531
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 1: a little late to start, but I mean that's really

532
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 1: when you hit your athletic prime as an athlete. Though

533
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 1: was a nine range, so you're right in prime for him,

534
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 1: So it's not surprised at all. Go ahead, Jack, So

535
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 1: what would you just Okay, I know you we bought

536
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 1: from the hood, and it's a it's an old term

537
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 1: of I'm like a pit bull ready to scratch. Yeah,

538
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 1: and I know you know what that means when uh,

539
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 1: a young T. Woodley. How could you best describe him?

540
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,919
Speaker 1: Was he a young people boy ready to scratch. I

541
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 1: never scratched, always big. I never scratched, like from the beginning,

542
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 1: like like when I came out, you know what, you

543
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 1: know what scratched me? Scratched me to scratch out the corner,

544
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying to the next dog. But

545
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 1: but I was always little though, So I was always little,

546
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 1: so I couldn't scratch. I had to I had to

547
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 1: go out to the biggest person always and had the

548
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,440
Speaker 1: bikes or I had to send a message. When I

549
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 1: grew up, I was tiny. I was a hundred and

550
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,400
Speaker 1: twelve pounds with my freshman in high school. And people

551
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 1: always tried me, and I'm like, you can try me,

552
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,400
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna suck you up. And people were looking

553
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 1: because I was so little, but I still my ground.

554
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 1: I meant it, and I was not losing no street

555
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 1: fights to nobody. So at the end of the day,

556
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 1: like you know, the young tyrant that he came out

557
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 1: blazing like everybody used to always be like just weather

558
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 1: the storm, but nobody could actually weather the storm. You

559
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 1: look at all my beginning fights. When he said, are

560
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,399
Speaker 1: you ready or you ready go the second he'd do

561
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 1: like that, you see somebody spread across the cage, octagon

562
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:51,880
Speaker 1: or whatever the hell they call it, and you see

563
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 1: somebody just swinging. It may have been technical and may

564
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 1: have may have not been the fanciest Floyd Mayweather, you know,

565
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,159
Speaker 1: razzle dazzle, but it can't even augusta wind. It was

566
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,160
Speaker 1: enough to make him off from holdong hol on, Now

567
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 1: what's going on right now? And I and I just

568
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 1: came out with that tenacity, and then I learned the

569
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 1: skill and then I learned the technique, and then I

570
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 1: had the i Q, and then I had the skill sets,

571
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 1: and then I had the game plan and the coach

572
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 1: and the training partner and the mentality and I put

573
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 1: that in there. But it came a time where I

574
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 1: kind of buried a little pit bull for a little

575
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 1: bit because I saw, you know, you started getting good technically,

576
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 1: and you're like, I just want to make everything a

577
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 1: chess match. Now. My coaches brought it out. Floyd said, no, Doc,

578
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 1: He said, hit this bag with them UFC punchers. He said,

579
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,640
Speaker 1: you boxed the myths, but you fight this damn back.

580
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 1: Exert yourself, exert yourself, exert yourself and he's still there,

581
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what I'm gonna do, not exert myself

582
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 1: before in front of Floyd Mayweather? Like no dog, Like

583
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 1: all I found it and guess what that pit bo

584
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 1: had to scratch and I found and I dug it.

585
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 1: So this whole training camp we kept that thing. And UM,

586
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 1: that's gonna be the difference from my my, my last

587
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 1: few lessons you guys may have view in the UFC

588
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 1: versus this session. I'm about the T shirt in this

589
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 1: boxing mesh. I got a question. So, I mean you

590
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 1: mentioned early on a dog maybe not as technically sound

591
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: as you learned to be. I kind of feel like

592
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 1: in the NBA, as talented as you are, it takes

593
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 1: you about three, four, maybe even five years to understand

594
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 1: how to play the NBA game. You could be a

595
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 1: super athlete. But until you kind of you you get

596
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 1: those years under your belt, you know, around your four

597
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 1: you start seeing you know, you start really seeing the

598
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 1: light as a fighter. What is it? How long do

599
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 1: you feel like that process? How many fights did you

600
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: feel like you you know, kind of had to get

601
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,679
Speaker 1: under your belt until you really started figuring out, like,

602
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 1: I know, what the funk this is all about now.

603
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,199
Speaker 1: Our sport tastes long agough to be honest, because you

604
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:47,239
Speaker 1: think about the sport of person jiu jitsu, eight year

605
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 1: old man doing that, it's you know, it's it's not

606
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 1: so much about how much you weigh in the force

607
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: you can apply. It's about if he wants to go

608
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 1: this way, let them go that way, but let me

609
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 1: have three or four things for him wants to get

610
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 1: on that side. So our score, Um, the guys are

611
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: really peeking between the ages of thirty five and probably

612
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 1: my ages when you go. That's what Anderson Sylvia was

613
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,679
Speaker 1: as best. That's when Daniel Cormier was his best. Because

614
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: you have the equal part of that pitboard that you

615
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 1: started with. You gain the skills heet, you've got the

616
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 1: experience now because you've been in there with the grades.

617
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 1: The older you get, the better you get, the higher

618
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: the competition. So the more complex of training camp is

619
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: and the tougher the fight is. Once you actually get

620
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 1: in there, you don't lose that experience. Jake doesn't have that.

621
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 1: He's never been in there with the Robbie Lawlers, the

622
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 1: that your born killers, the fucking guerrillas, the Darren Tills,

623
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: the up and coming fighters, the legendary fighters, the Hall

624
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: of Fame fighters. I've been in there with all of

625
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: them and now on one of them. So at the

626
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: end of the day, our sport, I believe that if

627
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: you started young as a freestyle fighter, meaning that you

628
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 1: don't come in with a base, it's gonna take you

629
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: ten years in my opinion, to really get to that

630
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: point where I'm looking at you like I will look

631
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: at a Max Holloway or something like that. If you

632
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: come in with a very very you know, great amateur

633
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: wrestling career or a very high level boxing career, only

634
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:10,719
Speaker 1: those two because those boxers drill all the time. So

635
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: when it comes down to drill and wrestling and jiujitsu,

636
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: there you send the custom to drilling a football player.

637
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 1: And if you a heavyweight, that's different, you know what

638
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: I mean. I feel like the heavyweights to do better

639
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 1: coming from other professional sports. But in general, I would

640
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: say ten year mark is the mark where you really

641
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 1: really started to like, you know, become untouchable. And then

642
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: if you can take care of your body, don't flows

643
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: your body with fucking p ds and sterborates and all

644
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 1: this other stuff, and you actually maintain a good humble mindset,

645
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: and you're learning skill sets as you go prior to

646
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: your twelve and fourteen markets when you're gonna go to

647
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: That's what I feel like. So you mentioned it earlier,

648
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: shout out Showtime. Obviously they pay because they pay us.

649
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: But you made your Showtime debut in two thousand nine,

650
00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 1: almost a twelve years later, you're back on Showtime in

651
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 1: the biggest fight of the year in boxing. How does

652
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: that feel? It feels amazing, because you know they really

653
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 1: they give you a chance to be a star. If

654
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 1: you're a star, you'll start. If you're not, you're not.

655
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, you gotta be

656
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: a lot of that chance to show. And I feel

657
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: like the promotion, I feel like all the even just

658
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: the posters, even just the like I don't know if

659
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: you guys saw the promo, but if you haven't got

660
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: a chance of thirty seconds, you know me will sh

661
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 1: It's scrolling on I g so you look at it's

662
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: just like he's selecting somebody. He selected me. I can't

663
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: see him. I'm on the other side. I graphically, motherfucker,

664
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: I select you too, and then we're going to wore

665
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: a boom. He's this a polarizing figure out of YouTube

666
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 1: sensation Boom Tyron Woodie. Now now they're making it known

667
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: that this is a motherfucking fight. Y'all said, oh, you'll

668
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: want to do but at least this kid he stepped up.

669
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: Let's be real. He didn't have to pick me. He

670
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: could have paid Tyson Fury because they could have picked

671
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: the other little belt or dude, he could have picked

672
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: some other person. Boxing usually builds up. This motherfucker's stepped

673
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 1: in front of a real person that is going to

674
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: try to knock his head off his neck, and you

675
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: gotta give him credit. Forward. So now the promo was

676
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: shown us this is a fight. So you spent three

677
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: years oh nine to two thousand twelve and Strike Force.

678
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: What was that transition like to the UFC. Uh? You know,

679
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: obviously if UFC is at the top of the game

680
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: or you know, the top of the pyramid when it

681
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 1: comes to m M A fighting, What was it like

682
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: when you finally made that transition? It was? It was?

683
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: It was it like a high school to college jump.

684
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: You know, we kind of say sometimes that college to

685
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: the league jump is serious. Like, what kind of difference

686
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: did you see in fighters from the UFC opposed to

687
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: the Strike Force. No, I mean we blessed. We blessed

688
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 1: the UFC. They're lucky to have us. We we came

689
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: and we put swag into the organization. Our belt was better,

690
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: Our walk Toway division was way deeper. Our championshi were better.

691
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,479
Speaker 1: Like you gotta do your math. Came Alaska's strike for us.

692
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 1: Day Cremier strike for us, the Man, the new strike

693
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,239
Speaker 1: for us, Rhonda Rossy strike for us. Mr Strike for us.

694
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: We can him over and every took named. Robbie Lawler,

695
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 1: strike for Syrol Woodley, strike for us. All of the

696
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: champions at one point in time were from Strike for US,

697
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 1: and we came over. We had the best year in

698
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: two thousand and ten, were the best heavyweight division. We

699
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: had fighter and the ankle. Daniel Cormian was the alternate pick.

700
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 1: He wasn't even in the tournament. He got in because

701
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 1: somebody got injury. He had Josh Barnett, you had, you know,

702
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: everybody could think of. Dan Henderson was strike for us.

703
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: All these different people were in Strike for us. So

704
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: at that time that we came over, the UFC they

705
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 1: bought us because we were too big of a competitors

706
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: they had a lot of injuries, that had a lot

707
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: of fight cars go out. They had a lot of

708
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: lackluster fights, and we was lit. We was cracking. It

709
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: was the craziest year ever so for us and for

710
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: me particular, I had one tended. Oh, I was undefeated.

711
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: I never saw myself losing in the sport. And um,

712
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: I got knocked out in the world title fight, my

713
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: first world title fight. I got knocked out, first and

714
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: only fight by kids came to already had a shelf

715
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: in the gym for the belt. I never thought I

716
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: was gonna lose, and I got crushed, and I was

717
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: kind of depressed, and you know what I mean. I

718
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 1: went in a little corner for a minute, but I said,

719
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: fun that man. I came out and I had to

720
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 1: show people. So my first UFC fight, and never forget it,

721
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: I fought against Jay Heron, which was my dog by

722
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: the way, I knocked him out in thirty six seconds

723
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: and this to the day, one of the fastest, most

724
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: electrifying blitzers across the octagon. I pushed them so many

725
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: times and I had to let people, I say, guess

726
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: what wealth the way So I'm here now and everybody

727
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: data pulled me into the back. He said, that's how

728
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: you do it. That's how you show two million people

729
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: what it's all about. We're gonna take care of you

730
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 1: at the UFC. Love your tenacity, love your your abilities. Man.

731
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 1: You everybody's talking about showing the internet out of all.

732
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: So I had to let my fucus know. And that's

733
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: that's kind of what I did in my first fight.

734
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: So I was already coined is as someone to look

735
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: out for. And then I took a bump my last

736
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: fight and strike for us. I lost and then they

737
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: got bought out. I didn't get a chance to redeem myself.

738
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: So when I came to the UFC, I had to

739
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 1: turn up mm hm. So fast forward three years later.

740
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: You know, you have a chance to become the walterweight champion.

741
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: You defeat Robbie Lawler and UFC two oh one. What

742
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 1: do you remember about that special night? I just remember

743
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 1: about the night that. Um. I feel like I had

744
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:21,399
Speaker 1: been in this position before, and you know, I didn't

745
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:22,879
Speaker 1: want to I didn't want to shoot down my leg

746
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: this time. I want to make sure I got it done.

747
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: You know, UM, I always used to imagine the n

748
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 1: C double A's and wrestling, and they got that one

749
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 1: mat to one stage. You come in there and get

750
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 1: everybody came running from one corner, stumped on the mats,

751
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 1: and I just knew I was gonna see that at

752
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 1: least by my senior year and win the n C

753
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 1: Double A title. And I never got that. So this

754
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 1: was my version of that. And when I got to

755
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: that point where I was in there, I'm like, it's nothing,

756
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 1: It's nothing that's gonna stop me from when there's nothing

757
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,439
Speaker 1: that's gonna stop me from, when there's nothing that's gonna

758
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 1: stop me from whinning. And I just remember being so determined.

759
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 1: I just remember that that the thought of defeat was

760
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 1: not even in my mind. It was like, what Ron

761
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 1: and I gonna do it in? That's all. I kept thinking,

762
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: what round am I gonna do it in? And um,

763
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: you know, I got the opportunity. I sensed a little

764
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 1: fear in him. I did a couple of things that really,

765
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 1: you know, I saw a showcasing on the wrestling and Robbie,

766
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 1: remember we should be training partners, We were teammates. He

767
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: was a buddy, and my kids loved him, my ex

768
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: wife loved him. They we were fans of him, you

769
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: know what I mean, because it's such a humble guy,

770
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: and I saw a level changing, like I was going

771
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,399
Speaker 1: for a shot. He dropped his hands like overly compensated

772
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 1: because he remember those hours in those days when I

773
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: throw him around like a rag doll and wrestling, and

774
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 1: he was really scared of it. So I said, oh,

775
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: so I shook it off, circled around to the right,

776
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 1: came back right in front of him. I did that

777
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: same lovely change. He dropped them hands and I went

778
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: outside his head, bob and he was down. Then I

779
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: just do a couple of extra on hers, just in case,

780
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 1: because he was tough. And then at that point, like

781
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 1: the just a lion jumped out my body. And it

782
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: was like everybody that said I couldn't do with everybody

783
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: that thought he was just gonna knock me out. I've

784
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 1: been down for eight months. I was injured, and everybody

785
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: has so much to say. And I didn't deserve this fight,

786
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 1: and I was gonna lose. And I was a fucking speedbag.

787
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: I was easy walk. He was just gonna mark me,

788
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 1: and I was just really like I said, let me

789
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: show you, motherfucker's how great I am. And that's probably

790
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 1: why I like that Mohammad Ali quote the most. What

791
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,439
Speaker 1: was the biggest difference from training from boxing to from

792
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 1: m m A to UFC. What's the biggest difference, I

793
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: think the biggest. The biggest differences in MM may we

794
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 1: get a lot, we get away with a lot. So

795
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: when I boxed, some coaches are working with us. They

796
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: don't want to one. They don't want to lose as

797
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: a card too. They don't want to, you know, change

798
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: what we've done and our stances are a little bit

799
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 1: more wider. You know, we're able to throw punches, more

800
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 1: sharp punches and make noise and it look cool. But

801
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: they're more on extending your punches. Everything has to has

802
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: defense before defense afterwards meaningful punches. Where are you putting

803
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,439
Speaker 1: and why are you throwing that? You know what I mean?

804
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: Every time somebody throws something, don't just make a miss,

805
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 1: make them pay. So I think the suicidens of boxing.

806
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 1: For me, it's been great to learn. I love it,

807
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 1: but it's also been the most difficult because I got

808
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: so many years conditioned and allowed to throw techniques with

809
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 1: one hand down, not pivot in the lead, narrow being

810
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 1: on why target, because I could always tell my coach

811
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,879
Speaker 1: Brown coach Eric Brown in l A, Well, I'm set

812
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: up this way because if he kicks my leg, I

813
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 1: can just turn out and check. Or if I need

814
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: to get a take down, I can take him down.

815
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: Or if he comes for a shot, I'd need to

816
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: be squared to to to defend him. Or you know

817
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: he made through an elbow instead of this, So this

818
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: is why my hands position like. We got to make

819
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: a lot of excuses and box him. You don't like

820
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: when I when I get off here, I'm gonna take

821
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: a nap and I gotta go spar pro boxing. And

822
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: the last time I coach had you lost two of

823
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 1: these rounds. This is why this is what you did.

824
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 1: You were winning this round. This is where you gave

825
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: it away. This is where you let him look like

826
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 1: he was more regressor. So I gotta I gotta compartmentalize

827
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 1: that when I go onto the night, I'm not gonna

828
00:37:53,360 --> 00:38:03,439
Speaker 1: lose one around to night. Yea, So Floyd was giving

829
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: you advice, obviously, it kind of made it seem like you.

830
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,320
Speaker 1: You mentioned earlier that he wanted to kind of prepare

831
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 1: you to be a champion. So is he training you?

832
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: Did he give you advice, like, how is Floyd helped

833
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: you prepare for this fight? Yeah, we I checked in

834
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 1: with Floyd weekly. His his trainer on G teams. You

835
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 1: guys may know his trained and Floyd Mayweather. He trains

836
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 1: Javonte Davis. He trains Adrian Browner, and he's one of

837
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 1: the top trainers. You know, he was one of the

838
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 1: top boxes at the time when he was competing. So

839
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: the first time I trained with with Floyd, he was there,

840
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: he was one of the facilitate most of the mint.

841
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: They both was evaluating my technique, my shot of box

842
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 1: and my bag work and just making notes. And then

843
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,359
Speaker 1: I trained with both of those guys again, and then

844
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 1: Floyd told him, he said, I want you to stay

845
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: here in Miami. I don't need you traveling. I don't

846
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: need you moving around. I need you to be here

847
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: for him every day. Everything he need I needed him

848
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 1: to have in like Clockwart every morning, he run with me.

849
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 1: Every day we're working out. He's calling him a Sean cool.

850
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 1: He was a part of the reason why I didn't

851
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: go out to l A said, can you do this remotely?

852
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: I want you to stay put. You know what I mean.

853
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 1: I haven't been home to see my kids. I missing

854
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 1: it out of my daughter and my son's so at

855
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 1: the end of the day, Um, you know, I had

856
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: a conversation with Floor which I can't share yesterday. But

857
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 1: Floyd don't sunk around man when you when he feels

858
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: like you his people, he don't play like he makes

859
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: it happy. He moves mountains. And it was something small,

860
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 1: but he turned up as if it was like something

861
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: fucking ginormous, and I'm like, man, this is motherfucker. Don't

862
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 1: working around about me. So he I think he. I

863
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 1: think he respects how professional I am, how hard I'm working,

864
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,439
Speaker 1: and just from the reports back from GT how how

865
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: good I'm getting to be honest, I don't know how

866
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: to have supput it in such a sharp period of time.

867
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: Switching lanes a little bit. Uh, you do a little

868
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: acting in your spare time. Tell us how you came

869
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: up on that straight out of Compton role, and how

870
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: how was that experience working in such a legendary movie.

871
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 1: You know, my my Homilynoing was doing some in the

872
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: Stone choreography for and I was kind of joking when

873
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: I find out he got it. You know, he's also

874
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: sistered and directed Cobra Kai you know as a phenomenal

875
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: director now, but he started as a stunt performer and

876
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 1: stunt coordinator, second Union director, and then he moved up

877
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 1: to director. So I remember sending them pictures are like

878
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 1: me dressed up as a gang banger and media red

879
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: flying on me in blue and I was like, well, fuck,

880
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,479
Speaker 1: you better put me in this movie or I'm beating

881
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: your ass. Like that's that's literally what I thought. And

882
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,439
Speaker 1: then I was I was kind of like, of course

883
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: I wanted to be in a movie. But then I

884
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 1: actually kind of was sending into him kind of like funny.

885
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 1: But he started sending those pictures to Ice Cube and

886
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 1: f Gary Gray, and then f Gary Gray and Cube said,

887
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: I like his look, we want to pick They picked

888
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: me for the for the movie. It wasn't based on

889
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,919
Speaker 1: M M A. It wasn't based on you know, who

890
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: I was, because I wasn't really nothing at that time,

891
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 1: to be clear. So they picked me because I had

892
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 1: a very convincing look. And then actually once I got there,

893
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: I was supposed to do a different role and I

894
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:57,839
Speaker 1: was like, they wanted me to cut my beard off,

895
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh ship, I long a Doug, come

896
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: my beard off and then at the very last minute,

897
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 1: Cube said no, I want him to play t Bone

898
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: from the Lynch Mob right, keep his beard. So I

899
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: went from a couple of days to six weeks with

900
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,280
Speaker 1: a supporting role. I got my little bars under my lines.

901
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: But I was in so many different seas in the movie,

902
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: so that's kind of how that came about. And I

903
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,439
Speaker 1: don't do acting on the side. I'm a artists all around.

904
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 1: I do everything on the top um. The sport and

905
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: mixed martial arts is the art that I started first,

906
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 1: so of course I'm gonna be further along. But music, movies, producing, podcasts,

907
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 1: and television show writing, all those forms of art I participated.

908
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 1: And I don't allow people to to minimize or to

909
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 1: try to make me stay and just punch or staying

910
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 1: just due to work behind the desk, you know. I mean,

911
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 1: anything that God gave me, any gift that he gave me,

912
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pursue. And I'm good at all of them,

913
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: but it's gonna take more time for some of these.

914
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: It's like an equalizer. You don't kick them all up

915
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 1: at the same time, you know what I mean. The

916
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: dial for wrestling was there first, and then it was

917
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: mixed martial arts and then after I smoked Jake on

918
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: the twenty ninth of August and Cleveland, Ohio. You're gonna

919
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: see that one jumped up real quick just because of

920
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: the platform that is given. But musically as an actor,

921
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: as a writer, as a producer, and soon I probably

922
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: end up directing. Um, you're gonna see all those things

923
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: go to the top and to the point where you

924
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: just give me credited as an artist performing art. And

925
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: I picked the canvas. You don't pick the canvas, you know,

926
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: And that's that's that's what I want the fans to

927
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: know about me. How did you get the nickname that

928
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 1: was on one? Uh? It came from just basically, you know,

929
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: I was t Wood and you know, my my, my

930
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: guys just call me hot Sauce. Ain't because I joked

931
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: him and I was like when Ben Aston was a

932
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: wrestler and all these other guys like, what's your nickname?

933
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: I said, well, don't call me coach because I was

934
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: just your teammate five minutes ago. I said, if you're

935
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 1: gonna call me something, to call me coach Hot Sauce.

936
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 1: I was joking, and they started calling me hot sauce,

937
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:55,720
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I'm not from another damn hot sauce

938
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: because at that time it was and one cat, you

939
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So I was like, no, I

940
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 1: can't do that. You know. Then when I right before

941
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: I switched from Strike Force to UFC, I wanted and

942
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 1: I wanted a new slate. I wanted. I wanted to

943
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 1: I didn't want to be t Wood the more. And

944
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 1: then um, I saw thinking about my life and diversity

945
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: and why I came from and how many times I

946
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,760
Speaker 1: was never supposed to make it. I was never supposed

947
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: to be here. I was never supposed to, you know,

948
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 1: make it out of why I even lived at let's know,

949
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,879
Speaker 1: graduated high school, college or do anything. And I feel

950
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 1: like God chose me for this. He chose my life,

951
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: He chose my body as a vessel to use. So

952
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: when people see me run across this cage or knock

953
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: somebody out or you know the capitate Jake Paul, they're like, man,

954
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: how And I'm always say him. So I feel like

955
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 1: he shows me for this. You know, he put me

956
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: in position to do this. He gave me the right resources,

957
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: the family, everybody in my family. But like you said,

958
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna liven or thirteen. They didn't go to no

959
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: band camp, they didn't go to the track and field camp.

960
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: They couldn't do basketball, we couldn't go to the movies.

961
00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 1: We showed on each other in the live room. That

962
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,919
Speaker 1: was our apollo. So they invested it to me. And

963
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: when they did that, I felt obligated to turn up

964
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: for our last name. And I did so. And and

965
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 1: now my family model for my kids, just make your

966
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: name great. My son is a four parte students senior

967
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: in high school um recruited by Yale, Harvard, Stanford, North Korea,

968
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: North Carolina, North Dakota State, Kansas State. He's gonna go

969
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 1: to Vision one for football and he's made his name great.

970
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 1: And my other sons a soccer player ten years old

971
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: on the select team. My daughter is a recording artist.

972
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 1: She's also just you know, a whole personality. She's the

973
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: one that really shot a camera in front of her.

974
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 1: And my other son is the fifth fastest running back

975
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: in the entire country at thirteen years old. So my

976
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 1: kids have made their name great. And they learned from me.

977
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: They learn from my mistakes, they learn from what I

978
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 1: did well. But one thing they never seen me do

979
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 1: is quick ever fact alright, quick hitters. Now we're coming

980
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,839
Speaker 1: down to the end of the interview. So first thing

981
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 1: to come to mind. Let it go, Jack, go ahead,

982
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: you got him top five rappers of all a time.

983
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: Oh we gotta go with number one. I gotta go

984
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 1: with tupac Um. Nobody moved moved my spirit and just

985
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: made me really listen to him like that, I'm gonna

986
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 1: jump around a little bit. These are not like in order.

987
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: After that he number one for me always, Like Kendrick Lamar,

988
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: he was so creative, almost introverts to the point where

989
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: he was almost a genius where he just couldn't even

990
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: socialize normally. Um. And then she just because not so

991
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 1: much about the lyrical he was. He was lyrically phenomenal.

992
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: But what he's still for he actually gave away and

993
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 1: showed people how to get to the bag and how

994
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 1: to uplift the community. He showed it. Um, joining the

995
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 1: Lucas is a home of mine. But also I just

996
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: love his consistency and his persistence as a MC, his

997
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 1: ability to change his flow, how fast he can wrap,

998
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: how slow he can wrap, what he can talk about

999
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: the beats, the concept of visuals. He's he's an artist. Um,

1000
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 1: you know, he should really consider acting. I don't know

1001
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 1: if he has or not, but he's a phenomenal artist

1002
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: and here recently, to be real honest, like, I've just

1003
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: been listening to a lot of drill music because my

1004
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: mind has just been kind of you know, in that position,

1005
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 1: just the one that just fuck him up. So, um,

1006
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: when I think about drill music, you gotta just go

1007
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: ahead and go one of the ogs, like the locks,

1008
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 1: because I don't know if y'all saw what happened the

1009
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: other day with Jada. Kiss is a whole other dude,

1010
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: And I want to say, oh, another something else, but

1011
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:31,399
Speaker 1: I really he was that, and he was that as

1012
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,240
Speaker 1: something so I want to he wasn't. He was always

1013
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 1: someone I looked up to and I thought he was phenomenal.

1014
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 1: He's never had a bad verse in my mind, but

1015
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 1: the way he handled that, the way he performed that,

1016
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 1: his tone, his delivery, he didn't forget one line of

1017
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,399
Speaker 1: no Worse, and his mixtape Ship was on the on

1018
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 1: the heads of most people's deluxe albums. I really now

1019
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: think that he's now on the top five there a lot,

1020
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 1: so Jenny Kiss gotta get in there and we got

1021
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,399
Speaker 1: to say shout out to Marathon clothes and I got

1022
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 1: my box and you see i'm fitted today. I ain't

1023
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 1: open my box. Yes, shout out Marathon, but also too

1024
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 1: we had a chance to have We had Jada a

1025
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 1: week before the the verses at the garden and he

1026
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: was excited. I thought it was dope because if you

1027
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: look at everyone had Dip set, everyone had Dip set on.

1028
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: Dip Set's gonna do this, Dip said, it's gonna do that.

1029
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: Jada really came throughing fucked all that ship up, yeah,

1030
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 1: Dip said. Dip said, I mean, I'm a fan of

1031
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 1: different They're great entertainers, but they're not better wrappers. Yeah.

1032
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: Not not only that, Like this is the thing if

1033
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,399
Speaker 1: I was, if I was, then which I'm not them,

1034
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: there them come out off the gate. I really mean it, um,

1035
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 1: Dip said at them. You know, hey, mab From the

1036
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 1: beginning they waited until the end was too late that

1037
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: there was so many nails in the casket by time

1038
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 1: they got to them songs, and it was like it

1039
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:54,879
Speaker 1: was to the point where I felt like had they

1040
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: did that, maybe it would have been different. But I

1041
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: still don't think it was enough. It was. It was

1042
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 1: when when they were DJ Tech shout out to him.

1043
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 1: I don't even know him to shot him out, but

1044
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, every time they wanted to change the

1045
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 1: direction and to order the sequence, he was right there.

1046
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 1: Um Santanna said something about do they even like the ladies? Said,

1047
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 1: do I like the ladies? Boom? Mary J Blige booms,

1048
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 1: j Low boom. He was like, we got Grammys. What

1049
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 1: you talking a carry? Yeah, Like like there was instant

1050
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: like oatmeal, and I just feel like that level of

1051
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 1: entertainment and entertainers and real bars matters and just styles

1052
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 1: peple Like I was, I was kind of want to

1053
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: see how people we're gonna deal with Jim Jones balling

1054
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: songs versus I get high. They could have lot. They

1055
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 1: should have just let them go heads up because they

1056
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:45,439
Speaker 1: was gonna head up on I g anyway. Yeah, yeah,

1057
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 1: Jada Kiss and Cameron, But you can't really put Cameron

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00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 1: on the same level Jada Kiss because at the time

1059
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,399
Speaker 1: Cameron came out, we didn't hear before and he had

1060
00:48:55,560 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: he was super drippy, super crafty. But um, like Jada's iconic,

1061
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:05,399
Speaker 1: He's legendary, he's classic, he's Timeless. You can go back

1062
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: and grab some of those records from twenty years ago

1063
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 1: and they can go head some with a lot of

1064
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 1: records now. So overall, I like the band. So I

1065
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 1: liked it back and forth. I like what it did

1066
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 1: for the for hip hop, for for you know, New

1067
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 1: York City in particular, but in general. Jada Kiss just

1068
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 1: as a different monster man. He came out like crazy,

1069
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 1: crazy shout out Jada Kiss. Episode dropping soon. You can

1070
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 1: go back to one sporting event and watch it live.

1071
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 1: Which one would it be and why any sporting event? Hey,

1072
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 1: Mike Tyson against Holy Few when he beat his here,

1073
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 1: I want to see his face and when he was

1074
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,479
Speaker 1: thinking when he did that, Like what went through his mind?

1075
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 1: That saut I'm black blacked out off, like not not

1076
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: nibble my man, he beat that motherfucker off. So I

1077
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 1: gotta be that one, like I wanted to say, I

1078
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 1: was there and I saw it. Soundtrack to the lead

1079
00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 1: up to Your Big Fight three songs and three all

1080
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: the that same rotation to this ask whipping You're about

1081
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 1: to give Jake Um ambitious of a Rider, tupac Um.

1082
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:14,879
Speaker 1: It's a song, Yeah, Kilmo, Kilmo is a song pop

1083
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: smoke new album called thirty. It's basically somebody if you

1084
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 1: think it's weep all up. Um in my track, I

1085
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 1: gotta track called Go Big and I can't announce the

1086
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:27,359
Speaker 1: feature on it. We're about to shoot this video Monday. Um,

1087
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: but the dude. The dude only make kids only platinum songs.

1088
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 1: But it's a song called Go Big, produced by Hitmaker

1089
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: and Chris Sewn. Those guys are phenomenal. Shout out to them.

1090
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 1: Make a sound. Um, but it's really an anthem song.

1091
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 1: It's really a license songs and it's encouraging everybody. Fuck

1092
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:46,479
Speaker 1: winning the title, fuck being this and being good. Let's

1093
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,760
Speaker 1: go big and everything. Let's go big on the podcast

1094
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,879
Speaker 1: Let's Go Big, Yeah, go big on Big And it's

1095
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: a really motivated song. This last two years has been

1096
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 1: shitty for a lot of people, pandemic politics, and we've

1097
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 1: been down now with timeing to level of Let's go big.

1098
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 1: It's trillions out here if people, if anybody can put

1099
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 1: a big toe on them more, I can. So the

1100
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: god Big song is gonna be an anthem. You're gonna

1101
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 1: hear the lock onoms, You're gonna hear it on your speaker,

1102
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,320
Speaker 1: You're gonna hear it everywhere, So that's gonna be dropping

1103
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 1: right before the fight. It's going to be the walkout

1104
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 1: to the fight. I'm gonna save the feature for for

1105
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: later on. You guys, mean, y'all see it. It's gonna

1106
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 1: be very very sooner for the moment, and I'm excited

1107
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 1: about that. So yeah, go big. We're going to season three,

1108
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 1: so we're gonna go big on big two. Boom boom,

1109
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 1: there we go. Top five Dinner guests Debt or Alive?

1110
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,760
Speaker 1: So at dinner Debt or Alive? Who who you plus

1111
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:44,879
Speaker 1: five at that table? Oh? Debt? A live wiz, never

1112
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 1: been in a bad mood around him. Wis Khalifa shout

1113
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:51,320
Speaker 1: out to him. He gave me my first super cool,

1114
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 1: super super super great at business, but also good at

1115
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 1: keeping all money and bringing his homies up, bringing his

1116
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:02,280
Speaker 1: family forth, and it's teaching them way to make money legally. Um,

1117
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 1: Jamie Fox, because he's a comedian, he's an actor, he's

1118
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 1: a singer, he's just a fire ass homie. So definitely him.

1119
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: Who else? I gotta get some females in here. I'm

1120
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 1: trying to pick somebody that ain't brewed up because I

1121
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 1: don't want to disaffect nobody. Um, Nil Long, I know

1122
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,319
Speaker 1: she got a man, but she's just so classic. She

1123
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 1: just get better with time. And um, you know, she's

1124
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,959
Speaker 1: been in some remarkable films and she's just really made

1125
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: culture shift in a whole different way. So Nil Long, Um,

1126
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,280
Speaker 1: let me see, let me get some athletes in this mug.

1127
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just invite my tool armies right here we're doing.

1128
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 1: That's fine, barns and stack. Now we up. We're gonna

1129
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: medicate again. Yeah, the person, the person that we've been

1130
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 1: attitude that so we gotta hold up. There we go,

1131
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm hold myself to that minus the others.

1132
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 1: I can't vounce with others I get with and Jamie.

1133
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 1: But Nil Long, maybe out we put enough. We definitely

1134
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:06,319
Speaker 1: pull it up for sure. Celebration. If you can have

1135
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 1: one guest on all the smoke, who would it be?

1136
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 1: But before you answer, you have to help us with

1137
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:15,879
Speaker 1: your answer. All right, all right, I have to help

1138
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 1: you get the person on there that that's smart. You

1139
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 1: guys are real smart for that. Um, you see, who

1140
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 1: can I get on your show that I think will

1141
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 1: be dope? I would say Floyd Maywell? Has he been

1142
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 1: on there. Yere good call my dog Floyd. Hey tell

1143
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 1: Floyd will come wherever he's at. Two were in there.

1144
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:40,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do my best to try to make that happen.

1145
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: Appreciate it. Closing thoughts, Man August twenty night, Ohio. Lights on,

1146
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 1: bells about to ring. What could we expect that night

1147
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 1: from you? Closing thoughts August twenty nights, Cleaveland, Ohio. You're

1148
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 1: gonna see Tyron. Would look up at the sky. He's

1149
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 1: gonna take a deep breath, then free it in that

1150
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 1: fresh wind. The Holy Spirit will into my body and

1151
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 1: it would be lights on and would very very quickly

1152
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 1: be lights out and nothing that. You may not see

1153
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:10,720
Speaker 1: any celebration. Let me see Stone Cold walk off. Because

1154
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:13,879
Speaker 1: I am a champion, and champions wins fights. I'm gonna

1155
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 1: go out there. I'm gonna do what I'm supposed to do.

1156
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna salute my coaches, I'm gonna hug up my family,

1157
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 1: and this is the beginning of my new reign. You

1158
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 1: will see me at the top for a very long time. Biologically,

1159
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 1: I can give a funk less about what the a say.

1160
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:30,320
Speaker 1: My mind, my spirit, my body, everything is in tune.

1161
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 1: I'm excited about the opportunity. I'm blessed to get a

1162
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: second chance. This time, I will do it the right way.

1163
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 1: I would get glory where it goes, and I'm gonna

1164
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 1: let people know what's possible. Pretend your solo cameras, Jake,

1165
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 1: we gave him the same opportunity. What you want to

1166
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 1: say to him, I ain't got nothing to say to you.

1167
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna show you. I'm from the show Me stay

1168
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 1: m M M. August Showtime pay per View, Cruiserweight Boxing

1169
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 1: Mega event Time and would leave versus Jake. Paul Sunday

1170
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 1: will be front row everyone, all of our fans. Make

1171
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 1: sure you tune in Showtime pay per View. Best of

1172
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 1: luck to you, Bro. Appreciate you. When you get back

1173
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 1: to l A, I got something waiting on you. We're

1174
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 1: gonna get up burnt until then, Bro, best of luck.

1175
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 1: Appreciate you. I appreciate it. Appreciate it. Good luck. Take

1176
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 1: This is all a smoke. A production of The Black

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Speaker 1: Effect and Our Heart Radio in partnership with Showtime