WEBVTT - Muni Long 0:00:05.559 --> 0:00:14.320 We all take take VALI. We are the authorities all 0:00:14.480 --> 0:00:20.680 things R and B. Ladies and gentlemen, what's going on. 0:00:20.720 --> 0:00:23.520 My name is Tank and this is the R and 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:30.720 B Money Podcast, the authority all things R and B. M. 0:00:33.159 --> 0:00:38.239 It's one of those days. Um, we got somebody in 0:00:38.280 --> 0:00:42.680 the building that has been doing it, been doing it 0:00:42.760 --> 0:00:47.000 high level, high level, high level, not just not just 0:00:47.120 --> 0:00:50.000 in one space, not just in one area, as I 0:00:50.040 --> 0:00:52.280 say from from the d n B, in all areas. 0:00:53.000 --> 0:00:56.040 But it's thing was, we're trying to teach you artists 0:00:56.480 --> 0:00:59.160 to be able to do it all so that your 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:03.560 creativity is in the palm of your hands. You control 0:01:04.080 --> 0:01:08.520 your own destiny. She's gonna be around for a long time. 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:12.320 It's a great use of words. She's making a lot 0:01:12.360 --> 0:01:23.800 of money. Yeah, bring it on, Bring it Citi. That 0:01:23.920 --> 0:01:27.160 was amazing introduction. You're doing it. He's really good at that. 0:01:27.240 --> 0:01:31.240 You're doing it. Thank you, Thank you, Thank you for 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:38.080 being good at your craft, taking your craft seriously, perfecting 0:01:38.160 --> 0:01:41.840 it and and and taking whatever time you've needed in 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:47.000 whatever space you've been in to do it the right way. Successfully. 0:01:47.480 --> 0:01:51.880 Success speaks to it. But as people who actually do it, 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:58.600 we hear the difference outside of it being amazingly successful, 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:03.720 it is is it is rich in the hours that 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:13.639 you've put in. I see what you did working yea't 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:18.320 be money. So thank you, um, thank you. Well. First, 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:20.800 I have to tell this story before. I know you 0:02:20.800 --> 0:02:24.840 didn't ask for it, but uh, this is a full 0:02:24.840 --> 0:02:27.200 circle moment for me, because I don't know if you 0:02:27.240 --> 0:02:31.200 remember this. There was a friends and family Grammy party 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:34.000 years ago when I first first came to l A 0:02:34.600 --> 0:02:39.880 before I knew about stylists and makeup and looked very country, right. Um. 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:44.800 I come in and I'm overwhelmed. Immediately, it's all these lights. 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:48.520 I'm seeing, you know, people I recognize. I'm like, you know, 0:02:50.160 --> 0:02:52.839 And I walked to the back and you and you 0:02:53.040 --> 0:02:58.680 are standing there, and I just remember saying out loud, 0:02:58.840 --> 0:03:01.440 I don't feel like I'm supposed to be here, and 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:05.160 you turned around immediately was like no, you put your 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:07.360 hands on my shoulders like you're supposed to be everywhere 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:10.440 you are, And I just remember that. That stuck with 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:14.520 me forever. That's crazy. And then I spent the rest 0:03:14.560 --> 0:03:16.840 of the night like joking and laughing, dancing with you guys. 0:03:17.840 --> 0:03:25.359 That was my first Hollywood party. Two eight, a long 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:27.080 time ago. I remember what I had on. I hadn't 0:03:27.120 --> 0:03:36.880 like this purple play was very ugly outfit. I was like, 0:03:37.760 --> 0:03:41.440 nineteen or twenty is very you know, green to know anything, 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:46.600 and that was my first experience in Hollywood. Good thing. 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:49.080 You're not an asshole, but you know what it is though, 0:03:49.120 --> 0:03:55.680 it's like, why be that? There's no reason to be. 0:03:56.280 --> 0:03:58.560 And You've always been the same every time I see you, 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:01.680 even if I'm just like in the corner, you know, 0:04:01.800 --> 0:04:04.400 being quiet in the room, because I know how to 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:06.240 do that. A lot of people don't know how to 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:09.240 just Lady Bart, I've been in many rooms. You've always 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:11.840 been the same. I just like I enjoy what I 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:16.440 do and I want the people around me, whether I 0:04:16.520 --> 0:04:19.920 know them or not, to have a good time at 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:24.400 least in that moment, because all of this can get 0:04:24.760 --> 0:04:27.960 as you're in this room, can get overwhelming, you know 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:31.040 what I mean. And I learned that from Jamie Fox 0:04:31.920 --> 0:04:39.240 of always making sure people feel important involved, you know 0:04:39.240 --> 0:04:41.360 what I mean. And so you know that that's that's 0:04:41.360 --> 0:04:43.160 something I had to learn, you know what I mean. 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:46.000 And that is crazy. Isn't that a trick? That's a 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:47.960 trick to stay in around for a long time. Is 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:51.520 is that you are kind and you make people feel 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:55.760 warm and they always remember. I mean, I remember that 0:04:56.040 --> 0:05:02.039 people have to change you sometimes in spite of you know, 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:06.000 your gift right, and in spite of the record selling 0:05:06.080 --> 0:05:10.039 and the records playing and all these people showing. Sometimes 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:15.039 it's like, you know what, I actually I like them. 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:18.440 Let's get it. A long way goes a long long. 0:05:18.520 --> 0:05:23.839 I have not always had the best record, chart topping record, 0:05:24.680 --> 0:05:27.560 the million records sale first we got man, none of that. 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:32.240 But I love people. And so if it's if it's 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:35.480 your it's your daughter's birthday, call on FaceTime. I'm sinking 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:37.640 happy birthday. You know what I'm saying. If it's if 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:39.760 it's your grandma's birthday, I'm gonna give her a lap dance. 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:43.920 Like it's all. I mean, listen, I do different things 0:05:44.000 --> 0:05:46.800 to make sure that this money keeps coming in. Understand 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:51.200 saying booked me at okay, I'm just playing anyway. Um. 0:05:51.400 --> 0:05:52.839 First of all, shout out to you, Thank you for 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:54.800 coming through, Thank you for rolling through. I know you 0:05:54.839 --> 0:05:59.839 are busy. I know this because I know the people 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:04.080 you know and I know your business. I could not 0:06:04.279 --> 0:06:08.159 miss being a part of this. You know, it's important 0:06:08.400 --> 0:06:15.000 culturally and that's being part of the girl. Yeah, you're 0:06:15.000 --> 0:06:17.320 creating a space for R and B to like flourish, 0:06:17.400 --> 0:06:19.600 and we're gonna keep growing it with your health and 0:06:19.640 --> 0:06:23.360 so you know what we love to do here is 0:06:24.720 --> 0:06:27.320 we're about the origin. We're about the beginning. We're about 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:32.800 the moment where someone said to you, baby, you got something, 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:37.640 or you realize yourself in awakening at a moment like 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:44.040 this could be something. Take us back to Florida. Let's 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:50.000 go back to Florida. That's going on back. I don't know. 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:53.440 I think I had like a moment. Everybody in my family, 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:57.120 my mom is saying, you know, it's very musical household. 0:06:57.440 --> 0:07:01.360 So I didn't realize that it wasn't normal, you know. 0:07:02.400 --> 0:07:05.800 Um I think I still have challenges with that sometimes 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:11.600 just being like nothing, you know. Uh. But it was 0:07:11.640 --> 0:07:14.720 always singing. It was like we used to have singing competitions. 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:16.160 I didn't have a choice. I had to sing at 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:20.160 the funerals, the weddings, to you know, anthem, at the 0:07:20.200 --> 0:07:24.120 basketball games, at the whatever. Um My mom used to 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:27.480 always volunteer me. You were being prepared for your moment. 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:32.480 That's a nice wave. That's a very nice way of 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:35.280 looking at it. I used to hate it, Just being honest, 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:38.600 I didn't like it. Um. You know, if you're from 0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:40.480 the South, you know as you come to church on Sunday, 0:07:40.480 --> 0:07:43.320 you're gonna get that look. As you know what I'm saying, 0:07:43.360 --> 0:07:48.600 come on up here. Um. I was very sheltered, so 0:07:48.640 --> 0:07:50.360 I didn't get to do nothing. I couldn't go like 0:07:50.400 --> 0:07:53.840 pass the mailbox. It was like you you have the alarm. 0:07:53.880 --> 0:07:56.160 It's like you do when you open the door. Who 0:07:56.200 --> 0:07:59.920 is that? Yes? I could not go out the yard, 0:08:01.040 --> 0:08:04.080 so I didn't go anywhere. I couldn't do nothing. So 0:08:04.120 --> 0:08:07.000 I was reading. I was in my room with my 0:08:07.000 --> 0:08:14.120 little Cassio. I was composition note book, writing the songs um. 0:08:14.160 --> 0:08:17.360 And that's what I did as a kid. And so 0:08:18.400 --> 0:08:21.920 when I finally did leave or no, what happened was 0:08:21.920 --> 0:08:26.720 the internet. The Internet happened and I started uploading videos 0:08:26.760 --> 0:08:31.320 of myself singing on YouTube. Um, two thou four, what's 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:34.240 the first one? And I developed a following from two 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:39.079 thousand four to two thousand and six and blew up 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:41.720 on the internet before it was a thing. So did 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:45.880 you were you doing it from? Did you understand you 0:08:45.920 --> 0:08:48.040 start to find an algorithm in a sense. Or did 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:51.560 were you just like, uh, I'm just gonna post right now, 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:53.600 or did you start having like this is okay, I'm 0:08:53.600 --> 0:09:02.000 gona post at two o'clock. You know you could, you could, 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:06.040 You could make literally, I like sent an email to 0:09:06.120 --> 0:09:11.080 YouTube and made my video go viral like it didn't exist. 0:09:11.320 --> 0:09:16.160 What are you saying? Yes, I sang the dictionary. I 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:19.600 sang the first five pages like ard Vark, error A 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:24.559 B A b ebba, like literally, and I started getting 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:27.600 some traction, a couple hundred thousand views. So I sent 0:09:27.640 --> 0:09:29.840 an email, went to the bottom where it says like 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:32.880 contact of course that you have to dig to find 0:09:32.920 --> 0:09:37.000 that now today probably doesn't even exist anymore. But I 0:09:37.040 --> 0:09:42.599 went found an email and pretended to be my assistant 0:09:43.480 --> 0:09:47.760 and was like, there's this girl. You know, she's saying 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:49.520 the dictionary. You should put it on the front page. 0:09:50.200 --> 0:09:53.640 And this is back when YouTube used to have ten videos. 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:56.200 That was the front page of you, right, I know 0:09:56.240 --> 0:09:58.320 exactly what you're talking about. And then I woke up 0:09:58.360 --> 0:10:01.240 the next day it was on there, off that email. 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:05.400 It was that easy back then. Oh yeah, so I 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:08.760 didn't you know it wasn't a thing like influencer, viral. 0:10:09.320 --> 0:10:12.400 That was not a thing. It was just you know, 0:10:12.840 --> 0:10:14.920 word of mouth, just like we in this room right now, 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:18.480 Oh have you seen that video? And then the next 0:10:18.559 --> 0:10:20.760 room you go and you show that room. You know, 0:10:20.840 --> 0:10:24.439 That's how things got spread back then. So I started 0:10:24.880 --> 0:10:29.600 uploading videos and me singing, and people started talking to it. 0:10:31.000 --> 0:10:36.680 Was it a thing where that response said to you that, 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:40.280 you know, well I could be a I could be 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:44.680 RB superstar. I mean, remember I couldn't go outside. You 0:10:44.760 --> 0:10:52.040 still could. I moved out my parents house and I 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:56.000 was nineteen. I graduated high school at seventeen, moved out 0:10:56.000 --> 0:10:58.800 when I was nineteen. So for those two years two 0:10:58.880 --> 0:11:01.400 thousand and six, two thousand and four, two thousand and 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:03.040 six to two thousand and eight, when I first came 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:07.080 out here, for four years, um, the Internet was my 0:11:07.160 --> 0:11:10.160 friends like I was. I would upload videos and I 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:12.920 would literally make friends with the people who would leave comments. 0:11:13.320 --> 0:11:16.280 I still talk to some of them today. You really 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:21.640 couldn't go outside. So was there a reason for that church? No? 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:23.439 I think my mama knew what she was doing when 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:25.160 she was younger. I don't know my mom just saying 0:11:25.360 --> 0:11:28.760 what were they having in the church. No, no, my 0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:30.679 mama was just very strict, like she was like, you're 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:33.000 not about to go outside and bring home no babies 0:11:33.160 --> 0:11:35.280 and you have her family trick. I've heard this song. 0:11:35.440 --> 0:11:37.960 I've heard the song. I've heard the song. I heard 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:40.920 I heard it. We gotta get into it, but I 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:43.920 heard it. She just was very prospective. And then also 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:47.160 my stepdad is a police officer, so it's like you 0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:50.559 come from the police too. Oh yeah, you're not on 0:11:50.640 --> 0:11:53.839 that door. You're not knocking on that door. Yeah. I 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:56.160 couldn't do it. I couldn't do nothing. They they literally 0:11:56.600 --> 0:11:59.880 when I went to prom my mom was in the passenger, 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:02.640 my dad was in drivers. They drove me to the door, 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:06.560 opened the door, my dad got out, opened the door 0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:09.280 when they came and picked me up, took me to 0:12:09.360 --> 0:12:13.040 I Hop, came got me from IHOP, took me in 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:15.200 my day home, my day tried to been down to 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:17.720 give me a kids. My dad was like, like it 0:12:17.840 --> 0:12:25.800 was that, I couldn't do nothing, Like I'm with all 0:12:25.840 --> 0:12:33.920 that very sheltered, so no idea, You're you're just looking 0:12:33.920 --> 0:12:38.360 for an outlet and some type of connection to the 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:40.600 outside world. That was exactly what it was. It was 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:44.520 my little secret thing. I mean, my best friend at 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:49.800 the time, he's a he's a twin and so and 0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:53.160 his brother is a pastor. So it's like he used 0:12:53.160 --> 0:12:57.040 to come to me be like Priscilla. It's really embarrassing. 0:12:57.200 --> 0:13:00.480 You know, you're online singing and people would come up 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:03.760 to me and be like your friend post videos, you know. 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:07.439 It was it was a thing like my own little 0:13:07.440 --> 0:13:11.040 secret identity, I guess, and my friends didn't like it. 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:13.440 This is your friends didn't like it because I was 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:22.120 popular on the internet. Were you making money because YouTube wasn't. No, 0:13:22.240 --> 0:13:26.160 I had about fifteen million streams. This is just for 0:13:26.320 --> 0:13:29.479 pure for the love at this point. I mean, nobody 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:34.960 knew in two thousand six that the internet so much, 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:37.880 so I didn't know what was going to happen to 0:13:37.880 --> 0:13:40.600 where when I got a deal. I got signed to 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:43.400 Capitol Records in two thousand and eight, which is what 0:13:43.920 --> 0:13:47.600 the internet here. Off the internet, they used to delete 0:13:47.600 --> 0:13:51.920 my videos. So I would post something and they would 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:55.800 delete it because they couldn't monetize who would deleted YouTube? 0:13:57.200 --> 0:14:00.640 The label would delete it. Yeah, because they didn't understand 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:03.079 it either. Yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:05.240 because at that time, I had done a new deal 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:09.080 right around that same time and the same thing because 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:13.640 I got it started off of a street record, and 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:15.560 they were like, now we gotta pull this because we 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:17.400 can't make money off of you know, they didn't look 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:19.840 at it as a promotional tool. They didn't look at 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:21.720 as a promotional tool. It was a season because everything 0:14:21.880 --> 0:14:25.120 because everything was one on one track minded back then 0:14:25.600 --> 0:14:28.680 in order for it's no well, I mean now it's 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:32.080 like everything contributes to the pop right once they once 0:14:32.120 --> 0:14:34.640 they started, you know, once they got into the three 0:14:34.680 --> 0:14:38.320 sixty space, then it became like, okay, all things can 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:40.680 kind of pour into this. But even like when I 0:14:40.680 --> 0:14:44.120 had the shot to Fire record and we're going into 0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:47.520 T G T, yeah, we gotta shut that down because 0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:50.440 the focus has to be not thinking that all of 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:53.680 that can add to. But yeah, I'm just saying to 0:14:53.840 --> 0:14:57.040 understand the time, he just wanted to turn out. Nigga 0:14:57.080 --> 0:14:58.720 wanted to be in the club. First of all, shout 0:14:58.840 --> 0:15:02.920 out of christ Brown. We were turning up. Okay, Okay, 0:15:02.920 --> 0:15:06.720 I was in the clubs. I was trap, trap trapping, right, 0:15:06.800 --> 0:15:09.680 I was respected in the trap. You didn't stand what 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:14.400 I'm saying I was the older, the older, oldest person 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:19.440 in the trap, but I was having a good time. Yeah. Still, 0:15:19.480 --> 0:15:23.720 I've never had that experience. Still at the club, I 0:15:23.760 --> 0:15:27.040 could go outside. I don't even know what I'm listen. 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:30.520 My friends right now are like, girl, you need to 0:15:30.520 --> 0:15:35.680 go outside. I'm okay with being at home. So I'm listening. 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:38.760 You already know we ship. I went on breakfast club 0:15:38.800 --> 0:15:40.680 talking about how I had never been an even on vacation. 0:15:40.720 --> 0:15:47.200 So I'm all with that. Inside. Just come to my 0:15:47.840 --> 0:15:50.760 turn the house up there and it's like too much 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:52.240 to try to get inside. I was like, it's fine. 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:54.800 I was a kid of that. When I can't get that, 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:59.000 you know what you want? No parking? Where's that? I 0:15:59.120 --> 0:16:04.280 see you all later. I don't get it. I'm chasing cracking. 0:16:04.360 --> 0:16:08.600 If it's a line outside called me, called me, I'm 0:16:08.600 --> 0:16:10.320 gonna being a line. But I can't wait till we 0:16:10.400 --> 0:16:14.720 get in here. Oh yeah, I just the thought of 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:18.560 people and sweat and it just doesn't So when you 0:16:18.640 --> 0:16:21.320 got when you you know what, you have to throw 0:16:21.360 --> 0:16:25.920 sweat in there because it beat you know, it's it's 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:34.760 a liquid excitement. Uh So you so you you kind 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:36.440 of get out of the house. I guess in a sense, 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:39.320 at this point you get signed the capitol and now 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:42.720 you're in l A L A. First two years I 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:45.000 went crazy because you know what happens like you know, 0:16:45.040 --> 0:16:47.680 you don't get nothing, and then now all of a sudden, 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:51.360 it's like, so I had that did you buy Rams? 0:16:51.360 --> 0:16:53.640 Because he bought Rams. I bought a lot of stuff 0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:55.560 in it that I don't have nothing to show for. 0:16:56.960 --> 0:17:00.840 How about rims? And and I tipped well at the 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:04.320 strip club? I did really well. They knew my name. 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:07.480 I would walk into the strip club and Michelle triple 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:11.000 X in the building, Michelle triple X and Trish will 0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:15.399 say that boy is in here, that man is in here, 0:17:16.080 --> 0:17:18.040 and they carve out a space for me at the 0:17:18.080 --> 0:17:22.040 front and we lift this offering he had. He had 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:25.960 no idea he was being scammed. Yeah. I don't know 0:17:25.960 --> 0:17:34.720 about strip club culture. I don't know anything. I could no, no, no, no, 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:42.119 she got enough money. She's a little offering. Dances and 0:17:42.119 --> 0:17:45.200 it's just your times in office. The dances and would 0:17:45.240 --> 0:17:48.800 make this world go around, whether they be professional or 0:17:48.800 --> 0:17:53.080 whether they be underground. This is we talk we're talking about, 0:17:53.760 --> 0:17:59.480 and it is listen. I wrote my first probably honey songs. 0:17:59.520 --> 0:18:03.200 When I came in l A. What's that one strip club? 0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:07.119 It's called food. Okay, Now see this is what I 0:18:07.160 --> 0:18:08.959 do know. L A strip club is not the same 0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:13.680 as they were. They were different. They had a different vibe. 0:18:13.720 --> 0:18:17.640 They had LA had a time when there was peanuts 0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:21.640 and legs there. These are names of These are names 0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:25.280 of strips. Peanuts was the strip club that you couldn't 0:18:25.280 --> 0:18:30.959 get it. You couldn't get into. Men couldn't women. You 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:37.160 had to be literally someone to get into. If you're 0:18:37.160 --> 0:18:40.800 a man, nuts, if you're a man, women, all women. 0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:45.840 It was a blessed It was a blessed thing only 0:18:45.840 --> 0:18:52.119 God himself could have curated. All good and perfect things 0:18:52.160 --> 0:18:57.480 come from the Lord made these women, and he said, 0:18:57.480 --> 0:18:59.479 what do you say on the seventh day? It is good? 0:19:02.480 --> 0:19:09.720 He did, Thank you, Thank you. Somebody to hit it, working, 0:19:09.960 --> 0:19:25.600 somebody get the organ For two years while in UM, 0:19:25.600 --> 0:19:32.920 working though and writing well, because so what happened? Um? 0:19:32.960 --> 0:19:37.679 I got signed to Capitol and I'm just like, you know, 0:19:37.880 --> 0:19:42.480 doing whatever and assigned to this management company. Long story short, 0:19:42.520 --> 0:19:48.480 I end up doing this very very pop Katie Perry 0:19:49.119 --> 0:19:53.639 two point oh song and it went top forty and 0:19:53.640 --> 0:19:57.199 I went on this whole crazy radio tour UM, and 0:19:57.240 --> 0:19:58.840 I'm just happy to be here. Like I had no 0:19:58.920 --> 0:20:01.520 idea that I had a voice as an artist that 0:20:01.560 --> 0:20:03.359 I could say no, I wrote the record, you know, 0:20:03.480 --> 0:20:05.120 so I'm just like, well, of course it's me because 0:20:05.160 --> 0:20:12.320 I wrote it. UM horrible. The backlash was that when 0:20:12.359 --> 0:20:15.359 it didn't do what everybody thought it was gonna do, 0:20:16.200 --> 0:20:19.560 immediately it was like, you know, throw her in the trash, 0:20:20.000 --> 0:20:23.639 she's no good. One song. So I never got a 0:20:23.640 --> 0:20:28.720 second single. UM. The album came out, which please don't 0:20:28.720 --> 0:20:33.159 go look it up. You know they are what it 0:20:33.280 --> 0:20:35.440 was my freaking video all the time. I just tried 0:20:35.480 --> 0:20:37.159 to give him not to the it's just so cringe. 0:20:37.240 --> 0:20:41.919 It's curringe. It's like, UM, but we'll just you know, 0:20:42.000 --> 0:20:46.240 fast forward past this part. And so the record didn't 0:20:46.240 --> 0:20:48.560 do what they thought I was gonna do, and I 0:20:48.600 --> 0:20:53.040 was faced with having to possibly go back to Florida 0:20:53.320 --> 0:20:57.879 and I really didn't want to do that. So UM 0:20:58.119 --> 0:21:01.320 randomly ended up on tour on the MG tour with 0:21:01.400 --> 0:21:05.359 a con and I was supposed to be writing in 0:21:05.480 --> 0:21:10.639 the Akin had like a UM like a attachment to 0:21:10.880 --> 0:21:14.199 his tour bus that was a studio and so I 0:21:14.240 --> 0:21:17.280 was supposed to be in there writing but it only 0:21:17.320 --> 0:21:19.320 worked for like a week and then it was broken. 0:21:19.320 --> 0:21:22.680 It was supposed to be getting fixed and studios don't 0:21:22.760 --> 0:21:25.360 be worked. Yeah, I just ended up being his second assistant. 0:21:25.440 --> 0:21:28.000 So it's like me and his sister Haadi uh and 0:21:28.040 --> 0:21:30.439 we were just on tour all summer, and so that 0:21:30.520 --> 0:21:34.399 summer I decided, yeah, I don't want to go home 0:21:34.760 --> 0:21:39.320 after this. I want to keep doing this. And um, 0:21:39.359 --> 0:21:42.119 this is back when p rros were given out advances. 0:21:42.840 --> 0:21:45.240 So I got an advance from my p r oh, 0:21:45.400 --> 0:21:49.240 which is like as cat being mine, and I started 0:21:49.280 --> 0:21:55.360 writing songs and sorry, sorry, you know they're getting left out. 0:21:55.400 --> 0:21:59.200 They're getting left out to do more of it. People, 0:21:59.280 --> 0:22:02.760 you know, listen to Brian Michael Cox Evince. He stands 0:22:02.760 --> 0:22:11.680 in front of me, shout him up, sitting me personally. Listen. Yeah, 0:22:12.119 --> 0:22:13.800 I'm not gonna say who I am because you know, 0:22:14.119 --> 0:22:20.960 highest bidder, go ahead, go ahead. So I get, I 0:22:21.000 --> 0:22:23.040 get a check, I come out here and I started writing, 0:22:23.119 --> 0:22:27.760 so immediately I get like, who says Selena Gomez? Um 0:22:27.800 --> 0:22:32.280 California King be Rihanna, don't wake me up? Chris Brown 0:22:32.400 --> 0:22:38.080 like my dad yeah, I'm telling the story talk your ship, 0:22:38.560 --> 0:22:44.080 keep going, keep going, so basically as you do or something, 0:22:44.160 --> 0:22:49.680 keep going, come on, keep going. So I wrote more 0:22:49.720 --> 0:22:55.600 than that. I did, Yeah, I have, you know, but 0:22:55.680 --> 0:22:57.919 it's because my ratio was so crazy. I will go 0:22:57.960 --> 0:23:03.439 to the studio. Uh. I was going doing five sessions today, 0:23:04.119 --> 0:23:06.840 writing at least two songs in every session every day. 0:23:07.080 --> 0:23:09.840 I was doing it for how long? For about two 0:23:09.880 --> 0:23:15.240 years straighten every day every single day. From y'all say, 0:23:15.320 --> 0:23:19.920 y'all really want this ship, y'all say you're working home, 0:23:20.640 --> 0:23:25.520 M do the math two souls in five sessions a day, 0:23:26.800 --> 0:23:32.520 every single tree sixty working times too a working every 0:23:32.600 --> 0:23:36.880 day every day not working, and then I wanna come home. 0:23:37.840 --> 0:23:41.600 I was so broke that I would put the tissue 0:23:41.960 --> 0:23:43.679 in like the fruit from the fruit bow in my 0:23:43.720 --> 0:23:48.359 backpack and come home at the studio. Yeah, but I 0:23:49.280 --> 0:23:51.960 know what I'm saying. That's how I was grocery shopping 0:23:52.280 --> 0:23:54.800 at the studio, at the studio, and I did that 0:23:55.240 --> 0:23:58.119 for two years, living at the oak Woods over So 0:23:59.040 --> 0:24:03.720 you hadn't done a publishing deal at all, Yes, I had. 0:24:04.080 --> 0:24:06.000 So you had a publishing deal, and you had done 0:24:06.000 --> 0:24:08.120 a deal with the p r O two. I had 0:24:08.160 --> 0:24:10.760 a publishing deal and a record deal that we're together. 0:24:10.960 --> 0:24:13.879 Never do that. Come on, come on, give me the the information, 0:24:13.960 --> 0:24:17.840 Give the information fast. First of all, I've been doing 0:24:17.840 --> 0:24:19.520 this in two thousand and eight, so that just lets 0:24:19.520 --> 0:24:20.919 you know. I've been doing this for long enough to 0:24:20.960 --> 0:24:25.520 have like renegotiated my deals several times. But my first 0:24:25.560 --> 0:24:28.880 deal was horrible, and I had a production company and 0:24:29.080 --> 0:24:31.879 my my production company's lawyer made more money than me 0:24:31.920 --> 0:24:36.919 on my first deal. Most people do, Yeah, most people do. 0:24:37.200 --> 0:24:40.080 I mean you know, you don't know any better. Um, 0:24:40.119 --> 0:24:42.400 so yeah, that was I have. I've been renting out 0:24:42.400 --> 0:24:44.400 of money, like renting out of money in the first 0:24:44.400 --> 0:24:49.760 six months. So tell me this in all transparency. Did 0:24:49.840 --> 0:24:52.560 you read the contract? Yeah, but I don't know lawyers 0:24:52.600 --> 0:24:58.080 are giving because some people don't. Some people you read 0:24:58.080 --> 0:25:02.359 it to understand it. I read it, yeah, but also 0:25:02.440 --> 0:25:08.920 I read it at two am and the Kinks. You 0:25:09.400 --> 0:25:11.280 show me where the money part? That just just highlight 0:25:11.320 --> 0:25:15.159 the money part. The production company dud sitting there, like, 0:25:15.880 --> 0:25:17.520 let me know. If you want me to explain something, 0:25:17.960 --> 0:25:20.160 you know what I'm saying. It's like, clearly you know 0:25:20.200 --> 0:25:22.760 that I can't understand this and I don't know that 0:25:22.840 --> 0:25:26.080 you know that. I'm just excited. Um, so you know, hey, 0:25:26.119 --> 0:25:28.119 it was nineteen. But we like we like to we 0:25:28.240 --> 0:25:30.639 like to paint that full picture. We like people to 0:25:30.720 --> 0:25:36.240 have an understanding of how these things work. And hopefully 0:25:37.880 --> 0:25:43.080 the Priscilla that's coming, the money that's coming, sees this 0:25:43.119 --> 0:25:45.680 and says, you know what, I'm not gonna sign it 0:25:45.760 --> 0:25:53.920 at two am, wake up tomorrow because in hindsight, right 0:25:54.000 --> 0:25:57.879 to me today now understands that I would not be 0:25:58.080 --> 0:26:02.200 here if it wasn't out those moments. And I think, honestly, 0:26:02.320 --> 0:26:08.199 to be real, there's unknown, unknown things that you have 0:26:08.280 --> 0:26:11.040 no clue that you don't know. There's things that you 0:26:11.040 --> 0:26:13.240 know you don't know, and there's things you know you 0:26:13.240 --> 0:26:17.000 know most times when you're nineteen, like I'm still learning 0:26:17.040 --> 0:26:20.520 every day how the music business works and how and 0:26:20.560 --> 0:26:24.080 the if when you know like which is basically like 0:26:24.880 --> 0:26:27.800 until a situation happens, you don't understand how it can 0:26:27.840 --> 0:26:32.080 apply to you. So there's just certain things that time 0:26:32.080 --> 0:26:36.480