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Speaker 1: First off, Man, it's an honor and a pleasure. Like man,

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Speaker 1: you one the ones that we watched yay high and

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Speaker 1: the reason that my.

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Speaker 2: Voice wasn't it was powerful is yours.

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Speaker 1: But I used to holler after I dunk because because

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Speaker 1: and thank you for you know, coming on here and

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Speaker 2: Man, we definitely appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Doctor. You know I appreciate y'all. Man.

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Speaker 1: First question we want to ask is when you first

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Speaker 1: got to the league, who's the first person to bust yours?

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Speaker 4: That rookie year man I was doing to the frying

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Speaker 4: pop Pat Pod.

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Speaker 3: So I took. I took a beat, I took a being.

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Speaker 4: You know, I was drafted by Charlotte and I'm, you know,

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Speaker 4: number one pick. So it was like, then you go

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Speaker 4: thirty five minutes a game, whether you owner, you off,

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Speaker 4: so Yo. I took some head banging at Detroit. I

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Speaker 4: remember playing Detroit for the first time. Dennis Robin mm hmmm.

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Speaker 4: I left the game fellas bloody lip up. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I needed some mice that game.

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Speaker 5: Yo Yo Yo Live on location. Me and the Blackest

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Speaker 5: One a k A. D. Miles. We are still here

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Speaker 5: in Orlando, keeping it cozy and safe at home. This

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Speaker 5: one is so special, y'all. I know we say that

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Speaker 5: all the time, but y'all don't know. This is my childhood.

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Speaker 5: I used to wear my haircut like this. Man, this

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Speaker 5: is this is the legendary OG fall away from South

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Speaker 5: Dallas to U n l V. To Charlotte to the

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Speaker 5: Dream Team to the New York City Nicks. And it's

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Speaker 5: our og, big brother, Larry, Grandma, mind chance. We appreciate

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Speaker 5: you for joining us OG. This is huge, fellas, come on,

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Speaker 5: let me go.

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Speaker 2: So you came up in South Dallas and how was

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Speaker 4: Same as your hood? You know what I'm saying. Cute

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Speaker 4: hood just just a hood fan. You know how we

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Speaker 4: came up. I was a gym rap, just like the youngster,

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Speaker 3: And you know, people don't think Texas is like that,

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Speaker 3: but it is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, when did you know that basketball was something

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Speaker 4: This?

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Speaker 1: Because I know for me, it was like, man, that

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Speaker 2: I'm going to different states hooping.

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Speaker 1: Like when did it turn around for you?

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Speaker 4: You know what it was like I said, growing up

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Speaker 4: in that type of environment. Don't know my pop never

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Speaker 3: I see y'all got your shirts on. Yeah, been a

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Speaker 4: I was into all sports, and I was when you're

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Speaker 4: from Texas, you know you're I was about to say

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Speaker 3: You built like a lineback of somebody out here. Man,

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Speaker 3: if Texas, you're gonna get it. We're at four years old.

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Speaker 4: You get a whole Dallas cowboy that uniform four years

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Speaker 3: Hell, not another Cowboys fan.

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Speaker 4: Man, I'm not a fan, but you gonna get that.

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Speaker 4: You don't get that at Dollars. So okay, I played

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Speaker 3: Out for me.

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Speaker 5: So at what point did you become with like were

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Speaker 5: you always this man amongst boys?

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Speaker 5: At what point did that? Because like you know, when

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Speaker 5: it was like this big, huge man town. Where when

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Speaker 3: You know what it is? Man?

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Speaker 4: I think it's the football background, because you know, I

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Speaker 4: we produce power for us, right right, Denis Rober myself,

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Speaker 5: Let me let me ask you this, speaking on your

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Speaker 3: You know, I see the comparison.

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Speaker 4: league has changed. Man, even when you guys was in

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Speaker 3: Yeah, over in about a year or two.

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Speaker 4: But you know, right now, if he but if he

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Speaker 4: just knocking down. You guys can't back up because I

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Speaker 5: His field goal percentage is like out of this planet

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Speaker 5: right now, he's he's running around like with shock type

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Speaker 3: The pain he never leave. I wouldn't. You're gonna stop me.

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Speaker 3: I feel it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when you was coming up, who was the player

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Speaker 1: that you were saying early on that you was like, man,

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Speaker 1: I want to be like that, or I'm padding in

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Speaker 2: I'm watching him every time I see him play.

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Speaker 3: It was Doc.

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Speaker 4: It was yeah, you know, I was a doctor again

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Speaker 3: So I hate to admit that, but.

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Speaker 1: But like you went to Juco, role you went from

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Speaker 1: wasn't like you had something to prove. They're like, man,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely, I took the big name coming out of

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Speaker 4: high school. Now, out of high school, I played in

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Speaker 4: both of the McDonald's game. Oh, and I got in

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Speaker 3: So they're like, yeah, bro, you.

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Speaker 4: Gotta go to junior college. Yeah yeah, I know. I

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Speaker 2: Plastic Man.

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Speaker 1: That's one of the really really I ever man in

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Speaker 1: my life.

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Speaker 2: Plastic Man, that's who I watched.

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Speaker 5: Plastic Man.

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Speaker 3: That's my guy. Oh gee, look you I got it

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Speaker 3: if I got it with that one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, that's kind of the hardest now.

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Speaker 2: Bro, Yeah, real man, I love Plastic Man.

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Speaker 3: But we met like on a junior Olympic team, you know,

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I played on a couple of those teams, and that's

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Speaker 4: when I first met Ice. First message, I'm like, man,

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Speaker 4: I'm the junior college.

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Speaker 4: Shoot, that's something I saw them. I think they lost

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Speaker 3: They didn't even really wasn't even recruiting me. Fam.

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Speaker 4: They didn't know if they thought I was staying down,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like a man, what's man coach is taking?

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Speaker 5: How was it for you when you, you know, the

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Speaker 4: Hey, hey man, it was coming from Dallas, coming from Texas,

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Speaker 3: Had to flow down. You know, you get in trouble

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Speaker 4: I made sure to try to just stay after, stay

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Speaker 3: Got to go for that.

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Speaker 5: Let me ask you this, when you play you said

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Speaker 5: you played into McDonald's game.

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Speaker 3: Did you play in it?

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Speaker 5: Did you play in one of the games with with

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Speaker 5: with the legendary Excuse me, I'm just being being being biased.

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Speaker 5: I'm from Chicago with the legendary Marcus Liberty.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, mama's playing that paying that terrible, terrible Q.

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Speaker 3: He's terrible Q. Time out. My whole senior year he

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Speaker 3: was time out, time out.

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Speaker 5: No, no, Marcus Liberty slander will be alive.

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Speaker 3: What's a tall bald like, I gotta tell you the

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Speaker 3: story man.

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Speaker 5: We got NIX tapes of the Liberty figure rolland all

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Speaker 5: that come on the story man.

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Speaker 4: The whole my whole senior year. He was the number

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Speaker 4: one player in the in the nation, right, And I'm like,

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Speaker 4: I can't wait. I see this cat. I can't wait.

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Speaker 4: And they had him at six eight six nine. So

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Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, you're a big dude, right. And I

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Speaker 4: went to the McDonald's game and he was like, you said,

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Speaker 4: Q going between this. I said, what yo, I'm down here, sir.

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Speaker 4: I get rebounds and I bag got It was a

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Speaker 4: totally different games.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the game. But he was skillful. Yes, yes, he.

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Speaker 5: Was like, that's a legend from the from the crib man,

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Speaker 5: shout out Marcus Liberty man.

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Speaker 3: He was a legend of.

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Speaker 1: I'm sitting at the end of the bit. I was

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Speaker 3: Shot time A shot time legend man.

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Speaker 4: Look, he was skillful. C he was skillful, but I

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Speaker 3: He never came.

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Speaker 5: I feel you, I felt he listen. I felt like

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Speaker 5: few events, I was looking like, Wait, he was in

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Speaker 1: But I era we used to head hunt whoever was

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Speaker 2: You're like, man, I can't wait to get him for real.

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Speaker 3: That's what I was like.

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Speaker 4: I said, I've been like you said, I've been seeing

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Speaker 3: I can't wait to see this cat. Right.

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Speaker 1: Wait, see this that first time you got into the tournament,

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Speaker 2: How was that for you?

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Speaker 1: How was that just run that y'all went through and

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Speaker 2: So I was that.

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Speaker 3: You got so much your boys for Look, you ain't

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Speaker 5: He can't have this type of this thing like you

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Speaker 5: my scholars is playing.

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Speaker 3: I ain't playing college.

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Speaker 2: But me and Duke got history.

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Speaker 4: I ain't a young fellow. We got I got history

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Speaker 4: with him. To a man, it was again, man, he

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Speaker 3: Go to again. The grades was killing me.

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Speaker 4: So when I left junior college, I didn't graduate, so

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Speaker 4: So it was good for me that I had no

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Speaker 3: And it was just and next thing I know, I

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Speaker 4: Man, I'm telling you just went so fast, Tim GERGERI.

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Speaker 3: Tell me you're knowing.

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Speaker 4: Coach Gerry pulled me to the side, like, bro, I

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Speaker 4: years you'll be a millionaire.

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Speaker 3: Alright, coach, I'm gonna do it.

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Speaker 4: Like man, you just need to practice this and that

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Speaker 4: and come to practice and stay.

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Speaker 3: Out of the bs, and you'll be a millionaire in

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Speaker 3: two years. You got to coach. So I was. I

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Speaker 4: We played some cats, but I was I was prepared.

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Speaker 4: I tell youngster, I know we do camps. You catch

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Speaker 4: do camps. So I tell youngsters all the time, you

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Speaker 4: want to get rid of those jitterbugs.

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Speaker 3: Just its preparation.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, prepared, and you once you get in that gym,

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Speaker 4: you know you done did it what you had to do.

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Speaker 3: You're just gonna go fall.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna show.

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Speaker 3: I was a lot of pout.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 5: It like when you got through the y'all, you know,

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Speaker 5: at look at what y'all done. Like, yo, we just

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Speaker 5: we just ran through this thing. And then y'all had

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Speaker 2: Had like a crew.

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Speaker 4: You know what, When when I got back to South Dallas,

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Speaker 4: we mentioned South Dollars a lot.

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Speaker 3: When you get back home, it takes you.

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Speaker 4: Basketball, take us, both all three of us man all

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Speaker 4: around the world, but you don't want to go back

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Speaker 4: to the.

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Speaker 3: Crib and school.

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Speaker 4: There's still that passion. So when I got back to

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Speaker 4: the crib, it was over. Yeah, it was over. I

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Speaker 4: knew I had won a championship, swag on the mill

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Speaker 3: It's just South dollars. But yeah, yeah, you know to

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Speaker 1: Different after that much dominance, and you're the best player

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Speaker 1: on the team, why not leave? Why not leave that

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Speaker 4: Man, Vegas was so fun. Bro, you didn't want for anything.

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Speaker 4: I don't want secrets.

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Speaker 5: Hey, look, man.

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Speaker 4: Lost Vegas, Fella. They didn't want for anything, and I

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Speaker 4: just I didn't. I knew, I think I had a shot.

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Speaker 3: I knew I would go play in the league, and

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't. I wasn't trying to rush that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you wanted to fill that championship again.

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Speaker 3: We want to do that again?

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Speaker 4: I want, but I wouldn't want for none of My

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Speaker 4: mom wouldn't want for anything. So I was like, get

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Speaker 4: another year on this scholarship and stay here.

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Speaker 3: Bro, all of us can't come out of high school.

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Speaker 4: Man, I'm saying, let them tell them again why you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we can't just do. You know, all of us

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Speaker 3: ain't like.

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Speaker 1: So the second year, the second year when y'all play

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Speaker 1: dominancy and but nine teams see y'all, y'all, not like

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Speaker 1: kind of catching them really off guard. They really see y'all,

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Speaker 1: and everybody's gonna give y'all, y'all their best shot. Their

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Speaker 1: best game is finna be against y'all. How was that

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Speaker 4: Well, the second year we had to swagger That second year,

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Speaker 4: you know, shirt tail out, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 4: technical after technical, you two know, you know we had

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Speaker 4: to swaggen. The second year, we everywhere we went. We

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Speaker 4: knew that castles. The first year, man, we didn't see

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Speaker 4: that love. You know now, Man, we loved y'all, unf

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Speaker 4: we loved y'all. You and I didn't see the love.

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Speaker 4: The first year we won championship, you didn't see that.

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Speaker 4: That's what I was about to say, Like, then, did

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Speaker 4: y'all did y'all know?

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Speaker 5: Did y'all were becoming in like kind of setting trends

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Speaker 5: the way that y'all were like you know what I'm saying, y'all,

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Speaker 5: y'all kind of proceeded and led into the five five

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Speaker 5: doing what they're doing. Y'all had the baggy shorts and

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Speaker 5: y'all had hot Park was waring New n LB about.

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Speaker 2: That Va.

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Speaker 5: He got the you know, and the Brenda's got the

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Speaker 5: baby at the stully, you know what I'm saying. So,

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Speaker 5: did y'all realize that y'all was impacting the culture the

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Speaker 5: way y'all were like, you know, cause y'all was like

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Speaker 5: y'all were representing the hood.

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Speaker 3: Y'all was like you said, getting tagged.

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Speaker 5: Y'all was banging on people, dunking on them and wasn't

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Speaker 5: afraid to like say something and let them know what

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Speaker 5: that was like something that us we could grab hold

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Speaker 5: to and say that could be us one day. Like

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Speaker 5: we looking at y'all like, man, well I'm about to

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Speaker 5: like you know what I'm saying, Like you see how

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Speaker 5: you got excited, Well you said stay, y'all Like that

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Speaker 5: was how we felt about those teams, y'all the Fave

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Speaker 5: fire like y'all did that for us.

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Speaker 3: Did y'all realize that y'all were doing that as it

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Speaker 4: No crazy, you just focused on doing it and I

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Speaker 4: see it and young fellers believe me. Man, Thank you too,

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Speaker 4: I'm real talk thank you too because it means a

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Speaker 4: lot you.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know how to express it. But

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Speaker 3: and then you when the youngsters do y'all like that,

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Speaker 3: you'll know what I'm saying. I was watching y'all. Damn.

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Speaker 3: Thanks bro, Thanks man. But you didn't realize that.

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Speaker 4: You didn't realize that you were just like if you

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Speaker 4: look at that UNLV team both years, everybody is from

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Speaker 3: Man, DC, you know, Brooklyn, New York. Everybody come around

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Speaker 4: And then once we got on the court, talking like no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 4: no no.

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Speaker 3: Do you do whatever the you was doing? Do that?

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Speaker 3: Do that?

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Speaker 4: So yeah, look, I tell people all the time, I

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Speaker 4: couldn't have played the dude. I couldn't have went to

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Speaker 4: Duke and play ball, you know what I mean. I

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Speaker 4: couldn't have been in that structure. I mean I ain't

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Speaker 4: I mean, I ain't down in the structure. But I

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Speaker 4: strived in something that was more you know, more to

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Speaker 4: my to my element, more lout tarbor co tarban like

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Speaker 4: we man, y'all to love co coach Tark cuts you out.

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Speaker 3: You cut up. Now, you go out there and do

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Speaker 3: your job. We're good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But U n LV. I got a U n

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Speaker 2: LV hat right now because UNLV.

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Speaker 1: You gotta have a sweatshirt or a hat like you

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Speaker 3: It was a symbol.

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Speaker 5: It was like sign of the time, like I worked

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Speaker 5: with g A on NBA TV and everything, and I

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Speaker 5: be I'll be messing with him all the time, like yo, man,

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Speaker 5: like y'all was some bad boys back there, like y'all

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Speaker 5: had the hood going crazy.

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Speaker 4: Like you said, you mentioned Pop and Snoop. They was

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Speaker 4: Beach and Long Beach or scron Beach for this, whichever

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Speaker 4: one y'all want to call it. Okay, you're playing Scrone

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Speaker 4: Beach and I'm and they like that so and so

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Speaker 4: that song. So now should was with them and should

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Speaker 4: play football at un l V. I don't know if

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Speaker 4: you catch that. Yeah, yeah I did.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: He was about two years ahead of me, but he

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Speaker 4: was playing football at un LV. So he got him

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Speaker 4: at the game. They sitting on the front road, but

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Speaker 4: they wasn't snooping pocket at the time, so all the

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Speaker 4: way yeah, yeah, yeah, come out with their mama and

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Speaker 4: snoop cops out like yo, I catch on trun.

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Speaker 3: Game, right, that's that's that's crazy.

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Speaker 2: That's a crazy story.

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Speaker 1: The go t like you reminded me of somebody from

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Speaker 2: You had to go tea.

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Speaker 1: I ain't never seen nobody else in the league or

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Speaker 1: nobody ever be out there with no goal too, like

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Speaker 1: anybody ever mentioned that try to get you to take

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Speaker 1: your goal tooth out and and all that. It just

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Speaker 1: seems so authentic and real. I'm so happy that you

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Speaker 3: Like when I.

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Speaker 4: Said that came from South took it out here. You

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Speaker 4: know it was a cap so body.

444
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Speaker 3: Pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop Yeah, anytime.

445
00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:39,720
Speaker 3: So that's what happened.

446
00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,520
Speaker 2: Just that was one of the realest things ever.

447
00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,639
Speaker 1: And your boy, you know, your boy, when he was

448
00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:47,520
Speaker 1: in high school, he used to have that part up

449
00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:47,960
Speaker 1: the middle.

450
00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:48,399
Speaker 3: You know what.

451
00:19:49,920 --> 00:20:00,719
Speaker 6: We got, you know, right the middle, you know googleable

452
00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:02,000
Speaker 6: you can check it right now.

453
00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,280
Speaker 5: I was in the league, right, I'm talking about many

454
00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:09,239
Speaker 5: years in the NBA. Yeah, he had to part up

455
00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:13,840
Speaker 5: the middle. Oh, we've been doing this in high school.

456
00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:19,280
Speaker 5: We've been doing it whole life. Rocket and I'm talking

457
00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,440
Speaker 5: about real talk. You can check it out. You can

458
00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,000
Speaker 5: check it out to this day. I had that demo

459
00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:28,640
Speaker 5: the LJ grandmother J brought up the middle man everything.

460
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Speaker 1: That's crazy to get drafted number one, Like you'd accomplished

461
00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:34,920
Speaker 1: all this in college and now it's time to go

462
00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,320
Speaker 1: and you know, now you're finna really play with the men,

463
00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,320
Speaker 1: like to get drafted number one?

464
00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:41,439
Speaker 3: Like, how was that? Like?

465
00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,960
Speaker 2: The draft and dream come true? From South Dallas?

466
00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,040
Speaker 1: You know when we ain't have a chance to do

467
00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,359
Speaker 1: nothing and you the number one pick in the world.

468
00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,800
Speaker 1: You're for your family to see how proud your family

469
00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:53,760
Speaker 1: is for you and all that.

470
00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:55,760
Speaker 2: Just that experience. I know how it was for me,

471
00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:56,679
Speaker 2: But how was it for you?

472
00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:59,440
Speaker 3: It was again, it was a blur.

473
00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,560
Speaker 4: It was was you got with both your draft in

474
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:03,480
Speaker 4: New York.

475
00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,520
Speaker 3: I got drafted from Minnesota. Oh okay, no, we was

476
00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:08,080
Speaker 3: in New York.

477
00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,720
Speaker 4: Man, We was in New York and you were just gambler, yeah, man,

478
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,120
Speaker 4: and I was shipping. And then once you drafted. Once,

479
00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,280
Speaker 4: once I got drafted, I had it was it was

480
00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,359
Speaker 4: like interview after interview, So I was just running around,

481
00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:21,320
Speaker 4: but I couldn't wait.

482
00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:22,960
Speaker 3: We went out that night. We did what we needed

483
00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:29,720
Speaker 3: to do. We did, we did. We get that's that night. Man,

484
00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:31,520
Speaker 3: we got together, and I was a square.

485
00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,159
Speaker 4: People don't know this now, people don't know this young fellows,

486
00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,600
Speaker 4: But I was a square all through college because of coach.

487
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,639
Speaker 3: Gerd and taught. I was just a square, know this

488
00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:40,000
Speaker 3: and that.

489
00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 4: Other than women, other than chasing females, female, everything else,

490
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,920
Speaker 4: it was just basketball. So once we got drafted, man

491
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 4: me Stacey, Billy always, I think it was Kenny Anderson

492
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 4: did Ken Bay. It was like eight nine of us

493
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,199
Speaker 4: went to a little spot and jay z all them

494
00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,600
Speaker 4: castles in the spots. But of course we just got drafted,

495
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:04,120
Speaker 4: so we were big ship, the big ship.

496
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,920
Speaker 3: You know. It was a blurt. It was just a blurt.

497
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,200
Speaker 2: They said when you came out, you wanted to side

498
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:10,720
Speaker 2: with Nike.

499
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 1: Like you say, like you was a Nike player, And

500
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,680
Speaker 1: I don't understand why you went with Nike, but I'm

501
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,920
Speaker 1: so glad that you was with Converse because y'all made

502
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:21,920
Speaker 1: history with everything that you did.

503
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,200
Speaker 2: So how was it not going with Nike? Probably? How

504
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,200
Speaker 2: you wanted to but create history with converse.

505
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 4: You Hey, hey, I think he retired you guys. Ever

506
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:32,919
Speaker 4: heard of Sonny Bank.

507
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 1: Carl Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was in the era of us.

508
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,880
Speaker 1: He was trying to indeed, as a Nike war.

509
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 4: I didn't know that. I didn't know that you and

510
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 4: l V was a Nike team. Yeah, and money was

511
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 4: I rep and Sonny called me. I was drafting number one,

512
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 4: and Sonny called me like a month later because I'm studying,

513
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 4: calling like, yo, what's up on the contract? I'm talking

514
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,199
Speaker 4: to Nike. I'm talking to Sonny and I'm letting him

515
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 4: know I want to come to Nike. But honey, was

516
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 4: just he started not taking my calls then, and you know,

517
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 4: not calling me back, and I'm I picked and he

518
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 4: not calling me back.

519
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:09,359
Speaker 3: All of a sudden.

520
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 4: After month, he called me and he was like, so

521
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:17,120
Speaker 4: like Meek on the final he was back number one pick.

522
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 3: What's going on?

523
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:19,880
Speaker 4: He said, Man, Nike don't think you'll be a good pro.

524
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,680
Speaker 4: I said what he said, Man, Nike don't want to

525
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 4: sign you. They don't think you'll be a good pro.

526
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker 4: I wasn't mad at that. I was just number one pick.

527
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 3: I wasn't mad. I was like, you know where about

528
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,360
Speaker 3: that Sunday don only time. I got a little upset.

529
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:35,920
Speaker 4: They signed two through fifteen, so they didn't signed one,

530
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,160
Speaker 4: but they signed like it was either two through fifteen

531
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Speaker 4: or two three eleven.

532
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,360
Speaker 3: Wow, everybody under me.

533
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 4: They signed you know okay, oh wow, okay, okay, okay,

534
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 4: no big deal. But Converse I thought they was in

535
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,199
Speaker 4: cohoots with each other because Converse like, come comer, we

536
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 4: want you to do this, do that? Well, uh, commercial

537
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,439
Speaker 4: this and that. And it was about the money with

538
00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 4: me at that time. I mean, you know how it

539
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 4: is they make you shoe. So I was a Nike guy.

540
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 4: But as long as you make me a good shoe,

541
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,120
Speaker 4: oh cool, you know, so a bit I loved it.

542
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 4: I was a little hurt that Nike said I wouldn't

543
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 4: be a good bro. Yeah, I wouldn't liked that.

544
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 5: Like how did the whole grandma my persona and everything?

545
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 5: Like how did that did you come up with that?

546
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 5: Did they come to you? Like who, how did all

547
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 5: of that come about? And how did they just just develop?

548
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 3: You know, how didn't come up with that? Come on?

549
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 4: Now?

550
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 2: So they had to convince you of that?

551
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 5: So so right, so when they came into you was like,

552
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:34,919
Speaker 5: hold on, hold on, you.

553
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 3: Want me to do? What what're you talking about?

554
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 4: Like they actually they hooked with me. They then boozed

555
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,479
Speaker 4: me to do it. Yes they did, Yes they did.

556
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 4: They had some yoga. It came about because their PR

557
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 4: guys was like twenty five. So when I signed with them,

558
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 4: I was with twenty one twenty two and they PR

559
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:54,959
Speaker 4: they was doing the whole make up.

560
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 3: So they guys were like twenty four to twenty five,

561
00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 3: and they didn't want.

562
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 4: To do like a basketball merch, which I wanted to do,

563
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 4: you know, like yo, get me bro, but they wanted,

564
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 4: Oh we got all these ideas, and that's what I

565
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 4: came about.

566
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 3: But they hooked with me.

567
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 4: When they signed me, they told me about a whole

568
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,160
Speaker 4: other commercial about me.

569
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 3: Bought me Larry Bird and Magic. You remember Larry Bird

570
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 3: and Magic Converse.

571
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, So when they signed it, they gave me a

572
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,719
Speaker 4: million dollars and they was like, we want to put

573
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 4: you in a commercial with Magic and Larry Bird. And

574
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, come on, and I signed and like

575
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 4: six months later, I was like, yo, y'all ready to

576
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 4: do that commercial. They're like, but not that, not that

577
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 4: we want to put you in the dress. We're gonna

578
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,159
Speaker 4: do this, We're gonna do that. I'm like wow, And

579
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 4: they said this. I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell

580
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 4: the young fellas. I don't say this a live but

581
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell a young fella. I said, what happened

582
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 4: to that commercial with me, Magic and Larry? They said

583
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 4: one of them guys did want to do.

584
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 5: Ah, Man, they ain't gonna get in the commercial with

585
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 5: the young girl.

586
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they want to be in the commercial with

587
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 3: the young fellow.

588
00:25:58,600 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 2: To get that.

589
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 1: I know you you was kind of shaky on the

590
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 1: idea and so far from but I know the reception

591
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 1: you got from because I know everybody loved Grandmama. Like

592
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 1: everybody loved Grandmama. It wasn't no disrespected and it didn't

593
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,879
Speaker 1: seem like funny because you like everybody loved Grandmama.

594
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 2: Like the reception you got from the people, how was

595
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 2: that for you?

596
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 3: They loved it?

597
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 4: Like you said, again, I want to be l j

598
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 4: to do something. You know, Mike was doing the Jordan's

599
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 4: right and I was killing my rookie. I got Rookie

600
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 4: of the Year second year.

601
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, like, yo, what's up gonna lie, but.

602
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 4: It has been so much good feedback from the grandma

603
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,120
Speaker 4: mom that and I, you know, I fought it.

604
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:40,959
Speaker 3: I fought it, like the first one or two we did.

605
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,160
Speaker 5: That's what I was gonna ask, like we did Liken,

606
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,400
Speaker 5: like was you was you like hesitanting that like after

607
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 5: you said the first one that you leave the shoot like, man,

608
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 5: I don't know that I taught it.

609
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 4: But they kept they kept seeing that long hand like oh,

610
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,199
Speaker 4: we got this one with you. We got one with

611
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:57,160
Speaker 4: you with your shirt off.

612
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 3: We got one with you. I'm like, what are we

613
00:26:58,320 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 3: doing that one in a minute? In a minute.

614
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 4: That's but the feedback was so and then it kept

615
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 4: pumping into money.

616
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 3: They kept pumping in the money.

617
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 4: So you know, always you want to be an address

618
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 4: and promote that that's not what you want. But it was.

619
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,479
Speaker 4: It was it fun, you know. I was like, man, whatever,

620
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 4: and I even I think it was the fourth year.

621
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 4: I was like, man, I'm not doing commercial three years.

622
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,360
Speaker 4: And I told him after the third year, they want

623
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 4: to resign, I said, we signed, but I'm not doing

624
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 4: it any more, Grandmama commercial And I read it a

625
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 4: little bit because I didn't.

626
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 3: Get another contract with Converse. Yeah, I read it a

627
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 3: little bit. But you know, we lived, we learned, we

628
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 3: Live and Learne. Yeah, living line.

629
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 1: But the Grandmama Fa Silid started making you do movies,

630
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 1: TV shows and all sorts of stuff. You did Steve Rkele,

631
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 1: You did Space Jam which were about to get another

632
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 1: one with Lebron and you did Eddie, which is one

633
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 1: of my favorite basketball movies. You know, ever with w

634
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 1: WE gold Berg. How was them experiences for you?

635
00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:58,120
Speaker 3: Yeah?

636
00:27:58,119 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 5: Because I mean, you know, we did a couple of

637
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 5: movies and everything to y'ain't was we got. We got

638
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,360
Speaker 5: little credits though, we got our sad you know, were

639
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 5: the Union.

640
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 3: We in the un Union. You know, we get like

641
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 3: a little fourteen dollars a couple of months or something.

642
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 3: From what.

643
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 1: You're doing that, Well, how was that for I was

644
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 1: the movies for you? Just to do it with them

645
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: type of people and them type of actors.

646
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 3: Space Jime was cool. In the game. You wouldn't believe

647
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 3: what Warner Brothers did. Mike.

648
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 4: Mike had to be in l A. He had to

649
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 4: be in Hollywood for like the whole summer.

650
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 3: So they got this dude, like I think, like a

651
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 3: ten million dollar gym man. It was like called a

652
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 3: Jordan Dome or something.

653
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 4: Right, Yes, and boy, the basketball games, y'all have loved

654
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 4: y'all fellas, y'all have loved it. The basketball games in

655
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 4: the evening was crazy. You know, it's La so all

656
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 4: the casts hang out in l A. You know, every day.

657
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 3: It was a different cat in town.

658
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. In the cast up, it

659
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 4: was like thirty thirty pros on the court, pros on

660
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 4: the court, trying to play, trying to do this cash.

661
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 4: Look we got so we got so pissed that they

662
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 4: be playing five oh five, but we get.

663
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 3: A three on three on man. Let's play three on

664
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 3: three over the it's all pro.

665
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, sound like it's crazy hoop right, that's crazy.

666
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 4: So it was Mike at the top of this game.

667
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 4: So whoever he called to come through, he was coming through,

668
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 4: you know. But what they built him, it was unbelievable.

669
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 4: They had like everybody had their own trailer. So you

670
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 4: got your all said, with like twenty trailers, it looks

671
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 4: like your crib. I ain't that The Space Jam? As

672
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 4: far as movies, the Space Jam was like the biggest

673
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 4: ultimate like move with him, should not I've seen? The

674
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 4: Earth was cool too, but it was on set, it was.

675
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 4: It was cool that month I spent on Space jammer crazy.

676
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 1: How was it for your kids to watch Space jam

677
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: and see you on Space Jam because like kids to

678
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: this day is watching Space Jam like you kids. I

679
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: just went over the other day and Q kids were

680
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: watching Space Jam.

681
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 5: It came out in the ninety radio.

682
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 3: Getting ready. They loved it. They loved it.

683
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 4: Had their family over, I mean had they look young

684
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 4: boys over the poppers, over the h and all my sons,

685
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 4: my three sons, just for they was gonna go to

686
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 4: the NBA. So that's a let down where your son

687
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 4: don't make yeah, space down.

688
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 3: They loved Eddie Moore.

689
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 2: Ah, Eddie was Eddie was the movie?

690
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 4: Now you know they shot Eddie That was a New

691
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 4: York Knixt movie. They shot that in Charlotte.

692
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 2: M M.

693
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 3: I ain't know.

694
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, the whole that was. It looked like New York,

695
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 2: the whole movie.

696
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 3: You know, the Madison Square Guard. They're like, no, you

697
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 3: can't get Mason Square Guards.

698
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 4: So they couldn't. So they took to Charlotte, Lorena and

699
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 4: chot to make it look.

700
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 1: Like Square Garden. I know you said, you come up

701
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: and m J. Was one of them guys. So that

702
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 1: was the first time you met m J.

703
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 2: How was it?

704
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 4: He gets some bullshit he did the first time I met.

705
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 4: We walked out over the court and he walked straight

706
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 4: up to me and go, how is Darthy?

707
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 3: Hear me? You any Kansas?

708
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 4: No more?

709
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 3: No, he said, how is Dorothy? That's my mom? Wow.

710
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 3: I couldn't play the whole game because my mom like that. Well,

711
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 3: I know your mama.

712
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 5: Boy, that's like when I say that's when I say

713
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 5: with a smile, you got.

714
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 3: You got, you got.

715
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 4: You walked up to me and asked me how my mom?

716
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 4: How my mom that you know, you know went in

717
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 4: the program? Saw my mom name was Darth you know

718
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 4: win the program? You's my mom name? I think I

719
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 4: scored eight points. That's great, Mike asked my mom, asked

720
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 4: by my mom. Got so.

721
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 2: So, y'all have a young squad.

722
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 1: You got mugs, you got Lonzo, you Dale Curry, you

723
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And y'all trying to make noise

724
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: in this league full of the bulls, the Pacers, the Knicks,

725
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, The West Coast team and

726
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: the Rockets, Lakers, all this stuff se y'all trying to

727
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: get this success. I remember when y'all first made the playoffs.

728
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: I won that first series. I think Lonzo the hit

729
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: the shot like to to create that duo with you

730
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: and Lonzo, like a power forward center duo. You really

731
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: don't see too many power forward center duos. You always

732
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: see a guard and a big man. Like, how was

733
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: that for y'all?

734
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 3: You know?

735
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 4: Ever since that little spat happened when I'm in New

736
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 4: York and Miami with like man, y'all had beach Man.

737
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 3: We never had beaf just Searlotte. It was never no beef.

738
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 4: I was my second year, his first year, it was

739
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 4: never and but we only played two years together, but

740
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 4: it was never no beef with each other. We we

741
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 4: got along. Now, we didn't go after eat, after after practice,

742
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 4: after the.

743
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 2: Game like many players.

744
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 3: Don't you know what I'm saying, One like y'all, number

745
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 3: one got along. We was cool and want no locker

746
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 3: room or tching number movies a shark.

747
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 4: It's just I'm during the time when I was in

748
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 4: New York and Miami hated each other, and that was

749
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 4: that pat Riley effect. Pat I don't want to back down,

750
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 4: he don't want to back.

751
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 2: Down, and we tried to win.

752
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: So if I got a boat, we friendh But if

753
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: I got a boat, you in your face for us

754
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: to go and move to the next round. Q.

755
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 5: People don't understand. Oh like me and him literally would

756
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 5: have fought on the court and been cool and.

757
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 3: Been cooled off.

758
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: When people you see us play against each other, they.

759
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 3: Just be like, boy, don't like me. Know yeah, it

760
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 3: ain't like we know.

761
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 5: Just no, I got to be able to talk my

762
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 5: talk when I see him this something, I gotta let

763
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 5: him know.

764
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

765
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 2: How fucking him up?

766
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 3: Jim fu him up? So we understand it?

767
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 4: Wait, same, what the ain't never when we played together

768
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 4: with Never no beef.

769
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 3: It's just that in New York Miami. Let me just sidebar.

770
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 3: That was y'all.

771
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 5: Was one of my favorite little squads on NBA jam retro.

772
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,879
Speaker 5: You know, classically trained. You know what I'm saying.

773
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 3: I was.

774
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,280
Speaker 5: I hit the arcades before I was at the crib.

775
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

776
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 5: I was classically trained in this in this water, could

777
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 5: war combat with this game stuff.

778
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: And that Larry that Larry Johnson pinstrike Charlotte Jersey.

779
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 3: Is Oh my god.

780
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 2: One of the best jersey in the history of the game.

781
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 3: Still one of the one of the most worn throwbacks.

782
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 4: Straight up, Look, my first three years in the league,

783
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 4: it was the number one jersey selling jersey in the

784
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 4: league my first three years. Straight up, that was about

785
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 4: I was the league signed the player too, Like the

786
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 4: league signed a player to represent the league.

787
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 3: And that's what that was about. That I was the

788
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 3: league player of my first three years.

789
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 5: You got the blessing, yeah upon you like, yeah, the

790
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,280
Speaker 5: golden child he chosen one.

791
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 3: No, I don't know about that. I have a new

792
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:02,439
Speaker 3: next year.

793
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 5: You know, Like, how was it when you first ever

794
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,959
Speaker 5: met Muggsy And how was it like meeting him and saying,

795
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 5: I'm about to play with Muggsy Buzzs, you.

796
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:12,919
Speaker 3: Know we call him. He ain't gonna like it now,

797
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 3: but that was Baltimore pill. I ain't never heard that.

798
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 3: You remember what you just call you.

799
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 4: Be more pip. You don't like that, but I love it.

800
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 4: Come on, man, they don't get no smooth. They don't

801
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 4: get no smoother to this day. Uh, we spoke to

802
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 4: we we had it to the Bahamas play golf, you know,

803
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,919
Speaker 4: we golfers. So we had it to the Bahamas play

804
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 4: golf next month. Me mugged and by three more of

805
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:41,760
Speaker 4: the gods.

806
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 2: But that's what's up he gonna.

807
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 4: Cause look, look, he gonna look at me. It was

808
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 4: like the middle of the season of my rookie year

809
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 4: and I'm in the running. Me the Ken Bay or Billy.

810
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 4: They don't know who's gonna be rookie of the year.

811
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 4: He gonna come to my room in the middle of sea.

812
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 4: Ya you wanna be rook Yeah, yeah, I want to

813
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 4: be rook out of year. I want to Yeah, I

814
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 4: want to be rook caet of here.

815
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 3: I don't know.

816
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 4: But I got about eight more passes from then on,

817
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 4: No what I got about eight more looks he took

818
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 4: care of you. That and your cup Bucks made so

819
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 4: that happened for it's.

820
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,720
Speaker 3: Gonna come out.

821
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't want to be rook heel, yeah, I

822
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 4: got about eight more dimes.

823
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 5: How was it for you to sign a twelve year,

824
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 5: eighty four million dollar bag coming from like you said,

825
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 5: South Dallas with the gold too, How was that? Did

826
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 5: you ever could you ever have even imagined, like you said,

827
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,720
Speaker 5: this little orange basketball take us all around the world.

828
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 5: Could you have ever thought that you would have seen

829
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 5: the type of money you've seen just from Hoopy may history.

830
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 2: When you got that too, nobody got know what bigger

831
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 2: than that.

832
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 3: One I walked around. I was hanging.

833
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 4: You when I walked right after that thing. It was

834
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 4: all it was all but you know better, but yeah,

835
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 4: I was hanging, man, it was it was hanging.

836
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 5: I feel that a necessity to follow that up with

837
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 5: my question, like when you got the bang, I ain't

838
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 5: talking about taking care of mom or none of that.

839
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 5: You know, we all take care. I'm talking about what

840
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 5: I want to hear. Something fantastic that you did, like

841
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 5: a big ball of purchase.

842
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 3: You were walking around like you know what I didn't.

843
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 3: I didn't man, I'm from South Dallas. I didn't work

844
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 3: this hard. I deserve mysel one time.

845
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 5: Let me let the third person deserve spoking the third

846
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 5: person making this.

847
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 3: Part the third person type person right here.

848
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 4: What you did, the third person lived with the third

849
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 4: person after it was a big deal. After Michael Jordan

850
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 4: and the catch like this, it was all every time.

851
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 3: Thank you.

852
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 4: They came back with their bag like all right, I

853
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 4: did it all you. I bought everything. Man.

854
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. It's my heart. Bless my heart,

855
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 3: bless it. I got grandparents. It's like from sound dollar fellas,

856
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 3: I did it. I did that, so you bought it all.

857
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 5: They tell me this, like in hindsight and now seeing

858
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 5: the success of this brand and everything that it is

859
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 5: done and it's accomplished and it's still here today, how

860
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 5: does it feel they have been the first ever cover

861
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 5: athlete for Slam magazine.

862
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 3: I didn't even realize that.

863
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 5: That's like crazy because like you know, Slam is like

864
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 5: that's like one of the hood, Like.

865
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 2: That's part up right now, you got.

866
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 3: I heard the Slam magazine cover all the time. Man.

867
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 3: But again, like you said, it was the first one,

868
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 3: so they wasn't as large, but.

869
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 5: Right, that's what I'm saying that retro like and looking

870
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 5: at it like that, we thought like that, she that's

871
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 5: a lifetime achievement for a lot of us, Like, no,

872
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 5: you gotta get to you on Slam like like you

873
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 5: was the you kicked it off. It's crazy, your fellaws

874
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 5: is crazy because I've done so much.

875
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 3: Afterwards they're like, yo, Slam, I'm like, yeah, yeah, just

876
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 3: do it right.

877
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:20,919
Speaker 4: Every time they every time they have to do something,

878
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm with it because I see but again,

879
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 4: it was the first one, so you like again, I'm

880
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 4: walking around like I'm ojay, what what do you want

881
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 4: to do?

882
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 5: I feel like they, oh, you like an issue right now?

883
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 5: Like put some stamp, like like slam. If y'all listening,

884
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 5: you know, I feel like something needs to happen. This

885
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 5: man is the man in the first first issue, y'all.

886
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 3: Man, that's why I love it straight up.

887
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: The New York Knicks. I know when I got to

888
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 1: the league and this was you've been with the Knicks

889
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 1: for a minute.

890
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 5: Now wa wait wait wait, wait, wait wait wait before

891
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 5: you go to New York, before you go to New York.

892
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 5: I got I gotta go here now because you know,

893
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 5: we had a couple of his old g teammates. I

894
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 5: got to go to Dream Team too. Oh yeah, I

895
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 5: got to go to Dream Team too. We can't go

896
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 5: here without going there. Yeah, d C, we didn't have

897
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 5: some We had some of the guys on here. And

898
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 5: my favorite question is, could y'all have be Dream Team one?

899
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 3: Yeah?

900
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 5: He said, they said. I can't even fully get the

901
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 5: question out for y'all. This is not y'all feel.

902
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 3: Who said we would d C. The first one.

903
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 5: He said, right, not only not only would he said,

904
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 5: well please, he said, we had the eighth one to

905
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 5: trying about big fellow shack, he said, listen, we weren't

906
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 5: about to be played with.

907
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 3: He talked, he talked bad about it. He should he should.

908
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 3: That's Detroit.

909
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 4: That no, like, you know, we get that quick, like

910
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 4: we're gonna say, want no, mother, play the game, beat

911
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 4: us play the game.

912
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 3: Let's play the game. Yeah, who not play that game?

913
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 1: Yeah?

914
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 4: Beautiful game too. You wouldn't believe it, bro, You wouldn't

915
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 4: believe it was a Look, I stayed drunk. Don't tell nobody.

916
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 4: I stayed listen.

917
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 3: You know it's a celebration. You know what it was.

918
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 3: It did have y'all. Y'all played one of them Olympics games.

919
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 3: Y'all played.

920
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 4: You know, afterwards, they picked random guys to do the

921
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 4: drug test, like they were picking. What they did to

922
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 4: us was they were like, man, we're gonna do the

923
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 4: drug test. But after every game, they got to pick

924
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 4: a random three guys to do the drug test.

925
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 3: Every y every game, after every game, I'm picked, I'm like, yo,

926
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 3: why you.

927
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 4: Know what?

928
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 3: You know what they knew?

929
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: R On Summer Time five that's why they This is.

930
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 4: Black bees, this is country rice. No steroids here.

931
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 3: I don't even know what that's about. I'm just eating.

932
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 4: I'm just eating. Thank you, like they're gonna profind some

933
00:41:58,160 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 4: steroids in my sister.

934
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 1: Come on to win that gold medal, stand on that podium,

935
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: that had that national How was that for you?

936
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 4: I loved it. It was you know what I wish

937
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 4: only only regret I had, and I hope we don't

938
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 4: get in trouble. I wish I went. Come on now

939
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 4: I'm in New York. We go to Canada. I want

940
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:15,800
Speaker 4: to go to Japan.

941
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 2: I want yeah, right, one of the other countries, one

942
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 2: of the big.

943
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 3: Canada.

944
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, in Canada, million time, No disrespeci But you wish

945
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 5: like Beijing or something like that, Brazil, you know.

946
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 4: Russia, Canada. That's what I wanted. Man, all good, I

947
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 4: just so. But it was good stepping on that state,

948
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 4: especially with them.

949
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I was about saying, how was that like?

950
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 5: Because I know that you know y'all the success was

951
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 5: it was kind of aforegoing conclusion. But how was it

952
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 5: just to be with that group of you know, special individuals,

953
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 5: the best in the game, and to spend that time

954
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 5: with them. How was that camaraderie? Like the practices, the hotels,

955
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 5: the bus rides, you know, if it was gambling and

956
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 5: games and I know it was.

957
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 4: Crap talking, kidding me. Got to be a whole bunch

958
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 4: of other stuff too. We don't get into it, but.

959
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 5: We know and we know that's what makes we know

960
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 5: being part of teams and being those memories, Like how.

961
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 3: Was that for you?

962
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 5: Like, you know, feeling like you know you wanted the

963
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 5: best in the world and y'all here doing this.

964
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 3: You know what, like you cast like you know this?

965
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 4: You know when you're on a team like this, you

966
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 4: go on the road, you might have two cash hang out,

967
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 4: three cash hang out. What I loved about that that

968
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 4: Dream Team too.

969
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 3: We went on the road, all.

970
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:39,359
Speaker 4: Level, all left, look mark Price, Price, Mark Price, thunder Dad,

971
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 4: what we're going everybody where we go?

972
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 3: We would be a crew. We've been, I said, if

973
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 3: we go when we.

974
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 4: Went, it was all eleven of us, man, it was

975
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 4: all that was one of the best time playing the

976
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 4: Dream Team.

977
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 1: To tell me about the initial call, like did you

978
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: know you for to be on Dream Team or you

979
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 1: didn't know, but just being announced that you're Finla be

980
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 1: these top eleven guys that the world didn't grab to

981
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 1: represent us. Like the initial call that you got, especially

982
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 1: after seeing the Impacted because.

983
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 2: You've been in the league for a minute. You know

984
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 2: the league, and you know they can pick a lot of.

985
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 3: Players, you know, I know. And then I got the

986
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 3: call doing the seasons so we were still falling. They

987
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:26,879
Speaker 3: want you to play. I'm like, what who that day? Yeah?

988
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:28,919
Speaker 4: And I think I was like the fourth call because

989
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 4: you get to pick out the jersey, and I think

990
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 4: the first two jersey like shock got there, Like okay,

991
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 4: y'all call shock for me.

992
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 3: I understand a wonder So that's okay, I understand.

993
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 4: And then I'm like, will give me fifteen? I want

994
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,399
Speaker 4: to be the because Magic at fifteen. I just wanted

995
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:53,800
Speaker 4: to Johnson to be fifteen. That Dom fifteen and I

996
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 4: was Johnson. But this you call because you know, we

997
00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 4: love our something. Don't nobody want to you know how

998
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 4: we Yeah, well that's for us, but to give it

999
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 4: up for that to play with them? And DC was

1000
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 4: my nimbus DC win number one the year before me,

1001
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 4: So every time DC and I played.

1002
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,399
Speaker 3: It was what y'all talk about? Yeah whatever? For whatever

1003
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 3: the man, and that's why I like man for real,

1004
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 3: like people like DC.

1005
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 5: I loved that we was able to have him on,

1006
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 5: even like you, because neither one of y'all don't do

1007
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 5: this a lot.

1008
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 3: Y'all don't pop out and be just talking or whatever.

1009
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 5: And then but at the same time, we really know

1010
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 5: that when you talk about this game and talk about

1011
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 5: real ones and hoopers, you can't talk about it without

1012
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 5: talking about you, d C and people like y'all.

1013
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 3: And I'm talking about through where we come from.

1014
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 5: The respect is crazy, like this is legit, like when

1015
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 5: we coming where we come from in the hood, DC, Grandmama,

1016
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,720
Speaker 5: like ring bells, like similar to some of the goats

1017
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 5: of the game, like an MJ, like y'all, y'all gone

1018
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 5: to some of the same type of respect like dead serious.

1019
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 3: Yeah check that, young fella, Thank y'all.

1020
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 7: That's how you do it, so bro, yeah real, that's

1021
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 7: definitely what you're doing for young fellas behind you, to

1022
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 7: show their respect, the ones that like you two that

1023
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 7: did the same thing I did.

1024
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 3: You sitting there asking me question you did the same

1025
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 3: thing I did, Bro.

1026
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 5: I mean, I just feel it necessary for us to

1027
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 5: make sure these young fellas know man when I was

1028
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 5: I worked in Detroit four years ago, man, and I

1029
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 5: love them to death, Stanley Johnson and some other young boys.

1030
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 3: But these people didn't know who Eddie Jones was.

1031
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 5: Bro. Like we having a conversation on like in the

1032
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 5: in the locker room and stuff, and I'm seeing something.

1033
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 2: Like I'm like like what, like how you doing?

1034
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 5: Like come on, man, like I feel it necessary for

1035
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 5: like you know, we got this platform, were about to

1036
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 5: we about to try and get every single one of

1037
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 5: y'all we can up being like, look.

1038
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 3: Learn something.

1039
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 5: This was the man like you going and getting that

1040
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,800
Speaker 5: twelve year eighty four allows these boys get two fifty

1041
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 5: now to get three hundred nine, Like they couldn't have

1042
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 5: did that if you know everybody before them, you and us,

1043
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 5: They can't. They can't get that money without you doing that,

1044
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 5: without you know, Juwan signing the first hundred you know

1045
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,320
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, and all of that stuff that happened

1046
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 5: when Magic signed the first million. We can't get none

1047
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 5: of this without all of that. And they need the

1048
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 5: damn so Noah, because a lot.

1049
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:25,720
Speaker 3: Of them don't appreciate you, bro. Thank you, yo, fellows.

1050
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 3: Keep doing what you're doing.

1051
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 1: Man, We got to the league, like it was a

1052
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,839
Speaker 1: couple of years. You was with the Knicks by then,

1053
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 1: so I remember you with the nigga it.

1054
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 2: Was juice free Well Allen Houston with the h u

1055
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:37,879
Speaker 2: O on the shoe.

1056
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 1: I'm like, man them, Lord, this is the next like

1057
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: we've been to play the Knicks like that was one

1058
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 1: of them moments them league moment was like, Man, I'm heard, Man,

1059
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 1: it's got LJ down eerse free Well ewing. But like

1060
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:55,439
Speaker 1: your Nick years though, like the shot, I remember the shot.

1061
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 1: You hit the shot and one to three and Chris

1062
00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 1: Child's grab.

1063
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 2: You gotta hit the free though. You got to hit

1064
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 2: the free throw.

1065
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: Like the buckets you used to get what you meant

1066
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 1: to them next teams and like all that stuff.

1067
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:11,240
Speaker 2: Just explain that your Nick time, like it was different.

1068
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 2: It was a different LJ. It wasn't the LJ we were.

1069
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 1: Seeing in Charlotte, but it was a more mature experience

1070
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 1: and knew what to do like a big shot taker,

1071
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,399
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like I look for them,

1072
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 1: like they got you the ball at the end of

1073
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 1: the games.

1074
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 2: And a lot of people don't realize that.

1075
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 3: Fell about it.

1076
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 4: Talk about it, man, We all want to be on

1077
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 4: a team just like y'all took this team. You want

1078
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 4: to be a team where you put five out there

1079
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 4: and everybody can get their own. Everybody and no, no

1080
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,280
Speaker 4: had to bosity know this. He gets forty, you get fifteen.

1081
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's quiet bro.

1082
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 4: Gold spree and it's the hood thing, man, y'all you

1083
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 4: right on it with your podcast. Y'all keep doing this, man,

1084
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 4: you keep doing this because you bringing back memories.

1085
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 3: With me when you talk about the spread and the

1086
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 3: Allen and you take it. Actually, mc Marcus.

1087
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 4: Camby, we all g yo can be you guess would

1088
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 4: have loved out we had in the mission we all

1089
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 4: got in the room on the road.

1090
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 3: We all got in the room on the road. Y'all

1091
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 3: know what that is. Yeah, little pow wow of the body.

1092
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 3: Now y'all have loved him missions we had.

1093
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 2: We have deep talks man that they don't even know about.

1094
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 3: Yo. I can remember.

1095
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 5: I can't for real life true story, d mails you

1096
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 5: dona remember exactly what I'm saying the first time when

1097
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 5: we came and played, y'all, when we got when we

1098
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 5: got busy in the guarden, listen the night before God

1099
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 5: bless it dead.

1100
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 2: Our O G.

1101
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 3: Sean Rooks.

1102
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 5: Right, it's our first time really really going out in

1103
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 5: New York on some on some big boy grown.

1104
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 3: Stuff like Lee stuff. He took us out, big boy

1105
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 3: steakhouse restaurant.

1106
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. He got some nice ladies

1107
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 5: to accompany us and all of that. We go out

1108
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 5: after this big boy club like we really did New York.

1109
00:49:58,600 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 3: We did it.

1110
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 5: Next this morning, we get to the guard you know

1111
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 5: how they doing the guard sometimes we get there to

1112
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 5: shooting around. They ain't even got the lights on yet.

1113
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 5: They try they do us dirty. We the clippers. You know,

1114
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 5: they don't care we trying to get the lights turned on.

1115
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 5: So me and me and d Mile, we the young fellas, right,

1116
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 5: We the party too hard. We sitting there waiting for

1117
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 5: them to turn on lights. We just fell asleep up

1118
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 5: against each other with our hoodies and stuff on. So

1119
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 5: then soon as we get up, Gentry giving us the speech.

1120
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 5: He ain't really saying nothing straight to us, but he talked.

1121
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 5: He like, if y'all can't handle y'all self, y'all don't

1122
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 5: need to do certain stuff. And now y'all gotta be you.

1123
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,839
Speaker 3: Know what I'm saying. But the game time. Come look.

1124
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 5: Oh gee, I'll never forget it. I kept being being

1125
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 5: d Mail. All we talked about is MJ say, you

1126
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 5: gotta go kill when you in the garden. Man, we

1127
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 5: got up in that thing and got this god is

1128
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 5: and I remember you, remember D Mail. I'm going all crazy,

1129
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 5: so much of it. I'm yelling and screaming. Ever told

1130
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 5: me to calm down.

1131
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 3: You don't want to get a man. When I said,

1132
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 3: I said, fuck that. I said, they got me like.

1133
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 2: No, yeah, no, they gotta get this work. Now, this

1134
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 2: is my moment.

1135
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 3: Boy, I come here, Jay, say you got to killing

1136
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:12,760
Speaker 3: the guy killing.

1137
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 5: I got twenty eight on the free well in Houston,

1138
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:17,800
Speaker 5: but I can't tell me a damn thing.

1139
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 3: That we're standing over. Calm down. I'll never forget that

1140
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:26,959
Speaker 3: game and the Guard.

1141
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember that game. I got to think I

1142
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 2: got that on tape.

1143
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 4: The Garden like that for me as Charlotte too. I

1144
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:36,439
Speaker 4: couldn't wait for the Guard. It's still the Garden. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1145
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 4: I couldn't wait to play the Garden.

1146
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 5: You are a prime example of like your superstar years

1147
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 5: were in Charlotte, but like you are just as endeared

1148
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 5: in New York, if not more than you know, are

1149
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:53,280
Speaker 5: were in Charlotte because of they love the blue collar.

1150
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 5: They love the dude gonna bring his lunch pale and

1151
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 5: they know who's you know, they know the heart and

1152
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 5: soul type of guys and they respect that guy.

1153
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 2: You know.

1154
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 5: They say that once a Nick always Nick be like

1155
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 5: they really jabbed with you. I didn't been there, you know, gee,

1156
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:08,879
Speaker 5: I didnet came and showed up to the couple little

1157
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 5: different events and appearances, and I'm looking like you saying

1158
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 5: every time I come around, I'm just like, yo, I'm

1159
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 5: up in here, Earl mount Row Pearl over there, like

1160
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 5: I'm like Clyde, I'm like ljog.

1161
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 3: I just free was there. I'm just like, yo, this

1162
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 3: is crazy.

1163
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 5: Like Bernard King, I'm the youngest in the room, you know,

1164
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 5: John Wallace d I'll just be like all right, like yo,

1165
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 5: this is crazy. Like but it's like, how do you

1166
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 5: feel when they talk about how players scared to come there?

1167
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 5: Can you just tell them how good it can be

1168
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 5: if you come to New York and like, just do

1169
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,359
Speaker 5: your thing and show like my thing. When I say

1170
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 5: do your thing, just leave it all out there. I

1171
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 5: ain't saying how much you gonna average what you're gonna produce.

1172
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 5: I'm just saying, if you just leave it all out

1173
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 5: there and they can see that, they will love you

1174
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:55,720
Speaker 5: right or wrong.

1175
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 4: Right like you said that, Ben and Charlotte. Then the

1176
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 4: five years when I came, I went straight home. We

1177
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 4: lived in White Plans.

1178
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:09,360
Speaker 3: When I'm you yongsters always living in the city, you

1179
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 3: know I was in White Plains too.

1180
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 5: Oh gee, I lived in I lived in Purchase, and

1181
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:15,800
Speaker 5: then I lived in downtown White Plains.

1182
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 3: Smart. Smart.

1183
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 4: I lived in White Place. I played in this garden,

1184
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 4: I went home. I went out in the garden out

1185
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 4: and my man, Chris Child's I came the same time.

1186
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 3: Chris Child.

1187
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,359
Speaker 4: He started going out in the city. He went out

1188
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 4: one time, went out the wrong door. Man right there

1189
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 4: telling me, you know what it is, give it all,

1190
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:36,720
Speaker 4: give it all. He drink, he by himself.

1191
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 3: He go out that way.

1192
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:39,880
Speaker 4: Soon if you go out give it up. Man, You

1193
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,800
Speaker 4: know what I like, don't be going out find yourself

1194
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 4: in New York. You gonna go out in Purchase.

1195
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 5: I ain't going out nowhere by myself. Like like, I

1196
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 5: see that's one thing, like you said, you played you home. Now,

1197
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:57,320
Speaker 5: I ain't gonna tell that lie, hey boy, I was

1198
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 5: all in the city. I'm gonna tell you the truth. Okay,

1199
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 5: I'm gonna tell you the absolute truth. Like got my

1200
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 5: butt like when I first got there, right, my my

1201
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 5: brother got killed maybe like two months into the season,

1202
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 5: So that had me in the world with and like

1203
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 5: when I say I was in the world where that

1204
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 5: means I was out, that mean I was out.

1205
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 2: I was.

1206
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,839
Speaker 5: I was coping like that I was. I would look well,

1207
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 5: I was out out, like really out. And I ain't

1208
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 5: never getting no I ain't never getting no ship because

1209
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 5: I was with the right people and stayed away from

1210
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 5: the wrong situation. But I enjoyed New York the first

1211
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 5: couple of years.

1212
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 3: Boy, I'm real talk boy man, I was scared of it.

1213
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 3: I was shared it. I stayed, I wasn't doing it.

1214
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,439
Speaker 3: I wasn't doing it. But when I'm now that I'm

1215
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:41,959
Speaker 3: back in this role, I'm in. Man.

1216
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 4: The love is crazy. Yeah, yeah, like you said, the

1217
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 4: love is they do real basketball fans. It's just to

1218
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 4: let you know, you know how crazy they can get.

1219
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 4: But the basketball fans mans fans.

1220
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:58,280
Speaker 1: First Knuckleheads is based off our celebration. When the celebration

1221
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: we had something Cooper. She used to he's the roof

1222
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:11,360
Speaker 1: one of my favorite celebrations. Oh my god man, because

1223
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,959
Speaker 1: like a lot of people didn't celebrate or they didn't

1224
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 1: celebrate because that was a former show boating. You know,

1225
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 1: a lot of people on other teams take that as

1226
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 1: offensive sometimes, you know, that's my groove to get me hyped.

1227
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:24,919
Speaker 1: But the LJ celebration, that's one of the old celebrations

1228
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 1: that I remember that people used to always do it,

1229
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: and I used to do myself when they used to hoop.

1230
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 2: And I come down and get it in my swag.

1231
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 1: Like to see the generation do that, and see other

1232
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 1: people do that, and see generations now you see these

1233
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 1: kids now they shit have three they throwing.

1234
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 2: Up everything in the neighborhood.

1235
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 1: To see the kids now doing just doing stuff and

1236
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 1: celebrating because you're one of the few guys that was

1237
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 1: doing it and it wasn't a lot of people doing it.

1238
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 3: How is that you?

1239
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:54,839
Speaker 4: I know you cast no Rick Rick Bronson, Yeah, yeah,

1240
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 4: Rick Brunt with a Rick young, Rick younger than Rick

1241
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 4: right round, Maybe you can't right y'all. Was on our bench,

1242
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 4: was on the next bench, and I would hear the

1243
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 4: three and Rick would throw the Rick would do that

1244
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 4: to me, do that to me, And then we was

1245
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 4: in the locker room, like, Rick, what is it?

1246
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,839
Speaker 3: He said, that's the big he that's so everything. Yeah,

1247
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 3: back at you, back at you, Yeah, Rick, Rick Rick

1248
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:19,320
Speaker 3: Ricky credit for that. Okay, So Rick, there is that.

1249
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:22,800
Speaker 2: Okay, that's what that's the original right there, throwing it

1250
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:24,839
Speaker 2: up in here. That's what's up.

1251
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 5: So so tell me you're speaking about that, like the

1252
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 5: legendary play. Tell me about that four point play. That's

1253
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,240
Speaker 5: one of the biggest plays in the legendary play.

1254
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 3: In Knick's history.

1255
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 5: And you know, it's a loved play by all the fans, Like,

1256
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 5: take me through that in your man and my main

1257
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 5: man shut out the shout out to Ben Lyons.

1258
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 3: He wants to know what did Chris Child say to

1259
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 3: you when he grabs you after you? Well, first thing, Chris,

1260
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 3: calm the fuck down. You got a sweet throw calm.

1261
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:58,399
Speaker 4: That's where you have it, being live exclusive, straight point,

1262
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 4: straight pun What you doing? What the fuck are you doing?

1263
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,360
Speaker 4: And you know the play was for I was like

1264
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 4: the third option. The first option was Allen, the second

1265
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 4: option was Spree. Well, and I was sending them two picks.

1266
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 4: Now I was the center at the time. We went

1267
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 4: small ball. We went small ball because we needed you know,

1268
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 4: Jeff wanted to put somebody, all three point shooters on

1269
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 4: the court. You're a small ball. And I set them

1270
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 4: two picks and they were bullshit picks. Fellas, I burned

1271
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 4: it because I wanted to rock.

1272
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 3: So he ain't no ball.

1273
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 4: If you watch it, you go bad. That's a bullshit pick.

1274
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 4: It popped straight to the rock ball. Uh, But I

1275
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 4: really wanted that. My confidence was up. Tibodeau's assistant coach

1276
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 4: that year, and Timbodau was my shooting coach. Tom Thimodau

1277
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 4: tell everybody he got this start in the NBA with

1278
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 4: coach Tarkani, coach Tarkani and co san Antonio for like

1279
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 4: three months and Timbodeau was his assistant, so Tiberda was

1280
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 4: talking real close. So yeah, when Timberdeau came to the

1281
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 4: next he just I'm your shooting, come on, come on,

1282
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 4: come on, Tim. And I had a great, great week,

1283
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 4: great two weeks. I know I won't hit that shot man.

1284
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 4: You know, when you rolling and you know you let

1285
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 4: it go, you want it. Yeah, I felt that's how

1286
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 4: I know I was gonna hit it.

1287
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 5: I can never say I've been in there when it's

1288
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 5: been a feel good moment like that. I've been for

1289
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 5: some cool ones, but not something like that. I know

1290
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 5: that place had to be straight electric.

1291
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 3: I'm still living on right, you know. They found I'm

1292
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 3: still you know.

1293
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 4: That's why I like I said, I love New York

1294
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 4: because there's a sports town, sports city, and they let

1295
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 4: you live when it's like that, man that she'll still

1296
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 4: show you that respect.

1297
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 3: But it was crazy.

1298
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 4: I had my three sons there at the time, so

1299
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 4: my three yet experience the whole experience with me.

1300
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 3: Man, they was there. We kicked, you know how it is.

1301
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 3: We went out. I went out that night. I went

1302
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 3: out Jimmy's in the Bronx. Y'a don't know he's about

1303
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 3: Jimmy Is in the bron I was the Jimmy's in

1304
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 3: the brocks That. You know what I'm saying. I love.

1305
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 4: It was crazy and to this day when I see it,

1306
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 4: you know, it brings back, it brings it back. That's

1307
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 4: that's crazy.

1308
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 5: That's a message all these young boys in these free

1309
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 5: agents out there like this man.

1310
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 3: He wasn't even the main man.

1311
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 5: He was a staple, a hard worker, and he say,

1312
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 5: he's still living off and literal eating off that one shot.

1313
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 3: Man.

1314
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 1: Listen, the makes look good this year, Julie thinking about

1315
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 1: y'all city, New York City this year. Man, the boys

1316
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 1: looking like they read it them young boys playing hard,

1317
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 1: old up for tales.

1318
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 2: Man shout up to till.

1319
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 5: You got that thing going in the right direction, show him,

1320
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 5: Leo Leon shout out worldwide up.

1321
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, they bring it back. They do a good job.

1322
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 4: I'm I'm ater your fan, So I ain't got no

1323
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 4: I ain't got nothing nothing bad to say about right now.

1324
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 4: Like you said, long, they're playing hard, They're gonna be loved.

1325
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, tell me this. When you made your first All

1326
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 5: Star game, what was that feeling like? Like when you

1327
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 5: cause I never made an All Star game, but I

1328
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 5: could just remember we made the Rookie game two years bro,

1329
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 5: Like when I came back, you know, like you go

1330
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 5: the All Star weekend, you like, all right, y'all, I

1331
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 5: got about to head down here about you know what

1332
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 5: I'm saying, come back feeling yourself? Like how was you

1333
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 5: feeling like years old? You know what I'm saying? You

1334
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 5: Dine made the All Star team and now you like

1335
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 5: you that's kind of like you know, your stabb of approval,

1336
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 5: like I'm one of them guys in the league. Like,

1337
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 5: how did that feel for you making your first All

1338
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 5: Star game?

1339
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 4: I was the youngest on that team, and everybody was y'all, fellow, y'all,

1340
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 4: seller Rubbi, y'all, fellow, y'all, get your head off my head.

1341
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 3: I was good. I was. I loved it.

1342
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 4: I loved it they treated they treated I don't know

1343
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 4: if it's the same back then. Man, I just I

1344
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 4: love you catching you gotta you gotta continue that coach.

1345
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 4: When I made the All Star team, the y'all, I mean,

1346
01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 4: the old t was all about me. They were just

1347
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 4: worried about me, making.

1348
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 3: Sure I was good.

1349
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 2: Mike, all you enjoyed it.

1350
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 3: Damn. This is what it's about. Yeah, man, this it

1351
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 3: was love. It was just dead love.

1352
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 4: They treated me like a rookie though, but it was love.

1353
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 4: You know when they dug, you know, come over, come

1354
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 4: over young, but they Mike had me come everywhere. Yeah

1355
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 4: that's love, that's dumb.

1356
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 3: It was dead love. Let me ask you this about

1357
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 3: the legendary dunk contest that I felt like you absolutely

1358
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 3: damn one. Yeah, how did you feel?

1359
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 2: Like?

1360
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 5: First, I know, that was like, that was dope. That

1361
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 5: was a huge deal to being like, how was that

1362
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 5: whole experience for you? The dunk contest?

1363
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 3: I choke. I should have won that thing. I should

1364
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:40,880
Speaker 3: have won that, But I choke.

1365
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 5: Man.

1366
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:45,919
Speaker 3: I you know what they did? Me and Stacey, y'all,

1367
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 3: I we did not. They wanted us to get on

1368
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 3: the bus, and we didn't get on the bus. We

1369
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 3: drove over. So when we drove over.

1370
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 4: We got to the locker room, they said you first.

1371
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 4: You said, you know, y'all been a dunk contest, you

1372
01:01:58,200 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 4: get to pull out the hat or something.

1373
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:00,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I was.

1374
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 3: Going first.

1375
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 4: But but once I got to the finals, man, I

1376
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 4: just choked. Such you symbolics, that's my guy. But we

1377
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:09,680
Speaker 4: know he could see through that match.

1378
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 3: Thank you all.

1379
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 5: What happened when when Baron tried to really blindfold himself,

1380
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 5: he almost hurt Baron Davis tried that stuff and he missed.

1381
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 3: The whole rim Like, ain't no way you're gonna time

1382
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 3: in and make that.

1383
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 4: Man, man, where you really try that, you can hurt yourself. Hell,

1384
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:30,200
Speaker 4: I missed the dunk, so he wanted. I just choked

1385
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 4: man as an old fashioned choke, just like a U

1386
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 4: n l V. I thought you I was gonna ask that.

1387
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 4: Remember the second year we played Duke and I didn't

1388
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 4: shoot that shot right, Remember the second game if I

1389
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 4: shot the shot, l J, why you I choke? Yeahs

1390
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 4: ain't making no excuses, no excuse.

1391
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, start bench cut. You gotta

1392
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 1: start one. You gotta cut one. You gotta bench one.

1393
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 2: Okay, Charles Board, please call him alone. Jerry Covin, JOHNS.

1394
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 2: Barkley called alone, and who Jerry Covin.

1395
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm gonna start Derrick Colan. I'm on bench b Walkley,

1396
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 4: and I'm gonna cut Carl Along and came along. Carl

1397
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 4: Malone is like the number one power forward, Right, I'm

1398
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:27,480
Speaker 4: gonna start Derrick Covin.

1399
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 3: I'm gout bitch botheron. I'm gonna cut car Along. That's

1400
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:31,240
Speaker 3: my heart.

1401
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 2: Oh okay, that's my heart.

1402
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 3: I used to kill I used to kill Carl. I'm

1403
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 3: talking like this.

1404
01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 4: I like, mother fucker, you're the biggest dude on the court,

1405
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:41,439
Speaker 4: and you got to get five five pictures in the court.

1406
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 3: Every time.

1407
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 4: John Stockton sixty one, he pick it for you. And

1408
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:48,760
Speaker 4: I used to get it and just be outside patting

1409
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 4: it like this like, I don't need no pick. I

1410
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 4: don't need no pickure then should jump on him something

1411
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 4: like that.

1412
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 3: I'm guarding him and I got honey sack hitting me

1413
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:57,520
Speaker 3: a little stocks and hit me.

1414
01:03:57,600 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 4: I'm like, man, they six one and you getting all

1415
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 4: the pick, you big old w But you know you can't.

1416
01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 3: You can't argue with his numbers. You can't argue with

1417
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 3: his number.

1418
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 1: You was a power forward that was quick. You can

1419
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:11,120
Speaker 1: face up and you can bag down. And like you say,

1420
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 1: most of the power forwards of that era was like

1421
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 1: real big. They was more close to centers than they was,

1422
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 1: you know, than they was. Small forwards like you was

1423
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 1: like a small forward slash power for with the strip.

1424
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 1: Every matchup you had, you feel like you can score.

1425
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 3: My problem was gardening sixteen sixty eleven cats who would.

1426
01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 2: Just jump hook the motherfucker. I hate them.

1427
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 3: That was the problem. But on the other end, they

1428
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 3: couldn't guard me.

1429
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 2: Can't guard it all. You used to shake up.

1430
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 5: Listen like DS. You know, he was a huge part

1431
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 5: of inspiringing my game. You made me feel like okay,

1432
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:50,520
Speaker 5: you Barkley was like all right, like even if because

1433
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 5: like you know, when I was younger in high school,

1434
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 5: and I was.

1435
01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 3: A power forward, nice long as hever.

1436
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 5: So that's what I'm i'm saying, Like you definitely, y'all

1437
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 5: definitely made me feel like, all right, it's cool, Like

1438
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 5: I ain't like, I ain't gotta be six safe to

1439
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 5: be able to you know what I'm saying, play in

1440
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 5: the league.

1441
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 3: I'm cool.

1442
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 5: And it gave me a belief that I could go

1443
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 5: in and still rebound like I have to throw figures

1444
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 5: are rebound in college.

1445
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 3: Like I was cool.

1446
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 5: So I'm like, all right when I'm watching y'all, I'm like,

1447
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 5: all right, cool like that you offensively right. For me,

1448
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 5: it was a struggle sometimes against the wiry sixteen type

1449
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:27,680
Speaker 5: guys like for me, my worst matchup I always say

1450
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 5: it was it was Tayshawn Prince and Andre Carolinko. If

1451
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:32,120
Speaker 5: I had a good game against one of them motherfuckers,

1452
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:34,480
Speaker 5: I was. I felt good, you know what I'm saying.

1453
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:37,480
Speaker 5: Like they was for real, It wasn't. They weren't talking

1454
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 5: to me. I could he was easy, well, but you know,

1455
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:44,560
Speaker 5: like but you know, like they weren't like physically, they

1456
01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:47,000
Speaker 5: couldn't do nothing with me. I could bomb, bomb bomb,

1457
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:48,919
Speaker 5: but they had that length where they could just wait,

1458
01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 5: they could just wait.

1459
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 3: When you get through, I'm gonna beat this list up.

1460
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 3: Was that the same?

1461
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:56,680
Speaker 5: Did you run into those problems like like anybody your

1462
01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 5: side or around your side, it's a mismatch. I already

1463
01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:00,920
Speaker 5: know that, but like when you get against that sixteen

1464
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 5: wire we dude, was that a problem?

1465
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:03,480
Speaker 3: Same thing?

1466
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 4: Bro to this day, I had scored two points on

1467
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 4: Ben Wallace and I'm hitting him and hitting him with

1468
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:13,439
Speaker 4: the shoulders, hitting him and hit he just going back,

1469
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 4: going with it. But when he got here, here you go,

1470
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 4: here you go. Yeah, Marcus Camby. I was so happy

1471
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 4: when Marcus Cammy came to the nick. You know how

1472
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:26,920
Speaker 4: skinny Marcus was. I'm knocking it back two feet three

1473
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 4: feet and then you go like this, give me that,

1474
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 4: give me that? Yup, waity do the same way out.

1475
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 1: Of all the years you played, all teammates you done had,

1476
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:40,400
Speaker 1: if you had to pick four getting into the FI

1477
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:43,080
Speaker 1: told with and it don't matter. They don't got to

1478
01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:44,720
Speaker 1: be on the same team, they don't got to be

1479
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:46,840
Speaker 1: the same year. Just all the years un to play,

1480
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:48,360
Speaker 1: if you had to pick four of them teammates to

1481
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:51,320
Speaker 1: getting the fox old with who was beating four other teammates.

1482
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:59,480
Speaker 4: Crazy Stay Ice of course, Ice Oakley. Oh geh, check

1483
01:06:59,520 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 4: this out.

1484
01:06:59,880 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 3: I'm gonna mess your head over this Ice Oakley.

1485
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:10,080
Speaker 4: Chris Childs. Yeah, Chris Childs was no pump. Would come

1486
01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:13,920
Speaker 4: down with the best of them, man, the best of them.

1487
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:15,840
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1488
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:19,920
Speaker 4: And the cat was hard, no man, Charlie Wo Have

1489
01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 4: y'all met Charlie Ward? Yeah, many being in the locker

1490
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 4: room with that guy. Man, you just want to go

1491
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 4: all out.

1492
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 3: So you guards. You guards are some of the hardest

1493
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 3: cats of player in the league. You always got to

1494
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 3: be hard. Yeah.

1495
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 2: Always.

1496
01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 3: Charlie Wood Chris Shaw was two of the hardest cats.

1497
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 2: I knew because they hanging out with this with us

1498
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:38,920
Speaker 2: big fellas.

1499
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, because Charlie Wood christ didn't take.

1500
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:44,760
Speaker 2: Nothing outside of Zaion.

1501
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:47,120
Speaker 1: Who are some of the players that you see today,

1502
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:49,680
Speaker 1: They remind you of some of the players of the

1503
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:50,480
Speaker 1: older days.

1504
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 4: Well, we got to get physical, y'all. I'm looking we

1505
01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:56,960
Speaker 4: look at these youngsters and I go, okay, well, who

1506
01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:57,800
Speaker 4: could have played with us?

1507
01:07:58,240 --> 01:07:58,880
Speaker 3: You know? Leonard?

1508
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:03,960
Speaker 4: Of course, I think I think because he played defense first, Yeah, yeah,

1509
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 4: so I think why I definitely would have fit in.

1510
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 4: Of course, Lebron got the big body he can play.

1511
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 4: I don't think he'd be as dombinant as with us

1512
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 4: as he is with these Johnsons.

1513
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 3: You know.

1514
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:16,080
Speaker 2: I mean he hit a lot of flow, they got it.

1515
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:18,559
Speaker 3: He got into a lot of country, got into some fights.

1516
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:21,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, you have to fight then challenge, you know what

1517
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:24,439
Speaker 4: I mean. Yeah, you don't see a lot of physical

1518
01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:27,080
Speaker 4: play down low. I think even the center player is

1519
01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 4: not there anymore. You got Joe be just dumbinanting everybody

1520
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:31,800
Speaker 4: because he's wanting to go and do it.

1521
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:32,639
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1522
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:35,680
Speaker 1: I'm liking how I'm be playing right now. One of

1523
01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 1: my favorite guys, I hate his injuries is kind of

1524
01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 1: getting on him as Boogie Cousins. I just liked his

1525
01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:44,760
Speaker 1: mean attitude and just how he was just playing. He

1526
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Speaker 1: was real aggressive. I used to love boogieycuse I still

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01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 1: love him to this day. Injuries is on him, but

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01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:52,160
Speaker 1: he reminds me of one of them old schools.

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01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:55,559
Speaker 3: Bring the center game back. I love Boogie. Like you said,

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01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:56,719
Speaker 3: we just gotta stay healthy.

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Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, all right, man, that's the rap man. This

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Speaker 5: ain't been legendary.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 5: We appreciate you, O G man, this you don't even

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01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 5: know how much you mean to us.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:08,360
Speaker 3: We appreciate you for pulling up and letting us.

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Speaker 4: Do this young fellas, mad respect man and continued success.

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Speaker 3: Man, y'all keep doing what you're doing. Man, I'm watching, yes,

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Speaker 3: Sir d Nice thanking him. Damn, we might have a

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01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:21,880
Speaker 3: new nickname for D. D. Nice.

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Speaker 5: I heard him saying at the time. D Nice, I

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Speaker 5: don't won't give no love on that, even though you

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01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 5: know that's kind of hug.

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Speaker 3: I don't. Hey, look, I don't want give it was nice, man,

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01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 3: I don't started something that I'd have heard it too.

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Speaker 2: Many dans man, I'm nice man. Nobody ever called me

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01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:43,320
Speaker 2: that I liked it too.

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Speaker 3: Hey, I like it too. I can't even I heard

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Speaker 2: The players tribute dot com