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Speaker 1: The Volume.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Jenkison Jones on The Volume Podcast network. It

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Speaker 2: it's Thursday, January twenty third, and we are not live

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Speaker 2: because is it? YouTube's broken? Jackson was broken.

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Speaker 3: It's all broken, bro, Okay.

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Speaker 2: Okay, everything's broken, but we're joined. We're very excited to

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Speaker 2: be joined by special guests in front of the show.

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Speaker 2: Chris Long of green Light. Chris, thanks for hopping on, bro.

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Speaker 3: Thank you' all. It's good to see y'all. Yes, sorry,

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Speaker 3: good to have you all. My boy.

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Speaker 1: Man, it's been a minute since we chopped it up.

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Speaker 1: You know, you know, we homies be texting all that shit.

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Speaker 1: But it's good to see you.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: How was everything? It's good to see you too. Man.

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Speaker 4: I was telling y'all offline, you know, just the season

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Speaker 4: super long. You know, only two games to break down

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Speaker 4: this week. It's a thing of beauty and then we

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Speaker 4: got one more and the off season time.

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Speaker 3: So I can't wait. Man, are you fully like.

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Speaker 2: On the media side now to where it's just like

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Speaker 2: it's a it's a it's a grind that's always like

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Speaker 2: the sports shutter thing is like all I'm rooting for

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Speaker 2: is it doesn't go to overtime.

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Speaker 4: You know, yeah, No, I'm not like that. I mean

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Speaker 4: I love what I do, Like I love watching football.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of how I justified doing the job, right,

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Speaker 4: Like it allows me to be like, hey, babe, I'm

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Speaker 4: going to work, you know, like on a Thursday night,

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Speaker 4: Like I'm gonna go up to the man cave and

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Speaker 4: watch the game, throw a couple bucks on the game.

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Speaker 4: That that sort of thing. Like a lot of times

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Speaker 4: it doesn't feel like work. But I will tell you

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Speaker 4: just you know, the inside the NFL thing this year,

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Speaker 4: which has been awesome, working with Ocho and Ryan and Bill,

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Speaker 4: you know, it is great. But the travel can be ye.

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Speaker 4: I just don't like traveling. I don't like being away

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Speaker 4: from the kids. We're doing, as you guys do, like

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Speaker 4: a bunch of live shows. We're doing two live, three

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Speaker 4: hour live shows a week, and you know, so when

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Speaker 4: Sunday kicks off, I don't really stop working until you know,

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Speaker 3: So it's just you know it kind of it can

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Speaker 3: kind of wear on you a little bit.

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Speaker 4: But it's not like I work in a coal mine,

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Speaker 4: and you know, let's not make podcasting.

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Speaker 3: So like terrible.

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Speaker 4: I get fucking tired, dude, adhd One of the main

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Speaker 4: things about ADHD is burnout. Bro and I get burnt out,

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Speaker 4: Like in the middle of the season. I go through

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Speaker 4: these phases of burnout. And so the playoffs came just

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Speaker 4: in time because you know, as I said, during the playoffs,

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Speaker 4: less games and I watch everything, and I think that's

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Speaker 4: you know, to be serious, that's the hard part is

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Speaker 4: like I want to do my job well and I

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Speaker 4: don't want to get caught, you know, with my pants down,

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Speaker 4: so to speak, an uninformed opinion, talk about a player

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Speaker 3: So yeah, there's a lot of pressure to see everything.

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Speaker 1: So you know, the transition from NFL player to media

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Speaker 1: member was was that something that you had always kind

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Speaker 1: of you know, had mapped out because you know that

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Speaker 1: those are the stuff that that your pops how he

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Speaker 1: took you know, NFL god turned media guy. Was that

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Speaker 1: something that you saw for yourself? But is something that

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Speaker 4: Happens, well, if it weren't for podcasts, probably not. I

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Speaker 4: never wanted to be on TV. I still don't. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I am, but I don't love like being on TV.

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Speaker 4: I kind of like, I think the podcast Notoriety is good,

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Speaker 4: like the podcast.

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Speaker 3: Fame is good, you know.

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Speaker 4: And I love running into people and being like, hey,

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Speaker 4: I love the pod that sort of thing. But when

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Speaker 4: what have you, every day got to wake up and

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Speaker 4: of guys like me that wanted to do something after

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Speaker 4: And so starting like kind of indie, while it was

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Speaker 4: I think, you know, like when you play for so long,

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Speaker 4: decades if you include like you know, high school football.

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Speaker 4: That's kind of where I started working like a professional

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Speaker 4: if you look at it that way, you've been on

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Speaker 4: and the whole thing. And I think sometimes you rush

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Speaker 4: to work because you're like a workaholic, and I work

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Speaker 4: myself silly the first couple of years, you know, I

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Speaker 4: a process of figuring out how to find that work

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Speaker 4: life balance. And I think also for a podcast, man,

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Speaker 4: it's like people can tell if you're not happy, people

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Speaker 4: can tell if you're not enjoying it. People can tell

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Speaker 4: if if it's worked to you. So it's about finding

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Speaker 4: that balance. I feel like I'm finally figuring it out

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Speaker 4: where it's like, all right, this is getting easy, don't

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Speaker 3: Yeah, pod podcast famous cool.

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Speaker 1: I can answer say, anyone who's approached me from knowing

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Speaker 1: the podcast, it's always been good vibes right, because I

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Speaker 1: feel like if someone listens to your podcast, they're invested

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Speaker 1: in you. They actually appreciate you, your insight, whatever you have

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Speaker 1: you as opposed to if someone who who you know,

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Speaker 1: if you're like a TV talking head like steven A. Smith,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure he gets approached bydude who just want to

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Speaker 1: argue all the fucking right, And I cannot imagine that

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Speaker 1: type of phrase. I will for sure take those problems

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Speaker 1: with steven A's big account. I'm not gonna say I wouldn't,

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Speaker 1: but sure, yeah, but I can imagine that's a whole

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Speaker 1: different thing from like the podcast angle this, So I

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Speaker 1: totally see what you're saying that those.

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Speaker 3: Guys got to be immune to criticism.

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Speaker 4: It's like, you know, and I'll admit it, I don't

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Speaker 4: think i'd be mentally tough enough to preach to, you know,

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Speaker 4: everybody in America about my football takes day to day

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Speaker 4: like it because there's so much Even if you're right,

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Speaker 4: it's just the volume of criticism and disagreement. You know,

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Speaker 4: at a certain point you're like, dude, like what am

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Speaker 4: I here to prove? Like what I love about a

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Speaker 4: podcast is kind of what you allude to, Like people

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Speaker 4: are opted into your content you found. So if you're here,

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Speaker 4: you know, it's not like I'm being shoved, you know,

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Speaker 3: If you're watching, that's your choice.

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Speaker 4: And so I really enjoy like owning my own stuff

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Speaker 4: and kind of the way we've come up. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: like the TV stuff, man, I think there's a lot

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Speaker 4: And I don't think sports media needs to be about argument.

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Speaker 4: I think that's what they got wrong. Like when you

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Speaker 4: and the only people you're impressing are people that don't

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Speaker 3: And that's kind of what we do.

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Speaker 4: And so I miss out on some of the big

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Speaker 4: But fair and balance no Fox News, it's just fair

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Speaker 4: and balance actually actual being fair and balanced. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 4: I think we're all big believers that.

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Speaker 2: Podcast famous is the correct level of like that's the

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Speaker 2: right that's that's that's the sweet spot we all notice.

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Speaker 2: I think not too long after we started working for

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Speaker 2: the volume, Colin Cowherd had was it He had like

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Speaker 3: Or you know what, like just like it's compalely happens,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're good, Lebron Yeah. Hey, And I love Colin

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Speaker 4: I think Colin's cool because Colin's okay being wrong and

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Speaker 4: You also have to be okay with When you're filling

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Speaker 4: you have to be okay with eating some ls. Dude, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'm not. I don't like losing that much. I'm still competitive.

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Speaker 4: I want to be right and so you know, I

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Speaker 4: don't want to get up there every day and have

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Speaker 4: to just bet MGM is my sponsor, right. I love BENMGM,

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Speaker 4: but they'll send me like, hey, the guys will be hey,

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Speaker 4: BETMGM wants you to do a power rankings this week.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm not doing it. Fuck up power rankings.

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Speaker 4: There's no nuance there, there's no like discussion, there's no context.

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Speaker 4: It's just something somebody's going to dangle over my head

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Speaker 4: a coward, so be it. I just didn't sign up

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Speaker 4: to to be in a dick measuring contest on righteousness

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: How are we?

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Speaker 3: How were sorting out these three and two and four

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Speaker 3: Are we are? We are? We kind of?

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Speaker 4: I just don't like doing that boiled down shit, like, uh,

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Speaker 4: and telling people what I found interesting, and you know,

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Speaker 4: like I'm going to be wrong about some things, and

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Speaker 4: I'm going to be right about some things. You'll hear

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Speaker 4: some insightful things, but more than anything, people want to

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Speaker 4: a good job of that, and we try to too.

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Speaker 2: are Chris. You identify sort of most with the Eagles

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Speaker 2: of the because that's where you finish, or when you

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Speaker 2: sort of look at the teams, you're rooting for the Eagles.

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Speaker 2: I think I heard you say that that that's like

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Speaker 2: the team you're kind of pulling for right now.

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Speaker 3: So I take a lot of pride in that group. Man,

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Speaker 4: We got a group text firing off all week just

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know we got a game coming up

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Speaker 4: And give us the whole picture. Well, the first thing

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Speaker 3: That's it. That's all.

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Speaker 4: Commander's won. Now, my analysis the game goes as follows.

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Speaker 4: How good they're on third and fourth down and money downs,

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Speaker 4: That's how good he's been this year. I always talk

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Speaker 4: And so you know, I've been joking to Eagles fans

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Speaker 3: So I think it's gonna be chippy.

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Speaker 4: I think I think getting Latimore back, you know, after

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Speaker 3: You know? And this isn't even me being a fan

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Speaker 3: boy anymore.

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Speaker 1: I legitimately think the Commanders are gonna win, because I

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Speaker 1: honestly did not think the command is going to beat Detroit.

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Speaker 1: The tro is my pick to make it off the NFC, right,

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Speaker 1: So this isn't just me just being delusional. But even

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Speaker 1: if I was delusional, fuck it. We're in the NFC

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Speaker 1: Championship now. It's not the time to be saying and measured.

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Speaker 1: I'm here for the dude, you know. But yeah, but

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Speaker 1: but but I'm with you on what you said about

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Speaker 1: Jaden and those other quarterbacks that you grouped in with,

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Speaker 1: because I think that that it is a very simple

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Speaker 1: question to post to yourself on if your team has

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Speaker 1: a guy at quarterback, and that question is, do we

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Speaker 1: have a chance to win with this guy a quarterback

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Speaker 1: any any because of him? Yes, because of him, just

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Speaker 1: no other qualifiers. No, if if our defense shows up,

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Speaker 1: we get the run. Again, going is if it's just

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Speaker 1: as simple as saying, we always have a chance to

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Speaker 1: win because of our quarterback. And I think Jayden is

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Speaker 1: in that class with the Lamars and with the with

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Speaker 1: the Mahomes and with the Burrows and with the josh

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Speaker 1: allads like you mentioned, and I think that's a very

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Speaker 1: lege class. Like I don't think Philly fans don't feel

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Speaker 1: that way about Jalen Hurts.

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Speaker 3: You know, No, they don't, and they probably shouldn't.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you know, but I still think you can

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Speaker 4: win with Jalen, like you know, win with when when

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Speaker 4: because of Like I think the Eagles have the best

510
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Speaker 4: roster probably remaining top to bottom in the dance, but

511
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Speaker 4: they probably have the fourth best quarterback. And that's not

512
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Speaker 4: to say there aren't three other damn good ones. I

513
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Speaker 4: just listed what I think of them. I think Jalen,

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Speaker 4: you know, with his history, han't gone to tote with

515
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Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes in the Super Bowl. He's capablets in his body,

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Speaker 4: He's been through a few coordinators. Obviously the injury is

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Speaker 4: gonna matter. But the passing game has just not been

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Speaker 4: a thing they've had to access, you know, like, and

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Speaker 4: I'm all for people talking about, Hey, the passing game

520
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 4: hadn't been good enough, but let's just keep it a bean.

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Speaker 4: It hasn't had to be And if you end up

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Speaker 4: in a game where it is a shootout, we'll see.

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Speaker 4: And you know, in that first game, the Eagles were

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Speaker 4: in the second game, the Eagles were still able to

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Speaker 4: move the ball with those backups, and early in the

526
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Speaker 4: game before Luvu, you know, knock Jalen out of the game,

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Speaker 4: they were moving the football.

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Speaker 3: So I do feel like this week they're going to

529
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Speaker 3: be able to turn it on.

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying it's got to be like thirty five,

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Speaker 4: thirty four if you want to win this game, but

532
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Speaker 4: you might have to get up in the high twenties.

533
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Speaker 4: And this defense is really good right now. And one

534
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Speaker 4: of the biggest things is y'all lost Sam Cosmy, the

535
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Speaker 4: guard who's been playing really well for you all this year,

536
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Speaker 4: and he's out with the ACL. So you know, Jalen

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Speaker 4: Carter is as dominant as anybody left in the playoffs

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Speaker 4: save for Chris Jones up front.

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Speaker 3: That's going to be one that's going to matter a

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Speaker 3: great deal.

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Speaker 2: Uh, do you guys want to have a steering contest

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Speaker 2: via zoom to figure out who's who's gonna win. I

543
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:03,439
Speaker 2: feel like we're split. We got to pick for the

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Speaker 2: Eagles and a pick for the Commanders.

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Speaker 4: I don't know I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go Eagles

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Speaker 4: twenty four twenty one. I mean, you know, like it

547
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Speaker 4: could be higher scoring, but I think it's gonna come

548
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 4: down the last possession. And like listen, we saw like

549
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 4: the Rams march up and down the field in the

550
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 4: snow last week, so and they were without Quinyon who

551
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 4: left early in the game. But I do worry about

552
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Speaker 4: a scenario where you know, you need to defend against

553
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Speaker 4: the touchdown late in the game and these guys are

554
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Speaker 4: in two minute mode. They do such a good job.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you guys know that. Like notice

556
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,199
Speaker 4: is washing them, but playing the numbers game, you know

557
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Speaker 4: they'll split, you know, two stacks way out there, and

558
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Speaker 4: you know it makes you declare defensively what you're doing.

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Speaker 3: And it also lightens the box.

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Speaker 4: And that's gonna be a big thing for the Eagles,

561
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Speaker 4: is like they're gonna spread you out. You got to

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Speaker 4: stop the run with five, six guys at times in

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Speaker 4: the box.

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Speaker 3: And so I'm a little bit worried. Man.

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Speaker 4: I keep telling Eagles fans like they're like, what do

566
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Speaker 4: you think is gonna happen. I'm like, it's gonna be

567
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 4: a tough game, and they look disappointed. But it just

568
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Speaker 4: is what it is. This team is so young and

569
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Speaker 4: inexperience in some ways mixed with the veteran leadership they

570
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Speaker 4: have like Zach Ertz Lulu Wagner. The young guys don't

571
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Speaker 4: know any better and that's a dangerous thing. Like Jane

572
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Speaker 4: Daniels doesn't know any better. He doesn't know he's not

573
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Speaker 4: supposed to be here. So, I mean, you get a

574
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Speaker 4: hot team like this, you never know.

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Speaker 3: What can happen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I mean, I for sure think the

577
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Speaker 1: Eagles are the better squad, but in the playoffs, Bro,

578
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Speaker 1: that doesn't mean much. In the NFL playoffs, oftentimes it's

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Speaker 1: about who's got.

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Speaker 3: The hot hand right exactly. And the Commanders have won

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Speaker 3: seventh straight.

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Speaker 1: Like you said, they've got some youngins there who don't

583
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Speaker 1: know they're not supposed to be there. You know, we've

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Speaker 1: seen Super Bowls get won by teams that had a

585
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Speaker 1: hot hand at the right time, like Eli's Giants, Ye

586
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Speaker 1: Floccos Ravens right, like the better team doesn't often win

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Speaker 1: out in these scenarios.

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Speaker 3: So that's why I'm going to Commanders. Dog.

589
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 4: It's not who you play, it's when you play them.

590
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 4: That's really a true as anything.

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Speaker 1: And if you're playing your best ball in January, Bro,

592
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Speaker 1: that's a really really good thing.

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Speaker 4: They got to avoid the penalties. I looked at who

594
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Speaker 4: the officials are for this game. I know this is

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Speaker 4: some kind of like baseball.

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Speaker 2: I love that.

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Speaker 4: That's great, But Sean Hopley's the official. He's got the

598
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Speaker 4: highest and second highest race of holding in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: I was I was about to say, we're gonna get

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Speaker 2: a lot of holding calls on thirty yard passes.

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Speaker 4: That's right, And you know, like naturally that does favor

602
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Speaker 4: the Eagles because they have such a good group up front.

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Speaker 3: The Commanders had two games.

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Speaker 4: With this crew and they committed half of their offensive

605
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Speaker 4: holding penalties and they just lost Cosy, So you know,

606
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Speaker 4: you kind of have to worry about those. You remember

607
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Speaker 4: they spent like the whole damn game. I think it

608
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Speaker 4: was against Atlanta in like first and twenty. You just

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Speaker 4: can't be in those situations.

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Speaker 2: Do you feel like Jayden's style two of okay, read

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Speaker 2: read pull it down on running? I mean you have

612
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Speaker 2: to feel like that makes it harder on an offensive

613
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Speaker 2: line too, with a crew that's more likely to throw

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Speaker 2: holding if they don't know what direction the quarterbacks going

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Speaker 2: in all the time.

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Speaker 4: I think there's something to that, you know, I think

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Speaker 4: honestly that applies in some ways more for Patrick Mahomes,

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Speaker 4: because when you watch Mahomes, he drifts anywhere from twelve

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Speaker 4: yards nine yards like his drop point which is usually

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Speaker 4: seven eight yards.

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Speaker 3: He'll be wherever, and I think for those guys it

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Speaker 3: could be difficult.

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Speaker 4: Jaden's very He's got really good pocket poise, and he's

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Speaker 4: really decisive.

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Speaker 3: That's what I like.

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Speaker 4: Like the clock goes off, he's not gonna throw an interception,

627
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Speaker 4: He's not gonna take any any risks like which is

628
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Speaker 4: a young for a young guy thing? It's amazing, And

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Speaker 4: then you know, like he's really smart at finding that

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Speaker 4: lane too. And then when you add in the design

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Speaker 4: runs like the way they ice the bucks with that

632
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Speaker 4: little rollout. They've run that a couple times this year.

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Speaker 4: You know, they ran it last week. I think against

634
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Speaker 4: Detroit ni key situation, it's just too tough to defend.

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Speaker 4: That's the guy that you can't account for.

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Speaker 6: You know, Chris, you were a defensive lineman. I'm not

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Speaker 6: sure if everyone else knows that. But talk about and

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Speaker 6: even not penalties like rushing a quarterback that's mobile, they

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Speaker 6: was talking about, oh, keep them in the pocket, like

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Speaker 6: stay wide or whatever, Like how how does true is that?

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Speaker 6: And like what is your how does your approach change

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Speaker 6: from game to game? Even within mobile quarterbacks or mobile

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Speaker 6: to it not mobile, Like what's your how's your approach

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Speaker 6: change there?

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Speaker 4: That's a great question because as many sacks as I

646
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Speaker 4: had in the NFL, I missed a ton and I

647
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Speaker 4: always had trouble with the more athletic guys and we

648
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Speaker 4: used to joke about it, you know, and I'd be like,

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Speaker 4: all right, this year, this week we got a lawn deer,

650
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Speaker 4: like this is a good thing, Like we got like

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Speaker 4: Philip Rivers and then I used to hate like playing.

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Speaker 4: And then there's certain guys that are athletic, but they'll

653
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Speaker 4: give you buckets, like Russell Wilson, like Rush used to.

654
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 4: I mean, Russ is still feeding my family. I used

655
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 4: to sack Russell Wilson so much. You got boring, and uh,

656
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 4: you know, like that was my favorite.

657
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 2: Thing about you, Chris. I really love That's a forty

658
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 2: nin er fan just love watching you sack Russell Wilson.

659
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, now you know, then we play cap and

660
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 4: I'd be like, damn, I could have had four this game,

661
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 4: you know, and somebody else is eating off your whatever.

662
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 4: But you know, I think it varies from quarterback to quarterback,

663
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 4: right because of those drop drop targets. All athletic quarterbacks

664
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 4: are not the same, and all mobile, emobile quarterbacks are

665
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 4: not the same. Like for instance, Tom Brady, he was

666
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 4: really tough to sack. Now he could run, not even

667
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 4: a little bit. He was tough to sack because he

668
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 4: would climb the pocket. So you know, for him it

669
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 4: was really important to have good stout guard play and

670
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 4: he would get the ball out. Now, there's some guys

671
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 4: that you know can't move and they're going to take

672
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 4: all day. I think with Mahomes, for instance, a lot

673
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 4: of coaches will be like, hey, just power rush, cage, cage, cage, whatever,

674
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 4: and you could run right down the center of tackle.

675
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 3: But he's setting for an eight yard drop target.

676
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 4: If this guy's at twelve, now all you are an

677
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 4: edge player in a run play where the quarterback can

678
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 4: go wherever he wants to go, and so you have

679
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 4: to be careful about that. We had plans like where

680
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 4: you have to have a balance up. Guy you get

681
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 4: one of the three techniques is going to get vertical,

682
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 4: he's going to.

683
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 3: Have the one on one.

684
00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 4: If you don't have the one on one, if you

685
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 4: to slide your way, you have to balance up, and

686
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 4: that mean that guy's going to be patty caking to

687
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 4: the line. So you know, it definitely depends with Lamar Jackson.

688
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 4: You know, we've talked about this at length on our show,

689
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 4: like how would you rush him? I think he's a

690
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 4: guy that you have to rush. You have to attack

691
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 4: him because if you give him all day, how many

692
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 4: times has he just broken somebody's back thirty seconds into

693
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 4: a play. You think about the Cincinnati play in the

694
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 4: red zone where he's stiff arming Sam Hubbard and he's

695
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 4: just buying time and his eyes you're down the field,

696
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 4: So everybody's different. You can't fall into the trap of

697
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 4: not being aggressive, though, And I think most guys will

698
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 4: tell you that.

699
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 3: And does it change.

700
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Speaker 6: I know they talk about with Jayden a lot, specifically

701
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 6: that when he rolls out to his right, he's more

702
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 6: to pass into his left. He's usually tucking in and running.

703
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 6: Does that mean that the ends on either side are

704
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 6: probably approaching that differently.

705
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 3: Yes, for sure.

706
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 4: I mean if you're to the quarterback's ball hand side,

707
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 4: you can't let him, especially like somebody like Josh, you know,

708
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 4: break the pocket right with a full head of steam

709
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 4: and threaten the flat player as he climbs towards the

710
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 4: line of screen image, and he never has to break

711
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 4: stride to throw the ball. When you roll away from

712
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 4: your ballhand side, it's a whole deal to stop your

713
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 4: feet and throw the ball.

714
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 3: It's not many guys that can kill you the same way.

715
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 3: So we used to.

716
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 4: We used to do coordinated rushes, like hey, one end's

717
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 4: going high, one end's going power, or one end's taking

718
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,479
Speaker 4: the up and under. We call it fish hook. And

719
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 4: because I was a slower guy, it was always me

720
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 4: with the power and Bob Robert Quinn was the run

721
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 4: around the edge guy and he'd make the play. And

722
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 4: so that's the point, is like somebody's got to flush

723
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 4: him and somebody's got to run him down and you

724
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 4: and oftentimes we would flush a guy to his ballhand side,

725
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 4: invite him to think he's escaping the pocket because that

726
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 4: looks like a bag of money to him. But Robert Quinn,

727
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 4: who runs a four or five, is running a ten

728
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 4: yard hoop, so you know you can play games with

729
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 4: it too.

730
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 2: You, as a defensive lineman, how do you feel about

731
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 2: the increasingly shrinking strike zone in which you are allowed

732
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 2: to contact the quarterback. I have a friend who's a

733
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 2: d lineman who literally told me he is like, I

734
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 2: honestly wish they'd just put a fucking red penny on

735
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 2: him and say if we hit him with two hands,

736
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 2: their sacks, you know, so that we don't have the

737
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 2: thing of like you got a three hundred and fifty

738
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 2: pound guy who's shoving his fist in your throat, you

739
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 2: get around him and fall towards the quarterback, sack him

740
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 2: ah two inches below.

741
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 4: The knee, you know, yeah, And I think the knee

742
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 4: things when that happened, that was the Brady thing, right

743
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 4: when he got hurt in training camp, So that changed things.

744
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 4: I think the high hits definitely like got a little

745
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 4: bit more pronounced as my career went on. Like I

746
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:44,959
Speaker 4: look back at some hits that I made and like

747
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 4: we made back in the day, and I guess I'm

748
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 4: old enough now to say back in the day, but

749
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 4: like they would be so fucking illegal now, and they

750
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,479
Speaker 4: were things that people calls dirty and we were just playing.

751
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 4: We were playing hard, we were playing to punish it.

752
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 4: But now you really have to be care about that stuff.

753
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 4: And I think where it mostly changed for me was

754
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,719
Speaker 4: the strike zone. Shrinking is one thing, but when you

755
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 4: couldn't land on the guy anymore, that's a really tough proposition,

756
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 4: especially for guys that are trying to hit a moving

757
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 4: target that are oftentimes coming in out of control, that

758
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 4: just want to get the guy down. A perfect form

759
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 4: tackle is now a penalty in the pocket. So I

760
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 4: think that's the the that was the straw that broke

761
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 4: the camel's back for me. I remember last year I suplexed.

762
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 4: I don't know who was it was it Matt Ryan,

763
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 4: and I got a penalty and I thought it was

764
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 4: like a perfect hit, but you know, I landed on him.

765
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 4: I was like, maybe it's time for me to go

766
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 4: man like, it's just not what it once was. But

767
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 4: at the same time, when you watch a playoff game

768
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 4: and like Joe Webb's starting or something for sure, then

769
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 4: everybody's like this sucks. So as a player, I hated it,

770
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 4: But as a businessman and somebody who's like now an analyst, like,

771
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 4: we do have to protect the quarterbacks. They're just can't.

772
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 4: Like those two calls last week with Mahomes, the Will

773
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 4: Anderson one, he did not hit him in the head,

774
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 4: just didn't hit in the head.

775
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 3: But when I watched it in real time, I thought

776
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 3: it was a penalty.

777
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 4: And that says defensive liignment because I'm so cute into

778
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 4: knowing where the hot stove is, and you know, like

779
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 4: that when Will Anderson says after the game, it's we

780
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 4: knew it was us against the refs, And I love Will,

781
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 4: but and that's if I was his coach, what I'd

782
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,879
Speaker 4: say is, if you know that you got a free

783
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 4: run at the guy. Lower your strike zone, and it's

784
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 4: the same thing. Actually, the second penalty to me was

785
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 4: was cut and dry. Whether you like it or not,

786
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 4: just don't risk hitting him in the head. Don't risk

787
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 4: your elbow hitting him in the head, don't risk your

788
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 4: helmet hit him in the head.

789
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 3: Does the rules suck? Yeah?

790
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 4: Does it suck that guy can just drop out of

791
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 4: thin air beyond the line of scrimmage? Yes, But this

792
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 4: is the reality we live in. So what are we arguing?

793
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 4: We arguing about what we should do or what it

794
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 4: should be. Like, what we should do is try to

795
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 4: play smart football. And I think again we talk about

796
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 4: the Chiefs getting calls and that sort of thing. They're

797
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:04,760
Speaker 4: one of the most well coached teams in the league,

798
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 4: so you know, it does not surprise me to come

799
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 4: playoff time they're doing less of the stupid shit. I

800
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 4: went back over the last day and a half, sitting

801
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 4: on the Amtrak down from Philly, and watched every penalty

802
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 4: that opponents of the Chiefs were issued over the last

803
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 4: two Super Bowl runs. I could only find disagreement with

804
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 4: like one and a half. You know, a lot of

805
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 4: those situations. I'll give you an example, Ohsai hitting him

806
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 4: out of bounds when he played Cincinnati.

807
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 3: You remember that it's a fucking penalty.

808
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 4: It was a dumb ass play, you know like, and

809
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 4: everybody's all mad that they call it, But I'm like,

810
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 4: be mad at the guy for fucking up the moment

811
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 4: by doing something dumb.

812
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 2: You know, I would say the only one. I mean,

813
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,240
Speaker 2: I agree with you, rad Berry. Yeah, Like the refshit

814
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,800
Speaker 2: is always overblown. The one thing I don't like that

815
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 2: Pat Mahomes does, I feel like Josh Allen does it

816
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 2: some is both the sideline easing up to bait the

817
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 2: guy into the contact to draw the fifteen yard flag,

818
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 2: you know, like, and it reminds me what we talked

819
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 2: more NBA on our show. It very much reminds me

820
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 2: of the like jumping sideways into the guy to get

821
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 2: the foul call that eventually the refs sort of correct

822
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 2: their way out of just because everyone's distaste for it.

823
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 4: Gruse to the point that they had And last week

824
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 4: he did that shit and they didn't call it, you know,

825
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 4: which which to me was a good thing. It's like,

826
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 4: and I think it's so easy when you see a

827
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 4: team in prime time and you feel so viscerally that

828
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 4: you hate the team, which I understand, Like we grew

829
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,320
Speaker 4: up with the Yankees, we grew up with the Cowboys,

830
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 4: we grew up the Patriots. Like, but they're trying to

831
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 4: get these calls, right, I think some people like really

832
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 4: think the game is fixed. And I can tell you

833
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,720
Speaker 4: it's not like when you go back and watch these calls.

834
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 4: I'm telling you I watched all the opponent penalties and

835
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,280
Speaker 4: it's just not what people make it to be. Now,

836
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,439
Speaker 4: when you're great, you're gonna get some calls like Josh

837
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 4: Allen flops, he gets calls. Patrick maho those flops, he

838
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 4: gets calls. It's not just Patrick mahomes. And if you

839
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 4: watch every game every Sunday, there's a terrible call in

840
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,479
Speaker 4: every game. Well, because the Chiefs are in prime time,

841
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 4: everybody's like up yep every time, Like oh yeah, every

842
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 4: time you watch them, it's the only fucking game you're watching.

843
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean I've always been on the side

844
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: that that, you know, if the ref focks your team over,

845
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:23,839
Speaker 1: just give it some time.

846
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 3: They'll fuck the other team over to. They're gonna fuck

847
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 3: the other team over to. Yeah you know, I'm a

848
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 3: personal Yeah, yeah, it's funny, like we.

849
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: Said last week, but with the commanders and the lines,

850
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: when when Golf got his ship cracked on that pick

851
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: six misscall and then they and then they had a

852
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 1: phantom face mask, you know, for Detroit's favor Then, like

853
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: the scales always balance out, Bro.

854
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 4: They do balance out. It's always tough in a vacuum

855
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 4: if it's a big game to to say, hey, that

856
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 4: that stocked. I mean for Eagles fans, that Bradberry hold

857
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 4: was borderline, like you know, and that definitely affected the

858
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 4: outcome of the game. But I also think there's a

859
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:00,439
Speaker 4: ton of bad calls every week.

860
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, especially especially you talk about holding or

861
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 2: the pass interference back and forth. It's like expecting people

862
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 2: to get that right at the speed that the game

863
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 2: is happening is kind of nuts.

864
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 3: You know.

865
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 4: I mean it's just and you know, my buddy doctor

866
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 4: Fax on my pod his heat Bro, don't get him going.

867
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 4: He gets so mad about like they should just be

868
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 4: able to correct every mistake, like you know, when they

869
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 4: started doing the replay assistant, He's like, they could do

870
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 4: that for everything. I'm like, well, the problem is once

871
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 4: you start to enforce the standard that anything that is

872
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 4: a foul is called, We're going to have the slowest

873
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 4: game in America. You think baseball is slow once you

874
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 4: start going back and litigating things in retrospect every break

875
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 4: in the game, we could have twenty two people watching

876
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 4: every fucking player individually, and the and the play would

877
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,439
Speaker 4: stop every play, you know, and then people would be like, well,

878
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 4: the officiating's perfect, but nobody's watching football.

879
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 3: And I also think the imperfection is kind of fun.

880
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 4: We love how much engagement does the NFL get during

881
00:38:58,360 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 4: a TV time out when there's a review.

882
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 3: I mean it is, It's awesome.

883
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 4: It's like all eyes are on the product, and you know,

884
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 4: I think the imperfection can sometimes add a little bit

885
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 4: of drama.

886
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 2: I agree with that. I mean, from the baseball perspective,

887
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 2: people always complain about the umpires. They did some someone

888
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 2: did a study that was like ninety nine point two

889
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 2: percent of calls are correct on ball or strike or something.

890
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 2: I go like, I could make you an argument that's

891
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 2: the greatest achievement in human history.

892
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:29,240
Speaker 3: It's amazing because you're the movement on those pitches and.

893
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 2: All that, and the fact that the strike zone is

894
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 2: a theoretical concept.

895
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 3: It's like real, right, I've never seen a strike zone.

896
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, but it's the same thing with the NFL guys.

897
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 2: It's just like you you watched two Marshall you know,

898
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 2: MMA fighters going and then determine which one of them held,

899
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 2: and you know, if you get that right, you know

900
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 2: you get that wrong one time out of one hundred. Congratulations,

901
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 2: like an honorary doctorate.

902
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 3: You know, no question.

903
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,399
Speaker 4: So yeah, I think I think what the NFL could

904
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 4: do to fix it, to start paying these officials better

905
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 4: and make them doing make them do this job and

906
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 4: only this job.

907
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 3: Like I can't believe this some of those guys.

908
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's an aniquated take if now

909
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 4: they're just doing it primarily, but there was a point

910
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 4: and I think it still is where the officials are

911
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 4: doing other ship. Yeah, like it should be really competitive

912
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 4: and it should be the only thing you're doing, and

913
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,240
Speaker 4: that it's it's the it's.

914
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 2: The weird thing with the length of the season because

915
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 2: the NBA and Major League those are full time employees.

916
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 2: They are there's the mandated training is huge. There's lots

917
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 2: around what they're allowed to travel, all this, you know,

918
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,879
Speaker 2: all this other kind of stuff and the NFL. There's

919
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 2: a lot of NFL uh referees you could buy a

920
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 2: house from because they're real to the other six. Yeah,

921
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 2: I mean that's that. I do think it's better.

922
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 4: But yeah, Carl Cheffer's is like some sales guru.

923
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like fucking crazy.

924
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 6: One time, my friends and I were staying in an

925
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 6: Airbnb to the owner was someone in the Hockey Lee family,

926
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 6: where like, what the hell, that's.

927
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 4: No way, yes, swear it was nuts. Do you think

928
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 4: they had fucking cameras in there?

929
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 3: Good questions?

930
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 4: That Airbnb camera thing kind of freaks you out. Due

931
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 4: I'm a big believer in like whatever, like what are

932
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 4: you gonna do with it? What are you gonna do

933
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,800
Speaker 4: with it? You know, it's kind of like China's seeing

934
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 4: my text? Whatever, what are you gonna do with it?

935
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 2: I do think for our generation, the concept of privacy

936
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 2: is very funny because I think for those of us

937
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 2: who remember life before the Internet, we're like, well, when

938
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 2: the Internet started, where there's no such thing as privacy, no.

939
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 4: Privacy, there's no privacy, bro, Yeah.

940
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 2: So whatever someone whatever, some of someone's text league like, well,

941
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 2: what would happen if the if your guys' text League.

942
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 2: It's just like I text John and Tyler the exact

943
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 2: way we talk on the podcast, because we're on the

944
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 2: podcast in my head, like we're also very trained.

945
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 4: To only say things that that, you know, like we

946
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 4: say things in public all the time, so like we

947
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,240
Speaker 4: kind of the same way probably in private.

948
00:41:56,320 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: It's just who you are, all right, Chiefs been go ahead, Tyler, No,

949
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask them. You know who you had

950
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 1: in the AFC Tide of Game. Oh, I got the Bills.

951
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 1: I got the Bills. I just I'm kind of married

952
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: to the take that.

953
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 4: Eventually, you just kind of you you feel good about

954
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 4: a matchup. I thought, like, yeah, they beat him in

955
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:21,760
Speaker 4: the regular season, that whole thing. Chiefs have a corner

956
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 4: up who wasn't up in that game. That definitely is

957
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 4: gonna help. But I look at this and I say, like, hey,

958
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 4: which quarterback has played better this year? Like in games

959
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 4: where they have to score twenty eight thirty points? Like

960
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 4: the Chiefs have not been stressed a great deal this season. Listen,

961
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 4: are they incredible? Absolutely? But the referee is also Cleate Blakeman,

962
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 4: who they're five and six straight up with him as

963
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 4: the referee. You hear that fifty four percent of the

964
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 4: penalties get called against the home teams. Home teams are

965
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 4: five and eleven this year. When Cleate Blakeman calls a game,

966
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 4: the Bills are six and two with him. Guys, this

967
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 4: is a Bill's spot. Who's gonna cover Dalton kin k

968
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 4: You know, that's the thing about the Bills. They got

969
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,399
Speaker 4: guys all over the field. They don't have a true

970
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 4: number one and people it's funny because people wanted to

971
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 4: say Josh didn't have any talent around him to start

972
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 4: the season. They were saying like, hey, the Bills are

973
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 4: in this rebuild, and now if you didn't like him

974
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 4: for MVP, you say, well, he's got Shakiir, he's got Cooper,

975
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 4: he's got Coleman, he's got Kincaid, he has the running backs. Well, yeah,

976
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 4: everybody's elevated because he's playing so well. And I also

977
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 4: think Joe Brady's done a great job. They got a

978
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 4: great offensive line coach and Aaron Cromer. The run game

979
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 4: has been a huge part of it. I just think

980
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 4: in this game they have a slight advantage of if

981
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 4: this game had to be a higher scoring game, it's

982
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 4: in favor of the Bills now the defense isn't great.

983
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:43,760
Speaker 3: Safety plays not great.

984
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 4: They played big in big spots like last week, but

985
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 4: they also there's a bunch of plays like last week

986
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 4: where you're like, damn, they were dead to rights in

987
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 4: that situation. Either Baltimore didn't take advantage of it or

988
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 4: they did and they didn't get seven out of it.

989
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 4: Like when they hit that big shot down the field

990
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 4: to Bateman before the half and they come up with

991
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 4: just a field goal. Well, you got to give Buffalo

992
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 4: some credit there, Like they know when to tighten up

993
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 4: and make big plays, the turnovers that punch out in midfield.

994
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 4: So I'm really interested to see how this game plays out.

995
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,240
Speaker 4: But I will be putting my money on the Bills.

996
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 3: So fourth time's the try on for you.

997
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 4: Basically, yeah, dude, I because in the past, the Chiefs

998
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 4: were a better team, you know, like last year, the

999
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 4: Chiefs defense was incredible. I mean, like, hey, and I

1000
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 4: picked the Chiefs to win the Super Bowl last year

1001
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 4: when people told me I was crazy, people told me

1002
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 4: they were done. But it's because they had that great

1003
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 4: defense and they could overcome certain things. Defense this year

1004
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 4: is very good, but they're not as good as they were,

1005
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 4: and I think you're gonna have a hard time get

1006
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 4: getting Josh off the field on third down.

1007
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, you made some really good points, but I'm still

1008
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: going Chiefs because you know, like I said, you're making

1009
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 1: a lot of sense here, but nothing about the Chiefs

1010
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: makes sense though. They're just gonna win, you know. That's

1011
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: That's just where I'm at with him. Bro, Like they've

1012
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,320
Speaker 1: when they're sixteen to one. Yeah, you know there's sixteen

1013
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 1: to one team, and we're not going to look at

1014
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:02,839
Speaker 1: that team as an all time great team. I think

1015
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: we're going to look at that team as a team

1016
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: as a testament to just how that chief system is clicking. Right, Like,

1017
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 1: they're not going to go down in the history books

1018
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 1: as an all time great team. But I do have

1019
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: them winning the Super Bowl. I think they're going to

1020
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 1: get past Buffalo. I think that Spags is probably going

1021
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 1: to scheme up another beauty and Mahomes is just going

1022
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: to make all the throws he knees, so all the conversions,

1023
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: all the tds.

1024
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 3: I think it's just going to come down to that.

1025
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 2: Bro.

1026
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 3: Like I said, I just got to see the Chiefs

1027
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 3: get knocked off their shit to believe it.

1028
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 2: Bro.

1029
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, And I totally understand that, and certainly I've

1030
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 4: been a big fan of their greatness kind of spectating

1031
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 4: it over a couple of years. I've never been one

1032
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 4: to be like, hey, they're overrated, they're fraudulent, and you

1033
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 4: can tell the way I defend the officiating thing that

1034
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 4: I really respect what they have. But it's so hard

1035
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 4: to win three of these in a row. Statistic statistically

1036
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 4: be a huge anomaly just to play this well in

1037
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 4: the playoffs consecutively. Hey, but if they win this game,

1038
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 4: they're going to match you up pretty well against whoever

1039
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 4: they play. And uh, that's why I thought, personally, I

1040
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 4: thought the winner of Baltimore and Buffalo was kind of

1041
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 4: the super Bowl favorite.

1042
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 6: So what's your take on Spags. I'm curious because I

1043
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,320
Speaker 6: feel like we've reached a point with him and the broadcast.

1044
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 6: I mean, he's obviously a great defensive coordinator, but the

1045
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 6: broadcasts are talking about him and the timing of these

1046
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 6: blitzes that he's like he's Michael Jordan. They're like, he

1047
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 6: Spags has done it again. There's no doubt this time

1048
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 6: he's gonna dial up the perfect pressure.

1049
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 3: Did you last week?

1050
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 6: He's great, But I'm just like we're talking about their

1051
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 6: offensive line is trash. We're just talking about him, like

1052
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 6: he is the greatest brain in defensive football history.

1053
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:43,280
Speaker 3: It's kind of crazy.

1054
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 4: He's pretty great. I mean, like, that's a tough defense

1055
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 4: to plan. Everybody has to be really sound, Like you

1056
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 4: have to know a lot of different rules, you have

1057
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 4: to play with gap technique, you know, like you really

1058
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 4: have to be It's not like a fuck around, run

1059
00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:00,359
Speaker 4: up the field, wreck havoc defense for Chris Jones, it is,

1060
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 4: but everybody else's job is clean this guy up. And

1061
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:07,280
Speaker 4: so I just think spags Is is a great coordinator.

1062
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 4: He showed it over time, like and it's not always

1063
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 4: that he's had the most talented defenses. You know, there's

1064
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 4: some guys that you know, if if the Chiefs and

1065
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:21,240
Speaker 4: the Eagles played in the Super Bowl, how many players

1066
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 4: outside of Christ Janes are you taking over the player

1067
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 4: that plays that position for the Eagles defense?

1068
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 3: Like the Eagles have a lot of talent.

1069
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 4: Chiefs are talented, But like you said, timely pressure, you know,

1070
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 4: he has some staples. He's also just one of the

1071
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 4: best pressure designers, Like not just when to when to

1072
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 4: come with pressure, but like every pressure has a little story,

1073
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 4: Like if you watch it, things make sense, you know,

1074
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 4: people I hate the stats, and this is one of

1075
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 4: the problems with analytics where it's like, hey, this this

1076
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 4: player is this good against the blitz, so we shouldn't

1077
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,439
Speaker 4: blitz them. Well, if the sample size includes a bunch

1078
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 4: of ship bird decordinators who are bringing safeties from like

1079
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 4: ten yards off the line, scrimmage and just kind of

1080
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 4: playing Patty Cake with Yeah, it's an extra rusher, but

1081
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 4: it ain't the same as Spags, you know, seeing that

1082
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 4: you're in a condensed formation, you're varying the look and

1083
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 4: you're gonna bring edge pressure. I thought the CJ. Stroud,

1084
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 4: you know, kind of third quarter they had the drive

1085
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,760
Speaker 4: of the year out of the half, and then Spags

1086
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:20,479
Speaker 4: was like, all right, let's stop fucking around.

1087
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 3: He just turned the dial and it was amazing to

1088
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 3: me that they blitzed him.

1089
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 4: I think seven plays in a row, ten of eighteen

1090
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 4: in the second half on dropbacks, and that fourth and

1091
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,399
Speaker 4: ten was so fucking confusing me. Why Demico rushed them

1092
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 4: up to the line when they haven't picked up a

1093
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 4: free runner all year and snapped the ball with three

1094
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 4: seconds to go in the snack on the shot clock there.

1095
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 4: I mean, it's like and that's what the Chiefs do.

1096
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 4: They let other people make mistakes. We talked about on

1097
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 4: the other team fucks up.

1098
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 2: Yes, they rushed two plays on like a fourth and

1099
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,399
Speaker 2: then like late in the first half. And that's how

1100
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 2: good you have to play to beat the Chiefs. As

1101
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 2: you could point to the two times that they really

1102
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 2: fucked up and they paid super hard for them both times.

1103
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, every team has a chance to beat the Chiefs

1104
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 4: when you play close games like this.

1105
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 3: You can point to any game and be like, that

1106
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 3: was their chance.

1107
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 4: And it could be obvious like Denver, or it could

1108
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 4: be like the first Houston matchup after Tank Dell got hurt,

1109
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 4: they got to stop on fourth down there in midfield

1110
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 4: and you got a freshet of downs, a chance to

1111
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 4: go up in the game field position.

1112
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 3: Here's what Houston did.

1113
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 4: They fucked up a screen and then Dalton Schultz drops

1114
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 4: an out like he just drops the ball, and that

1115
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 4: was your chance.

1116
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:31,399
Speaker 3: And that's the thing.

1117
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 4: You never know when your moment is in the NFL,

1118
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 4: like that moment of truth, and sometimes it comes early

1119
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 4: in the game, sometimes it comes late. But when you

1120
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 4: play the Chiefs, the crack in the door is like

1121
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 4: this big. You gotta get through it and if you don't,

1122
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 4: you're fucked.

1123
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 1: Sixteen and one and twelve of those wins were one

1124
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 1: possession game games.

1125
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 3: They're good at this stuff. Yeah, they want to win.

1126
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 2: Man, should we do one batshit and non football topic?

1127
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:56,800
Speaker 3: Love it? Okay?

1128
00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 2: I got a tweet here. I sent this to the

1129
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 2: Jones group chat from Brian Johnson. He's an anti aging

1130
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:08,919
Speaker 2: guru who is raising his son on anti aging guru shit.

1131
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 2: Brian Johnson tweeted nighttime erection data from my nineteen year

1132
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 2: old son and me. His duration is two minutes longer

1133
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 2: than mine. Raise children to stand tall, be firm and

1134
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 2: be upright. And he's got like a little Apple Watch

1135
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 2: thing here with number of erection episodes, total duration, average

1136
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 2: erection quality, and then also sleep efficiency, which seems a

1137
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 2: little like the odd man out in those metrics.

1138
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 4: So to him, Boners, it's like the pyramid of health,

1139
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 4: the bottom is Boners, and then like sleep is somewhere

1140
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 4: up here. How about fucking brook. I mean that's his

1141
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 4: nineteen year old son. I have so many questions. Number one,

1142
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 4: does your son's how how bad? Do you not want

1143
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 4: to pay your own rent son, that you're living with

1144
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 4: your dad, who's measuring your boners like that?

1145
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 3: To me is just insane.

1146
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 4: How little this kid wants to get a fucking job, Like, dude,

1147
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 4: get a job, escape your captor and stop letting him

1148
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 4: measure your boners.

1149
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 3: This is not normal. It's not normal boner metrics. That's crazy.

1150
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:17,800
Speaker 3: It's crazy, dude boner.

1151
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 4: Like, Yeah, what's up with all these guys now on

1152
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 4: the internet where they all got some fucking something like

1153
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 4: this to say and they put it on Instagram as

1154
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 4: a cesspool of this? Now crazy the guy drinks? Is

1155
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 4: this guy drinks his own piss?

1156
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 3: I'm like, bro, like, I'm just overf No, it's like

1157
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 3: for help.

1158
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 4: I'm like, dude, if I see another person just making

1159
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 4: some ship up on Instagram, I'm gonna lose my mind.

1160
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 3: Lose my mind. Yep.

1161
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 2: Hey, you know I coach. I coach my eleven year

1162
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 2: old son in baseball, and I showed I showed that

1163
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 2: tweet to my wife and I was like, hitting off

1164
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 2: the tee when it's cold outside and see him was

1165
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 2: super fucking normal, now, doesn't it?

1166
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:02,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'm not that bad.

1167
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 1: And why is it comparing himself to us, Like that's

1168
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 1: weird as fun too, Like like I was two minutes

1169
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 1: sturdier than myself.

1170
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 3: What the fuck? What are you doing?

1171
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 4: Why that you can't just let this guy be great.

1172
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 4: You can't let you can't let him be great. You

1173
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 4: have to rain on literally, like yeah.

1174
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 3: Don't step is thick up?

1175
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 2: Come on?

1176
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 4: That's insane, dude. Just what I've realized is people are

1177
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 4: just crazy. Most people are just crazy.

1178
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have assumed so because we grew up in

1179
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 2: a world where you did not have an X ray

1180
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 2: into what everyone's thoughts were around you, we have a

1181
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 2: presumed level of sanity that was probably always not justified.

1182
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 3: I never thought I was naive.

1183
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 4: I think we were all little naive, Like we were

1184
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 4: the most the most cynical of us.

1185
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,800
Speaker 3: We're still naive, very naives.

1186
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 2: We were naive about our naivete as it turns.

1187
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:10,359
Speaker 3: Out, Fuck, dude, measure, where did.

1188
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 7: Like is that app in the app store? Like there's

1189
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 7: a boner app? Like, where did you even get that? I? Actually,

1190
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 7: I'm I apologize for this. I did follow this rabbit

1191
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 7: hole down. So this dude is like obsessed with anti aging.

1192
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 7: This is like his thing, and so he so.

1193
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 2: He tests he does like fucking thirty blood tests a

1194
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 2: month on himself for like tell him your length, and

1195
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,240
Speaker 2: like all this other ship and his son's name.

1196
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 4: Brian, How could I forget a name like Brian Johnson?

1197
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 4: That sounds so fucking fake?

1198
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 2: He named his son Palmage Johnson. Yeah, and so oh

1199
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 2: this guy is the blood purifier. But yes that he's

1200
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 2: like given his and he's donated his blood to his

1201
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 2: dad to help with his anti aging and stuff.

1202
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 4: Okay, I just if this. I know I've seen this

1203
00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 4: guy take pictures and be like look at me. I'm

1204
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 4: I'm fifty four, and I'm like, you look like a

1205
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 4: weird sixty like just because that's what people need to realize,

1206
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 4: is like aging gracefully is is like actually cool, Like

1207
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 4: fighting agent gracefully is what's uncool. And if you end

1208
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 4: up looking like Brian Johnson.

1209
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 6: Belongs in total recall, Like he doesn't look like he

1210
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 6: belongs on Earth.

1211
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 4: He looks like somebody's gonna come out of his stomach

1212
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:28,439
Speaker 4: like in total recall. Yeah, he doesn't look healthy. I'll

1213
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 4: tell you that much.

1214
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:33,320
Speaker 2: Well, you haven't seen his telemerors, buddy, He's.

1215
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 3: Look, I've seen all that data.

1216
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 2: This guy, this guy sounds like you don't know how

1217
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 2: high quality his erections are.

1218
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:48,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's sitting there with a fucking radiation helmet measuring

1219
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:54,240
Speaker 4: his meat. Look at his little helmet. The first immortal human.

1220
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:58,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody, that was my favorite response someone had on Twitter,

1221
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 2: was going meet for me on the timeline with your

1222
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 2: teen name son is wild.

1223
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 4: That's what that's what bonding looks like these days. Guys

1224
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 4: used to sit and watch a ball game with your dad,

1225
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:13,720
Speaker 4: and now.

1226
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 2: We're doing it all wrong. Man, I guess, Yeah, what

1227
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 2: are the rules like?

1228
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:19,879
Speaker 4: Here's what I is it like one of those things

1229
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 4: where how does he prepare? Does he get to prepare

1230
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:24,280
Speaker 4: himself in private?

1231
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? I don't want to know.

1232
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 2: I don't know. There was a line at which I

1233
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 2: decided I didn't want more.

1234
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:33,240
Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you for not for not crossing that line.

1235
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was further down the rabbit hole than it

1236
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 2: probably should have been.

1237
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 3: A total fake name.

1238
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 4: He looks he looks like he looks like a guy

1239
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 4: from Star Trek. He looks like the guy from Star Trek.

1240
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, the little yellow skin motherfucker. Yeah, a little yellow

1241
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 3: skin keebler elf looking on it. Yeah, him a weird sixty.

1242
00:55:56,520 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 4: I still can't get over healthy fifty two.

1243
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:02,919
Speaker 3: I think it's not right.

1244
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 1: I'm for sure seen his due because he'll be like, yeah,

1245
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:09,319
Speaker 1: I slipped in a hyperbaric chamber. I'm only eating like

1246
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 1: real kidney beans and my inner my internal organs are

1247
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:14,359
Speaker 1: aged like forty eight and I'm fifty two.

1248
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 3: I'm like, motherfucker, that's not worth it.

1249
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 4: Like your life sucks. Like I just had a fucking

1250
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 4: I just had a fucking joint. I'm gonna pack us

1251
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 4: in in a little bit. If I want to eat

1252
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 4: some Mexican food, I'm gonna eat it later, and then

1253
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 4: I'm gonna get on the treadmill in the morning like

1254
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 4: a normal human being and just try to balance it out.

1255
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 4: You're gonna live four hundred years and it's gonna be

1256
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:35,280
Speaker 4: the worst quality of life ever.

1257
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember we had a lot of fun with

1258
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:40,319
Speaker 2: it on this podcast. But when the when the like

1259
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 2: conservative male thing became like sun tanning your taint or whatever,

1260
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 2: just being like I'm cool, Like I actually kind of

1261
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 2: like being sad.

1262
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:50,919
Speaker 3: I'll take a vitamin D pill.

1263
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I don't mind not being happy if that's

1264
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 2: what the cost of that is, Like I can just

1265
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 2: be sad. I'll listen to some fucking Neil Young and like,

1266
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,879
Speaker 2: that's a cool Wednesday to me, bro Like, I don't

1267
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 2: need to get my.

1268
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 4: Ass with my butt cheeks spread like Mike Honcho.

1269
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:15,839
Speaker 2: All right, Chris, thanks so much for having so many followers.

1270
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 3: What the fuck?

1271
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 4: Like?

1272
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 3: What does it come out? All right?

1273
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 2: People need to update on the fucking erection quality. They're

1274
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 2: like they've got notifications turned on. Probably, Chris, thanks for

1275
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 2: joining us. Good luck to you. He goes have fun

1276
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 2: in the suite. Let us. I'm curious to see how

1277
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 2: that works out with the no commanders.

1278
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 4: Well, I'll find out with my boys. Shout out to

1279
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 4: Bernie and Keith. Okay, Bernie and Keith do the right thing.

1280
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 2: You don't want to be out there in the elements

1281
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 2: at the link, you know, with Jayden's driving the ball

1282
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 2: with two minutes left to win that game. You would

1283
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 2: rather be in the suite wearing a.

1284
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 4: Fucking my brothers in Burgundy and Gold brothers and.

1285
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 1: Hey, good luck, good luck this week and we're gonna

1286
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:01,959
Speaker 1: beat We're gonna sneak them boys.

1287
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, man, what do we get? What kind

1288
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 3: of that we get here? You and I can. We'll

1289
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 3: work on the terms on the phone. We'll figure it out.

1290
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 3: We'll figure some ship out. I'll do it all my ship,

1291
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 3: you know, or or you know, you'll do it on

1292
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 3: your ship. Yes, perfect.

1293
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 2: Two nights fig two nights of sleep with the erection measure.

1294
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 4: No, no, dude, I'm gonna fucking I'm gonna hurt that guy.

1295
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 4: You want to find out how how to not be immortal,

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Speaker 4: I'll fuck around.

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Speaker 3: Get away from me, Brian. All Right, y'all. I appreciate

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Speaker 3: good seeing y'all. Man, take it easy.

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Speaker 1: The volume