Speaker 1: Hey the folks, it is Saturday, July twelfth, and welcome
Speaker 1: to your recovery run, because Lord knows we all could
Speaker 1: use a recovery. Welcome as folks to this episode, Amy
Speaker 1: and TJ here and Robes. I'm glad we started doing
Speaker 1: this because it is nice to take a break. But
Speaker 1: we talk about a recovery run. We are runners and
Speaker 1: it means something in the running world to have a
Speaker 1: recovery run.
Speaker 2: Yes, this is something every runner, especially a long distance
Speaker 2: runner does, at least we try to do.
Speaker 3: It once a week.
Speaker 2: It's a short, low intensity run and it's supposed to
Speaker 2: help your body recover after all the hard workouts from
Speaker 2: the week. It's meant to be easy and relaxed. It
Speaker 2: shouldn't over exert the body.
Speaker 3: I actually love this. It's supposed to go.
Speaker 2: Around twenty to thirty minutes, which is exactly what our
Speaker 2: podcast definitely is.
Speaker 1: This is the recovery we need. A break is here
Speaker 1: on the mics from what is a long, difficult, sometimes
Speaker 1: intense week. And Robes one of the one of the
Speaker 1: things that did lift some weight and that helped recovery
Speaker 1: was just getting past the Didy trial. Look, yes, it
Speaker 1: was a lot of work for as time wise, hours wise,
Speaker 1: stayed up late and getting up really early, but just
Speaker 1: to not be constantly in that content, folks could avoid
Speaker 1: it and have to read articles, didn't have to watch TV.
Speaker 1: We were reading so much in transcripts of that thing
Speaker 1: that it's nice to not be reading that stuff in here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the material was very heavy and dark and complicated,
Speaker 2: and you.
Speaker 3: Felt torn in a lot of ways.
Speaker 2: So it was emotionally taxing as well. And yeah, we
Speaker 2: were constantly looking for the updates and what's happening next.
Speaker 2: So with that now in the rear view mirror, that
Speaker 2: does create a huge sense of relaxation and relief in
Speaker 2: that stuff.
Speaker 1: I don't I think sometimes I think what businesses they
Speaker 1: talk about? I think it's was it? Firefighters? Is it?
Speaker 1: There are certain professions, journalists among them, where people have
Speaker 1: high rates of divorce, high rates of alcoholism, and all
Speaker 1: these look we see and we do. We don't think
Speaker 1: about it that much. I think, I don't think we're
Speaker 1: desensitized to it. We don't think about it anymore. But
Speaker 1: when you're constantly consuming, consuming negative, negative, negative, you can
Speaker 1: go back to I mean January, we're still talking about
Speaker 1: the fires in La. Just think about that every day.
Speaker 1: Every day, every day we're seeing death and destruction.
Speaker 2: The Texas flooding has been really hard. I have actually
Speaker 2: tried to because I know, look, if we had still
Speaker 2: been working at ABC, we know where we'd be. We'd
Speaker 2: be in Texas and telling those stories and seeing all
Speaker 2: of those children's faces and being parents and knowing that
Speaker 2: we've sent our kids to summer camps for three weeks
Speaker 2: at a time where they haven't had access to their phones.
Speaker 2: You start thinking about all the what IFFs and what
Speaker 2: could have been and you put yourself in those parents' positions,
Speaker 2: and it's extremely heavy.
Speaker 3: There can be good that comes out of it.
Speaker 2: I know, having covered a lot of this, I would
Speaker 2: go home and be more appreciative of my kids and
Speaker 2: hug them more and tell them I love them. And
Speaker 2: I now never leave the house or leave a phone
Speaker 2: conversation or get on a plane without saying I love
Speaker 2: you because of all the things we cover. But yeah,
Speaker 2: it is heavy, that's hard.
Speaker 1: And again we do recovery runs because we come on
Speaker 1: we want to. We talk about the things that that
Speaker 1: we do like we're conscious of doing, to help us
Speaker 1: calm down, to help us being better physical and mental health.
Speaker 1: This was one we had nothing to do with, but
Speaker 1: it came about and we appreciate it. One for me
Speaker 1: that's always a big deal is music. We talked about
Speaker 1: it this morning, well one day this morning on the
Speaker 1: morning run about Justin Bieber's new album. His new album
Speaker 1: came out and we had it on while we were
Speaker 1: working and it was just too mellow of the Viye.
Speaker 1: This is not a knock against just he was just
Speaker 1: putting out a different type of album. It's a little darker,
Speaker 1: more poignant stuff, and we had to turn off because
Speaker 1: we need music.
Speaker 3: You put Carly Rae Jepson on.
Speaker 1: No, that's all No. I came out from the bathroom
Speaker 1: and we were dancing at the table to that. I
Speaker 1: didn't put that, but we had and we had to
Speaker 1: put an upbeat, a fun playlist on. And music is
Speaker 1: healing everything. It is everything to me. But I fell
Speaker 1: into this thing where I was listening to a lot
Speaker 1: of rap music that had choirs in it. For whatever reason,
Speaker 1: that was my thing. Listen going to church. J Cole Common,
Speaker 1: a boy out of Chicago, Chance the rapper. I don't
Speaker 1: know why I got onto a kick and I had
Speaker 1: a whole playlist going of that music, and it felt
Speaker 1: great to me. So whatever your thing might be, music
Speaker 1: is always something, And probably every week I have a
Speaker 1: new genre or a new thing subgenre of music I
Speaker 1: just fall into. And that was great for me this week.
Speaker 2: When I run next to you, you're going at it
Speaker 2: like it's so cute.
Speaker 3: I think it's so sweet.
Speaker 2: I can hear you even through my music sometimes, especially
Speaker 2: when I'm listening to an audiobook, I can hear you
Speaker 2: singing along and getting all into the music. It's it's
Speaker 2: I love it. I think that's no, that's so sexy.
Speaker 2: It's one of my favorite things about you. I love
Speaker 2: that you just get into it and you're in the moment.
Speaker 2: You're not thinking about what you have to do later
Speaker 2: today or all the stuff we just talked about, all
Speaker 2: the heavy, heavy news. You are in the moment and
Speaker 2: just it's pure joy.
Speaker 3: It sounds embarrassing, No, it's it's it's subtle, but it's cute.
Speaker 2: It's I really really like that. I love how much
Speaker 2: you love music because it does it is transforming. We
Speaker 2: always have music playing music always For me. I have
Speaker 2: really been getting into Gabby Bernstein's new book Self Help.
Speaker 3: It's funny.
Speaker 2: The title says it all, but it really is about
Speaker 2: helping yourself and finding this. It's a very specific way
Speaker 2: of going into why you do what you do, understanding
Speaker 2: why you do it, and then doing better. So when
Speaker 2: I run, especially a longer run, I do love listening
Speaker 2: to my self help books where I'm making my mind
Speaker 2: better along with my body. Everything is getting stronger and
Speaker 2: I feel empowered. It just gives me tools to get
Speaker 2: through the day better.
Speaker 3: And to be a better humane self help.
Speaker 2: Yes, so I've been listening to that on some of
Speaker 2: my long runs, which I appreciate.
Speaker 1: See, I don't know how you do that. I cannot
Speaker 1: listen to. The only thing I can listen to is
Speaker 1: stand up comedy. But I cannot listen to a book
Speaker 1: or a show. When I run, I gotta be going.
Speaker 3: I'm actually now So now our runs are getting longer.
Speaker 2: We're training for the Stockholm Half Marathon at the end
Speaker 2: of August. And when I know I got longer runs on,
Speaker 2: I actually the music.
Speaker 3: Gets it's repetitive.
Speaker 2: I have the same music playing over and over again,
Speaker 2: and it's just I'm not like you. I don't take
Speaker 2: the time to make playlists. I wish I was like
Speaker 2: that you send me. Sometimes I beg you you send
Speaker 2: me a playlist to mix it up a little bit,
Speaker 2: but I actually will get it. I'm gonna find myself
Speaker 2: a good murder mystery because I love like Actually, it
Speaker 2: feels like I'm watching a movie in my mind.
Speaker 3: As I'm running, I.
Speaker 2: Can completely disassociate from the pain, like who Like, After
Speaker 2: a few miles, You're just like, win is this ending?
Speaker 3: So if I'm in a book and I'm really.
Speaker 2: Into the story, I love it. Two hours Yeah, Oh
Speaker 2: I can do a full, like half marathon with a
Speaker 2: audiobook I love.
Speaker 1: And you don't do you not have a long list
Speaker 1: of playlists in your Spotify?
Speaker 3: Not enough? No, it just it's too much. I'm one
Speaker 3: of those it just takes too much time.
Speaker 2: Sometimes I let the DJ do it, or you know,
Speaker 2: like a running mix that that Spotify or AI makes
Speaker 2: for me, and I always hate half the songs.
Speaker 1: See that's I'm very specific. I'm very intentional in my
Speaker 1: playlist and I will make one for whatever mood that day,
Speaker 1: and I name them all all kinds. I'm looking.
Speaker 3: You would have made mixtapes for me back in the day.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I would have them and labeled them. Oh,
Speaker 1: that would have been great my playlist. I'm looking at
Speaker 1: the title. One is called new, one is called under
Speaker 1: the Sea. There's a no vasileine cake by the ocean
Speaker 1: Amen no vasiline.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I didn't want to just let that one
Speaker 3: go by with that explanation.
Speaker 1: Some you know what, this will make sense? You know
Speaker 1: what this is. It's titled that because it includes a
Speaker 1: track from ice Cube, which was a dis track that
Speaker 1: he did back in the early nineties, I think. And
Speaker 1: so the whole playlist is just dis tracks from rappers
Speaker 1: over the years. That's my disk track playlist. See I'm
Speaker 1: very specific. This is why I don't have any issues running.
Speaker 3: But oh my everything to me.
Speaker 1: We talked earlier as well. Something we did. We did
Speaker 1: get out of town with the girls for vacation at
Speaker 1: a beach for a little while in Turks. We could
Speaker 1: say that I think we went Turks. There were a
Speaker 1: particular highlight of Turks for us every time we go.
Speaker 1: We don't have a pet here in New York, but
Speaker 1: we have one in Turks. We love this cat.
Speaker 2: This cat we've named Oreo, but we found out that
Speaker 2: she has multiple names from what.
Speaker 1: Are sam is I think what the.
Speaker 3: Sam Chloe was another name.
Speaker 2: Bread. That's ridiculous, that's a silly She's she's Oreo and
Speaker 2: always will be to us. But we are able to
Speaker 2: go back and she finds us every time, and she
Speaker 2: has really been a huge part of our weeks there,
Speaker 2: and she's she just makes us happy.
Speaker 1: We can't downplay this. This is a I mean, look,
Speaker 1: they say animals all the time, there are the therapy
Speaker 1: animals or whatever, and the hell people take them to
Speaker 1: schools or take them to places where people have had tragedies,
Speaker 1: and animals do this for us and it changes everything.
Speaker 1: I think we took more pictures of that cat than
Speaker 1: we did of ourselves and our kids. We were on
Speaker 1: that trip.
Speaker 3: Qu cheese.
Speaker 2: Look how sweet she is, and she's the friendliest cat.
Speaker 2: Like obviously cats get a bad rap for making you
Speaker 2: come to them. She comes to us. She comes and
Speaker 2: snuggles up next to us, and.
Speaker 3: It's just it just brings you peace. I love it.
Speaker 1: We enjoy the highlight. That Oriole is always a highlight,
Speaker 1: but one of the highlights. And I can say this
Speaker 1: now we're not revealing anything, but there was a point. Look,
Speaker 1: I think everybody knows you're not a huge sports fan.
Speaker 1: You keep up. You love college football. I love college
Speaker 1: love college football. But we're at the spot there in
Speaker 1: Turks and we're hanging out folks and by the pool.
Speaker 1: We were in a cabana kind of a thing, and
Speaker 1: somebody just strolls right by and you can't see them
Speaker 1: that long because we're in a cabana. We have a
Speaker 1: full view. So it goes by and only see him
Speaker 1: for a split second or two. And I tap your daughter, Analise,
Speaker 1: who is a University of Colorado's student, and I said, yo,
Speaker 1: see who that was? She said, no, who was it?
Speaker 1: And it was none other than number one overall NFL
Speaker 1: draft pick and Heisman Trophy winner Travis Hunter. She goes crazy,
Speaker 1: Robot says who she thinks it shador Sanda's just walk Colorado.
Speaker 3: I knew, I knew who that was.
Speaker 1: So it doesn't in there. This was really hilarious to me,
Speaker 1: and maybe we should post this picture like, yeah, we
Speaker 1: did have it. But the girls are in the pool
Speaker 1: in the ocean later just kind of what we're all doing,
Speaker 1: just having your drinks, standing around, just enjoying the water.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we were just cooling off.
Speaker 1: It was hot so I stay on the beach, I
Speaker 1: stay out of the water.
Speaker 3: You're not a beach or not an ocean guy.
Speaker 1: So I'm taking a picture of a robot. She's looking
Speaker 1: back at me. The girls are all kind of around,
Speaker 1: and I have this great shot of someone snorkeling, not
Speaker 1: in our group, just another person snorkeling literally three feet
Speaker 1: maybe from rodes and I'm trying to point, trying to
Speaker 1: get it. Never sees it. They get out of the water. Later,
Speaker 1: I said, Babe, did you see the Heisman Trophy winner
Speaker 1: number one overall draft pick just almost literally swam up
Speaker 1: your butt and you didn't even turn around.
Speaker 3: I had no clue thats who that was. I'm like,
Speaker 3: that's who that was.
Speaker 2: I saw the couple snorkeling, I didn't know it was them.
Speaker 1: See this is funny to me. You know how many
Speaker 1: people in the world want access to this kid, to
Speaker 1: have a moment with him, a picture, a sofie, an autograph,
Speaker 1: a conversation. You were snorkling.
Speaker 2: I was enjoying the surf and the sand in the
Speaker 2: sun with the Heisman winner and didn't even know.
Speaker 1: Oh, we gotta post that picture out.
Speaker 2: That's funny, all right, We will well and oh and
Speaker 2: something else. Oh, this was something that I actually felt
Speaker 2: like was a good moment for me. It's about recovery.
Speaker 2: It's about recognizing your body, recognizing when you're pushing yourself
Speaker 2: too hard. Don't I don't think any runner likes to quit.
Speaker 2: I don't like to quit. But I have to say,
Speaker 2: did I mention how hot it was in Turks? It was, Yeah,
Speaker 2: it never got out of the eighties and high humidity,
Speaker 2: and that's not my jam so much when we're running.
Speaker 3: So we got up.
Speaker 2: I mean we were running at like six forty five
Speaker 2: in the morning, correct, But we had a six miler
Speaker 2: that we had to do for our training run. And
Speaker 2: I was pushing myself. By two miles, I knew I was.
Speaker 2: My face was red, I was feeling hot and dizzy.
Speaker 1: I'll give you this. The entire three miles was going
Speaker 1: in one direction, directly towards the sun with no shade, for.
Speaker 2: It was punishing. So I turned around and you had
Speaker 2: gotten ahead of me, and I said, just go, go go.
Speaker 2: I'm going to be slower. I had to take some
Speaker 2: walking breaks, which I again am not proud of, and
Speaker 2: I finally got to five point three seven miles and
Speaker 2: you had texted me like you were almost back to
Speaker 2: the car, and I just said, babe, I have to
Speaker 2: call it.
Speaker 3: Can you just please come pick me up? Have I
Speaker 3: ever said that to you?
Speaker 1: Well, you rarely have the luxury of having me come
Speaker 1: pick you up.
Speaker 3: Right, we don't have a car. That is so true.
Speaker 2: But I made a decision, and I felt like this
Speaker 2: was actually a smart decision. I felt dizzy, I felt dehydrated,
Speaker 2: I felt overheated, and.
Speaker 3: I thought, what am I trying to prove? Who am
Speaker 3: I trying to prove this to.
Speaker 2: I don't need to run this extra point six three
Speaker 2: miles to say I did the six mile and check
Speaker 2: it off. I can say right now, my body is
Speaker 2: telling me to stop, and that's what I did. And
Speaker 2: I have to tell you I grappled with it, and
Speaker 2: it's embarrassing to me. They want to have to text you.
Speaker 2: I felt weak, I felt and I looked back at
Speaker 2: it and said, no, that was strength, that was me
Speaker 2: being that was me being smart.
Speaker 1: And so it's okay. You give yourself. You got to
Speaker 1: give yourself greates before you do it to anybody else.
Speaker 2: I'll say that to everybody else, but I won't do
Speaker 2: it for myself, and so I actually had to look
Speaker 2: back at it reflectively and say, you know what, I'm
Speaker 2: proud of myself for saying, uncle, I need to stop
Speaker 2: right now, and I did.
Speaker 1: That was an extreme day. And what did I you
Speaker 1: said your word and embarrassing, and what did I say
Speaker 1: to you when I picked you up? You didn't hear
Speaker 1: me say, oh, actually I thought you Yeah, you were great.
Speaker 3: And then and then you had to pull over.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you didn't have to add that extra part.
Speaker 1: We were ending on a high note. That was yes, okay,
Speaker 1: oh yes, fine, we had to pull over.
Speaker 2: She had to up chuck well, and so that was
Speaker 2: also my point, like see, my body was telling me stop.
Speaker 2: So that was like for me, that was confirmation I
Speaker 2: did the right thing. Throwing up told me way to go, Amy,
Speaker 2: you made a good choice. Okay.
Speaker 1: The last thing on the Turks on the Turk trip,
Speaker 1: it's it's a weird one dimension, but it gave us
Speaker 1: so much joy and so much calm. It actually occupied
Speaker 1: so much of our time. But it was the oddest
Speaker 1: thing that you would never really think of.
Speaker 2: But this, to me is a lesson when you're wherever
Speaker 2: you are in the world, but when you're out in nature,
Speaker 2: watch nature.
Speaker 3: It was better.
Speaker 2: We'll tell you what we were doing. It was better
Speaker 2: than any Netflix series. It was better than any like
Speaker 2: Beach Read that I could have had in my hand.
Speaker 2: We ended up poolside watching a show of seagulls. Can
Speaker 2: you explain we were I had not seen this before,
Speaker 2: but there was a line of unending seagulls that were
Speaker 2: managing people who were in the pool. But they were
Speaker 2: coming down one by one and skimming the water and
Speaker 2: trying to drink from the pool, like getting some water
Speaker 2: in their mouths. Some were really adept and good at it,
Speaker 2: and some were terrible at it. We watched one seagull
Speaker 2: make eight attempts and could not get water in his mouth.
Speaker 2: We were laughing so hard. It was like a comedy
Speaker 2: and a drama all in one, provided by nature.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've ever you know, we ended
Speaker 1: up Maybe our minds were in the right mindset to
Speaker 1: where we weren't thinking about work at the time. We're done,
Speaker 1: But that was such an important lesson. I still do things.
Speaker 1: Stop and we say smell the roses, but you miss
Speaker 1: so much that's right in front of you because you're
Speaker 1: looking down on your phone. You're walking down the street
Speaker 1: focused on something else, and maybe the love of your
Speaker 1: life might be walking right by and you didn't even
Speaker 1: lay eyes on her because you're focused on something else.
Speaker 1: That was That day was the highlight of a seven
Speaker 1: day trip when we decided to do nothing. We just
Speaker 1: went me, you and Sabine.
Speaker 3: Was that a book?
Speaker 1: There was no book, There was no music, There was
Speaker 1: no nothing but us laying on beach chairs watching seagulls
Speaker 1: do circles NonStop. You know what. It almost reminds you
Speaker 1: of an airport. They kept circling around, circling around. Then
Speaker 1: they come down and try to land, which was essentially
Speaker 1: get water, which was a precision operation. You're flying, you
Speaker 1: gotta get just low enough to get the water. You
Speaker 1: can't be too high to miss it, but if you
Speaker 1: go too low you might your head.
Speaker 2: It was funny, and we watched these seagulls all take
Speaker 2: different it's so weird, different choices, and it was so funny.
Speaker 3: I couldn't believe.
Speaker 2: But how long did we sit there and watch seagulls
Speaker 2: try to drink water out of a pool.
Speaker 1: This sounds so silly, but it was absolutely a wonderful,
Speaker 1: just separation of the real world, if you will, or
Speaker 1: excuse me, our perceived world, right, all these things we
Speaker 1: think are so important and we're stressed about. We stopped
Speaker 1: stressing and just enjoyed what was in front of us
Speaker 1: for a moment. And ain't that the trick?
Speaker 3: That was the most relaxed I felt. And it continued.
Speaker 2: This year but after that day and we kept laughing
Speaker 2: at ourselves. Did we actually just spend two hours watching seagulls?
Speaker 2: But it was one of my favorite moments of the
Speaker 2: entire trip. And it's a lesson, Like you said, I
Speaker 2: actually believe. I said, if someone took a video of this,
Speaker 2: and you know how people put yulog or whatever up
Speaker 2: on their TV, I would have that video because it
Speaker 2: just made me feel so relaxed and just it's recognizing
Speaker 2: also what we all get hung up on and what
Speaker 2: we worry about. The nature continues, this world goes on,
Speaker 2: and there's so many beautiful things to recognize, and we're
Speaker 2: also distracted.
Speaker 3: It was just such a great lesson.
Speaker 1: I got a weird comparison. They talk about these dopamine
Speaker 1: hits kids get. I'm seeing sabine on TikTok so much
Speaker 1: just looking down trying to scroll through these videos and whatnot,
Speaker 1: and that one's fifteen seconds. Then there's the next one.
Speaker 1: I got my hit all that. You know what, these
Speaker 1: these birds kept a drama going because each one was unique.
Speaker 1: Oh he missed it all, Let's go to the next guy.
Speaker 1: It felt like we were watching some social media video
Speaker 1: that all he got on going to the next one.
Speaker 1: I was kept getting fulfilled, and we kept getting satisfied
Speaker 1: by each one, and each one was different. That was
Speaker 1: our TikTok.
Speaker 3: I was getting excited, like, what's this one gonna do?
Speaker 1: The one guy that did around did eight passes. We
Speaker 1: kept here it comes again.
Speaker 3: He was he was our favorite one, and then he
Speaker 3: never got it. He finally he took.
Speaker 1: Yeah he's a quitter. But folks, whatever it is for you,
Speaker 1: you got to at some point, as tough as things
Speaker 1: have been, it's been a tough week, certainly down in Texas,
Speaker 1: has been a tough week all over the world for
Speaker 1: a lot of people still in war torn areas. But
Speaker 1: you cannot forget, folks, you cannot forget to smile. It's okay.
Speaker 1: People are suffering next door to you, they're suffering across
Speaker 1: the street, down the road, but just you gotta do
Speaker 1: the best you can, and you got It's okay to
Speaker 1: smile and enjoy the best you can.
Speaker 2: Yea.
Speaker 1: We decided to do that at times, and not even
Speaker 1: intentionally sometimes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I love prioritizing recovery and I think with
Speaker 2: honestly this podcast every Saturday morning. It's a reminder to
Speaker 2: me even throughout the week, wait, what am I doing?
Speaker 2: What am I doing to recover? And so we hope
Speaker 2: you all maybe can take that same lesson apply it
Speaker 2: to your lives. But thank you so much for listening
Speaker 2: to this recovery run. I'm maybe robock On behalf of
Speaker 2: my partner TJ.
Speaker 3: Holmes. Please everyone enjoy your weekend.