1 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: This is a freaking lifetime movie. The next time he 2 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 1: deserves an Oscar, he really deserves an Oscar. I'm like, 3 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: am I lose? In my mind? I could believe what 4 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:16,479 Speaker 1: was happening to me. 5 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 2: I'm Andrea Gunning and this is Betrayal, A show about 6 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 2: the people we trust the most and the deceptions that 7 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 2: change everything. Nancy grew up in Boston in the seventies. 8 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 2: She was the youngest of three girls. From birth, she 9 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 2: was deemed a medical miracle. 10 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: When I was born, they told my mother that I'm 11 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: going to die in three days because i have a 12 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: pin hole in my heart and I'm twisted dow. She's like, 13 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: I don't think so she took me home. They toldal, well, 14 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 1: she's gonna have to have open hot surgery by the 15 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: time she's sighed. Didn't, well, she's gonna have to have 16 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: at least by eighteen, and she's gonna die. Didn't. I'm 17 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: fifty five. I've never had open hot surgery. 18 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,479 Speaker 2: Because of her heart condition, her mother kept a close 19 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 2: eye on her. Her activities were restricted. She wasn't even 20 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 2: allowed to go to gym class in school. Family and 21 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 2: teachers babied her, mostly because she was so small. 22 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: I'm only four eleven, and when I was five years well, 23 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: I think I actually have a picture. I looked like 24 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: him too, so everybody treated me like it was the 25 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: baby all the time. 26 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 2: As a kid, Nancy went to the cardiologist every week 27 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 2: for her heart condition. She wasn't scared about it, but 28 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 2: she knew her mom was. 29 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: I even remember being over at her friend's house. We'd 30 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: be playing with their children, and they'd be in the 31 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: kitchen talking, drinking or whatever, and I would hear her 32 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: crying and telling her friend, I'm so afraid that she's 33 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 1: just gonna die on me one day. I never told 34 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: her I heard that never. 35 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 2: She surpassed medical expectations and grew up to be healthy, 36 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 2: but doctors told her she wouldn't be able to have 37 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 2: kids of her own. The entire experience made Nancy and 38 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 2: her mom really close. 39 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 1: I didn't hang out with friends on Saturday night. I 40 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,959 Speaker 1: hang out with my mother because she's just my best friend. 41 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 1: Everybody who loved her because she was just down to earth. 42 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 2: Early on in her life, Nancy saw that her father 43 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 2: was treated differently than her mother. 44 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: Back in the day, my mother and my father used 45 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: to get pulled over a lot and the cause would 46 00:02:55,080 --> 00:03:00,079 Speaker 1: ask my mother, is he hurting you? Because she's white? 47 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 2: Her father was black, and other kids tease Nancy about 48 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 2: having interracial parents. 49 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,519 Speaker 1: It's like, what's wrong with your mother? There's nothing wrong 50 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 1: with my mother. What are you talking about? My mother 51 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 1: never paid attention to it. She said, if you pay attention, 52 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 1: that's given them more energy to do what they're doing. 53 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 2: When Nancy was a teenager, she met a boy in 54 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 2: her neighborhood named Devon. He was always trying to catch 55 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 2: her eye. 56 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: So I'm like, who is this person? And he was 57 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: extremely handsome. 58 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 2: One day, Devon brought her a present. 59 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: So he heard that I love saft served and Elaisi 60 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: with colored Jimmys. From that day on, we were together. 61 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 2: She and Devon became high school sweethearts. 62 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: We were a class couple, of course we were. We 63 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: were together all the time. It was like nothing could 64 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: come between us. 65 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 2: Their plan was to be together forever, and to this day, 66 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 2: Nancy still wishes they could have been, but tragedy derailed 67 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 2: their future. 68 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: I had heard that there was this extremely bad car accident, 69 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: and I was in a school that sat up on 70 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: a hill, so you could see, like the police cause 71 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: and the ambulances and all that. That looks like a 72 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: really bad accident up there. Everybody knew but me. Nobody 73 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 1: wanted to tell me because they were afraid to tell me. 74 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: He was in that car accident. 75 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 2: He was a passenger in the collision and they needed 76 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 2: the jaws of life to pull him out of the car. 77 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: When I found out, the person who told me said 78 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: he was in a car accident and he died. I 79 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: passed out, woke up in the Narses office and I'm like, 80 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 1: I didn't just hear what she said. The nurse said 81 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: he wasn't a carson, but he's not dead. He was 82 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: at a coma for three days. I went every day, 83 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: waited in the room every day, wait in the room, 84 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: talked to him. 85 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 2: She was by his side when he woke up from 86 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 2: the coma. 87 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 1: But when he woke up, it was a different person, 88 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 1: you know. They asked things like when's your birthday, what's 89 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: your name? Who's the president? Things like that. He said 90 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: his name was Robert something and he was born in 91 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: nineteen twenty one. 92 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 2: DeVaughn was never the same. 93 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: After that. He started smoking cigarettes, never spoke, he was 94 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: like completely against it. He started drinking, swearing, and he 95 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: was like mean sometimes, and I'm like, who is this person. 96 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: I'm just like, Okay, it's going to get better. It's 97 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: going to get better. That better. 98 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 2: After his traumatic brain injury, it wasn't the same relationship. 99 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 2: It was a lot for a seventeen year old to 100 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 2: manage emotionally. 101 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: I felt like he died in that. To me, he 102 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: died in that accident. 103 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 2: Nancy made the tough decision to leave Devon and focus 104 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 2: on herself. She started her own life in Boston, working 105 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 2: in the office of a stock brokerage. By her early twenties, 106 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 2: she was living on her own and fully supporting herself. 107 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: At a beautiful condo in my house was fully furnished. 108 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 2: Every day, on her lunch break, Nancy chatted with a 109 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 2: guy who worked outside her building. 110 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: I worked in the financial district. It was always constructing 111 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: going on it the Liverity Mutual building, and you know, 112 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: the construction guys would do the cat calling when the 113 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: girls walked by. But there was this one guy. He 114 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 1: was just when he's having lunch, I'm going to lunch, 115 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 1: he's as lunch. 116 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 2: His name was Marvin, and Marvin became a fixture in 117 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 2: her day life, a friendly face that she felt comfortable with. 118 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: And then he invited me to this club that he 119 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: belonged to. It was like a dance club. It was 120 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: like the Caribbean Cultural Club. 121 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 2: He was Jamaican and Nancy's dad was from Cuba, so 122 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 2: she was interested in Boston's Caribbean community. 123 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: And I was like, all right, and my friends have 124 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: come part of this weekend. I was like, all. 125 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:32,239 Speaker 2: Right, that weekend, as promised, she and her friends stop by. 126 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 2: It was a lively scene with music and dancing. 127 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: So when I went into the club, I was expecting 128 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: to see Marvin and I let him know that I 129 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: did come for his invitation. And I never saw him 130 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: that night at all. 131 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 2: But she hardly noticed because she got distracted by a 132 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 2: guy her age named Seth. 133 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: And he asked me to dance. I've danced to me, 134 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: it's just the dance. I went to sit back down 135 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: with my friends continue hanging out, and he asked me 136 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: to dance again, dance again. 137 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 2: Seth wasn't exactly her type. 138 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: Well then four eleven it is, because everybody's gonna be 139 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: tall it yeah, he's six'. 140 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 2: Three nancy and her friends decided to leave the party 141 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 2: before it got too. 142 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: Late by that, time and the night was ending and 143 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: he comes running out the. Club i'm, like, Oh. 144 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 2: Seth what Did nancy's? Number it was the, nineties so he. 145 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: Had to go to his car to get pen and. 146 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 2: Paper nancy found it. Endearing she thought she was meeting 147 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 2: up with a friend from work and instead ended up 148 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 2: meeting this nice. Guy it felt like. Fate the next, 149 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 2: Day seth. 150 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: Called i'll not. Forget it was A. Sunday it was 151 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: two o'clock in the afternoon and he. Called he said 152 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: he was. Working he was a. Butcher, OH i want 153 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: to come seeing you AFTER i got? Work all, right 154 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:09,079 Speaker 1: where you? LIVE i, SAID i live On REALLY i 155 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: work One. 156 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 2: Wow he worked just a few blocks down from her, 157 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 2: Apartment so they agreed to meet up for. Lunch seth 158 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 2: recently moved To boston From, jamaica so you. 159 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 1: Told me, about you, know living In, jamaica and that 160 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: he was here on a. 161 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 2: Visa she loved His jamaican, accent especially the way he 162 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 2: said her. Name she also liked his easygoing, personality so 163 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 2: she said yes to a second. Date that's where he 164 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 2: really impressed. 165 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: Her he cooked for. Me he actually cooked it at 166 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: his house and brought it to my. House that was, like, 167 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:54,559 Speaker 1: so It's jamaican. Food it was a red, snapper, delicious absolutely. 168 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: Delicious he's an excellent. 169 00:09:56,240 --> 00:10:00,719 Speaker 2: Cook she hadn't had a serious boyfriend Since DeVaughn in high, 170 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 2: school And seth reminded her a bit of. Him he 171 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 2: went out of his way to make her feel, special 172 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 2: just Like DeVaughn. 173 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 1: HAD i always tell people you sweet me off my. 174 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: Feet i'll say the biggest attraction was she was pleasant 175 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: and calm and. Respectful she cheat me like a. Lady 176 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: it was good to, me and everything just seemed like it. 177 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 2: Clicked after they'd been dating for a few, Months seth 178 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 2: Took nancy to meet his. Uncle he was one of 179 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 2: a few people In seth's family who also immigrated To. 180 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 2: Boston When nancy walked through the, door she was, shocked 181 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 2: AND i was, LIKE i know. You it Was, Marvin 182 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 2: nancy's lunch break. Buddy AND i was, like you. 183 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: Do the construction that liberty miles to him, Right he's, like, yeah, 184 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: YEAH i see you when you're going to lunch some. Time. Yeah, 185 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: WELL i, said, wow what a small. 186 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 2: World years, Later nancy would find out it wasn't much 187 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 2: of a. Coincidence at all that, summer she And seth 188 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 2: took their first vacation. 189 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 1: Together we went To New, hampshire ham To. BEACH i 190 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: went every year with friends or, whatever AND i, stated 191 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: they doew hotel every year right across from the, beach 192 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 1: AND i know that's WHERE i conceive my. CHILD i 193 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: know that for a. 194 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 2: Fact nancy had lived her whole life believing she'd never have. 195 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 2: Kids she Told seth she couldn't get. Pregnant when she 196 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 2: found out that she was, expecting it felt like another medical. 197 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 2: Miracle her first call was to her. 198 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: Mom she was, like, yeah you'll have to get married. 199 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: NOW i, said right, now right. 200 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 2: Now it seemed old, fashioned but she trusted her mom 201 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 2: to guide her in the right. 202 00:11:55,760 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: Direction we went to City hall to register for the marriage. 203 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 1: Certificate i'm four months pregnant and the lady gives you the. 204 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: Paper it's split in the middle and your information is 205 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: here and his information is. Here AND i was, like, 206 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: oh they have your birthday. Wrong he's, like, no that's. 207 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 1: RIGHT i, said, no it's. Not he's like it, Is, 208 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: well you can't be twenty six with this data Birth 209 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: he was. 210 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 2: Nineteen he lied about his. Age he was in twenty. 211 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 2: Six like he said he was. Nineteen nancy was twenty 212 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 2: three at the. Time seth gave her a simple. 213 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: Explanation he had to make up that age for me 214 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: to be. Interested because he told me he was, NINETEEN 215 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: i would have definitely not dated, him he, SAID i, 216 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: said you're, right so he lied to be able to date. 217 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: ME i just stood there for a. Minute the place 218 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 1: that you get the married cittific was at the bottom 219 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: floor in the building where there is an echo because 220 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: there is a big square of, balconies AND i screamed 221 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 1: out what and it echoes all over the. Place all 222 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: you saw was people coming over and looking. 223 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 2: Down seth insisted that it wasn't a big. 224 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: Deal he didn't comprehend that it was, wrong like telling 225 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: a child that it's wrong to play in the dirt 226 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: and they look at you like why not like? That you, 227 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: know like what's the. Problem i'm, like you, know what 228 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,719 Speaker 1: what DO i? Do at this, POINT i got a 229 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: imagine to get in one hand and a baby and a. 230 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 2: Belly she decided she was gonna let it. Go she 231 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 2: couldn't change his, age so she signed the. 232 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 1: PAPERS i THINK i was more in love with my 233 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: baby than any. SITUATION i wanted her to have married 234 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: mom and, dad AND i want to everything for, Her 235 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: so that was in my. 236 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:08,959 Speaker 2: HEAD a few weeks, Later nancy And seth had a small. 237 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 2: Wedding the couple set their sights on. Parenthood they got 238 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 2: an adorable apartment on the top floor of a Converted boston, 239 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 2: mansion complete with a castle like. Turret it was. 240 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: Like a, cute, little quaint homoon beginning of life. 241 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 2: Apart nancy wanted the sex of the baby to be a. 242 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: Surprise when she came, out there was a. Girl he 243 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: actually had a frown on his. FACE i, SAID i 244 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: don't care if it was a. Frog all THAT i 245 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: went th were you better be. 246 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 2: Happy set's disappointment quickly. Faded he both fell in love 247 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 2: with their. 248 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: DAUGHTER i was just in the awe of her every. 249 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: Day she was a, wonderful wonderful little. 250 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 2: Girl those first few years of their daughter's life were. 251 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 2: Magical he was an excellent. 252 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: Father he always took care of my, daughter always like 253 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:12,119 Speaker 1: he died for. Her not to, pampers diapered like washing material. 254 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: Diapers he made her baby. Food he's the ONE i 255 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: got up in a. MILAI i didn't change poopy. Diapers 256 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: because he did, that all of. 257 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 2: It he was also excellent To. 258 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: Nancy he did all the, cooking he did all the. 259 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: CLEANING i could tell him until. Time coming home from, 260 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: work he'd have a bath ready for. Me he'd have 261 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: a blast wine for. Me he always cooked. 262 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 2: Dinner and this wasn't a phase for. Him year after, 263 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 2: Year seth showed up for their family and their. Marriage 264 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 2: she And seth were a. 265 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: Team we worked together in the house without, effort not Like, 266 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: okay you're gonna do this And i'm Gonna we just 267 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: did it like you and my mother used to, say 268 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: you guys just do things. 269 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 2: Effortlessly years into their, marriage they were still very much in. 270 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: Love the romance was still. There as far As i'm, 271 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: concerned that didn't change at. 272 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 2: All even a neighbor commented on how physically close they. 273 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: Seemed she was, like every TIME i see you, guys 274 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: just so. Close she was, like he's mowing the lawn 275 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: and you're right next to. Him i'm like picking. Weeds 276 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: but we. Were we were always close together like. That. 277 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 2: Always at the, Time nancy worked at a, BANK. 278 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: I had a computer to take home just in case 279 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: it was implement. 280 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 2: Weather nancy was the only one in their house who 281 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 2: used the, computer. 282 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: AND i had told them this is just my work 283 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: computer ONLY i can go on all. Right everybody knew 284 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: THAT i was. Good one DAY i went on the 285 00:16:56,480 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: computer and a dating website promped. Up it was called 286 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 1: adultfinder dot. Com i'll never forget it. Now the username was, 287 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: there but the password was. 288 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 2: There the username Was Peter. Parker five years into their, 289 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 2: Marriage nancy found a strange dating website on her work 290 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 2: computer with a username she didn't. Recognize i'm Like Peter. 291 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: Poka So i'm, like somebody dront my computer and put 292 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 1: their name on The i'm Thinking Peter paka's a, person 293 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: And i'm, Like, seth what is did you see? That 294 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 1: he was, like, oh those things like pop? Ups And i'm, 295 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,199 Speaker 1: like oh my. God let me call my company and 296 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: let them. KNOW i did not go on that. Website 297 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: and they took it at a space. Value they didn't 298 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: dig into it or nothing like. 299 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:03,719 Speaker 2: That nancy didn't, Either, besides her focus was on their, 300 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:05,479 Speaker 2: daughter who just started. 301 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 1: SCHOOL i went to every at the school program and every, 302 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: play AND i was always by myself because he was. 303 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 2: Working he had taken a demanding job at The Metro 304 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 2: Rail he often worked overtime hours to make extra. Money 305 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 2: they were only in their, thirties but they were already 306 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 2: planning for an early, retirement. 307 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 1: And we always talked about retiring In. JAMAICA i have 308 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 1: a house there up in the hills where finally had a. 309 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: House it's beautiful up, there the air and everything is. 310 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: Different we had a book and everything that we wrote 311 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: In what We, Want What we're going To. 312 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 2: Do a book where they wrote down their dreams for the. 313 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 2: Future in order to make those dreams, Happen nancy And 314 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 2: seth worked long. Hours the only day they both had 315 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 2: off Was. Sunday that day was reserved for. 316 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 1: Family when she got, older like, ten we would go 317 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 1: to the. MALL i would go one way and they 318 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 1: would go another because they'd go into the video game 319 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: store And i'm In macy's Or jazia or. Something and 320 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: we had walkie. Talkies we had lacky. Talkies it was. 321 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: Cute they had a lot of fun with. 322 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 2: Her One, Sunday nancy was looking forward to their family, 323 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 2: time But seth took an overtime. 324 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 1: Shift. WELL i called him at work for, SOMETHING i 325 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: can't remember what it, was and he, said he's not. 326 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: Here i'm, like, oh did he go to the? Bathroom you, know, 327 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: no he's. Not today's to, say, oh but he's not 328 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 1: doing overtime. Today, No so when he got home at, 329 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 1: midnight when he normally gets, home he comes in the. 330 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: DOOR i didn't mention to him THAT i knew he 331 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 1: wasn't at. WORK i, said, oh ya home a little 332 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: bit later, Then, NO i was, LIKE i know they 333 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 1: ain't no traffic at the. Summon you? 334 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 2: Okay he said he stayed late to talk to a 335 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 2: coworker who was having a releaselationship. 336 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: Problem he was, like we would talking a long time 337 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,239 Speaker 1: because he was telling me that he cheated on his 338 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 1: girlfriend and she found, out and that's why we was. 339 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: Talking he needed somebody to talk. TO i was, Like, 340 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 1: wow a woman always finds out when you're doing a 341 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: duct comes a, light don't. 342 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 2: Forget she knew she'd Caught seth in a. Lie he 343 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 2: hadn't been at work that day at, all and he 344 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 2: certainly hadn't been comforting a, Coworker so where was? He 345 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 2: instead of asking him, directly she decided to wait and 346 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 2: see what else you can find. Out, plus she wasn't 347 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 2: ready to accuse him of. 348 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: Anything once you put it out there that you don't trust, 349 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: them your full relationship. Changes you can't really ruin even 350 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 1: like a. Friendship say you AND, i if we're. Friends 351 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: in my pocketbook is. MISSING i put it in the wrong. 352 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: Place but Now i'm, like did you take my? Pocketbook 353 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: our friendship is. Over it's. Over you just have to 354 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: be careful with stuff like, that you. Know SO i 355 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: was kind of stuck UNTIL i could get something, tangible. 356 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 2: And soon she would get something tangible or maybe. Metaphysical 357 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 2: nancy was in bed late one night and out of 358 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 2: their bedroom window she could See seth standing outside their house. 359 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 1: AND i saw a figure next to. Him AND i 360 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,439 Speaker 1: was half asleep and halfway AND i stop back to. 361 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 1: See AND i talked to him the next day AND i, 362 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: said were you okay last? Night did anything different? Happen he, goes, 363 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,199 Speaker 1: YEAH i almost got into a car. Accident we were 364 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: the only two cars in the. ROAD i almost got 365 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: a car. Accident AND i was, LIKE i figured something was. 366 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: Wrong he said? Why AND i told him the story 367 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: HOW i saw the. FIGURE i, said that was a 368 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 1: guardian angel that. 369 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 2: Scene after, That seth was. Spooked he knew she'd seen 370 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 2: something And nancy knew that the figure next to him 371 00:21:58,359 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 2: was no guardian. 372 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 1: Angel after, that you can tell he was so nervous 373 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:04,159 Speaker 1: to do. 374 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 2: Anything she wasn't about to start spying on, him so she, 375 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 2: Waited i'm. 376 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,239 Speaker 1: Not checking your pockets and your cell phone records and 377 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: finding a way going and following you leave. Go i'm 378 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 1: not doing. That i'm not checking o man like. That 379 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: i'm not time for. 380 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:23,719 Speaker 2: That but she kept setting traps in their conversations just 381 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 2: to see how he would. 382 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: React AND i told HIM i kept having a reoccurring 383 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: dream of him being for somebody. 384 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 2: Else christmas was coming, up and that Year seth went all. 385 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 1: Out every year we always said we would buy each 386 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: other just one gift and we'd splurge everything else on our. 387 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 1: Daughter and we did that for the longest. Time, well 388 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: This CHRISTMAS i got it was a iPod at the, 389 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: time don't see, anyone and he got it engraved him 390 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,479 Speaker 1: back with the whole PARAGRAPH i love, YOU i love 391 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: you TODAY i. Die i'm, like oh, WOW i got 392 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 1: The nikes with the predominter that was inside the. SHOE i, 393 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 1: mean he gave me so many and it was expensive, 394 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: gifts And i'm, like why'd you buy me so. Much he's, 395 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: LIKE i just wanted. To i'm like. 396 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 2: Okay As Christmas day went, on she noticed That seth 397 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 2: was acting. Strange he was. 398 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 1: So, quiet like he's a quiet person, anyway BUT i mean. 399 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: Nothing after we did the gifts were one in my 400 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: mother's house In. Boston not a word driving, there not 401 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: a word during, dinner not a word coming back. Home 402 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: AND i was, like what's wrong with? You are you? 403 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 1: Are you're? Sick what's? Wrong he's like. NOTHING i was, 404 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 1: like something's, wrong what's the? Matter? Nothing. Okay we went 405 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 1: to bed to my god IF i, SAID i can't 406 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: take it. Anymore something is? Wrong what is wrong with? 407 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 1: You he jumps out of the bed and he gets 408 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: on his knees like he's going to, pray and closes 409 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: his eyes and, SAID i got another woman. 410 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 2: Pregnant there it was the confession she'd been waiting, for 411 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 2: but it was much bigger than she could have. Imagined 412 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 2: the revelation was so overwhelming she passed. 413 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 1: Out it was like somebody like boom right in my. 414 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: CHEST i finally came to AND i just, said, WELL 415 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 1: i guess you just have to. Go he, said just like, 416 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 1: That he, said, yeah just like, that because you're not 417 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: even gonna try to fight for. ME i, said how 418 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: CAN i fight for SOMETHING i already? LOST i, said 419 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: you can come get your stuff. Later for, now you 420 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: have to, go like right, now because if you, DON'T 421 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 1: i really don't think you're worth going to jail. For 422 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 1: SO i really think you. Should like. 423 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 2: Right after he, Left nancy called her. Mom it was three, 424 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 2: am but of course her mom still picked, up and she's. 425 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: LIKE i. CAN'T i really can't believe this because you 426 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: would have never known. That and she loved them to. 427 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:17,239 Speaker 1: Death she, said he deserves an. Oscar he really deserves an. 428 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 2: Oscar the next, Morning seth was at their front. Door 429 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 2: he needed to pack a, bag. 430 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: And that's WHEN i, asked how long have you been seeing? 431 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 1: Her he admitted to four, years BECAUSE i know you. 432 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: KNEW i was, like how when you told me about 433 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 1: That Ardian? ANGEL i knew you. 434 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 2: Knew Then nancy figured that the dating website she'd seen 435 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 2: years earlier was connected to this, affair AND. 436 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: I, said and who the hell Is Peter? Walker he, 437 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: said it's nine of, me LIKE i was supposed to. 438 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: KNOW i was, like what he, said that's its real? 439 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 1: NAME i, said so what does that have to do with? 440 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 1: You because you're not a damn side of. Man that's 441 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: my favorite. Chapta, Okay Si. 442 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 2: Seth had been weaving a web of lies for their entire, 443 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 2: marriage And nancy was just starting to unravel. It she 444 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 2: told him to expect divorce papers On. Monday he, said 445 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 2: you're divorcing. 446 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: ME i, said, dude you're not getting. IT i told 447 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: you got to. Go would you THINK i just wanted to, 448 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,120 Speaker 1: go spend a night somewhere and just come back. Home. 449 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: No done. 450 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 2: With that, conversation their marriage was. Over they'd been together 451 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:40,199 Speaker 2: for fifteen. Years nancy thought she'd heard the worst of, 452 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 2: it but she'd soon realize his deception was far bigger 453 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 2: than an. 454 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: AFFAIR, ki you eventually told me the whole, story AND i, 455 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,919 Speaker 1: said why? Me he, said as my uncle was, saying 456 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 1: why not. 457 00:26:55,480 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 2: You nancy's fifteen year marriage was blown apart when her 458 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 2: husband confessed to getting another woman. Pregnant but that wasn't 459 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 2: the whole. Story the real story started Before seth And 460 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 2: nancy even. Met here's What seth. 461 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: Confessed he, goes, WELL i came To america with a. 462 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: VISA i was only supposed to stay for six, MONTHS 463 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: i started a job AND i DECIDED i wanted to. 464 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: Stay and he, Said marvin told him that you have 465 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: to get your green, card and to get that he 466 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: would have to get. Married AND i, said oh. Okay he, 467 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: goes well it was. YOU i, said it was, me 468 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 1: LIKE i was. Chosen he said, Yeah so our relationship 469 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: was set up from the, beginning AND i had no. 470 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 2: Idea the Night nancy first Met seth at The Caribbean, 471 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 2: club that wasn't. Fate it was. Orchestrated she'd been singled 472 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 2: out By seth's, Uncle, marvin you, know the guy from, 473 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 2: work and he Invited nancy there for a. 474 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: Purpose his uncle had his eye on me and invited 475 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,360 Speaker 1: me to the. Club WHEN i came, To buddy made 476 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 1: sure his nephew was, there made sure his nephew danced. 477 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 2: Me she felt lucky Meeting seth at the, Club but 478 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 2: it turns out it was all planned for one. 479 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: Goal he told me his uncle was she looks like 480 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: she has. Money he's the ONE i put us together 481 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: with this crappy green. 482 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 2: Cot When nancy got, pregnant she Knew seth was still 483 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 2: on his. 484 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: Visa he, GOES i have to go back And i'm, like, oh, 485 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: NO i need you have a. Baby SO i, said 486 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: we can't get married things BECAUSE i don't. Know he 487 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: goes yet we, can but that changes. EVERYTHING i just 488 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: have to go and make it right at the immigration 489 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: office with the certificate called a green. 490 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 2: Car she was having a baby and was scared to 491 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 2: lose Set so back, Then nancy had jumped into. 492 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: ACTION i was, like, okay so what do we need to. 493 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: Do he was, like, well it's easier and faster if 494 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: we have a. Lawyer AND i said. Okay SO i 495 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: spent ten thousand dollars of my own money to get the. 496 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 2: Lawyer nancy saw the green card as another piece of 497 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 2: paperwork they needed to get. Married she had no idea 498 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 2: she was part of an elaborate. 499 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: SCHEME i definitely feel LIKE i was singled. Out fortunately for, 500 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: them it worked out And seth got his green. Car 501 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: marvin was the mastermind of the whole. 502 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 2: Thing and to add insult to, Injury seth had another 503 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 2: reason why he Chose, nancy, because. 504 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: Well you told me you couldn't have any children that 505 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: fit into the, plan THAT i wouldn't have to have 506 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 1: any connection with. YOU i, said, wow you guys are. 507 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: Evil that is. 508 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 2: Evil this revelation made her feel as if her whole 509 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 2: relationship was, manufactured that she had been. 510 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: USED i was just a pawn in the little. 511 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 2: Game every day of their, marriage he welcomed her home 512 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 2: with a glass of wine and a home cooked. Meal 513 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 2: nobody had ever shown her love like this. Before If 514 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 2: nancy was just a means to an, end why Did 515 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 2: zeth father staying with her for fifteen? Years, Well nancy 516 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 2: asked him that, directly. 517 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 1: AND i, said, okay, well we were married for fifteen, 518 00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: years SO i don't. Understand he, said, WELL i. Know 519 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: i'm going to help BECAUSE i had to stay married 520 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 1: to you a little bit longer because my girlfriend In 521 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: jamaica wanted to come, here and for me to be 522 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: able to bring her, HERE i had to show THAT 523 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: i was economically fit to be able to bring her. 524 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 2: Here nancy had assumed the affair was From seth's online 525 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 2: dalliances As Peter, parker but it turns out he'd been 526 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 2: with the other woman for their entire. Marriage he knew 527 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 2: her In. 528 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: JAMAICA i don't know if it was since they were 529 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 1: kids or all their. Life i'm not, sure but he 530 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 1: brought her here From. 531 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 2: Jamaica seth finally confessed his double life To nancy because 532 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 2: he was just in too. Deep it turns out the 533 00:31:55,760 --> 00:32:00,040 Speaker 2: pregnancy he Told nancy about wasn't the first. One we 534 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 2: had a whole other, family. 535 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: He told me that, day because she was pregnant, again 536 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: so there were. Four she was pregnant with the. Fifth 537 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 1: at that, point he couldn't take it, anymore like do 538 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: what he was doing financially with me and our. Daughter 539 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 1: he said he had come to a point where it 540 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 1: was just becoming too. 541 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 2: Much all those years set claimed to be working over, 542 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 2: time he was actually going over to his other house 543 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 2: to his other. Children it Shattered nancy's. 544 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: Reality they felt LIKE i was living the life of 545 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: The Truman. Show AND i still feel that. WAY i 546 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 1: don't know what was real or. NOT i feel, like 547 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: oh to cry BECAUSE i feel so. Stupid everything was? 548 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: Fake who WAS i living? With are the walls? Real 549 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: AM i going to push them? Down and we're in 550 00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: a television? Program what is? 551 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 2: This their daughter was fourteen at the, time And nancy 552 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 2: wanted to protect her from the reality of her father's. 553 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 2: Dishonesty she tried to maintain a sense of stability for 554 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 2: her and her. Daughter she moved to a new place 555 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 2: while they figured out the, divorce divided their, assets and 556 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 2: split up shared. 557 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: LIVES i had moved to a smaller. TOWNHOUSE i was 558 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 1: going back and forth to the home that we owned, 559 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 1: together except THAT i BECAUSE i had to figure out 560 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 1: WHAT i was bringing to my new. 561 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 2: Home they were waiting to put the house on the 562 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 2: market until the divorce was. Final in the, meantime clearing 563 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 2: out the old house was a constant. 564 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 1: Chore and one DAY i went during the day AND 565 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: i went to open the door with my, key but 566 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 1: someone on the other side of the door opened it for. 567 00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: Me someone's in my, house skid the living crafts out of. 568 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 1: Me i'm, like who are? You he's, like who are? 569 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,799 Speaker 1: You i'm, like this is my. 570 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 2: House Seth short sold their house without Telling. Nancy the 571 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 2: person who'd opened the door was the new. OWNER i was. 572 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 1: Only on the ded and off the, mortgage SO i 573 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 1: GUESS i didn't need to be there for the sale 574 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 1: of the. 575 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 2: Home since it was a short. Sale there wasn't even 576 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 2: a profit to divide in their, divorce even though she'd 577 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 2: paid half the mortgage for a. Decade it felt like 578 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 2: a slap in the. Face she couldn't move out on 579 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 2: her own. Terms but to make matters, worse some of 580 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 2: her most prized possessions were still sold with the house 581 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 2: and she would never see them. 582 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 1: Again my diaries and my ledgers THAT i been writing 583 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:57,840 Speaker 1: in SINCE i was twelve. Thirteen up until that, POINT 584 00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 1: i had like a memory box THAT i got MY 585 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: i bought his baby shoes in. It it had hairbows 586 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 1: of her, something little things that like memory, stuff ornaments 587 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: that meant some you, know, babies First, christmas things like. 588 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: That all of that was, gone and it was just. 589 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 2: Devastating after they, Separated seth wasted no time stepping into 590 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 2: his new. Life after, all he'd been building it for some. 591 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 1: Time he has this whole other new family to go, 592 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,320 Speaker 1: to as if he didn't have to skip a beat 593 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 1: While i'm scratching and scrounging to try to move and 594 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 1: find out WHERE i can live best for me and my, 595 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,760 Speaker 1: daughter and it just didn't seem. 596 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 2: Fair nancy was left to pick up the. Pieces it 597 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 2: all took an intense. 598 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 1: TOLL i don't remember three years of. That after the, 599 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 1: DOORS i was like in a BOG i don't know 600 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 1: any other way to explain. It AND i told my, 601 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 1: MOTHER i lost like two or three years of my. 602 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 1: LIFE i wouldn't even know what happened in between that 603 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 1: BECAUSE i was just. 604 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 2: Going her daughter got her through those difficult, ears. 605 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 1: And she was always my. Priority. Always you kind of 606 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 1: feel ashamed BECAUSE i started thinking to, myself how stupid 607 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 1: COULD i. 608 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 2: Be nancy is a, survivor even. 609 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:36,879 Speaker 1: THOUGH i was considered ill with THE tusi vow hont. 610 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 1: MURMUR i was born a. 611 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:44,320 Speaker 2: Warrior it took years to recover emotionally and feel like herself, 612 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 2: again and, now fifteen years post, divorce she's proud of 613 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 2: how far she's, come. 614 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 1: And after time went, ON i can talk about this without, 615 00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,919 Speaker 1: crying without being upset like he doesn't deserve my. Team 616 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 1: that's not my. FAULT i did, survive AND i feel 617 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 1: stronger now THAN i did. Before the resilience in. Me 618 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:14,879 Speaker 1: nobody can take that from. 619 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 2: Me we end all of our episodes with the same, 620 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 2: question why do you want to tell your? 621 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 1: Story it is my story AND i want to tell. 622 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 1: It maybe somebody's in it right, Now and Then i'm 623 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:37,840 Speaker 1: thinking about it because this happens too much and it's somebody's. 624 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:44,240 Speaker 1: Life you, KNOW i have a lot to give from 625 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:49,760 Speaker 1: that parted they can turn into a good thing. 626 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:58,279 Speaker 2: On the next episode Of, betrayal AND i said to 627 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 2: him on those last few days AS i was holding 628 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 2: his hand in the, HOSPITAL i was just, like, man 629 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 2: you've got to go up. 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