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Speaker 2: We're everywhere, man.

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Speaker 1: But you know where we are right now on the show.

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Speaker 1: It's time to say, what's up with that?

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Speaker 2: Dude?

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Speaker 1: Well, I went to a diversity in Aquatics event. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: my boy Darren Matthews hit me up, invited me out

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Speaker 1: and it was a beautiful event and it's exactly what

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Speaker 1: you expect, diversity in aquatics. Why is that dear to

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Speaker 1: my heart? Because the number one cause of infant death

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Speaker 2: Now, they're all.

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Speaker 1: Kinds of reasons, resources, access, etc. But also cultural reasons

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Speaker 1: in the mindset of black people, in the stereotype of

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Speaker 1: just don't want to swim. Whatever that may look like,

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Speaker 1: are actually terrified of the water. They've done studies on

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Speaker 1: that as well or as lazy and simple as I

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Speaker 1: don't want to mess my hair up. And I get it,

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Speaker 1: I get it, girl, trust me. I got sister and

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Speaker 1: a wife. But this was just to promote, you know,

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Speaker 1: all types of people, all different backgrounds, and that's what

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Speaker 1: we need because swimming is not just a physical activity,

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Speaker 1: it's a life saving skill. It's not just the physical activity.

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Speaker 1: It's a life saving skill, y'all. And people can survive

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Speaker 1: some crazy moments in the water. Whether we've seen drownings

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Speaker 1: And no matter how you guys approached this, there is

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Speaker 1: then you don't have just a second, you have time.

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Speaker 1: You have a kid that can actually save themselves. And

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Speaker 1: so My kids all know how to swim. They all

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Speaker 1: know how to float for like fifteen minutes. But more importantly,

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Speaker 1: of like the whole mindset. Every gun you see is

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Speaker 1: It's the same thing every time I see water, I

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Speaker 2: My dad can't swim.

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Speaker 1: But whatever happens if he fell in, and he did

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Speaker 1: So watch me. Had my chain on, which was made

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Speaker 1: My sunglasses in my little tight curl fro you know,

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Speaker 2: You already know all them damn people.

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Speaker 1: So it was a good time man to see everybody

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Speaker 1: up being that element, all right. Speaking of living it up,

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Speaker 1: trying to be himself, embracing who he is. But at

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Speaker 1: the same time, he says his dreadlocks and his fashion

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Speaker 2: So we know him for the big old of doors

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Speaker 1: If you see Cam Newton, now I've seen Cam Newton

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Speaker 1: Cam Newton is still Cam Newton. Like that isn't that's

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Speaker 1: a star. I don't know what y'all talking about. Tremendous career. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: even though his style of play obviously may undermine that,

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Speaker 2: Reasons, right, and that's kind of amazing.

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Speaker 1: So he had an interview with Josina Anderson and The Homie,

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Speaker 2: Duh, ain't no dude drawing that up? Bruh, ain't nobody

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Speaker 2: over the eight bruh. You know what you need to do.

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Speaker 1: You need to tighten it around the thigh though, right

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Speaker 1: woman's thing, it's a man's well, except when it comes

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Speaker 1: to cams getting dressed. It's not a man's world. So

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Speaker 1: then he was asked by Joe Cina if his current

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Speaker 1: hairstyle has kept him out of an NFL job. That's funny,

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Speaker 1: Like to ask that question, you already know that answer,

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Speaker 1: Like do you think that you having your hair and

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Speaker 1: all these big macaronis coming out of it has any

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Speaker 1: not gonna change quote. But yeah, people have hinted like Cam,

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Speaker 2: But that was a different me.

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Speaker 1: Right now, where I'm at, it's about embracing who I am.

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Speaker 1: Cam is embracing who he is, all right. So then

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Speaker 2: Oh, she going in. She already knew the first answer. Dug.

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Speaker 2: She's like, let's go there.

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Speaker 1: There were hints towards it, he said. And the thing

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Speaker 1: that is always mentioned is Camp, You've scared people the

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Speaker 2: We know who he is.

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Speaker 1: Cam Newton last played for twenty twenty one Carolina Panthers,

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Speaker 1: and he's now currently still a free agent. And in

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Speaker 1: but so far still unemployed. Damn, that's how it goes.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about this because I had to deal with

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Speaker 1: Our agent, Brad Blank, brought us in and during that

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Speaker 1: He played tight end, played for the Falcons, maybe some

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Speaker 1: But he had dreads and I remember him kept talking

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Speaker 1: about he kept talking about cutting his dreads for the combine.

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Speaker 2: I was like why.

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Speaker 1: He was like, cuz, man, it's just it's not clean cut.

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Speaker 1: They're not gonna respect me the same. They're not gonna

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Speaker 1: look at me the same. I was like, damn, And

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Speaker 1: or an old school guy or somebody who's uper conservative.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, whatever, the stereotype or whatever. The actual

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Speaker 1: Tom Coughlin, like right, magic Because Tom Coughlin used to

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Speaker 1: what I hate when it's not that damn simple, Like

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Speaker 1: and the issues and perception than in reality. Like what

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Speaker 1: Let's go and I'm like, these guys should hug me too.

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Speaker 1: Who I recognize is who I recognize? Oohs Howard getting

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Speaker 1: shock Okay, I mean what am I? I grew up

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Speaker 1: Sometimes you go up there to buy, you know, get

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Speaker 1: who I am. Right, I've seen it a thousand times

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Speaker 2: Like, who's that? Why are you taking pictures for them?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Okay, let me google them like they don't know

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Speaker 1: Howard Stern, get off that horse, that high horse right there. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So let's go back to what he said. He said,

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Speaker 1: who comes up to me sometimes the referees want want wow,

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Speaker 1: White referees and black like hey, Howard, Hey, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: he ain't that silly, He ain't that ignorant, Howard Stern. No,

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Speaker 1: damn well, them referees older than them players stupid. They

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Speaker 1: and you talking about they recognize you. Yeah, because Howard Stern.

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Speaker 1: Now you know the whole there's too much content. Shock

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Speaker 2: You hear the name? You like?

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Speaker 1: Oh but these kids don't know who we know. And

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Speaker 1: I don't know who these kids know. Somebody went on

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Speaker 1: guard this was crazy and I don't know her name.

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Speaker 2: Right, that's the point. How are sarting? You know that?

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Speaker 1: Don't get he said, I just get upset. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: that's all. Now that's the funny part. He's basically like, look,

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Speaker 2: I'm this white guy with afro, Like that's it.

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Speaker 1: I want it to be like, no, because you ain't popular,

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Speaker 1: So he kind of buttoned it up and I think

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, Howard stopped playing man, ain't

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Speaker 1: nobody tripping on you. Ain't nobody tripping on none of us.

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Speaker 1: That's the beautiful thing. Like I think Lebron, now Steph Curry.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you could ever go anywhere and be like, no,

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Speaker 1: look that ain't Lebron right shack, Like there's a list

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Speaker 1: of people Howard Stern, you're not on that list. It's

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Speaker 1: my point, even though your wallet in your pockets may

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Speaker 1: Paul Pierce says players caring too much about their brand

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Speaker 1: has affected competitiveness. Competitiveness huh, let's see this. I don't

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Speaker 1: know about this on Pplet's hear I truly believe that

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Speaker 1: Like James Harden has made a billion between Adidas and

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Speaker 1: Far as partnering with other players, you know, getting with

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Speaker 2: And I saw this when I was leaving the league. Yes,

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Speaker 2: it's called the evolution. You know.

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Speaker 1: They stand on your shoulders to see more, to see higher,

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Speaker 1: to see farther right, And it was like, guys, was like,

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Speaker 1: I'm a brand, and I was like, you know, the

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Speaker 1: competitive it's about who you is and you're trying to

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Speaker 1: capitalize on that other than basketball. You hear players say

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Speaker 1: they're more than a basketball player and he's.

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Speaker 2: Like, you know, I'm hoop. That is Paul I'll worry

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Speaker 2: about the other shit later. Oh man, oh man.

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Speaker 1: This is interesting because I got to disagree with Paul

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Speaker 1: in this one, and he got disagree DeMarcus Cousins disagree

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Speaker 1: with him in this one as well.

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Speaker 2: So one.

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Speaker 1: Why the other shit can happen later? Let me tell

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Speaker 1: you what focus is. Focus is not just putting one

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Speaker 1: dot on the wall and staring at it all I

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Speaker 1: am is bowski ball. Focus is having a million dots

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Speaker 1: on the wall and knowing which one to prioritize, which

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Speaker 1: one is to approach and attack in order, in sequence, right,

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Speaker 1: based on what you can get and reward, and based

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Speaker 1: on what it is and risk. Right, That's what focus is.

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Speaker 1: But focus used to be old.

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Speaker 2: School in a basketball player.

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Speaker 1: Now you could be more than basketball because we understand

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Speaker 1: they're twenty four hours in the day for everybody. The

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Speaker 1: most success and the laziest, right, all have the same

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Speaker 1: bank account of time. That bank account of time is

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Speaker 1: twenty four hours, right, don't waste it, don't spend it recklessly.

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Speaker 1: So Paul Pierce learned this when he was leaving, that

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Speaker 1: these guys are coming in with more on their plate.

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Speaker 2: And good for those guys. Why because one you can

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Speaker 2: balance it all. You don't believe me.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, competitiveness is locked into just singular focus. Really,

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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan anybody, Line one, Lebron James, anybody, line two.

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Speaker 2: They were certainly.

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Speaker 1: Guys who had more on their plate than just basketball. Now,

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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan had obviously the Jordan brand. That wasn't Jordan

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Speaker 1: brand at that time, but the Jordan's He had all

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Speaker 1: of that and all the responsibilities that came with it.

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Speaker 1: Also had some very very recorded histories and things done

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Speaker 1: in casinos and then around town and hanging and let's

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Speaker 1: just say Michael Jordan found time to do other things. Now,

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Speaker 1: were they all brand conscious? Maybe not, But he already

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Speaker 1: had the biggest brand in sports, Jordan's. So maybe he

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Speaker 1: said I got that handle, but that's something on his

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Speaker 1: plate more than just basketball.

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Speaker 2: And I wonder was he competitive? Hell yeah, I wonder

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Speaker 2: if Lebron's competitive? Hell yeah.

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Speaker 1: You may say he's a notch off Jordan, but that's

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Speaker 1: probably based on your sensibilities, that's based on your likability,

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Speaker 1: that's not based on Lebron ain't competing. The dude, it's

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Speaker 1: still looking like he in his prime, he thirty eight.

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Speaker 1: It's insane and trust me, spring heel and uninterrupted and

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Speaker 1: whatever else he got going to school goodness and still

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Speaker 1: one of the best players active, one of the best,

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Speaker 1: and could go down as to go. Come on, y'all,

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Speaker 1: let's not do that. So you look at it from

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Speaker 1: that perspective, you start to realize, Hey, Paul, it's okay,

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Speaker 1: I robbed like we got sold a bill of goods

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Speaker 1: based on where we were in our circumstances, where we

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Speaker 1: were in our thinking, where we were in our evolution.

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Speaker 1: The game as well give it to you like this.

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Speaker 1: When I was growing up, they never ever called my

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Speaker 1: stomach anything but stomach right. We used to do drills

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Speaker 1: called six inches. You lift your legs up and be

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Speaker 1: to be, to be, to be, to be, to be,

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Speaker 1: and coat like, beat your stomach, beat your stomach, beach

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Speaker 1: your stomach right, and then that turned into abs. Okay,

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Speaker 1: we cat somewhere, and then that turned into core. Same

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Speaker 1: area though, right.

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Speaker 2: Beat it, beat it, beat it, beat to beat it.

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Speaker 1: Now you go to training session, let's do our core exercises,

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Speaker 1: but before same exercise, let's do your stomach exercises. Stomach really,

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Speaker 1: So my point is, man, the game keeps going and

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Speaker 1: it keeps growing. And that's not just in economics, that's

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Speaker 1: not just in talent, that's also in mentality, that's also

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Speaker 1: in psyche. All parts of this game is supposed to

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Speaker 1: be enhanced, and people like us who played it before,

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Speaker 1: especially living legends like Paul Pierce, need to embrace that.

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Speaker 1: So I think this was the moment where I know

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Speaker 1: what Paul was saying, like it just looks like so

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Speaker 1: many of these guys are getting afforded so many opportunities

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Speaker 1: they don't even care enough about basketball.

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Speaker 2: But that's an impossible measurement.

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Speaker 1: Because we already proved two of the greatest, the two

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Speaker 1: greatest ever.

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Speaker 2: We're very brand conscious.

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Speaker 1: And more importantly, there are guys out there still that

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Speaker 1: are brand conscious that are amazing. And of course, like anything,

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Speaker 1: there's gonna be some brand conscious guys who are suspect,

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Speaker 1: but that's not for me to measure, and that's certainly

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Speaker 1: not for anybody to take issue with or to hate on. All.

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Speaker 2: Right, y'all that to do it.

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