1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: There was this pilot's study going on inside the company 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: I was working at, and they wanted five volunteers to 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 1: try on a continuous glucose monitor. I don't have diabetes, 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 1: nobody in my family has diabetes. But I raised my 5 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 1: hand because something inside me was telling me this is 6 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: going to teach me a lot. Jessie and chose Bay 7 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: Glucose Goddess is a French biochemist and author who science 8 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: backed glucose hacks have helped over three million people. 9 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 2: And she's on a mission to turn science into easy 10 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 2: tips for improving your physical and mental health. 11 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: Having these spikes and these drops all day is the 12 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: activation of the craving center in your brain and it tells. 13 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 2: You ready, find a cookie. 14 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: Find a cookie. 15 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have that voice in my head. 16 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: We can reduce the glucose spike of that meal by 17 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: up to seventy five percent. And saying with without changing 18 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: the meal, we eat the same quantity, the same foods 19 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: just to order can have a huge impact on our 20 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: glucose levels. So the correct order to eat your food 21 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: and during a meal. 22 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 2: Is Today's guest is jesse In Shaspe. 23 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 3: She is on a mission to make science sexy and 24 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 3: she's definitely doing that. 25 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 2: In this episode, we discuss simple and easy. 26 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 3: Hacks to eat the food you want without compromising your health, 27 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 3: how to eat your carbs the right way, food labels, 28 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 3: and what to look out for when you're shopping. The 29 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 3: relationship between your diet and common health conditions like infertility, dementia, 30 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 3: and depression. This episode is filled with information we all 31 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 3: need to know. What I loved about this episode was 32 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 3: how easy and inexpensive her tips are but still so effective. 33 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 3: My entire family started following her hacks and it has 34 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 3: made such a difference. I hope this episode helps you 35 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 3: to create better food habits, which then result in better health. 36 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 1: You have your little cards. 37 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 2: I'm so of course I do, because there is so 38 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 2: much to speak to you about. Oh my gosh. 39 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 3: Well, first of all, thank you so much for being 40 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 3: on this podcast you have. I don't think you realize 41 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 3: how obsessed I am with you, and I need to 42 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 3: tone it down during this podcast because it may scare you. 43 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 3: Oh it's fine, but I am so upset and my 44 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 3: family is now so obsessed. So I literally read your 45 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 3: book with both books in two days really over the weekend, 46 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 3: and I could not put it down. I just felt 47 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 3: like it had opened up a whole new world to 48 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 3: eating and living and just having a healthier body and mind. 49 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 3: And it was just incredible. So my sister brought the book, 50 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 3: my dad bought the bog. My sister Binge read your 51 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 3: book in a day as I did, and suddenly her, 52 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 3: her children, my dad, my whole family are following the 53 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 3: Glucose Goddess methods. 54 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: So, girl, thank you. 55 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 3: They're part of the Glucus Revolution, which, by the way, everyone, 56 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 3: that is the name of your This is first book, 57 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 3: first book, and the second book is the Glucose Goddess 58 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 3: Method and it's no other than Jesse. 59 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 2: And tell me how you pronounce your last name before 60 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 2: I was Chilsby. That's so beautiful. 61 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: Well, the French way is very good. Thank you, you 62 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:47,839 Speaker 1: got it. Girl. 63 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I just want to ask you 64 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 3: because I already know about your entire life, but I 65 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 3: feel like the audience may not. So I feel like 66 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 3: I have to allow you to share your story because 67 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 3: it's incredible and I want the well to know it. 68 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,679 Speaker 3: So please, could you tell me how did you come 69 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 3: to create these incredible books? 70 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of weird to know, you know, you 71 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: have your book out now, but it's kind of weird. 72 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: When you look at a book and you realize all 73 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: the steps that you had to take to actually get 74 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: to this, it's wild. So the whole thing started at 75 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: the beginning when I was nineteen, big accident, break my back. 76 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: Your podcast is called a really good cry, Lots of crying, 77 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: terrible surgery, lots of physical pain, lots of mental health 78 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: issues afterwards. And so I was nineteen roddy and I 79 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: just felt like, Wow, I'm completely broken. My soul is 80 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: completely broken. So I had to figure out how to 81 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: feel better. You know, I was living in London at 82 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: the time. I was studying mathematics, and I just my 83 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: whole everything was in shambles. So you know, I put 84 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: on my big girl pants and I was like, Okay, 85 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: I feel absolutely horrendous, but let me try and figure 86 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: out how to feel better. That brought me to study 87 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: biochemistry in grad school to understand how the inside of 88 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: our body works. It was interesting. I didn't find anything, 89 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: No breakthroughs happened that allowed me to feel better. And 90 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: then I went on to work in genetics in Silicon 91 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: Valley for five years. Super interesting but not helpful. At 92 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: all when it comes to mental health. I was like, 93 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: my DNA doesn't tell you anything about what you need 94 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: to be doing to feel better. And then while I 95 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: was there, and I really believe in, you know, the 96 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 1: universe helping us and guiding us, there was this pilot 97 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: study going on inside the company I was working at, 98 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: and they wanted five volunteers to try on a continuous 99 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: glucose monitor. I don't have diabetes, nobody in my family 100 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: has diabetes. But I raised my hand because something inside 101 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 1: me was telling me this is going to teach me 102 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, And what I found was fascinating. I 103 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 1: found that the days where my glucos levels were like 104 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 1: a roller coaster spike drop, spike drop, spike drop, my 105 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: mental health was worse. And the days where my glucos 106 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: levels were nice and steady, I felt better. And this 107 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: may sound obvious, but to me, you know, eight years 108 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: after this surgery, eight years into horrible mental health issues, 109 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: I was like, wait a second, did I find something 110 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: that could influence my mental health? Did I just start 111 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: to understand that my food could impact how I felt? 112 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: And so that opened, you know, really wide, these massive 113 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: gates into the world of blood sugar and it became 114 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: my passion. I was able to start my healing process 115 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,679 Speaker 1: through the science that I discovered. And then it became 116 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: so clear that this information was too important not to share. 117 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 1: So I started on Instagram where I talked about glucost 118 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: levels and here we are five years later, and now 119 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,119 Speaker 1: I'm really happy to be able to share this science 120 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: with the world because whoever you are, this is so 121 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 1: helpful to your heart. 122 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it really is. And I would say, 123 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 3: you know, you said it's not obvious. It seems like 124 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 3: something that's obvious, But I would say it's not obvious. 125 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 3: You don't think the majority of the people in the world. 126 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 3: I think unless we're taught it from a really young age, 127 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 3: that how the food that we are eating becomes us, 128 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 3: and it becomes our mind, and it becomes our brain, 129 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 3: and it becomes our heart, and it becomes all of 130 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 3: these parts of our bodies, including how we feel emotionally, 131 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,119 Speaker 3: how we feel mentally, how we feel every single day. 132 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 3: It's not broken down to us like that. And I 133 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 3: study nutrition and dietetics. I was a clinical dietitian for 134 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 3: a few years, and I have to say the same thing, 135 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 3: where you know, it's so different knowing looking at it 136 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 3: and reading it as you're wearying. But what's beautiful about 137 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 3: what you've done is you've been through something, you've learnt something, 138 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 3: and then you've. 139 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 2: Put it into practice. 140 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 3: And so I think it's really different being someone who 141 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 3: knows research but has lived research and in research. 142 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's like everybody can give you all this 143 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: amazing advice in your life, but and so you go 144 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: through it, you're not going to be able to really 145 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: integrate it. And I know you get it because I 146 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: remember in the introduction of your book, you talk about 147 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 1: this how our food becomes us. Our food, you know, 148 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 1: powers us. Our body is our food. It's amazing. And 149 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: the rain is the same situation. What you eat impacts 150 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: your cravings, your hunger, your energy, the speed of the 151 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: signals between your neurons, how much brain fog you feel, 152 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 1: your mental health. It's fascinating it is. 153 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 3: And you know, I also don't think people have You know, 154 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 3: there maybe lots of people out there who don't even 155 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 3: know what glucose is or will connect it to diabetes, 156 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 3: because that's how I was until I study nutrition. Glucose 157 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 3: was linked to my grandma, who has diabetes or you 158 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 3: know my uncle who has diabetes. It wasn't something that 159 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 3: I would ever have to think. 160 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 2: About in my life. 161 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 3: And so would you mind explaining what glucose is and 162 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 3: how it is actually something that impacts us every single 163 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 3: day from the moment we eat to how it affects 164 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 3: our bodies. 165 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: I love this question. So glucose is your body's favorite 166 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: source of energy. So right now, if you're listening to us, 167 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: dear listeners, the cells in your brain are burning glucose 168 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: to make sense of what you're hearing. Okay, if everybody 169 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: just squeezes their right hand right now and makes a fist, 170 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: the cells in your hand muscles are using glucose to contract, right. 171 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: And this goes for your brain, for your liver, for 172 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: your toesels, for your ovaries, for your heart, everything. Your 173 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: body is burning glucose all the time. And the main 174 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: way that we give this incredibly important glucose to our 175 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: to our bodies is by eating foods. By eating two 176 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: types of foods starches, so that's bread, rice, oats, pasta, potatoes, 177 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: and sweet foods. So anything that tastes sweet, from your 178 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: amazing chocolate dessert to an apple, okay, and Now you 179 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: might think, okay, well I want lots of energy, so 180 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: I should give my body lots of glucose, lots of 181 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: starches and sugars, right, And actually this is where the 182 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: logic breaks down. I love to take the example of 183 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: a plant. And you have some really cute plants in 184 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: your studio here, and as a plant owner, you know 185 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: that your plant needs some water to live. But if 186 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 1: by mistake you know it jowns, it dies. The human 187 00:08:56,679 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: body is the same. Some glucose amazing, bringing on fast, fantastic. 188 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: Too much glucose and problems start happening. And during a meal, 189 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: when you give too much glucose to your body, your 190 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: body experience is what's called egg glucose spike, So a 191 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 1: rapid increase in your glucose levels in your blood. And 192 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: this comes with consequences inflammation, mitochondrial fatigue, you're tired, brain fog, 193 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: the activation of the craving center in your brain, Your 194 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: hunger hormones become completely unbalanced, you might get some skinish shoes, 195 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,839 Speaker 1: long term maggat, fertility problems, type of diabetes, et cetera. 196 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: So my whole work has been to teach people how 197 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: to avoid these spikes, but without giving up the chocolate 198 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 1: dessert that you're going to make for me after this episode. Yeah, 199 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: we have it on camera. 200 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 2: I am making you some chocolate disaster or we're going 201 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 2: to do. 202 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: Or the polenta big that I saw that I really 203 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: want to try. So anytime we eat carbs, you know, 204 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: carbs are amazing, They're delicious, they're cheap, they're culture. I 205 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: don't want to give them up, Like there's no way. Now. 206 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 3: I grew up, you know, I after reading your book 207 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 3: and also after starting my fitness journey and trying to 208 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 3: live a healthier lifestyle. I grew up in an Indian 209 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 3: house and it was filled with amazing food. I grew 210 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 3: up vegetarian, and there was lentails and beans and pulses always, 211 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 3: you know, a lentil or a pulse on my dish. 212 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 3: There was always that, and that was always our way 213 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 3: of getting protein in our diet. That was probably the 214 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 3: only source that we really had. But as I grew 215 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:32,079 Speaker 3: up and I started learning about the different components of foods, 216 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 3: I realized that, you know, that was actually one of 217 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 3: the questions I was going to ask you, is when 218 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 3: you're thinking about a lentil. 219 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: Or a bean. 220 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 3: What is the makeup and the breakup of it is 221 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,359 Speaker 3: obviously still carbohydrates, but it's also proteins. 222 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 1: Yes, it's a tough one because lentils pulses, they're actually 223 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 1: thirty percent fiber, thirty percent protein, thirty percent cars. So listen, 224 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: I put them actually in the vegetable category. I would yeah, 225 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: I would actually eat my lentils first during a meal. 226 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: We can get to that happen. They're quite rich in fiber, 227 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: you know, they're quite amazing, and they do contain carbs. 228 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: But because they have so much fiber and protein in there, 229 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: that's going to slow down the breakdown of the carbs. 230 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 3: That makes all of us Indians very happy, like very happy. 231 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 3: I've been waiting to ask you that question, but I 232 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 3: want to ask you so on a day to day basis, 233 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 3: someone's walking about and they're living their life. I know 234 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 3: you mentioned tiredness, and you mentioned a few of the symptoms, 235 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 3: but what are the main symptoms that a person should 236 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 3: be looking out for, Because you know, we may feel 237 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 3: tired because we haven't had enough sleep. We may feel 238 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 3: a bit lethalgic because we're on the first day of 239 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 3: our period. 240 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 2: Like there's so many there's so many. 241 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 3: Different reasons for us feeling certain symptoms, But on a 242 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 3: grander scale, what are the symptoms that someone's walking around saying, 243 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,319 Speaker 3: you know what, I think I need to see what 244 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 3: my glucoselves are doing because I'm feeling this, this, and this. 245 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: I would say the most common symptoms are craving something 246 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: sweet throughout the day. So it's ten am and you 247 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,199 Speaker 1: really want a pastry, or it's four pm and you're like, 248 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: I need a COOKI he or a chocolate bar. Or 249 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: it's eleven pm and you know that pot of ice 250 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 1: cream in the back of your freezer it's calling your name. Yeah, 251 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: So those are sugar cravings, right, And very often the 252 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: symptom of having these spikes and these drops all day 253 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: is the activation of the craving center in your brain 254 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: and it tells you're ready, find a cookie, Find a cookie. 255 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 2: You have that all the time. I'm like, yeah, I 256 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 2: have that voice in my head totally. 257 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: So that's one of the most common ones. And then 258 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: I would say the fatigue. So, of course, you know, 259 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: sleep is a factor. Maybe your kid wok you up 260 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: in the middle of the night, of course, but nonetheless, 261 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:40,319 Speaker 1: if you feel like your body is just not producing 262 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: the energy that it should be. So going to the 263 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: grocery store is exhausting, you know, picking up your kids 264 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 1: from school is exhausting. You wake up, you're exhausted. You 265 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: don't have energy to really go after any dreams. That 266 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: could be because your little mitochondria, the factories inside of 267 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: your cells, are tired. And why do they become tired 268 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: because of gluco spike? What's weird about mitochondria and all? 269 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: This is so fascinating because there's always a nuance there. 270 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: Your mitochondria. They want glucose. That's what they burn to 271 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: create energy for your body. But if you give them 272 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: too much, they actually go on strike. They sort of 273 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: they're like too much information, cannot deal, need to go nap. 274 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: They're like, you know, too much glucose. 275 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 2: You know you're overwhorking me. I'm going on holiday exactly. 276 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: And so what happens is that we keep eating carbs, 277 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: but our mitochondria are not working. So we're exhausted and 278 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 1: we're like, but I'm giving my body all this energy, 279 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: why do I feel so tired? So the cravings and 280 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: the tiredness are the first symptoms to usually dissipate once 281 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: you start applying the hacks. 282 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 3: I can totally relate to that. And I, you know, 283 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 3: I think we're so used to thinking of comfort food, 284 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 3: like whenever I'm really hungry. From a young age, I've 285 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 3: had this desire to go towards bread, like bread has 286 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 3: always been my and I would think, Okay, I'm just 287 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 3: gonna have a quick piece of bread and I'm gonna 288 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 3: feel great and I'm gonna feel fine. And sometimes I 289 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 3: have it with nothing on it, just the piece of bread, 290 00:13:57,720 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 3: because bread is that good. 291 00:13:58,800 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: It's so good. 292 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 3: But I would always suffer with these cups and downs 293 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 3: of Okay, So I'd eat the bread and I'd feel 294 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 3: really grateful, like an hour, and then I'd feel really 295 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 3: hungry straight away. So then i'd have to keep eating, 296 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 3: but I keep feeling myself just on carbohydrates and you're 297 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 3: on a big satiated either. I was always still hungry, 298 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 3: like over and over again. I know you speak about 299 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 3: that in your book where it's almost like this vicious 300 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 3: cycle that you go see. 301 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: So if you're somebody who needs to snack every two hours, 302 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: you know that's a sign that you're on a Glugos 303 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: roller coaster. So you eat carbs, naked carbs, and we 304 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: can get to that in a sect like the bread. 305 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: You know, use spike because bread turns into glucose, So 306 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: glucose spike. Then crash ninety minutes later, craving center activate 307 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: hunger hormones all over the place. You're hungry again, so 308 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: you look for carbs again, and the cycle continues. And 309 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: it gets even worse if you're somebody who craves sweet foods, 310 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: because the sweet taste actually releases dopamine in your brain, 311 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: and dopamine is the pleasure hormone. It makes you literally 312 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: feel better. You know, when you're after a breakup, you 313 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: reach for the chocolate ice cream. You know why because 314 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: it's dopamine. It's a part of dopamine because you feel 315 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: like crap. So we're always craving for this dopamine hit 316 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: from sweet foods because a lot of us just don't 317 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: feel that good throughout the day. The problem is bam, 318 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: other glucospike and bam, you crash again and the cycle continues. 319 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 3: I always wonder whether if as children, because obviously we 320 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 3: must learn that pattern from a young age, right where 321 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 3: if we weren't having those things from a young age 322 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 3: and we were, you know, following some of the rules 323 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 3: that you're speaking about in your book. Like my sister's 324 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 3: now practicing it with her children, by the way, And 325 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 3: what's beautiful is she's always been really conscious about how 326 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 3: she feeds her children. And I've noticed, for example, with them, 327 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 3: they get really excited about a plate of crude taste. 328 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 2: Like they'll get really. 329 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 3: Excited about celery and cucumbers and cherry tomatoes, and they're 330 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 3: so happy with that, and that is their excitement. And 331 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 3: can I have that with some hummus or you know whatever, 332 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 3: They'll be really happy about that. But I think as 333 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 3: soon as you end up introducing sugar for some reason, 334 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 3: it's like this extreme pole we have towards it, and 335 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 3: once you've had it, you just cannot you can't forget it. 336 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: It's a very strong drug. And it's because that wiring 337 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: of sweet taste to dopamine that's been there for hundreds 338 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: of thousands of years because evolutionarily it made sense because 339 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: back in the day hunter gatherer days, if we found 340 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: all of a sudden a bunch of juicy oranges, well 341 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: we should eat those as quickly as we could to 342 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: store the energy. Right, because something sweets cannot be bad 343 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: for you. Nothing is poisonous and sweet and sweet taste 344 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: usually you know, tells you there's going to be a 345 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: lot of calories in here. So back in the day, 346 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: it made a lot of sense for us to gorge 347 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: on sweet stuff whenever we could find them twice a year. Wow. 348 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: But today, well, it's not good for us anymore because 349 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: sweet foods are everywhere, and they're cheap, and they're at 350 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: the corner store, at the gas station, at school. 351 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 3: It's like who and they're in all the things that 352 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 3: you don't even realize that's the problem. And I want 353 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 3: to go onto that in a bit. But I really 354 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 3: want everyone to know about your hacks, because those hacks 355 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 3: what I love. By everyone, you just read the book 356 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 3: because you're going to be obsessed. But what I love 357 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 3: about it is they're so simple. Me and my sister 358 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:05,959 Speaker 3: were talking about that yesterday. She was like, I just 359 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 3: love it because I didn't have to get anything. I 360 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 3: already had the things I needed in my house. It 361 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 3: wasn't even that I had to change what I was eating. 362 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 3: I just had to figure out a few bits here. 363 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 2: And there, and I feel so much better. 364 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: And it's free. 365 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. 366 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 1: It's so easy. 367 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 3: I want to go through hack by hack because I 368 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 3: think they're just phenomenal. So the first one I want 369 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 3: to talk about is the order of the foods. Yes, 370 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 3: so walk us through. Okay, how should we be eating 371 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 3: our foods? 372 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: Okay, So there's this amazing study that shows us that 373 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: if we eat the elements of our meal in a 374 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: specific order, we can reduce the glucose bike of that 375 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: meal by up to seventy five percent insane without changing 376 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: the meal. Like we eat the same quantity the same foods, 377 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 1: just the order can have a huge impact on our 378 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: glucose levels. So the correct order to eat your food 379 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 1: and during a meal for glucose levels is veggies first, 380 00:17:56,560 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: then proteins and fats, then starches and sugars. So why 381 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 1: this order, Well, because veggies first. Veggies contain fiber. Fiber, 382 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: she's like my superwoman, Like I love her. She is 383 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: just the bomb. So fiber. When we eat some at 384 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: the beginning of a meal, she's got time to go 385 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: and coat our upper intestine and make like a protective shield, 386 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:22,120 Speaker 1: sort of gooey, protective, sexy mesh. We love it. And 387 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: that mesh then slows down. How quickly. Glucose molecules will 388 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,919 Speaker 1: make their way from your stomach to your intestine and 389 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 1: to your bloodstream. So any starches of sugars during the 390 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: rest of the meal, like some pasta and some cookies, 391 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 1: they're not going to create as big as a spike. 392 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 1: You still eat them, but there will be less impact 393 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 1: on your health, less creation of a cravings cycle, less inflammation, etc. 394 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: The proteins in fat second is also because proteins and 395 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: fats when we eat them before carbs, are going to 396 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: slow down digestion, so you'll feel fuller for longer, and 397 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: then the carbs at the end because you've prepared, You've 398 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: coated with the ferverus mesh. There's stuff on your bell 399 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 1: and when you eat the carbs, they're going to arrive 400 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: more slowly. 401 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 3: Only you can make fiber sounds so sexy And can 402 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 3: I say during you all want Jesse to do some 403 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 3: sort of sleep meditation with her voice because I could 404 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 3: fall asleep to your You can just talk about five us. 405 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 2: I'd be nodding off us. 406 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 1: It's amazing. Yeah, yeah, okay, I'll do that. 407 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 2: Okay, you have to just give me a next project. 408 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 3: Okay, So question on that what if you are doing 409 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 3: a one pot meal, because you know all of us 410 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 3: we're cooking fast. Everyone wants a thirty minute meal. They 411 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 3: want all of their goodness in one part, less dishes. 412 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 2: What's that? What do we do with that? How does 413 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 2: that work? 414 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: Well? In that case, I would recommend going to hack 415 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: number two, which is having a vegetable starter. So you 416 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: know this order of eating, that's the as we were 417 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: talking about earlier, that's the scientific theory. It's quite strict, right, 418 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: But how do we apply this to our lives in 419 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: an easy way? Well, I recommend actually focusing just on 420 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: the veggies first part, because that's where most of the 421 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 1: power lies and that's much easier. So if you're having 422 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 1: on one part and dish, if you're having a sandwich, whatever, 423 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 1: have your meal, but before you eat it, have a 424 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: vegetable starter and listen. It can be five cherry tomatoes, 425 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: it can be two baby carrots. Okay, it can be 426 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:15,679 Speaker 1: one in the head of broccoli that's been in your 427 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 1: fridge for three days is in the back and he's 428 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: really cold. It doesn't matter, true. 429 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 2: To tape platter. 430 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 3: And you also have lots of wonderful recipes in your 431 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 3: boss and they're like five maybe max. 432 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 2: Ten ingredient recipes. That's including a dressing. 433 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 3: And there's so many different options that you present, from 434 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 3: raw veggies to having you know, a really nice broccoli 435 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 3: that's grilled with some sort of beautiful Misa dress. 436 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 1: You need stuff. Yeah, and I'm super lazy. I'm just 437 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: the laziest cook in the whole world. That's why I'm 438 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: really excited you're going to cook for me, because I mean, 439 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: if I could not cook and have everything prepared, I 440 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: would love that. But so my recipes are six ingredients 441 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 1: or less and they take five to ten minutes because again, 442 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: like that's just me. Yeah, they don't have time. I 443 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: want quick, easy recipes to do the hacks. So that's 444 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 1: hack number two. That's the veggies first hack. 445 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,360 Speaker 3: And when you do eat like one pop meal for example, 446 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 3: is it that your body will just break down carbohydrates 447 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 3: first because that's its preference, and then it will break 448 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 3: everything else. Sound like, if you are having something which 449 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 3: has protein, fats, carbohydrates, like everything together will's is it 450 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 3: still better for you than if you're having, you know, 451 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 3: just a straight carbohydrate because you've still got those protein together. 452 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 1: Absolutely, So it's kind of a spectrum. Let's say you 453 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 1: have a meal that's like spaghetti and meat and tomatoes. Right, 454 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: the worst thing to do for your glucose levels would 455 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 1: be to eat the spaghetti first, Yeah, and then the 456 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 1: meat and the tomatoes. A better option would be to 457 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: mix everything together. And an even better option would be 458 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,120 Speaker 1: the veggies first. You see what I mean? 459 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 3: And does it matter whether the vegetables are cooked or graill? 460 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: No, the only thing you want to avoid is we'll avoid. 461 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: That's going to be less beneficial is making a very 462 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: very runny soup. So blitzing like broccoli into oblivion because 463 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: when you do that, you're actually pulverizing the fiber particles. 464 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 2: And cooking the vegetables doesn't ruin the fiber. 465 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: No, and pulverizing them is fine, Like the fiber is 466 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: still there, but it's going to be a bit less effective. However, 467 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: it is better to have a broccoli soup than no 468 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 1: vegies start. There's always it's all relative. 469 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 470 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 3: The next one is my favorite. You're naked carbs or 471 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 3: dressing your carbs. Yeah, that I loved hearing that one. 472 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 3: Tell me about that, Oh, tell me about how you 473 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 3: dress your carbs. 474 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: Okay, So carbs, as I explain, are starches or sugars, 475 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: and the worst thing you can do for your glucose 476 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 1: levels is to eat them naked, to eat them on 477 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: their own. So for example, a cookie on its own 478 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: or a plate of pasta on its own. Why because 479 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: if you're eating just pure carbs, then the glucose molecules 480 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: are going to go super quickly be digested, nothing holding 481 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 1: them back. Yahd yaha. They get into your bloodstream super fast, 482 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: and then that's the glucose pik. What you want to 483 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,199 Speaker 1: do is put some clothing on the carbs. And clothing 484 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: is protein, fat, or fiber. Make them fancy exactly, all three, 485 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: make a little outfit for them. 486 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 487 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: And so for example, cookie with some nuts, or cookie 488 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 1: with yogurt, and pasta with some chicken, or pasta with 489 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: some spinach. You know, add some stuff, add some other 490 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: molecules around it to slow down how quickly that glucose 491 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: is arriving into your blood. 492 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 2: Is one better than another? 493 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,479 Speaker 3: Doing it with protein or with fats or a bit 494 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 3: of both is always better. 495 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: That's such a good question. Nobody's ever asked me that. 496 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: I think the best the best one to do is 497 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 1: the one that you like the most. 498 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 2: Oh, I like that. That's a good answer, So you 499 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 2: actually do it. 500 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, dress your carbs, make them look really fancy. 501 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 3: You can change their clothes every single day exactly. Yeah, 502 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 3: make a little fashion take it really fine. Outfit of 503 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 3: the day, except outfit of it. You have to do 504 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 3: that with your carbs. 505 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 2: That needs to another. 506 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:44,479 Speaker 3: See you're just giving you so many ideas of your 507 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 3: next projects, but your next social media series. 508 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: You can be my agent. Right. 509 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 3: Perfect has to be dressing your carbs outfit of the day, 510 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 3: the exercising after your meal. 511 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 2: So explain that. I have a wonderful question about it. 512 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 1: Okay, Well you know how I said that every cell 513 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,479 Speaker 1: in your body uses glucose for energy. The more you 514 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 1: contract your muscles, the more they need glucose. And so 515 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: we can use this to our advantage. This hack is 516 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: after you eat, move for ten minutes. Doesn't have to 517 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 1: be going to the gym. You don't have to run 518 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: a marathon. You can literally clean your kitchen that counts. 519 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 1: You can dance in your living room, you can go 520 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 1: for a walk, you can do some calf raises at 521 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 1: your desk. 522 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 3: One thing I did yesterday after I was like I 523 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 3: do not want to work out after I've eaten. 524 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 2: And you know what I did. 525 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 3: I pretended like I was jump roping while watching watching 526 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 3: a show. 527 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 2: Nice, but you were in my mind. 528 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 1: And that's why thank you in front of the TV. 529 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 1: I love doing squats or like I grab a water bottle, 530 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: water bottle, it a big bottle of olive oil. 531 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,679 Speaker 2: It's good, it's great, and something guys that It's so simple. 532 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 2: That's all you have to do. 533 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: And so when you do that, your muscles are going 534 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: to soak up some of the glucose from your meal 535 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: instead of letting it create a glucose spike in your bloodstream. 536 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 3: And so do carbohydrates and the glucose molecules also fuel 537 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 3: our muscles. Yes, ok, they do, And so would you 538 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 3: recommend you know, I've I've always had work out on 539 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 3: an empty stomach, Like have your workout in the morning 540 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 3: on an empty stomach. It's the most efficient for your body, 541 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 3: you know, workout fasted. So I would love to hear 542 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 3: your thoughts on that. 543 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: Listen, I'm not so sure about the scientific evidence around that. 544 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,360 Speaker 1: I think for me it's really hard to work out fasted. 545 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: I think for women, for our bodies it's important to 546 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: be properly fueling, especially if you're going to do something 547 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: a bit difficult, because otherwise it can be kind of 548 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: a stressor. Yes, so I always have some food in 549 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 1: the morning before working out, and of course listen in 550 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: the grand scheme of things, working out any time, of 551 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 1: course is the best thing to do. But for your 552 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: glucose levels, I don't know. I think it's kind of 553 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: more advantageous to take advantage of this concept to reduce 554 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 1: a spike of a meal. 555 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 2: That makes sense. 556 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I would do that. 557 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,439 Speaker 3: I've heard sometimes where if you're you know, even with 558 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 3: protein shakes and taking protein supplements, doing it within a 559 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 3: couple of hours after. 560 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. So, you know, people used to think that that 561 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: window was very short, and it's more like a barn door, 562 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: like even if you have protein six hours later, it's 563 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 1: still gonna go and replannish your muscles. 564 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 3: Okay, Well, all the muscle heads out there just know 565 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 3: you've got a longer to have your protein. 566 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,439 Speaker 1: I'm sure you have a lot of listeners who are 567 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: big muscle. 568 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 2: All of them just. 569 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 3: Want a really good cry. They're just secretly listening to 570 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 3: this crying in the corner. Vinegar Now This is the 571 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 3: next one. The apple side of vinegar. 572 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 1: Any vinegar, any vinegar. 573 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 3: Okay, any vinegar at all. Please tell us about the 574 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 3: vinegar hack. I've been doing it. 575 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 2: I felt great. Honestly. 576 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 3: I do it before my biggest carbohydrate mail, usually in 577 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 3: the afternoon. And I really like the taste of it. Actually, 578 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 3: I really enjoy drinking apple side of vinegar. And yeah, 579 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 3: please tell us the studies behind it and what it 580 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 3: does to our body. 581 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: Okay. And I was quite surprised when I learned all this. 582 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: I was like, really, there's science behind vinegar. So the 583 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: studies show us that vinegar contain a molecule called acetic acid, 584 00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:00,199 Speaker 1: super cool molecule. And if you have some before eating 585 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: a meal, and we're talking one tablespoon in a big 586 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 1: glass of water, any kind of vinegar. It can be 587 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 1: apple cider, white wine, vinegar, white red wine, and vinegar, whatever, cherry, vinegar, 588 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 1: whatever you want. The acetic acid is going to slow 589 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 1: down how quickly the carbs are turning into glucose molecules 590 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: and your stomach. And again we get back to this 591 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 1: idea of slowing down the arrival of the glucose into 592 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,360 Speaker 1: your blood. So I love doing this, you know, once 593 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,439 Speaker 1: a day when I'm gonna have as you said, you know, 594 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,719 Speaker 1: the meal with the most carbs, or before I have 595 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 1: a birthday cake or whatever. And this should be used 596 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: as a compliment to the other hacks. And one way 597 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: I love merging the vinegar hack is with the veggie 598 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 1: starter hack. So I will make a vinegar dressing on 599 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 1: my veggie starter. 600 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 2: Which is perfect because you get two in one exactly. Yeah. 601 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 3: Me, and I was talking to my sister about again 602 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 3: yesterday and I was like, so basically, every time I 603 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 3: want to eat cake, I will just have vinegar before 604 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,199 Speaker 3: I eat the cake, and it equals it out and 605 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 3: nothing's gonna happen exactly. 606 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: Well, it doesn't equal it up, but it really helps. 607 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 3: We just we've got now we have glucose god as banda. Yeah. 608 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 3: I really appreciate all those hacks. And the thing is 609 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 3: what I also think is you don't have to start 610 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 3: with all of them at once, right, like you can 611 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,360 Speaker 3: slowly bring each one. And I think you talk about 612 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 3: that in your book as well. We're week one, just 613 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 3: start with one of them, Week two, add in another one, 614 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 3: week three, add in another one, And I think that 615 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 3: helps you create sustainable changes in your life, where then 616 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 3: it becomes your lifestyle and it doesn't become oh my gosh, 617 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 3: this is a thirty day thing I'm going to do. No, 618 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 3: it's just this is how I'm going to incorporate new 619 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 3: wonderful habits into my life that become part of my 620 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 3: life easily. 621 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: That's the point. We don't want more crash diets. We 622 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: don't want more of these fads, don't to me. You know, 623 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: the hacks, they're almost like at the same level as 624 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: brush your teeth, they really are. Drink water, wear sunscreen, 625 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: have a savory breakfast, have vegies at the beginning of 626 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: your meal. You know, That's how it feels to me. 627 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: Do you feel like, just like flying principles and if 628 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 1: you don't do them for a day, a week, a month, 629 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 1: a year, who cares, you know, just pick them up 630 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 1: whenever you feel like it's yeah, it's super key. 631 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 2: Oh sorry, Yes, the last one is savory breakfast. 632 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's important one. 633 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 3: It is an important one because I do think a 634 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 3: lot of people, especially I find in the US, prioritize 635 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 3: the pastries and doughnuts, and it's a it's a big cereal. 636 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 2: We of course, we all grew up eating cereals. 637 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 1: Where did you grow up eating? 638 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 3: I grew up eating you know what, honestly I had. 639 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 3: I have the most amazing mom who used to just 640 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 3: make us green juices and caurroge juice in the morning, 641 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:35,479 Speaker 3: and like she would just make sure we had really yummy, fresh, 642 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 3: healthy food throughout our life. 643 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,479 Speaker 2: And I just am so grateful for that growing up. 644 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 3: But I as a child, as most teenagers do, no, Mom, 645 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 3: I want cereal and I would throw out the green 646 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 3: juice into the plant and she didn't know, and I 647 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 3: didn't appreciate it at the time. So I would want 648 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 3: all the sugary cereals, or I would want a toast 649 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 3: with jam on it, you know, all those the sweet things. 650 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: Even wanted the savory breakfast dopamine. You know you wanted 651 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: You wanted that Dopamineyeah makes sense, Yeah it does. Being 652 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: a kid and a teenager sucks. Yeah. 653 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 3: I want to want my stupplements and I don't want 654 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 3: my green juice. 655 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 2: The plan can have it. 656 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 3: But the savory breakfast one is great because when I 657 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 3: just to give some context, I swapped to a savory breakfast, 658 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 3: but before what I was doing was having my protein shake, 659 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 3: but I was doing a lot of fruit in there, 660 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 3: and I was doing fruit and like coca powder. And 661 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 3: but what I would say is because I was putting 662 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 3: quite a lot of fruit in there, I was finding 663 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 3: myself getting two hours in and I was in my 664 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 3: work day and I was feeling so almost like a 665 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 3: little bit sick and also so energyless, like I felt drained. 666 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 3: And I thought, I've just had an amazing workout. I've 667 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 3: had my protein. I've had like you know, something that 668 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 3: I thought was, yeah, I should feel great, but I'm 669 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 3: just not. But I kept doing it because I thought, 670 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 3: you know what, this is what people have told me. 671 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 3: I have this, and maybe it's just my body. And 672 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 3: then and then what I did was I switched around. 673 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 3: So I was having my what you recommended. I was 674 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 3: being scrambled tofu on toes with some avocado and some 675 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 3: like hem seeds, and then like maybe half an hour later, 676 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,239 Speaker 3: I'd have my protein chake with the same way, and 677 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 3: I have felt amazing. I'm satiated till lunchtime, amazing, and 678 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 3: I feel so good. And so just that swap of 679 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 3: changing that around. And I know you say you can 680 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 3: have the smoothies with protein, and but for me, I 681 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 3: was maybe putting in too much fruit, and even fruit 682 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 3: was giving me that glucose spike and making me feel 683 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 3: really lithologic what you put into it. 684 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 2: At that time, I was putting in you know, strawberries, pineapples. 685 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's very sweet. It was. 686 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 2: It was sweet. 687 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 3: But then I was like, oh, but it's a protein 688 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 3: shake and I'm really healthy, and I'm putting an avocado, 689 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 3: but you know, there was a limit of how much 690 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 3: fruit I could put into that. 691 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 1: And so by adding you know, the scrambled tofu and 692 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: the avocado and the bread, where you're doing is you're 693 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 1: really giving your body this savory start with protein and 694 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: healthy fats, you know, and not just a quick gulp 695 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: of sugars. And this hack is incredibly important. You cannot 696 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: have steady glucose levels if you're having something sweet in 697 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: the morning. So I always recommend people switch to having 698 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: a savory breakfast, build around protein, healthy fats. And you 699 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: can also if you want, add some starch, add some bread, 700 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: add some oats on the side, but importantly avoid having 701 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: anything sweet except whole fruit for taste if you want, so, 702 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: no cereal granola, fruit juice, honey, etc. Really try to 703 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 1: minimize that. And if you love that sweet food, have 704 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: it for dessert after your lunch, your dinner, right, just 705 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: not in the morning because in the morning your system 706 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: is completely empty. So if you give it too much sugar, 707 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: big lucospike and then exactly as you were describing, the 708 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: two hours later you feel off where you're like, oh 709 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: my god, and then you need to pick me up 710 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 1: and maybe it's a coffee, maybe it's a red Bull, 711 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: maybe it's more sugar, and the whole day is kind 712 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: of messed up. 713 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I can really relate to that. So if you 714 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 3: were having you know, you said building your meals around protein. 715 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 3: So obviously I'm vegan and I have been for ten 716 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 3: years now, and I know you mentioned you had gone 717 00:32:58,360 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 3: vegan for a little bit. 718 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I wanted. 719 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 3: To know, like because for a lot of I think 720 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 3: a lot of the people who listen to this podcast 721 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 3: also are maybe plant based, And what would you recommend 722 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 3: building Obviously, you know there's tofu and there is now chick, 723 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 3: can we use legumes as as our protein, start like 724 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 3: creating a meal around. 725 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: Them savor breakfast? Yeah, you can, absolutely, I think if 726 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 1: you're vegan you have to be super good about you 727 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 1: need to supplement with you need to supplement with omega three, 728 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 1: otherwise your brain is going to fall apart. Yeah, it's 729 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: really important. You need to make sure you're getting that 730 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 1: good stuff, you know. And if you're somebody who wants 731 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: to be plant based and not eat you know, dead animals, 732 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: which I understand, maybe bring in some eggs or some 733 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: dairy you know from like pasture raised places that that 734 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:50,479 Speaker 1: eggs are nature's multi vitamins, so good for you. So 735 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 1: but yes, you can build around legumes, you can build 736 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 1: it around protein powder from plant sources. Absolutely, you just 737 00:33:56,280 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: have to be really aware. It's very it's hard. It's 738 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 1: very hard. 739 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've been trying. 740 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, that's that's what you do, and 741 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: you're really good at it because you spend so much 742 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 1: time learning about your body and cooking. So when I 743 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: was vegan, i only ate oreos and pasta. Yeah, and 744 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm vegan, guys, I'm so healthy, and 745 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 1: I got super depressed. My skin was terrible. And then 746 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 1: I went keto and I was like I was just 747 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 1: eating like pounds and pounds and pounds of cheese all 748 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 1: day and I was like, I'm kuto, I'm so healthy, 749 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 1: but I gained like ten pounds. I was like, I 750 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: don't know what's happening. So to me, these extreme diets 751 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,879 Speaker 1: never worked. It's not for me, you know. I want 752 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: to balanced life. I want to make sure I'm giving 753 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 1: my body everything that it needs. And so for me, 754 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 1: this approach of eating a bit of everything. I actually 755 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 1: I never eat red meat. I just don't want it, 756 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,280 Speaker 1: you know. But I ate so many eggs, I dairy, 757 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: ate cheese. I'll have some chicken once in a while, 758 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 1: and that works for me. Yeah. But the cool thing 759 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 1: about these hacks is that they can be applied to 760 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: any kind of diets and lifestyle. And in my books 761 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 1: I have examples whether you're vg or your full keto 762 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: paleo or whatever. 763 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 2: I appreciate it that you have everything in that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 764 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 2: I do find that. 765 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 3: And I think there's just different things that work for 766 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,320 Speaker 3: different bodies who all such different bodies and don't know, 767 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 3: you know, you write by that in your book as well. 768 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:16,399 Speaker 3: How don't be surprised if you don't have the same you. 769 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 3: It will it will help everybody, but it will have 770 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 3: a different reaction on everybody exactly like your blood glucause. 771 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 3: That may start at a different level to your friends, 772 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 3: and it may spike to a different level. But the 773 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 3: point is all of these hacks will help bring it 774 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 3: down to some degree. 775 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: Girl, I'm impressed with you. You're really understood everything, because 776 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,800 Speaker 1: that's a that's a key concept that most people don't 777 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,359 Speaker 1: really grasp. So if you and I both ate your 778 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,800 Speaker 1: palenta bake and we were both wearing a glucos monitor, 779 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 1: our spikes would look different, yes, and but from that 780 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 1: you can't actually draw any conclusions. But if we both 781 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 1: had a veggie started before the plenta bake, both of 782 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,839 Speaker 1: our spikes would be smaller. That's what's important. And also, 783 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,800 Speaker 1: all the hacks that I share they're based on clinical 784 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 1: trials done at scale that show that this stuff actually 785 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,800 Speaker 1: holds up in a large population. I'm not just slapping 786 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 1: goes monitor on and making a test and saying, oh, 787 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 1: this is a generalized truth. You know, That's not what 788 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 1: I'm doing. I'm just illustrating the studies with my data. 789 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I agree with that. 790 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 3: Even with you know, living a plant based diet, I 791 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 3: think you really have to figure out what works for 792 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 3: you because for me touch wood. And I don't like 793 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 3: saying this too often, but I've had such great response 794 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 3: from my body to being plant based, Like I feel 795 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 3: like I have thrived off it, and my results. Every 796 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 3: time I go to get blooded, im like, is there 797 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:31,360 Speaker 3: something wrong? Like what are my microntubs? Everything has always 798 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 3: been so bad, And I think it is because you 799 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,880 Speaker 3: have to make if you're choosing to do these specific 800 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 3: types of you know, this a specific lifestyle. You have 801 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 3: to learn how to do it to make your body thrive, right, 802 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 3: not oreos and past but you always start there there 803 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,760 Speaker 3: if you doesn't start with orios and pasta when you're vegan. 804 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 2: But everything in. 805 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 3: Life takes conscious effort, and with what you've done, it's 806 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 3: conscious effort, Like, yeah, you're not gonna be able to 807 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:57,720 Speaker 3: just look in your fridge and just grab something. 808 00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 2: You have to also plan for it. 809 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,239 Speaker 3: And I think that's really important because you all live 810 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 3: slightly an unconscious life where we live through it day 811 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 3: to day monotonously, not thinking about our day to day 812 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 3: actions or what we're picking up and putting into our 813 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 3: body and into our mouth, and so these are easy hacks, 814 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 3: but at the same time, I will say they are 815 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,360 Speaker 3: conscious hacks, and they are conscious things you have to 816 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,799 Speaker 3: adapt your lifestyle to do and to incorporate in order 817 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,840 Speaker 3: for you to notice, this is what I'm fueling my 818 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,800 Speaker 3: body with, this is what I'm putting into my body, 819 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 3: and this is how it's affecting me. And I think 820 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,800 Speaker 3: the blood glucas monitor is a great way to understand 821 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,280 Speaker 3: your physical body. And do you recommend it to anyone 822 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 3: and everyone to have? 823 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:34,880 Speaker 2: No? 824 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,880 Speaker 1: I think you can get so many benefits from just 825 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 1: applying my hacks even without wearing one, because you you'll 826 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 1: be able to feel your body change, your cravings, dissipates, 827 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 1: your brain fog going away, your energy levels improving. Listen, 828 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,840 Speaker 1: if you want to wear one, fantastic and just please 829 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 1: read my book before because they can be very confusing 830 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,839 Speaker 1: to interpret. But you don't need one if it calls 831 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,319 Speaker 1: your name, and you know, for me it changed my 832 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 1: life completely. But now I've done all the world for you, 833 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 1: so you don't actually really need to need to wear 834 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 1: one to see it all. But it can be super motivating, 835 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,359 Speaker 1: so it's if it calls you. Yes, I would never 836 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,880 Speaker 1: recommend it to everybody. I don't think that's the point. 837 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 2: And I think tuning into a body without even needing 838 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 2: a physical device. Is such a beautiful process because you 839 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:19,400 Speaker 2: can start by simply writing a journal of these are 840 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,400 Speaker 2: the things that I've incorporated, and this is how I 841 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,359 Speaker 2: feel today, this is how I feel the next day 842 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 2: I've eaten, this how I feel. 843 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,440 Speaker 1: And in the bluegos Gotters Method, my second book, at 844 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 1: the beginning, I have this work book, so it's a 845 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,399 Speaker 1: four week method, and you can write, you know, how 846 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 1: are my cravings, how is my energy? What they're notice 847 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 1: And it's super cool because you become connected exactly and 848 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 1: you realize symptoms are messages from your body enough to suppress. 849 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 3: Right as soon as I get a physical symptom, like 850 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 3: even if I get a spot on my face or 851 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 3: if I get some sort of pain in my back 852 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 3: or whatever I'm feeling physically, it's become such an indication 853 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,800 Speaker 3: of there is something happening internally that I'm not addressing. 854 00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 2: Yes, and then I have to break it down. Is 855 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 2: it physical? Is it emotional? Is it mental? 856 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 3: Is it something that I am doing wrong in my 857 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:05,840 Speaker 3: lifting things or whatever? 858 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:09,400 Speaker 2: But it's making me so aware that something. 859 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,239 Speaker 3: Is happening, and I think, you know the things that 860 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 3: we actually experience on surface level are the last It's 861 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 3: the last scream of our body saying hey, I need 862 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 3: you to listen to me. And I know the only 863 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:21,239 Speaker 3: way you can listen to me is if I put 864 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 3: a big spot on your face right now, because otherwise 865 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:26,719 Speaker 3: I've been screaming at you for so long and you 866 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 3: have not been listening. And so anytime you notice, you know, 867 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,839 Speaker 3: our physical body pain is linked to our emotions. Our 868 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 3: our skin is linked to the nutrients that we're eating. 869 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,400 Speaker 3: Like everything is so interling and as soon as we 870 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 3: disconnect from that, that's when we start noticing these physical 871 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 3: ailments that happen on our body. 872 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,800 Speaker 1: I completely agree, Yeah, I am thank you for those hacks. 873 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,720 Speaker 2: You're welcome changing all of our lives. 874 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 3: I wanted to ask you about food labels because unfortunately 875 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 3: our world has become just so so you know, supermarkets 876 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 3: are really difficult to navigate because not only do you 877 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 3: have to figure out all the things that are written 878 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,440 Speaker 3: at the back of the label, all the ingredients list. 879 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 2: Where sometimes you don't even know what the words are. 880 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 2: On top of that, you have. 881 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 3: The front labels where it says gluten free, good for you, 882 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,400 Speaker 3: super food, whole grain. 883 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:21,400 Speaker 1: You know, oreos, Yeah. 884 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 3: Oreos healthier alternative, no added sugars. And so for somebody 885 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 3: who hasn't, you know, studied biochemistry and hasn't been a nutritionist, 886 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,360 Speaker 3: and even for me, I get overwhelmed where I'm like, 887 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 3: oh this I got told by this person online that 888 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:41,759 Speaker 3: this is a super food I have to have every 889 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 3: single day and it's going to make me feel amazing, 890 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 3: and then you end up reading about it and someone 891 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,319 Speaker 3: else is like, well, actually this is going to kill you. 892 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,360 Speaker 3: So I just want to give us your top five 893 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,759 Speaker 3: things to look out for, or like, what should when 894 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,239 Speaker 3: someone's navigating a supermarket or a grocery store, what are 895 00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 3: the things they should absolutely avoid on labels? 896 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,799 Speaker 1: Okay, the first place I would look is in the 897 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 1: ingredients list. So in the ingredients list, the ingredients are 898 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:11,239 Speaker 1: ordered by quantity, so the by percentage, right, So it 899 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:15,480 Speaker 1: might say something like wheat flour and cane sugar and 900 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 1: milk butter. That means that the flour is the biggest 901 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,720 Speaker 1: amount ingredients in the food. And so if there's sugar 902 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 1: in the top five ingredients, that is dessert. Whatever the 903 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 1: food is, right, if it's and it might not say 904 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 1: just sugar, it might say honey, dextros, apple cure, malto, dextrin, highroctose, 905 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:42,799 Speaker 1: corn syrup, syrup, moluses, and it can say so many things. 906 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,239 Speaker 1: If it's in the top five ingredients, just know that 907 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,920 Speaker 1: this food item is dessert and treated like dessert. Have 908 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 1: it at the end of a meal. I don't care 909 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,719 Speaker 1: if on the front it says that it's bread, or 910 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 1: that it says it is a healthy yogurt. 911 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,120 Speaker 2: That it's a breakfast cereal. Yeah, it is. 912 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:04,279 Speaker 1: A business idea dessert so Britily. 913 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:07,359 Speaker 3: It's my favorite dessert. I love having cereal. Cereal is 914 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,360 Speaker 3: my comfort food after a meal. It's it is my dessert. 915 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 1: I mean, you're the real good girls goddess. 916 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,560 Speaker 2: Cereal anytime of the day, though, I love its lunch. 917 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 1: Dessert Cereal so sugar in the top of the ingredients, 918 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 1: it's dessert. Another thing to look out for is on 919 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,440 Speaker 1: the front of the package if it says stuff like, 920 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:31,960 Speaker 1: as we just mentioned, gluten free, no added sugar, hinhend fiber, vegan, keto, whatever. 921 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,759 Speaker 1: If it's trying to scream its innocence at you, it's 922 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:39,359 Speaker 1: probably not so innocent, right, So just just look at 923 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:43,120 Speaker 1: the ingredients and be like, hmmm, actually, it says hypertusk 924 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,080 Speaker 1: cornsyrup ingredient number three. Those are the main two things. 925 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 1: I have more in my book, But I think if 926 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 1: you just take those two away, it's gonna help you 927 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:50,880 Speaker 1: a little bit already. 928 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, because you know, a lot of us see these 929 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:57,240 Speaker 3: buzzwords and you take them as so. It may be vegan, 930 00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,240 Speaker 3: and it may be true that it doesn't have animal 931 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,839 Speaker 3: products in it, but it does have sugars and bad 932 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 3: oils and you know, so many. 933 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:09,440 Speaker 2: Ingredients that actually counteract the fact that it's vegan. It 934 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:09,960 Speaker 2: is vegan. 935 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 3: It's also can be terrible for yes, cigarettes vegan, Yes, 936 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:13,719 Speaker 3: they are right. 937 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:18,160 Speaker 1: So alcohol is vegan, Alcohol is vegan. Five kilos of 938 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 1: processed sugar is vegan. Vegan does not mean healthy, the 939 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,759 Speaker 1: same way gluten free does not mean healthy, the same 940 00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,360 Speaker 1: way organic doesn't mean healthy. You know, you have to. 941 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,120 Speaker 1: I mean, it's great if these labels mean something to 942 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,920 Speaker 1: you and are important to you, but it doesn't automatically 943 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,239 Speaker 1: give that exactly. 944 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:35,799 Speaker 2: I completely agree. 945 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:40,040 Speaker 3: I want to talk about fertility and hormones because one 946 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 3: thing I've seen Arizin is women's struggles with fertility and 947 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:49,600 Speaker 3: getting pregnant and struggles with you know, being able to 948 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,000 Speaker 3: hold space for a baby in their body and make 949 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,680 Speaker 3: it all the way through. And it's it's miscarriages, so 950 00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 3: many more miscarriages in the world. And I know you 951 00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,840 Speaker 3: talk about in your book about you know, hormonal regulation 952 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,279 Speaker 3: linked to sugar and glucose spikes, and I think it 953 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,400 Speaker 3: would be so useful. You know, predominant listeners and people 954 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,840 Speaker 3: that are part of my community are women, and I 955 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,600 Speaker 3: think it will be really amazing for us to talk 956 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:12,960 Speaker 3: about this. 957 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,560 Speaker 2: And when you share what you know about do it so. 958 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:20,440 Speaker 1: Your hormonal system is very tightly coupled with your glucose levels. 959 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,279 Speaker 1: They are like two peas in a pot. And if 960 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,800 Speaker 1: your glugos levels are all over the place, your hormonal 961 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,480 Speaker 1: system is not going to be able to function properly. Specifically, 962 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,120 Speaker 1: let's talk about infertility and one of the most common 963 00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,839 Speaker 1: causes of infertility women PCOS polycystic ovarian syndrome. I think 964 00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 1: it's now one in seven females houses. Yeah, so what 965 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:43,000 Speaker 1: the heck is PCOS. PCOS is sort of an umbrella 966 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,560 Speaker 1: term for lots of symptoms that are due to having 967 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 1: too much tystosterone, the male sex hormone in a female body. Okay, 968 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:56,640 Speaker 1: so how do we get this tightestosterone. Well, you often 969 00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,960 Speaker 1: find that women who have PCOS also have this thing 970 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:05,840 Speaker 1: called insulin resistance. And insulin resistance happens after years and 971 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:10,880 Speaker 1: years of glucose spikes, as this hormone called insulin rushes 972 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,359 Speaker 1: out to grab the excess glucose in your body and 973 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:17,840 Speaker 1: store it away to reduce its damaging side effects. Insulin 974 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,879 Speaker 1: is great, but if too much insulin is pumped out 975 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:24,360 Speaker 1: over too long, it causes insulin resistance. Basically, your body 976 00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,240 Speaker 1: is not able to respond to insulin very well anymore. 977 00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,799 Speaker 1: And when there's too much insulin around your ovaries, your 978 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:36,600 Speaker 1: ovaries are told to produce more distosterone. Yeah, so that 979 00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,359 Speaker 1: is and PCOS doesn't have just this is a cause, 980 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 1: but this is one of the most common reasons. So, 981 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,920 Speaker 1: lots of glucose spikes, lots of insulin release, ovaries produce 982 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,160 Speaker 1: loads of distosterone, and all of a sudden, in a 983 00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:51,200 Speaker 1: female body, you have this excess of distosterone. What does 984 00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:55,040 Speaker 1: this mean? Balding on the head, hair growth on the face, 985 00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:59,000 Speaker 1: missed periods, acne, all this kind of stuff. And so 986 00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,799 Speaker 1: the way it's often treated by conventional medicine is by 987 00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,440 Speaker 1: giving a woman the birth control pill. Why Why Because 988 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:10,520 Speaker 1: the pill is female hormones. So when you give this 989 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:14,760 Speaker 1: extra boost of female hormones in the balance, the testosterone 990 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,480 Speaker 1: kind of evens out with the amount of female hormones, 991 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,960 Speaker 1: so the symptoms go away. But if you then stop 992 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:24,080 Speaker 1: the pill because you want to have a baby, then 993 00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,399 Speaker 1: put female hormones drop because you're not taking the pill 994 00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,960 Speaker 1: and testosterone is back up. So you're like, well shit, 995 00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,719 Speaker 1: I'm not ovulating right, So what do we do to 996 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:35,000 Speaker 1: fix it? We look at our food. We avoid our 997 00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:39,920 Speaker 1: glucose spikes, and this naturally can reduce ystosterone levels and 998 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,719 Speaker 1: help you obviate again naturally. I have so many messages 999 00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,440 Speaker 1: from women who have pcos who've been able to reverse it, 1000 00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,799 Speaker 1: hacks lots of babies when they were told they were 1001 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,800 Speaker 1: never going to be able to have a baby naturally. 1002 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,560 Speaker 1: So before you do anything else, look at your food 1003 00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,399 Speaker 1: because it very well could be causing this issue. I'm 1004 00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,960 Speaker 1: not saying it's gonna fix everybody, but it's going to 1005 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:03,400 Speaker 1: help a lot of people. 1006 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, And how wonderful if you don't have to be 1007 00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,480 Speaker 3: you know, less medication. We have to be on the 1008 00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,840 Speaker 3: better and if someone is able to create a life 1009 00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:15,359 Speaker 3: and a small adjustments that prevent them to do that 1010 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,560 Speaker 3: and allow them to have children if they want to. 1011 00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,279 Speaker 3: What a beautiful thing to be able to do just 1012 00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:22,880 Speaker 3: through changing the food that you're eating. 1013 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:26,480 Speaker 1: Because PCOS is not a disease that's like, oh, I 1014 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,279 Speaker 1: lack enough female hormones. That's not the problem, right, The 1015 00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:30,960 Speaker 1: problem is the imbalance. 1016 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:32,759 Speaker 3: But they are you know what, a lot of women 1017 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:34,640 Speaker 3: when they do have PECOS and they go to the doctor, 1018 00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,640 Speaker 3: they are told that it's something that you know, you 1019 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:37,920 Speaker 3: go on the pill, But that doesn't mean it's going 1020 00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,080 Speaker 3: to solve it or it's going to help you get fertile. 1021 00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,240 Speaker 3: Like going on the pill doesn't allow you to get pregnant. 1022 00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,760 Speaker 3: It just exactly. 1023 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,560 Speaker 1: But listen, that is the way that doctors are trained today. 1024 00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:52,680 Speaker 1: They're trained to diagnose medical condition, write prescription for medication, 1025 00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,160 Speaker 1: and they're really good at that, and we need that 1026 00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:58,320 Speaker 1: for so many cases. But we also need to ask ourselves, 1027 00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:00,680 Speaker 1: hold on a second, why do I even have this 1028 00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:02,800 Speaker 1: problem in the first place. That's not something that doctors 1029 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:04,680 Speaker 1: are trained to look at. And now we have so 1030 00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,719 Speaker 1: much amazing evidence that is starting to uncover the real 1031 00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:11,279 Speaker 1: reasons behind so many conditions. But it's not just fragility, right, 1032 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:16,080 Speaker 1: It's things like exema, psoriasis, difficult menopause symptoms, brain fragments, 1033 00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:19,480 Speaker 1: or health problems. I mean, there's a big shift happening. 1034 00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:23,120 Speaker 1: Our food system is making us sick. The food landscape 1035 00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,640 Speaker 1: we live in is like whew, it's rough, So we 1036 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,480 Speaker 1: need to take a back control. We also need a 1037 00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:29,400 Speaker 1: regulation on the government side, and I'm pushing for that 1038 00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,520 Speaker 1: as well, But we also need to teach people how 1039 00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,480 Speaker 1: to navigate this crazy world we live in. 1040 00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:34,239 Speaker 2: And I think that's it. 1041 00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,520 Speaker 3: Teaching people how to navigate is so important because a 1042 00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,879 Speaker 3: lot of as you were saying, whether it's the health 1043 00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:43,120 Speaker 3: industry or the food industry, we pretty much give away 1044 00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:46,080 Speaker 3: our power of our own health to so many people 1045 00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:49,280 Speaker 3: because we don't realize we have it in our control, 1046 00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,120 Speaker 3: Like how much of it we can actually control. Oh, 1047 00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:55,120 Speaker 3: I feel anxious and I feel tired all the time, 1048 00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,200 Speaker 3: or that just must be how my body is, And 1049 00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,440 Speaker 3: it's got nothing to do with the things that I do. 1050 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,440 Speaker 3: It just is I've got busy work, I'm doing this. 1051 00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:05,799 Speaker 3: I'm doing this exactly, and I think we it's not 1052 00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:07,680 Speaker 3: And even with peacos, we're told Okay, I have to 1053 00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,760 Speaker 3: go on the pill, but we're not really told how 1054 00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,600 Speaker 3: to solve the root issue, and we don't think it's 1055 00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:15,680 Speaker 3: in our hands because don't. 1056 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,800 Speaker 1: Even think that it's possible. Right, So, even for diabetes, 1057 00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,000 Speaker 1: I have so many remissions of type to diabetes and 1058 00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:22,920 Speaker 1: my readers and they go to the doctor. The doctor's like, 1059 00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,040 Speaker 1: what did you do? They're like, well, I changed the 1060 00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,720 Speaker 1: way I was eating, and they cannot believe their eyes. 1061 00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,280 Speaker 3: And it makes totals that if you actually think about 1062 00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,520 Speaker 3: it and what we were saying before, there are so 1063 00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,680 Speaker 3: many things we can add to our body externality, like 1064 00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,960 Speaker 3: the supplements and the medications and all that. And obviously 1065 00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,560 Speaker 3: if you need medication for a condition, that makes sense. 1066 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:47,759 Speaker 3: But before we do anything, realizing that what's on our 1067 00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:49,680 Speaker 3: plate and the thing we fuel ourselves with the most 1068 00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,839 Speaker 3: throughout the day, how much impact. Of course, it has 1069 00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:54,560 Speaker 3: that much impact because we eat so much of it, Like, 1070 00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,240 Speaker 3: there's so much going into our body by our own choice. 1071 00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:01,160 Speaker 3: The medication is a small part of it. The supplements 1072 00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,520 Speaker 3: are actually a small part of it. The majority of 1073 00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,080 Speaker 3: what we're doing is going in through our body by 1074 00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,560 Speaker 3: our choice, and what we see and what we decide 1075 00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:09,520 Speaker 3: to fuel ourselves with. 1076 00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:10,760 Speaker 2: And so I think education. 1077 00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,200 Speaker 3: I love that you're pushing for that in the government 1078 00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,799 Speaker 3: and everything, because I think education is the biggest part 1079 00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,439 Speaker 3: to all of this is just awareness because many people 1080 00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:20,000 Speaker 3: don't have that from a young age. They're not reading 1081 00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:23,200 Speaker 3: the right books, they're not they don't have the right teachers, 1082 00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,480 Speaker 3: they're maybe not being taught it at school. 1083 00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:28,560 Speaker 1: And so there's so much money in the food industry, 1084 00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,480 Speaker 1: I know, and they're pushing different messaging. They have a 1085 00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:33,400 Speaker 1: big budget, and they have all the celebrities, and they 1086 00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:36,399 Speaker 1: have the cartoons in the cereal boxes. You know, we're 1087 00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,320 Speaker 1: up against goliath. 1088 00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,200 Speaker 3: And it is hard because you're told every other day 1089 00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:42,839 Speaker 3: that something else is good for you. And I think 1090 00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:47,160 Speaker 3: that's the confusion. There is just overstimulation and an excess 1091 00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:52,200 Speaker 3: amount of information now, especially on social media. Experts not experts, 1092 00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:55,920 Speaker 3: you know, people who've tried stuff, haven't tried things. Everything 1093 00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,120 Speaker 3: is just so confusing that I can understand why someone 1094 00:50:58,120 --> 00:50:59,760 Speaker 3: would just be like, you know what, I am checking 1095 00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:01,600 Speaker 3: out this. I don't even I don't want to look 1096 00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:03,279 Speaker 3: after my help because I have no idea what I 1097 00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,200 Speaker 3: have to do, and so these simple things we just 1098 00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,120 Speaker 3: start reading a little bit, start changing small, small habits 1099 00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:10,960 Speaker 3: can make all the difference. 1100 00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:12,600 Speaker 1: And it's hard to know. My heart goes out to 1101 00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,640 Speaker 1: other people who are trying to be healthy and they 1102 00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,120 Speaker 1: just don't know when it's just so much information and stuff. 1103 00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,600 Speaker 1: But what I'm trying to offer is something that is 1104 00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,120 Speaker 1: rooted in the biochemistry and the physiology of your body. 1105 00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,200 Speaker 1: And it's not a fad. It's kind of common sense. 1106 00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,600 Speaker 2: Yes, that's what I love that it's actually all backed up. 1107 00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,440 Speaker 3: I love that you put your own, your own grafts 1108 00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,240 Speaker 3: in there too, because it's wonderful to see a personal experience. 1109 00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:35,360 Speaker 3: I think that helps people too. This person's actually done this, 1110 00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:37,040 Speaker 3: and I can see it's worked for them. Let me 1111 00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,839 Speaker 3: try it for myself to So I want to know. 1112 00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,520 Speaker 3: Is it an exception for women on their periods? Do 1113 00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:44,680 Speaker 3: we get like a whole pass to have as much 1114 00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:45,600 Speaker 3: chocolate as we want? 1115 00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:47,439 Speaker 2: I need to know? Is that? 1116 00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:52,400 Speaker 1: Yes? Always? Always. Sometimes I wake up on a Sunday 1117 00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,439 Speaker 1: and I want chocolate ice cream for breakfast, and girl, 1118 00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:55,840 Speaker 1: I will have it. 1119 00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,440 Speaker 2: But you'll have apple cider vinegar before that. 1120 00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:00,960 Speaker 1: Okay, Sometimes I even want I don't do hacks. I 1121 00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,800 Speaker 1: know it's crazy. But it's true. Okay, so before your period, 1122 00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,080 Speaker 1: something happens in your hormonal system and it kind of sucks. 1123 00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:09,240 Speaker 1: But basically, the week before your period, the same food 1124 00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,080 Speaker 1: that you would usually eat is going to create a 1125 00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,239 Speaker 1: bigger glucospike in your body. 1126 00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,160 Speaker 2: Crave it the most, then, yes. 1127 00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:18,480 Speaker 1: And big spike means big drop, means even more cravings. 1128 00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,000 Speaker 2: It's completely unfair all day on the first day of 1129 00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:21,400 Speaker 2: your period. 1130 00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,359 Speaker 1: It is completely unfair. Yeah, so what do we do 1131 00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,000 Speaker 1: before your period? Make sure you're using the hacks so 1132 00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:27,880 Speaker 1: that you can have the stuff you're craving with less 1133 00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,719 Speaker 1: impact on your glucose levels and less creation of that 1134 00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:32,239 Speaker 1: roller coaster for the rest of the day. 1135 00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:33,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, that makes sense. 1136 00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:37,640 Speaker 3: So have all the chocolate, but makes you're following these hacks. 1137 00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:38,760 Speaker 1: The side of vineger, put some clothing on the chocolate, 1138 00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:42,719 Speaker 1: have it as desserts instead of breakfast, move afterwards. 1139 00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,279 Speaker 3: It is crazy that we do feel those cravings so 1140 00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:46,880 Speaker 3: much more during that time. I guess it is that 1141 00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:48,080 Speaker 3: to do with a homemone levels. 1142 00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,720 Speaker 1: During absolutely, yeah, I mean it's crazy. 1143 00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:56,200 Speaker 3: It is sugar and dementia again. Another condition that has 1144 00:52:56,280 --> 00:53:00,640 Speaker 3: been dementia is just increasing so much so filling between 1145 00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,600 Speaker 3: sugar and our brain and how it functions and our commision. 1146 00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:04,479 Speaker 3: You said brain fog. 1147 00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,520 Speaker 1: But yeah, well, what you're eating is affecting your brain 1148 00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:09,319 Speaker 1: on so many levels, short term and long term. And 1149 00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:13,200 Speaker 1: the dementia thing is really interesting. It's an emerging field 1150 00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:17,200 Speaker 1: of research. But some scientists and are calling Alzheimer's type 1151 00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:20,640 Speaker 1: three diabetes no way, because they're seeing that in the 1152 00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:24,239 Speaker 1: brain of somebody with Alzheimer's disease, there are actually loads 1153 00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:27,799 Speaker 1: of things going on that resemble type of diabetes. So 1154 00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:32,880 Speaker 1: it's insulin resistance in your brain cells, it's inflammation, it's glycation, 1155 00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,200 Speaker 1: and so we're starting to understand that maybe Alzheimer's is 1156 00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,120 Speaker 1: actually what's called a metabolic disease. So disease has to 1157 00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:42,320 Speaker 1: do with how you're burning glucose and energy in your body. 1158 00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,799 Speaker 1: And you see this quite clearly. If somebody has high 1159 00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:48,239 Speaker 1: glucose levels in their thirties, they're much more likely to 1160 00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:51,520 Speaker 1: get Alzheimer's later on. Yeah, so if you want to 1161 00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:54,200 Speaker 1: help your brain long term, try to look at your 1162 00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:57,000 Speaker 1: glucose levels. And there's even small studies showing that when 1163 00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:00,520 Speaker 1: somebody has dementia, putting them on a diet that reduces 1164 00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:04,080 Speaker 1: significantly how many carbs are eating actually improves the condition. 1165 00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,360 Speaker 3: Fascinating it is, and I think I think about this 1166 00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,440 Speaker 3: a lot since I hit my thirties. That and I 1167 00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:10,960 Speaker 3: keep saying this to my friends, and like, what we 1168 00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,719 Speaker 3: do in our thirties, how we change our diet and 1169 00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:17,440 Speaker 3: our lifestyle, we are going to reap the benefits or 1170 00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:22,080 Speaker 3: cry over the negatives in our forties, fifties, sixties, seventies, eighties. 1171 00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:24,080 Speaker 1: Now even if you're eighty years old, it's not too late. 1172 00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:25,480 Speaker 2: No, it's not too late change. 1173 00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:28,480 Speaker 3: But I am noticing that that feeling of what I 1174 00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:30,719 Speaker 3: do now, I'm noticing like what I did in my 1175 00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,760 Speaker 3: twenties affecting my thirties. What I'm doing in my thirties 1176 00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,240 Speaker 3: is going to determine how I'm able to move, function 1177 00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:40,120 Speaker 3: and live an optimal life in the future. And I 1178 00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,040 Speaker 3: think that's also a beautiful thing to feel that what 1179 00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,520 Speaker 3: I'm doing now, It's like we talk about generations, right, 1180 00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:46,520 Speaker 3: what we do now, what we're doing in the world, 1181 00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:48,879 Speaker 3: is going to impact the generations later. 1182 00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:49,520 Speaker 2: And that's the same. 1183 00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,200 Speaker 3: The versions of us in the future are going to 1184 00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:55,600 Speaker 3: thank us so much for making small changes now. But 1185 00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:57,520 Speaker 3: I've noticed that a lot more in my thirties. I'm like, oh, dad, 1186 00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:58,760 Speaker 3: weally have to do that in my twenties. 1187 00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,960 Speaker 1: That also, my twenties are so rough. I'm like, oh, 1188 00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:05,279 Speaker 1: poor Jesse in her twenties. Yeah, tough decade. You don't 1189 00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,239 Speaker 1: know what the heck you're doing. It's confusing. 1190 00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:08,400 Speaker 2: It's a different era. 1191 00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:14,799 Speaker 3: Anxiety and sugar, because I think that I'd say we 1192 00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:19,680 Speaker 3: have chronic anxiety in our generation now. Everything makes us 1193 00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:24,520 Speaker 3: feel anxious and it there's something about trying to prevent 1194 00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,319 Speaker 3: it but also being in control of it. And I 1195 00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:30,080 Speaker 3: think sugar has such a deep impact on that that 1196 00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:31,359 Speaker 3: we don't realize. Well. 1197 00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:33,880 Speaker 1: The studies show us that if you have anxiety or depression, 1198 00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,000 Speaker 1: eating in a way that creates lots of gluco spikes 1199 00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,759 Speaker 1: will make the symptoms worse. Right, it's not the only cause, 1200 00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:40,360 Speaker 1: but it can make it worse. And the problem is, 1201 00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:43,799 Speaker 1: if you're anxious, you might actually want to eat a 1202 00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,160 Speaker 1: lot of sugar to get that dopamine and feel better. 1203 00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:48,640 Speaker 1: So you're a little bit in a vicious cycle where 1204 00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,040 Speaker 1: the sugar is making you feel worse, but then you 1205 00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,560 Speaker 1: want more because you don't feel wrong. So I mean, 1206 00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:56,480 Speaker 1: mental health is super multifaceted, but of course using the 1207 00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:59,040 Speaker 1: hacks and giving your body and your brain that baseline 1208 00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:02,279 Speaker 1: of steadiness, that's how I got back to health. The 1209 00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:06,120 Speaker 1: glucose hacks were the foundation in the house of my health, 1210 00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:07,759 Speaker 1: and then I was able to layer on top of 1211 00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:12,200 Speaker 1: it therapy, EMDR, emotional processing, movement, et cetera, et cetera. 1212 00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:15,400 Speaker 1: But having that solid foundation where I felt like I 1213 00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:19,440 Speaker 1: was fueling my body in the best possible way. It's 1214 00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:22,000 Speaker 1: actually it's really gratifying. 1215 00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:24,520 Speaker 3: It is, and it changes your mindset to what you 1216 00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:27,279 Speaker 3: think you want versus what you actually need. And I've 1217 00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:30,279 Speaker 3: noticed that for myself, where you know, if I am 1218 00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:33,080 Speaker 3: craving something, I think to myself like, how is this 1219 00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:36,359 Speaker 3: going to make me feel tomorrow? How is this going 1220 00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:38,400 Speaker 3: to make me feel in a couple of hours? And 1221 00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:40,560 Speaker 3: so instead, even if I don't want even if I'm 1222 00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:41,800 Speaker 3: thinking I want to go out and I want to 1223 00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:45,839 Speaker 3: eat this, what stops me is having had that experience 1224 00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:48,000 Speaker 3: of not having had it and how good it makes 1225 00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:49,799 Speaker 3: me feel, and that muscle. 1226 00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:50,680 Speaker 1: Memory of that restaurant. 1227 00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:52,920 Speaker 3: And so no, I mean, it doesn't happen all the time, 1228 00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,040 Speaker 3: but to be able to create habits. I think you 1229 00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:57,640 Speaker 3: have to create a positive association to the foods that 1230 00:56:57,680 --> 00:56:59,799 Speaker 3: are good for you because we're so used to it 1231 00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:01,560 Speaker 3: thinking that healthy. 1232 00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:04,120 Speaker 2: Food is diet food. Oh yeah, you know in this culture. 1233 00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:07,920 Speaker 3: Everything Like I feel, in our culture, it's like healthy 1234 00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:11,600 Speaker 3: food is diet food. When you're eating healthy it's like 1235 00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:14,600 Speaker 3: for a short period of time, it's like you're eating vegetables, 1236 00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,360 Speaker 3: which means you're on a diet. You're eating really I 1237 00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,160 Speaker 3: do think a lot of a lot of our culture 1238 00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:24,200 Speaker 3: does go towards that where healthy food is seen as 1239 00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:27,680 Speaker 3: diet food, and I think that's terrible. And so to 1240 00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,600 Speaker 3: really create a positive association with the food that positively 1241 00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,760 Speaker 3: impacts our body, it can take training in time. 1242 00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:35,920 Speaker 1: And maybe it's just a matter of learning some easy 1243 00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:37,520 Speaker 1: recipes that you really enjoy cooking. 1244 00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:39,880 Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, totally. 1245 00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:41,720 Speaker 1: Things. 1246 00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,160 Speaker 2: What have I written here? I've got so many questions 1247 00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:44,280 Speaker 2: with me. 1248 00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:45,400 Speaker 3: By the way, guys, this is going to be This 1249 00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:46,920 Speaker 3: is such a Q and A because I had so 1250 00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:49,720 Speaker 3: many things to ask about everything. But I want to 1251 00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:51,720 Speaker 3: go straight to Oh, I wanted to ask you what 1252 00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:55,000 Speaker 3: were your most surprising foods that you that you ended 1253 00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:58,280 Speaker 3: up testing that you didn't expect to be as bad 1254 00:57:58,280 --> 00:57:58,760 Speaker 3: as they were. 1255 00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:01,080 Speaker 1: Grapes. 1256 00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:02,560 Speaker 2: Grapes. 1257 00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:04,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not saying don't eat grapes. I'm just saying 1258 00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:08,600 Speaker 1: they have been humanly engineered to be little balls of sugar, 1259 00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:12,680 Speaker 1: juicy pockets of sugar, and they're actually very sweet. But 1260 00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:15,320 Speaker 1: you know, have grapes. They're whole fruits. Whole fruit. They're fine, 1261 00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,040 Speaker 1: But I was pretty sharck grape. 1262 00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:19,440 Speaker 2: Okay, these are my fast round. 1263 00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:22,560 Speaker 3: Okay, we're gonna go through, and you can have one 1264 00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,480 Speaker 3: word or a sentence for this answer. Have you seen 1265 00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:26,840 Speaker 3: the craze of freezing bread? 1266 00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:28,240 Speaker 1: I think I started it? 1267 00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:31,000 Speaker 2: Oh you start? You started it? Okay, great, So is 1268 00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:33,760 Speaker 2: it true freezing bread does? 1269 00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:36,640 Speaker 1: What? Okay? So when you cook a starch and then 1270 00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:38,840 Speaker 1: you cool it down or you freeze it, some of 1271 00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:41,520 Speaker 1: the starch in there is going to turn to fiber. 1272 00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:45,160 Speaker 1: It's going to turn to what's called resistance starch. And 1273 00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:47,680 Speaker 1: then if you more back up, you can eat that 1274 00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:49,800 Speaker 1: car with less impact on glucose because some of it 1275 00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:51,919 Speaker 1: has become fiber. Now, don't do this all the time. 1276 00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:55,360 Speaker 1: It's just cool scientifically. Don't become obsessed with freezing your starches. 1277 00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:57,960 Speaker 1: But I saw this article come out. I was like, huh, 1278 00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:00,360 Speaker 1: I think you could trace this back to Instagram post 1279 00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,600 Speaker 1: of mine from about a year ago. 1280 00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:04,000 Speaker 2: This, Yeah, I'm I go. Have you heard of it? 1281 00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:06,080 Speaker 2: Just that girl I started it? 1282 00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:06,920 Speaker 1: I have not heard of it. 1283 00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:10,919 Speaker 3: I started it. Best bread to consume, the best bread 1284 00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:11,720 Speaker 3: to consume for us? 1285 00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:15,560 Speaker 1: Rye bread or sourdough, do your own bread. 1286 00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:17,440 Speaker 2: I you know what this is. 1287 00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:19,600 Speaker 3: This year one of my goals was to make a 1288 00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:22,160 Speaker 3: whole bread series where I'm just experimenting with bread. So 1289 00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:23,959 Speaker 3: next time you come over, I'll have a fresh bread 1290 00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:26,200 Speaker 3: in the oven for you, but not a bun in 1291 00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:27,600 Speaker 3: my oven, just buning. 1292 00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,400 Speaker 2: Oats. I'm just gonna say one word. Do you have 1293 00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:32,760 Speaker 2: to tell me your reaction? Oats? 1294 00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:38,560 Speaker 1: Ah? 1295 00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:39,520 Speaker 2: The best thing? 1296 00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:43,520 Speaker 3: You know, the porridge and oatmeal and granola, all these 1297 00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:44,960 Speaker 3: things told us so good for us. 1298 00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:49,400 Speaker 1: Just the taste, Yeah, they're there, free taste, they definite taste. 1299 00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:52,120 Speaker 1: That's what should have been the word fore taste for taste. 1300 00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:56,360 Speaker 1: Best milk options like what would you recommend and sweeten 1301 00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:57,479 Speaker 1: nut milk or whole milk? 1302 00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:01,560 Speaker 3: Best and worst grain to consume, if there is one, 1303 01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:05,720 Speaker 3: I think they're all the same. Great, Okay, great, calorie 1304 01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:12,200 Speaker 3: counting stupid okay, best okay for people who do want 1305 01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:14,400 Speaker 3: to snack between their meals, because you know, sometimes people 1306 01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:16,440 Speaker 3: do get hungry and they want a little snack. Best 1307 01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:18,480 Speaker 3: you're your top three snack options. 1308 01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:23,000 Speaker 1: Banana with almond butter, Oh, banana, Yeah, a toast with 1309 01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:27,240 Speaker 1: some avocado, soft boiled egg with sea salt, anything kind 1310 01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:29,720 Speaker 1: of savory ish, not too sweet. The fruit is okay 1311 01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:31,480 Speaker 1: if you're putting some clothing on it, like not. 1312 01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:37,320 Speaker 3: Butter, sweetness or unrefined sugars like coconut sugar, jaggery, maple syrup, 1313 01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:38,080 Speaker 3: all those sugars. 1314 01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:39,080 Speaker 2: Are they all the same? 1315 01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:42,560 Speaker 1: Yes, they're all the same. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Yeah, 1316 01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:45,800 Speaker 1: maple syrup, agave, white sugar, brown sugar, they're just the 1317 01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:48,479 Speaker 1: same molecules. It's just marketing. Yeah, so it's not because 1318 01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:52,000 Speaker 1: the cake says, you know, made with coconut sugar. Bullshit, girl, 1319 01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:55,160 Speaker 1: it's bullshit. It's all the same. I know. 1320 01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,040 Speaker 3: You can ease, so instead of coconut sugar and marispee, 1321 01:00:58,080 --> 01:00:59,280 Speaker 3: you can just use white sugar. 1322 01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:00,800 Speaker 2: You can spend the money. 1323 01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:04,080 Speaker 1: Maybe it makes you feel more fancy. It's just sugar. 1324 01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:07,840 Speaker 1: So have the one you like. Have the one you like. 1325 01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:11,840 Speaker 2: Okay, this is a good French fries or jack a potatia. 1326 01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:14,840 Speaker 2: Because if you think about coating your calves, you coat 1327 01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:17,200 Speaker 2: them and you deep fry them, does it make it 1328 01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:18,320 Speaker 2: better for your glucose spike? 1329 01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:21,360 Speaker 1: No, because the deep frying actually creates trans fats, which 1330 01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:22,080 Speaker 1: are really bad for you. 1331 01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:24,960 Speaker 2: Oh damn, I was really counting on. 1332 01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:26,720 Speaker 1: That's a good one. That's a good one. 1333 01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:28,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, brown rice. 1334 01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:31,160 Speaker 1: Or white rice, whatever you want both say. 1335 01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:34,200 Speaker 2: There is so much out there about brown, but the 1336 01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:35,520 Speaker 2: brown rice and fiber. 1337 01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:38,280 Speaker 1: There's like one more fiber. It doesn't make a difference, 1338 01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:40,120 Speaker 1: you know, it makes a fiber adds some broccoli in there. 1339 01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:47,760 Speaker 2: Smoothie or milkshake? Ooh, I know you. 1340 01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:49,800 Speaker 3: I know what you say, fruit SMOOTHI I should say 1341 01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:53,200 Speaker 3: fruit smoothie or milkshake smooth or McDonald's milkshake. 1342 01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:59,600 Speaker 1: Oh that's a good one. Okay, Well, oh god, I 1343 01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:05,160 Speaker 1: know maybe okay, I'm going to be like really controversial and. 1344 01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,200 Speaker 3: Say milkshait to know why, you're gonna have to read 1345 01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:09,080 Speaker 3: her book. But that is controversial. But I knew you 1346 01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:12,000 Speaker 3: would say that orange juice or coke. 1347 01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:16,840 Speaker 1: We're kind of coke, normal coke oh, whatever you want. 1348 01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:17,960 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 1349 01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:20,400 Speaker 1: See if you had I said orange juice or diet coke, 1350 01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:21,320 Speaker 1: iuter said diet coke. 1351 01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:23,280 Speaker 2: But orange juice and coke get orange shames. 1352 01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:26,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you could. It's the same amount of sugar. 1353 01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:28,120 Speaker 1: You could say, yeah, that orange juice has some vitamins, 1354 01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:31,800 Speaker 1: but honestly it's like very little. But orange juice versus 1355 01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:34,560 Speaker 1: diet coke diet coke. I know, I know, I know, 1356 01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:36,120 Speaker 1: I know, guys, it's crazy. 1357 01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:37,680 Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you. 1358 01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:39,640 Speaker 1: Ran for having me such a joy. 1359 01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:42,479 Speaker 3: Amy bombard you with all the questions that I had. 1360 01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:45,080 Speaker 3: And I that this helps people, and I know it well. 1361 01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:46,800 Speaker 3: I mean reading the book has changed my life and 1362 01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:49,280 Speaker 3: many people's in my life, and I hope that this 1363 01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:51,800 Speaker 3: does the same for you in so many different ways. 1364 01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:54,280 Speaker 3: And if it does, please message Jessie and tell her 1365 01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:56,640 Speaker 3: all the one off things that you have felt like 1366 01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:58,040 Speaker 3: I did. I sent her a voice now, I was. 1367 01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:00,320 Speaker 2: Like you, I just love your book. I just binge 1368 01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:04,000 Speaker 2: watched Binge read it, and I love you so thank 1369 01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:05,360 Speaker 2: you all the work that you're doing. 1370 01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:07,440 Speaker 3: I'm so excited for whatever your book three ends up 1371 01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:09,560 Speaker 3: being and whatever else you have coming out in your 1372 01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:12,560 Speaker 3: life and thank you for coming on here, thank you 1373 01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:16,160 Speaker 3: so much for having me, M