Speaker 1: Welcome to Reality with the King.
Speaker 2: It's me Carlos King, the King of Reality TV and
Speaker 2: one of the most sought after executive producers in reality
Speaker 2: television with over ten years of production experience. I'm executive
Speaker 2: produced top rated programs such as eight seasons of the
Speaker 2: Real Housewives of Atlanta. Additionally, I have created shows such
Speaker 2: as Netflix Is Styling, Hollywood Owns number one rated Love
Speaker 2: and Marriage Franchise, and TV one's Hollywood Divas, just.
Speaker 1: To name a few.
Speaker 2: So y'all know I have many jobs, child, Okay, just
Speaker 2: saying so.
Speaker 1: Look.
Speaker 2: Starting in May, new episodes of Reality with the King
Speaker 2: will air once a week on Wednesdays. We'll resume airing
Speaker 2: twice a week in June. In the meantime, make sure
Speaker 2: you catch my new late night talk show, The Night
Speaker 2: Cap Mac Carlos King on the Oprah Winfrey Network every
Speaker 2: Saturday night starting May fourteenth, immediately following Love and Marriage DC. Hey, y'all, so,
Speaker 2: today's guest on Reality with the King is one of
Speaker 2: my dearest friends, Charae Whitfield.
Speaker 1: Yes, come on, Boat Collector.
Speaker 2: Of course, when I learned that Charae Whitfield was coming
Speaker 2: back again on the Real Housewives, of Atlanta season fourteen.
Speaker 2: Y'all know, I have to call my girl and say, look, honey,
Speaker 2: I need you and I to keep key it up
Speaker 2: on the podcast, And without even thinking, Charay said yes
Speaker 2: immediately because low Ki, some of these other girls haven't
Speaker 2: text me back yet. But we'll get to that later anyway.
Speaker 2: I love me some.
Speaker 1: Charae.
Speaker 2: We both started The Real Housewives of Atlanta in two
Speaker 2: thousand and eight together season one.
Speaker 1: I was so obsessed with her when I met her.
Speaker 2: And what's crazy is she and I did not become
Speaker 2: close tail season two because season one I had to
Speaker 2: deal with Ninny Leaks and Deshaun Snow, but I always
Speaker 2: kept my eye on the boss bitch, Charae.
Speaker 1: Come on, Charay, listen.
Speaker 2: I am super excited about her return to the Real
Speaker 2: Housewists of Atlanta season fourteen. I think Charay is super underrated.
Speaker 2: I don't think you guys give Charay her flowers as
Speaker 2: much as y'all need to, because she is definitely part
Speaker 2: of the reason why The Real Housewives of Atlanta is
Speaker 2: the juggernaut that it is today. Now let's get into
Speaker 2: my conversationation with the bunk collector herself, Charay with Phil,
Speaker 2: y'all need.
Speaker 1: To know the backstory of me and Charae. So, as
Speaker 1: you all know, I was.
Speaker 2: A producer starting season one of Atlanta Housewives. I was
Speaker 2: an associated producer, so when you are an associated producer,
Speaker 2: you're as signed housewives. So season one, I was assigned
Speaker 2: Niani and Deshaun Snow and another producer has Charae. I
Speaker 2: would watch Charae scenes and be like, this bitch is
Speaker 2: so fucking fabulous.
Speaker 1: She is everything.
Speaker 2: And I was like, I want to play with Charae too,
Speaker 2: and your producer named Corey was like, no, bitch, she's mine.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 4: And Corey and I are still fans to this day too,
Speaker 4: still friends.
Speaker 2: Yep, Yes, Corey is a sweetheart. He's he's a good guy.
Speaker 2: Corey was like, Carlos, you got Niini and DeShawn Snow.
Speaker 2: I got Scharay and I was like, I want to
Speaker 2: feature that action. So the season two I was still there.
Speaker 2: Sorry Corey, and then chara because.
Speaker 4: Crazy.
Speaker 3: I never knew this story.
Speaker 1: I never knew this story.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 2: Me and Corey was fighting over Charay and I was
Speaker 2: just like, she's everything.
Speaker 1: I knew you were that girl.
Speaker 2: The first week of filming at your birthday party.
Speaker 4: Well, I got the party started, didn't I.
Speaker 1: I mean you're the reason for the season, Mama. I
Speaker 1: mean you're the reason why we.
Speaker 2: Got a second, third, fourty six some eighth episode because
Speaker 2: Scharay had a party and Nini Leek's name was not
Speaker 2: on the list.
Speaker 1: And I never asked you this question.
Speaker 3: What's the question, Chara?
Speaker 2: It has been fourteen years and bitch, I need to know,
Speaker 2: did you purposely leave Nini's name off the list?
Speaker 3: Listen?
Speaker 4: It was my birthday party. Nannie and I had not
Speaker 4: been in a good space. We had been fighting before that,
Speaker 4: so we we were good before and it's so crazy
Speaker 4: that when we get ready to do the show, we
Speaker 4: kind of had a falling out because she got mad
Speaker 4: at me because I couldn't get her into a party. Well, bitch,
Speaker 4: I didn't get you into a thousand parties, but I
Speaker 4: can't get you into this party. So she got mad
Speaker 4: at me, and so that was the falling out of
Speaker 4: us because we were good before that.
Speaker 3: So when the show starts, I'm feeling at tension.
Speaker 4: And because we had a meeting and it got really
Speaker 4: bad between me and I and this restaurant we were
Speaker 4: at was a clubhouse at Lennox Mall. It got really bad,
Speaker 4: like she and I almost got into a like an
Speaker 4: altercation at a restaurant, and I'm like, what the hell,
Speaker 4: So this is my birthday party. I called one of
Speaker 4: my girlfriends who was also a producer or whatever, and
Speaker 4: I'm telling her because they wanted me to invite her
Speaker 4: into my home.
Speaker 3: And she's like, and I'm like, this is my home.
Speaker 3: I don't want no bad energy. I don't want no
Speaker 3: bad you know, none of that.
Speaker 4: So I don't want to really invite her because we're
Speaker 4: not free right now, we're not getting along. And she
Speaker 4: she was like, well, shit, it's your home. I wouldn't
Speaker 4: bring no I understand what you're saying. I wouldn't bring
Speaker 4: no bad energy in there either. So the guest list was.
Speaker 1: What it was. We got that closed up.
Speaker 3: That is the first time I have really you know what.
Speaker 4: People don't really ask me that they just talk about,
Speaker 4: you know that she wasn't on the list I had.
Speaker 3: The people on the list were.
Speaker 4: The people on the list. Those are the people who
Speaker 4: were supposed to get in. Don't let nobody in who
Speaker 4: is not on my list.
Speaker 2: Fourteen years, not one person has ever asked Sharay that question.
Speaker 2: I always suspected that, and this is the reason why
Speaker 2: I wanted to bring it up. Charae is the reason
Speaker 2: episode one got started. And I always felt not because
Speaker 2: we're friends. I always felt that people underestimate you and
Speaker 2: that you don't get the props you deserve for being
Speaker 2: part of the reason Atlanta Housewives is successful.
Speaker 1: They love to give it to Nini and let the
Speaker 1: Nini's great and an iconic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, great too. They love to give it to Kim
Speaker 2: Zosiak and Kim it's great too. Every once in a
Speaker 2: while they'll say your name or not. It bothers me.
Speaker 2: Real talk, Do you feel like you don't get enough
Speaker 2: credit for what Atlanta Housewives is today?
Speaker 3: Absolutely? I totally feel that.
Speaker 4: I think that, you know, people feel like, like you
Speaker 4: said that it's the ninies and the Kims, maybe because
Speaker 4: they're a little more uh loud about it. But I mean,
Speaker 4: let's be clear, I have probably more iconic moments than
Speaker 4: a lot of them probably put together.
Speaker 1: She rename some Oh no, I'll name them. Who gonna
Speaker 1: check me? Boo?
Speaker 2: My joggers are coming out spring summer. Twirl on the
Speaker 2: motherfucking baseboard, bitch.
Speaker 1: I mean I didn't. I didn't. I didn't.
Speaker 2: I did implore her with I should did it a
Speaker 2: little bit. The bitch better get to running. I'm glad
Speaker 2: you fixed those doggy tea. Yes, I'm glad you fix
Speaker 2: those doggy tea.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 2: No, listen, I know that you are an icon a wordsmith,
Speaker 2: and I do agree with you just because you're not
Speaker 2: like the loudest person in the room. Baby, when Charai
Speaker 2: walks into a room, a force is behind her. It
Speaker 2: always bothered me because I look at I look at
Speaker 2: your legacy. You are really responsible for a lot of
Speaker 2: great moments. And that's why when I left the show
Speaker 2: and you left the show, and they were like, Carlos,
Speaker 2: can you come back to season eight? And I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I got all this other stuff going on. And then
Speaker 2: I was like, if I come back, me and Shark
Speaker 2: got to do this again because I just felt like,
Speaker 2: y'all just don't give this woman enough credit for what
Speaker 2: she's done. And you and I came back together at
Speaker 2: the same damn time, and Baby, you and Kenya on
Speaker 2: that rooftop party at Cynthia where you almost gave her
Speaker 2: a little little cocktail dress, meeting the cocktail being filled
Speaker 2: in a dress.
Speaker 1: Honey, Yes, I mean I think it's such a big icon.
Speaker 2: But tell me about your legacy on the show and
Speaker 2: how you feel that, Like you said, like you are
Speaker 2: truly one of the main reasons. And I'll go on
Speaker 2: record saying this, I don't care who gets mad, and
Speaker 2: this is no shade. Ninnie Kimi Cherat are the reasons
Speaker 2: why Atlanta Housewives is the number one show on Bravo.
Speaker 4: I agree, I agree absolutely. We started this and I
Speaker 4: mean we didn't have a blueprint. We didn't know what,
Speaker 4: you know, what we were getting into, and a lot
Speaker 4: of things have changed. But back then, we were authentic.
Speaker 4: We didn't know any better. We didn't know the makeup shit.
Speaker 4: We're thinking, this is our real lives. We signed up
Speaker 4: to do a reality show, and we're gonna be as
Speaker 4: real as we possibly be. You know. Yeah, you know
Speaker 4: what when they actually reached back out to me this time,
Speaker 4: I talked about the fact that everybody, because when I'm
Speaker 4: not on the show, I don't watch the show, but
Speaker 4: everybody who who have watched the show, of course they
Speaker 4: come to me and they tell me different things, and
Speaker 4: a lot of the things that they were saying is
Speaker 4: that it's too much fighting. Uh, the girls aren't friends,
Speaker 4: it's not authentic. The girls are you know, they're they're
Speaker 4: producing theirselves. Now, you can produce yourself in a good way.
Speaker 4: But it's when it's so obvious to the fans that you're,
Speaker 4: you know, pretending to bring in this person and this
Speaker 4: is your dating, you know, all these different things, it
Speaker 4: doesn't work and people don't want to see that. It
Speaker 4: needs to get back to what it was, where it
Speaker 4: was authentic, where this is our real life, completely transparent.
Speaker 4: And it's so funny when people and I hear people say, oh,
Speaker 4: she's been transparent, bitch, I've always been transparent. I'm probably
Speaker 4: one of the few who've always been transparent.
Speaker 3: Let's be let's be clear.
Speaker 4: I talked about stuff on this show that no one,
Speaker 4: even though they may be going.
Speaker 3: Through some things, don't want to talk about.
Speaker 4: And this ship that's not so pretty, you know, but
Speaker 4: I talked about it and I discussed it.
Speaker 3: And the one thing that I love.
Speaker 4: That I'm able to that I do that it's because
Speaker 4: I it's so many emails or so many messages saying people,
Speaker 4: you know, from people saying I can relate to that
Speaker 4: I was going through something similar. I'm talking about child support,
Speaker 4: I'm talking about divorce, I'm talking about even dating. You know,
Speaker 4: to this day, you know this season dating someone in prison?
Speaker 3: How about the only one. I'm not the only one.
Speaker 4: So it's a lot of things that you know, I
Speaker 4: went through in my personal life that I was open
Speaker 4: with sharing real shit. And I feel like a lot
Speaker 4: of these girls, they kind of change the narrative and
Speaker 4: it just didn't work.
Speaker 1: No, it doesn't.
Speaker 2: And it's funny because when you look at other Housewives
Speaker 2: shows and listen, this is no shade to Drusidora. I'm
Speaker 2: looking forward to seeing what she does season fourteen. But
Speaker 2: a lot of it to me is when these new
Speaker 2: girls come on The Housewives, you know they're coming on
Speaker 2: the stage that you built.
Speaker 1: You're a fucking construction worker.
Speaker 2: And what's interesting is you haven't shied the way from
Speaker 2: talking about your issues, like you said, dating somebody in prison,
Speaker 2: dealing a divorce, dealing with what it's like when you
Speaker 2: get a divorce and you have to figure out like, Okay,
Speaker 2: I have to step it up.
Speaker 1: As a single mom.
Speaker 2: I gotta I have to really be the sole provider
Speaker 2: for my children. I remember working with you and there
Speaker 2: were other people on the cast who were not being real,
Speaker 2: And one thing always appreciate about you is the fact
Speaker 2: that you were real. Yeah, because a lot of these girls,
Speaker 2: as you and I both know, they like to promote
Speaker 2: their businesses. They like to throw an event to show
Speaker 2: how fabulous they are. But when you ask them like, well,
Speaker 2: we're hearing this is happening, that's off limits.
Speaker 1: We're not talking about that. That's off limits.
Speaker 2: So yeah, Going into season fourteen, which debuts May first,
Speaker 2: what can you tell us about this season? Do you
Speaker 2: see a transformation because a lot of us stopped watching
Speaker 2: last season because it wasn't interesting because the girls were
Speaker 2: producing themselves and the girls weren't talking about real stuff.
Speaker 2: As you came back this season, have you seen a
Speaker 2: change in some of these women being more authentic.
Speaker 4: I mean yeah, I think some of the girls have
Speaker 4: been definitely authentic this season. They're you know, sharing their
Speaker 4: real stories. And also one thing is that it's almost
Speaker 4: like a sisterhood this season. We've never had that. Carlos,
Speaker 4: when we leave set, we're like, by bitch, douce this.
Speaker 4: You know, we don't talk, we don't hang.
Speaker 1: Out at all.
Speaker 3: No, So this season is different and they are telling
Speaker 3: their stories.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about Marlow. Marlow is a peach holder.
Speaker 3: He's a peach holder.
Speaker 1: You are a legend and obviously an og.
Speaker 2: So what do you think of Marlow being a peach
Speaker 2: holder and how has Marlow been this season?
Speaker 4: Marlow has been fabulous, She's been great. She's one of
Speaker 4: the ones who's definitely been very authentic, very transparent with
Speaker 4: you know, everything that she's going through, and I love
Speaker 4: that about her. So she's going to give you shit
Speaker 4: and she's also going to give you funny and I
Speaker 4: think that her getting this peach, which everybody always said,
Speaker 4: oh Marlos never getting a peach.
Speaker 1: Mark.
Speaker 4: You know, these girls have petition against her, some of
Speaker 4: the ones she thinks thinks were her friends petition against
Speaker 4: her not to get a peach.
Speaker 3: So she got her peach and she is well deserved,
Speaker 3: well deserved.
Speaker 4: I mean it was what ten years, eleven years that
Speaker 4: you know, ten or eleven years, and you know she's
Speaker 4: proven herself.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, it's funny because I've been around the girls. It's
Speaker 2: not easy being a friend to the show because when
Speaker 2: you are a peach holder, the peach holders.
Speaker 1: Would throw shade at a friend to the show.
Speaker 2: Yes, they will call you peachless. They will say you've
Speaker 2: been impeach they will say I'm not giving you nothing.
Speaker 1: You're not a housewife like Jaray.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about it bit like, let the girls know
Speaker 2: when you are a friend to the show, these girls
Speaker 2: don't respect you the same.
Speaker 3: They do not.
Speaker 4: And we had a similar situation this season with one
Speaker 4: of my friends that came onto the show, and yeah,
Speaker 4: I did not appreciate or like how she was treated
Speaker 4: on there. Well, just one person in particular.
Speaker 1: A peach holder.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and how did she navigate through that? Was she
Speaker 2: able to defend herself?
Speaker 3: No, that's the thing.
Speaker 4: You're not able to defend yourself because you know, either
Speaker 4: they can't tape anymore, so the peachholder is able to
Speaker 4: go into her interviews and you know, kind of read
Speaker 4: the shit out of somebody, even in scenes read and.
Speaker 3: You don't get to defend yourself. And that's not fair.
Speaker 4: And she all she wanted to do was defend herself,
Speaker 4: but didn't happen. Couldn't happen.
Speaker 2: And that's why Marlowe's peach is so well deserved.
Speaker 1: Because girl Marlow's behaving on for a long.
Speaker 2: She'd like this one day one day, But look, I
Speaker 2: heard Marlowe is reading the girls down.
Speaker 4: Down, you know, marlow or but she always said, I
Speaker 4: don't know how to read.
Speaker 3: I don't know how to read, so I just hit
Speaker 3: below the belt. Now that bitch is good at hitting.
Speaker 4: Below the belt, Carlos and some of those scenes, I'm
Speaker 4: sitting here like, oh my god, like, don't I don't
Speaker 4: know what.
Speaker 3: To do, what to say?
Speaker 4: It gets uh glee ugly Now that it does. And
Speaker 4: that was one thing back in the day, like even
Speaker 4: though you know, Nita and I didn't get along or whatever,
Speaker 4: I still knew a lot of a lot of information
Speaker 4: about her, And still to this day I still do.
Speaker 4: We never went we never hit below the belt like that,
Speaker 4: you know what, you know, we never did that. These
Speaker 4: girls are going so low, they going for the juggler,
Speaker 4: They trying to they cut into the white meat.
Speaker 2: So wait is it marlow in addition to other women
Speaker 2: on the show, I mean, but if.
Speaker 3: Somebody cut you to the white meat, ain't you gonna
Speaker 3: try to cut back?
Speaker 2: I heard that Marlowe has a hard off for Candy,
Speaker 2: that she is reading Candy for filth.
Speaker 4: She she definitely read Candy, but can't listen. Candy came back.
Speaker 3: They were both. I was surprised. I was surprised.
Speaker 4: They both started hitting so below the belt and I'm
Speaker 4: sitting in the middle, Carloss, I'm.
Speaker 3: Like, I couldn't do anything.
Speaker 4: First of all, I was entertaining, like fuck, I felt
Speaker 4: like I was a f're right in that moment, But
Speaker 4: it got so ugly, so low, so low, so low.
Speaker 4: I can't even imagine what they're going to cut out
Speaker 4: because it was so much shit being said, so much
Speaker 4: shit below the belt.
Speaker 1: Yes, are you collecting any bones this season?
Speaker 2: Or are you too busy laughing at these beefs that's happening.
Speaker 3: I'm kind of I'm.
Speaker 4: Not really the bone collector this season. I'm pretty I'm
Speaker 4: pretty good with most of the pretty much everybody. I'm
Speaker 4: good with everybody.
Speaker 2: Stay tuned or more of my conversation with Charay, which
Speaker 2: Field will be right back after some quick ads. This
Speaker 2: is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King. Let's
Speaker 2: get back into my conversation with Shara. I want to
Speaker 2: thank you for inviting me to Siva Charai. I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna give anything away. I'm not gonna say a word.
Speaker 2: All I'm gonna say is you called me. I only
Speaker 2: will ever show up for you.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Now you're trying to make me cry.
Speaker 1: It's the truth.
Speaker 3: You're gonna make me cry. Now. Let me tell you.
Speaker 4: That meant so much to me for you to take
Speaker 4: time out of your schedule. I know you got so
Speaker 4: much going on. I know everybody is always pulling at you.
Speaker 4: Everybody wants Carlos king come to show up. Carlos, you
Speaker 4: showed up in a big way when it mattered, and
Speaker 4: that's the most important thing ever, and that meant the
Speaker 4: world to me. And I need to tell you that,
Speaker 4: if I haven't already, I love you. I appreciate that
Speaker 4: you flew here. It was bitches here that I thought
Speaker 4: there should have been. It should have been there, and
Speaker 4: I was really really bothered by that because I really
Speaker 4: I had been. I don't want to say no names,
Speaker 4: but somebody who was there from season one as well,
Speaker 4: and they were there from the beginning, Like I thought,
Speaker 4: it was so important that the people that I really
Speaker 4: cared about that saw this from the beginning to be
Speaker 4: there and support me because I supported all these bitches
Speaker 4: throughout these years, you know what I'm saying, So for
Speaker 4: me to finally get it, and I'm talking to this
Speaker 4: one particular person and they're like, we're coming, you know,
Speaker 4: da da da, and did not show up, have not called,
Speaker 4: have not said a word. And that was really hurtful.
Speaker 4: That was really really hurtful. You can guess if you won't,
Speaker 4: but I'm not telling.
Speaker 2: You it's okay, No, not Lisa.
Speaker 4: And it wasn't Lisa. I love Lisa down. Lisa was
Speaker 4: in LA for Super Bowl with her son. It wasn't Lisa.
Speaker 2: Lisa Wu made an appearance this upcoming season. We see
Speaker 2: her in the super trailer. Yes, what is Lisa Wo
Speaker 2: up to with you?
Speaker 1: Charay?
Speaker 4: You know that's my girl, that's my girl. Me and Lisa,
Speaker 4: we still ride, we still hang out, We still key
Speaker 4: key have a good old time together. So I was
Speaker 4: having something at my house and of course I wanted
Speaker 4: to invite my girlfriend.
Speaker 3: So Lisa came in and did what Lisa did.
Speaker 2: Did Lisa Woo read somebody?
Speaker 4: She did what Lisa does? She said, put some respect
Speaker 4: on my name.
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, Lisa Wu made a comeback this season
Speaker 2: because of you, obviously, because you two are real friends
Speaker 2: in real.
Speaker 1: Life, y'all hang out all the time. Yeah, no cameras,
Speaker 1: y'all are real friend Yeah.
Speaker 2: So did someone tried to stunt on Lisa Wu and
Speaker 2: she checked?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Lisa who had to check them? She had a chekho bitch.
Speaker 4: She came back looking amazing and just she like, don't
Speaker 4: play with me. You already know you talk about I fight.
Speaker 4: That's Lisa Wo.
Speaker 1: Lisa Woo would kick ass.
Speaker 2: She sure will Ooh the wait is Lisa will on
Speaker 2: more than one scene? Is there multiple scenes with Lisa
Speaker 2: Woo's that won and done?
Speaker 1: Can't you not tell me what's tea?
Speaker 3: You know? I can't tell you. Oh, I can't tell you?
Speaker 1: How are you? And Kim Zoziak right now?
Speaker 3: We're good? I'll say it was.
Speaker 4: It was actually Kim, you are You're right? And I
Speaker 4: really really felt like because I've been talking to her
Speaker 4: and she's like, oh my gosh, I know this is
Speaker 4: so important to you. Now.
Speaker 3: This is the thing.
Speaker 4: When I'm not on Housewives, I'm like you, I get
Speaker 4: invited to a lot of these events and let a
Speaker 4: lot of times most times I don't go. But when
Speaker 4: it's something that matters that you know, I don't care,
Speaker 4: because you know these girls want to get paid. I
Speaker 4: showed up to cynthia a wedding because it mattered.
Speaker 3: Those are the things.
Speaker 4: That are important to me that I know that are
Speaker 4: important to you. And it's bigger than Okay, what can
Speaker 4: I get for showing up? Because I feel like you're
Speaker 4: my friend, So I'm gonna do this for my friend,
Speaker 4: and I felt like she should have showed up for me.
Speaker 1: Oh, one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: You showed up to Candy's wedding without getting paid. You
Speaker 2: show up to a lot of Kim Zozier had a spinoff,
Speaker 2: Don't be Tardy. You showed up to her cosmetics launch
Speaker 2: without getting paid, because that shows real friendship. So it
Speaker 2: is disappointing to hear that Kim did not show up.
Speaker 2: Because what you and I both know is this, When
Speaker 2: a housewife leaves a show, and let's say next year,
Speaker 2: the year after that, whatever, a real friend asked them
Speaker 2: to come to their events, ten times out of ten
Speaker 2: a housewife would try to negotiate money to come back
Speaker 2: because she feels like, well, y'all gonna use my appearance
Speaker 2: as promo. But the difference between you and that situation
Speaker 2: is if someone's your real friend. You didn't care like
Speaker 2: I produced Candy's wedding special and you showed up, showed out,
Speaker 2: You even taped the scene with Miss Lawrence without getting
Speaker 2: a check, because for you, it wasn't about making money.
Speaker 2: It was about disappointing my friend Candy. So that's that's
Speaker 2: disappointing to hear.
Speaker 4: Very disappointing. If anybody I thought would be there, I
Speaker 4: thought Kim would be there.
Speaker 2: I did, especially because a lot of people have seen
Speaker 2: how you have You've had Kim's back throughout the years
Speaker 2: so much so a lot of people have said, oh, Cherie,
Speaker 2: you're on the wrong side of the team because you
Speaker 2: ride for Kim, because you two are friends, and she
Speaker 2: rides for you too.
Speaker 1: What do you say to people who feel like the reasons.
Speaker 2: Why you came and you left you Kim and you
Speaker 2: left is because they felt like you were on the
Speaker 2: quote unquote wrong team, and that team would be that's.
Speaker 4: Even more disappointing that, you know, if I'm supporting I've
Speaker 4: always been supportive of the people that I really mess with.
Speaker 4: I've even supported those that I did not mess with.
Speaker 4: But for people to think that I was on the
Speaker 4: wrong team First of all, I'm team Charat. I have
Speaker 4: people that I mess with and that's the type of
Speaker 4: person that I am, though, because until I see that
Speaker 4: you've done me wrong or you've done things to me,
Speaker 4: I don't care what you do it to other people.
Speaker 4: It's how you treat me, and that's what I go by.
Speaker 4: So me being friends with Kim and writing for Kim,
Speaker 4: that was my loyalty.
Speaker 3: That's how I am.
Speaker 4: I'm a Capricorn, I am very I am loyal to
Speaker 4: the bone, you know. So it's kind of messed up
Speaker 4: because people really did get mad at me for really
Speaker 4: messing with him and you know, really having her back.
Speaker 4: But that's the kind of friend I would want for
Speaker 4: me as well. I would want them to do the
Speaker 4: same for me.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's the reason why you and I in
Speaker 2: real life our friends, because you are loyal.
Speaker 1: I'm like you. I'm loyal, you know me.
Speaker 2: I'm the type of person it's like, what's good? If
Speaker 2: you need me, I'm here. I don't ask for nothing,
Speaker 2: and I can I will go on record saying you
Speaker 2: operate in the same way. I had a birthday this year.
Speaker 2: Charay flew to where I live and surprised me at
Speaker 2: my birthday dinner. I had no idea she was showing up.
Speaker 2: I'm literally in the back, you know me.
Speaker 1: I'm cool.
Speaker 2: I got my spaghetti and my me balls and I'm
Speaker 2: chilling as Charay walked in to surprise me.
Speaker 1: And when I say to you, I gag like you
Speaker 1: flew here to see me. She's like, yeah, bitch boy.
Speaker 2: And that's who I want you all to know. Charay
Speaker 2: is she has the heart of gold. And what I
Speaker 2: always tell people is the nicest people on Housewives to me,
Speaker 2: have always been the ones y'all consider to be the villain.
Speaker 2: It's Kenya and Chary and we have tested this. Like
Speaker 2: Kenya's cool, ast shit like Kenya.
Speaker 3: I love Kenya. This season.
Speaker 4: We never got to get to this point because we
Speaker 4: were always battling over these houses. But I love Kenya.
Speaker 4: When Kenya's in a good space, she's fun. She I
Speaker 4: love her. I love her.
Speaker 2: Speaking of love, I know that you love Greg Leaks.
Speaker 2: May he rest in peace, and that no matter what
Speaker 2: you ladies have gone through the past, y'all do support
Speaker 2: each other. And I know that when he passed, obviously
Speaker 2: you myself a lot of people reached out to Meini
Speaker 2: to offer condolences. Have you seen her recently around Atlanta?
Speaker 2: Do you guys stay in touch? How is your relationship
Speaker 2: with her right now?
Speaker 4: We don't really have a relationship, but we have a
Speaker 4: mutual respect for each other. When Greg passed, I mean
Speaker 4: even before when he was sick, I think I reached
Speaker 4: out to her, and then when I heard the past,
Speaker 4: of course, I was devastated that I could not make
Speaker 4: it to his service. I had COVID for the second time,
Speaker 4: I had literally just contracted it, and so of course
Speaker 4: I couldn't go.
Speaker 3: But yeah, Greg was an amazing man.
Speaker 4: He was a really good man, and I knew them
Speaker 4: for a very long time. So I reached out to Nini,
Speaker 4: of course, and I offered my condolences and you know,
Speaker 4: anything I can do to help. But I have not
Speaker 4: seen her, but I see and hear that she's living
Speaker 4: her best life and I'm happy for her.
Speaker 1: Yes, no, she is, honey.
Speaker 2: One of the things a lot of people have been
Speaker 2: asking about is a show with just the ogs.
Speaker 3: Oh, I think that would be amazing.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you this.
Speaker 2: If you had to choose Lord between your current season
Speaker 2: fourteen cast and doing a show with the Ogs, which
Speaker 2: is you Niemi Kim, Deshaun Snow and Lisa Wu which
Speaker 2: cast was SHARII would feel like to be a part.
Speaker 3: Of Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4: I would say, there's no comparison to season one. You
Speaker 4: can't you can't even compare. You can't even that's not
Speaker 4: that's like apples and them watermelons or some shit. There's
Speaker 4: no comparison that season one cast. I mean, we came in,
Speaker 4: we gave everything, and we didn't care how we looked
Speaker 4: or how we you know, how things came across. We
Speaker 4: just knew to be authentic and real.
Speaker 2: Candy did an interview recently and said that this season
Speaker 2: is better and that Portia and Cynthia weren't part of
Speaker 2: this season and that no shade to them.
Speaker 1: This is her worst my mind.
Speaker 2: She said, no shade to them, that this season was
Speaker 2: much better than when they were on.
Speaker 1: Is that something you would agree with?
Speaker 4: When I wasn't on the show, I did not watch it,
Speaker 4: So I will say that this season is really good,
Speaker 4: especially coming off of what the dibacle of last year.
Speaker 3: The ratings were horrendous.
Speaker 4: But this, like I said earlier, this season is more
Speaker 4: like our sisterhood, like we're actually getting together outside.
Speaker 3: Of the show. We talk on the phone. Some of
Speaker 3: the girls, we text.
Speaker 4: We have group texts that we continue, you know, sometimes
Speaker 4: you have those group texts, but they stop as soon
Speaker 4: as the season ends. We're literally have a genuine like
Speaker 4: in trying to actually build something with some of these girls.
Speaker 1: That's good. And so what are your thoughts on the
Speaker 1: new girl, Sanya?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: I love Sanya. She's really sweet. She's really sweet. I
Speaker 3: like her a lot.
Speaker 1: Is she a good addition to this cast?
Speaker 4: I think she's a good audition. I think she brings,
Speaker 4: you know, sometimes a voice of reason. She started out
Speaker 4: kind of quiet, but she grew into her boys.
Speaker 2: Season nine was an epic season, but obviously that was
Speaker 2: the last season Face was on and there's been tons
Speaker 2: of talks about whether or not she should come back.
Speaker 1: Do you think Fadre should come back to the show?
Speaker 3: Absolutely?
Speaker 4: I actually brought her name up as well when they
Speaker 4: reached out to me in the beginning.
Speaker 5: And what they say, let me guess, I know, to.
Speaker 3: Be I think they are more interested.
Speaker 1: But you know, let me ask you this.
Speaker 2: I'm curious and it's funny. It just came to my head.
Speaker 2: Let's just say what it is because she went on
Speaker 2: record saying this. Candy said that she doesn't want Fadre
Speaker 2: on the show while while she's on because of what
Speaker 2: happened season nine, and that if Bravo wants Phadra on
Speaker 2: then that's fine.
Speaker 1: She about out gracefully. You've been on the show.
Speaker 2: With people you don't get along with, people where you
Speaker 2: guys go through shade and all this other stuff. Now, granted,
Speaker 2: what Faedra did allegedly is obviously word than anything you
Speaker 2: guys have experienced. But with that being said, do you
Speaker 2: think it's fair that one person may have that much
Speaker 2: control on someone coming back on the show?
Speaker 3: No? I don't.
Speaker 4: And I actually invited Fhaedra to the fashion show too,
Speaker 4: and one of the things she said, She's like, well.
Speaker 3: It's Candy going to be there.
Speaker 4: My thing is, like you said, I've been on this
Speaker 4: show many times, many years with people I did not
Speaker 4: get along with. I have been in situations that I
Speaker 4: was uncomfortable with. I have talked about heavy things that
Speaker 4: I have gone on.
Speaker 3: In my life.
Speaker 4: We are here to do a reality show, and as
Speaker 4: much as I love Candy, I feel like at the
Speaker 4: end of the day, they should or she should understand
Speaker 4: that this is for the show. We can't be Oh,
Speaker 4: I don't want to talk about that. It's not cool,
Speaker 4: so we can't do it. It's for the betterment of
Speaker 4: the show. We all have been and uncomfortable and talked
Speaker 4: about shit that we don't want to talk about. I
Speaker 4: think that conversation needs to be had on the shelf.
Speaker 2: I am still gagging, key kinging, and yeah with my
Speaker 2: damn self over that interview with Charae Whitfield. I hope
Speaker 2: you all got a chance to listen to how much
Speaker 2: we love each other. We are so close. I don't
Speaker 2: have too many people I call a friend in reality TV,
Speaker 2: but Charae is one hundred percent my friend. That's my girl,
Speaker 2: and I'm so happy that you guys got a chance
Speaker 2: to see a side of Charae where she is a
Speaker 2: fun girl who can spill some tea, throw some shade,
Speaker 2: but she's also very honest. The fact that oh girl
Speaker 2: just leaving Lenithia Monique Johnson Leak's name off the list.
Speaker 1: Child, I love it. I love it.
Speaker 2: But that's the Charay that I know and love, and
Speaker 2: I'm so happy that all of you got a chance
Speaker 2: to experience the CHARAE who I hold so dear to
Speaker 2: my heart, thoughts, opinions Read about my conversation with Chara.
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