Speaker 1: Boom. If you thought four hours a day, minutes a
Speaker 1: week was enough, think again. He's the last remnants of
Speaker 1: the old Republic, the sole fashion of fairness. He treats
Speaker 1: crackheads in the ghetto Cutter the same as the rich
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Speaker 1: break free for something special. The Fifth Hour with Ben
Speaker 1: Maller starts right now in the air everywhere. It is
Speaker 1: a Friday Friday Friday edition of The Fifth Hour with
Speaker 1: Ben Maller, because four hours a night are not enough
Speaker 1: in the overnight, eight days a week, eight days a
Speaker 1: week here from the Magic Podcast Studio, even on the
Speaker 1: extended holiday weekend. But I have learned from years past
Speaker 1: that there's actually more need for audio content on the
Speaker 1: holiday weekend because of Thanksgiving, people trying to get away
Speaker 1: from family, going on walks, going shopping, you know, the
Speaker 1: whole thing. So we are here. I debated whether to
Speaker 1: be here this weekend, but we were here, and we
Speaker 1: have the debut on Saturday's podcast of the new official
Speaker 1: rubber stamped UH sidekick for the Fifth Out That'll be
Speaker 1: on Saturday. But today it's all me. But it's not
Speaker 1: me because we get to talk to someone who I
Speaker 1: find interesting, someone who uh either I know in work
Speaker 1: or I want to talk to him. This this week,
Speaker 1: we talked to someone who I have known for several
Speaker 1: years now, who is part of our Fox Sports Radio
Speaker 1: Fami Lee. And you might not know, if you're not
Speaker 1: a big radio nerd, how much stuff goes on behind
Speaker 1: the scenes to get everything ready, prepped to go on
Speaker 1: the air and all that stuff. And this guy works
Speaker 1: his tail off. I call him the glue guy at
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. And his name is Alex ty Shirt
Speaker 1: and he joins I call him the vegan and Alex
Speaker 1: welcome of the Fifth Hour podcast. I do call you
Speaker 1: the glog guy. How would you describe your your job?
Speaker 1: You don't work on my show. You worked on the
Speaker 1: shows before me, But I talked to you every single
Speaker 1: night before the show. We do. Man, We have a
Speaker 1: fun ritual every time I dial you up for your
Speaker 1: show to take over the airwaves everywhere, I always tal
Speaker 1: you up and I stay down the line big bladder yes,
Speaker 1: and then I respond vegan here yeah, as an homage,
Speaker 1: as a tribute to your vegan lifestyle and one of
Speaker 1: the highlights Alex, as you know when the COVID thing
Speaker 1: became a big deal and they shut everything down and
Speaker 1: we didn't have sports, and so I was looking for
Speaker 1: content and we had you pop in for Ask the Vegan. Yes,
Speaker 1: one of the greatest segments in the history of Fox
Speaker 1: Sports Radio, and we we picked your brain and you're
Speaker 1: still It's gonna be a tough weekend here. I know.
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving has passed here, but as a v in the highlight,
Speaker 1: the star for many in Thanksgiving is the turkey. Yes,
Speaker 1: and you're not a turkey guy. No. Actually, the fun
Speaker 1: thing about that too, Ben, as I always was a
Speaker 1: turkey guy growing up. The gravy on top is probably
Speaker 1: the secret remedy to making it that much better. It's
Speaker 1: like in and Out. I don't know if you knew this, Ben,
Speaker 1: but I worked at in and Out for a little
Speaker 1: bit too. I did not realize, Yes, what was your job?
Speaker 1: Were you the fry guy in and out? So I
Speaker 1: made it to fry guy. The fun thing about in
Speaker 1: and Out is there's levels to it. Bend. Everybody starts
Speaker 1: at the bottom, which is like basically customer service, cleaning
Speaker 1: up tables, going around and cleaning up the area and
Speaker 1: establishment eventually work up to being a guy behind the cashier,
Speaker 1: and then you go up to being like the potato
Speaker 1: guy in the back, the fry guy, the board guy,
Speaker 1: the cook guy, and then eventually management. I made it
Speaker 1: to fry guy, Ben, So you were right. I was
Speaker 1: the guy dipping the frys. Well then and in and
Speaker 1: out Burger, which is great and wonderful and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: The synergy in the kitchen, yes, very impressive. You do
Speaker 1: not see that at all the fast food establishments. In
Speaker 1: and out Burger, there's a there's a really, it's a team.
Speaker 1: It's true. It's funny too, because Ben, out of all
Speaker 1: the jobs I've had, not only is that the one
Speaker 1: job I think that they take the employment factor to
Speaker 1: the extreme where they actually take care of everybody in
Speaker 1: a great way. They have like a fair once a
Speaker 1: year for their employees, Ben, did you know this? And
Speaker 1: they still we used to do that back in the
Speaker 1: old days. They stopped doing that a long time ago.
Speaker 1: You guys had chocolate fountains and statues. I remember all them.
Speaker 1: Oh give me Ted, when I got in I'm lucky
Speaker 1: that I got into Fox Sports Radio in the days
Speaker 1: when they still were just really it wasn't Fox, it
Speaker 1: was the Premier Network was just letting it ripped. Every
Speaker 1: year gala Christmas party in Beverly Hills, they flew everyone
Speaker 1: in from all over the country, all the big radio stars.
Speaker 1: And as a radio nerd Alex to be at the
Speaker 1: same party with Art Bell and dr Lor. These are
Speaker 1: heavy hitters in radio. A Matt Drudge I met one year.
Speaker 1: You did a syndicated show for for Premier. Jim Rome
Speaker 1: was the big star of the Premier networks. And all
Speaker 1: these big heavy hitters they'd bring in, and this guy
Speaker 1: Craig Kitchen, who was the president. He'd get up there
Speaker 1: everyone he'd wear a tuxedo and oh it's crazy. Holy moly.
Speaker 1: Now you're lucky if you get an extra bag of
Speaker 1: chips out of the vending I got breaking news for you, Ben.
Speaker 1: The vending machine is broke at the moment, Suit, I
Speaker 1: heard about that. Now, who who broke the vending machine?
Speaker 1: Somebody had I don't think the machine broke itself. You
Speaker 1: were there a lot. Did you notice any kind of
Speaker 1: illicit activity around the FSR vending machine? So, Ben, I
Speaker 1: have theories, and I believe that it might have been
Speaker 1: somebody that works with your team on the Overnight show. Bad.
Speaker 1: Is that right? Would you like to give the initials
Speaker 1: of who might be responsible there? It might be something
Speaker 1: that rhymes with oopa loop um. Interesting. So you believe
Speaker 1: there's a chance that somebody will call me as you said,
Speaker 1: the upper loop went on a rampage against the vending machine.
Speaker 1: Now they're is a camera that is positioned to focus
Speaker 1: on the vending machine. They don't they take security very
Speaker 1: seriously at our company, Alex right. They do not want
Speaker 1: anyone stealing a seventy five cent bag of M and m's,
Speaker 1: I think, except the dollar now it's actually a dollar now, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it might be more. They raised the president
Speaker 1: when they first put that thing in. They remember they
Speaker 1: bought it was like a nineteen eighties vending machine, and
Speaker 1: they had nineteen eighties prices for all those Yes, I
Speaker 1: still remember that. The best part two is it always
Speaker 1: sounds like it's a airplane about to take off. It
Speaker 1: would have heat this like cooling system initiation for the
Speaker 1: sodas at the bottom, and so we would have to
Speaker 1: actually close the studio door because we like to leave
Speaker 1: it open for air and stuff, but we'd actually have
Speaker 1: to close it because it sounded like it'd be taking
Speaker 1: off in about five minutes. It was hysterical. So I
Speaker 1: think what happened was they called somebody up and said, hey,
Speaker 1: we need a vending machine. And they said that. The
Speaker 1: company's like, well, we have these lean vending cheens, the
Speaker 1: top model. You can't even hear them at all, and
Speaker 1: they're really just wonderful. And then they put a price
Speaker 1: on that, and so then whoever the company is like, Okay,
Speaker 1: well what I don't really have that kind of money.
Speaker 1: It's not in the budget. So what do you have
Speaker 1: in our price range? And I said, well, we can
Speaker 1: go on the back. You know. It's like it's like
Speaker 1: when you go shopping at the TV and or a refrigerator,
Speaker 1: and I don't. I'm not riding any but I do
Speaker 1: the same thing. There's a big furniture store out in
Speaker 1: uh what's mathis Brothers in southern California. Great store, very expensive.
Speaker 1: So what I'll do is I'll go. I'll go there
Speaker 1: and I'll make the walk all the way to the
Speaker 1: back where they have the discount section. They're trying to
Speaker 1: get rid of stuff. And that's where I start. That's
Speaker 1: always where I start, Alex, because I said, let me
Speaker 1: see if I can get a deal here right right,
Speaker 1: and then I'll work my way back to the more
Speaker 1: expensive stuff. That's funny. My mom is the same as you.
Speaker 1: She is a I would say, low tier, top quality
Speaker 1: businesswoman in a sense of knowing where every deal value
Speaker 1: isle is in any store you go to. It's impressive, Ben, Yeah,
Speaker 1: well you learned that as you become more frugal over.
Speaker 1: I'm el Chipo, it's my nickname, not El chapo Chio. Okay,
Speaker 1: very very frugal. But yeah, years of radio, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't. I've never made the big, big money in radio,
Speaker 1: so I like to make the big money. I think
Speaker 1: I would still be thrifty. I wouldn't be on a
Speaker 1: shoe string budget or anything like. Sure, I would, you know,
Speaker 1: that's still shop on the dollar menu, but I would
Speaker 1: occasionally spurge a little more. Sure. It's like the encents. Uh.
Speaker 1: To me, it makes sense. There's a lot of people
Speaker 1: who have a lot of money, and how do they
Speaker 1: stay in money, Ben, It's because they don't spend a
Speaker 1: lot of money, or they try not to, so they
Speaker 1: consume the wealth, hold onto it, and then use it.
Speaker 1: Like you said, Uh, Rob Parker type who goes to
Speaker 1: the Eloil local right here, and they up the prices
Speaker 1: for a soft drink from seventy five to eighty cents,
Speaker 1: and he flips out for five cents but five backpack. So, yes,
Speaker 1: it makes so much sense. Yeah, we had well, we
Speaker 1: had Rob on the podcast and yeah, yeah he's we haven't.
Speaker 1: A couple of times he told a wonderful story about
Speaker 1: flying to the World Series in Atlanta's one of the
Speaker 1: great stories ever told. He bought a Spirit Airlines ticket,
Speaker 1: which is dirt cheap, and they charged for everything, like
Speaker 1: if you want to bring a bag, they charged it,
Speaker 1: so he didn't bring anything other than the smallest bag
Speaker 1: that was allowed as a carry on. He flies to Atlanta.
Speaker 1: He then goes out to buy a few clothes to
Speaker 1: wear for the weekend at a discount store, right one
Speaker 1: of those dress for last type things. So he buys
Speaker 1: a few things to where he goes covers the World Series,
Speaker 1: and on the way back, he's flying the discount airline
Speaker 1: and because you know it's some money grubbing low ball,
Speaker 1: you can't put any pat you know, any clothes. So
Speaker 1: all the clothes he bought he just left in the
Speaker 1: hotel room and put a sign and he put. He
Speaker 1: drew a little note saying, Hey, for the person cleaning
Speaker 1: the room, if you want these clothes you Yeah, that's awesome. Man.
Speaker 1: I can't get away with that. Man. I told my wife,
Speaker 1: let's travel like Rob Parker. She said, no, I like
Speaker 1: to bring my clothes with me when I travel. Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh. You know what's funny is he takes the
Speaker 1: extreme of how a lot of people, especially the ladies
Speaker 1: out there overpack where they need five out fits per day.
Speaker 1: He told himself, I'm taking nothing and leaving with nothing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he just went out bought a couple of pairs underwear,
Speaker 1: bought a couple of shirts, or you know, one or two.
Speaker 1: I don't think he was there that long and right,
Speaker 1: I can tell you the way inflation is going right now, man,
Speaker 1: this is the way of the future here, the Rob
Speaker 1: Parker model is the way of the future. With these
Speaker 1: prices swelling, uh, this infestation of inflation. I think he's
Speaker 1: using his talents wrongly. Ben. I think he needs to
Speaker 1: go out there and be like one of those Jim
Speaker 1: buddies so everybody has like a personal trainer. Rob needs
Speaker 1: to be a personal spender for you and show you
Speaker 1: how to get through with everything and to curve the
Speaker 1: curving of the inflation. Now, as far as the story
Speaker 1: you told about him going into the boiled loco and
Speaker 1: the thing goes up five cents, he says, what that.
Speaker 1: I was the same way when I back when I
Speaker 1: was a batchler, and I would go around and I
Speaker 1: did not have the healthiest diet Alex. I did, yes
Speaker 1: hard to believe when I was way way obese, that
Speaker 1: I ated a lot of bad stuff. So I don't
Speaker 1: need that great anymore. I just don't eat much. Be
Speaker 1: sure to catch live editions of the Ben Maller Show
Speaker 1: weekdays at two am Eastern eleven p m. Pacific on
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. We'll
Speaker 1: get to that in a minute. But so I'm I.
Speaker 1: I go to the Windy's. I loved Windy's the chicken
Speaker 1: sandwich and Windy's tombo with the chicken nuggets on the
Speaker 1: side with the fries wonderful. So I'd go there, and
Speaker 1: I knew exactly and this is back in the days.
Speaker 1: I paid cash, so I brought just enough to cover
Speaker 1: the I knew exactly how much it was exactly right,
Speaker 1: And I've eaten there on the regular once or twice
Speaker 1: a week, so I knew exactly what the price was
Speaker 1: from my meal. I didn't change the order. I'm a creature,
Speaker 1: a habit. I got the same thing, and I'd go
Speaker 1: in there and drive through, and I did all the
Speaker 1: the calculation. I'd already done that, and then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, they're like, uh, the prices blah blah blah
Speaker 1: blah blah, and uh, and I said, well, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: that's not the price. I know exactly what the prices.
Speaker 1: And when we raised our prices or the taxes would
Speaker 1: go off. They'd raised the taxes, being in California taxation
Speaker 1: without representation, and how that worth last time? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: So I'd get upset and this is this happened like
Speaker 1: multiple times. I'd have the math and then it would
Speaker 1: be all of a sudden, it would be algebra, you know, calculus,
Speaker 1: or so it was because they they screwed it up.
Speaker 1: And every once a while I wouldn't even have enough money.
Speaker 1: I'd only bring the right amount of money to buy
Speaker 1: the said food items. Holy moly, yeah, he's likely. You
Speaker 1: know what's funny is like that's the one thing that
Speaker 1: happened in and out too. When I was there, we
Speaker 1: would progressively sometimes have to increase annual prices to consistently
Speaker 1: bring the service to provide for the customers that they wanted.
Speaker 1: And it's funny, as you said, it's just because taxes
Speaker 1: went up on stuff, so their meat plans had to
Speaker 1: pay a little bit more. The potato place, the bun place,
Speaker 1: which people don't know this bend in and out. They
Speaker 1: got all of their stuff by themselves, so they actually
Speaker 1: had their own bakery that they sponsored, their own butcher shop,
Speaker 1: their own potato farm. They did it all themselves. I
Speaker 1: thought it was really cool. Now, when I lived in
Speaker 1: the San Gabriel Valley, which I did for a while,
Speaker 1: there was an in and out University. Did you ever
Speaker 1: have to go to in and out universe? So so
Speaker 1: basically that's the spot you go to once you hit
Speaker 1: level seven, which is basically that this like there's was
Speaker 1: that Tom Cruise, Yes, Scientology at the level seven they
Speaker 1: unlocked the special Scientology. That's so funny to be Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: Basically you start as a level one, climb up your
Speaker 1: way to level seven. Then after seven that's when like
Speaker 1: the big honchos and the black suits and the black
Speaker 1: sunglasses come to your house and night They're like, listen,
Speaker 1: we would like to bring you into management. Would you
Speaker 1: like to join? So that's where you go to that academy,
Speaker 1: Ben when you want to do management stuff. That's wild.
Speaker 1: I have no I love in and out. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying this ripping it out. But when I went to
Speaker 1: the gym back before the the despot leader of California,
Speaker 1: Strett down all the gyms, and uh, I used to
Speaker 1: go to a twenty four hour gym. It was great.
Speaker 1: I'd go after the show hang out with my old friends.
Speaker 1: That show, I had a group of friends. I'm not
Speaker 1: very social when I go out. I'm I'm an introvert.
Speaker 1: I don't talk to many people. You're more of an extrovert.
Speaker 1: But so I will, I will. I go to the gym,
Speaker 1: and I knew a few people, and they usually because
Speaker 1: they talked to me, not because I talked to them,
Speaker 1: and so they became friends. And usually older people go
Speaker 1: to the gym early in the morning. When I was there,
Speaker 1: and so there was a guy in there and he
Speaker 1: he had worked at In and Out Burger for like
Speaker 1: thirty years or something, I mean his whole life. He
Speaker 1: was you know, he started as a kid in high
Speaker 1: school and worked you know, all the way through and
Speaker 1: they got rid of him, and he was swore. He
Speaker 1: was so upset. He claimed that because he was making
Speaker 1: too much money that they got rid of. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: had risen up the ranks of the restaurant. He was
Speaker 1: convinced because he got to a point where salary was
Speaker 1: so high. You can make a fair amount of money, though,
Speaker 1: and once you rise up, it's more money than some
Speaker 1: of us making radio. And I've heard whispers. And I
Speaker 1: talked to the store manager at Store forty eight, where
Speaker 1: I worked in Norco back in college days. She was
Speaker 1: telling me that if you get up to management level
Speaker 1: and get one of those red aprons, the ones that
Speaker 1: are the store managers, you're making about six digits just
Speaker 1: to manage in and out. Wow, it's insane, my guy,
Speaker 1: it's a fairies. I think that's more stressful than what
Speaker 1: we do. Is people say that, oh, you gotta do
Speaker 1: a radio show, and you gotta you know, you gotta
Speaker 1: be there exactly this time and finished talking at this time,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, I've done it a long time.
Speaker 1: But I go to these restaurants. You mentioned how crazy.
Speaker 1: It is in the back they're making the fries and
Speaker 1: the burgers and all that stuff. But it's it's a
Speaker 1: NonStop you're on if you do the rush, the rush
Speaker 1: hour and in and out. It could be not just lunch,
Speaker 1: it it's overnight people going for a late night snack,
Speaker 1: and it's it's intense in there. For sure. You can't
Speaker 1: f up and you're messing with food. You mess up
Speaker 1: a burger tisher, holy moment happen. And that's the thing too.
Speaker 1: They have that model where the whole customers right things.
Speaker 1: So if somebody eats half a burger and brings it
Speaker 1: up and says, yo, I didn't like it, let me
Speaker 1: make you a new one. What you want different on it?
Speaker 1: They always do that. And as you said, the high
Speaker 1: velocity lifestyle they had been if it was a downtime,
Speaker 1: so let's just say between dinner, late night rush, or
Speaker 1: maybe between lunch and dinner. If it's slow bend for
Speaker 1: at least a consistent thirty minutes to almost an hour,
Speaker 1: they'll send people home because there's nothing to do. That's
Speaker 1: how high strung the environment is is that they want
Speaker 1: you always go, go going, and if there's nothing to
Speaker 1: go on and everything is spotlessly clean. They just start
Speaker 1: letting people go home early what we call them back though,
Speaker 1: because people that show up and that's where they suffer.
Speaker 1: It's all about trying to get the right management with
Speaker 1: the money spending for the employment. So basically you have
Speaker 1: to time and guess it off of the You're kind
Speaker 1: of guessing, is the best way to say. You're trying
Speaker 1: to think. Okay, it's a Tuesday night, it's already eight pm.
Speaker 1: We've hit a lot of already the dinner rush. How
Speaker 1: many people are gonna come through at night? Can I
Speaker 1: get through with these crew members? I know these guys
Speaker 1: can do multiple things, and it's like basically a giant
Speaker 1: Jenga pun puzzle. They're trying to figure out which way
Speaker 1: to go with employment to benefit themselves. During the rushes,
Speaker 1: it was wild dude, wild environment. Yeah all right, well
Speaker 1: that's uh, that's interesting. You want another fun story about
Speaker 1: a job I had before Fox Ben, Well, of course
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear about Fox. About other o
Speaker 1: the Grand Vegan Adventures, Yes, the Life of the Vegan.
Speaker 1: So this is way before I ever learned about life nutrition.
Speaker 1: This is back, I'd say in my big bend days
Speaker 1: before any of that big Yeah, oh for sure, for sure.
Speaker 1: So this was a job I had that I would
Speaker 1: consider bookworthy, if not movie worthy. So this was called
Speaker 1: a caretaker position, and it wasn't of older people. It
Speaker 1: was actually in a state. So the way I found
Speaker 1: this job, and before I get into you with you'll
Speaker 1: set it up perfectly. At the time, I was dating
Speaker 1: my X and she was working at an animal hospital
Speaker 1: and so one of her co workers was a dog trainer,
Speaker 1: had her own company, and she met a couple. It
Speaker 1: was a gay couple, a guy named Bruce and Rob,
Speaker 1: and so they were looking for somebody to be a
Speaker 1: caretaker of their estate. And they're very wealthy guys. They
Speaker 1: have like a ballroom gown collection. A big company was
Speaker 1: called Masquerade. They would make all the stuff in J. C. Penny's,
Speaker 1: you name it, from ballrooms to they even did like
Speaker 1: prom stuff, even special wedding dress orders. Had a couple
Speaker 1: of factories over in China. It was insane that they're
Speaker 1: big polarization of their company. So they had an estate
Speaker 1: in Norco by me Ben, which is like Horsetown, USA.
Speaker 1: I think you've heard of it, Ryan, Yes, I've actually
Speaker 1: driven through norc Yes, it's three exits. It's a far
Speaker 1: far away out in the outskirts. Yes, you're not far
Speaker 1: from Riverside, no nor code. It's more it's closer to
Speaker 1: which is out in the well I consider the boondocks.
Speaker 1: But now I live kind of in the buddocks where
Speaker 1: I am now same and I'm about an hour from work.
Speaker 1: So that's exactly where I live as the Cron area
Speaker 1: right by Norco and so in Norco Ben they had
Speaker 1: an estate. It was a four acre property, three houses
Speaker 1: on the property and they were looking for somebody to
Speaker 1: be the caretaker, which was a six day a week
Speaker 1: job early morning till late at night, so about six
Speaker 1: to six. And your job was not only to take
Speaker 1: care of the estate, to do the maintenance work, to
Speaker 1: take care of the horses they had. They had two
Speaker 1: horses on the estate. They had a bunch of animals.
Speaker 1: They had goats, lamas, ostriches, chickens, you name it. They
Speaker 1: had an insane it was like their own petting zoo
Speaker 1: basically at their estate. And so the job they wanted
Speaker 1: was not only to do all that, take care of
Speaker 1: all the other stuff. Micro managed the other employers that
Speaker 1: would come the cleaning people, the pool people, you name it.
Speaker 1: And when they're gone, you're basically like the homeowner. You
Speaker 1: take care of everything while they're away, either for business
Speaker 1: or pleasure. And so I went for this interview Ben.
Speaker 1: Keep in mind them only twenty years old at the time, right.
Speaker 1: My ex just kind of tossed the idea of my
Speaker 1: way and staid, they're looking for somebody they like references.
Speaker 1: Why not go look at it because this was when
Speaker 1: my ex and I were living at my mom's house
Speaker 1: at the time, and love my mom and everything, but
Speaker 1: at that time, I was like, you know what, I
Speaker 1: think it's probably best with me in my ex find
Speaker 1: our own place. So I went and checked the place out,
Speaker 1: Ben in real, unreal place. It was insane how massive
Speaker 1: the houses were, the whole estate. And I'm sitting there
Speaker 1: kind of rubbing my head like can I handle all this?
Speaker 1: You know, like this is this is pretty incredible from
Speaker 1: going from like a part time job I was working
Speaker 1: at America's Tires to that. So I was like, huh,
Speaker 1: sat down with them, talk to him. They loved my
Speaker 1: personality and everything. They're like, we hit it off, and
Speaker 1: they said, okay, we like you. But the youngest person
Speaker 1: we've ever hired for this job is thirty years old.
Speaker 1: They said. The youngest person we've ever hired his thirties. Like,
Speaker 1: you're about to be twenty one in a few months.
Speaker 1: He's like, do you really think you can handle this?
Speaker 1: And so I kind of sat there and looked at
Speaker 1: him and I was like, you know what, I think
Speaker 1: I'm the man for this job. Went for I went
Speaker 1: for it. And you know what? Did you have to
Speaker 1: feed a llama? Oh? Everything you fed, every animal you
Speaker 1: took care of. Give me, give me a list. Now,
Speaker 1: what kind of alama is not a normal pet? What
Speaker 1: about an ostrich man? They had ostriches too, aren't ostriches?
Speaker 1: I've heard stories that they're very angry, that they kick
Speaker 1: you and they get up, And I've also heard that
Speaker 1: that which I repeat all the time, bury the head
Speaker 1: in like in the sand, like an Ostrich. Yes, so
Speaker 1: they never didn't do that. No, yeah, I heard that's
Speaker 1: just urban legend. I think so too. They never did that.
Speaker 1: But I will say Bobby, the guy Ostrich, he had
Speaker 1: a mad crush on me. He was always trying to
Speaker 1: sleep with me. Really, yes, he's trying to use flirtatious
Speaker 1: you have ever seen a mating dance that the ostriches do? Uh?
Speaker 1: I don't. I have only spent a little time around ostranges.
Speaker 1: So there is a place in where is that north
Speaker 1: of l A? There's an ostrich farm. You can go
Speaker 1: and check out the ostriges, but not spent a lot
Speaker 1: of time. Where is that? There's that little town north
Speaker 1: of l A. You know what I'm talking about things?
Speaker 1: So yeah, solving ever been a solving on the way
Speaker 1: to solving in the town next to solving in north
Speaker 1: of l A? There's an ostrich farm? But so the
Speaker 1: ostriche What is an ostrich If the ostrich is feeling
Speaker 1: feeling horny, feeling you and wants to spend some quality
Speaker 1: time yes with you, and the ostrich love with you?
Speaker 1: How awkward would that be? And and how does that go?
Speaker 1: What's the move their head over heels and love? You know,
Speaker 1: it's funny, Ben, I think that's where they said bearing
Speaker 1: the head and the other kind of sand, if you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So what it would do, Ben,
Speaker 1: which was hysterical. It would drop on the floor. It
Speaker 1: would spread its wings out almost like a peacock does
Speaker 1: with the I don't know if people know this, but
Speaker 1: the male peacocks actually have the feathers, not the female,
Speaker 1: And what they do is they bring them out and
Speaker 1: they show off all of the feathers and they do
Speaker 1: a dance. So what the ostrich does is it basically
Speaker 1: drops it to the floor, puckers its head up like
Speaker 1: almost like an arc, and then it flutters its feathers
Speaker 1: and kind of slaps his neck around on his wings
Speaker 1: to kind of like get you intrigued or maybe like
Speaker 1: drop endorphins. That's like the candlelight dinner, yes, exactly. And
Speaker 1: it's literally showing off all its stops and it will
Speaker 1: keep going if you're in front of it, but as
Speaker 1: soon as it starts to glance you walking away, it stops,
Speaker 1: umps up and runs after you, like, bro, what up?
Speaker 1: You didn't like my dance? This is the the osteges.
Speaker 1: Hubbahubb hubba. Come on, it's basically the peppy Lippi kind
Speaker 1: of thing, right, it's and don't they have big eyes?
Speaker 1: Osteges have right, So not forget puppy dog guys. He's
Speaker 1: a giant ostrogi huge man like make a fist and
Speaker 1: that's how big these eyes are on these It was
Speaker 1: an insane job. Insane I would have. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of smells. I guess you must not not be worried
Speaker 1: about the smells. I just spent some time. I went
Speaker 1: to a private zoo years ago. Relative had some some
Speaker 1: dough they had. There was a private zoolie. It wasn't
Speaker 1: like an individual owned it, but it was like prival.
Speaker 1: You hadn't know somebody to get in. But the smells
Speaker 1: being around the back side of the animals was rather repulsive,
Speaker 1: i'd say been. The worst part was the chicken coop. Oh,
Speaker 1: my lord, I don't know what chickens is in that
Speaker 1: chicken feed. It looks like just seeds to me. But
Speaker 1: whatever that comes out of him, holy Molly, all the
Speaker 1: good smell must go in the eggs in because it
Speaker 1: was disgusting, my guy. I don't know why. It was
Speaker 1: just the chickens. Everything else is all right. You get
Speaker 1: used to it now. Is that what led you to
Speaker 1: become a vegan? I never thought of it that way,
Speaker 1: but I think that might have been a small part. Yeah. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: you didn't read a book. There's some book that I've
Speaker 1: heard that if people read that book, it's so powerful,
Speaker 1: so sinister will turn you to the vegan lifestyle really.
Speaker 1: In fact, there was a guy, a baseball player, Prince Fielder,
Speaker 1: who I think it was. I think it was he
Speaker 1: read that book. Maybe he watched a movie, but there
Speaker 1: was something. I thought it was the book and there's
Speaker 1: some book that you read and he's, oh, I can't,
Speaker 1: Oh you know what. It might be a Netflix special
Speaker 1: and called like cows anchor something. Have you heard of
Speaker 1: that one? It's like basically where they show you the
Speaker 1: whole process of the dairy industry and the butchering industry
Speaker 1: for cows and beef. Oh yeah, I maybe that. I
Speaker 1: don't know what it was, but it was something. And
Speaker 1: I remember there was a documentary I saw called Big Chicken.
Speaker 1: I think was Did you see that one? The documentary? Yeah,
Speaker 1: And that was about how how corrupt the chicken industry
Speaker 1: is in American all this, I wouldn't doubt it, man,
Speaker 1: I just know for a fact when chicken farmers get
Speaker 1: screwed and all that. Yeah, I was gonna say, I
Speaker 1: remember from watching the stuff I've seen, and it wasn't
Speaker 1: even what it led me to. My ultimate change in
Speaker 1: my lifestyle was more health reasons than just overall well being,
Speaker 1: but I've seen some of those things, Ben, and it's like, Man,
Speaker 1: if majority of people say that, I think when you
Speaker 1: look at that chicken nuggets on the side of your
Speaker 1: chicken sandwich, Ben, you might be like, I don't know
Speaker 1: if this price increases worth the pain now? Yeah, well no,
Speaker 1: like with the whole big Chicken thing. I we did
Speaker 1: a whole podcast last year really yeah yeah last year,
Speaker 1: right around the time the COVID stuff started. Because this
Speaker 1: this documentary was amazing. I Morgan Spurlock, the documentary maker,
Speaker 1: made it, and it was just like they went over
Speaker 1: like the twenty billion chickens around the globe that it
Speaker 1: was amazing numbers there, Like it was insane. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: doubt it that they go through people through forty three
Speaker 1: pounds of chicken per second. You're a kidding man. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: there's there's three point seven million pounds per day that
Speaker 1: are consumed. The volume in big Chicken. It's uh. And
Speaker 1: they fatten them up with all kinds of oh yeah
Speaker 1: things to make the hormone all that other stuff. They
Speaker 1: get some nice and juicy and plump for you. They say,
Speaker 1: a if a human I remember I remember this from
Speaker 1: the documents to have a human grew at the rate
Speaker 1: of a modern day broiler chicken, a two month old
Speaker 1: baby would weigh six d sixty pounds. So these things, yeah,
Speaker 1: like these things within six weeks, they can be massive.
Speaker 1: Like they've mastered the art through science. They've figured out
Speaker 1: how to get them tremendously fat plump. For I'm sure
Speaker 1: I do the same thing with turkey, right, And I'm
Speaker 1: not doing this to that I eat chicken all the time.
Speaker 1: You're the vegan. I'm not. And I take in the
Speaker 1: position here in my life that I don't want to
Speaker 1: know where my food comes from. And and that's not
Speaker 1: that's not only for like meat, that's for other stuff.
Speaker 1: If I knew where my my mayonnaise or my catchup
Speaker 1: came from and what was involved in that, I probably
Speaker 1: wouldn't eat that either. It's ignorance is bliss. You're not wrong.
Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Maller
Speaker 1: Show week days at two am eastercific. I think that's
Speaker 1: for myself, Ben. When I started having these random little
Speaker 1: health problems, like, for example, swollen glands because I have
Speaker 1: like abnormal size glands in under my mouth area. So
Speaker 1: they just produced a lot of a sliva. I kept
Speaker 1: like looking in for reasons. I was like, okay, so
Speaker 1: why is this happening When to doctors, specialists, you name it,
Speaker 1: everybody's conducting tests. One guy even took like a chip
Speaker 1: out of my lip bend to like test to see
Speaker 1: if my antibodies were attacking my cells and my glands
Speaker 1: and that's why they were inflamed and all of these
Speaker 1: things under the sun. And nobody had an answer. So
Speaker 1: I finally like took it under myself and I was like,
Speaker 1: you know what, maybe I should just go back to
Speaker 1: the source of like what am I ingesting? What am
Speaker 1: I putting in my body? And I kid you, not
Speaker 1: the biggest thing for myself, And it might help somebody
Speaker 1: out there that's listening if you ever suffered with like
Speaker 1: saliva or any type of acne or a lot of
Speaker 1: producing of mucus was dairy. Dairy was the biggest thing
Speaker 1: for myself. So you got rid of the milk and
Speaker 1: the yam and all that stuff, and you're the body
Speaker 1: just couldn't break it. Yeah, I couldn't break it down.
Speaker 1: It was just dust turning into mucus, and it wasn't
Speaker 1: able to digest it, and so cutting that out entirely,
Speaker 1: your body is like, hey, bro, thank you for letting
Speaker 1: us turn the car off for a little bit. And
Speaker 1: ever since then, Ben, you can't really just go back
Speaker 1: when you find open waters. Right well, speaking of diet Alex,
Speaker 1: I gotta say, you know, I got several messages from
Speaker 1: members of the Mallard militia here that we're busting my
Speaker 1: balls because the Times of London did a story this week.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw this, and at the
Speaker 1: Times of London did a story debunking the Interminute fasting diet. Interesting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they pretty much claimed it there's no there's no advantage,
Speaker 1: that it doesn't work any better or worse than uh
Speaker 1: any other diet, the five two diets, and it said
Speaker 1: they said it's no more likely to serve up success
Speaker 1: than any other diet. Really, I say it's bullshit. Okay,
Speaker 1: I say that's bullshit now. I and they claimed also
Speaker 1: that we're part of a cult if you're in this
Speaker 1: this diet. And I have tried every diet on the
Speaker 1: planet as a recovering morbidly obese individual. At my fattest
Speaker 1: I was close to five pounds. I went forward in
Speaker 1: life and I tried every diet and this is the one. Now.
Speaker 1: I lost a lot of weight without doing interiminute fasting,
Speaker 1: and then I gained it back once I stopped doing
Speaker 1: what I was doing. And so but this has been
Speaker 1: able to I've been able to maintain my weight and
Speaker 1: lost more weight with interiminute fasting. So I am a
Speaker 1: big believer in it. And I I know all these
Speaker 1: guys love busting my balls, but you also live a
Speaker 1: similar life, right, you just follow that model. You don't
Speaker 1: eat that much. You eat once a day or something
Speaker 1: like that, once to twice a day. And I would
Speaker 1: say that science or whatever the vacuing wants to support
Speaker 1: that is complete bullshit. Ben. It's to me that sounds
Speaker 1: like people were trying to have a biased perspective of
Speaker 1: what they wanted to accomplish with that narrative behind it.
Speaker 1: And to me, I'm a proud supporter of intermitted fastening because,
Speaker 1: like you said, myself, everything I tried when I was
Speaker 1: getting into the workout lifestyle of eating more chicken and rice,
Speaker 1: upping your carbo hydrate intake, trying to make yourself eat
Speaker 1: four to five meals a day, all this bull crap
Speaker 1: and you basically try to realize. Okay, so what is
Speaker 1: the premise of nutrition and what does my body need?
Speaker 1: And less is more so for myself. I know you
Speaker 1: probably said it as well. I only eat one to
Speaker 1: two meals a day and that's within a six hour
Speaker 1: window and then the rest of the time I don't
Speaker 1: touch food, not at all. Just water. Team that's it.
Speaker 1: And I can tell you from my own personal experience,
Speaker 1: not only does it help me maintain my weight that
Speaker 1: I'm at, but it allows me within those six hours
Speaker 1: if I want to splurge, I can, because then you
Speaker 1: have nothing else to overcome what you're already doing consistently.
Speaker 1: And your body has the ability to break down the
Speaker 1: foods properly to digest the actual nutrient value within it.
Speaker 1: And also it's like a car. Once you turn off
Speaker 1: the engine for about twelve hours. The next four hours
Speaker 1: it can actually clean your body. I don't know if
Speaker 1: people know this, Ben, this might be a conspiracy theory here,
Speaker 1: but your body has the ability to heal itself and
Speaker 1: clean itself out of diseases, bacteria and all of that
Speaker 1: if you give it a chance to might be a
Speaker 1: theory there for you. Ben, look at that I like,
Speaker 1: you know, I I occasion during the week, I usually
Speaker 1: once a day and I'll skip. I try to skip
Speaker 1: to two days where I'll go like forty five forty
Speaker 1: eight hours without eating and try to get to fasting it.
Speaker 1: That's the the science of that claims it's you're you're
Speaker 1: burning the most, You're you're losing what. There's that that
Speaker 1: sweet spot once you fast for I think it's thirteen hours.
Speaker 1: After that your body kind of goes into the mode
Speaker 1: where it starts burning fast. I believe it because it
Speaker 1: I've seen the results. So I believe. And I think
Speaker 1: that the issue with people trying to debunk the like
Speaker 1: the Times of London, my theory is it's because with
Speaker 1: any any life, this is more about like a lifestyle thing,
Speaker 1: but anything you change, if you're cheating on it, going
Speaker 1: in the fridge and eating three day old meat both
Speaker 1: or that take out box of General Sal's chicken, you're
Speaker 1: you're not being true to the lifestyle. I mean, you've
Speaker 1: got to be pretty regimented. And if you go off that,
Speaker 1: and where all people are fallible and make mistakes, right,
Speaker 1: humans are prone to error, and so the diet's not
Speaker 1: gonna work for you. If you do a fasting diet
Speaker 1: and you're snacking and you're not following the diet and
Speaker 1: it's not gonna it doesn't work. Yeah, because it's simple math.
Speaker 1: It's calories in, cali's out whatever. For sure. It's like
Speaker 1: the whole narrative people say, like if a tree falls
Speaker 1: in the woods bend, does it make a sound if
Speaker 1: no one's there to hear it. It's the same thing.
Speaker 1: If you're in the kitchen by yourself eating Oreo cookies,
Speaker 1: you're putting the calories on. I don't care if nobody's
Speaker 1: there to see it. Or Alex, if you do a
Speaker 1: radio show overnight and no one's awake, does anyone hear it?
Speaker 1: That's the question. Well at times, but I think at size,
Speaker 1: But no, Like you really bring on a good point.
Speaker 1: And I tell people this all the time, especially if
Speaker 1: anybody is interested in health. Because of how I've changed
Speaker 1: not only the things that were damaging my body, but
Speaker 1: how I turned out to live. You don't need to
Speaker 1: go extreme and go all plant based or anything like that.
Speaker 1: It's just like moderations on things to overall help yourself
Speaker 1: and your outlook on life. So as you said, if
Speaker 1: you do simplicities of just making sure you eat within
Speaker 1: a certain window, whether it be eight hours or six hours.
Speaker 1: Treat it like a job in a sense. So you know,
Speaker 1: from let's say twelve pm to a p m. This
Speaker 1: is the time I can eat food. And if you
Speaker 1: follow that consistently for at least two months, you will
Speaker 1: see your body not only change with its energy levels,
Speaker 1: the digestion rate, the nutrients you get, your overall physique.
Speaker 1: It's insane how much a simple thing of just when
Speaker 1: you eat can change everything. I think that's why Ben
Speaker 1: you know this too. There's a reason why the first
Speaker 1: wee meal we eat is called breakfast, because you're breaking
Speaker 1: a fast and fasting is very important. Is why they
Speaker 1: talk about in the Bible and throughout all of time
Speaker 1: fasting has been a big staple well. But also the
Speaker 1: modern breakfast is a creation the fools people need. Is
Speaker 1: a creation of a big business. So you've got that also,
Speaker 1: and it's one of my favorite We've talked about this
Speaker 1: on the podcast before, but the slogan which has repeated
Speaker 1: breakfast is the most important meal of the day. It
Speaker 1: was a catchphrase that the guy that sold Kellogg's cereal
Speaker 1: back in the day, Hey, we got to sell more cereal.
Speaker 1: And so this is a marketing slogan. It was in genius,
Speaker 1: it is it has become part of the zeitgeist of
Speaker 1: the society. Passed you better eat breakfast is the most
Speaker 1: important meal. Yeah, that's hysterical to me because a long
Speaker 1: time people didn't eat break No, my mom's side, Ben,
Speaker 1: I know if I told you this. My whole family
Speaker 1: is from outside of the country. So my mom, I'm
Speaker 1: the first born on both sides. My mom is from
Speaker 1: Macedonia and my dad is from Germany, and so in
Speaker 1: Macedonia culture, they don't even really eat breakfast. They're big
Speaker 1: thing is dinner. They have a nice dinner when everybody
Speaker 1: gets home, and that's pretty much in light me along
Speaker 1: the way out. Kind of maybe a little bit of
Speaker 1: a lunch, but it's mostly like they combined lunch and
Speaker 1: dinner and have one big meal at the end of
Speaker 1: the day. Yeah. Well, so here's I guess we're sounding
Speaker 1: like we're in a cult here, Jonestown. What's your favorite
Speaker 1: called Heaven's Gate Branch? Davidians Maybe you're a Manson guy.
Speaker 1: I don't know that, but but no, I really by
Speaker 1: buy it and I see these stories, well this this
Speaker 1: is not true. Well you can say it's not true,
Speaker 1: but for me it's true. Maybe for other people it's
Speaker 1: not true. But and for you it's worked out pretty well.
Speaker 1: I think it's more so as you said, it's like
Speaker 1: what are you trying to get out of it and
Speaker 1: anything in life? Are you true to it or not?
Speaker 1: That's what will make there you go. I completely agree.
Speaker 1: I want to get back to the your role though,
Speaker 1: I call you the glue guy at Fox Sports Radio,
Speaker 1: and you work I'm trying to get your schedual. I
Speaker 1: know you work on the Jason Smith Show and the
Speaker 1: Rob Parker Chris Broussard shows. Are those two main main shows?
Speaker 1: Is that? Yeah, I've been everywhere around this network, man,
Speaker 1: but as of right now, that is the consistent where
Speaker 1: I'll do the three to seven, which is excuse me,
Speaker 1: four to seven, which is the odd couple with Christopher sorry,
Speaker 1: Rob Parker, and then I'll do the seven to eleven
Speaker 1: and this is all Pacific time with Jason Smith and
Speaker 1: Mike Harmon and then occasionally filling on the TV side
Speaker 1: for Colin Cowherd when they need a good looking face
Speaker 1: once in a while. So yeah, So we need to
Speaker 1: get to that because as the glue guy, you know,
Speaker 1: you're in the inner circle. Alex. When you get the
Speaker 1: call from the O G. Colin Cowherd's people and they say,
Speaker 1: we're going to the bullpen. We're tapping the arm here.
Speaker 1: We need to bring in out of the bullpen, Alex
Speaker 1: to come in here and help out. Is that for
Speaker 1: those that don't know, Alex. Uh, we do the show
Speaker 1: from one studio, the Fox Sports Radio. The most of
Speaker 1: the shows come out of one studio, but Colin does
Speaker 1: it's a TV show that happens to be on the radio,
Speaker 1: and so he does his show from the Fox lot.
Speaker 1: We used to have, uh, our studios, we used to
Speaker 1: have all the shows would occasionally work out of the
Speaker 1: Fox lot. I did in the early days of Fox
Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Is there all the time? It's a different
Speaker 1: world though, right, I mean night and day. It's described
Speaker 1: the difference between working the regular Fox Sports Radio shows
Speaker 1: and then the Holy Grave and Power. You know what's
Speaker 1: funny is like to this? To me? When I come
Speaker 1: into the studios for radio, it's so laid back. Everybody's
Speaker 1: in sweat sweatpants. There's only a few people here, especially
Speaker 1: the COVID days and all you have to do is
Speaker 1: just scan your card at the front. Let's see in
Speaker 1: the gate you park your car, scan your car key
Speaker 1: to get in. Uh right into the building here and
Speaker 1: just set up for the show, get to sit down,
Speaker 1: a couple of little studios. It's all available and open.
Speaker 1: The Fox slob Bend is a world of its own.
Speaker 1: I kid you not. When you're driving up to this place,
Speaker 1: not only does it have billboards upon billboards on the outside,
Speaker 1: these massive gates that looks like it's the Great Wall
Speaker 1: of China and I'm about have to scale this to
Speaker 1: get to the other side. As soon as you drive in,
Speaker 1: there is a horde of security people everywhere the gates.
Speaker 1: They have to say can I see some I d
Speaker 1: Can I get your name? Who are you here for?
Speaker 1: What show? It's insane. I feel like I'm really about
Speaker 1: to go into the X Files or go over to
Speaker 1: Area fifty one and find out the deepest dark secrets
Speaker 1: of the world. Dude, just a phone for a TV show? Right,
Speaker 1: So you finally go in, they have this massive parking
Speaker 1: structure that's insane. How deep it goes I don't even
Speaker 1: know how deep it goes. Maybe to the end of
Speaker 1: the earth. So I'll park on the first level. Usually
Speaker 1: I sleep in my car for a couple of hours
Speaker 1: because I live so far away, so I'm trying to
Speaker 1: be traffic so I'll wake up. You walk out, it's
Speaker 1: a massive open area. They have their own restaurant, they
Speaker 1: have their own gym. I mean, you name it, Ben,
Speaker 1: They have like a whole area where if the world
Speaker 1: was to end, people say, Costco, I'm going to the
Speaker 1: Fox slot. There's everything I need there, and there's so
Speaker 1: many massive gates. Good luck even breaking the facility. It's insane, dude,
Speaker 1: Like they literally have so much stuff in this area.
Speaker 1: And keep in mind, Bend, not only did I go
Speaker 1: through the first security, once you walk through the lavish area,
Speaker 1: You've got a whole another round of security guys to
Speaker 1: go through now to get into the actual TV part.
Speaker 1: So I was like, hold up, what, I just had
Speaker 1: to go through that to park, but now I got
Speaker 1: to go through this to get inside. It's insane, dude,
Speaker 1: It is nuts. It's his own eCos film. I'm very
Speaker 1: fortunate because I'm I'm old, I guess. But and when
Speaker 1: we we had the access, when I had access to
Speaker 1: the Fox lot. I was there on September eleven, the kid. Yes,
Speaker 1: I was working at the Fox lot that day and
Speaker 1: before nine eleven, Holy crap was it was well, he
Speaker 1: didn't walk in. You had to have a pass, but
Speaker 1: there was like one security guard at the front, and
Speaker 1: it was just a gate, one of those armbar things
Speaker 1: that would go down whatever. But I had the run
Speaker 1: of the place, and I this was the I have
Speaker 1: such great memories of running around those the back lot
Speaker 1: there where you have all the like the New York
Speaker 1: sky Line and they have the little uh, you know,
Speaker 1: the little villa little how would you describe it. They
Speaker 1: filmed a bunch of TV shows and movies. It's a
Speaker 1: movie a lot. And back in those days, they didn't
Speaker 1: really care, you know you. I just walked around and
Speaker 1: I'd have friends come into town from out of town.
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, let's I'll take into the Fox lot.
Speaker 1: You can walk around the New York Skyline. And it
Speaker 1: was awesome. It was great, you know. We it was
Speaker 1: like you were in the movies, you know, wandering around
Speaker 1: and you got to see what was behind that stuff.
Speaker 1: And and then nine eleven happened, and I remember coming
Speaker 1: back after a few days after nine eleven, and it
Speaker 1: was like a demilitarized zone immediately. I mean it just
Speaker 1: within a couple of days. They had you had to
Speaker 1: zeke Zac because they're worried about car bombers. And on
Speaker 1: September eleven you mentioned that big parking garage. They came
Speaker 1: in they told us we all now I had being
Speaker 1: on the West coast. We started after the attacks had happened,
Speaker 1: but we didn't realize the at that time. We didn't
Speaker 1: know the impact. I started the morning and before it
Speaker 1: really came to like what exactly was going on here?
Speaker 1: And so they had us all get out. Anybody that
Speaker 1: was parked in the garage. We had to move our
Speaker 1: car out of the garage to somewhere else because they
Speaker 1: were worried about some kind of attack. They didn't know
Speaker 1: if they were going to attack the movie studio or
Speaker 1: anything like that, and so we had to we had
Speaker 1: to move our cars. It was was surreal. But I
Speaker 1: have great memories of that place though, because before the
Speaker 1: big security days, in a different world, just wandering. Have
Speaker 1: you had a chance have you been able to wander
Speaker 1: around that offits Well? I used to be able to,
Speaker 1: but now with like the COVID thing. It's like up
Speaker 1: another level from dmilitarized base and now an actually military
Speaker 1: base with testing facilities and everything everywhere. So before this happened, yes,
Speaker 1: I have wandered around and looked at it, and it's
Speaker 1: it's almost like if we I was to go back
Speaker 1: to them, if I started a TikTok account back then,
Speaker 1: I could have been somebody by just doing different skits
Speaker 1: from the locations they had available. Oh, it's great. You
Speaker 1: can be anywhere in the world just wandering around the
Speaker 1: movie lot there. It's awesome. And that lot is in
Speaker 1: a very congested part of Los Angeles in West l
Speaker 1: A where the real estate is pretty pricey. There. It's
Speaker 1: not far from Beverly Hills and Century Cities right there,
Speaker 1: and that's some very expensive real estate. It's very booge. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm surprised they've kept it there. I'm surprised they haven't
Speaker 1: gone out to the boondocks and built new studios because
Speaker 1: real estate is very pricey. You think you think they
Speaker 1: have like a returning membership discounts, so they've been there
Speaker 1: for so long they kind of keep the original price. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know how that works, but everyone's trying to
Speaker 1: cut back on money. These days, you can save a
Speaker 1: lot of money and sell that to some real estate
Speaker 1: broker and you can build houses there. But part of
Speaker 1: the charm. One of the things about living in l A,
Speaker 1: though it is part of the charm, is you're never
Speaker 1: that far away from a movie study, right right, You're
Speaker 1: not that far away, And that's part of the the razmatazz.
Speaker 1: That's so funny to me l A. The you're not
Speaker 1: into the making the movies, and I'm not. I used
Speaker 1: to be more into it than I am, you know,
Speaker 1: Like for myself, Ben, I've never been one of those
Speaker 1: guys that was really into entertainment factor with movies and
Speaker 1: anything um as you know, I'm a big anime guy
Speaker 1: and everything. But to me, it's like the glitz and
Speaker 1: glamour of the l A lifestyle. And I think it's
Speaker 1: more so like the Vegas the lights and sounds, and
Speaker 1: you get so caught up into it. But once you
Speaker 1: get there, you're like, Okay, it's gonna take me an
Speaker 1: hour to go two blocks away. There's people everywhere, the
Speaker 1: prices are outlandish. It's almost like once you really get
Speaker 1: the gist of it, and the honeymoon phase fade. Since
Speaker 1: I live so close by, it's like, you know what,
Speaker 1: I think I'll avoid it on the weekends just so
Speaker 1: I can actually enjoy my time in position where I'm
Speaker 1: at personally at least. No, no, I I I hear you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you end up taking friends when they come in
Speaker 1: from out of that. Let's do the Hollywood Walk of
Speaker 1: Fame and look at all the homeless people besting for
Speaker 1: money and fitting and pissing on the streets. Have you
Speaker 1: been to Venice lately? Holy crap, my guy. And it
Speaker 1: was bad before. I can only imagine now. Then when
Speaker 1: COVID hit and they shut down like the places for
Speaker 1: people that are homeless to stay at, it was a
Speaker 1: It looked like a tsunami blew through Venice Beach and
Speaker 1: all of the junk was left over there. These people
Speaker 1: are hordes of them. Then it blew my mind when
Speaker 1: I went to see it. Holy crop, and I used
Speaker 1: to when I lived in l a proper. I love.
Speaker 1: Venice Beach is one of the great spots that you
Speaker 1: can watch. It's like you're at the zoo. You're watching
Speaker 1: other people. Yeah, exactly, it's a free ticket and it's
Speaker 1: just the vibe I loved it. I I heard somebody
Speaker 1: told me. Buddy of mine who lives down there, told
Speaker 1: me that I don't know if this is still the case.
Speaker 1: That they turned some of the parking garages where they
Speaker 1: just allowed they have a lot of parking there, they
Speaker 1: allowed the homeless to like sleep there. They've made it
Speaker 1: into like not a homeless shelter, because it's not a shelter,
Speaker 1: but it's the people have been putting tents in there
Speaker 1: and stuff, and they were camping out inside the parking garage.
Speaker 1: It's like a shanty town. Man. Hey, if they have
Speaker 1: somewhere safe and it can't be against that. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: l A in general, like downtown Los Angeles, it is
Speaker 1: my goodness. I think they finally started to clean that
Speaker 1: up a little bit. The political class finally realized that
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people paying good amounts of money
Speaker 1: in property taxes. You might they don't think they want
Speaker 1: to live in a third world environment. You might want
Speaker 1: to help take care of this, and it's it's a
Speaker 1: it's a problem obviously because of the weather in California's
Speaker 1: there's more homeless people now. Also because of everything going
Speaker 1: on with the economy and all that stuff. And I'm
Speaker 1: with people that don't want to work. There's also people
Speaker 1: just want to live out of double bag. Dude, Ben,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know this per se where
Speaker 1: your area is, but where I'm at I'm close to
Speaker 1: Ontario where it's all the warehouses, Like there's a huge
Speaker 1: Amazon facility. Any big company you can think of, they
Speaker 1: have their warehouses. When I drive down to say my
Speaker 1: friend's house to record our podcasts and stuff, or just
Speaker 1: to go out and about, I've never seen in my
Speaker 1: life these many for for higher signs, wanted signs. It's insane, Bro,
Speaker 1: I have never seen it this bad, to where if I,
Speaker 1: like God forbid, something happened, I'd have a job in
Speaker 1: a day, Ben, I could go to seventeen places in
Speaker 1: under five minutes from my house. It's insane to me.
Speaker 1: And I gotta tell you. People think, oh, you're working radio,
Speaker 1: You're never gonna do it. No. I I feel comfortable
Speaker 1: at any moment, as you know, being in radio, Alex,
Speaker 1: I could say something that will get me fired. Right,
Speaker 1: this is a loaded weapon. I'm talking into a megaphone
Speaker 1: and if the person here that is offended by it
Speaker 1: and raises hell, I'm out I'm gone, and so I'll
Speaker 1: be like, well, I'll get a regular job. I'm not
Speaker 1: against that. I've always said I'll work at Costco or
Speaker 1: something like that. Maybe I'll get a job in and
Speaker 1: out like you used to work. But I'm willing to work.
Speaker 1: I'm a worker. I like to work, and I feel
Speaker 1: a little it's wrong. I don't know if it's wrong
Speaker 1: to say this or not. But when I see all
Speaker 1: these employment, hey I'll work. That means like, hey, I
Speaker 1: can get a job if I have to, like, if
Speaker 1: I need, I got bills to pay, and if I
Speaker 1: can't work where I'm working now, I can go work wherever,
Speaker 1: and and so that's the way to go. I see
Speaker 1: a lot of Amazon. I Amazon. I don't know they
Speaker 1: pay very well, but they I get in on that
Speaker 1: to do the stock, to get the Amazon stock. Well.
Speaker 1: They also have Amazon airports now that they're building for
Speaker 1: shipping like ups and usps and stuff. They're making their
Speaker 1: own mailing facilities and stuff for also shipping their products
Speaker 1: around the world. So they're buying up airplanes and making
Speaker 1: up their own airports. It's insane. Amazon's taking over the world. Yeah,
Speaker 1: now are you anti Amazon? Here? They have the there's
Speaker 1: some people very upset with him. I'm not upset with Amazon.
Speaker 1: I'm not. They're at they deliver a service. People like
Speaker 1: the service they're they're apparently good at it because people
Speaker 1: continue to pay for the service. Side, I'm fine with it.
Speaker 1: And now there are there should be some kind of
Speaker 1: guardrails because you can't. You don't want to have the
Speaker 1: mega mega Mega MEGAMEGA where they overtake everything, and there's
Speaker 1: a there's a sweet spot where you're okay. And sure,
Speaker 1: I think when when everything's Amazon, it becomes a but
Speaker 1: I'm generally speaking, I'm fine. You know. What's what's funny
Speaker 1: for myself is, as you said, I've never really been
Speaker 1: an anti anything guy because I don't believe in telling
Speaker 1: anybody how to live their life. Just giving people options.
Speaker 1: I think that's the best way so people can learn.
Speaker 1: I can tell you not to jump off that bridge, Ben,
Speaker 1: but until you somehow try to, you won't know why
Speaker 1: I'm telling you not to. It's just the way the
Speaker 1: world goes well. Yes, And also, like laws don't stop
Speaker 1: people belief that if you put more laws in for anything,
Speaker 1: people always bring up the gun thing, which blows my mind.
Speaker 1: But just in general, but just in general, like you know,
Speaker 1: people that follow the law aren't going to break the law.
Speaker 1: Rape and murder have been illegal for as long as
Speaker 1: I can remember, but people still rape and people still murder,
Speaker 1: So it doesn't I guess it makes people feel better.
Speaker 1: The laws makes people feel bad. Well, no, you're actually right,
Speaker 1: you brought that up. I'll do this quick side tangent
Speaker 1: for you. I read this study that was conducted on
Speaker 1: elementary kids in different locations for recess playtime. So the
Speaker 1: two different areas they had was one was an open
Speaker 1: field it was more like I think Central America somewhere
Speaker 1: where there was just a lot of forest station and
Speaker 1: an open range area for them to play at a
Speaker 1: playtime where they went some more of like industrial kind
Speaker 1: of like uh, suburb kind of areas where they actually
Speaker 1: had gated play areas for the kids. So they conducted
Speaker 1: the research to see what the kids did during the
Speaker 1: playtime and how comfortable they felt. And they've noticed that
Speaker 1: in the areas where all the kids have the freedom
Speaker 1: to go as far as they want to go, as
Speaker 1: run a down, play whatever they wanted to do, they
Speaker 1: all stayed extremely close to the teachers because they felt
Speaker 1: there was too much out there as comparison to the
Speaker 1: suburb ones where they had the gated off areas, that
Speaker 1: kids would go to the ends of the gates everywhere
Speaker 1: they could because they felt comfortable in a boxed off area,
Speaker 1: so they felt they were safer knowing their limitations, other
Speaker 1: than the kids who had the freedom to go as
Speaker 1: far as they want. Funny how you mentioned that with
Speaker 1: laws right, how it makes people feel safer. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: think it's funny because, as you mentioned, like the whole
Speaker 1: gun thing and everything too, It's like it seems like
Speaker 1: such a simple concept for me. Guns aren't killing people,
Speaker 1: it's people are killing people. So the availability Ben, say,
Speaker 1: you and me right now, we had a heated debate
Speaker 1: talking about Tom Brady and he's the greatest of all time,
Speaker 1: and you didn't think so if there's a gun between us, Ben,
Speaker 1: no one in our right mind should everything to use
Speaker 1: a gun to dispute an argument, no matter how emotionally
Speaker 1: to range either of us. Get right, Yeah, No, I
Speaker 1: that's a third round back too, Amazon, my man, that
Speaker 1: I think that for sure. For sure, I have no
Speaker 1: issue with monopoly situations. It's just that when it gets
Speaker 1: to such an extreme where people are reliance on it
Speaker 1: and then just don't go down the streets to their
Speaker 1: family owned businesses or stuff. You can get it available
Speaker 1: and build connections with people like build friendships. I know
Speaker 1: you can agree with this, Bend Radio. It's all about
Speaker 1: who you know, especially in any concept of life. I
Speaker 1: can name you tend people off the top of my head,
Speaker 1: Bend that work at fast food, joins the gym's, I
Speaker 1: go to, the grocery stores I go to, and I've
Speaker 1: built such good friendships with them. They are more sore,
Speaker 1: prioritized and not only take care of you too, but
Speaker 1: to help you. And it feels like a family environment.
Speaker 1: I love that. And I feel like Amazon can hurt
Speaker 1: that a little bit, just a little bit. Yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: the secret to life is it's not what you know.
Speaker 1: It is who you know. That's it. And it's very frustrating,
Speaker 1: and I always point out that. I try to point
Speaker 1: out to people, like I've worked with people in radio.
Speaker 1: They've been complete assholes to everybody, and I'm like, what
Speaker 1: are you doing here? I mean, the as the old
Speaker 1: saying goes, right, the same people you're gonna see on
Speaker 1: the way up are the same people you're gonna see
Speaker 1: on the way down, and they're not gonna treat you
Speaker 1: very well on the way down if you were an
Speaker 1: asshole on the way up. So just you know, try
Speaker 1: to try to be okay. And I and I'm being
Speaker 1: in radio for a long time now, Uh, it was
Speaker 1: on my list. I hope this would happen. And I've
Speaker 1: been in long enough. Were people that were interns and
Speaker 1: producers when I was getting in are now program directors
Speaker 1: and now running radio stations. And so these are these
Speaker 1: are people that if I needed a job, I could
Speaker 1: cry off and they know me and they don't hate
Speaker 1: me for whatever reason. So it's it's amazing how fast
Speaker 1: life goes in general. You don't realize it when you're
Speaker 1: in your you know, very young starting out, but bam,
Speaker 1: in the blink of an eye, you're like, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: now I'm like middle age or something like that. And
Speaker 1: uh and now like whoa, Holy Moses, I can't believe
Speaker 1: it's I can attest to that. Ben. I'm thirty one now,
Speaker 1: and so when I was in high school up to
Speaker 1: like graduated almost i'd say the beginning of college years,
Speaker 1: life felt extremely slow. I can't take you back to
Speaker 1: an hour an hour of algebra two class, and it
Speaker 1: felt like an eternity, Ben compared prison. And now a
Speaker 1: whole month will fly by doing radio and stuff here,
Speaker 1: and I look back, I'm like, holy crap, it's already
Speaker 1: going to be December. That's insane to me. How when
Speaker 1: you get in the flux of your daily rotation, especially
Speaker 1: when you do something you love per se, time just
Speaker 1: keeps flowing without you noticing. It's so cool to me. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: it's they've been studies on that. I think it's something
Speaker 1: to do with when you're a kid. Your perception of
Speaker 1: time is different because you haven't been alive that long,
Speaker 1: and the long longer you've been alive, the quicker things go.
Speaker 1: But I do believe in the keep your head down method,
Speaker 1: on one foot in front of the other and being
Speaker 1: in radio and working day in and day out, and
Speaker 1: just kind of time. You're like this weird time bubble.
Speaker 1: I agree with you. Situation now now it's I was
Speaker 1: gonna say real quick about how as you said taking
Speaker 1: care of people to Ben is because the one day
Speaker 1: they could be your boss. I think if everybody lived
Speaker 1: with the notion of just pushing it forward and just
Speaker 1: being a good person, bro, who knows where it will
Speaker 1: take you, especially with the friends and family you build.
Speaker 1: I think it's great. Yeah, yeah, we don't need all
Speaker 1: these the woke, this, the wold. It's not that hard.
Speaker 1: You don't need all these praise, you know, all these
Speaker 1: other bull crap that people come up with. To just
Speaker 1: treat other people nice. That's it. You don't have to
Speaker 1: be a dick, you know, and you don't have to
Speaker 1: you know, you don't need special treatment because of this
Speaker 1: man the other just people nicely, that's it. But I
Speaker 1: disagree with you, Ben, It's fine to just be like
Speaker 1: you know what. I can agree to disagree, but I
Speaker 1: still love you for a person. It's very simple to me.
Speaker 1: That's what I always I listened, like with Looney, who
Speaker 1: doesn't work in our place anymore, that Tom Moody. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but like with him that he's a you know, I
Speaker 1: call him a limousine liberal and I'm more on the conservative,
Speaker 1: more on the conservative side. But we would we would debate,
Speaker 1: you know, side by side. And but I love Looney
Speaker 1: my good friends. I've known him for many many years.
Speaker 1: But you know, he's he's around my age or whatever,
Speaker 1: and we can debate and we just like, you know,
Speaker 1: he thinks I'm an idiot. I think he's an idiot,
Speaker 1: and we're fine. And uh, but it's just politics. Who cares,
Speaker 1: you know, It's what I'm saying, big deal. It shouldn't
Speaker 1: drive families apart, like, for example, with the Trush exsume
Speaker 1: me the trump erra when we actually had him as president.
Speaker 1: You don't have any families broke up over that. Ben,
Speaker 1: That's insane to me. Like the fact people always say
Speaker 1: politics religion and I don't know, whatever it was, you
Speaker 1: can't talk about it, or people get hot. Why what's
Speaker 1: wrong we thinking differently? Ben? Tell me yeah, no and yeah,
Speaker 1: like you've got cooties or something. You think a weird way.
Speaker 1: It's like, come on, it cracks me up and knock
Speaker 1: it off. And then then you only your thoughts are right. Sure,
Speaker 1: nobody else can be right. Only only uh, you know
Speaker 1: your your correct. Now I have to mention before we
Speaker 1: put the baby to bed. Here, you are an anime
Speaker 1: star in a way right now. I don't know much
Speaker 1: about Animal I'm not gonna lie to you. I don't
Speaker 1: know much about it. I've seen it a few times.
Speaker 1: But you live in this world which is a foreign
Speaker 1: world to me. Yes, it, and you have you we've
Speaker 1: talked because I talked to you five nights a week
Speaker 1: or four nights. We don't get Sunday night Sunday to money,
Speaker 1: but I talked you most of the week, and you
Speaker 1: have told me little nuggets about this anime. You've got
Speaker 1: a podcast that you do. You you go to anime convention.
Speaker 1: Like there's a whole different world that I don't know
Speaker 1: much about, So explain it to me, Like I'm five
Speaker 1: years old. The world that you're in here for sure.
Speaker 1: So basically, remember Ben, when we were growing up and
Speaker 1: we watch cartoons like w B or you had Looney
Speaker 1: Tunes or whatever it was. Yeah, the same concept. It's
Speaker 1: basically like, these are animations made from an Eastern culture.
Speaker 1: That's why they called anime. And the whole realm about
Speaker 1: it that I'm in trance wit and I love is
Speaker 1: the fact that you can create a story from nothing.
Speaker 1: Give me characters that have such a vast range of
Speaker 1: not only developing themselves but overcoming these obstacles to show
Speaker 1: you referencing to relatability with your own life. But the
Speaker 1: word world development is so monstrous within these realms. It
Speaker 1: is basically like the modern day video gaming aspect of
Speaker 1: how intransit it can be and involving with kids who
Speaker 1: get into it. So myself, I grew up watching all
Speaker 1: of it because when I was growing up here in
Speaker 1: the States, we have things like Yugo, Pokemon, and these
Speaker 1: were like the first origins of anime that was introduced
Speaker 1: to us because we're so used to animation, which is
Speaker 1: and it sounds crazy, but I know anime and animation.
Speaker 1: Animation is Western where anime is Eastern, but it's off
Speaker 1: the same basic development style, just different type of artworks
Speaker 1: and producers. So we grew up with like Disney Channel
Speaker 1: and all that other stuff, where the other side had
Speaker 1: their own development, whereich is more deep with Naruto and
Speaker 1: Dragon Ball Z and those shows blew up so much
Speaker 1: within the recent five years. I'm so excited for it
Speaker 1: because I think a lot of people have overlooked them
Speaker 1: because they think it's kitty or they think it's something
Speaker 1: more for children, when it necessarily I've met so many
Speaker 1: adults in my life, for people that are even older
Speaker 1: than me, been that have been into anime way longer
Speaker 1: than me, that are some of the best people you'll
Speaker 1: ever meet and the community itself is in transit because
Speaker 1: these people think so open mindedly because of the type
Speaker 1: of environments these shows give you, whereas more modern day
Speaker 1: TV is more reality TV, which I could argue, I
Speaker 1: think there's a little bit more harm than good. So
Speaker 1: I kind of developed myself into this lifestyle. And since
Speaker 1: I've been given a platform working with great people like
Speaker 1: yourself and being able to entrance myself with the world
Speaker 1: in the culture, I wanted to envelop it and bring
Speaker 1: it more of attention to other people who are outside
Speaker 1: of it, or give people a home in somewhere they
Speaker 1: can be entertained and learn more informational base if they're
Speaker 1: involved within it. So, as you said, the beginning of
Speaker 1: this year, I went to Texas. I flew all the
Speaker 1: way out there because we got invited to a convention
Speaker 1: to host a panel for this environment, to bring people's
Speaker 1: attention to that. There's podcasting, there's YouTube, there's entertainers and
Speaker 1: people who are building a platform for themselves to be
Speaker 1: that spokesperson, just like we have with the sports realm
Speaker 1: with yourself, where we have with Ryan Seacrest with music
Speaker 1: or Steve Harvey with entertainment. There's a whole another realm
Speaker 1: that people don't even realize. Ben, And I'll say it
Speaker 1: here first with your show. Within the next five years, Ben,
Speaker 1: anime is going to skyrocket here. It is gonna be
Speaker 1: insane how big it blows up, and you're the gonna
Speaker 1: be the Ryan Secret. So someday I will be able
Speaker 1: to brag Alex you had you on this podcast because
Speaker 1: you know I'm not listen. You give become such a
Speaker 1: big deal in that world that we won't be able
Speaker 1: to book you. Oh you know it's it's not gonna happen.
Speaker 1: You'll you'll blow up and you'll be gone from Fox
Speaker 1: Sports Radio and I'll be able to say that get
Speaker 1: used to work at Fox Sports Radio. Ben. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you right now on this show. You have my phone number.
Speaker 1: I will always make time for you that number. You
Speaker 1: get famous, then I can't promise anything that. Yeah, I've
Speaker 1: bet friends that have been blown up and then they're like,
Speaker 1: I can't get ahold of you. Your number change? What happened?
Speaker 1: I don't understand. No, I promise you, Ben, I definitely do.
Speaker 1: And I think like this is why it's a great time,
Speaker 1: and I thank you for asking me about it. I
Speaker 1: think people, it's like, until you give something a try
Speaker 1: or see something from a different perspective, that's why racism exists.
Speaker 1: That's why poverty, what's why separation exists, because people just
Speaker 1: don't give something another opportunity to And I fondly will
Speaker 1: tell you here, Ben, anime is a great realm. That's
Speaker 1: why I love it. Yeah, well that's that's great. And
Speaker 1: you you want to promote your podcast? How can people
Speaker 1: if they're interested in want to for sure? Yeah, your podcast?
Speaker 1: How can they thank you for that? So we have uh,
Speaker 1: we do it on any platform. You can search for it.
Speaker 1: I Heart Radio, Spotify, iTunes, you name it. It's just
Speaker 1: three simple words. It's weeb w e B not weed.
Speaker 1: I know. Rob Parker's like weird Nation. I don't you
Speaker 1: gotta smoke the weed? Well, California based, I know's what
Speaker 1: they do. It's we w e B we'b nation podcast.
Speaker 1: And it was something that me and my buddy started
Speaker 1: together in this exact studio. I'm sitting doing this with
Speaker 1: you now, Ben, that's just a fun thing we wanted
Speaker 1: to do. I told him, like, I have studios available,
Speaker 1: this is before COVID. Why don't we just come up
Speaker 1: in here, chop it up, have some fun talk anime.
Speaker 1: And now within just a little over a year, Ben,
Speaker 1: we've had a hundred thousand plays. We have fans from
Speaker 1: all over the world, and it's it's been sensational. Man,
Speaker 1: I I couldn't be more placed. Listen. I'm happy for
Speaker 1: you and that you can brag that you started that podcast.
Speaker 1: You were recording that right across the hall from me
Speaker 1: doing the show. I remember'd be in there after your shift.
Speaker 1: You'd be across the hall. And that's the old Casey
Speaker 1: Caysum studio radio legs Jasey Casum. He recorded his Top
Speaker 1: forty Countdown show right across from where which is now
Speaker 1: our podcast. The room you're in, Yeah, the great Casey Caysum.
Speaker 1: In fact, in that hallway is where I almost killed
Speaker 1: Casey Cason. I eventually died, but I almost killed him. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So it's one of my my favorite FSR stories. So
Speaker 1: back in the day, I was filling in with Chris Myers.
Speaker 1: He was doing a midday show and I was pretty
Speaker 1: big guy. And during the day, Casey Cason would be
Speaker 1: in there, the radio legend Hall of Famer recording his
Speaker 1: Top forty count and this guy was a voiceover actor
Speaker 1: in Scooby Dooby do right he was I think he
Speaker 1: was shaggy right anyway, Uh So I I ran to
Speaker 1: the bathroom as much as I could run, and I
Speaker 1: finished taking care of business, and I hear that there
Speaker 1: For some reason, I timed it wrong and they were
Speaker 1: coming back from the commercial, and so I had to
Speaker 1: get back in the studio because Christie I was doing
Speaker 1: the show with Chris, and so I started trying to
Speaker 1: run as much as I could, and I ran and
Speaker 1: I ran down the hall. I make the right turn.
Speaker 1: Then I go to make the left, and and just
Speaker 1: at the time I go to make the the you
Speaker 1: know it was it was the left and then the right,
Speaker 1: the left and then the right. So I made the
Speaker 1: left and then the right. And Casey Cayson, a very
Speaker 1: small man, very petite man at this point, very old man,
Speaker 1: very frail man, gets he's he happens to be standing
Speaker 1: there where and I I'm running. He he looks at
Speaker 1: me like, oh my god, there's an oncoming train like
Speaker 1: and I'm heading right towards him. And if I had
Speaker 1: run him over, I would have probably gone to jail
Speaker 1: and would have been on TMZ for killing a radio legend.
Speaker 1: But I used the swim technique, a football technique, and
Speaker 1: I was able to just barely. I put my arm up,
Speaker 1: kind of move my body as much as I could,
Speaker 1: and I just got around Casey Cayson. I did not
Speaker 1: make the contact, and so I I lived to talk
Speaker 1: another day talking to it. But he worked right there.
Speaker 1: It's awesome that that that's our podcast hub. I had
Speaker 1: no idea and then where you started. Yeah, the anime podcast.
Speaker 1: It's so cool to think about. I think, like the
Speaker 1: best star studded story I have is just running into
Speaker 1: Steve Harvey in the halls here or it's just he
Speaker 1: has like his his fifty different people with him, because
Speaker 1: it's all the radio people, his producers, his talent agency,
Speaker 1: and they're all fully suited. At like three m and
Speaker 1: I walked by and they're like, what's up baby. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm just chilling man doing radio. What's you up to
Speaker 1: so much? Yeah? I I ran in Steve Harvey in
Speaker 1: the parking lot one time. He pointed out how nice
Speaker 1: the mall and will be. Was he yes, he said,
Speaker 1: that's a good color car. He was talking to one
Speaker 1: of his security guys. Oh yeah, Steve was great, but
Speaker 1: he was one of my favorite celebrities and he happened
Speaker 1: to be Yeah, he doesn't do the show out of
Speaker 1: there anymore. I don't know COVID days. Yeah. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: would be in there a couple of times a week
Speaker 1: and he was nice. He's wearing like a jumpsuit, you know, relax,
Speaker 1: chill guy. And besides him, I would say Snoop Dogg.
Speaker 1: When I was at the box lot, he was leaving
Speaker 1: the First Things First or whatever the show was before Colin,
Speaker 1: and so he was leaving. I was walking and he
Speaker 1: was like, what up, neph feels like just chilling out.
Speaker 1: How you doing? I'm his nephew. I'm chilling Ben. Here
Speaker 1: you go all right? I think we've we've gone. We
Speaker 1: exceeded the limits here of time space and all that.
Speaker 1: But you promoted the podcast anything else You're on Twitter,
Speaker 1: people want to say, yeah, definitely, Ben on Twitter, I
Speaker 1: believe it's just Alex underscore TI shirt my name, and
Speaker 1: especially like Instagram and all that stuff too, it's just
Speaker 1: a l e X underscore T. I c h e
Speaker 1: r T. And also, Ben, if you are somebody who
Speaker 1: needs some motivation or some help or just something to
Speaker 1: get you through the days or to change your perspective.
Speaker 1: I also do a life podcast which is called Shallow
Speaker 1: Oceans Podcast. So I'm a man of many talents. Ben
Speaker 1: look at that, and you don't really have the sports gene,
Speaker 1: but you work at I love. I love that You're
Speaker 1: not a heard oh sports guy, not at all. I
Speaker 1: always tell my friends, like when they asked me about
Speaker 1: the sports rum entertain I always saw, man, I'm just
Speaker 1: the most talented guy you never heard of. That's what
Speaker 1: I do. I tell people when they say, hey, what
Speaker 1: do you think about sports, and said, I don't that's
Speaker 1: that's work, good talk, good man, I just use excuse
Speaker 1: I don't watch Well that's good too. Well some of
Speaker 1: the hosts could also say that that which is which
Speaker 1: is a slight problem. But anyway, all right, well, thank
Speaker 1: you Alex, you're the man, and appreciate it. And to
Speaker 1: tell a friend, five stars on the podcast, five stars
Speaker 1: on the podcast, and don't forget on the Saturday podcast.
Speaker 1: We will be debuting the new sidekick on the fifth
Speaker 1: hour podcast. So state to who is it going to be? Well,
Speaker 1: we let the cat out of the bag early, but
Speaker 1: you'll find out on Saturday. Until then, have a great
Speaker 1: rest of your holiday weekend, See you later.